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EPISODE: Episode 1
The boxing ring is not just about fierce punches and triumphant victories; it’s also a space where careers can be as fleeting as they are brilliant. This episode of “The Sugar Show” with the dynamic Natalie Sugar Brown delves into the often untold stories of Women’s Boxing.
Join SUGAR as she explores the highs and lows faced by female boxers, the unpredictable nature of the sport, and the challenges that sometimes force champions into the shadows. Revisiting some of the iconic names from the past, we’ll find out “Where is She Now” and shed light on the myriad factors that impact a boxer’s career.
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[, Music, ], [, Music, ], hey y’all, hey it’s your sugar here and uh.
I mean we have our good days and not so good days.
I’Mma just be I’mma, Be 100 with y’all um sugar ain’t feeling too good today.
So I’m not sure how long the show will be, but let’s have a conversation: okay, I’m Natalie sugar, brown, uh woman pugilist been there done that, and this is my platform here.
Uh the Natalie sugar brown show every Wednesday at 7:30 p.
m.
uh eastern time.
I think you know eastern time um where we sit here and we talk about W the women’s boxing.
Okay, this is this, and this is that platform form where you know we’re not talking about.
Oh, the you know, you don’t have to be writing comput box and all of this stuff we’re really having conversation.
So ask the questions that you want want to ask say what you want to say right, but I mean it it.
It is what it is on.
The sugar platform right, so if you get clapped or you you get clapped back of course it’ll be respectfully, but you might get clapped.
That’S all I got to say say: oh okay, so we already got somebody chiming in R scarf one okay, um hi.
Did you see my article on WBA? I mentioned your show.
Oh thank you, r scar, one I had.
I have not um.
I have not to be honest, been out here in in the Cyber versed um, but I I have been meaning to look check up on W B and see that article that you were talking about because you did mention it.
So I’m glad that you made good on your promise to me um that you put that art.
You know that you put uh Suge suge’s platform in in that wonderful article you wrote now.
I I was just about to ask my host said, feel free to post a link to your article, and you know we keep it real on here.
I want.
I want the people that look at the show to be able to click a link right and find what you what you did and what you said.
You know what I’m saying and and I’ll be able to give back to you in that way.
You know share your goodness with those who are tuning in on the sugar platform, so please R scarf one post that link as a matter of fact, I’ll read that article right here on the show right, um, it’s information and it’s good stuff, uh! It’S it’s women’s boxing, which is what we here talking about, and the thing about R scarf one.
You guys.
I love journalists like this R scarf one.
You know it’s it’s taking us some time to know each other.
You know, and and and and I like arcar one came on here – kept it real uh and arar, one, it don’t sugarcoat it just like uh sugar, don’t sugarcoat it right.
So I’m looking forward to uh, seeing how rscar one put together this this article that um they wrote Ron can I use your government name on the platform Ron right, um, see see what uh and and put the at least put the title.
You guys check out.
Wban uh, I think wb.
com and look for um uh Ron’s article on the women’s International Boxing Hall of Fame.
That happened this past uh couple weekends ago.
Um awesome awesome event, love that he went out and supported women’s boxing.
Women who have behaved badly uh throughout the years and and now has put, is putting some ink to paper.
You know making it real, making the stories real out here and and writing about it.
Right because, at the end of it all, you know it’s, whoever tells your story the best and that’s the life of a fighter for real at the end of the day is whoever told your story, the best um, so um, the the art article, the title of Our scar, Ron’s article, is um belted, the first wibf world champion reunites with the sacred sacred strap.
Oh, that sounds good um.
My host says I’m looking forward to the read rscar one and I’m looking forward to the read too um you already started off.
It sounds good first wi ibf world champion reunites with the sacred your sacred scrap, so our scarf one is already paying homage to those who laid the foundation or laid the ground for what you see now in women’s boxing.
So it’s you know.
That’S when, once you show that that kind of depth, you know, there’s longevity there, there’s there’s, there’s um what you call it.
There’S authenticity there right because now now you know he they not he’s not fan boying or fan Girling right, he’s telling it how it what it is.
What had happened and educating you on this wonderful world of women Behaving Badly um, so um rsar one says it’s not the usual article on WBA an all right.
It’S not the usual article.
Well, tell me how so R scarf one um is it.
Are you saying that, because it you, you wouldn’t be able to put the link on in in in the chat thread? Let us know, because we want to be able to get to you and and get to your info.
It’S long! Okay! It’S a long article! All right, so this what I’mma do this? What I’mma do I’mma go on and read that I’mma come back and talk about it rcar when uh, let’s make a date, let’s make a date, so how about next Wednesday? We make a date for uh.
Talking about that, we want to review your article on the sugar show I’mma tell you how I feel about it.
Okay, you tell me what you was feeling while you wrote it.
Okay, is that a date our scar says: okay? Yes, I I don’t usually ask the men out, they ask me out, but, as you can see, sugar anything anything anything for a good time, and I know we going to have a good time talking about what you did anyway, you guys um yeah.
You could see it in Sugar eyes, you know what I’m saying the weather coming in over here and stuff.
So I’m telling you I’m all bundled up and whatnot.
You know what I’m saying send some of send some of those um chicken, noodle, soups and and all of that stuff, all of those good Coco and teas, and all of those things that y’all use to make yourselves feel good when you having one of them.
You know uh sick days um, so tonight’s episode is called.
