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EPISODE: Episode 1
Tonight on “The Sugar Show,” Natalie Brown dives deep into the storm brewing in Women’s Boxing. The talk of the town is the undisputed lightweight champion, Alicia Baumgardner, and the recent revelations about her alleged use of banned substances. What does this mean for her legacy? And how does this news shape the landscape of women’s boxing?
But this isn’t the first time PED (Performance Enhancing Drugs) use has cast a shadow over the sport. We’ll journey back in time, reviewing past instances of banned substance controversies in Women’s Boxing. From the athletes’ perspectives to the repercussions they faced, we’ll tackle it all.
Join the conversation and get ready for an informative and thought-provoking episode that sheds light on one of the sport’s most contentious issues.
Transcribed
Stairs [, Music, ], hey y’all, hey it’s your sugar here yeah! So you know it’s a little bit past the time, but it’s always 7.
30.
On a Wednesday night, you and me Natalie sugar brown.
We get together.
We talk about women’s boxing.
Okay, we talk about.
What’S going on, what’s good, you know keeping it keeping it very current and very real about what’s happening in the world of women’s boxing, because I guess it’s sort of a thing now, but it was always a thing for those of us who um have fought and Lived a life of a of a woman, uh boxer and fighter for some many years, so I am Natalie sugar brown, and this is my platform where we do so.
I’M a woman, pugilist yes been there done that.
I know the story and um I’m here to break a lot of these things down because, as we want to talk about with tonight’s topic, You Don’t See was in between the lines and in between the words that these people is telling you, and I want everybody To have a fair chance in this industry to behave badly, stop um, yeah y’all tonight’s show is about um, I mean it’s it.
The title is busted, and I mean this is hot off the press.
Yes, yes, I then came out they.
The censorship didn’t work and it’s about to get real real.
You know I’m not gon na hype, you, but we want to talk some talk tonight because um there, you know my guys titled it or says that it’s a controversy, but this is not a controversy.
You know um something that’s controversial is you know like there’s a prolonged public dispute or debate about the topic um, where you know opinions and point of views.
You know the gray part of it is the thing that we fuss about, but you know being in.
Let Me Tell let me take the smart glasses off being in um women’s boxing being in any per uh professional sport right.
We should understand that there is just a quality and a boundary that we must all remain in to keep it fair right to keep it.
You know to to to to make to make it um.
You know to to make it where everyone has a Fighting Chance.
You know, and I believe in that 100.
Okay, so tonight’s topic, it’s not a controversy um and it’s not the bumgardner controversy.
It’S the bumgardner busted mint yeah, her ass got busted um and there’s no mistake in when you, when you come up that you ride you’re riding around dirty okay.
So let’s talk this talk about it already wait a minute! Look who chimed in look who chimed in women’s Boxing Channel says this will be interesting, howdy Duty.
How did doody uh women’s Boxing Channel? You haven’t been around my way in in a while good to see you, though, I’m glad that you chiming in I know that it’s in the wee hours of the morning, um or late night in the dark.
How was the other night um? So you you made time to chime in with sugar tonight, and I appreciate that um our host um welcomes WBC uh women’s Boxing Channel and um women’s Boxing Channel comes in that says: hey Mike lots to get through tonight, fella and women’s Boxing Channel.
You know I’ve seen like okay.
Sugar is not out here in cyberspace, except for Wednesdays, with y’all and the odd times that my fellow people on the on the talking fight channel uh.
Let sugar come over and play right um.
But you know that this I saw women’s Boxing Channel tweet a couple weeks ago after um one of my shows where I came out and said it because y’all know sugar, don’t sugarcoat nothing.
I say I say what it is and I keep it real because right ain’t, nobody, ain’t, nobody um, I’m nobody’s puppet right, I’m telling you guys what it is, and I say what I say and that’s what I said and it ain’t an opinion right.
These are facts that we’re going off of, and I said what I said so I did come out and I said um when I saw the picture of Bumgarner and after her win, I said she looked.
She looking like she’s looking like she didn’t started, taking them.
Flintstone vitamins, you know what I’m saying Flintstones and them supplements you know.
I said it.
I came out and said it um, because this is something that is rampant in women’s boxing, because they they don’t check right.
We do the P test.
We you pee on the stick.
Sometimes sometimes you you don’t even that one doesn’t even Pat um matter, because I’ve known a fellow female fighters who have fought pregnant yeah, they they P, they pregnancy test, came back positive, but the show must go on and they still fought right.
So it’s just a matter of what the commission, you know what the commission will allow right and so um.
I said I mentioned that and uh well, women’s Boxing Channel came out on the Twitter and said that and mentioned sugar show because everybody got high behind everybody.
Wan na hide behind sugar right when, when, when, when words that need that everybody’s, maybe thinking need to be said, they all look at Sugar because you know sugar, ain’t scared, just say it right.
So I came out and said it, and they I mean it, looked like they were trying to come in and blast women’s Boxing Channel on the Twitter about what sugar said you know and, and women’s Boxing Channel seems to have seems to agree with um.
You know that Alicia was looking real, real roydy.
You know for this fight and it’s not that I was picking on her particularly I just saw you know when you see something and you’re like here.
We go, you know, I I did it the I did it clean, okay and I’m telling y’all.
This is hard, it’s hard doing the work, and then you and and what you see when you look at a fighter and you see to work on a fighter just know that that wasn’t easy all right.
It wasn’t in a pill that is it’s hard.
It’S getting up, it’s discipline.
It’S you know, recovery, it’s it’s! It’S! It’S! It’S! It’S going through the pain! It’S working through the pain, it’s working through the fatigue.
