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EPISODE: Episode 10
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Damn um [ Music, ], [, Music, ], hello, boxing fans round the world thanks for tuning in to today’s episode of the friday night panel featuring yours truly mike gore, and none other than two-time heavyweight champion of the world tim witherspoon and our man cedric ben now.
At his house and not in the den and you know what we’re here forward to talk about upcoming fights this weekend and whatever topics comes to mind during this group discussion, so let’s take it away boys and get underway uh we got.
We got some fights this weekend, man we do.
We do uh the big one, the main event arthur better bf, 70 17 and oh 17 knockouts every person.
No person has gone the distance with this guy um and he’s he’s he’s a real monster.
Oh my gosh! Yes, he is, he is a monster honestly.
Let me support some stats for the people out there.
That might not know.
Yes, he is 17-0 with 17 kos.
He is in the light heavyweight division.
This 37 year old, canadian, originally russian descent, now uh, resides in montreal quebec and uh he’s ranked number one out of 19 in canada and he’s ranked second out of 1186 in the world and he’s coming off that wonderful ko victory in the ninth round against marcus Brown brown was down in round seven and nine uh prior to the stoppage uh, and that was for the wbc and the ibf world light heavy titles.
So they are now on the line against joe smith, jr uh and that’s headlining saturday’s card.
You said he’s ranked number two he’s rate number one who’s ranked number one.
I thought he was number one.
No dimitri bible is actually ranked number one with his, probably because, probably because of the canelo win, i’m assuming – maybe maybe probably definitely probably because i cannot win um.
If so, if, if uh, all knockouts yeah yeah he’s he’s um he’s yeah you’re not going to distance.
So far, it is a 100 chance you’re not going to distance with this guy according to the numbers uh.
Well, you know three belts in light, heavyweight supremacy will be at stake when the wbc ibf world champion arthur betrayed, takes on wbo champion joe smith jr in this highly anticipated unification showdown, and this goes underway saturday june 18th at hulu, theater, madison square garden, uh betrothed, Boxing’S only world champion with a hundred percent knockout rate and he hopes to pick up another strap against cinderella.
Man smith, along a long island native who grew up about 70 miles from madison square garden.
In the ten round, featherweight co-feature two-time cuban olympic gold, medalist uh robisi ramirez will battle the unbeaten abraham of super nova.
This one, i believe, has the ability to steal the show folks yeah it could be a huge match.
Uh guys robisi ramirez, abraham nova be looking out for these two to get it underway in this co feature this one honestly.
I can’t i can’t wait for this one.
What are your thoughts on it? Cedric um rabisi for people that that might not know is the last person to to beat shakur stevenson um in the olympics 2016 olympics.
They both fought in the final in the gold medal match.
Shakur steve is stricker stevenson against uh robisi.
It was a close fight and at the time shakur steven was only like 17 years old.
You know, i always said to chris stevenson, like boxing wise champ, you, you wouldn’t know what i mean when i say it’s like his skills in the ring.
Like he’s he’s more mature for his for his age, like he like the things that he does, the way that he moves like he moves like like an old veteran as opposed to something he’s going to be chad.
Probably yes, yes, yes, yes, um, like you, you could just you could just see it in him.
Um and and this guy nova is not no joke.
Um, i has claimed the thing.
Is he he dyes his beard blonde, and he says that that helps him with his power so like samson, it’s samson but he’s samson the powers in his hair, [ Laughter, ], the golden locks brother, whatever, whatever mental advantage you can give yourself.
I guess hey.
You know what if it helps and it helps him stay um.
You know on that uprise, because you know tim, you can.
You can explain to everybody out there.
How hard is it to stay on top when you’re at the top? It is it is it’s difficult? Not well, you know it’s fun, but it’s also stressful and um.
It’S happiness.
It’S a lot of different things and a lot of times you try to figure out.
What’S next, what you gon na do next and all that kind of thing um, especially like me, i came from from football to boxing.
There’S people just groomed just for boxing um, i don’t know i didn’t figure anything out really.
I just went into something just kept on moving, you know moving and it’s all different type of things with this.
This being said, you know like with better people, he’s a first-time russian olympian right so that the headline on this is great man.
You know two-time olympian, you know he spent his nine-year pro career based in montreal uh.
You know he has been a world champion since knocking out uh culling uh for the ibf strap in november of 2017.
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He won five title fights inside the distance since then, including an off the deck victory over callum johnson and a title for unique title.
Unification versus alexander uh ghost goes gov’s deck uh in 2019, veteran reeve went 2-0 in 2021.
Capping the year with december’s brutal.
Ninth stoppage over longtime contender, marcus brown, and then we have smith that was bad smith.
28-3, with 22 knockouts earned mainstream recognition with his 2016 knockout of living legend bernard hopkins and scored standout wins over jesse hart and um.
Oh elder alvarez in 2020 in his second world title attempt uh he outlasted max maxim: vlazav.
In a 2021 fight of the year, contender uh smith successfully defended his world title in january with a nine round stoppage over late replacement, steve gefford.
I remember that fight.
That was that that one kind of sticks in my head a little bit um, you know smith.
I i think this guy’s a great box here and then we got you know ramirez on the undercard here, who’s, nine and one before before you go to ramirez about smith.
Um he’s a a very hard puncher there’s nothing to to like he doesn’t do anything flashy.
He did go 12 rounds with beval who uh you know the same guy who beat canelo and it was a good match too.
