Mega Match Breakdown | The Sugar Show with Natalie Brown
EPISODE: Episode 3
Mega Match Breakdown | The Sugar Show with Natalie Brown
As always Natalie discusses the up-and-coming female fighters in the sport of boxing. In this episode she looks at the historic fight between Clarissa Shields and Savannah Marshall.
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Is the sugar show with Natalie sugar brown, where you and I you and Natalie Sugar Brown gets to talk to talk about women’s boxing? I am sugar, aka Miss too bad Natalie and I am a former professional woman.
Okay, well semi-retired, I don’t know, might I might dust the gloves off if, if I get the right price, the right contract? But this is my platform to talk the talk to talk women’s boxing with you guys, my Misfits that show up giving you the authentic authentic perspective of women’s boxing and the business and the industry and how it really goes.
Uh down here out here, uh with us, women Behaving Badly okay, so yes, we are here and it has happened.
Tonight’S show is called Mega, Match breakdown and y’all know what Mega Match we’re talking about.
We talking about the Clarissa Shields, Savannah Marshall card breakdown.
It was, it was a great show.
I can say I enjoyed um.
Sorry, sorry, undercard lady, I mean sorry undercard.
Ladies, I can’t get you no love.
Okay, um, but uh y’all were very supported in in showing out for the um and and being a part of this that a groundbreaking uh moment in women’s boxing, where you guys um, Michael Orr, comes in already Shields broke Marshall down.
Okay, we want to talk about it groundbreaking though.
Let’S talk about historical value of this match, I think they did an excellent job in um.
I I would say showcasing and putting on in in putting on this show.
Okay, they had a great press conference.
They had great public workout um, they um they had the the ladies walk out in style, walk in the venue in style um.
They dressed it up and put it in a Right View to food package um.
So let’s talk.
Okay, I was hoping more.
People would show up, especially with all that Yang they was talking prior to about somebody getting knocked out um yet and still we here and we’re gon na talk the talk.
Okay, so we’re gon na talk to talk still um, so Michael Oher says women’s boxing channel is here where you at Women’s Boxing Channel, where you at.
I don’t see you, oh man, so I can’t see messages tonight so my producer, my co-producer Mike, is going to have to translate and tell me what y’all saying out here I mean this really sucks um women’s Boxing Channel.
You have a lot to say.
I mean what kind of thing: what kind of night is this all right, so we I’m going to give the break down.
Okay, um, I’m not seeing anything coming in women’s Boxing Channel comes up high I’ll repost, the all in same order, so you in the building! Okay, thank you for showing up women’s Boxing Channel.
I couldn’t wait to get together.
Hey sugar! Let’S have a good one.
Let’S have a good one, so um! Well, you know they say, ladies first, so I’m going to start it off in women’s boxing we gon na.
We Gon na Keep it going okay.
So, let’s start off with the co-main event, let’s start off with the co-main event: okay, before we even get into the shields Marshall.
Let’S talk about mayor baumgarner, okay, um slow down women’s Boxing Channel Okay, so I’m I got ta.
I I got to do uh I I got to do like the progression of this match because I think the per the the the broad the right broad won the match.
First off, that’s what I want to say: okay, um Alicia from Gardner grew up on us.
Okay, she wasn’t the same little Middle School.
Looking uh playground, fighting ass little girl that we saw before that leonidarto had to you know, beat up a little bit.
She changed and I like what she became.
I liked the broad she has turned into young and Scrappy too girl.
You got a bright future.
Now I want to talk about um.
I want to talk about what the game plan was because boy.
This thing the girl gave me life.
Okay, the the girl made me feel like she.
It was a little bit of sugar in there.
Okay, she had me on that.
She she had me bouncing in there okay now this is the thing.
Okay, I listen.
I mean I got ta.
Keep I loved it from the beginning to the end Miss bumgardner was in there I’m sorry, I had to say she took on a little bit of sugar.
She came out at the press conference and she was such a spicy little [, __ ].
It made me want to see her do what she said she was going to do to Michaela in the ring.
With her I mean, and she beat Michaela on F at every turn, all the way into the ring.
The girl showed up looking hot looking good Michaela Meyer came what what was the jacket she was wearing, though I’m sorry, I’m gon na have to go in Michaela Meyer cause.
Listen Us in women’s boxing is talking and we I ain’t the one I I ain’t, the only one that said this Michaela Meyer had on the Thriller Michael Jackson jacket.
She looked like she was going.
She looked like she just came off the set on on the Disney version of Michael Jackson.
Thriller girl, it was not.
Your outfit – was not giving okay and then, during the re I mean during the press conference.
She wouldn’t even she wouldn’t even really look at and engage with Alicia Baumgardner, so we were all saying: Alicia got her beat already right.
She Alicia was getting under her skin telling her Saturday, I’m gon na beat you Saturday, I’m gon na.
Take your belt Saturday, I’m gon na bust, your ass, and it was just wonderful, Michaela Meyer.
I don’t want to do it.
Coach Al wants us to train.
She was deflecting everything instead of looking at her and telling her what she not gon na do on Saturday.
So you know you were champion and you have your belts or whatever.
If somebody’s telling you what they’re gon na do to you, you might have to remix it and let them know no, no boo-boo, no boo-boo.
This is what’s going to happen to you on Saturday, but Michaela didn’t have the Moxie and that’s what I always saw.
I always saw Michaela Meyer being protected.
Remember this is women Behaving Badly? So, yes, we are gon na.
We are some bully [ __ ].
Yes, we are some meanies, yes, but we’re also nice with it right and yes, we’re also confident enough to say the bad naughtiness that we’re going to do.
Okay, and if you disagree with the fact that I’m gon na bust your ass, you better tell me a different story and a better story and the audience is there to hear it.
