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EPISODE: Episode 6
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Transcribed:
[, Music, ], hello, they’re talking tonight, fans once again for joining us here, thanks again for joining us once again.
On the friday night panel at natalie in the house, i got mike, we got a few other guests, uh ready and willing to join us at their own peril um.
So i think what are we gon na? Do we’re gon na start off with a little hello from each of you and we’ll bounce right into some upcoming fights and some stories that we’ve all got to share, i’m sure yeah.
I want to talk about josh taylor, but i’ll i’ll.
Let you guys go first.
I want i want josh taylor, okay, what up fans it’s my car knocking a lot what’s up natalie? What’S up, graham, we got lots to talk about today, man for sure.
How are you guys doing um we’re going to talk about big blue? No first, i want to talk about bill haney being denied entrance for a 30 year old drug charge.
How are we doing? That’Ll that’ll still stick, that’s for sure.
Yeah 30 years, man 30 years come on david.
They didn’t let mike tyson in, but they pulled some strings afterwards and then he was allowed.
Well, that’s what i’m saying so.
He ain’t mike tyson, no [, Laughter, ]! That’S what that’s all i’m saying right.
It’S like he has a felony that dates back to a federal drug conviction that he served time on from 1992.
yeah, so yeah.
So is this.
Is this? What is this one, the prison stories, your talk, yeah? Well, why not right any conviction you had where you searched one or more years it stops you from getting into the country.
So it’s unfortunate, i guess uh he needed some sort of.
I guess he needs to apply for a pardon right, yeah, which you know: hey y’all, it’s sugar, um back here on a friday night with the with my guys, uh, michael orr and graeme, and it’s always a pleasure.
And yes, i’m just jumping in on this, because you know what this is really not um outrageous and it’s it’s not something unusual that happens in in the industry and in boxing and the thing about it is sometimes this thing catches you at the last minute right At the airport, you know they deny you and you’re stuck and you’re on the plane by yourself, like haney, would be uh 20 hour.
Looking forward to what what 20 hour lonely ass trip without his trainer and they’re trying to make calls to see who’s going to corner him when he gets there, you know what i’m saying that that’s the anxieties of fighting and dealing with this stuff.
I mean these charges stick and the industry.
You know we not we’re not selling girl scout cookies.
You know this is this: is an industry of people who fight and and who have that background of being entangled in things, so i mean yeah, it’s 30 years old, but it’s stuck.
It’S stuck like, like barbecue, sauce and you’re gon na have to you know to get your get your papers right when you’re in this industry now, especially traveling internationally.
So you don’t have these hang-ups carl w comes in.
Where is the james bond outfit? What is he expecting who’s supposed to be wearing the james bond? Is that you graham what tell me what you’re supposed to yeah hey? We got something how’s, the speaking of big and bad.
Did you big bad? The gym was pretty cool, i’m you know, i’m sorry guys.
I know y’all was talking, i’m gon na interrupt but um i reached.
I reached 140 pounds because i was 251 yesterday um, so i got real good.
We rushing around.
I try to get greg towns greg towns for his business has to uh have higher tuesday and he can’t come on he’s trying to get you.
Workers he’s upset because he’s drinking and all that so from the gym and make a move.
I’M glad to be here especially to see this beautiful young lady here [ Music, ], [, Laughter ], so you know so so i’ve been training every day.
I just want to get healthy, stay healthy and keep working out, and so i’m feeling better.
I’M gon na keep on doing it.
Oh, that’s! Fantastic! I’Ll get a little drink once in a while, though yeah well, you got ta live a little bit, yeah yep! So so guys we were supposed to see uh parker versus andrade uh this weekend, but uh.
Unfortunately, uh that’s not gon na go on uh due to andrade uh suffering, uh, shoulder injury and training.
So that’s been postponed yeah that was uh.
That was going to be good man.
It was going to be park, stadium, home of the derby county football club uh.
They were supposed to stage the wbo intern super middleweight world title clash between parker and the unbeaten two-weight world champ andrade um.
It would be a huge occasion for the knockout unders parker at the city of derby uh, because it’s been a lifelong uh he’s been a lifelong fan of the rams and uh.
It was his dream to live out fighting on the pitch of his local football club.
Uh, because the club is actually in financial struggles, this season, uh being well known, some queensberry promotions knew they were.
There was uh responsibility to help, so they were donating 10 pounds of every ticket sold to go directly back to the club, our future of the club uh since team meet up with frank, warren and queensberry.
You know the 27 year olds has clocked up three spectacular and empathetic wins to reinforce his position as the number one contender.
So all right is that football is that football queensberry rule.
I know that’s england is that football right yeah, so they were supposed to fight on the pitch.
It’S not happening.
Andre’S got an injury.
His postpone would have been a great fight to watch this weekend.
It’S not happening, but on the other hand, we still get to see joshua abuazi uh, take on the former world title challenger, craig richards in that huge all london light heavyweight clash; uh, that’s saturday and that’ll be uh two o’clock eastern for us.
Okay, let’s go yes guys.
I don’t know if you put before you continue mike.
I i if hang on mike mike, can i interrupt my second yes? Yes, last week when we were on and we we had natalie on the show, uh tim was in uh.
Oh, it was sunny world what yeah, so i just wanted to.
I just i just wanted to make sure you two know.
Each other and you’ve been introduced.
