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EPISODE: Episode 7
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[, Music, ] hello, boxing fans around the world thanks for joining us once again here on talk and fight for another episode of the friday night panel, mike how you doing i’m doing great.
Graham, how are you doing today? Awesome we have a very special guest joining us, sheila stafford who’s, going to start her own show on talk and fight pretty soon having a lot of things to say about women in boxing and the scene in general, and she hails from, i believe atlanta, so she’ll Have a lot of things to say: i know there’s a fight coming up in atlanta in june.
I believe actually, but anyway, we’ll see what she has to say.
I can’t wait all right there.
We have her sheila, how you doing amazing.
I’M excited thanks for joining us.
Thank you.
We were, we were.
We were just we just happened to mention.
I don’t know if you heard or not that uh there’s a there is a fight going on in atlanta.
I was mentioning on the news uh segment of the talk and fight show today, but i can’t remember the name of the promoter uh but anyway, but i do i do know.
It features avril matthew, a young female fighter that i’m following you mean model.
Oh yeah she’s 701.
yeah.
She is, she is i profiled her a long time ago on the show, and i told everybody to watch out for it because she’s mean man she’s being in that ring.
She knows what she’s doing she’s got a great iq and she’s got heavy hands.
She does that’s.
She she’s a powerful puncher.
I’Ve seen her.
Yes, don’t let the looks fool you no.
I know i know i know i’ll try not to you know.
I guess it makes it easier when she looks so nice and beats you up.
Yes, you don’t feel as bad.
Are you gon na feel it you’re gon na feel it, but you’re not gon na feel bad.
I guess she just puts that smile on and everything’s.
Okay, i know so shield before we uh before we get into uh the upcoming uh weekend of fight.
Why don’t you want to tell us a little bit about your upcoming show on talk and fight and a little bit about yourself and then swing it back to us and we’ll continue peppering you with questions? Well, my name is sheila stafford stafford boxing, the making of champions.
I will be doing the stafford boxing report may 30th with promoter malinga all the way from south africa.
That’S a big six hour difference.
I’M really excited about having her on.
So we can see how the culture is with women in the boxing industry over there in south africa and it’s it’s i’m excited to even have her um about myself.
I live in atlanta, georgia.
I can tell you right off the rip.
I love boxing.
I love to fight if i would have had an opportunity to get in that ring.
You all would be talking about me.
I would have dominated everything about it.
I’M telling you well finish finish the story.
Then what happened? How come you didn’t go pro well by time i saw leila lee fight, that’s when the bells really started ringing and i was like if i was younger.
I was a little bit at age at that time and i had other things going on, so i didn’t get my opportunity i would.
I could have seen it helping me too, as well as the direction that i was going in my life.
So i do see how the sport of boxing can help the youth, and that’s also something that my husband and i are doing.
We have the stafford boxing club incorporated a non-profit organization where we reach out to the at-risk youth by using the sport of boxing.
So i’m real excited about that too.
That’S awesome, uh just in atlanta or are you spreading your wings and uh getting those clubs across the country? Well, right now we’re just going to concentrate on atlanta one step at a time and if it comes out that way, then sure why not go big or go home yeah right! That’S right! All right! Let’S, let’s talk about our upcoming fight this weekend before we do, though, before we do, there was a heavyweight fight last night, i just wanted to touch on briefly, because we’re always talking about the heavyweight division men’s sorry sheila, but in the men’s – and we wanted to See it unclogged, so otto wallen flew over to america to fight in detroit last night and and won.
I believe, he’s number 11 11 ranked in the heavyweight division, but uh he was up against uh some decent competition out of detroit.
As far as you know, the guys at uh salida promotions, so they put on a really yeah, i profiled this all uh in the in a week.
What was it a couple of weeks ago, all the young, the young guys to watch on that card? Yeah yeah, that was a great promotion.
Actually so otto walleney came over and unanimous decision win over booker wow, that’s awesome, yep! That’S right! Yeah, rydel booker! You think you weighed in at 21 pounds heavier than auto so yeah i was going wow.
That’S that’s a big difference, but ottawa proved he’s no uh walkover anyway, anyway.