That’S what’s selling that’s what women’s boxing! That’S what sells us right? We don’t walk around being tough guys, we walk around being women who will behave and who behave badly, okay and so um.
You know you guys y’all need to type and send a letter to whoever y’all need to send it to because listen.
It was a pretty decent, the person who hosted the uh.
You know pre-fight interview and everything she it was okay.
She sounded like she sounded like a principal she’s sounded like a principal interviewing two girls who are gon na fight in the schoolyard right.
No yeah y’all need to find better y’all need to find uh people who gon na do a better job right, because y’all put so much money into all the other.
Theatrics y’all need a personality to get this thing going right.
So it’s not oh! So what do you think it sounds like you guys have a you guys, just hate each other and dislike each other, and we can’t say we can’t wait for Saturday.
No, you need somebody to say, oh girl, and it’s been how many years since you’ve been won.
The bus, her ass really and it’s been how many years since she said what to you and in amateurs really, so it’s really messy ain’t it so Saturday right, you need somebody to sell it.
You you all need a better instigator, okay, because at the end of the day, it’s a fight.
Now, let’s get into fight night.
Okay, so fight starts, and you know we got a lot of Faking round one.
We got a lot of Faking.
We got a lot of fainting, we got a lot of you know measuring we we, you know pawing jobs, you know with no real action started off in round one.
You would think right, but two of these are both of these.
Ladies has seemed to have a plan for for that ass for each other, okay, and so when there are strategies when there are real strategies, fights build slowly right and that’s for people who know boxing right when they come in guns are blazing.
There was no plan.
There’S really no strategy in that, so these two ladies, were taking their time and they were going to use every bit of the round to set up the plan so from round one I saw where Michaela does what she always normally does right.
She Jukes and jives right and she sets up her range and her long range and Alicia uh, also shooting and and jiving and faking right.
But what people didn’t understand or what people haven’t seen, because there are a lot of people up in arms about uh how the fight went and they they believe mayor won, which mayor didn’t want to win in round.
One mayor set up her range and mayor is a long-range fighter.
Mayor fights off mayor fights in deep water.
She fights her opponent in deep water as we call it, and deep water means at the end of her long range.
Okay, because that’s where she has leverage on her shots, Michaela Myers, most powerful on the outside okay, so the shorter fighter, Alicia Von Gardner.
Now everyone – the simple people in boxing – would think.
Oh she’s got to get in She’s, Got ta Get in, She’s, Got ta Get In the Land, but that’s the simple folks: let’s talk real boxing okay, so this is what I loved and I saw it unfold in front of me and it just delighted me Alicia, Said, oh, you want to fight me in deep water.
All right, I can swim and she stayed out there at the end of the range which I always like.
This is what I’m saying, which is what sugar would do right: stay out: fight right because she’s in tremendous shape, so yeah I’ll fight water, because I can swim right.
My skills and my conditioning and my power gon na keep me afloat, and so, when Michaela right going into round two is thinking got her where she, where I want her Alicia Von Gardner, is fighting her in fighting her in her range, so she’s staying at the End of those shots, but she’s not afraid of those hard shots coming in.
Why? Because let me explain to you the math, okay, so Michaela Meyer is the taller fighter.
Alicia Von Garners the shorter fighter.
Everyone knows: okay, height is an asset in the fight right.
It gives you range right and the shorter person would have to fight to come in, but also if the shorter person makes you step outside of your range.
You become shorter because now you’re, reaching you’re, sacrificing your height by reaching out to catch or to to connect with the strike of the impo of the opponent in front of you.
So in doing this now, Alicia bumgardner starts stepping back right start, stepping back outside of Michaela, Myers or range and making Michaela Meyer reach just a little bit more every time she shoots a shot until next.
You know you see.
Michaela start exaggerating that long ass jab that she has exaggerating that right hand and reaching to connect while Alicia is on the end, making her Miss now, when she’s, reaching she’s reaching she’s shrinking down to Alicia’s height okay, now in what’s going on here, Michaela Meyer doesn’t Realize nor does coach Al realize what’s happening and with the set out what the setup is right with between um corner and corner.
I think Alicia bumgarner’s Corner was brilliant in coming up with this strategy, because it’s the same, I would have taken the same way.
I would have given her exactly what she wanted.
I would have played her game against her, so now she’s reaching right and now uh going into round four right.
Because sorry I don’t have I I don’t, have footage, don’t can’t get flagged and I don’t have a slideshow.
But by round four um Michaela is reaching and missing shots, and now, when you’re, reaching and you’re and and you’re shooting those long shots, your punch volume decreases right, so she’s trying so hard to connect with the one long shot that she’s not coming with more than One or two shots at a time and what Alicia is doing at the end of Michaela’s range just outside is she’s deflecting the shots and because Michaela now is in position from reaching she’s right in she’s.
Right at the point where Alicia can run her hands and connect with her so she’s getting timed now reaching missing and then getting countered right.
So Alicia now has the timing on that.
Every time she attempts every time, Michaela attempts that long ass shot, Alicia deflects and runs her hands back with three three to four punch: combinations, okay and strong shots coming back, overhands catching Michaela with that overhand coming in after she’s, reaching um or or foreign simultaneously with Michaela, reaching in for those straight long, Jabs and and straight long right, hands.
Okay, now we’re getting to maybe rounds uh, six or seven and now Alicia Bumgarner is stepping around Michaela Meyer while deflecting shots while making her reach and then countering with three to four punch combinations where Michaela Maya is still stepping to her slow and long like Frankenstein And getting countered and missing those long shots, so the whole General ship looks like bumgardner is the one in charge? Okay, bumgarden! It started out where bumgardner let her think that yeah you’re the Hunter and I’m the prey, and by round seven eight from Garner turned to fight around and Bumgarner became the Hunter and Michaela Meyer ended up being the prey who was getting her ass ate up by Counter punches trying to find her way out of the maze that Alicia uh was making for her by now bouncing on her toes and deflecting shots, and just a wonderful execution of the performance um in winning this Undisputed lightweight match.