Where is she now, and you know, ain’t ain’t picking on nobody, not picking on nobody, because I’m going to randomly doing I’m going to be randomly doing my? Where? Is she Nows? Okay? I am why? Because in women’s boxing it’s very easy to slide off the map, very easy.
If you don’t have uh, I mean it’s it’s hard to be having stuff going on all the time.
We don’t get to fight all the time, and very often you know unless we got the bread behind us and right now, these ones that have the bread they’re, taking advantage of the fact that you know uh those who don’t have the bread they we don’t get To fight all the time, so they shouldn’t have to fight all the time right.
That’S that’s just how it is I I guess you know you play both ends of of the the Spectrum anyway, lovely assistant.
What we got – oh okay, now um so is: where is she now so we got uh one two, three four.
We got four Fighters um in this picture here to my left.
It’S always to the left to the left, um, and it seems I I believe I mean it was a it’s been a year right.
It’S been a year.
This was a mega fight.
This was women’s boxing history.
How many of y’all talked about this fight since it happened last year? You know what I’m saying, how many people um how? What part of women’s history has this you know substantially made a difference for everyone.
You know all women’s boxers um because it was a Mega Match and it was supposed to be all you know this High grossing and the first and all of this.
Well, what what has it done for for women’s boxing? Besides, you know it, it happened right, Mega, stuff, Mega stuff keeps going Mega, stuff keeps being Mega right, so do y’all recognize um the broads in this picture.
Here I see Michaela, Meyer and red shirt to the far left.
We got with the blue hair representing um.
The struggle the water struggle in Detroit in Flint Clarissa Shields.
We got Standing Tall in the all black Savannah Marshall and then we have to my immediate left here: Alicia bumgardner, so it’s been like we, the the we’re talking about.
You know how fragile a career um things can affect a a career, a woman pugilist career like like something can happen to you and your career career is over in a blink [, Music, ] um, which is you know not the same or which would be kind Of contrary in men’s boxing right A lot of these guys, they get, they get locked up, they get arrest, you know they uh domestic violence.
They they do.
They get caught with the PS.
You know they do all of this and they’re they’re able to bounce back from it right, but um, especially this one to my immediate uh left here.
You know she did something she was on a great climb since this um.
Since this event, since this Mega women’s match Alicia bum Garner and look at where she is now, like I mean from what I heard, you know, she’s still Tweeting, but her career how’s she going to come back from it.
I we arguably say I mean we say in the women’s boxing Community like when we talk like career is basically over.
You know how’s she gon na bounce back from this who’s going to fight her how’s.
She gon na justify any of her fights moving forward.
It’S different for the women right Savannah Marshall um only had one belt at that time.
Now she has them all at Super middleweight.
Can you imagine right so uh the tides turned in her favor in the past year and she did well in acquiring um the Undisputed titles.
The the Undisputed uh titles ship that she has now so um see how fragile thing you know how fragile it is, which you know the this week or this weekend.
She you know that it was probably one of the worst weekends or worst fights of her life right lost in her home country, in front of everybody to Clarissa Shields and now she’s an Undisputed world champion the very same way um.
Then you got uh Clarissa Shields.
Pretty consistent, you know, Clarissa Shields has been on a high on a high for a while um [ Music, ] um, proving you know.
Nothing has changed, just been very consistent right and she’s, showing also in in um the the industry of women’s boxing.
The the fact that she’s authentically producing right, she hasn’t cherry-picked so far, she’s, given everybody an opportunity to get them damn hands to get warmed up right and she’s in in her being consistent in her having the right people behind her the the way um, uh goodness, Who is her promoter? Celita promotes her.
You know she she’s she’s cruising.
She she will be uh a legend in women’s boxing.
Yes, I’m I’m saying it so far, so good after having such a a, I would say a rock start, because I I I’m not going to lie like I saw on the very same platform, um WBA, where there was so much hate for this young lady, like Hate not oh, I don’t like her, but people saying hateful things about this.
Young girl and all she was doing was trying to be a fighter just like everyone else.
Beav Behaving Badly right, so she’s been consistent and she’s been she’s, been showing that energy, even through that kind of adversity, even through you know, growing up and realizing that you know everyone’s not going to like me.
You know I’m got to find who I am and, and I’ve got to be me and Clarissa Shields.
You know she’s she’s, still her she’s still the Clarissa Shields to me that you see in this picture right.
She want to talk her and she want.
She want.
Put her hands behind what she what she says, um and so there on the far far left.
You have Michaela Meyer in the red shirt now Michaela Meyer, this weekend was horrible for her cuz.
She lost all her belts right.
She she was skating along and she was the the Disney princess who um can box and you know very protected and and padded and on this night, the the one broad who the one little broad who she thought couldn’t touch her that she could avoid and ignore Out of existence took all her candy right, so I mean she uh Michaela Meer was Reeling for a good minute right begging for that rematch advocating for the rematch.
So I can’t imagine I can’t imagine how she felt when she heard about that dirty pee from Michaela um from uh Alicia bumgardner right.
Am I right or am I right right? It’S like yeah yeah.
You know that was her little um.
I guess karma Kickback, but Michaela Meer has since left this weight class and moved up and now she’s she’s talking about she’s, challenging uh, Welter, weights and and middle weights.
So I mean the fragility right of what can happen in a year right.
You can.
You can have it all and you can lose it all in women’s box and when yet I mean I’m talking about when it’s gone, it’s gone, you know what I’m saying um there there there’s no straggling, or you know that I can.
I can.
I just need to wait till things cooled out.
No, it’s gone right, so it’s it’s! I I I brought it up.