Tim and natalie natalie tim you’ve been introduced.
I didn’t know if you introduced you last week, what’d, you say i said, call me sugar, oh sugar, okay, okay, i was, i was um.
I was at ringside.
Was that the the kanto fight mate yeah? Did you did you? Let them know that we awarded him.
The knockout of the week well, i i emailed him i emailed his dad, oh my emailed his dad and said that i’m sure we can get him one in the future.
Hopefully this don’t get too big where he won’t do a little podcast.
You know doing them.
Little podcasts and showing that you’re a real champ you’ll come in and do it and do something with with with a company like this um and other companies.
You know real champs to do that.
They’Ll pop up every once in a while, unless you floyd, mayweather [ Laughter ], i want to i want to tell before we even talk to you about uh on the boats card uh, we do have a card going on tonight.
Um.
I don’t know if you guys know: fenlong meng is taking on john pascal uh.
That’S the headliner, that’s put on by pro box tv uh, the first and only global sports streaming and media company on pascal yeah, so contender feng long, meng, who’s, 17-0.
Right now, with 10 ko’s and former two-time world champ wow who’s 35 6-1 uh they meet in a 12-round 175-pound division in the co-feature uh you uh was it zoo, ken uh, 18 and three is making his highly anticipated return against rugged mexican warrior brandon bennetts who’s.
Eighteen, two and seven in the ten round boat, um magno a lot uh this guy’s uh.
You know it’s pretty big man he’s uh 34 southpaw he’s been craving for a meaningful challenge.
He made his professional debut back in 2015 uh following a decorated energy career, where he represented china in the 2012 olympics since sunny has captured two regional titles, wbo uh oriental and the ibf intercontinental light heavyweight titles uh, the native of shifang city, china, is eager to Set up this opposition in order to put himself in line for a world title in order to do so he’s going to have to take on the toughest most dangerous test of his career against former world champion john pascal right.
How busy has john pascal been not not not super busy like uh? His last fight out was um against badoo jack, and that was back in 2019.
yeah.
It’S it’s been a couple years.
No, i mean they’re getting them cold yeah.
You know, like i’m sorry, you know the numbers and i know the game and i don’t think it’s fair to get a name such as john pascal cold, to try to make a statement, and i see what they’re trying to do, and i mean this contender.
He has some pretty good accolades there, but it’s easy last time he fought was october 29th last year, so he’s been in the ring he’s still warmer than jean pascal exactly right.
So i mean i, i think i being someone who you know i i’ve been in there.
I know what this game feels like and what it is.
You know i i hate when matchmakers or i hate when the game does this, where they’ll take a name who has been in hiatus or on ice cold, and then they bring them out to try to make a statement against someone who you know it that they’re Trying to build this way, i think you know fairly matched contenders are out there for this guy and now to to okay, you brought a cold john pascal out to fight him to put his name on your resume.
You know i i just i i i i’m not that’s the way the game is.
You know, honestly, though we do know this, though uh pascal uh has hired a new veteran boxing trainer, and that’s orlando cellular uh he’s been selected by him um and he’s his new chief chief second for may 20th uh in this 12-round event, so it was for May 12! So it’s for this weekend, i wonder how long i mean how long it’s been going on, because you know even even in getting a new chief and then getting new training, and all of this you you got to get used to that man.
You know you got to you got to get used to what the he’s coming back to the corner and saying to you when the lights are on, because it’s different in camp, it’s different when you’re getting ready right, it’s different! Now, when you get that shot and [ __ ], i was cold and now you’re you’re really feeling the intensity of now you’re back on that trainer or that coach that you go back to the corner has to also have that intuition for you in in knowing How you, as a fighter, will respond in these situation or in such a situation.
So i i just see yes, you know we can make these announcements and i got the new and this guy i was working with.
But how is it coming together and is it coming together for him to really make a good showing – and i guess we’ll see – i guess – we’ll see in a couple of hours, because that card starts at nine o’clock.
So it’s getting underweight tonight, so we’re gon na see we’re gon na see how good it is he’s supposed to be ready, he’s gon na be ready.
That’S what boxing is all about: um, whatever situation, um that that is put in front of him.
He should be ready some people, some boxers um, don’t have like the backup and uh consistency and they fall short, but you’re supposed to be ready.
You push to be in shape, you push to be mentally ready, whatever they put in front of you and your training is supposed to be equipped to help support you and what you want to do and and and be victorious.
So you got to be ready.
All the time that’s what the game is about.
I hear what you’re saying tim i and i do i mean that’s just the motto right.
I understand that as well, but i think when you’ve earned enough stripes in the game that you should have a bit, you should have enough respect um out of the game for people not to try to get over on you in such a way right.
So this is what happens and i know that’s the industry and i know you’re supposed to be ready but put some respect on my name.
That’S all i’m saying right.
Don’T try to get me cold, don’t try to prove how bad you are off of a cold.
Jean pascal or off of a cold sugar, you know get me out, get me, let me get warm, let me get, let me start boiling in the grease.
You know what i’m saying like get it easier fight first and then work your way up.
Is that what you mean like what i’m saying is this build the blocks? What i’m saying is this, and maybe this is pascal – this is supposed to be pascal’s management decision, but in order i mean to take on now such uh um to take on such a task.