It’S working through.
You know the it’s it’s working through the actual.
What’S around you and and all after that is your mind and your heart is the thing: that’s that’s keeping you going because it hurts.
It really does um and and I’ve given birth right and what I’m saying is it’s not something that is inflicting pain on you? It’S you in your mind when you, when you train in in boxing and you you’re at that level, it’s you and your mind going beyond what you could even imagine that you could do right and making yourself go there, extending yourself right, because you are preparing to Extend yourself when you get in that ring anyway, we go back to what you know.
Sugar is going in um, women’s Boxing Channel says bum G had this psyche.
Law had physique long time makes me think this ain’t, the first dosage, so Terry Harper KO, which could have killed her um, but the ref being so quick could lead to litigation with the right lawyers.
Well, I’ll tell you this uh women’s Boxing Channel about Terry Harper.
It looks like her ass may be playing the same or may have been playing the same game too right, because I don’t know how you can go from fighting 130 132 pounds to blowing up to full-fledged middleweight and, looking like you, never skipped a me a Beat.
You know I’m saying it wasn’t hard.
When you look at Natasha Jones Jonas um, she looks like she’s carrying extra weight right.
You look at Terry Harper, Terry Harper done filled out right.
She looks like that was what she was supposed to be the whole time right.
So a lot of these broads are playing this game right because nobody cared right and I’m speaking about this – because I also – and I I’m also on these Fanboys and fan girls necks out here – why? Because these these mofos out here are cheating they ass off.
They taking these freaking performance enhancement drugs.
These out here, are popping the pills and rubbing whatever it is right and just because they look sexy and just because they may look a certain part right when some when they fight somebody who did their work and did it.
The right way and showed up to give a fair fight and they they beat that person.
Oh they’re bums.
Oh, oh right, y’all yeah.
I said it yeah right because no one’s watching us, we sign all night our lives on that line.
We Trust that you gon na come in and you’re going to do right by us because we doing right by you, I train hard.
So I can give you all so I can give you a good fight.
You train hard, so you give me a good fight.
The hell you taking uh steroids for to hurt me now now you want to hurt now you using drugs, so you can hurt me, you know what I’m saying right, so I think like when they find out that these these people, these broads especially, are doing this.
They there needs to be some kind of you know suspension or some like that right, because at least at least we can have some kind of accountability.
Now women’s Boxing Channel says Dan Raphael’s released official ped performance enhancement, drug plus document.
Tonight, it’s condemning it’s condemning all right.
Women’S Boxing Channel also says wonder if Alicia says it was because she Strokes her hamster that gives her adverse results.
Well, you know uh Hannah and them they.
I mean these pets just need they need the rub.
I guess right.
The pets just need the rub anyway.
Lovely assistant.
Are you there? Can you give me my first image? Please hey hey now this is, I mean it’s hot off the press.
It came out today right and you know I got other when I got other females.
Other women in boxing I mean they play the game, so they low-key, you know talking to sugar and saying yo, sug, guess what right? Because I was you know I was doing.
I was out there in the country.
I would you know uh doing my little country girl thing today and it came in that they can I’m getting calls to sug.
You heard no, I ain’t here I’m on here then I’m out here, um breathing the fresh air and you know in the countryside.
They don’t got that girl who Alicia Alicia you’re talking about the pride of Michigan, they starting to say yeah.
They started calling her that the parietum I’m like pride of Michigan, hey Clarissa ain’t Detroit in Michigan, you talking about Detroit Michigan that Detroit the whole state Michigan.
They started calling her to pry to Michigan and Clarissa and Clarissa.
You know that’s a flint girl, the pride of Flynn, I’m the Flint Flint is in Michigan, so you’re talking about the whole thing.
She had a pride of the whole state and and Carissa only the pride of a certain section, wow like she jumped.
She became huge this one here, so um yeah, you see Alicia bombard tests positive for master alone Master alone.
This is funny too, because, like the names of these of of these drugs, you know I’m I’m just looking at my um looking at my notes Here, um so um Master alone is actually it’s.
You know, men take it.
It’S made specifically for men who you know um, I’m hearing that for men that need more sexual potency uh for um, more muscle mass for you know it it it it’s a test on testosterone, enhancement, um type of thing.
You know so she’s she’s taking this.
Knowing that it’s gon na make her, you know it’s it’s going to bring out the man in her.
Yes, I’m laughing, you know what I’m saying, because it’s like you didn’t need it.
If you believed in yourself, you didn’t need it Alicia, you and the thing about it too.
Is you know we talk to talk me and my me and my female Fighters that we talk to talk out here and we were like you know, she’s, like she’s, really high.
She she don’t really got high on herself right.
I ain’t did this and I’m I’m a better fighter, I’m I’m a better fighter and I’m a different type of woman.
Hell yeah you a different type of woman.
You want steroids right, you know, you know what you’re doing you know what you do.
You know you taking them Flintstones, so you talking that because you know you ain’t going to be tested right.
It ain’t that you batter so um women’s Boxing Channel comes in and says um, oh souls for caps LOL.
I’M not sure what you mean women’s Boxing Channel there about that, but um you know, Mr Mr alone, so you know it’s for it’s.
It’S specifically given to men: okay, um! They it’s also layered with other uh anabolic steroids.
It’S you know like you taking this.
Somebody in her Camp know what they doing.
So you know she doesn’t got with people that you know they.
They know they know what this thing is right.
It’S not like she’s she’s, fooling around so um.
This one doesn’t require injections.
This one is taken orally.