You know the the the.
Where is she now? Because it was something Mega and in that meaness you know a year after the mega the Mega Match.
So many things have changed.
You know uh someone who you know, Alicia Bumgarner gained it all and now she’s pretty much lost it all.
Um uh uh, um, Savannah Marshall lost.
Was she the the one thing she thought she had her one belt and now she has it all.
She has all of them right, claricia Shields.
If anything, you know um in her personal life, she lost some things, but now she’s working on coming them, uh gaining them back or gaining it back seems like and Michaela meire had to um reinvent herself like come.
She she had to find herself in another weight class right, so I mean in one year.
This is what happens: um lovely assistant.
Is there any let’s get to the other image? Okay? Now, also, where is she now so we’re looking at um? And I – and I I really hate that you I’m not advertising Sky Sports, I’m not because they ain’t advertising sugar, but I just uh thought that this was this.
Cheesy ass picture was just a great picture because now um Natasha Jonas is the first black um boxing female boxing manager in the UK.
Can you imagine the first black female boxing manager in the UK? That’S where she is now now.
My whole thing about that is okay, so you telling it’s it’s not enough that you’re having a good run now you got to go and get real real, cheesy and corny on us right, cuz! That’S some real corny right there right! Congratulations! Yes! You’Re! The first you’re you’re, a woman of color, who has decided to embark on managing um boxing management.
The thing about this is um.
When you use the Black Card yeah I’m going to go there, I’m going to get real, controversial, controvertial! Okay, when you use the Black Card, let it be for some that is relevant is real.
You know it’s something that oh she’s gon na.
Do you know you know we do this right.
Okay, the pop right! Now, if you want to use the Black Card, the first black, the first black female boxing manager in um, the UK? Okay.
So what are you going to do for the you’re black and you’re you’re using the black card? And I guess you’ve made history now? What are you gon na do for the blacks right? Because you seem that you seem they seem to think it’s so important that they mention that she’s, a black um boxing manager, woman block boxing manager, like she hadn’t, even done anything in management in managing Fighters.
What are the disparities of black fighters in the UK right are are like? Are you doing this for a struggle, or are you doing this for a tension now talking about you know, I, this black card that they played to me was just corny about it.
If she, if uh Natasha Jonas, decides to now be a a boxing manager, that’s fantastic right.
We need, we need um women to represent uh the business aspect of of boxing and managing Fighters.
But now when you start, but when you play the card now you you you you you pulling the card right this this first black right, Natasha Jones! Congratulations! Oh on being a a boxing manager! Okay, but um! I don’t like the this, this black, the the Blackness right this the first time I ever heard you pumping yourself up with the Blackness or about the Blackness right.
So if you ain’t coming through the door with the card, don’t pull that out your ass and try to play it right for for for brownie points and for Kudos right? There’S there’s history being made right and that’s the thing about women’s women boxers that a lot of women boxers that um it’s we got to slow.
We got to slow down right, great, there’s so much history that can be made in our industry and with what we do right, but the history, the real history, is: how are you in? How is what you’ve done, or how and and and how you’re adding to history? How is it going to affect affect the lives of those who come after you right? You you’ve, you paved! You you’ve now cemented the the path right so she’s talking about first black women’s boxing manager in the UK, okay, um historically now is it that we we needed.
We we need more black women managers in boxing like or historically now you know, Natasha Jonas girl get you a stable of Fighters, see how it go.
You know what I’m saying before you come with the damn C through the window, because the might not even work out for you, you might not even like managing Fighters CU managing Fighters, ain’t.
What is cracked up to be? It’S not easy! It’S not nice right and it’s not smooth.
You may lose your investment of a couple of these mother suckers that come.
You know, know that’s coming out here on that um on this business tip.
Excuse me y’all, my let let me goodness my my batter is getting low.
Let me just give me a second hold on all right.
That’Ll work.
Excuse me excuse.
Oh my gosh that didn’t do anything.
Okay hold on you guys.
I got ta get this power.
I got ta get my power to work.
Oh my go! Sorry you guys it’s always something with sugar.
Huh um.
Bear with me.
That’S all.
I ask show me how much you love me.
Bear [, Music, ], you all right! Y’All! I’M back! Look at us! Look at us getting all sadidi and whatnot and right I I got commercial break like like.
You can’t tell me nothing.
You can’t tell me nothing about my guys here on talking fight like this real for real.
I I got commercial breaks and whatnot okay, so um! Oh, look, who chimed in women’s Boxing Channel says well, damn said been saying it all week.
All this virtue, signaling boxer and sky and BBC are doing is attracting attention to color being targeted.
It stinks.
Um women’s Boxing Channel also says No Such Thing these days as first black um am, I parentheses, the first White to say this.
Well, let me tell you something: baby um, you know as someone who has been through, you know racial aders, you know um.
I know you know I I I know about the card and I know when playing the card is real and I know when playing the card is like you know you now you now you now you abusing the card right that card.
That black card is something serious.
Okay, just like a lot of other cards right.
If I played the Black Card, I know I’mma play.
I’M going have to play that card for real for real right.
I’M not gon na come out talking about first black right.
I could have came out and said: oh I’m, the first black to do this.
The I’ve been the first I’m I was the first to do a lot of things and I’m black I identify is black right, but I mean this this cheesy now.
That’S all I’m saying um Natasha J, I never heard of her talking about you know the Blackness right.
So keep it to yourself.
