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[, Music, ], [, Music, ], wow, hello, boxing fans around the world welcome to talk and fight and joining us.
Today we have christian von sponer from boxing247.
com and we’re doing our first.
Our debut episode of the boxing 247 show, and today we’re going to be talking about an upcoming fight that everyone’s been looking forward to uh for a long time and it’s finally coming just around the corner: uh the good old joshua versus usic fight.
So do you want to start us off christian? How do you feel absolutely looking forward to this advice on saturday and one of the key things for the love and uh? The reason why i’m looking forward to this fight so much is there is no clear-cut favorite, as in who’s going to be the winner there’s no outright winner.
There’S lots of falls against pros and cons, etcetera, really really looking forward to this one really excited for it.
Um, what do you think of it? What’S your view so far, um i’ll be blunt.
My money’s on joshua uh, i think he’s and he’s got the longer reach, i’m not going to say he’s a stronger, more powerful boxer, but uh he’s got a long now.
Having said that, if yusek gets him in in the inside, it’s going to be tight uh, but i think uh, my money’s on joshua i’ll, be blunt.
Yes uh.
I have to agree with you only for the fact that uh he has the advantages or majority of the advantages anyway, um – and this should be a case of because obviously, both have got olympic pedigree.
This should be the the the bigger great fighter against the smaller crate fighter and a bigger guy certainly gon na win this, but it isn’t, as far as i’m concerned, usually uh as simple as that um and there’s so many ins and outs and the problem is We still haven’t gauged how good usyk is at heavyweight from the two fights he’s had as a heavyweights.
I mean the fight which has with a spoon.
We didn’t really see anything from the six or seven rounds.
However, long about was, and with chizzora it was a mediocre.
It was a a good effort from him, but we still can’t gauge from that.
How he’s exactly gon na find music, and that is what, for myself, is going to be the very interesting part, because you know you cannot compare chizzora uh against aj with how the approach is going to be with using one of the key reasons is, that is Because you know the style in which uh chizzora was was coming in.
How do you want to put it in? In layman’s terms, he was bum, rushing um usic, he was taking two or three four or more shots and uh.
You know to risk it.
You know he would take them to get his club and blows in which he was doing with with some success.
But then it’s not going to be the approach which i don’t think um aj is going to take.
Because of from what we can tell he’s a bit suspect around the whiskers um, i think he’s going to be cautious in this fight um, and i think that what we’re going to get here.
This is just pune in my opinion, and how i see it developing is, i think, you’ll find that it’s going to be a very cautious fight, you’re going to see a light up.
We know that actually, so it’s a bit of an obvious statement, but do we see a more of a boxer uh in aj, more the kind of fighter that was in with andy ruiz in the second fight? Not he’s going to be that negative, but it’s going to be that kind of aj.
Instead of one that’s going to be gung-ho and get caught, as you did in the first brewers fight, i certainly see um a knock down early.
I think round.
Three, you see, usyk will land up on his backside.
Um with how good usyk is, there’s gon na be an a b c plan.
Whatever he’s revert, then over to plan b and he’s gon na be more cautious and he’s gon na be uh.
Unfortunately, it’s gon na become a bit of a, i think, a chess match from there, and that is where i completely agree with you, where the longer arms is going to be.
The reach is gon na, be such a key, an advantage for aj in this fight, and i think that’s what is gon na bring the victory, and i think it’s gon na be over the 12 rounds.
You think it’s going the distance.
Yes, i do um.
I think, because i think that yousick will be caught early.
I think he’s going to go into the plan b and it’s going to be more of a negative plan.
Being he’s going to be more cagey because he’s cagey.
That’S why i think he’s going to go the distance because he’s not going to leave himself open to that kind kind of onslaught if he was there trying to beat fire with fire.
Yes, absolutely um aj ko all the way uh, but i just think that once he’s tasted the power once he’s realized that meat and head-on.
If that was an approach at any point in the fight, it’s not going to work, i think it’s going to go to a chess match and he’s going to become he’s going to come second best on it.
Well, the heavy betting monies on him uh getting taken out of that fight, early music, that is um and yeah early um.
If i’m not mistaken, not not that i check these often uh, but the odds were 60 to one uh in favor of joshua yeah yeah.