So she’s not you know poking herself up.
You know she’s drinking it in the smoothie right, and I guess I I mean I’ve said it before they’re coming out with with better and better drugs right and if you can afford the drugs.
You know you get better drugs, so women’s Boxing Channel came out and said wonder if she was on it when she fought Terry Harper.
Well, that was when she wasn’t making no money.
You know what I mean.
So if she was on anything um, it wasn’t going to be.
It wasn’t going to be on anything like this right, because you know this ain’t, what you get at the at the local um nutrition store, you know, and and this they don’t really sell this in the corner.
Like you got to find somebody that knows somebody that can get this right and that costs money, so she got the bread.
Now she got bread now she can afford to do it, but when I saw it – and I always say you know I can – I can see it because it’s been prevalent in my industry – I could just tell when a is on roids right.
You know it’s a it’s.
It’S uh, something that um that you know it’s something that enhances your testosterone, the male part of you, so the male part of you, like male Jaws, are more pronounced.
You know you’re going to see that male you’re going to see that Ridge line come in like you’re going the demand gon na start coming out of you right.
You want to get a little bit more brolic.
You’Re gon na have some more muscles right, so um that, but it doesn’t, it doesn’t make you a better fighter, and that was always what evened out the playing field but girl.
If you on the roids and you got the promoter in your pocket, what are you doing like now? You, I can’t even lovely assistant, what’s the next image? What’S the next thing, all right, so this is how she looked before this is not a little girl picture.
This is how this is how the broad looked before right you see her face is all narrow and stuff.
You see she looking real.
You know she’s, just looking real shallow in her muscular Nest right, it’s not that she, beef, she’s, beefed up she’s, always been athletic.
She always had an athletic look to her right where we were talking.
We I’ve mentioned before in my previous um in my previous episodes, where you know there are different types of builds.
Body builds where you know abroad is cutting down and she she’s cutting down, but she’s still thick.
So you know when she’s not on weight.
She’S like thick thick bro, you know like she moving some weight right and then there’s some of us.
I should I showed you a picture of Shug when she was in uh.
You know when I was in my my top weight, very chiseled, very athletic body.
You know a word the word.
You could see the work on me right, so you can see the work on her right here, but you can see she didn’t have much muscle mass, which is why she took this Marcela roll alone.
This steroid right because in order to be strong, you need muscles in order to be explosive.
You need muscles right.
The muscles is the power right and that’s why you know I’m comp me.
I speak for myself.
I am compact, so either you’re Compact and tightly strong right, where I’m I’m one of those ranging rangy people.
Where you know my background, I’m Jamaican my family’s from the Caribbean.
I mean I got a whole bunch of other stuff too, but we like the the blood, is Caribbean blood uh as a matter of fact, native, Caribbean, Caribbean blood right, so our body type, my body type, is much more much like you see how those track and Field Jamaican girls are like like that right and you walk around.
You walk around go to my country, or you know my the where my ancestors come from and most of you’ll see that in most of us, okay and most of the Caribbean right um.
So that’s I’m blessed with those genetics right.
Unfortunately she wasn’t blessed so that way, so I was skinny but very powerful or um.
I was lean but very very powerful, she’s lean, but she couldn’t keep Fighters like leonidarto off of her.
You know um and uh.
Christina Leonardo is what is a gatekeeper, arguably she’s, not even she’s at that level.
If you trying to fight at that level, then you’re going to be dealing with you got to deal with Christina leonidarto she’s she’s, like a she’s like the Roberto Roberto Duran of of us women right, she gets in there and she’s roughing she’s rough and she’s she’s.
Just cholerant in there and you got to you, got to have all the things to keep to absorb what she’s coming to and keep her off of you right.
So she didn’t have it the first time they fought, and I think that’s why her ass went to the steroids right, because she knew that she knew that and had the nerve to spin back right.
So um, oh, looks look what I got.
Some messages come in in so um, then hey Evan, thanks for chiming in boo boo, thank you.
Um Evan Busey comes in and says um.
She said she never heard or taken the drug.
Do you think it’s possible? She took it by accident due to diet or something along those lines.
Evan Evan.
Let me tell you something about grown ass people.
They lie what the hell she got.
She got nine belts, you think this broad is going to say yeah.
I took it.
She gon na have to get back them.
Damn nine belts she wanted to pay them people their money.
She’S gon na have to give that she want all everything, because you remember she’s a celebrity she’s, a celebrity uh woman boxer now she’s, not just a woman, boxer she’s, a celebrity women boxer now right so she’s not going to sit up there and say yeah.
I did it he’s going to say what I’ve never heard while she’s sipping on it.
I don’t believe she got to say I don’t I don’t, because it’s it’s um What She’s accused of you got to search and find that it doesn’t accidentally pop up nowhere around you.
You got to look for it right and in order for that to come be around you, you got to ask for it.
You got to know it’s there.
So no, I don’t believe anything.
I don’t believe in any of that, but I do understand that I understand what she’s doing now, because she has to she has to do this now: right, she’s she’s in a pickle, um yeah and I’m laughing at I’m laughing.
I am because it’s too many people out here working hard and doing it the right way for Chrome bumps to cheat and get it all.
It’S not fair um, so women Boxing Channel comes in that says no LOL, so I mean even women’s boxing channel is with me on this and you know women’s Boxing Channel and me we don’t.
We don’t get along most of the time right.
We have a good time all the time I would say, because even when, even when women’s Boston Channel be cussing me out and fussing at me, I still be having fun, but you know um yeah.
We we can all, Concur and agree that no.