So sorry, sorry, i just died.
It’S up to you now go ahead mike sorry about that.
It’S okay man, it’s okay, uh, honestly, guys big time boxing returns to barclay center in brooklyn.
That’S five-time world champion gervante tank davis, moxie’s hottest young attraction defends his lightweight title against unbeaten number, one ranked contender rolando romero.
I profiled him yesterday on my show this kid 14-0 he’s stepping it up man getting in the ring with davis.
You know um three-time, division, world champion davis, he’s uh, he’s big things and and uh he’s a serious, a serious step up for this guy.
It’S gon na be a great fight.
Uh, there’s some great fights on this undercard as well uh.
If you get a chance to watch it, man uh, definitely, graham.
What are you thinking about this fight? To be honest, um going into it, i really like tank uh as a fighter uh, but the shenanigans he’s been pulling off the things you’ve been saying.
I don’t like uh and i’ve said that before about other fighters, i think when they go over, that edge, they make the sport of boxing look a little silly um and i didn’t appreciate the the whether it was intentional.
Not the push from behind off the stage.
Uh went rolling, so that was, i think it was a bit embarrassing.
Quite frankly – and i’ve said this before about press conferences and these stare downs and these shenanigans, i don’t think it looks good at all boxing anyway, i digress again uh, but still having said all that uh, i would still lay my bet on that tank to win That contest it’s gon na be close, though i think it’s gon na be a good battle.
Man, honestly, you know davis, starring, mayweather promotions, stable, you know, he’s added another highlight filled the year to his resume.
You know topping two showtime pay-per-view events june.
He stopped previously unbeaten mario barrios uh to capture a 140 pound title and become the three division world champ before turning away top lightweight contender isaac, cruz in a successful december.
Fifth, title defense, so you know, then we got and also another member of mayweather promotions, stable romero, who’s 14 and over 12 ko, and he backs up his brash talk with power in both hands and guys when you’re watching this guy’s training video, he has been training.
So hard to literally come to the body and just wreck him, you know romero won an interim title in august of 2020 by earning a close but unanimous decision win over jackson, uh marines uh the 26 hero followed that victory up with a pair of impressive knockouts Uh triumphs in his last two fights: he dominated contender, avery sparrow uh on his way to a seventh round stoppage in january uh and then recently dropping anthony yidgett uh three times on his way to another seventh round stoppage in july of 2021.
So this is going to be a big fight.
Uh can’t wait to see this one, but we have lara.
Uh is also on the undercard here or sorry he’s the co-main event uh taking ariel sullivan for the wba world middle title.
Um then guys there’s a lot of uh young up-and-comers here man that are on this card that i’ve been following uh.
You know adrian benton, arnold gonzalez, uh, mia ellis uh, eduardo ramirez, uh and jesus alejandro ramos uh.
These.
These guys think they can really put on a show, so it’s definitely going to be a good fight from from the beginning, man, it’s gon na be a good card right from start to finish, uh.
You know, i’m i’m picking my man davis to take it.
I think it’s gon na happen late, like eight or ninth round, but i think he’s going to come up with that that vicious uppercut that he knows how to use so well.
I think it’s going to come into play and uh and i think he’s going to put romero away.
Those are my [ __ ], my thoughts for the weekend of fights.
To be honest.
There we go.
I actually have to agree with you on that one.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I have to agree with you on that one, because it’s usually around that round that he’ll usually put the opponent down, but i also think it’s kind of tricky, though, because his opponent is uh, like you said, he’s been training extremely hard.
He’S been talking that talk got ta back it up now, yeah yeah, you have to back it up, uh romero, man he’s he’s, got those heavy hands.
He’S got that he’s got that one punch ability, knockout power and and i’ve seen it and honestly i like the kid i profiled him and followed him for a while.
I, like him, he’s got you know.
Great ring presence he’s got a good iq and he knows how to throw down, and he ain’t afraid of you know getting in there and battling and it’s gon na, be it’s gon na, be not an easy fight for davis uh.
You know he’s gon na have to he’s gon na have to work for this one and uh.
You know if romero comes out.
Hey, that’s that’s a huge huge win for him.