It was a good, close 12 rounds.
We’Ve all won, but it was it was.
It was close.
So he is.
He is a good boxer and he does have heavy hands because even his everyday job like he works construction, you know one of them guys that just have that those natural strength, natural natural strength just from his everyday job.
So he has that you know the extra not just from turning your hips and transferring your weight properly just that natural extra strength, um and better beef is simply a monster, so he is a monster man.
I don’t think that uh.
I don’t think that mine.
I don’t think that’s a difference at all.
Just go ahead.
Go ahead, just about better, be like a lot of people he’s not he’s.
Definitely not a household name, um, he’s kind of under the radar.
He doesn’t the past couple years.
He hasn’t really fought, he’s not hasn’t been active, like he beat tavares cloud in his sixth fight, which was like back in like 2013-14 faro’s cloud was very good at the time that was his sixth fight, but since then he has been kind of slowly inactive, but I know he’s not partying and i like that um and you know he’s not really on social media.
He doesn’t really speak english, that good see so he’s kind of uh flies under the radar, except when he just pops up and shows up and just stops.
Somebody and then goes back into obscurity for another couple of months: yeah man, definitely real, quick uh.
You were saying talking about the about like going through a process like get becoming undefeated and how you stay focused.
So i really when you hit me with the with the with the question you know, i wasn’t really thinking thinking fully, but it was.
It was hard and that much and and my time you know this is these guys are going through.
I don’t know what they’re going through it’s probably better than what we did um.
I lacked my my potential.
My potential was, it was hurt of me.
Really, you know be becoming.
You know, really really great.
We, you know i was getting ripped.
You know the money.
We wasn’t the business deal all that stuff wasn’t proper um.
We, you know it was.
I was with don king, so i don’t really know.
I don’t really know what i could have accomplished or what what i could have done um because of that um, and i know these guys they’re getting full coverage and stuff they’re getting people they.
We was like don king had guys taking with us and stuff, but these guys just seemed like they’re getting their training and they you know, i couldn’t train, because i was thinking about getting ripped off um these.
I don’t know if these guys, but these guys are training hard and stuff, and i look back and be and upset with myself, because i know that if i were to train hard like been like in shape like holyfield or like tyson, god knows what i could Have done so, you asked me that question and then i just got kind of like got like like kind of not.
I didn’t get confused, but i said how i’m gon na answer that you know kind of like that.
So i really don’t know what it feel like to be champ because i didn’t get paid.
I kind of got that feeling when i won the title.
Oh i’m the champ, but i was thinking about money and being abused.
So so i i you asked me 10.
What did it feel like to be champ? Really? It was lousy.
It was good in terms of the people.
You know that liked me, but in business it was really it was.
It was messed up, so i was robbed from that.
I was robbed from that black glory.
It’S unfortunate that there is that side to boxing that you know you experienced him and, as as time has gone everything good now, though everything you know yeah, you guys you guys went through tons, you guys went through guns, and you know today’s guys don’t have to You know, experience the hardships and you know, trials and tribulations that you guys went through.
So you know it’s that you know of it might be a couple right.
There might be some still.
You know dirty politics and shady dealings going on, but it’s it’s nowhere near what what you experience in your time – and you know in in your career, um also um yeah, so touching, let’s touch on ramirez and uh and and nova before we change the subject.
Huh um so ramirez, you know, 901 five kos has been on a sterling run since the shock loss uh in his august 2019, professional debut an olympic champion in 2012 and 2016.
ramirez is coming off a one-sided victory over the unbeaten orlando gonzalez and irish veteran eric Donovan and then nova 21-0 with 15 kos, who spent much of his career at junior lightweight, has been flawless since moving up to the featherweight ranks born in puerto rico, raised in albany new york.
You know nova knocked out william encarnacion in eight rounds on the smith-gefford undercard in january, so this is.
This is gearing up to be, probably, i think, the best part of the weekend uh also, we got bruce carrington man only winner of our shoe shoe carrington.
Yes, yes, two-time winner knockout of the week three-time winner of the record of the week, his fight, what was it uh january and then again i think it was march um carrington, the only one to you know, win it twice in the year like that and uh Yo he promised us the number three.
So hopefully he comes through with that as he takes on adrian uh leva.
Also on this undercard man, we got jahi tucker, taking on deandre smith, troy eisley, taking on dante’s stubs, and you know we got j.
He brown taking on keane, uh mcmahon, so there’s some great great undercard uh action going on in this event.
Man so guys make sure you check this one out, you’re not going to want to miss it.
Don’T i was training with boots and his three days last week at johannes gym, oh yeah yeah, he came in he pulled in in his big and his big nice.
Looking like truck like him and his dad and um.
I was like what’s up champ and he walked over and came over to tim tim.
What’S going on, you know, so he was training people.
He was training people there.
So i don’t know.
When is he fighting what’s up champ? Where does he fight? What’S up baby? All right, all right when is when this boots and is fighting boots here, is fighting again.
Oh he just he just fought like a couple weeks ago.
So it’s probably a little bit.
No.
I was telling them that i was at johannes gym and um bruce.
Ennis came there like three days: he was training, these police officers and um.
They getting the police officers are getting ready for some kind of tournament, um, so uh three days in a row, you know i seen him working with his pads and stuff and um.
I guess he stays in shape mentally and physically.
You know um he’s going to need it he’s going to need it.
Definitely james welcome we’re just touching on the um welcome james welcome.