So but if you went the distance uh and still won, it’s 21 odds so nonetheless the batters are supporting me.
It’S a good heavyweight fight.
It takes one punch very typical, i know, but this is i i put it a 60 45.
It’S it’s a fight, but there’s so many questions and it’s one where it’s all going to be down to the approach each fighter takes, you know, is it? Are they going to lock, horns and meet in the center of the ring? I doubt it but could happen at some point.
If either one of them gets hurt, the other person is going to unload um.
It’S there’s so there’s so many imponderables with this and so many different outcomes.
I think the approach is what’s going to dictate uh the outcome, and now, unfortunately, we can’t tell until fight night.
So if anybody says this is definitely going to happen or that or this absolutely not because the other i think other camp doesn’t know what the other person’s uh plan is, and it’s just that is the key.
You know you’re not gauging like a a wilder fight, for example, you know how he’s gon na come out fighting there’s so much into this one, and this is why i am super excited well, what are some of the intangibles too? Like the crowd, i mean that that’s a that’s a decent sized stadium and yeah.
You know when you six little travel, though he’s he’s well traveled um i mean you.
Could you can argue that aj is a home fighter such because, obviously his um worst performances obviously was was in the us and he’s now at tottenham hotspur club? That’S that’s home territory in the uk.
Um! Yes, um! That’S the spur in one, but i think you sick.
It won’t face him.
Silly, didn’t faze him uh! You know prior when he forward over here against uh bellew, so uh.
I don’t think that’ll face him um, but uh.
I wish i was there but uh on the tv it will be and we’ll be covering the uh, the fight as well.
What about the other uh intangible, the psychological desire? I mean they’re both on their way up in terms of their career, so neither one of them really has that advantage in terms of uh having you know a greater desire to win.
They both are pretty well unequal footing in that regard.
If you ask me, so i think i i think we’ll see a great start and i it’d be if it goes anyway.
It’Ll be a lucky punch uh.
I think they’re great defenders in that regard um, but i think that can happen both ways as well, because, obviously, with with joshua being a little bit suspect, um and obviously with business smaller smaller person.
But the thing is psychologically.
I just think as well that um, if we, if we could break that down, i personally think that uh it’s.
This could be one of the intangibles with the fact that has aj took music lightly.
Is there to be a problem with that? He says he hasn’t, but you know when you’re gon na have people around him saying.
Oh, this is just gon na, be a formality.
He’S the smaller guy.
Look at the chisora fight! Look at the witherspoon fight! The only two heavy white heavyweight bounces had prior didn’t.
Look, you know like he was, you know an a plus fighter in either those two fights um he may take lightly.
Is that gon na be the case, but indications of that with how he’s training the reports of him coming in light tends to show that he is taking it the right way and he is looking to box usyk, but are the reports uh right? Is everything uh? You know as it’s as it’s reported, we’ll only find out the weights on friday and everything else on the night can’t wait.
It’S gon na be fantastic and there’s some decent fights, uh happening on the on that same card uh.
Quite frankly, i don’t know if you want to touch me a couple of those but uh.
Also.
The other thing is that i i really do uh being based in the uk.
I do want um aj to win this because obviously the all english fight that can happen.
Obviously, if fury gets through uh wilder on october, the 9th um, it won’t be the same if, for example, either wilder or fury win, but uh aj doesn’t uh usyk against one of the other two.
It hasn’t got that same ring to it.
As the all british.
You know class, you know clashed with with aj and fury um, it’s it’s the set up what it can lead to.
You know having just said, then having just admired myself that that makes me think again that i don’t think actually uh with what i said earlier.
I don’t think aj is going to be taking this fight lightly.
I think there’s too much uh on the line here.
You know it’s the fight, it’s the defense.
It’S restoring his reputation because you know only since the uh the room is reversed.
There’S only been um i’ll help you out here the chappie fought a bulgarian um who did he fight? Last um he’s gone out of my head, pure uh left um.
You know that is mediocre performance.
He needs a top performance to reinstall everything, because the doubts are still on aj and you’ve got legacy here as well, because that fury fight lumen.
He cannot, i’m sure, he’s he’s professional enough to take this.
This fight seriously right can’t see him overlooking him um with that, i’m just trying to think of anything else.
That’S you know where we don’t know what’s going to happen with it um we don’t know still, i think, if using can really take a punch.