If you, if you’re gon na, if you’re gon na, do something it ain’t cuz you [ Music, ] black right, it’s doing it because, and I and I hope she didn’t let Sky she didn’t make Sky.
Well, let Sky Sports turn her into a a damn.
You know uh what they call it um, what they call it space monkey.
You know what I’m saying oo, meaning that you know they from what from what we all know they used to put um.
You know they used to put monkeys chimpanzees into the rocket ships and and and launch them into outer space and see how the hell the go like.
If how you know the monkey gon na survive, you know what I’m saying like.
Can the teach the monkey how to work the controls and do the right instead of sending somebody real up there and seeing or to outer space and seeing how it goes? Well, Sky Sports now wants to see.
Oh okay.
Well, you know you ain’t making.
No, it’s not anything really going on with you Natasha, so you want to be the first black broad to do some.
I hope she didn’t say okay and jumped on the band bandwagon with this corny right here, because it’s really corny right boxing managers become are a diamond dozen right now.
Okay, it’s it ain’t like back when you know it was a deadlocked, IND, lock, industry.
We have a lot of minor minority women in the management they’re in a Africa they’re.
You know they’re they’re in the US.
They are you know in parts of Europe they I mean.
Don’T don’t do no like that.
That’S all I’m saying and look at her.
That’S why you know this picture is suiting because and the shit’s just as corny as how this picture looks right and I’ve seen her do so much better um, but we going to call a thing, a thing right, so you know if, if you out here Jing, You know, and and and you out here you let them put they hand up your ass and now you on here, looking like this, then girl take a break, have a seat right.
This is not necessary.
Do your thing be great in your management um boxing management um Endeavors right, but until you do some real right like make promote another woman, uh promote the first woman heavyweight champion or some like that sit your ass down.
We don’t need it.
We don’t need to hear it um.
My host says we are professionals, I know, y’all are professional, I’m just saying I’m doting on my guys ho my host women’s Boxing Channel says black, not blacking, LOL, okay! Well, let me say this right.
Um, I’m just saying this black, not black I’ve, I’ve grown up like I’ve been told.
Oh you not black enough, and you know having my card question questioned my black.
You know what I’m saying we’re not going to go into that right.
It is I’m not going to lie, though it’s tough being a a minority in in uh women’s boxing.
I was told to my face one time.
You know you don’t you’re you’re not going to get very far you don’t you don’t fit the schematic that sells.
No one wants to see you.
They want to see that blond, hair girl, next door, you’re not marketable and which brings me back to uh how Clarissa Shield started off right because it was uh.
Oh Clarissa Shields versus Katie Taylor, Clarissa Shields, two gold medals.
Katie Taylor won Gold Medal.
They turned Pro around the same time.
A lot of people were saying: oh, but Katie, Taylor’s more marketable than Clarissa Shields, not realizing how racist they were, showing themselves to be right, because why – and it just tickled me – because it was something that was said to me over and over and over with confidence Right, A lot of people would say that to me and and in a sense to say you know this racism is what’s this? Is it right? You got to deal with it? We don’t want to see you, they don’t want to see you, and so we’re not going to put you there just because meaning that if I had the, if, if, if I wasn’t a minority and if, if if I was as marketable, if I was that marketable Um class or race, I would have had it all, but because I’m tainted with what you see in front of you, I’m I’m I’m not marketable, I’m not a product that they think would sell.
You understand, I mean very hurtful right.
You work hard.
All your life, you think that people are going to see you for what you are, which is a a good fight, figh a great fighter and at the end of the day they tell you you’re not marketable, because the color of your skin right.
So I that was a big deal um when years ago, when Clarissa Shield started – and I suppose it’s probably a big deal now – I you know, but it’s something that before that before that was even a topic that that people people cared to discuss.
It was something that a lot of us minority, um female Fighters female boxers, had to deal with right, um not being paid as much not having the opportunities that The Others May are are other.
You know counter the our peers, women, who are our peers, but are not the minority race would have you know things like that? We had to deal with it and it was an ugly.
It was an ugly topic that we people a lot of us ignored because we didn’t not only did we want to um not play the Black Card, but we did not want that black ball.
You know what I’m saying, because you could easily get black balled.
That’S how fragile it is in women’s boxing right.
The word can get out on you and you don’t get no work, no opportunities from nobody and you’re sitting there until you disappear.
Okay, um women’s Boxing Channel, comes and says because if she’s the she the first black this and that, then she also first black woman to prevent a 154 Undisputed and a 147 Undisputed can’t have it both ways see my point.
It creates that wasn’t that um women’s Boxing Channel that wasn’t very clear to me.
I’M going to try to read it again to see what you mean, because, if she’s the first black this and that then she’s also first black woman to prevent, is it prevent or um she’s, the first black woman woman to um attain what a 154 and a 147 Undisputed title can’t have it both ways see my point um.
So, are you saying that you know she didn’t celebrate the F being the first black to be an Undisputed Champion, so this first black stuff that she coming her and Sky Sports are coming out with now is, is like real lame right right? That’S what I mean you know.
I never heard her representing.
You know that no Blackness, I’m I’m black black black black right, so shut your ass.
Now, because this is not the time we don’t need it, we don’t need it um.
Now, if you come out talking about some real issues that uh you know, minority women, female Fighters face – and you want to be a advocate for us who have faced it – then yes, but your punk ass ain’t trying to touch that you ain’t trying to dip your Toe in that end of the pool, it’s too deep for you, so Natasha Jonas kindly find your ass a seat and sit there.
Um women’s boxing channnel says agree totally with what you said so far.