What’S going on man, sorry about that yeah yeah! No worries thanks for joining the partner uh.
We were just talking about uh, better, be versus joe smith, jr uh, that card going on, and then we got abraham nova and robisi ramirez on the undercard there uh you wan na you wan na touch on this card.
Before we move on to the next one, i know you came a little late, but uh we’d love to hear your questions on better, be better than smith.
I just wanted to say first first of all, my grandmother’s birthday today, so i can’t stay long and um.
Happy birthday my wife’s, thank you.
I had a.
I got a busy day today, yeah we did so yeah.
Let’S move on to the next.
You know what i’m saying.
So you burn some calories.
You burn some calories.
If you don’t get tim tim to sign up on athletes tv, when i see you in vegas me and you we gon na go a half a second cause.
I’M knocking you out, hey i’ve been going to the gym.
I’Ve been going to the gym.
I’Ve been hitting the hammer, i’ve been doing the ropes i’ve been running on the treadmill.
I’Ve been lifting weights, i’m just coming back a little bit, i’m coming back, i’m doing the same thing.
Yeah i’ve been i’ve been doing that i’ve been going three rounds.
You got to stay fit man just just in case.
Somebody come something something happened.
I get an exhibition, i’m cool i’ll be hitting the heavy bag three rounds.
I’M the same.
What are you talking about tim versus jake, paul, tim versus jake? Paul? You take him out.
Hey i’ll knock him right now.
Yes, you heard of your purse.
You hurry here.
First i’ll, knock him out.
I i wrote someone, hey tim said: bring the money man.
I know exactly what to do to these guys.
I know exactly they get in good shape, though i know what they’re doing they’re in good shape.
You know let them do all the moving around and you just take your little over.
There keep your defense tight.
Let them work, let them get a little close doing.
That dumb something big bang, let them do the movement.
That’S how you save that energy.
You know this [, Music, ], jake paul, would love to fight him.
It’Ll be fun.
Oh my god.
It’Ll be amazing.
Let’S [ Laughter, ] i’ll be hitting the bags everything nice.
How you feel how you feel when you hit the bag? Man, i you know my shoulders, get a little sore.
I think that’s from lifting the weights um, but when i hit the hammer all of it goes away.
I hit the hammer like three minutes and they need to have your hammer so boom.
I know that’ll get me better.
Get me in shape.
That’Ll get me in shape for the other stuff, the treadmill, the heavy bag hitting that hammer they got to get me a heavier one, though you know my breathing.
The reason why the reason why i asked because the reason why i asked was because my dad had stopped hitting the bag a long time when he wouldn’t retire right.
So just shortly before, like a couple years before he passed, he got a heavy bag.
So he told me that he got this bag.
I said, okay, you got the bag, he was like yeah, i hung the bag up and man i started hitting that bag.
I feel good.
I want to come.
He said i want to.
I want to get back in the ring tonight and then after he hit the bag, he got a chip on his shoulder all day.
His wife is like you can’t hit the bag, no more mindy, [ Laughter ].
He was upset about something.
No i’m saying after he got done hitting the back.
That’S how good he felt.
Oh okay, because he had me in the bag and, like you said, the chip on the shoulder walking around feeling like superman after working on the bag.
Right, oh guess what you mean! Yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah after hit the back yeah yeah.
He was ready.
He said he said he felt so good man and uh and he kept the heavy bag up.
He said he used it to to.
You know, get rid of his frustration and uh.
He said his wife didn’t like him having it, though i told him i said i said, forget her, it’s good for you yeah.
Definitely definitely unless, unless it’s, unless it’s hung up in the house on a point where it’s uh, it’s structurally sound and it starts shaking the entire house, you know that could be a problem.
I know what that hammer and the axe does that get you ready for all of that and oh yeah get some music get some music get some water and you can do it so music, the music that you like.
That’S what keeps you moving when i’m on the treadmill.
I got to get music that i like it gets boring afterwards.
The show yeah you got, you got to make your playlists.
You got to keep your playlists going song after song.
I got to work on my legs a little bit more.
I’Ve been working on my upper body.
Now i got to work on lifting and um lifting and then toning, my legs off um, so i’m starting to come along pretty good, i’m down to 253.
I was 260 almost 270 um.
Then when i got sick i lost weight and then i gained it back now.
I’M 250, i step on the scale 252.
So i want to go to the 40s in about 10 days, stay in the 40s.
For about three weeks.
Then try to get to 30, then i’ma stop i’mma stop at 30.
.
If anything jump off, i’m gon na be ready short-term.
Maybe i keep my stuff tight.
I don’t know what to do get through and if you’re getting in jail grab it and pull you and hit you with the hook 64 years younger, i’m 64 years young.
You know, that’s that’s 64 years of knowledge, man! That’S with that experience, knowledge, life, life and boxing yeah.
I’Ve seen a whole lot of stuff.
I ain’t seen enough, but so one of the cards that was going to touch on today, uh is our.
It already happened.
It already took place it’s actually ongoing at the moment, which was the uh the gorman card um.
I don’t know if you guys knew that this one was taking place going on right now at the moment you said yeah because it’s it started at 2 p.
m.
Uh eastern standard time it’s it says it’s still: uh ongoing it’s washroom in boxing nathan, gorman um.
You know this against uh thomas uh.
Still like.
Is he english gorman uh? Yes, i believe so english.