This is not an accident uh, Evan broussey comes in and says um seems possible to me due to the fact that some trainers tell what their Fighters some trainers tell their fighters to take or eat it.
Ain’T like that in this Rodeo Show boo-boo no, not um.
As a matter of fact, look who her trainer is because everybody in the circle is in trouble for this everybody affiliated with this undefined.
I’M sorry with this this broad right here over this drug she taking them down now that now they got boo-boo now they got boo-boo on them this this boo-boo they end this with her and they got it on them um.
So no right and it’s not a matter of oh you told me to take it.
You told me to take it nah, you bad you’re, bad out here.
So you need to know what you’re doing right.
You sign your name on the dotted line.
Only only big.
Only women that wear the big girl, panties fight for a living and get paid for it right.
You, you win this.
You win the the Sea of sharks with us right and it ain’t many sharks in the sea right now.
Right he’s a couple sharks right! So, no no um, it’s not that type of rodeo show she was looking for this and she thought because I saw I saw and you could see when she you could see when she started taking this look at her look at her progression.
This is her when she first started.
Okay, look at all her picture when she started doing this.
Look at all her pictures as she progressed from this, and you can see that in a lot of other women Fighters right.
So I can always say you know, look at look look at the broad right women’s boxing.
It we’re different we’re not men’s boxing, because there’s men out here taking the the P pads, the Peds, the performance enhancement, drugs right, but we’re we’re in a place where we don’t need it.
We don’t need it.
You don’t need steroids to behave badly.
You don’t need it, so why do it? Um women’s Boxing Channel comes out and says incredible how only boxers accidentally get contaminated with bodybuilding drugs and never anyone else from their food lol.
Listen women’s Boxing Channel! Listen right! You know what I mean you’re a little, but I like it.
I like it right yeah.
How do you accidentally badass right? You do you’re doing a sport where you walking around rough and tough and puffing around, but you accidentally doing doing like this.
No, no! It doesn’t work like that.
It doesn’t work like that: okay, um and then it’s these are drugs that it’s like liquid courage right, because if you believed in yourself – and if you knew what you you, if you do what you should be doing, you should still have the same same result.
You really should right.
She didn’t need this if she was if she was bad and she was a boxer and she was a fighter.
She wouldn’t need this right, because I’ve beat on steroids.
I beat him up it, it don’t matter to me.
I know how to fight I’ve been taught and which you hitting me with.
I ain’t feeling, because I’ve extended myself in preparation for you right.
I did it the right way.
I did it the clean way for you right.
So you got you got me unadulterated.
It’S 100 pure sugar, Behaving Badly right.
So this liquid coverage right.
So now you know she faces somebody, that’s on the same Flintstone vitamins and they just a little bit rougher and tougher and bigger and stronger you’re, going to see the same Alicia Bumgarner, who got her ass, whooped from pole, pillar to pole, by Christina, Linda and Linda Dartu, who did it clean all the all the every times? Okay, um women’s Boxing Channel, says Evan so when she feels different and watches her body change dramatically, she’s, so stupid um as not to be suspicious nah mate, you’re, clutching it you’re clutching at straws.
I think well, you know I think Evan is giving her like everybody else is giving her the benefit of the doubt right, because, oh I’m, I’m I’m this, I’m a dog walk right.
All that, but now I didn’t know right.
That’S where I’m that’s, where I’m at with it.
You talk so tough, but now I didn’t know, I don’t know what that is.
Oh, my gosh, I’m a damsel in distress.
Help me I didn’t know somebody knew and it came out in your pee baby.
So guess what give me put them belts on the table? You you not! That girl, you not that gal you’re not that gal unless you’re on the steroids, um big Justin, James, hey, big Justin, James, hey thanks for chiming in comes in and says Linda dartsu did say: Alicia was the hardest Punchy female.
She ever felt.
Mccalla did too Leonardo said in her first fight.
Alicia’S punch is really hurt.
I mean, if you do, the work punch is hurt right, I’ve, never even a weak puncher that it catches.
You the hurts, but it’s like.
So you know and that’s and that’s that’s why I don’t understand with the whole, if you’re taking steroids, to punch harder, that’s only a fraction of what you need to do in that in that ring fighting against somebody right, because I thought broads, where they’re they’re leaking And blood and they walk into me, like friggin uh, like a zombie Walking Dead and I’m giving them all, I got and they’re taking it right them European Fighters, especially them them big European girl fighters, the Mexican broads that I’ve ever they they take a licking and Keep on ticking right, there’s some there’s some broads like American bras, you fight them and they know what pain feel like they’ll back they’ll back the hell off of you right and then you know if they get a little bit more if they get a good shot Or whatever their confidential build and they’ll start attacking again, but if they know what pain feel like there’s some there’s some fighting ass women that come from places that is like, so it the hurts so because they they they’ve been through some Okay.
So hard punches.
That’S that’s a given, or that I mean that’s, that’s just like you know if you’re tall or short, you know, if you punch hard or not it’s it’s just something that you have and if it’s a tool that you can use then use it now, if you Have knockout power, which I I do possess and I I did as a fighter possess where you can, you can shut the lights off on the on a person with with a bang right.
That’S something different right! That’S god-given! You can’t teach somebody how to knock somebody out how to knock somebody unconscious.
You can’t do that right.
It’S it’s a Divine gift.
I have to say right so um and Knockouts ain’t.
A TKO is not a knockout right.
Rsc referee stops constant, that’s not a knockout.
A knockout is when you putting a to sleep, I have done that several times to uh to men and women, not to say that I would take a man on and fighting but boy I’ve.