I feel that maybe he should have had a warm-up before something like this yeah, so he can understand who he is because tim – and i know you know this – maybe i know you know it.
Okay, he ain’t the same fighter.
He was in 2019.
He got to get to know himself.
He got to get to know who he is in 2022 right.
So when opposition stands in front of you and i’ve, i’ve experienced this where you know your responses are not the responses.
You even know yourself to have right, and so you got to respect the game and respect yourself enough now to understand that and to make better decisions.
Yes, you got to be ready, but in order to know that you’re ready right, you should be allowed to put yourself to the test.
That’S all i’m saying! Well, that’s it like.
Would you like, like get, maybe get a warm-up fight or i have i mean if i was his management team, i would have been oh yeah.
Okay, let’s see what you’re saying yeah, he hasn’t been in the race.
Yeah 2019.
You warm up face to face.
Listen! He supposed to be ready, so let’s give him the one.
Let’S get, let’s say one right shout out to my sister and nephew who are watching us right now.
Look at that.
My sister nephew are watching commenting inside.
So what i’m saying is? Okay, you know it’s! It’S not i’m not making this box, i’m not making boxing powder puff now i’m not making boxing powder pop.
But what i’m saying is you know um giving you’ve you’re john pascal you’re, not joe blow right, give yourself at least one warm up to see if you’re, the john pascal, that you remember yourself to be.
That’S all i’m saying: that’s all i’m saying so the promoters and the managers, just you saying, just want to put them right in there that i mean that’s what i see.
Okay, that’s what i see they don’t care about them.
That’S what it looks like that’s what it looks like.
I think that they care about his name more than maybe pascal just thinks he’s gon na come through and wreck this guy, and i mean we all do right.
Skills.
Fang long is a big chinese guy.
Man he’s a big chinese fighter, he’s huge got heavy hands, it is a test.
It’S a test.
Are you talking about that big child? I just was looking at him the other day.
What do you think? What do you think about other action in uh, some warm-ups? What do you think of him timmy? I think that they yeah they should they should um.
Maybe maybe they got something going on with that, their chinese guy or you know, or else they should make sure that pasquel is, is ready.
At least you have a good show and that guy is big yeah he is big.
I just seen he was, i think he threw the guy down or something move him down, throw him on the ground.
Like three days ago, him fighting he’s a physical fighter.
He’S like six eleven right, wow uh he’s he’s up there in the sixes.
They must got a piece of him.
They must got a piece of him all.
I know.
Listen to you know the okie doke.
You know when the fix is in.
Oh god, that’s all.
I got to say [ Laughter, ], let’s catch up, let’s touch on bowati and richards.
We got this one.
I know you’re liking this one graham you’re waiting for this.
This is uh.
This is a big one.
We got joshua bowati, we’ll face former world title challenger, craig richards in a huge old london light heavyweight clash, uh this one’s saturday at 2 p.
m.
Uh bowati and oh 13.
Ko scored his 10th round knockout in a row when he stopped latvia’s richard malotniks in the 11th round of their wba lightweight uh, light heavyweight title eliminator on the third and final week of matchroom fight camp in august um, the 20-yard the 29 year old, is set To face russia’s former world title challenger maxim: vlasive on the undercard of joseph parker’s rematch, with derek jezora at the ao arena in december before suffering.
So crystal palace, former british light heavyweight champion, richards who’s 17 two and one with 10 kos put on the spirited display.
As he pushed the wba light heavyweight world champion, dimitri bible, all the way in his first world title attempt in may of 2021, so these two guys are coming together.
Uh, it’s gon na be a huge night um.
You know the light heavyweight scene in the country in in their country is thriving and honestly, both these guys are up there.
Man in in that, and definitely it’s going to be a big one.
Uh on that undercard we also have alan babich has taken on adam balsky and uh robbie davies.
Jr is uh fighting for the wba continental super light title against javier molina.
I heard that name before and we got chantel cameron taking on victoria.
I was waiting for you to say something like that taking on taking on bustos and we got police scotty.
At least scotty is in action as well uh taking on marie roman okay um, and this is another female bout uh.
This, the yeah there’s two female votes on this card: ellie maria roman and chantelle cameron and bustos uh cameron – is fighting for the wbc and ibf world female super light title fighting now.
I wanted to say something about this uh match right because i mean i’m i’m here to talk women, i’m here to talk about the women’s boxing right.
So that’s good, that’s beautiful! It is yeah.
Thank you, timothy.
You guys make me feel so good, so um this here, um this match with chantel cameron is something that now has been put together to salvage.
What has happened from that tournament? I’M not sure if you guys were aware, but there was a junior welterweight tournament um down in in uh earlier in the year.
I earlier i mean sorry later in 2001, around december um, where it was mary, mcgee um who fought chantal cameron for um.
What did she put her ibf belt on the line? I believe it was and cameron put her belt on the line and then uh, cali, reyes and jessica kamara fought the other and the winners of both matches were supposed to come together to do a unification match right and so conveniently now, um after cali reeves got Her ass handed to her by jessica camara in the bout she has become unavailable to take the match on with um, tell cameron.
Now i think it’s quite commendable for mary mcgee to have put her life, because you are only as good as your last fight and she was the champion and that title was her life.
That was her bread.
That was her way of making money and she put that title on the line to fight cameron.