Is he a heavyweight uh, gorman gorman yeah he’s heavyweight division right nathan going stocky guy? I think he has a bald head.
Oh he’s supposed to be pretty tough yeah.
He is he’s a tough cat right headline.
You know headlining this uh this card here uh this one went on um the results guys you’ll be able to find them no problem, uh they’re already on their way.
You know uh gorman, who’s 18 and one with 12 kos faces the heavyweight king of czech republic with economic select, who is 17 and 3 to 13 kos.
This one went underway.
I don’t want to ruin it for you for any of you guys.
I already know the results on this card, but i’m not going to give them away, because i want you guys to go out there and actually watch these fights and uh yeah, and you guys can.
Let me know what you think man this one was big.
Also.
I probably which um honestly is great, plus matty harris.
I will tell you this: we did interview maddie harris uh.
He won he’s now about 3-0 man.
So congratulations to him on his victory, but that’s the only one i’m going to give away on the card because you know what i want all the fans up here to go and i can put the time in to watch these fights you’ll be able to find It anywhere on youtube.
This card is done, go watch it nathan, gorman, thomas sellick.
Under you know, undercard we got draft kelly, peter kramer, great night of fights here.
Man so guys go check this one out for sure appreciate put the time in put the time.
In my screen, i can’t see none of y’all man for sure right back, do do the refresh thing, no problem, so, yes, we do have another card guys getting underway tonight.
This one starts at 9, 00 pm undefeated junior bantamweight, star david l, general uh silar hopes to notch his seventh consecutive knockout in 10.
In this ten round main event tonight against yadar cardoza, very often um come here.
Do you see us now check your mind into settings? Click your mic to the store the friday night.
Talking talking channel fight.
You can find us on any platform too right, mike yeah man we’re on we’re on tons of platforms, we’re on we’re on everything.
Man, twitch twitter, linkedin facebook tune in radio tune.
Radio uh pod beam, spotify we’re on it all man we’re we’re on every platform, we’re out there, [ Music ], that’s right! Yeah man uh this card guys.
I can’t wait for this one.
This is gon na, be a good one.
Tonight, man, some great action man, cellular 21-0, 14 ko’s 20 year old from quintero mexico is one of the country’s dynamic young talents.
He’S not been taking the distance since september 2019, a run that has included stoppage, victories over former world champs, uh champion walters, uh, funetus, uh and long-time contender right now, right, yeah, you know and ricardo bladdoon um.
You know he knocked up la dune in six rounds.
In february, despite latin missing weight by more than five pounds and then wow yeah and cardoza who’s, 26 17 clubs from nicaragua challenged for the wbt light flyweight world title in 2013 and has fought many of this generation’s top lighter weight talents after a two belt losing Skid he’s on a 2-0 he’s on 2-0 in 2022, with a pair of eight-round decisions.
So this is the card for tonight guys uh this one uh.
You know we also have luna who’s 23.
Three and one four kos has won seven straight belts and is looking to avenge one of the losses on her ledger: gonzalez who’s, eight five and two with one knockout from mexico city, defeated luna by a 10-round decision in 2014 non-title affair and since the luna victory.
She has twice challenged for a world title: dropping a 2016 split decision to palmeira for the wba 122 pound strap and a technical decision to long time, wba 130 pound champion hayan michoy in 2017.
last september.
She picked up the wbc intern bantel bantam title uh, with a split decision uh over.
I believe it was from russia and in other streaming action.
Unbeaten junior weight, uh bantamweight louis arjulo, 10-0 to kos or 7ko.
Sorry will take on hector robles, who’s, 11, 5 and 2 with three kos in the eight rounder.
So this is the action for tonight guys.
So you know what get ready for it.
That show starts at 10 or um starts at 9pm.
Okay, the welsh road warrior.
Just texted me and said he might be on in a couple of minutes: okay, excellent we’d love to see dean, williams, man, the welsh road.
He just texted me said he hit it’s 7 30.
What time is it yeah? Let’S hope you try to come on? Definitely so you can just say a couple of things.
I know his wife, probably beating him up, i’m just joking, oh wow.
This is going to be great.
I’M super excited for this uh.
Anything else.
You guys want to touch on man.
We’Ve already touched on um everything that really has to go on for boxing for the weekend.
Nothing man um.
That just said that you know we talked about saying: um, uh lopez, uh, tiffany, lopez, um larry holmes is having a golf tournament there.
It is there’s the welsh warrior.
You scared me.
That’S! What’S up, what’s up champ, what’s up everybody how’s it going dean? How have you been since the last day of the sun awesome awesome, i’m doing really good thanks! Uh! Oh that’s awesome! Nice to meet you! That’S! That’S brilliant uh, much much respect your dad’s great fighter, um watch many of his fights and uh.
Can you hear me? No, we can hear you in here james, okay, okay, okay, okay, because i put my headphones on so i could i could uh.
I could hear it good, but yeah man much respect to uh.
You know haggler big time, that’s great! You you sparked them before, like.
I think it was five of them.
I believe i uh i spot tommy hearns tommy hearns was the one that i got to work with that man.
I would love to start with uh.
You know marvin hagler.
No doubt you know it would have been great experience, but i i’ve been actually uh when i was up in rhode, island i’ve been to where he trained where he started out and everything up and was it brought to mass.
I believe i went up there and i met, but the people were saying that he trained out of this gym and whatnot.