Now I’m going to go in with these guys because they’ve been like they’ve, been back and forth with women’s Boxing Channel and Michael or been going at it.
While I’m doing the recap on this fight – and I feel kind of left out, so I’m going to read.
Okay, so women’s Boxing Channel comes out, saying: uh Shields won fair and square, and Bumgarner won one two three eight ten and it should have been a draw.
Nah boo, boo, bumgardner won that fight okay, anal rounds and Michaela.
We talking about General [, __ ], we’re not talking about Point fighting uh and please tell me where you saw uh Michaela ever in charge in that in that match, Michaela was dancing to Alicia’s tune.
If you, if you were watching the match, right, see it’s not about uh, sometimes it’s it’s not about punches act actually connecting.
There is layers to it right, there’s the setup.
Okay, so yeah she might have got hit with punches, but you’re not seeing that your girl, Michaela, was getting to ate up by counter punches and Michaela.
Now was not throwing punches in volume because she was stepping into the traps set by Alicia bumgardner.
Okay, um Alicia made her reach and fold her long ass body over and was catching her with body shots.
Y’All didn’t see that so when you make a fighter put themselves in a position to get hit, when you see a fighter, make another fighter put themselves in a in different positions, so they can get hit.
It’S called generalship right, the fighter one’s leading the dance and the one who’s leading the dance is the one who’s winning and Alicia Bumgarner was leading the dance okay, uh May uh women’s Boston Channel, says mayor can bugger off with her rematch request, as she didn’t give Him a douche one when hamaduce won, but mayor got the non through uh being through bent top ranked judges.
Did she really think she was gon na get a rematch as many people as Michaela Meyer robbed? She really thought she was going to get it.
That’S what that tickled me so much? She thought she was gon na get a.
I love to win.
Alicia said no.
She that girl ain’t getting no rematch, I’m I’m moving on to bed, I’m moving on to Undisputed Choi girl.
Who is you now to beat you get to the end of the line like Michaela Myers like she didn’t get it you’re, not that gal anymore, bye, bye, something about rematch girl, child, please um! So yeah you ain’t getting no rematch Boo Boo and we don’t want to see that again to be honest, um women’s Boxing Channel said first time.
Uh mayor doesn’t have her Bob Aaron by his judges and she loses, I mean, did you see, but looking at her performance did she? She did the same ass thing that she’s always done.
She did the same thing.
That she’s did, you think.
Did you think that Watusi was going to be cute in England, not girl, you’re, not on your porch? You got to come out with something better.
You got to get us interested like.
Did she really think that being Michaela Meyer was gon na win her that match? She came with that same.
I think she girl child, please, no okay, and she was a spoiled sport about it too.
You know after she she really um.
She really showed who she was right.
You you, you know she.
She showed that you are not that uh.
Nice girl next door that you want everyone to be.
You were spoiled ass, little girl and you may need to go taste, sit your ass down or take a little break and and and find out and learn about yourself.
Just like Alicia bumgartner did right, bumgardner ate the Humble Pie.
Leonardo got beat beat her ass, she did she did and she went and, like she said, I worked my ass off for this right eat.
The pie y’all been watching that series, I’m not even gon na, say the name eat the pie.
Okay, eat that Humble Pie: okay, because ain’t, nothing, we’ve all we’re women, okay in life, we’re people in life; and sometimes you you have you get a Big Slice of humble pie.
Okay and you got ta, have a strong stomach or you got ta, be strong enough to eat that slice and come back again and it’s okay.
It’S okay, um women’s Boxing Channel said you talk about mayor’s outfit, but bumgarner’s knickers were a bit short that, what’s with wearing thongs nowadays, when she walks she looked like she was chewing a toffee ain’t.
Complaining just saying.
Let me tell you something: you complaining about seeing us seeing um some nice legs and a nice ass.
Are you really complaining um Sugar’s? Last fight? I might put my last fight.
My last outfit was similar to bumgarner’s outfit.
Okay, they really like.
I was she.
I don’t know like I said it looked like she, she might have been feeling sugar, okay, because her outfit was very much like.
My very was what I wore my La the outfit that I wore my last fight and uh.
I wore the French cut panties under the under the um.
It was in boxing trunks.
It was a um, a drape in the front and the drape in the back, and if you saw something it was your lucky night, okay, because, yes, when you get to that point, you work damn hard.
I don’t let I ain’t hiding nothing.
I shaved right.
You can look at this nice ass.
You can look at this.
These nicely shaped legs.
You want toffee, you want to choose some toffee.
I got I got a lot of so I got my.
I got a lot of stuff, my bum kid.
You could Chew Chew.
On This bum too, you know what I’m saying she looked: fantastic, okay, I’m not mayor, looked good too.
Mayor was in great shape or whatever, but uh Alicia bumgardner.
She could have.
She could have went ahead and done a fitness, competition, uh uh, one of those bikini competitions immediately after the fight and still win, and that’s what I’m talking about right slaying.
I’M a fan, she’s a sugar.
She she Alicia, you got me girl, congratulations! I am so proud of you um.
I I that that’s just the end.
She shows that her performance and and how she handled the whole thing is shows the evolution of women’s boxing.
Yes, right, um, that’s what I envisioned a a woman boxer would be like, or one type of woman boxer would be like right, um and, like I said you know, she took a page from all of us uh before her.
That was that type of broad right.
She would she she’s just a sexy badass and she went in there and she and she got it.
I love that um Michael Orr says the women’s boxing champ WBC.