I said you know what I’m I’m gon na put the rent money on this month, but I’ma put it on here.
If it connect, possibility, you’re gon na go down and a lot of the times, they’ve gone down.
Okay, so you guys know how to use even the tools that you have um.
So I said that to say this: you know even just taking the steroids and stuff you still.
Boxing is not something.
That’S you know.
Steroid only gives you that liquid courage right it gives you that that that courage, that you don’t have within yourself right, because if you extend yourself and if you work hard and you put yourself through the pain and Punishment in prep in preparation for that battle, you Really don’t need it.
Um women’s Boxing Channel says Shields is defending her defending her hahaha wonder.
Why is Shields defending Alicia Bumgarner? Oh my gosh, then it must be in that Flint in that Detroit Water underwater.
They Detroit Michigan ain’t.
Never what is it Detroit? A never had clean water.
That’S why the um Clarissa putting the blue braids in her hair.
Let’S blame it on the water, then right.
Let’S, let’s reach, let’s, let’s really reach, because if Clarissa knows what’s good for her, she stayed that hell away from this.
She don’t want this getting on her right right.
You walking you walking, through with your nice little white suit on you’ve, done everything you needed to do.
Clarissa you, you got a white suit.
On only thing is you run your day? You run your mouth.
You’Ve done everything right, Clarissa Shields, don’t don’t let this girl get her on you because she she got she’s in some um Evan Boucher says how badly do you think this will affect her career? Well, I mean it just depends on how much money she got behind her.
To be honest, she’s, a celebrity right now, but right in in women’s boxing in our industry, um she’s tainted right, she’s, not real, um and and who she’ll fight now is.
Are people that it’s not going to affect her celebrity wise, but in female in women’s boxing she’ll fight people who are just in it for the money right, she’ll she’ll fight opponents? Now, because real people are not gon na really see she’s, her validity is Tainted.
Now you know what I’m saying her her: she ain’t that gal, no more um uh women’s Boxing Channel, says sugar.
You are so funny love your show and you won’t be coming right.
Like women Boxing Channel, you always come by and see me no more though I missed you didn’t they come for you on Twitter, though I seen that I said Edition, and and what now are they tweeting now? Is they tweeting? Are they tweeting now about this? Who was uh, who are those people that um came, came for you about this cheater lovely assistant change the picture? Let me show y’all look at this before lovely assistant.
Bring the uh bring the the updated picture.
Please that ain’t, the one look don’t do this to me before come on come on after damage, she doesn’t look like when Popeye.
You know this, that’s how old I am, and I used to love this when Popeye ate the damn spinach when Popeye squeezed the spinach out the cannon that went and he was like he beat Bluto ass.
That’S how she looked.
I knew that wasn’t that ain’t no hard work in certain crevices there that hard work, if even if you work hard, they not gon na come out like this and look at her cheating ass.
She knew she was on that stuff.
You see look at this down here compared to the picture previously right come on now you won’t get muscles in your jaw.
Unless you I mean stop, you know, that’s only if you do it for sport, you know, if you do it for fun, you don’t get muscles.
Let me stop, and this is the thing about y’all talking fight fellas.
In the background back in the studio, y’all don’t censor me when y’all when I say the things that y’all like and think is funny um, but yeah y’all see this y’all see this cheating ass.
So yes, I’m saying it I didn’t know.
Just like women’s Boxing Channel said you look in the mirror.
You look in the mirror, every every damn day she pretty.
If I’m you, I’m fine, I’m looking in the mirror at myself.
Everything! Thank God.
Thank you.
Thank you, for these looks God.
Thank you for making me the superstar that I am right if I was Alicia bumgardner right.
Thank you for making the world you know.
Thank you for making the world acknowledge me that I’m the best at what I do, because I’m the best cheating ass right.
She see herself popping out the seams right like like Popeye right.
Even if you didn’t know your wife’s gon na go to a doctor, I’m getting I’m getting.
My jawline is getting big.
Okay come on now, um Aries, zodiac boxing, hey hey! I mean people are coming through tonight.
It ain’t been a party in a long time, y’all it ain’t been a party in a long time, and I am enjoying this so Aries.
Zodiac boxing says: hey sugar, it’s been a while hmm and give me that.
Give me four sugars huh.
This is like that text hey Big Head and because I because I miss you and y’all, I like it – hey Aries, zodiac boxing, thanks for stopping in and chiming in and giving me four sugars giving me some sugar appreciate this women Boxing Channel comes in and says Shields defending bumgardner, yet she says she bounced Gabriel as soon as she sees her LOL double standards based on who’s made or not ridiculous.
I was getting it at Women’s Boxing Channel.
I was getting to that.
I was I I am getting to that right because this ain’t, the only one Rub-A-Dub well, she wasn’t she ain’t doing the rub.
She took she.
She took the one, the oral one right.
You know when you the oral and the rub.
I mean it all sounds fun, but it’s got to be in the rules, you, you know the oral and the rubbing.
That’S that if you doing that on and doing it another way you got to be doing something else.
You can’t do that in women’s boxing in boxing in general.
Stop cheating stop taking these these, this liquid coverage, y’all supposed to be bad, cheating out here, um and then Clarissa defending who girl she was coming for your crown.
They called her the pride of Michigan.
That’S the whole thing they didn’t say Pride or wherever the hell she was at because there’s a lot of cities in Michigan Detroit Flint Saginaw.
You know I’ve been through there a couple you know through through a couple places.
They said the whole Michigan Claret Rissa T-Rex squat, so she would come in for your your crown, so you got ta chill Clarissa.