Thinking that now callie reyes would do you know, do her part in fighting jessica camara and then somehow you know the the the parts would come together and everybody would get some bread and be able to eat and feed their family right.
So now i got to call a punk, a punk right because yeah i said it when you become when you, when you start talking about you to champion stuff.
But yet you now, you unavailable when people call in your name and they on the porch knocking on your door right uh.
We we got to really talk about um.
Who is the champ right so now, because um cali rays won’t step up to the challenge and she somehow disappeared off the radar uh chantal cameron has had to scramble her and her people to uh number one find her uh fight, so she can stay relevant and Um busy right and then um give her a legitimate opponent because she has to grow right.
I see chantel cameron as being one of the contenders in junior welterweight to look out for um it’s getting hot in the welterweight division.
You know uh katie, taylor uh, i’m i’m hearing that she might even step up to 140, but i mean who that’s? That’S.
You know, that’s uh sweet talk, you know and you you guys know how i feel about sweet talk.
I like foreplay much better right.
Um.
Don’T yeah, don’t don’t uh threaten me with a good time.
You know pretty let let’s do it so um at this point with uh chantelle cameron versus victoria bussos bustos is a name um.
She has some great experience behind her.
She has been champion so she has some good, legitimate quality rounds with some good opposition under the lights and i’m looking forward to how she performs in this in this fight, definitely you’re, not from america.
You got a little uh.
Is it sneaking out you, canadian, canadian uh i’ve lived in canada for some time i’ve lived in america in the u.
s for some time i was actually the um.
My background is from the united states, so i was uh several time u.
s national champion as an amateur.
I was on the um olympic team.
What is your full name? Natalie brown? That’S my full name yup.
So i i was, i was an amateur in the states and then um it around in in the early 2000s, and then i moved to canada and i tried to fight out of canada and because of my highly accomplished amateur background, i was ranked two in the World twice, i fought for two different countries, my my family’s country, jamaica and the u.
s yeah.
So i i’ve you know.
I’Ve made quite a name for myself in the amateurs.
It was tough, getting fights as a pro, because when you get to the pros, you know it’s, it’s really.
Who is brave enough to to step to the challenge so um that that is my background.
I never got the opportunity to you, know: fight for a belt and um the quality opposition that i was calling out um they they never gave me the chance.
So now i’m back to speak on it because that’s how they um that’s how they choke a lot of great talent and contenders in women’s boxing, and i want you men to know and talk about it.
So we can hold these broads up to the same standards as the men right.
They talk and chirp about wanting the same pay, but they don’t want to take the same chances and that’s all i got to say about that.
Okay, i hate you.
Okay, uh.
Another card i’m looking forward to guys it’s got to be the zanavac allen, cannuli and danny digman card, a sweet, p3 yeah.
Look me up baby, i’m out there, that’s my sister! That’S my sister.
Do you have something middleweight, contender, genevic kazakh style, allen, canoeing i’ve been anxiously waiting for this main event, spotlight um and he hopes to seize that moment.
Uh alum canole will face undefeated, englishman, danny dignam in a 12-round showdown for the vacant.
Wbo intern middleweight world title um in the co-feature we got former world junior champ jamal herring returns to lightweight division at 10, rounder against the napf title holder, jermaine, the technician, ortiz um honestly alum canoei i’ve profiled this guy way back 11-0 with seven kos.
He is the 2016 uh.
You know an olympian who has been on the fast track to a world title shot ever since knocking out 50 fight veteran milton nunez in his pro debut uh, the south spot, then racked up eight additional wins before scoring eight-round stoppages uh over former world champs rob Brent uh hassan, the nadem, and despite only eleven fights allen, canoe has become an actively avoided fighter within his division and several recognizable names at 160.
Pounds choose other options when opportunity knocked when he came when he came looking for the fights uh, you know with a shot at the interim title, he’ll finally get his chance on the main event stage, which he’s been wanting um.
He said in quote: demetrius andre jamie mangia, both avoided fighting me, so he gave danny dignim a lot of credit for stepping up to the plate.
He says i will show the entire world what true kha’zix style is.
I will leave the ring as the wbo interim middleweight champion, while the division’s top names are avoiding me, they won’t be able to run forever.
I can’t wait to put on a spectacular showing big words from this guy um.
He better perform tonight.
Like he’s saying uh, you know saying that these guys in the top end, are avoiding them.
I have watched them.
The guy does have some really heavy hands.
Honestly uh, you guys he’s definitely a force to be reckoned with in that division.
Man of 160.
uh.
You know kazakhstan, who knew right they’re coming out of nowhere.
They’Ve got a few.
What are you talking about out of nowhere, because that could stand been that place kakistan right yeah ever since it’s joe haynes again? No, no, there’s! Alright! That’S over there, where costa, zoo from costa zoo or uzbekistan – oh, it’s, pakistan! Oh uzbekistan, [ Laughter, ], y’all, put my worst day at the office me versus mccaskill.
Get put me up, but put me about a link up there now you’re going to put the one fight that sugar ain’t show up.
In put me a better link up there.
Honestly, you want to see sugar in action.
We got two prospects here that i profiled that i’ve been telling you guys to watch out for man, casir, goldstein and duke reagan, and delonte johnson are all on this card.
Guys watch out for these guys.
Okay, there are five fights in under they’re all undefeated they’re.
The young hungry up-and-comers in their weight classes, man, so casir he’s super light, feather duke reagan, and we got delonte johnson welterweight.