I did notice the same thing.
Okay, then Michael or so you it sounds like y’all got some good taste y’all, just not y’all, just not trying to um embrace it.
Okay, if you noticed it, that means you looking at something good.
Um uh, Michael Orr, says her bum looked very hungry.
Women’S Boxing Channel says hahaha Mike bum gardenering, okay, so y’all going in on my girl, listen y’all, can’t say y’all can’t say nothing else right.
It was looking good um mayor didn’t make readjustments to her game in the fourth.
She made readjustments to her game in the fourth, but by that time she was already locked into reaching and she was getting timed and countered like a mug.
It was pretty much over for her right because by the fourth round, remember it’s two minute rounds.
It’S a Sprint! You got to now catch up.
You got to start catching up.
You can’t, if you get to the fourth round and they’re, not clear about who’s winning.
I don’t know what to say right: that’s the thing about two minute rounds.
You think um people think that two minute rounds is the same as when um or you know, the rounds are the same as with the guys, but the rounds are not the same as with the guys.
Two minutes is a totally different game plan.
Okay, you got to do what you need to do right there.
You are sacrificing you.
You are sacrificing rounds in two minute rounds because uh the setup.
You don’t have that long to set up like how the the males have that time that, through that full other minute to set some stuff up, you don’t right.
So you have to be subtle and you have to break that time down wisely in order to execute a proper strategy and plan right without it.
Looking like a glorified amateur match, Katie Taylor, you know what I’m saying: bumgardner, really boxed Bumgarner by Michaela Meyer box too.
Right but Alicia Bumgarner evolved.
She changed the game.
Everybody see that you can execute a plan and strategy a good one right.
I I A A set up type strategy into into minutes.
I think it’s a 10 rounder right and with two minute rounds.
Uh um in 10 Rounds with two minutes duration right nobody’s looking at that, but sugar is letting y’all know.
Okay, this performance looked nothing like um Katie, Taylor versus Amanda, Serrano, right, Katie, Taylor versus Amanda, Serrano, glorified amateur Point fighting.
Yes, I said that Michaela Meyer versus Alicia, bumgardner professional boxing, and that’s what excites me or excited me about this match.
Both ladies had wonderful strategies right and both ladies executed right.
It’S just that bumgardner now elevated the game, because Michaela Meyer thought that she was going to come with the same cookie cutter ass strategy that she was beating everybody with her and Coach Al Haymon.
He should know better right and Alicia and her people said nah.
We got some tricks to up our sleeves and they won um Michael Orr says sugar.
You have them boots.
Oh my gosh right.
You see that you just make me feel good about the stuff I do and sugar sugar, because somebody put some article came out.
People just be writing anything about women’s boxing talking about um, these girls so and so pulled at ebony Bridges.
I didn’t even want to say this who the hell is Ebony Bridges talking about.
She pulled a ebony Bridges by um, showing up to weigh-in weighing in in lingerie.
Are you stupid? Whoever it is that wrote that I’m calling? No, I’m not asking you you stupid! You made a whole last article without doing homework.
Um women us women been weighing in and fighting in, lingerie.
Okay, that wasn’t nothing new and Ebony Bridges, ain’t starting nothing.
Okay, did she had everybody’s eyes on her because she got them tickled, Bitties, okay and she made quite an investment in having that right, but ebony Bridges.
She ain’t even no fighter on no level to be talking about.
She set any trend.
So, let’s dead that okay ebony, you doing all right out there and you cute out there whatever but come on now, dude um, you ain’t setting no Trend! Okay, um! I believe it was Kathy Collins um.
I was the first woman that I saw weighing in lingerie, but women were weighing in in lingerie in the 18 1900s, when women’s were boxing, because that’s all they they they fought in their knickers, which was lingerie, okay, so um that okay and that’s number one number Two at the women – I I want to make this – I want to make this point at the first Women’s World Championships.
Well, no, the second Women’s World Championships, which was in Turkey, they made all of us weigh in naked and the male coaches were in there too.
Okay, so ain’t no first or anything like that, we, like we’ve, been we we’ve been showing up.
We’Ve we’ve been been right, we’ve been been being naughty, we’ve been been doing outrageous, stuff, okay, um, and it just shows our dedication and the respect that we have for what we do: okay, um and and making it in showing up.
Despite of all of these things that people may um make us feel negatively about, we still showed up and we did it and we we were empowered by doing what we did and we still are empowered by doing what we do.
Um now uh Michael Orr, says: bumgardner was explosive, encounter uh encountered superbly, but it lacked rhythm uh Mike.
I don’t know what you’re talking about in with rhythm.
Please um elaborate more on rhythm right, because I’m going to say this just because you don’t understand the Rhythm don’t mean is out of rhythm okay, I totally understood everything that bumgardner did um Michael Oher comes in.
She couldn’t get into a flow she has.
She did get into the flow right, um uh, Michael Orr, says every time she went back to the corner.
She was told to let her hands go.
That doesn’t mean she wasn’t flowing right, they’re going to tell when you go back to the corner.
If they tell you, um, women’s Boxing Channel LOL might got told no, it’s not that I’m telling anybody, I’m letting y’all know from somebody who has actually fought and been in there.
Okay, this fight, like the re.
This reason why I’m spending so much time talking about this fight is because this fight, I this fight, speaks to me.
This fight is how sugar fights right she brought.
She brought that [ __ ] back.
I I was so proud to see that that little Broad in there right because it makes it made me feel like you know, I left something in there right.
She came back and she was she.
She was doing exactly.
She looked like little sugar in there and um.
I’M I’m gon na claim it um.
Maybe she didn’t feel like it, but you know what I’m saying: look at look at sugars, oh fight, look at Sugar’s, last fight, same thing, um and so um.