What what am I hallucinating from my fever, women’s Boxing Channel and I are in agreement, it actually makes me feel a little bit better.
Thank you yeah.
So if we both agree on that, then you know good, because I thought I was going.
I thought, to be honest, I thought somebody was going well, somebody may come in y’all know they love they love to put it in my mailbox.
They love putting it in my comment section, and I love that too.
I’M fine with it ain’t.
Nobody scared, I’m fine! Um my host said the stars are line tonight.
Hey that’s one thing about my guys: they do not.
They do not miss out on a chance to to poke the damn bear talking about the STS are aligned tonight.
Um women’s Boxing Channel says nobody in UK is discriminated against as a fighter due to genetics, all women, men and women Fighters are treated equally regardless of origin.
Well, I’m glad you can I I’m glad to hear that from you, women, uh Boxing Channel, I’m glad um that you that you feel that way.
Um, like I said this is a topic that not a lot of Fighters ma male or female black white asian South Asian.
You know the the whole Spectrum, not not many would want to address because you can easily get blackballed by um.
Getting you know getting political.
You know by by talking about uh the the antisocial aspect of um, the business of the industry of boxing okay, so um and antisocial, meaning these type of um behaviors.
Where you know, there’s racism, there’s Prejudice, um, there’s um sexism.
All of these things um even religion.
You know what I’m saying: uh these things, um women’s Boxing Channel, also says prevent because she stopped Terry Harper fighting her for 154 Undisputed and refuses to fight Sandy Ryan.
If she gets all other belts, uh women, Boxing Channel.
But what, where is she now tell me? What’S up with your girl Sandy D, you didn’t you went in on the show right and I tell me how you felt about what what what Sandy did uh when she had the the the opportunity to fight Mill.
Tell me what you think about that um women’s Boxing Channel comes in and says, but it’s okay, because if Jonah refuses carries on hostage and unification she’ll be stripped.
Well, you know women’s Boxing Channel as long as the as long as the fighter has the money to pay the bill.
They’Re not going to be stripped they’re trying not to strip Alicia Alicia still technically has her belts.
You know what I’m saying it’s, this uh bum Gardner right, uh, it’s the same thing with Mill.
Maskill is technically supposed to not have those belts because she relinquished them to move down in wait to fight for the same um belts in another weight class.
You are not, you cannot do that and still go back to your weight, Division and M and have your belts.
It doesn’t work like that, but yet – and still here we are so my thing about that is you know uh, and I I know in I know in a if it’s all fair, if you know if life was fair Sandy, would would get her fight with Natasha And Terry Harper would too, but I don’t see if, if Natasha’s still paying that bill, I don’t see where um they going to have that opportunity.
Especially, did you see how your girl um Terry Harper, up the bed versus um Cecilia breakas? Did you see that? Did you see that fight? Don’T nobody want to see her fight? Nobody, you know I mean to be.
This is where me and you going this where me and you might, you know, Clash heads women’s Boxing Channel.
She stunk up the place them two s.
Um breus and um.
Put the picture back, put the picture of cheesee head back.
I’M sorry, that’s my girl.
Okay.
I like I like Natasha Jonas.
I like her right, but this right here you know, I’m you know I’m gon na put my foot on your damn D neck when you bullshitting out here.
I can’t I’m not.
I y’all see this the first black come on now we’re not doing that.
I’M the first black.
I should have show why your ass didn’t show up at the um women’s boxing intern, the women International Hall of Fame, with that, why didn’t you show up there trying to trying to make history outside of give me? My H said: that’s a very fake, looking smile, you see how she holding the mic too girl you better off girl, I would have girl, you should have came out you you should have did like Fran sea and say you know what check one check.
Two, I’m I’m coming out with an album, I’m f R, I’m I’m going to start rapping y’all.
She should have did some like that this right here.
That’S all I’m saying! That’S all I’m saying it’s! It’S just not giving Champion Vibes right because Champions don’t do like that right.
If you’re Want To Be A Champion and Champion the the boxing industry, then be, you know, carry yourself as such, you, you don’t be a puppet and, and you know don’t don’t play, don’t play such a sensitive card just to get attention.
Um women’s Boxing Channel says bum Garder, um, ped, bum Jonas unification hostage taker.
Well, there’s a lot: they they ain’t, the they ain’t, the only ones right, they’re, not the only ones they haven’t been the only ones right.
It’S real bad because when they’re doing it right, but they haven’t been the only ones, it was cute when, when some of these other um hostage holders was doing it right when Cecilia ass was out here doing it right, Holly Holm was doing it right.
It was cute when they ass was doing it right, h, not fighting people uh, who else, who else never used to fight anybody and kept the belts as hostage.
There was a lot of them and, and the was cute right, so I’m not gon na I’m not gon na um, I’m not going to drag Natasha Jonas.
For that, because she’s only doing like she’s playing she’s playing like how everyone else is doing.
Oh women, Miss Boston, Channel, came out and said Choy done it her all her career.
That’S what I’m saying right so you know know they’re doing it, I’m not going to drag her for that.
When you know, there’s been some real disgusting broads in in the history.
In history that have done it, no I’m just saying: [ Music, ] um.
I haven’t seen the Black Card played like this and it bothers me it.
I think it’s it’s an insult.
I I felt insulted right, so I wanted to get the record straight on that um women’s Boxing Channel comes in and says: breus and Harper were well below World Elite standards.