So you know, can you can you talk about? Can you talk about your your experience sparring with tommy earns? How was that see? Well, it was a great i just want to say first, you know respond with this guy right here, two-time everywhere, champ that there anybody can uh not another.
I can remember too much, but if anybody can picture somebody swinging a sledgehammer and hitting you on the head with it, that’s what it’s like, with tim with the right hand, but uh spawn tommy, hearns i’ll, be quite honest with you.
I was in my prime and he was on on the down down spiral while saying that he bought um nate miller, and i was getting ready for that fight, nate miller, a great fighter from philadelphia.
You know in champ right, you know nate and uh, he’s nice and and tommy what i found uh i was just.
I would outwork him.
I would work my job a lot get inside and i wouldn’t let him i kept moving away from his right hand kept moving.
You know to my right like away from his right hand and whatnot, and i went to the body a lot of him to be quite honest, like that was just brutal.
You know um, but it was.
It was just all in all.
It was a great experience to learn the law you know being in there with him and uh.
You know the manny, you know coaching in between rounds and one hour priceless.
You know just really was priceless, but the thing about it.
What i like you know with the the fight coming up like that big fight, that’s going on tomorrow, night, i’m on the joe smith and when i respond with like with them with uh tommy.
It’S all it’s all about timing.
It’S all about timing, and just you know you know like tomorrow, you know big punches.
You know, i believe that whoever you know times the other guy you know, gets the timing down and the other guy is going to land.
You know the big shot you know.
So but uh but yeah it was timing with tommy and uh.
Like i said you know he wasn’t as sharp as he was back in the day and whatnot, but you know i was there.
I was young, i was a young lion, you know the they brought me in man, you brought me in.
He wanted.
You know guys to just keep coming.
You know work him over and get him ready, because you know what in these fights uh, if you’re gon na get ready for a top level fight, you got ta, have top level sparring and and uh.
I wasn’t a punching bag for nobody like lie homes or no punching bag, but the champ right there.
You know tim.
I want to punch you back for nobody’s like i would you know, uh move around and give them the you know the best work.
I could possibly give them, but that’s what you said: amen yeah.
It prepares the you know like the champ right there, like tim, you know, prepares him for the big fight.
So if you have easy spa, uh not gon na get you ready, you know.
So i was just i really appreciated that i was, you know, part of you know beating the ring with these guys and uh and getting ready like you know, so i was like the guy behind the scenes.
You know didn’t see me in the pay-per-view and you know all that stuff, but i was one of those guys like you know what the sparring partners don’t get thanked enough.
The sparring partners are the real ones that that help the champions win.
The fight.
You know the sparring.
The sparring partners are like the the the unsung heroes of the training camp right because they don’t work.
Hey they get paid.
Well, listen, listen! What i’m saying is say if you go through a whole training camp and you don’t spar once are you thinking, you’re gon na be ready for a fight? No, no exactly so.
Those sparring partners are just as important as as anything else for your training camp.
So that’s true.
People like yourself, like you know, like champions, need to to to to make sure to mention your name and and just to to have respect.
I always i always wanted to ask him: what did he do in the movie if you want to, he played who was a rocky four or five? No queen cree, i was in creed yeah.
I was part part of team draggle and uh.
You know i was you know in my mind, but then i’ll never get to watch it i’ma watch it i’m going to send you the scene with the walkout, where you see him too i’ll.
Send you to the show.
Okay.
I know i know exactly the scene where i saw you in that watch.
He was in the ring um like coaching somebody too, or something you know they were picking my brains all the time.
You know uh sylvester, stallone uh, when we before we started shooting started moving around in the ring, and i got a you know got a feel for it and i i jumped in the ring and uh i it was too bouncy.
It was like a wwe.
You know what i’m saying like the rest was, you know for the impact and i told them to tighten it up and whatnot um, but yeah i was, i was giving them.
They were picking my brains all day long.
You know about certain things and uh and i would tell them like for the walkout initially they were doing it um.
They were coming out too fast, and i said you know what we’re in russia right now we’re not in america we fighting in russia, so we take our time, but you know, and if you notice to the wall guard he really kind of takes his time.
You know everything’s real, but before i spoke up – and i said you know uh to the assistant director about that – that the way they were initially gon na do it was just like coming out real fast and i was like it’s just you know.
If i was in someone’s back, you know if you’re in someone’s backyard you might want to come out fast, but if you’re in your hometown, you want to kind of you know, gravitate or off the crowd and get all that energy and use it to your advantage.
You know so you don’t want to miss nothing.
You know so i kind of scroll, everything down and many different ways for any different ways.
You could do it yeah yeah, that’s the one really.
It plays a mental, it’s definitely a mental game.
It’S a move of chess that slow walk, uh, look at tyson fury for his last one right.
It took him what almost 17 minutes to get to the ring for the walk.
I know you know you got to think about something like that, like that’s that that’s a saying that you don’t respect your opponent and it’s mentally screwing, with them b your opponent’s getting cold standing there waiting ready to say that and you’re getting to feed off of All that energy man, which just hypes you up and gets you ready to get in there and just smash people and yeah man that slow walk is a big thing.
Don’T just rush out man just take your time cool right right! It’S a you know that you don’t want to you.
You want to keep it common, there’s a lot of fighters like uh.
That would do that would like to run out um.
Contrary and you know, uh do anybody.
You know any fighters that would like to come out pretty fast to the fights.
Do you guys know anybody is remember anybody it’s up to how you just how they tell you to come out.