It wasn’t if, if you go back to your corner and they say you’re doing great, oh you’re doing good what we do is we tend to leave that urgency on the stool when we go back out there, so they had to tell her let your hands go.
Let your hands go right, so she keeps the urgency in putting her shots together and knowing that she’s got ta She’s Got ta, Throw no less than three to four punches right.
So it’s not y’all are looking for that point.
Fighting [ __ ] and I’m letting y’all know that that Rhythm and stuff that’s Point fighting we talking about pro boxing we’re talking about fighting right, the anal Rhythm.
There is a rhythm in fighting, but it ain’t what you think.
It’S going to look like right, y’all, they’re, talking y’all, looking at uh Katie Taylor y’all, looking at Serrano.
They they fight like amateurs, so you’re gon na see a rhythm move, move up, move, move, that’s amateur! Fighting Pro fighting is seeing, what’s what’s doing, what’s necessary on the spot, trying to open in Opportunity or seeing what’s in the present and taking as much of that as you can right and it’s something and it looks like it’s not a rhythm, but it is.
It is she leaned over boom.
I touched that body right.
It’S not because she leaned over off the side she’s boom.
I touched the body imma go back to that.
That’S a shot! That’S gone! That’S gon na come back to me uh in another two rounds, because I hit her rib yeah right.
I’M hitting her I’m hitting her kidneys right.
These shots are gon na, come back to me two rounds from now and that’s what bumgardner was doing and it was beautiful because that’s what you had to do against a fighter like Michaela Meyer Michaela Meyer is tall compared to Alicia bungardner.
You have to fold her.
You have to make her give up height right.
You have to make her give you an angle, so you can strike if she’s standing straight up, you’re not going to be able to hit that angle and the only way you’re going to be able to connect with her is.
If you try to come straight in now, if she’s at an angle, you have different bites that you can take that’s fighting and a lot of people, don’t know [ __ ] about fighting okay.
You can read books about how to box and point fight, but professional boxing is a fight.
It’S a fight, it’s not hit and don’t get hit, is hit and think about what kind of hit that you might have to take to get that other head.
I’Ve gone in there and I’ve I’ve been in there.
I’Ve weighed I’ve weighed the options.
If I step in that’s, why now we use our shoulders when we go in, we go in behind our hands, we go behind our shoulders to deflect shots and that that shot is still gon na.
That shot is still gon na graze.
You sometimes or you may catch the shot to come in, so you can come up with a heavier shot or you could come over with a heavier shot right.
That’S fighting! That’S the setup! That’S the adrenal Adrenaline Rush that I was so addicted to, because you really don’t feel that right, um, that’s where these guards – and you know, Philly, shell and all of that stuff, come in because the guard is used now because you you’ve been a walk through fire Gunfire bombs, right and instead of running away now, like these glorified amateur boxers hit and don’t get hit, track.
Star [, __ ], you putting your guard up and you step in right and you catching and you’re giving back and you catching and you posting and you setting up you rocking back off the leverage and giving it that’s fine fight.
Okay, that’s when the rabbit hole gets deeper.
So congratulations! Y’All! In watching this fight.
You have witnessed a step up in women’s boxing um Michael Orr says she counters superbly, I’m not taking that from her.
But for me she could have had them hands busier when she was on the front foot moving forward.
She might have been able to score a knockdown or finish um.
I I hear what you’re saying Mike um, but that’s one dimensional fighting.
I want you to watch the fight again I wish I was able to.
I I’m gon na try to figure out you guys a way how we can get these, how we can watch these fights together, but it wasn’t about the obvious.
The obvious wasn’t going to win Alicia bumgardner, the fight right, because, obviously Michaela Myers bigger, obviously her shots are longer.
Obviously the all of the obvious advantages belong to Meyer right.
She had to make or break Meyer down in other ways in order to land.
In order to put Meyer in positions where she can strike her and the thing about it, is she understood that Michaela Meyer, psychologically ain’t got it right because boxing a fight is mind and body, mind and body you getting ahead, you throw in these counters and you’re Michaela Meyer, these always work these always working boom.
The hell that confirmed she’s not supposed to be hitting me that’s what Michaela was thinking right.
She slumped over she’s bent over and she’s over extending her shots right and then oh, oh [, __ ].
She hit my body she’s, not supposed to be hitting me here.
These thoughts right start lingering.
In her mind, we we not GoBots in there.
I i i i i this.
What I want you all to understand: Alicia made it a profite.
She made that [ __ ] real against um Michaela she broke Michaela down.
Michaela then started to overreach chase.
Her Michaela Martin started to throw harder than she probably should have, because now she’s thinking I’ve got to get it back.
I got ta get her.
How is she hitting me? I got ta get her without realizing that what’s beating her is the fact that Bumgarner is making her make mistakes.
Making her sacrifice her posture, making her over, extend her range, making her throw harder shots, making her not think about her big plan, making her more frustrated, okay and being right, there Alicia’s being right there to capitalize on all of those mistakes.
Every time Michaela Meyer attempts to attack, that’s the mine, that’s real boxing, that’s real fighting and that’s how Alicia bumgardner won um Michael or said she might have been able to score a knock down nah.
She wouldn’t score him.
A knock down against Michaela Meyer um bumgardner.
Wasn’T able wouldn’t uh bumgardner is not seasoned enough, the punches and her angles and what she knows right now.
I see the potential of her one day being able to do that to a fighter like Michaela Meyer again in the future, but at this time she’s not seasoned enough to do that, and the reason why she was able to knock Terry Harper out is because Terry Harper look at her at 152.
Looking looking like um, she belonged there.
Terry Harper’s, um fight was with the weight.
Terry Harper could not make that weight anymore.
So when bumgardner came and blasted her with that shot, she wasn’t able to come back from it right.