I just profiled all these guys.
We’Ve interviewed two two of them: we’ve had them on so be on the lookout for these kids man.
They are young up and comers in the game names you will be hearing for the next 10 years, see my this the thing about me and you with this up and coming and all of that stuff: okay, um the thing about it is and we’re gon na All talk right, um this this pro boxing game is for men and men that wear the big pants that wear the pants and the women that wear the big bridges.
Okay, now you don’t know how big your britches are, and you don’t know how big your pants are until you get 10 plus in the game, fight wise right, because they stacking them and body bags are um a dime a dozen.
Nowadays it used to be um back in the day where you know you had to really look out and because somebody will clip you right.
Boxing was re.
What was really real back then? So when you went into a boxing gym, somebody was going to teach you enough to give you a fighting chance right now.
These people are making a career of becoming opponents they’re doing they’re they’re jumping in for a buck.
They know their role right.
They did that before they did that before too right.
So, but what i’m saying is before now tell me timothy to me.
The opposition, before still have a bit of a chance, still had a bit more skill.
Now these guys are coming in, and you know they just have to me.
They just have better outfits that they had um than the opposition had before.
You know what i’m saying you’re, not talking about opponents you’re talking about i’m talking about the opponents.
Now i’m talking about opposite, i’m talking about opponents, people who are hired to be opponents.
Okay, i know okay yeah, i know for sure top rank right now is out there and they pay they’ll pay uh.
They pay david.
Somebody mama to jump in liam muhammad say: you’re good, it’s one of those one.
Real, quick and casino.
Both signed the top rank.
Well, real, quick leon.
Muhammad he’ll, get you anybody from anywhere he’s he’s got a bob aaron.
All of them call liam muhammad up and he’ll get you where you want, and mostly most of their opponents, be from the southern part of the united states down south north carolina all the way down there uh, but since abandoned holyfield and a lot of the other Guys from down southern down south they’ve been they’ve, been bringing a lot of attention.
Um there’s a lot of good trainers down there now and all that, but but um those opponents, man, those opponents we was getting from down south all you got ta do is call leon and he’ll get him hello.
Now now we too now we’re talking right, because that’s what i know right and they they called it the chitlin circuit.
So when you’re first time yeah that’s the first time you ever heard that they used to call me a chitlin fighter when i was younger.
Yes, sir, i had to, i had to show them who what the south was really about, because i was out of georgia.
I was out there right.
I was an amateur out of georgia, so um they called me a chitlin fighter, and i had to show my my worth as a a real legitimate fighter and contender out here.
So now you know now they’re flying opposite opponents in they’re flying them in from mexico.
Hungary, you know all of these places where people just they they want a good payday and now, i know for sure top rank pays opponent.
Opponents very well – and so mike mentioned, that both of these contenders are signed with both these problems.
They got signed out the game like right off the bat they were both signed by top rank top rank ended up signing almost every olympian that year yeah, so top rank is doing a filtering right now, so top rank whoever lose.
Whoever goes from this match is done, with top rank they’re not going to keep them around and what are they using they’re using for opponents and stuff? Let’S talk, oh my gosh they’ll send us a candy.
They put them all against each other.
You know what you’re saying sugar huh yeah, i’m kind of jealous, like you know against each other and kick the loser out.
That’S the filter, russell peltz out of philadelphia.
He didn’t let no opponents come.
He gave you hard fights.
You heard of russell peltz right.
Yes, russell peltz out of philly a lot of guys didn’t like that.
I’M not saying they didn’t like the fight for for russell peltz, but he didn’t get no opponents.
He matched everybody up the same.
Really he was the only guy doing it.
He was the only guy doing it that i know of um johann.
You know johan.
You heard of johann right, they’re, all together and um um, but all those other guys was finding opponents and stuff like that, but russell peltz.
Wouldn’T he wouldn’t do you had to fight somebody? Yes, yeah.
Look russell bell’s up mike.
I i know about.
I know about it.
Oh you know, like you, know, russell peltz, right yeah.
I know about that.
Well, i seen him at the sunny, kanto fight and you know – and i was talking to my saying, hi and stuff, but he don’t play that opponent stuff.
He don’t play that.
He you got to fight or ain’t going to be no fight, that’s right and that’s what keeps the game re alive right because other than that, what do we turn into wwe but wait? But i like the process, though i know we talked.
I know you talking about that.
We need those opponents, we do definitely need the building blocks, so the real top guy could get to the big championship.
Fights we that’s.
No everybody.
Everybody know what it is, the guy that’s undefeated.
He know what that opponent is supposed to do you know.
So if you want to try to change it, i guess we would have to change it um, no, no timothy! I don’t think it should be anything about the changing it.
What i’m saying is it’s i’m with you, i’m with you, but i’m just saying yeah, i’m with you on it.
I just think right now, it’s too obvious where they’re calling oh, i need.
I need somebody for.
I need to get on this card and i want to be on the a side.
It’S so obvious.
It’S normal! It’S so obvious! It’S normal! Now like like sonny canto.
I hate to cut you off, but sonny canto knew that that guy wasn’t there to beat him.
He knew that he was there to knock that guy out right.
So you that’s the way it is yeah.
It’S what you call it’s, what you call a showcasing, not a step up or not a challenge.