Uh.
You know improving the 15 and oh and taking away a belt from davis, which would be a you know, excellence, excellent, notch on his belt for sure.
But i i believe dave is going to win this one late and uh, and i think it’s going to be that nasty little uppercut he’s got well romero.
Romero has said he will knock out tank in round one.
I do appreciate the bravado uh, but he’s got half the number of fights of uh davis and uh.
You know i think agent experience will win over this battle.
Definitely like romero’s a young kid still, so you know he’s not uh he’s not that old.
Yet i think i think he’s about, i think, he’s about to get a learning hell beside his name, he’s about to get a learning.
Yes, he’s about to get a living for sure, yes pretty sure, but uh you know don’t do you got ta look out for him man because he’s you know his last few fights he’s finished them late right, like uh.
He he has the ability to be brought later into the rounds and finish guys late in those rounds.
So the kid has stamina um.
You know we’re gon na see if he goes at 12.
.
He has been 12 before against jackson.
Uh marines, where he you know, was a unanimous decision.
He went to 12 rounds, but it shows he’s able to finish in those late rounds.
So you know, hopefully uh davis is ready to go and uh, and you know hopefully his tank is full [ Laughter, ] right well done we’re all done.
This tank is full man.
That’S that’s it.
That’S it.
That’S really good shout out to carl.
From last spell boxing: yes, i think tank to jump in with ryan garcia.
Next is what needs to happen.
That’S a great call.
Uh carl from las vegas boxing over in the uk great show check it out.
Thursdays! Yes, so tell us tell us more about your youth program.
Sheila yeah, i’m curious how that works.
Okay.
So it’s a 12-month program that we’re going to have for the kids.
It’S a mentorship program and, like i mentioned within that mentorship program, we will have them um doing some boxing with the coaches, because how you train, we can use boxing as a teaching about life, self-esteem, learning how to communicate.
Learn how to have that aggression that a lot of the kids have because of their home life, and they don’t have a way to have that aggression and turn it into a positive channel.
They don’t have the resources they don’t have.
Well, they don’t have access to the resources and it’ll be a safe place for them to come.
We believe that education is extremely important, along with the physical activity for them.
So we put all that together because we’re we’re trying to get the community to support local talent.
If we change one youth, that means we change a family and from that one family.
We change that community because there’s so much crime that’s going on and we want that crime rate to go down and in order for us to do that, we have to make sure that the youth have a safe place to go and see.
That’S one of the issues that we’re having in certain places the demographic, the youth don’t have access to what other youth have they can’t get to it or they don’t have the income for it right.
So that’s where we come into play so we’re that gap that they’re missing so when they come in we’re going to make sure that their lives are changed one one at a time.
That’S all we that’s all.
We can really do develop their coping skills and self-discipline.
That’S really important, i’m a firm believer that children in combative sports is a form of exercise and, and you know, a form of some sort of activity.
You know it really does teach them uh.
You know it teaches them how to set goals for themselves.
Uh.
You know focus it uh you know require boxing requires intense concentration to be successful in it.
It also teaches them how to focus it, teaches them self-discipline, uh to instill respect.
You know, builds their confidence, social development, um and educational.
They can turn that all around and put that into their schooling, you know being able to uh.
You know social, social development being good with all these kids in these classes.
You know the the the respect being able to respect authority.
You know, like you, learn all this stuff when you take these combative sports and you can see it in these kids, man and – and it’s great, i think it’s a great thing it treats.
You know i’ve seen parents put their kids in combative sports instead of medicating them for things like adhd, because it helps them focus, helps them concentrate it’s there’s so many benefits for, and i’m glad that you’re uh you’re, providing that kind of opportunity to children that don’t Have that opportunity, that’s a great thing that you’re doing sheila.
To be honest, always i commend you for it.
That’S the great thing.
Are you doing? I appreciate that? What age are you starting? Not, we will be starting at the age.
Well, we’re going to do middle school and high schoolers and the reason why, because they’re going through their puberty stages at that time, so a lot of times when the youth goes through that puberty stage, they are, of course not feeling themselves and their self-worth they’re like Why why am i here? They start questioning themselves, besides the different activities that are going on in middle school, because that’s usually where it starts, and then with them making that transition to high school a lot of them.