Michaela Meyer is that weight right, so that’s not going to do nothing to Michaela, Meyer and and Bumgarner.
Don’T have that knockout power to drop no Michaela Meyer when she’s in her full weight.
Okay, um uh women’s Boxing Channel, says one main difference between mayor and bomb.
Is that Bob sits on her shots way more than mayor to the body um mayor nah? Don’T sleep on mayor’s body shots mayor, executes beautiful body, shots right, it’s just that! May all of mayor’s previous opponents were tailor-made.
Remember I did the episode about hand-picked y’all got ta keep up with sugar, it’s a real like what I’m saying is real.
One thing leads to the next.
If y’all keep up with my shows, y’all will understand how these things come together.
Now right, so when you’re in front of Fighters that you’re that’s tailored hand-picked and tailor-made for you, you know you look, you look devastating you, you look.
You know amazing right when you’re in front of a fighter who’s actually a contender and a Challenger.
He ain’t looking so hot right, because nothing is planned.
There’S no silent agreements that what’s what you practiced in the gym is gon na happen in the fight right.
You got to set that [ __ ] up, you got ta, you got to plant the seed and hope something grows from round one till the to the very last round and you got to cultivate the ass whooping.
That’S how that works.
So, that’s why I’m spending so much time on this fight right, because you’re, looking at a fighter, who’s always had Cherry pickings have to now fight a real problem.
A real Contender and y’all see y’all saw how it went.
You see how it goes.
That’S the worst nightmare of all of these paper tiger ass broads out here.
What Michaela Meyer went through yeah right, so that was her comeuppance right that that’s what that was a long time coming from Michaela and her ass should appreciate.
I mean she should have prepared for it.
You don’t come in.
You don’t come into a fight like that doing what you’ve always done.
You got to know that a real Contender is gon na.
Do their homework on your ass right.
You got to know that you, you got to know that somebody who really wants to win is going to crack your damn code.
Um Michael Orr says, is Seek and Destroy.
To be honest, I thought this fight should have happened on USA, soil didn’t matter to me where it happened, because that fight was a great fight for everyone and anyone to see on whatever soil it was um.
Michael Oher says for me.
This fight, though, short of expectations, considering both their future opponents for k, um expectation, considering both their future opponents for Katie Taylor, man um, I’m not you, Taylor, fight anybody anymore, especially after these two fought.
Those two are real Fighters.
What am I do like? Why are we? Why do we want to see them fight and a glorified amateur to see how they beat how to see to see them come this like, because uh Katie Taylor in them is not gon na? Let uh Katie fight, none of them girls.
If that’s, how they’re looking if, if that’s, how they’re fighting right just know, just know that those were those are two real strategies: Michaela Meyer and Alicia bumgardner, two real strategists, okay, they broke them two minutes down and they they put the skills in it to pay.
The bills um Michael Orr, says uh, fell short of okay, Michael Orr also says so you’re saying the Lacks you’re saying she lacks the ring experience.
I suppose you mean about me saying: bumgardner is not seasoned enough uh to do what you you’re expecting her to do.
Exactly she’s a young broad, I think, she’s still in her 20s.
That’S that’s Crone [ __ ] that you’re trying that you’re talking about right and I’m fingers crossed that we get to that soon to where we’re not even excited about a young bro, a little girl, um, finally, finally being able to execute a plan in the ring.
We’Re going into Crohn’s now that know how to put an ass whooping together, right and and can make and and can make some [ __ ] happen in there right.
I’M just I’m just happy that I don’t have to see glorified amateur boxing anymore.
I’M just happy about that: okay um! So, yes, I see a good future in Bumgarner becoming a badass Crone um, a bad at growing into being a badass, Broad and being good at um.
What what she’s gon na ultimately be, which is a great Champion um women’s boxing, says I’m a douche.
Wasn’T a cherry pick? She was a World Champ holding the ibf.
Here we go again, did you look at? Did you watch my uh belts and bodies? Um? Did you watch my belts and bodies episode? I don’t care if she had the the Macy’s um glitter Barbie doll belt.
I don’t care, she paid her fee and she had a belt right.
I’M a douche was also one-dimensional.
She came straight forward.
She was there for Michaela to hit.
It was just that Hama.
Douche is tough as nails and was strong and the pressure was too much for Michaela and I think she, I think the pressure did beat Michaela right, but that that style was Cherry Picked because she fought the same.
Look at look at the progression of the fighters that they’re putting in front of Michaela Meyer.
Okay, she fought she looked the same type of style and the same type of fight as um Helen, Joseph okay, look at it straight forward, one dimensional! No head movement, no jiving, no changing of levels; no changing of ranges, which is what Alicia bumgardner put in front of her Michael Orr, says: LOL.
Yes, Michael Oher also says she’s, 28 years old, yeah, so she’s, a young, broad um women’s Boxing Channel, says and Hama douche beat obanov Sanchez and Messi along the way.
Okay good on her um does uh.
That does that mean that her style styles make fights Boo Boo.
This is what I’m saying.
So, I’m not saying she was easy.
What I’m saying is she was picked.
She was cherry-picked.
Her style was simple enough, even though she was a champion with it.
Her style was simple enough to make mayor look great and to make mayor look good enough to beat her.
I’M not saying mayor is a walk in the park.
What I’m saying is Mayor is a made fighter.
A made champion, she’s not built like bumgardner, is bumgardner.
Actually had she worked hard, she got her ass handed to her and she came back and she took opportunities and got herself back in a position to where she took her opportunity and now she’s a world champion.
That’S amazing, [ __, ] um, you guys.
I just have to take a minute break all right y’all, so I’m back all right, so we’re gon na leave that and we’re going to get into Marshall versus Shields.