Well, let’s don’t use that yeah.
Let’S go ahead.
Go ahead! We don’t get the best out of a fighter when they don’t have that it’s it’s a part of the hunger.
It’S a part of staying hungry right because if you know that there’s a reserved seat for you at the top, you you ain’t going to work as hard you’re not going to want to stay as thirsty.
You know what i’m saying.
If you know you, oh i’m supposed to knock this person out, um you cruising in i i want that fighter to be just as on edge and just as nervous that this might be.
This might be my last fight right.
That’S how we get the best out of of a fighter, because in the beginning, yeah in the beginning is normal, but as you go up the step, the opponent gets harder and harder, and it’s kind of like a normal thing.
Everybody expects some stuff like that to happen.
Oh, i know i’m not an easy guy.
I know i’m gon na get another easy guy.
Then the promoter number’s gon na get harder fights to test you to get you ready for the big one.
He can’t give you your ducks.
He can’t keep giving you ducks that’s right now, as you guys can go, you got to put harder ones in and harder ones in, but safe hard ones, save harder ones tests right.
So that’s why i’m saying after 10 fights all right i’ma give you the benefit of the doubt and let’s be okay, you get built up to 10.
You have been tested up to 10.
after 10.
All bets are off baby.
I want to see what you got right, how do you, how are you going to extend yourself, show me why you are going to be the champion? Why should i still pay attention? I think i think that there’s a lot of big money and they still gon na look out for him into that big fight.
They still gon na look out for him.
In my opinion, for that big fight yeah i did i bought it.
Undefeated i for the undefeated guy, my my third fight, my seventh fight.
I filmed i found a rat lift was 14-0.
I was 13, you know and started out early but wow, but didn’t no.
It did.
I bought it to the test 14-0 and 13-0 right.
So the intensity of that match up is 1902.
, my goodness like these 302 three.
No, they throw you in with the killers.
That’S right! No, they knew i could beat the guy who was undefeated, but he wasn’t he.
He was he.
He gave me a little work, but i put him out.
He was in my third fight.
They wasn’t going to get me a real good, undefeated guy.
Listen.
They know how to get undefeated guys that really not up the par yeah undefeated yeah mike, can knock him out.
I want to see what kind of talents might god it may not be in the ring, but i know he got so: okay.
Okay, if i, if i can interject, can i interject your conversation with something it bring.
It brings to mind two examples that i’ve been thinking.
I’Ve been reporting on this week.
One is the david benavidez fight against david lemieux, uh benavidez, i believe, is 25-0, but the guy who’s calling him out the guy who’s, calling him out david morrell jr is six and oh.
So it’s kind of funny now.
The other thing that i wanted to talk about was actually josh taylor and, although he laughed that big mike, i mean this is pretty serious.
The wba stripped him of his title yeah, because he wouldn’t fight that paulo or whatever his name was right.
Where is he england, josh josh taylor yeah? I think he’s from scotland.
Actually, okay, scotland fighter he’s a good he’s, a top ten he’s, the top ten top ten pounders yeah yeah.
He beat uh jack catarrhal.
The englishman last time out it was a you know.
Controversial decision, but nonetheless he won and uh, so he basically turned down the wba’s uh offer to fight they’re mandatory, which was some unknown guy um anyway.
So so very recently, he’s now been tasked to fight me.
The wbc offered him a zapita.
Is it zapita? Is that his name mike anyway so now he’s got this massive yeah, so he’s got he’s got, and i think it’s because if they’re both top ranked, if i’m not mistaken, so so, there’s a very interesting controversy, uh surrounding josh taylor – and i i think he has To move out of the division uh, i’m pretty sure i mean i haven’t – got this, i’m pretty sure, okay any anyway.
I just want to bring that up because it ties into what you’ve you’ve been saying about: uh matchups and on one hand, you’ve got uh benavidez who’s, 25 and 0.
, and if he does beat david lamia uh, you know who’s he going to fight next that you Know he’s got his own ideas, but this david morrell chap from cuba comes in and says: well, i’m 6-0 i’m ready to fight david benavidez yeah anyway.
Anyway, i didn’t mean to stop didn’t mean to stop the flow of conversation.
Because, honestly, you know what yeah this.
This car, this car is pretty good man, you know it’s unbeaten two-time world champ and phoenix david david benavidez uh.
You know he’s gon na throw the crowd and he’s taking on.
You know it is what it is david lemieux.
What can we say about it? I didn’t think i would see him back out here again.
Yeah he’s he’s our guy manny’s canadian, we’re gon na stay behind him, but yo david benovita is 25-0 uh.
Honestly watching this kid.
Let his hands go whoa! That’S right! He was talking about him before he could let his hands fly and where is the match? Where is this happening in quebec? Arizona, arizona, oh that’s neutral ground granted is one of the most feared punches in the sports right now um.
You know he sits.
25 years old he’s 25-0 22 knockouts uh.
You know he answers this fight.
Having knocked out his last five opponents, including the september 29 uh 19 knockout of two-time super middleweight champion and anthony darrell.
Most recently benavidez returned to fight in arizona for the first time since 2015 and delivered a dominating seventh-round knockout over over cairo davis uh benefited his train by his father.
Alongside his brother and former title challenger jose jr in 2017, he became the youngest super middleweight champion in boxing history by defeating uh, ronald gravel, uh yeah, gabriel um.