If you smart, should I um Evan Busey said I would never censor you, sugar and laughing.
Thank you Evan.
So you understand me.
You understand that I’m a woman who behaves badly.
I need it.
It’S me I got so don’t censor me right.
Love me appreciate it right.
I mean I love all of my guys on talking fight in the listen y’all.
Give me this show to to do what I do and give me the end and, and we working together on this platform, but come on now when sugar like come on.
Let’S sugar be sugar.
If you know what I mean um, thank you Evan, so Aries zodiac boxing comes in to say you never had to cheat with that gorgeous body, sugar, [, Laughter, ], listen! Thank you! Aries zodiac boxing um and you know that’s the thing too about sugar.
I never even thought of it.
I didn’t it was so tough, it was tough.
It would it’s like if I can’t do this.
If I need to take something in my body to to get to this level and do this, I shouldn’t be doing this right.
All my fights my good days at the office and my bad days right and you know, there’s there’s a lot of variables on why we perform the way we perform right.
But I can always say I gave it 100 percent in my good days and my bad days and that’s why that’s? Why that’s the thing about women’s boxing? That’S how you end up liking the broad so much that you’ll buy a ticket.
You know what I’m saying so when come around and tell me talking about you did nothing in your career.
What you did what you’ve done? You, don’t you, don’t know a fraction of hair of what I’ve done to be sugar for people all the way over in Iceland, New Zealand to know whose sugar is right to people who, over in Italy, know who sugar is you understand what I’m saying it’s it’s.
I I didn’t have to be a celebrity to be who I am I’m a fighter right and when people see sugar, when I walk into the building, when I walk into the stadium in Auditorium, they know she come to fight and that’s all I needed to be Not a celebrity, but here go your celebrity right here right and there’s more celebrities too right that y’all put in oh she’s the best that ever did it the best that ever cheated right didn’t give people a chance.
Um women’s Boxing Channel, says uh I’ll save you! Olives, I’ll save you, olives and that’s.
I know where that’s coming from that’s from the Popeye, so women’s Boxing Channel you old, like me, though, that used to be my jam.
You heard right like Popeye in the spinach, and here I am as a as a little girl like Mom grandma Grandma.
Can you get the spinach in the can? When I looked in that can and saw the damn spinach I was like hahaha [, Music ].
They were like yo ass gon na eat.
It too, you asked for it.
You’Re gon na eat it foreign.
You know right, but then you just realize you know when the Spanish really that Papa ate it was the fact that he would find some for something he loved fight for something that he wanted, and if it was olive oil, then it was olive oil right because Bluto would bully him and do all the things and and and drag him and do a whole bunch of stuff to him, but when it came to something he loved right and that’s what it was.
That’S what it is for a lot of us women, women Fighters right, we’re doing it because we love it, we’re not doing it the the old school, where I’m coming from our generation that paved the way.
We did it because we love it.
It’S a part of us, it’s a part of us right.
We did things that I I identify.
I am my sisters, we shaved our heads, so people would look at us and say: oh she mean business she’s, a she’s doing this, so you can see bring in the attention she’s a fighter and nothing else because she loved this right.
We got in there.
We fought exhibition matches, we did oh, we fought in the backyard we fought, you know we, we did it all just to say and just to have a chance to fight, and now you got broads like this like this right that get what we fought for, that.
We wouldn’t the chances you, we got Jane couch that flew over here right because it was illegal where she was at to get a chance to do what she did and Jane ain’t.
Take no drugs or steroids, or nothing like that.
You get to you get to the seat that we, you know, we weren’t that you get to sit in the seat that we all were trying to get to and you cheating um, oh Melissa Smith, you’re talking about the historian Melissa Smith.
Melissa Smith is y’all.
Okay, I’m telling y’all like I feel so good.
I got Melissa Smith chiming in on the sugar Shelf.
Okay, Melissa Smith been there from the beginning like she was.
She is a woman boxing historian, okay she’s, one who collected our stories she’s, one who made sure that people know that we matter right who respected our blood and our sweat.
Who acknowledges our stories and she writes books and she speaks about us and I am so grateful to you, Melissa Smith and thank you for coming on.
The sugar show right.
She could just come on here and talk to talk right.
I got.
I got this woman a prestigious person in women’s boxing on my thread I feel so honored.
Thank you, Melissa for chiming.
In so, let’s see what you got to say: uh, Melissa Smith says it’s so disappointing to think that bombardner cheated when so many women worked so hard stay clean and get fights over such incredible odds.
And let me tell you when Melissa Smith says it, you know it done came down from God’s lips because she’s she’s it you want to ask you want to you, want a question answered about women’s boxing.
Find Melissa Smith.
You want to know when did happened, go check the Bible, the women’s boxing Bible wban, when I was a little young Scrappy, wet nose, Broad, that’s what I did and I hoped one day to be a part of what these ladies would say and speak and put Out there, on the on on their platforms that they had right and so grateful grateful that I was able to walk a journey, be a part of this movement.
Do it the right way, like Melissa Smith, says work hard, stay clean, get the fights I was able to get over all the incredible odds.
I did it and I did it pure unadulterated sugar.
Then you got these Aries.
Zodiac boxing comes in and says people don’t understand or appreciate those who paved the way for others, because they lack common sense and understanding.
They are casuals and not even worth the explanation.
I loved you from from day one thank you you’re, making me blush and you getting me emotional, Aries, zodiac boxing right and now I need you to hold me and where are you in cyberspace? You better send me a hug.
I I like the I like this sugar that you sent me in the heart, but now I need.