That night it gave women’s boxing a bad look IMO what’s IMO, you know I’m kind! You you know, I’m Ruby Ruby’s granddaughter right, so I don’t really do I’m kind of old school school.
With these with these acronyms you going have to break it down, but um.
You know and that’s a that was a world title match that looked like it.
Didn’T.
Even look like something it didn’t even look like an interesting amateurish match.
You know I know um check it out check these.
Ladies out there’s a tournament out here that um Blanca does I forgot um.
I can’t I don’t even want to you know, mess up her.
Last name but Blanca we were together.
We came up in the same generation as amateurs.
She was a.
She was a good fighter in the amateurs um, but she didn’t she didn’t.
I don’t think she took it to Pro, but she’s now in charge of this wonderful um, amateur promotion called Beautiful Brawlers.
You guys check it out right, she’s, making a platform she’s made old school too, like the old school like what we went through.
This is what I’m saying this: she it cuz she seasoned in it.
She came up through the she came up through the the filter like like us, the rest of us like Suge, and you know those in that generation.
Her platform is that same way, so she has a a all women’s um, amateur uh boxing tournament called beautiful Brawlers, where you know all the young baddies, all the wet, noosed baddies.
All the green baddies can get together and see um who the who the baddest one of all is right, and I love her for that right and those these are the things that you know the card.
You know that she playing her card strong as right, but nobody saying anything right, ain’t.
Nobody talking going these other platforms right right.
They talking about you know these other ones.
It’S not about! Oh um.
Now I got t-shirts made and you know I girls are boxing.
No, like Blanca, has been through the filter.
She knows what the industry needs.
What she’s doing is playing a huge role in the future of women’s boxing, because she’s she’s making a Gard her the the the soil, is fertile she’s, making a place where, if you think you bad, you want to be a baddy you’re gon na go there and You’Re GNA prove yourself.
You want to make a name for yourself there.
That’S what it’s all about right this right here.
It’S not right, but this right here, meaning you know with the mic.
Look look important, look a official! No, what Blanca! You know what Blanca is doing beautiful Brawlers.
You know what I’m saying: there’s been several upstarts that are coming just off of that just off of that branch of the tree.
Let’S talk about that right.
Let let’s talk about how strong she’s playing her card as being a minority in the you know in the industry of boxing and then on top of that you know making a a strong foundation for women boxers in women’s boxing right, um women’s boxing said – and this Was like before a rematch between them, Cecilia and braas and Harper is a joke, a joke.
Listen! It should be against the law to waste somebody’s.
Damn time like that, should be against the law right.
You don’t play with adults like that.
I don’t even think they their parents, their family, would come back and watch that they’d be like all right.
Baby.
Tell me how it went.
I I I be there, but if I miss it, tell me how it went did do good nobody gon na show up for that and watch that again gosh I looking puffy and what um um sorry y’all Sugar Sugar need like a some warmth and coziness.
Just I’m not feeling good today, like my son, would say: I’m not feeling good.
Today, Mama um women’s Boxing Channel says no, I do single Jonas.
No, I do single Jonas out she’s using her beef with Eddie Hearn to destroy our fck Fighter’s chances of getting their Undisputed dream.
Man.
Let me tell you something about these: damn dreams get in line.
You know how many dreams have been broken off less because she won’t fight Sandy Ryan or because she won’t fight who else? Terry Harper, I’m sorry, um.
Sorry, I’m sorry like people who deserve who people in in women’s boxing history who deserved chances and never got it.
You know what I’m saying it happened, so guess what if it happens to Sandy Ryan or Terry Harper, there’s a space in a long long line for them too right.
This is just the breaks of it.
This is how it happens right so um, Terry Harper had her.
I mean yeah, both Terry Harper and uh Sandy Ryan had their opportunity to uh get get what they was trying to get right.
Terry Harper had 10 damn rounds.
To give s, you break us.
The business right to put herself in a position where people would say she, you know what give her that chance.
You know what de I’ll pay the money to watch that and what happened same thing with Sandy Ryan Sandy Ryan.
Had the opportunity to really dispatch Mill Mill didn’t even respect the girl enough to to show up on Fight Night in shape right.
She there tickling her rib break the fold her in half and take your belts right.
That was your chance.
The hell you waiting on Natasha Jonas, for she ain’t got to give y’all right.
You see she managing now wait right! It’S not like that and I think that’s the misconception that the y’all UK Fighters have coming in.
I think y’all need to have uh meet and greet with Jane couch y’all need to talk to that fighter.
She she I mean she could tell you a lot more right.
She could School y’all because there’s no for some reason, UK Fighters female Fighters seem to think that it’s a it’s it’s something where they can um.
You know I I guess put in papers or I’m.
I’M here in line so um, I I’m at this place in line, so I’m next it doesn’t work like that.
It never did never right so y’all don’t come around here.
Don’T come in here! Thinking that that’s the way it’s going to work for y’all, because it’s not it’s not and the thing about about it – is the about it is they they had the opportunities and they they’re they they’re it up right.
You got a fully beautiful, spread bed and you go and you in the bed.
You know what I’m saying back in the day.
You know that that’s your one shot.
What Alicia bum Garner did to Terry Harper is that’s what and the thing about it is with Terry Harper is it was done to her, so I would have been on some Revenge Type stuff right.
I would have been on some rev.
I would have been on guess what I’m gon na have to do that to some I’m gon na have to run that back on somebody, Cecilia.
Is it you you’re you’re G to catch you’re G to catch one of these hands and and I’mma try my damnest to make sure you kiss that mat, because I did it right and that’s what happened to this one over here, Natasha Jonas.