Don’T do that very well right because that’s older kids, the next grade a new environment, new people, so they feel alone and they feel stuck and that’s a reason why a lot of the the youth act up in class? You know they give the teachers a hard time because, like i said they just don’t, have that proper channel and classes are overcrowded yeah and these teachers they don’t know what to do when they’re feeling overwhelmed and they’re not having that help that they need they’re.
Not getting it so that’s why we’re going to start off with middle school and high school.
I think that’s going to be perfect for them, because they’re at that development stage, and that’s really where we need to get them.
So is this the program that you’re taking on the road? Are you taking people into schools to teach boxing well right now, what we’re doing is we’re actually renting out a space right now, where i interned at this past semester, i got a grade for it at mustafa’s boxing, it’s here off of glenwood road in decatur georgia.
So we’re written out of space right there.
So that’s where we’re going to start at and what we’re going to do is we are going to go on field trips, so we can get them out of the atmosphere, their environment that they’re used to.
So they can see how other people communicate, how other people live and just allow them to experience just something different, that they would never experience, because they would never ever go to where we’re going to go to we’ll go to different schools.
Just the capital here in atlanta, just something that’s going to clear their mind and give them some type of hope and give them the encouragement that look.
You can do this.
This is where you can be just because you’re in this type of situation, right here, just because you’re having a difficult time, that’s not going to last forever.
We have to start building these kids up and speaking life into them and that’s a something else too.
Life and being positive, a lot of them, don’t know anything about that.
They just know what they see what they’ve been through and what they hear yeah.
So the elements that you’re speaking of we see on television all the time i don’t mean the the negative side per se.
I remember shows out of baltimore and i can’t remember the name of it.
It was on years ago uh, but uh young chap.
He gets out of prison and he goes into his community and he sets up a boxing gym and he invites all the young people basically to come, hang out and feel welcome.
And so that was a central theme uh in what was actually a police show, but that central theme of it was that the community can heal itself by being positive and extending these messages into the young people that are, you know, going to grow up to be The next generation, so i think i think what you’re doing is incredibly commendable.
We’Ve heard lots of stories from lots of boxers who’ve said how boxing has changed their lives, how they’re running the streets in and out of prison, whatever even very famous boxers.
Quite frankly, we’ve had on the show who’ve admitted to getting into trouble and boxing’s turned their lives around and uh hey there.
So if you can start uh start with them, when they’re young and uh as mike was saying, get them focused and get them energized about something that they’re truly passionate about me and like we’ve, we talked both men and women, mainly women, who said the minute more From a physical kind of routine to stepping into the ring and actually punching someone and getting punched in the face, it was life-changing life-altering right mike, i mean we’ve heard that time and time again from especially from young women uh how about how it went from physical Fitness to wow, i can actually do this.
I can actually belt someone in the face.
I can get belted and it feels good it’s when you start hitting those new levels of of uh of your of your boxing skill, because you start getting better and better.
The punches start coming cleaner and cleaner next thing.
You know you’re, like man i can get in the ring.
I could do that.
I could use it and then you start training for it and then you get in the ring and you’re like you know what man.
This is awesome.
Why you have an outlet.
You have an outlet to come and take all the frustrations of the day and leave it in the gym and go home relaxed stress-free, which would give a better home life.
You know you got all these people, they come, they come home and they just unload their stress from the work on the family and the family unloads.
Their stress.
This is a you know.
Boxing is a perfect outlet.
Any combative sport is a perfect outlet.
You get to leave everything at the gym, you come with it, you drop it off.
You go home feeling better and you know what you’ll live.
You’Ll live longer, you’ll feel better you’ll be healthier mentally physically there’s, so many benefits to it and you’re right.
I used to take boxing classes and i used to almost punch a hole in that bag seriously, so i know firsthand that it really does help and i felt a lot better.
I really did i find when i hit when i hit the bag.
It takes a lot for me to get angry.
After a day of that i can see it.
I want for me to get angry.
You go and hit the bag in the gym.