Okay, so this is the fight everybody was talking about.
This is the fight that they were saying.
Marshall was going not Clarissa Shields out, how’d that work out for y’all how’d y’all, how y’all feel about what happened? Okay once again strategy strategy, two strategic women, professional women in the fight; okay, so um, my my uh, my my guy women’s Boxing Channel, joins in uh KT fights by windmilling and then uh and in and out, and she ain’t done so bad.
So I don’t know what you mean by that um I mean Styles May fight yeah, so they put it Katie Taylor point point fight, she’ll point the [ __ ] out of you: okay, she’s, not hurting nobody; she’s, not dropping nobody; she’s up and gone Road Runner.
Mimi everyone’s trying to chase her, no one has cut IE Taylor off or down.
No one has roughed her up since Delphine person and if y’all watch Delphine for soon you can refine that and crack the code, but no one’s doing that.
Everyone thinks that they can outrun the Road Runner Kai, the coyote ain’t done it.
How you think you gon na outrun, the Road Runner, doesn’t work that way you got ta meet her where she’s going you’ve got to hurt her, where she’s at and no one’s thinking about how to do that, how to set that up right so she’s.
She will always come out and she will always Escape right, um, Tom and Jerry, like how do you do you Tom, never caught Jerry right, you would you want to always chase a mouse right.
Uh mouse got all these different ways to to get away from you.
You got ta trap a mouse, but that’s real strategy, and none of these guys in these ladies corners got that IQ, except for Alicia people them Alicia people them now.
That’S a team.
Whoever put that strategy together, mwah Bellissimo yeah I’ll pay for that I’ll pay.
I’Ll pay uh 15 of my purse – for that it’s worth it right, but you ain’t gon na come like the these, these guys in the corner.
They simple, they don’t nothing.
They don’t know nothing about boxing right.
They don’t understand what two minutes.
What you got to do in two minutes to win a fight? They don’t understand how many rounds you have to win biting two minutes in order to win a fight.
They don’t understand how to affect an opponent with only two minutes which it is possible, but they’re doing everything based on the three minute cookie cutter outline, which is why a lot of these women are looking slow and losing and getting tired, um uh women’s boxes said Kt and hamadu fight the same style is what I’m saying you may have a point there right, but Hama douche doesn’t move as much as Katie Taylor and Hama douche doesn’t have uh the um as good a footwork as Katie Taylor, um women’s Boxing Channel, says, but Coach L got coach of the year last year, so so how many women’s boxers does Al Haymon? Have he got the one Michaela Meyer? Okay? He may have gotten the coach of the year.
I know coach Al coach Al used to be at my at my kitchen with Vernon Force.
I grew up watching coach Al Haymon coach that he used to come down to my gym right and – and we all you know – everybody’s – had a touch of uh coach, Al um, so that doesn’t mean he’s smart.
That doesn’t mean he has all the answers.
We need to stop putting all of these people on a pedestal.
You’Ve seen what he did.
He had Michaela Maya come out with that old, dusty ass style that she does all the time and she got embarrassed like she got beat people.
If you know boxing, you know Michaela Mike, it was embarrassing how she got how um bumgardner did her on Saturday.
She was reaching and missing.
We don’t do that out here.
This is professional.
We don’t do that.
Um Al Mitchell, yeah Al Mitchell, um Al Haymon Outlet yeah, it’s one of them, owls um about my father’s business.
What’S up Natalie coming in the building hey, I see you about my father’s business.
Thanks for showing up.
We talking about the big women’s match the Mega Match that just happened um over the weekend, I’m about to wrap up soon, because my my my young man he’s got a big basketball game that he’s playing tonight.
So I’m gon na wrap up soon.
You guys, but thanks for showing up about my father’s business um, let’s, let’s take it to the women’s match: um uh Marshall versus uh Shields.
Now, in this fight, I’m gon na say this: I’m just gon na keep it really simple here, because um what I saw in this match round one um Clarissa Shields, who is a great strategist, who has great strategies as well, came out the blocks she came out.
The block she ran her hand.
She was given angles.
She was landing on Marshall and Marshall.
All Marshall was trying to do, was control her get her to wear or get to where she can uh hang with Clarissa in those first couple rounds.
Okay, because Marshall got that kind of awkward noodly style out there noodly and she was doing all of that right, Clarissa Shields ate up those rounds showed that she was running her hands.
She showed that she was um and uh Landing.
She showed that she was the aggressor, she had the uh General ship.
She took all she took the the beginning, okay, and so what Marshall was trying to do was pin her down and now land those hard shots that she said she was going to do.
I’M Gon na Hurt yeah, I’m Gon na Hurt yeah all right.
So Clarissa was like all right.
You gon na hurt me, but guess what imma take these damn rounds? Okay, you’re gon na hurt me, but that don’t mean you’re not going.
I I ain’t gon na.
Take these rounds, so she got that out the way and after four rounds in she said all right: [, __, ], let’s fight and that’s what happened so now in them continuing Okay, Marshall was able to now do that thing that Tyson Fury does and what a Lot of simpletons, don’t understand out here, is number one: Tyson Fury is a heavyweight heavyweights fight completely different from the lower weight classes.
Don’T you all notice that heavyweights move slower heavy weight.
Three minutes is for heavy weights.
Okay, they take their time right.
So in coming.
In and trying to show Savannah Marshall, the same type of style that Tyson Fury fights was not very smart.
That’S a heavyweight fighter style! That’S number one number two she’s fighting uh Shields and trying to use her weight again Shields like how Tyson Fury used his weight against Wilder.
But the difference is it’s two minutes you’re, not thinking it’s two minutes she gon na recover in a minute and the time you take impressing your body on her, you give it your sacrificing opportunities to land shots and score.
It’S two minutes.