You come out.
I never seen nobody really come out real fast, but i’ve seen guys just come straight out, not really seasoned pros, but a lot of the early fighters like one of your fights they come just straight out, but in the yeah an event.
This tactics that yeah um, like what type of jerry did what my slim did it all the time went up, cuts, larry holmes, gloves off, told him to take off.
He didn’t see the hand rats, so he made him slow down on that all different tactics.
It could be a tactic, a weapon, but it all also could be you just coming out.
Yeah you’re gon na be like attack like to make him wait, or you know this and that, but when they come out fast um i’ve never seen a whole lot of people come out fast.
They got regular.
They come out regularly a lot of the young guys.
A lot of the young guys who really don’t know that aspect of the game.
Yet that’s where you’ll catch the the guys who are just hey.
They announced the name and then it’s bang just walk right down the ramp and into the ring and just get in there, and they want to play their music or have a rapper’s, wrap them and look good.
But some of them really don’t know um that it is a tactics that you use too, that you can use this music in the walk out.
Make them wait what tyson fury did right.
He made him.
Wait we made land, we did something to larry holmes man.
He was mad and told slim as long as you black.
Don’T you never come around me again.
He may still live man-made larry cut the gloves off.
Slim made them cut it off because he he deliberately waited so they could put it all on and then went in and said: hey, that’s illegal.
He deliberately did it and you can see if you, if you get the tape of me, fighting larry yeah, you see the prefix you’ll, see where, where larry said that about slim, he said as long as you that’s what he said right right, though right there.
That’S awesome, i think i think the quickest thinking of it now i think the the quickest i’ve see and seen a fighter come out with the mike tyson michael spinks fight.
I think tyson was almost jogging.
You know real fast, but we know we all know what happened there, but i know butch lewis made him, take the raps off uh twice.
I believe he did that again say that again, but butch lewis, who’s uh, you know spins his tournament.
He was punching holes in the walls in the dress room, and then you know when it was time to go so sphinx was was real nervous about it and then, when it’s time to go out he’s just i was at the fight.
I was at the fight.
Wow wow yeah, that’s awesome.
It was atlantic city right, i think so, yeah yeah.
I think i really didn’t see the uppercut hit him, but but it did hit him because he was hurt on the ground.
It didn’t look like he had him um.
If you watch it, it’s kind of funny right right here: um uh, just uh your opinion on uh, abraham nova and ramirez on this uh undercard of uh.
Next, tomorrow night’s fight, you know, do you know these guys? I don’t! I really don’t.
I mean totally wrong.
This is wrong.
I was telling them we need to.
We need to get involved.
There’S a lot of us ding.
Don’T don’t worry i’ll help you guys every day at four mike previews a different, a different um up-and-coming star in the boxing industry every single day.
Five days a week mike, is there at four o’clock giving out the next prospect out there.
So all you do, could you do that? All you got ta do is turn it into nothing, amen, amen.
I got i got, i got the main event, i mean you know, uh the main event with uh joe smith and the russian kid um.
You know i know he’s 37 and whatnot uh, but i’d like to see uh joe smith.
You know go downstairs and, and uh yeah you know, work his job.
Like you know what i like about joe smith too, is he knows how to use his range? You don’t you know he has that nice long reach and he’ll catch you right on the end of those punches, you know, but which kind of leaves him out of reigns for your opponent to retaliate.
So you know he’s very effective with you know, with his time and distance and and uh keeping him on the end of his punches uh, whether he’s going to do that tomorrow, uh, i i if i was him i’d, want to keep that kid on the outside.
For for a minute and uh, and when i could, when i do get inside, i’d, want to work hard to the body and whatnot and uh, you know, because that’s just going to weaken, weaken the big puncture but they’re, both big punches.
You know so i think tomorrow you know hey what do you guys think about that fight tomorrow? Well, what i was saying is that um, i’m going with arthur better, be a by by stoppage, because this guy, i haven’t seen i’ve, seen him, hurt one time in his career and he still got up and finished the fight before it was before the the fight Was supposed to be done? He’S 17 17-0 with 17.
You know uh knockouts, no person has gone the distance with him and he’s the only world champion right now: sporting, a 100 knockout rate, yeah yeah and because and he’s shown that he has a chin because, like i said he got, hurt before and still got up And stopped the guy.
So it’s you know because you you, i don’t.
I don’t know you guys.
You guys already know this.
I don’t say this to you some some guys.
You know they’ll look good, but as soon as they get caught one time, there’s a whole different ball game.
After that right, everybody has a plan, some guys you can catch them and they’re like all right, yeah.
Now, i’m in a fight and i’m coming after you.
So that that’s something you can’t teach – and i don’t know you guys know, i don’t tell you that you guys already know it.
That’S the thing right there where i think joe smith might might fall short.
You know it’s by like having your composure and not letting the guy catch you and then you know, uh, immediately, retaliating and or coming in and fighting his fight.
So if, if joe smith fights his fight and uh, don’t let him get? You know suckered in to like you know, get caught and get tagged and then you’ll want an immediate retaliation but joe smith, being a puncher he’s, probably gon na about that mentality, but he’s gon na you know where he don’t want to do that.
If i was coaching him, you don’t want to do that.
You want to you, want to be moving on your toes sticking and moving and uh try to take this guy deep.
You know joe has a conditioner.
He has experience.
He’S a world champion himself like trying to take this kid deeper, but early rounds are dangerous, uh for any big puncher yeah, you know um.