Remember right! What’S her name, oov oov made her ass recalculate because she was one of those too.
She was one of the UK Fighters.
Oh it’s my place in line, and you know right.
She still talks about how bad when Terry was up, and she was down how Terry and them treated her so now she’s in a position to make Terry, you know make Terry wait for something that she ain’t gon na get well, she won to do it.
This is women.
It’S.
This is women’s boxing right, it’s not in men’s boxing.
Oh, you know, the promoters are the ones who you know will drag a fight out or drag negotiations out.
No in women’s boxing, we can simply be a and say no, no, I’m not fighting her.
No ain’t GNA happen no chance next and that’s it.
That’S how fragile a your career is in women’s boxing [ Music, ] um.
Let’S see oh okay, um R scarf one comes in hi IMO is, in my opinion.
Thank you.
Our scarf one um and women’s Boxing Channel says that um International Women’s Hall of Fame didn’t even invite Jane couch to the next ceremony after coid.
She got.
She got sent it through the post and never heard from them again.
I’M sorry and women’s Boxing Channel.
I know you’re sensitive, but listen.
This is what I’m saying women’s box women’s boxing it I’m not saying that.
Listen! You got ta you kind of have to it’s a disfunctional relationship.
We all have a dysfunctional relationship with each other and with and in this industry.
Okay, I do agree with you.
I do agree age.
They should be inviting Jane couch should be a um representative of wban over there in U UK right like, I would definitely bring her in now.
I don’t know what the politics! I don’t know what what all of that! Why it didn’t happen? I would have thought of it right, but I don’t know what suing them was thinking right, Melissa, delal, who was an extra ordinary uh fighter in women’s boxing history, great fighter? Okay, you talking about Amanda Sano, talking about I’m the first and then I’m this and I’m gon na do this for women’s box girl girl, because who we know who we know is Melissa, Salomon, Melissa, delal, okay, now um out of Puerto Rico.
Okay, so you got Amanda Serrano talk talking like she, the first Puerto Rican broad to do a lot of where you had uh, like I said, Melissa delal me Melissa Salomon, who did a lot of as a first uh Bonnie Canino.
First Puerto Rican.
You know what I’m saying female fighter: uh Belinda larente, you know, but all of a sudden now you know history and Amanda San.
You see what I’m saying so it’s a dysfunctional relationship, Amanda sran, has never biged up none of her big sisters, none of her aunties from Puerto Rica, who put they foot in that in the in in the damn game right made, the pot funky put they foot In the pot, you know what I’m saying: it’s me history, I’m doing this now now this I me me and that’s what it is in women’s boxing.
That’S why she’s still sitting here with that damn cheesy corny ass, look on her face, because this is what she trying to do over there in the UK right instead of doing something, substantial and and and cultivating a relationship with someone who and those who have done It in the past and do do it and really make something.
Now you want to sit there with the the the with the you know what I’m saying with the mic in your you know, and I’m black while I’m doing it, I’m black girl, if you don’t girl, if you don’t, if you don’t get out get out of Alace with that um, so yeah, I’m not saying that uh, the international women box Boxing Hall of Fame – they they have their.
They have their own stuff, that they’re working on Melissa, delal.
She she was nominated and she came on.
You know she came out saying yeah, y’all y’all never said anything about me.
Y’All didn’t boost me up when I was doing my when I was doing my thing right.
You had your favorites and now you want to give me an award because it makes you look good.
You know what I’m saying: that’s how she felt about it and yeah yeah.
I agree with how she feels, but I also am grateful that the women International women’s Boxing Hall of Fame um has established a platform that they are they are.
They are um.
How can I put this? They are making a formal acknowledgment of a lot of us and what we are doing and what we’ve done right now, if you got a brown nose to get in or to get one of them Awards or whatever.
I guess that’s on you, but before we before we had that we had nothing, you know and that and and that’s where you know, that’s that that’s where I see it, that’s the truth and you know sugar is is, is loyal only to the truth.
Um women’s Boxing Channel also says also the international Hall of Fame hasn’t even recognized couch in any.
I would think you say category they both oh, they, both favor Americans yeah.
It would be good if this one right here actually looked into that and did something about it right if she wants to use her clout right, it would be good if, if Jane couch established something like what Sue and them are doing over there in the UK, It would be good if you did that women’s Boxing Channel right establish a platform where the UK baddies that contributed to our historical identity are acknowledged.
You know you can’t talk about somebody Point finger and you didn’t do it well.
If they not doing it, then your ass need to do it.
If it’s that, if it’s important right, that’s all I’m saying women’s Boxing Channel says: Ry was robbed badly by corrupt judges from uh bent ass Florida State Commission now everybody know Florida yeah! That’S why it happened in Florida to be honest: okay, um, because you ain’t gon na go to Florida and come from out of town and beat nobody Lo, nobody from here.
You know what I’m saying: that’s, why that’s number one number two um and the same time, women’s Boxing Channel Sandy Ryan was robbed, but she wasn’t robbed badly.
Okay, she was robbed just like how every any every any other fighter, every other female fighter who worked hard and did what the hell they needed to do – got robbed right, she’s, a couple FES away from being a journey woman right, meaning that she’s.
Not it’s not! That she’s a loser.
It’S just that you see what they’re turning her they’re, trying to turn her into right, she’s, a good fighter, but she hasn’t been put in the positions at where she can absolutely shine and she hasn’t performed in the capacity where she is absolutely dominant and Shining.
