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EPISODE: Episode 5
How good is Anthony Joshua? Graeme and Kristian discuss Joshua’s pro career and what the future may bring?Watch live on TalkinFight.com or YouTube.com/c/TalkinFight
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[, Music ], hello, boxing fans around the world.
Thank you for joining me once again and joining me shortly on air will be christian von sponik from boxing 247.
My regular guest at this time slot uh noon in north america, well, east coast, north america, and live at five over in the uk and uh.
We were going to discuss and we’ll be discussing anthony joshua, specifically how good of a boxer is he, but before we do and seeing christian is having a bit of technical difficulty which said uh, he will take a few minutes to get on here.
Let me just introduce anthony joshua from the fans who are outside of the uk, who may not be entirely familiar with him.
You might recall uh.
He fought in the 2012 olympics and won the gold uh from there.
He went on to win numerous victories until being defeated recently, uh by alexander, in a great heavyweight clash.
Up until that point, i was quite happy to support anthony joshua’s career as a boxer and thought he was doing well given his size given his reach, but he was beaten uh by usyk and and and this is now as we were seeing online quite uh – quite A debatable point as to uh how he happened to lose uh why he lost, etc.
I’M glad uh christian is more well-versed than anthony joshua than i am.
But let me just tell you something about auntie joshua, but there is no sound at the moment.
So uh bear with me technical problem.
Well uh.
I can hear you just fine and if i can hear you, the fans can hear you, but let me continue just prior to getting signed to eddie hearn’s company matchroom in 2013, just prior to that in 2011.
He did have some trouble and was uh released from reading prison for what he describes as fighting and other crazy stuff.
Uh.
Sorry that was in 2009 2011.
He was then um caught uh with not one not two but eight ounces of weed um.
So the question might be asked uh with respect to anthony joshua.
Maybe he’s lost a little bit of that passion that aggression he had because he’s now 31 years old and i have to wonder – and i want to ask someone who knows better than i do about anthony joshua and his career and his background – whether this all kind Of came together for him on saturday night when he lost to usic because, as i suggested uh, he might have won given his reach uh.
But he was out boxed and clearly lost to to usyk.
And i have to wonder you know if i look back and i see all the heavyweights uh who are lined up behind him in the rankings.
Auntie joshua is now ranked number three uh behind tyson fury behind alexander, you said joshua’s three deonte wild, there’s, four and dillian white is number five.
I wonder whether anthony joshua will remain in the top five in his upcoming year.
Uh, as the heavyweight division opens up.
Hopefully we can get a christian on the line and he can address anthony joshua and and whether or not he is a good.
A boxer is reputed to be or as told to us by the british fans as to how good he is so um.
Let’S see if our producer can pull in uh christian von sponik from boxing 247, if not i’m more than happy to [ Music ] regale you with some other uh heavyweight names that have come up.
We recently discussed the heavyweights and and who is standing in line: andy ruiz, jr, michael hunter out of the usa, both out of usa.
Although andy ruiz, i think, has a mexican heritage.
Uh joseph parker, out of new zealand, joe joyce, another english fighter, tony yoku who’s.
Fighting out of france, louise ortiz who’s, fighting out of usa uh robert hellinius who’s uh out of finland, uh pergovic who’s out of croatia, charles martin, another american fighter coming up um, you know uh kabrapulev who’s out of bulgaria, and these are these are top 15 uh Heavyweights – and these are all big names um.
I myself among the rising stars like fa ajakba who’s out of nigeria, but even he’s behind the rankings behind right behind adam konachi who’s out of the usa as well number 18 on the list.
Out of curiosity, daniel dubois, fighting out of england, but he’s followed by ottawa, who fights out of sweden and then derek chizura, so there’s your top 20 list according to heavyweightboxing.
com and their rankings uh, it’s quite a list, it’s quite impressive, and it makes me wonder whether Anthony joshua will remain in the top fight top five in 2022 this upcoming year.