There is a question mark with that.
Yes, you took some uh chisora clubbing blows, but they were, you know, cuffing clubbing.
You know that is not a straight punch.
That is not a powerful punch that is not won from anthony joshua.
The two are not comparable.
How is he going to react when he gets hit and that’s why i think again going full circle back to what i said earlier when he does get hit and he’s hurt whether he goes down or not? I think that you’re going to see a very cagey usyk yeah and that’s why i really do think i can see this going the distance i really can but uh as they say anything that happens that you know you know anything can happen at a heavyweight pouch, Especially if you leave it in the hands of the judges – yes, that is in light of a lot of um.
How can we put it dodgy uk decisions uh recently uh without going into those uh a great deal, there’s been two or three very recently where it’s just been questionable.
Um, actually a good point: it’s if it goes.
The distance is the correct person to get the nod um.
I can only guess i don’t know who the judges are for the fight, but i can only guess that the uc count would have brought this and highlighted this up.
Obviously, with everybody, and hopefully the you know, you’re not going to get, for example, three uk judges and more suspect ones from the top ten of uh questionable judges that give very questionable decisions.
Um.
You know you you’d hope that it will be.
You know sort of neutral as such, but um yeah.
So that’s a good one.
Do you think about that good point? Thank you.
Well, have we uh covered all the major points i mean this has been a great discussion, um happy to just while we’re here very quickly as because, obviously i don’t overlook saturday, you know fury versus wilder.
Very briefly.
What is your opinion now? We have what just uh you know it’s next month now: okay and it’s on my birthday as well october, the 9th.
What a what this one, this one is more of a personal swing um.
I was really looking forward to the fury, joshua fight.
Okay, then, of course, as we all know, uh wilder wanted that trilogy, so he got in okay, but as we’re leading up to the fury wilder battle.
Quite frankly, uh i really don’t like the cockiness of fury going in.
I mean he’s just he’s a little over the top and – and i like the kind of laid back style that wild is presenting.
So he kind of resembles an underdog in a classic fight.
And you have to be wary of the underdog, and you know especially one that can kick like a meal as well: yeah, yeah and then and fury going into this full of piss and vinegar, and you can muster all the bravado he wants on paper.
If you will uh but wilder’s, keeping it simple and he’s a powerful man and he’s got that vicious right and uh, you know if you’re, if you ask me, i mean this one, this one is this one’s closer in my books, uh than the the darshan joshua.
I mean i, i can’t i can’t i can’t put my finger on this one just yet, but i’m going on a personal.
I like the way wild is handling himself pre-fight as we get closer to the fight.
You know i want to see how things shape up before i make an actual call um.
I’M i’m really looking forward to that.
Believe me on your birthday, i’m really looking forward to that fight as well.
That’S going to be a great a great present for you personally early predict early prediction wilder for me for that one fury to overlook wilder wilder to come in not so complacent and uh to put a little bit of performance, and i think uh wilder all the Way, i think it’s a 50 50 fight, but uh right, half the head, absolutely a world all the way for me, but uh we’ll leave that one there looking forward to saturday.
Absolutely so, i’m stick.
I’M sticking with uh with you on the uh, the joshua victory and i think points i’m guessing you think of stoppage.
Yes uh.
I i just don’t think music has the power to go the distance.
I do think joshua does um and i think i i think i think he’s going to knock out usyk before the sixth round doesn’t knock out interesting interesting.
Does anyone wait to find out we’re going to watch seven? That’S right! We will find out.
It will be absolutely no points or uh points for me, but uh, that’s a good one! Well, there you go so with that in mind, we’ll be here tomorrow same time, uh, don’t forget, obviously, to subscribe first off to us boxing 247 tv.
That is the german way of spelling that box en and obviously talking fight as usual two thumbs up.
Well done.
Thanks for this great debut episode, i really appreciated it.
Uh good talk, good discussion, i’m looking forward to the fight on saturday as you are, and then, of course, the follow up on october, 9th your birthday um when fury goes against wilder they’re, both going to be great fights and they’re, both great cards so uh.
A great few weeks of great boxing coming up looking forward to it yep absolutely.
Thank you very much, sir.
Tomorrow i’ll coach, the ingram, thank you, cheers
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