I need someone to hold me.
It’S not I’m not laughing about it.
You know it’s true people Joan and laugh about the you know when we say we paved the way because they think that you could.
You could just wake up one morning and say I wan na, especially as a woman and say I want to be a fighter.
It didn’t go like that.
It wasn’t like that the wasn’t killed at one time, Melissa, I’m sorry to keep.
You know, badgering your name on the show today, but hell you hear you damn it.
Melissa Smith is on the sugars done chimed in on the sugar show undefined I got Champs chiming in I got historians chiming in right.
This is legit.
It’S a party right.
It’S a real party, um, look at Google, anything Melissa, Smith, then wrote and said, and I’m not I’m not yanking your chain or anything like that.
Right of anybody at Teddy and Atlas or whatever you got Teddy, you got all them people.
You got all them men that you see on ESPN talking about women’s box.
They really need to when, whenever they have these big fights and these shows and about women Fighters and women boxing, they need people like Melissa Smith.
They need people like Sue Fox from wban.
They need people like Eddie montabolo.
You know they need people like you, I mean the the list goes on and and I’m I’m Gon na Make a list right.
They need these people talking about us right.
They they need.
Marianne with her pictures right, Marianne and butching them right, even then, I didn’t, even though they didn’t tried to get me beat with a girl.
I had to ruin her.
You know, but these are people that have stuck with us right and they stuck around and they know the story, and they still here and they may have benefited they may have been Fanboys and fangirls or whatever, but they stuck with us.
These people, who y’all are seeing now that women’s boxing is cute, it’s cool.
You know what I’m saying these Johnny come lately: people that ain’t it Chief.
If you talk to these people, you will fall in love with us, women who behave badly even more right, because the stories are there and the stories are real and the stories are authentic because we did it because we would in love we loved it.
It wasn’t about a check, fights happen because they happened, there were no negotiation and this and that and this fights happened because two bad broads came together to behave badly.
Melissa Smith says.
Thank you well.
Thank you Melissa.
Thank you.
Thank you mean that Melissa Smith also comes in and says.
The issue is also the in the USA.
Still so few women get opportunities to fight and therefore it is difficult to understand how women are still Paving the way for others, you’re right, Melissa, you’re, right um, because the opportunities aren’t here that it just could never stay here.
And you know this being the historian.
It was always over in Europe.
You remember back into Germany days where you know we go over there.
You know when nobody, winning if they flew into Germany right now, it’s the UK right.
It’S South America, like there were, there’s, never been a proper footing for women’s boxing here in the United States, and this is where all them other broads came to get the right to do that, because we were Behaving Badly and we would do it on a mountain By a fountain on at a bar in a backyard, we was doing it, so they came over because them American broads, are with the ships right, so U.
S America, the USA, plays a huge part in the history, and the fundamental in the foundation of women’s boxing is Just that we could just never get a break here when I was a fight when I was actively fighting, I would I none of my opportunities were in the United States really like I came here to lose.
You know in my own place when I went out to different countries when I went to camps when I did exhibitions when I did these places that when I was able to do it, that way is when I was able to get my due and my experiences And, and and and keep my journey valid and show the world what we can do as women who behave badly, who fight for a living show How We Do It show the art and the passion of us who do it? Well right because it wasn’t it’s not no celebrity thing like I said right, it’s if you like the broad or not.
Now we got celebrity Fighters right and before you know there were celebrity Fighters.
Uh Holly Holm really never left her backyard right, but she she’s the.
She became the best right how you never gon na leave your backyard but you’re the best in the world.
I guess because your people paid the bill.
You know those of us who signed that paper signed our lives on that paper and traveled and and and and bet on ourselves and fought people who wasn’t made to lose put ourselves out there we’re the ones that paved the way, we’re the ones who paved the Way, just as historical and groundbreaking as names like Christy, Martin, Laila Ali righty, celebrity brought.
Well, they wouldn’t be they’d, just be another bad another Behaving Badly if they didn’t have that broad in front of them to fight, and those broads are just important just as important right and that’s what I that’s why I have this platform.
I have this platform because it’s not about the celebrities and the stars that do this.
It’S about all of us right this, this cheating ass right here.
She she wouldn’t be – who she is if she didn’t have somebody in front of her, that she was fighting right.
That broad is important too, so we don’t throw nobody away in women’s boxing, maybe in mailboxing, but not in women’s boxing right.
I have to preach.
I don’t like all of y’all out there.
I don’t.
I don’t like all y’all broads, but y’all are my sisters and I love and respect that y’all.
Do this and y’all put 100 of yourselves into it because you represent me, I represent you, that’s how it works.
Um, let’s see Melissa Smith comes in and said my last piece was on Tiara Brown and how she cannot get a fight.
Oh Melissa right, you know about Tiara Brown and tiara Brown is in these broads weight class and they will not touch her call her coven.
They got damask and hazmat suit on.
They won’t touch her and she’s a rich she’s real out here, she’s real out here and no one will fight her right.
It was the same thing with sugar.
No, when nobody fights you, you don’t exist.
This is how this celebrity goes in women’s boxing.
We have to stop it.
If y’all are real fans right start getting to know us not just the ones that they throw in your face, starting to know who the local who’s, the woman in your state in your region who behaves the baddest or who is behaving badly dude.
That’S really all you got to look at who’s.
The baddest around here in my in in my area, right, like I said, Amanda and Heather, were fighting over Brooklyn who’s, the baddest in Brooklyn, and now look at him that right there is a success story.