So they’re, taking advantage of it, that’s what’s happening um.
So that’s a part of the seasoning that I keep saying you know.
R Sandy Ryan needs seasoning, I’m not taking away she’s a talented fighter, but she needs seasoning.
My host says she should be managing her own career before jumping in the management pool.
Oh what you talking about Natasha Jonas! Well, let me tell you some um host, you know it’s tough to be to self-manage and train, and you know get your endorsement and do all of that.
It’S tough it it! It takes a toll on this right because you can’t manage yourself and and and go through the negotiations where they’re basically telling you you’re not worth, because that’s what then that’s what right your manager is.
The one who goes in there guns are blazing no, no, no uh.
You won’t pay us this because we’re worth it our value is this.
This is what’s going to happen.
Baah blah blah right, it’s hard for you to do that when you have people coming in well, you know you’re not really worth that or you know you, you really not selling or you can’t sell this or whatever, and then you take that back in your mind To training and and trying to be ready for the you know for who’s coming after your head right, it’s hard because it it’s still a voice in the back of your mind, oh my gosh.
This is what this is.
What this what’s out here in the streets about me, you know, and and and it does bring you down – um, so yeah.
What her ass need to do is just um.
She she needs to Tasha Jonas needs to um at this point, get a life.
She really does need to get a life like.
What is she doing? What is she doing? You know what I’m saying: what is she doing? What is she doing, this managing boxers, no boo, boo, you’re, not doing that right, um save the children.
You know what I’m saying raise money for the needy.
Help women who are in you know who are in dire need.
You know, do thing, be be an do that right.
We don’t need you to manage nobody in boxing.
Get a life um women’s Boxing Channel says just because she didn’t KO her means nothing in terms of a win oo, otherwise change the rules for KO for a title win.
Well, let me tell you something: um you ever heard Le.
Let me get you wise in order to get a belt from any of these broads from from from the queen.
You got to kill her right.
You can’t come to the Queen’s Kingdom.
She Sandy Ryan, flew across the pond from the UK right cross the waters and expected to get a decision.
So you came to the you came to the ladies um.
You came to not only her neighborhood to to her to her yard and you expected to win a fight from a decision.
No, you got to kill her and bury her in her yard and then go back with the spoils of it.
Go back with all the belts yeah she needed to she needed to she needed to either hurt and she was hurting Masia with those body shots, but Sandy Ryan’s not seasoned enough to know how to put somebody away right.
So they pushed her into that situation and the opportunity slipped through her fingers, and I promise you Jessica Mill – will not fight Sandy Ryan.
Again, that’s a guarantee, okay, um, so yeah it does mean it means a lot right.
This is not amateurs and even in amateurs like i f, flew across the pond and or if, even even if I went to another state, another neighborhood, if I didn’t fold or hurt abroad, I’m I knew I wasn’t winning and we need to keep it that way.
Right look at what Cecilia breus did like the.
I think I think the 147 belts.
To be honest, I think they have a curse on them.
I do right because, like it’s, it’s passed from one bullshitter to the next right, Cecilia braus, look at her Cecilia braas is actually fighting better than she did when she was when she was hot right.
Cecilia Z, braus is the one that brought in this.
This whole point: fighting um, uh, glorified amateur style and now we’re stuck with it right now.
We got people out here, thinking it’s okay, to try to point fight somebody and and and beat them in their backyard.
No! No! When I went to Japan and fought fujin Rea okay, I boxed her damn ears off right, but fujin made sure her knees buckled a couple times, but her ass made sure she stayed on her feet right because that’s the only way – and I was trying to I – Was trying to get her I should have.
I was wasn’t seasoned, then that’s why I’m saying Sandy Ryan needs more seasoning.
I didn’t have seasoning at that time, so I didn’t know that how to how to put fujin away right and then uh.
I forgot what fighter came after me and actually broke her damn nose and stopped her and that’s how she got the title off of fuin.
Right, but how could how dare I expect to fly to Japan, right and and box outbox, because I was being nice right, outbox fuin, because we were the first, oh, I could say black and Asian in the history of Japan, of to have a female fight together.
Right I could say that right how I look right, but yeah we were the first.
You know female fight in J, Japanese history.
How how dare I expect to go over there and beat her on point? You know what I’m saying: it’s just an unspoken law when you go to the Champ’s house, when you fight a champ or one of them favorites on her porch, you kill her and you bury her in her yard or under her porch.
You kill the queen and that’s it um women’s Boxing Channel says Ryan beat Mill better than Shields.
Beating Marshall.
You know Shields who who is a great fighter but never koos anyone that Shields exactly right.
To be honest, women’s Boxing Channel, You See Marshall needed seasoning.
I think she did better when she fought Fran Sean right.
If she, if Savannah Marshall, fought Fran seon Cruz like she fought, um fought Clarissa Shields like she fought Fran, seon Cruz she’d have that purple belt.
Okay, she’d have that belt right, but she didn’t have.
She wasn’t seasoned now she’s seasoned right, she’s, a different.
You know we have the pictures there um.
Where is she now that that fighter, then that you saw is a different Savannah Marshall uh than what you see now with the the one, with all the belts right? That experience seasoned her so who’s to say.
Maybe this experience versus Mill gave Sandy Ryan a little seasoning.
Okay, when you knowing I mean she’s, not the first in history, I’ve I’ve felt that hurt.
Knowing that you won, you won, but you lost, and next you feel me, so I mean that.
That’S that’s how fragile your career is in women’s boxing um.
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