So if i was joe smith, i’d be like shooting a jab on my toes moving around.
You know engaging as little as possible and if i am it’s going to be and bye-bye yeah, you know smart engagements and the rest of the time moving.
That’S that’s what he’s got yeah you got to move and then you go.
You take this right.
How many boxes a day mentally? Don’T i think, please don’t think that um they concentrate on their jab.
They don’t realize that the jab is the first impression yeah yeah supposed to give you opponent, you got a bell ring.
The jab helps the reset man in the next three rounds or the whole fight jab, and everything else come after that.
So, if you, if you get that educated educated, jab yeah, you know the jab will keep you up to stop you falling in when guys start.
Stop jabbing, they start reaching right away as soon as they start stop jabbing they start reaching, and then you know you’re opening each other.
It’S almost like when i train guys.
I i tell them, like you know, like jiu jitsu, you know, i don’t know if you guys know anything about that.
Yeah, like you know they have the gods.
You know the jiu-jitsu god well, the box says the same thing you know, and you don’t want to be reaching out of your guard.
You want, to kind of you know, hide behind your hands, with the punches you’ve got to keep your feet on you.
You’Ve got to keep you’ve got to keep your feet under you when you’re punching all the step in the jab and and not leaving your feet.
Like you, you know, champ, you know a lot of fighters, they put, you know like the fighters.
You’Ve helped they put they they’re right behind them too far, and you know you you tend to reach, then you can’t step for this, or i always tell my other guys stretching to get with the right hand yeah right, but the jab keeps you up, keeps you.
I’M not saying a lot of guys they’re like why you want us to stay straight up like that.
Well, you know what more or less you know you don’t want to be ducking down, leading with your head or crouching and giving up your height the one that you want to get as much of the as you possibly can.
So we do.
We have different techniques.
Um um um, all of us do have different techniques right and and they work, you know we just keep training, trading, knowledge and stuff, like that.
You know like knees, and i’m sure you got your guys bending these when they push off on the jab and everything um, but like to me, that’s important to try to develop that job.
It might determine um the end.
The fight or game can run away all right turn the camera on james come back and join.
I got you, i got you hold on i’m coming on now, all right.
I i hear you now brother.
I hear you get something i’m gon na have to get you you you yeah, oh both of them.
I got ta, get something to drink.
[, Laughter, ], hurry up, [, Music ], you know uh, you know to do the coaching and whatnot.
We all know that uh, you know the main.
You know the main weapon is the jab.
Like you know, working behind the jab.
You know you got to work in the chat champ.
When i seen you boxing with uh.
I think it was ray mercer.
I know you were jabbing in one now, but you were working behind your jab.
You won that fight.
They robbed you on this fight.
Listen, listen! I’M not just saying this because you’re here right now, i’m not just saying this because you’re here in front of me right now, you need to get ready.
They robbed you they should.
You should have won that fight no 100.
We got you james.
Can you hear us, i i i thank you now there we go there, we go, he thought i won, but he got he got robbed.
He got robbed two times so they gave it to him and he said hey.
They did it to me.
That’S what he said after he said they did me it’s my turn now, that’s two weeks ago is now.
Does he live on this side? Did you live in the states or because i know hagler lived in italy for a little bit, yeah no he’s in the states he’s stateside now: okay, okay, uh uh up in new england or no! I know i don’t think he’s.
I don’t think he’s currently up in new england.
I know he was living up in new england for a while uh but i’ll be there.
Now, i’m not sure where he’s at now, okay how’s, you jim, going brother up there in the corner.
What’S your what’s your name again, that’s cedric! That’S him! Cedric cedric! Are you how’s your gym, going brother, good, very good, very good, we’re still not officially open yet but um.
You know i’m still training my my competitive boxes right now.
One of my bosses hunter lee.
He just came back from an inter international competition where he got second place and the guy he fought in.
The final was a two-time olympian, so you know i’m very proud of him and he’s working hard working.
That’S impressive he’s working towards the 2020 or the next olympics.
It was 24 or 28 which would check the next one.
You tell people with money, they look at it.
Look at this shave.
Look at this, though you can tell people with money.
Look, we got this gray, we got it all.
She got, i’m just living life, man, i’m living life too.
No! No! I know i’m talking to you, i’m sorry he’s just getting back cedric.
I was just saying i would say i was saying see he got this.
No, we got a comment on the side from a guy scrapbook boxing says i i saw you spar ali.
I used to watch you train at split rock gym.
Oh okay, okay, yeah train for um split rock was where down the street from where um linux lewis had trained to uh dean uh he trained at caesars, and we strained that split rock and it was.
It was beautiful.
Oliver mccall, i was well.
I don’t want to say spartan prana because he he uh he he was champ too, but we sparrowed for that me him and bert cooper um, that it was beautiful up in the camp.
So he was talking about um, oh and ali ali spa ali.
I was inspiring partner, but he was sick and i’ma tell everybody.
He was sick before that fight.
He was sick before that he didn’t perform real good.
Something was wrong, so all of them are callers.
Somebody i’ve heard so much about from larry and with yourself and and you know, i got a train uh around oliver and got really close somewhat, not down.
I was in a camp in south florida, the heavyweight factory, i’m sure you heard about it – a lot of fighters, the klitschko’s trained there, vanda holyfield just recently been training there and um.
He was uh training for a fight with uh cedric boswell.