Weekly, there’s you’re, carefree, you’re relaxed.
You know you can you can tackle, you can tackle life’s problems and life’s obstacles so much easier on a clear mind after hitting a bag.
It’S great! I love it.
I’M a firm believer in it.
I pushed my kids into it, they loved it.
What more can you say about it? It’S a great thing.
It helps your memory too.
Definitely, definitely – and i know i need a lot of that – [ Laughter ], you recently graduated uh.
What would you get your degree in there sheila sports administration with a minor in entrepreneurship? It was a journey.
I would tell you.
I started at the age of 44.
, so i was at a school for over 25 years.
So when i started, i started off taking five classes that lady tricked me yeah.
She did, she got me so good and everything was brand new.
It was like i was starting school from the beginning, like this was my first time ever.
Everything has changed, but it’s been a blessing because i had always wanted to have an education, and i really i didn’t have one.
Unfortunately, i was one of those kids that misbehaved a lot and didn’t take her education seriously, and i didn’t have the support that some kids have.
So that’s why i can understand what a lot of the youth is going going with or coming from, because i too, as well as my husband.
We both have experienced and we’ve done some things in life.
So we know what they’re going through and that’s another reason why? Because we know the consequences and there was consequences with my actions, because i did not take my education seriously.
You don’t get that respect because you don’t have that education and then the type of jobs.
If you’re, if you’re working it’s it’s not really up to par, so i really have a passion for education.
It was.
It was a.
It was a hard journey, but it was well worth it and i’m just glad now it’s over i can breathe, put that piece of paper up on the wall.
Oh yes, my husband got me.
A plaque.
Wow well done well, do well dessert! Thank you.
What is the the female boxing scene like down in atlanta, i’m gon na be honest with you, and this is what’s.
This is what’s been bothering me about this female boxing.
The female boxing is very difficult.
The reason why it’s difficult i’ll give you an example.
I can be on the computer and i’ll just try to do some research, it’s not as easy as if i put in a mailboxer i’mma get that information like that, but you put in a female boxer.
You don’t get any type of information.
I mean you’ll get some information like instagram facebook, box wreck or something like that, but that’s pretty much all you get and i believe this falls back on the team and the reason why i say that is: okay, we all know a manager is the number one Person who’s responsible for that boxer right, so that goes with nutrition, even taking part of the matchmaking, the training everything.
So you need to be a part of the social media content, the seo when you go in there and search – and it seems like when it comes to the female boxers – we’re not getting any of that.
It’S like the female boxers are the ones that are posting all the content.
The information going live if they can, and i i really feel like that’s very unacceptable, there’s a lot of great female boxers out here and they should have more air time.
They should have.
We should just know more about them.
It’S almost like they’re hidden.
I know exactly what you mean.
It takes me a lot of work to research, the females that i interview and and and profile on my show.
I know exactly what you mean when, when you, when you’re looking for a female fighter to to to look up, you literally have to go through so many different angles: finding people and back stories – and it’s just it’s so much a work where yeah.
You know you type in a guy’s name and it pops up, and it’s got his whole history and a story in a news article about him and stuff about high school and all this kind of, but it’s very hard to find the female stuff.
I totally agree with you: it’s they’re not getting the right representation, they’re getting left to doing their social media up to themselves, uh their.
You know, their managers and promoters aren’t promoting and it’s sad there’s a lot of great females that are going unnoticed certainly know.
We’Ve.
Certainly noticed a healthy change in perspective, though over the past year and change nearly two years now, since we’ve been doing this podcast and we’ve had since the beginning, scarlett delgado have her show the female fist natalie brown sugar does her show you’re about to launch your Show so there’s an awful lot of content on our site devoted to women in boxing mike, as you know, profiles an awful lot of women every single week.
It is, it is hard work and it is very uh personal so who you bring to the show, for example, we’re going to find out about women fighting in south africa.
We have a south african host david julie and we uh just streamed very recently for the very first time uh his boxing match out of the netherlands so yeah he actually lost, but he yeah.
We know he won the way i scored it yeah.
So so i’m just i’m just saying uh there’s an awful lot of support.