You know just 20 years old and avidas went from a 15 year old prodigy sparring with triple g peter quillin to world title contender with 10 fight knockout streak from 2015 through to 2017, including a highlight reel knockout of uh medina in a seventh round.
A seventh title opportunity: wow, that’s saying something: yeah um, who else you got to be on the lookout for on this card honestly: the 24 year old, uh, yolves gomez, five and oh five kos.
He made a big statement in his usd uh debut on christmas blasting out a typical, durable clay collard in the first round over the showdown uh.
You know this kid he’s from havana, cuba.
You know fights out of las vegas uh.
You know this southpaw.
He shows power in both hands and he has relentless finishing skills uh immediately, making him a rising contender in this division.
Man, the super welterweight division, so yeah guys this card, don’t miss this one.
She’S got 150 pounds, that’s 150 pounds super welter, yeah yeah.
Well, they choose the weight, they go back and forth for the weight.
Well, what? No it’s one, what is it 150 to one? No 156 155, or something like that? Okay, okay, yeah, that’s junior middleweight, 155.
! Oh right yeah! I believe so i guess they’re fighting.
I guess 60’s middleweight and 55’s junior middle okay, well they’re they’re, saying super welter against.
Oh, she got off.
I bite myself, honestly yeah.
This is gon na, be a good one man.
We also got richardson hitchens who’s 13-0, taking on uh angel rodriguez, who’s, 12, 10 and three be on the lookout for this kid man.
I like watching this kid uh elijah, garcia, is also on this he’s an unbeaten.
You got jesus a bell ibra another kid.
I’Ve mentioned man 13-0 uh.
Definitely this young, this undercard is definitely um stacked man.
You got louis nunez 16-0, taking on jonathan fierro who’s 13-0 big card lots of stuff going on on the underside of this i’m totally into watching all of it.
I can’t wait to get it underway tim.
You know we got, we have fights to watch this weekend.
Yeah we get oh yeah.
Okay, i just was gon na tell you that greg townswell was trying to be on, but he wanted me to let you guys know that um that he trying to get guys to help him with his business.
I’M gon na work tomorrow and just to let everybody know that we helping mitch green out we’re doing really good he’s starting to open up and talk to people we’re trying to we’re trying to get him a tour in england.
A lot of people know listen when, when, when um, when mitch walked into there, everything stopped and then there was lining up signing, he was signing autographs and we trying to get him yeah.
We trying to get him to leave mike alone and we’re trying to get a podcast with him.
I’M trying to get him on this show yep yeah, i’m trying to get him he’s taking our time.
So greg was getting a little bit of money talking to him and we’ve been nice to him and he’s trusting us now, but he didn’t know he think people um sabotaging his phone – oh my god yeah.
He think they tapping this a little bit of paranoia yeah.
I’M gon na try to get him on here.
I’Mma get him on.
Let me get blood green on, so i called my agent in england and he said he said that he’s going to try to get a toy for blood in about five months, so we’re just trying to get him money in his pocket.
He can’t walk.
He can’t walk real good, so yeah, so iron barkley ivan barkley’s, um uh.
He has an event uh uh uh.
You know up in on the 24th, we’re going up there to raise money and they’re going to try to get him a bike trying to get michigan in the bike.
They’Re going to pay him and we’re going to go pick him up and take him there.
So greg told me to just just because he had to go find workers to just try to get that on the show and stuff to get blood.
You know, but i’m gon na try to we’re gon na get blood on that’ll be good.
Is that okay? I can’t wait, i’m not saying he he trusts us, he trusts me and he trusts uh.
He trusts greg, but before it was hard, oh man, he he would hang up because he thought the phones was tagged.
You hang up, then call back, but now, but now he’s okay and we put him on the podcast he’ll.
Just give me a couple of weeks.
We’Re gon na get him on okay right and you might not understand everything.
You say, though: that’s okay! That’S! Okay! That’S! Okay, i don’t mind, oh i’m sure, i’m sure i’ll understand some of it.
How many places what was her name? That’S natalie brown, natalie brown.
How many does she have pro fights right, yeah yeah she does.
Oh, i usually watch the fights.
I never you know yeah.
It’S miss natalie brown, yeah yeah.
She know her, hey tim tim.
We have.
We have carl asking your opinion, i’m not martin piccolo carl from england.
Do you know martin piccoli? No.
We talked about martin piccoli last week doing mike yeah.
We did he’s congolese congolese boxer um right now.
Oh he’s from lee’s yeah he’s.
You know he’s 18 and 18 and one with 13 kos.
He took on tony yoka last last weekend.
I’M sorry guys.
I told i told mike – and i told you that i was going to try to find out, get a little more familiar with a lot of stuff in the box and everything’s moving so fast, but in the future i’m going to be right on time.
Don’T worry tim we’ll get you we’ll get you caught up.
I hung out with carl fratch and a lot of other people, because i know somebody mentioned his name on there.
It wasn’t a real good experience and i told you guys before but yeah.
This is healthy.
It’S just healthy to talk about boxing every once in a while.
It is it’s great.
It’S a good outlet, it’s a great outlet! Absolutely so she disappeared on you.
Yeah she’s gone.
She she probably had stuff to do.
Okay, so greg said tonight and he’ll, which is a crazy night.