This is uh.
It’S got to be like 10 years ago now and uh and elijah mccall, with their son and and elijah, wanted to work with me and i got to train his uh yeah.
I got to treat elijah for a couple of fights and um yeah.
We work really good together.
Dad, you know was really impressed with with how i was you know what i was doing with the sun and whatnot.
You know.
So it was that’s my connection with uh.
You know so yeah.
You know not many do not many.
Do you know [ Laughter, ], my brother sisters? I don’t know like my little sister once she lose her mind.
You know what i’m saying she goes.
She goes off man i mean.
I mean i meant to say that when we gave the interview today to uh, what’s your name uh, what’s up mia yeah yeah, because he said it’s the same thing, my sister was the same way.
It was no go and eat, it was not going easy.
I remember i put my i put my sister in there with my cousin’s friend.
I said: listen, take it easy on her.
You know we kids right, so he said yeah, okay, man.
I ring the bell.
My sister beat that boy up, i mean bloody, know everything the boy either she’s gon na fight or she’s, not gon na fight and then my other, my other little sister, the baby one she’ll fight like hell until she gets hit and she’ll want no more.
My brothers are like that too.
They don’t like they don’t mind, beating you up, but they don’t like getting hit.
Well, then, you got ta, learn man because yo in boxing you get hit as well as hitting man, it’s the wrong sport to be, and if you don’t like to get hit, i know they hey.
That’S why they’re not fighting! They want nothing to do with they’re, like nah my brother, that’s next to me at age he was boxing, he was out there and now he was in uh new jersey and he stepped in the ring and he sparred.
He said i got hit real good man and i just took the glove off and left the ring and never came back.
I’M gon na answer a question for uh scrapbook boxing who’s laying in comments.
Yes, this is marvelous marvin, hagler’s son.
This is james, hagler uh, james uh.
We got people just commenting, they want to know who you were just letting them know there you go.
So let me ask you, let me ask you watch the reality.
Show it’s going to be dope.
Celebrity maker of the champion boxing show this new reality series.
That’S right, man.
We need to do some good fight.
Well, we got.
We got a line up, that’s going to shock the world baby.
Oh, we got we, we got fighters that are gon na, just dump their all into every match that they get in, which is gon na make for excellent combat, and we are gon na crown two winners, male and female, and you know it’s gon na be held At the championships can be held at the mgm so be on the lookout for this reality series man it’s coming soon, yeah we got, we got, you know we got tim from gon na be training in there.
You know he’s gon na be teaching everybody defense.
You know dope man, you get your degree and it’s over i’m offense, but hey i’m bothered already, but we’re [ Laughter, ].
Everybody want to imitate um certain movements.
Yeah like this, you know all like you put the lean forward, because when one punches me you can counter you lean back you’re gon na get hit with this punch.
They keep leaning back and you’re gon na get right right.
I told my son now my son was not going to do that when he first started.
He wanted to do that.
I was like yo lean out alone.
Man, you ain’t going about that, like people could do that.
All these certain people could do it and get away with it.
Like ken knowing keno was the only there’s a lot of people in philly.
Did it a lot of people in philly did yeah, but but you know, what’s the best at it: um yeah yeah.
Do you know what i got to say this uh, you know spawn uh the champ right there tim with this moon, yeah, unbelievable, like big guy right, but super hard to hit super super hard to have so i hit him clean.
I mean i’ve spotted so many rounds to them ridiculous, but oh, my god, like you, make you miss like i i’d, have an easier time spawn like you know: middleweight live heavyweight whatever, but for a heavyweight to have that good of defense.
I’Ve been in the ring with lie: homes.
I’Ve been in the ring with a lot of top fighters, uh top heavyweight someone now um, but tim was the toughest to hit clean yeah, and you wouldn’t you, wouldn’t you know you know two ways about it.
Like you know, but uh, but i asked her to go downstairs to the body on the yeah.
Look this all you got ta do is take it lay it across your stomach and when the body shut, come lean in this way and lean in that way.
A lot of people have it up there or here, and they have it twisted, lay it across your stomach and when the body shot come, tell them to move your whole body down and catch the body shot and move this way and the glove the glove is Going to hit, where your hand is so you forget about the body shots, i lay that arm across there.
You got everybody lock their hand up like this.
Just let it cross stomach and put your elbow on top and when the body shots come, don’t worry about.
It just lean that way mean that ups here worry about this, the body shots are taken care of, but there’s a lot of trouble.
You know, that’s the thing, though, out here supposed to be right here.
This handles will be on top of there body shots like that.
Okay, you just got ta worry about upstairs.
It’S easy, just lay your arm across there you’ll catch your protection, that’s where that shows.
That shows well we’re about upstairs the left, shoulder and right hand.
If you want to do that, one put this on top like that boom, you catch your hand, put your hand behind that glove.
You can catch a one, two one two throw hook right over top stuff like that, so that i’m going over to uh i’m going over to get me a drink.
Y’All made me start drinking yo james, i’m gon na go get a drink.
So honestly, um we’re gon na sign off in a minute, so you can go get into the game.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir, thank you nice to meet you james, nice to meet you cedric! God bless you mother.
Yes, what you doing mike! What was that? Yes, i have to block because we’re not sponsored, we can’t show them.
Oh there you go, you know i got minecraft, you know what i mean, i’m getting ready to go to the store, [ Laughter, ] i’ll talk to you i’ll talk to you later.
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