I think bubbling up from the fans uh, who appreciate the work uh and now the experience, because it was 2012 when the females were finally allowed to box in the olympics, and in those 10 years we’ve seen it certainly seen a growth.
I think exposure at all levels in both amateur and professional ranks you’ve seen the emergence of jake paul, promoting the amount of surrounding katie taylor fight at such a high level.
They were, they were headlined in madison square garden.
So i think it’s a lot to be said positively about women in boxing and mike’s often said it ultimately will just be a boxing match.
It won’t be this male versus female kind of you know we’re going to i’m going to the boxing match and uh.
It won’t really matter who’s, headlining, it’ll, just be a great fight and well they’ll all be great fights, but i’m just simply saying i think we’re getting to that point now now now sugar was on the other day, though, and she was lamenting the fact that there Have been some mismatches of late in the in the female ranks that draw to her attention to, if you, if you will bad management and or uh bad direction, uh where, where that that uh young woman out of mexico, uh alejandra, aya uh, she went over to Glasgow to fight hannah rankin, but she had already been beaten by savannah marshall a few years prior and after that fight, it was determined by doctors in the uk who notified the mexican boxing authority that they had discovered a tumor in her brain when they did an Mri scan so how she was allowed to fight and sugar’s got a great point how she was allowed to fight um.
Yes, she was willing to fight.
That’S fair enough, of course, but should she medically have been allowed to fight? Is the point medically? She should have been cleared.
You got to save a boxer from themselves.
Sometimes boxers will get in there and fight when they shouldn’t it’s it’s in them.
It’S bred into them.
It’S that drive that that intensity to not quit never give up.
You got to save boxers from themselves.
She definitely should have not been cleared to fight that fight.
Maybe you know, maybe she ran into money problems.
Maybe she found a way to talk.
You know the people into letting it happen, bribe who knows, but there’s, there’s gon na, be an investigation into it.
We’Re gon na see what happened this is you know we can’t.
This doesn’t do anything for the sport having people.
You know end up in comas and then die after getting into a match like there’s, there’s something wrong there.
It shouldn’t be happening.
It shouldn’t be happening, you’re right.
What do you think, sheila honestly carl carl says i actually agree with this uk leading the way in female boxing? Yes, i think they’re doing justice for the females man big time, the uk.
They they rep them really well, you rub them really well.
Definitely well if, if we can eliminate the bob aaron’s of the world, who have these very negative things to say about women’s boxing yeah soon enough uh, you know and have more eddie hearns over here on the side of the pond uh, who will uh take women In the ring seriously much more seriously than any of these older cats, now you you’d think that uh and i think it is happening.
I think it’s happening on a localized level.
I think it’s rising up through the ranks organically in north america.
I think, within a few years we’ll reach that level of professionalism that they have now in the uk, thanks carl, but the reality of it is, is it’s going to take a few more years.
We can certainly go toe-to-toe on a day-to-day basis, but i think to get that foundation properly, laid and and then to build upon that foundation is going to take a few more years still and i’m talking about the professional ranks, yeah yeah, we still won.
I could see that, and certainly uh programs like yours, getting young people involved from the very early ages middle school, high school.
Getting them excited about sport, again uh.
You know, because i was explaining to someone the other day.
I think you might agree with this.
You know boxing had a huge amount of success during the muhammad ali, joe frazier, mike tyson kind of era, but it got taken over from a popularity perspective when the wwe came along and then then mma came along in particular ufc and i think it’s coming around.
Full circle now, where boxing has received more of the spotlight in recent years, mainly due to specific characters in the sport, as opposed to uh the guys who think they own the sport.
So i i think, i’m holding out that uh there’s going to be a big change, positive change, uh in the way we look at women in the in the ring as – and i think and i’ve said this before mike’s agreed to me.
I think the way ebony bridges fought uh last year.
I think i think that was uh uh, the great chasm that we crossed over because she was going into it.
Everyone was thinking she was just a you know, bikini model, but no, she she she felt like hellion, quite frankly and and fought well as a matter of fact, she fought so well.
I forgot who won that one uh, but you know what honestly i was so impressed with her her determination to continue on with that eye, swollen up the way it was like.