That’S why I call Amanda Serrano the best female pound for pound right, because she start she walked the walk she’s.
She [ Music, ] she’s, one of us.
She trotted the journey and and she she brought she brought the that she was.
Then she was um out that was competing with had a heart.
She brought her with her and they fought on a huge platform and they both made mad money and that’s what this is about.
That’S what this is about right.
It’S not a me me thing: it’s not a me me thing in women’s boxing right, the more the merrier, the more women got behaved badly.
The merrier um Melissa Smith says Sue Fox is my queen yeah Sue Fox.
She held that together for a very long time.
Sue Fox is the creator of wban the women’s boxing archive Network and trust me: can you imagine, Lil Shug with the afro puffs run into a computer running like run into a computer after class or in the library to find out on her website what was going On in women’s boxing, can you imagine, when Lil shook ended up becoming USA boxing National Champion Golden Glove national champion and Sue put her on the damn website? Man can you imagine when I became the first when I fought Fuji and raika, and we were the first women to have a fight in the country of Japan and she put that on her.
Can you imagine right Sue Fox? Thank you.
Um Melissa Smith also says uh, Germany, Mexico Argentina.
So this is I’m telling you – and this is Melissa.
Smith is saying these are the places that we had to go to in order to fight.
We didn’t have promoters here, very rare.
In the USA, you had a promoter that would promote a woman boxing match a woman fighter.
Now they asking you who’s your promoter.
This is where we at you talking about bad timing, my goodness it’s it’s broads out here doing way less and they got promoters.
But let’s you know let Melissa, let Melissa tell the story.
Look at wban this, the real stories out there.
These and yes, I’m sorry, my guys are not um.
They not censoring me tonight these that all of a sudden they got boxing shows about women’s boxing, where your ass was at, where yo ass.
Where were you? Where were you you know about who us would you know? You know what you read that somebody else said you don’t even know you don’t even know wban, you don’t even know Melissa, you don’t even know Arnie Rosenthal, you don’t even know Eddie, you don’t know these people that supported us you’ll know Wanda Bruce.
You know what I’m saying you don’t know, so what the hell you got to say and these these people are on big platforms right, I’m telling y’all our industry women’s boxing.
We are us, we got we not.
This is the time we got to uplift each other.
We got ta speak each other’s name, we got ta talk about, we got ta tell the public who’s who SE voice is the whose voice is worth listening to right.
That’S why I keep it simple? I don’t put.
No, I don’t know, I keep it simple, because what I have to say is very valuable.
What I have to say is real what I have to say: don’t need no garnish or window dressing.
Just listen! Listen to the life of women fighters, women! Boxers! That’S enough! We’Ve done a lot.
We’Ve played our part.
We ain’t, cheating, lovely assistant, put the next image up.
Please um women’s Boxing Channel says most behave badly, some behave.
Sadly, here you go so you’re dropping bars on you dropping bars in the thread women’s Boxing Channel.
I like that one I think I may keep.
I think I may uh re retweet, that one right most behave badly.
Some behave, sadly, because you write about that now with this Alicia Bumgarner update.
This is what match room put mushroom put mushroom uh can today confirm that Alicia mum Garner returned an adverse analytical finding as part of a random anti-doping protocol instituted voluntarily for her bout with Christina leonardartu in Detroit on the 15th of July.
On 15 July, mushroom was first informed of this result.
On 12 August, the applicable regulatory authorities are also aware, and we defer to such bodies to further action and guidance as a full investigation isn’t conducted.
Matchroom is committed to promoting a clean and fair sport for all athletes and will assist Alicia and her team during this time, affording her the appropriate due process as we wait to receive more information.
Matchroom will not be making every any further comment.
So let me translate what this, what this mean right here, they saying listen.
We know that was dirty right.
The piss test came back dirty and it it was the one I I’m gon na tell y’all I’m gon na tell y’all what we know here at Matt’s room.
It was from the fight that she fought against Christina on July 15th and what we realized or what we found out on August 12 was she was.
She was riding dirty out here right.
She she took The Flintstones okay, so we gon na give her and her team some time to come up with some right, because what we do over here, what we do because they’re trying to get the off of them, I’m trying to rub this off of them.
They saying what’s up what we’re going to do is we want to keep because y’all know we promote clean and fair smart for all athletes, because we didn’t know neither okay and we will assist them in the time we will give them the time right they get.
They we won’t be there, we’re gon na answer the call which, on the what, so, what what happened, what happened, what had really happened was it in the smoothie? What had really happened, who gave it to her? Oh, she took it, did y’all, did y’all, pin her down and throw and and put it down her throat and and pinch her nose and put it down her.
No, she drank it by herself.
Oh, oh, it wasn’t sexual.
It wasn’t like no Jenny.
You know you know how Jenny got it.
No, okay! Well, wait! Wait! It wasn’t like how Hannah did it you talking about Shane either she ain’t rubbed down that she ain’t rubbed, nothing down! No! Oh! Oh this one she had to have she had to have voluntarily ingested it in her body.
Oh, oh, okay.
Well call us back when, when you come up with the with the story um and as we wait click and as we wait for more information uh, we won’t be saying else.
That’S what mushroom said with this lovely assistant.
Next, everybody got the on them.
Everybody down with her now this this you’re right here, okay, I’m gon na go back in the thread, because we want to talk about this one right here, Aries zodiac boxing says I remember watching you fight Ingrid Hayes and those commentators were so biased and clearly wanted Her to win, but I watched you stand your ground and win.
I definitely remember you did it Aries by zodiac box and you did it.
You did that now you got me crying on the show because it was a lot.
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