No it’s friday night, it’s friday night man, i don’t know nowhere, got ta, go hit.
The town man, oh, no, we’re gon na watch this fight man, the pascal fight, what’s happening with network is that on uh, that’s on uh, i’m trying to find it right now.
Actually, it’s it’s a new one.
Was it fox tv or something i’ve never heard of the pro box pro box tv, i’ve never heard of them? I guess it’s something i’m going to have to check out and find i’m sure i think she is.
She wouldn’t drink it.
She wouldn’t get a drink of rum, [, Laughter, ] yeah.
She came back for the last five minutes to say goodbye and blew a kiss to everybody: hey she’s, taking a sip.
You think she is we we we’ve gone through.
All the fights is that right, mike yeah, we haven’t touched on everything.
Where did she go fans out there watching? You know what it is man it’s fight weekend.
We got ta get to work.
I guess we’ll see you next week.
I don’t know.
Do we have anything else you want to talk about before we get out of here, nah uh? No.
I mentioned uh josh taylor.
I mentioned the canadian lemieux yep, oh cedric, i’m sorry! I’M sorry did you make it to the liquor store.
I did [ Laughter ].
They gon na call me out like that: hey it’s it’s one weekend, that’s what i have to do come on.
They closed early, i’m sorry they closed early.
I have to make sure i get there get there pretty close.
I was listening.
Hey i was listening and the whole time i’m on the way back, so i don’t believe some big fights, there’s gon na be some big knockouts this weekend.
We’Re gon na have a great we’re.
Gon na have a great knockout show so make sure all the fans out there watching join us sunday to see who we pick.
As the knockout of the week i got ta.
I got a quick question for for both the champs sugar and tim um, so the the the it’s about coaching, because the news was out.
Uh news just came out yesterday or the day before that um uh devin haney’s coach who’s, his dad bill haney will not be allowed into australia on a 30 30 year old federal federal drug charge that he served time for, but but um.
So i want to ask you guys: how do you think this will uh? This will affect devin haney? My quick thoughts is just you know.
I me personally, i haven’t trained any professionals just on the amateur level, the high level amateurs that i’ve worked with um.
You know when, when you get them to a certain level, you win nationals a couple of times and you get on on the on the the the canadian team.
When you travel, they they’re not going to be with you they’re going to be with the the national team coast so that you have the amsterdam you’re kind of prepared for that.
But i know obviously amateur professionals are a lot different than the pros.
So how how how do you? How would you guys, how do you think, first of all, how do you think devin haney is going to do and how would you deal with the situation? I think you could throw them off a little bit.
First of all, real quick, yep, real quick.
I think that we’ll have some type of effect on them.
Um, like i won, i won big fights without my trainer.
When don king said he wasn’t gon na pay him he left.
He talked me said tim.
I can’t.
I can’t deal with.
I got to pay big bills, and i understood that and i had to fight myself and i won so it’s up to the fighter he’s definitely going there.
It’S definitely going to affect him.
It’S definitely going to affect his problem, not being there, but it’s up to him to try to pull it off and be a champ and be a muhammad ali or a joke.
Rachel george foreman, a big big timer.
If he pull it off he’s going to get way more respect, they’re going to talk about yeah, yeah and the rematch rematch is actually in australia too.
So you have to do it twice: [, Music, ]! It’S exactly what um tim says right uh, and he said this previously, you got ta be ready, you got ta, be ready and ready means ready for that, as well, whatever right so um.
This is what i say where: how big are your pants devon? Are you able to man up now because your daddy ain’t there right so you’re gon na, have to find something inside of you, yeah to man up you’re in und you’re you’re in you’re, going on to the opposition’s back warren territory, yeah foreign territory and your daddy’s? Not around right so who’s going to give you that courage, you got to find it in yourself and you got to know that i’ve i’m flying was it 20 hours down there to take something from y’all back home, yeah right and that’s the hunger.
That’S the thirst that i’m talking about with these fighters.
Now that i’m i’m not seeing anymore, i’m not seeing like the fighters of tim’s era where tim said, [ __ ], i i know this is a man’s sport and i got to be a man right.
These guys, these these boys, you know they they floss, and it’s all about instagram and all about how cute your girlfriend is.
Well guess what right your girlfriend going to see exactly how cute you are this this weekend right? How are you going to perform? How are you going to man up and show the world that you deserve to be devin haney right, so that i i’m i’m really curious to see what the performance is, and you know i i and i’m not even trying to hear no sore loser type talk.
Oh, my daddy didn’t come and that’s what we’re going to really see who he really is exactly that’s right.
Yeah yeah you’re going to be affected, but that doesn’t mean affected, don’t mean you.
We are not expecting you to be a champion.
Yes, yes, yes, okay and that’s what that is all about.
Okay! Well, that being said guys, we are at the end of our show.
I enjoyed myself, i enjoyed myself, we got, we got, we got, we got women, we got a nice, beautiful woman and we got everybody else.
We got another voice, we got a different um, you know a woman’s opinion yeah.
I think that’s, that’s really cool.
I really appreciate the day for having me guys, yes for sure to all the fans watching around the world thanks for tuning in to this week’s episode of the friday night panel featuring myself, tim witherspoon, graham natalie, too bad brown.
What like that name, i didn’t know it.
Natalie, whoa, okay, join us next week same time same channel new topics, peace, peace, take care;
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