This is women’s boxing.
You see what I’m saying like they’re putting men they’re, putting trainers and men in this industry in in this game that wasn’t never there before that.
Don’T understand what this thing means, and you got people out here talking about it and confidence commentating on [, __, ] that they don’t understand.
You can’t play that game with two minutes.
She’S gon na go but she’s in shape.
You lean on her for one to two minutes.
You sacrificing your opportunities to score she’s scoring she’s turning you around.
She looks like the busier one, because all you want to do is put your weight on her and land the odd one or two shots that doesn’t look good in two minutes.
Maybe if you have three minutes and you were able to push her around and do all that [ __ ] – that Tyson Fury did to Wild uh wild Wilder, then it would look like something.
But for two minutes you just she just looked like she was doing this the whole time and then in her doing that and Clarissa Shields running her hands.
It looked like she was getting knocked around in there General ship, okay, she wasn’t posting Clarissa Shields.
She wasn’t grabbing spinning chucking her.
She wasn’t doing, none of that and that’s what she should have did.
She was clearly the bigger fighter.
Clarissa Shields couldn’t manage and wrestle her.
She should have tied her up from the beginning walked her back chucked her in the ropes, and this is another thing that I noticed that I saw she was fighting Clarissa Shields off the ropes, and the commentator was saying: oh if Clarissa Shields was in the fight, Is because her back was on the ropes dummy, let me tell you something: let me tell you how women fight okay, we don’t have upper body strength, we don’t have bang, so you know I’m gon na get I’m gon na.
Let the secret out right now.
We have legs ass and hips, and what we do is we bounce off the ropes and use the momentum from our body to follow through with the shots we use the ropes we use the ropes bounce off, come back bounce off, come back, that’s how sugar sugar! I love I, I love the ropes right.
I don’t have to generate no power from the ground.
Now, I’m using the ropes to propel my body weight forward into the shot, women fight differently than males a couple male Fighters.
I seen do that and I think I suppose that’s where we got it from I know.
Pernell Whitaker was one that did what used to do it good great used to love to see him y’all.
Don’T remember sometimes y’all used to see him hold on to the ropes and boom.
That’S where we get that [ __ ] from that’s, that’s what we use right so Clarissa Shields was using the momentum.
All 165 pounds bouncing off the ropes and coming through bouncing off the ropes and coming through okay, because she knew Marshall was strong.
The oh, the best thing she could do is hurl her body at marshall, which is what she was doing when she was fighting off.
The ropes which, when she was using the ropes now I saw the adjustment that Marshall made.
Oh, we got some guys coming Cedric Sports training.
What up sugar preach? I agree with you: a hundred percent.
Listen thanks for tuning in steady! Thank you.
Oh y’all got me feeling all warm and fuzzy and special inside.
Thank you, seti um, and I’m glad that you, you agree with me because um, like you were General out here we got a couple Generals in the room.
You know, and – and I want you – you trained – you trained one of the best uh female Fighters out here now you know Mary Spencer, you know, and and in doing that, like I I’m I’m sure you understand that you know training for these two minutes: training, women And and understanding our Dynamic is it’s it’s completely different, it’s it’s! It’S not the same as male boxing and and that’s what I loved about this Mega Match this Mega fight this Mega card, because it highlighted that it, you just needed to understand that you needed someone to break it down, which that’s what sugar is doing to y’all For y’all tonight really breaking it down because I’ve been watching ever since then I had to wait my turn, but you know I’m watching all these other um fighting, uh women, all of a sudden everybody are, is breaking down women’s boxing and everyone’s interested in women’s boxing.
Where y’all asses was that, when you really needed to learn about this uh when when women were are when all the real women fights was out here, all of a sudden, all of a sudden, you got a show and then, on your show, you ain’t saying none! You ain’t doing nothing but wasting people time, but if y’all y’all want to debate with sugar, like you know, I’m I’m ready.
You could come on my show and I’ma come on your show right because y’all can’t tell you can’t tell me nothing foreign right so um.
What I’m saying about this? You know the Marshall fight was Marshall, had a com, the the the she had, the worst game plan or strategy that she could have ever had for fighting Clarissa Shields.
She had, she did have all the advantages she did.
She had the hype, she had the range she had the size, she had the power she had enough to be Champion.
She had enough to beat Clarissa Shields, but also again the mind and the Heart.
I don’t think she really believed that she was the champion.
I really don’t think she believed that she was the one to have that belt and you could see how she she was even in the in the dressing room and everything before the fight.
She was just like okay and let the chips fall where it may.
She wasn’t like Clarissa, where Clarissa was, you could see it in Clarissa right, Clarissa didn’t really did not know what she was gon na do, but she knew she was gon na win right.
She said: oh you got, power of Clarissa knew she was going to get beat up, Clarissa knew she was going to get hurt and she did Savannah Marshall beat on Clarissa.
There were moments in that fight where she touched Clarissa body and Clarissa said.
Oh, that’s you.
I seen it and I enjoyed it.
Why? Because not because Clarissa got hurt with a shot.
I enjoyed it because had to extend herself and that’s what this is about.
You can’t be Queen sitting on the throne comfortable, that Throne ain’t comfortable, that seat being Champion ain’t supposed to be comfortable, that’s the most uncomfortable seat.
Anybody could sit in right and I just kind of felt she was too comfortable.
So Savannah Marshall did her job where she, I think she helped Clarissa, understand that there are people out here that will hurt her right because she hadn’t been dropped since Hannah Gabrielle dropped her.
She hadn’t been hurt since that, so you know um.
Looking at a couple images of her after because I knew I’ve had a couple rough fights too, you know I’ve been hit hard too um, so we I mean we’re not seeing Clarissa Shields really after the fight, but I know both of her eyes are probably swole
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