I don’t know if he’s deserving of a rematch with usyk, and i was hoping to ask that question of christian, whether he’s entitled um, you know to a rematch, i’m sure eddie hearn would like to see a rematch, but a year ago we were all hoping that Anthony joshua would go toe-to-toe against tyson fury.
Well.
That fight didn’t happen because uh the legal card uh was uh, was pulled by deonte wilder in his camp, so we have that fight coming up on october 9th and the winner loser of that fight will probably determine what anthony joshua’s next move will be again.
I’M chatting away here and expecting christian von sponak to join me any moment if he doesn’t i’d, be more than happy to entertain comments uh on the side uh in our chat room, if you’re, if you’re online, if not uh, keep silent, it’s okay, um i’m! I am kind of surprised that some of the other things in anthony joshua’s career that have popped up and – and that is the racial uh controversy uh – that he has found himself square in the middle of uh, going as far back as 2017.
hi.
I’M just giving this uh a second ago, all right, you’re, pretty good.
I think i can hear you just fine.
Well, i’ve got a funny feeling, graham apologies about this, but it’s not going to work uh.
Why? Well, you know what that gives me an opportunity to do.
Gives me an opportunity to regale you about these racial controversies.
So joshua was previously criticized for a set of incidents.
In november 2017 he called heavyweight boxer, eddie chambers, a disgrace to the superior black race on instagram uh eddie hearn said the message came from a fake account, but chambers showed it came from joshua’s verified account.
Joshua later appeared to voice support for zimbabwean dictator robert mugabe.
On snapchat hearn subsequently said, joshua has a major problem with social media accounts and suggested the accounts may have been hacked, but in june 2020 uh joshua was accused of racism for a speech at a black lives matter.
Protest in watford, where he said, show them where it hurts abstain from spending your money in their shops and economies and invest in black owned businesses.
This was interpreted by some as a call to boycott white businesses.
In response he said the speech was not his own and that he had only read it out on behalf of a friend.
He also said, if you think i’m racist go [ __, ] yourself, that’s uh, that’s anthony joshua and his background.
In a nutshell, in terms of his adult life and his his professional boxing career has been outstanding up until this past weekend, where it became rather suspect, where he was simply out boxed by alexander yusek and and he dropped down the rankings to number three.
So i have to, i really hope: uh christian comes online.
He keeps bouncing in and bouncing out by the way um.
You know this only opens up.
You know, quite frankly, uh another opportunity for us to speak about anthony joshua.
I thought we’d spoken about anthony joshua.
Quite a lot yesterday and uh and didn’t really think we needed to speak about auntie joshua anymore, simply because the heavyweight division is so clogged up and and needs to be unclogged christian.
Are you there? Can you hear me fine now? Can you hear us christian von sponik from boxing 247 live on the air? No, he can’t [ Music ].
Now i can’t even hear him speaking to his microphone for someone, okay, this is kind of funny for someone who has all that equipment come on like it’s great, so i’m lucky, but no joy.
I can hear you just fine, oh my god, okay boys, that’s it um! We’Ll have to suspend this one uh.
It seems that christian’s a little bit upset and i’ve been blabbering for 10 minutes about dante joshua, who, by the way, i thought would win that you sick fight.
I was wrong uh.
Why? Because he didn’t use his reach to his advantage and early in the rounds round, three in particular, he was beaten by usic and rep by round 12 uh.
He was spent and usyk beat him, had him on the ropes and made an easy decision for the judges right.
That’S it for me, then i’m out uh.
If christian comes on, he can have the show all to himself and tell you how great anthony joshua is or is not, i’m not sure, uh what what christian thinks, but i think the british really do like anthony joshua uh as they do like all of their Fighters uh, but there’s a huge backlog of great fighters from around the world, uh willing to challenge uh, whoever wins on october 9th and let’s see anyway.
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