You know i’m telling you that there’s no way she was able to see out of that.
I think that was uh, hey doctor come over and do this and her coach was pinching her arm to tell her when you know like that, i was shut that i was shut.
Somebody was telling you when that finger came across yeah.
I see it.
No, no! You don’t nothing because for the whole next round, she walked into that fist again man, but that drive and determination to get in there and just perform like that.
You know i would have seen you would have seen some men tapping out from that.
There would have been some corners that would have thrown in towel and they’re like no, no he’s done.
No hey they put on a show.
They show that women are fierce um.
I can’t wait till they start giving them three minute rounds, man to see what they really can do.
Absolutely oh yeah! Absolutely right, like some of these women are on the verge of knocking these other women out and they’re getting saved by the belt.
You know we could i’ve three minute rounds.
I think we’re gon na see more more more women get laid out with more knockouts.
You know, or taking their time uh and put on a proper performance, is mm-hmm going back to the hannah.
Rankin is interesting, uh who’s.
She gon na fight next, and i think uh natasha jonas might be lined up next uh for her to fight uh.
But i completely sidetracked myself.
I was gon na ask you sheila about south africa, because you must have been speaking to someone over there uh.
How are the women uh over there and because we know very little about african fighters? I mean we’ve spoken to a lot of men from africa, the very few women in africa.
So what have you learned so far? Sheila that you can share with us? I can tell you this women there are not respected.
The men can get away with just about anything, and it’s made it so much harder for the women, whether on the business side, like mrs malinga and other boxers, they’re they’re, making it very difficult for them.
But when you have women, like mrs malinga, that is really going through some um trials tribulations and some challenges, she sees the bigger picture so she’s the voice there, which is actually giving the other women strength to keep going because there there’s been a few.
That’S given up because of how they’re being treated and not being accepted, wanting to be in the boxing industry.
So it’s it’s it’s difficult.
It really is it’s it’s difficult over there, so my heart goes out, but mrs malinga she’s a strong woman.
I have to say that for some of the a lot of the challenges that she’s going through and for her to continue doing what needs to be done in a business matter, a business way i have to, i have to take my hat off to her, because It’S a whole different beast over there than it is over here, and we know the boxing industry is a whole nother, beast yeah yeah yeah, we’ve spoken to nigerians and ghanaians from west africa, and it is a there’s, a tough game to get into because you’re training In uh, more or less concrete, bunkers, quite frankly and uh right and then and so equipment is one thing.
If you have you get yourselves and some equipment, that’s one thing uh, but then you know given the thousands of fighters in west africa you know, of which maybe a dozen might rise to the top.
It’S quite a struggle, so i can’t imagine how hard it is for the women uh in south africa uh to get noticed to get trained and then to get noticed which, as you said, requires an entire team.
And then we’ve said that on the show many times uh, if tim witherspoon was here, he tells himself uh how many people are involved behind the scenes behind that fighter, stepping through the ropes and into the ring and said this and a lot of people don’t realize That you know there’s this psychologist as nutritionists i mean, there’s, let alone the actual uh therapists, uh uh, let alone the actual trainers.
Uh you can go on for, for you know, have at least a half a dozen people, easily half a dozen people, not to mention those men and women who were in the corners as well as the medical staff too.
That is one thing i have noticed.
Uh, though, in terms of corners, i see a lot of more women these days in corners than i used to oh yeah.
There must there must be some um.
I don’t know how you say: acceptance uh within certain i mean whether this is again grassroots, whether this is bubbling up from an organic level.
I don’t really know, i mean it’s, certainly transcending other sports.
I mean all these other sports i mean uh was it recently.
Is it was it uh, the national american soccer league or whatever it’s called? I can’t remember what it’s called, but they voted to pay women equally as men yeah.
So that was that’s a massive breakthrough in professional sports uh.
I know the women’s national basketball players are constantly uh lamenting the fact that they’re not getting paid but what they should be getting paid uh.
And yes, when fans start filling arenas, then perhaps they’ll have a better leg to stand on, but in the meantime they have to go play in the summertime in eastern europe and other countries where they get paid an awful lot of money.
Quite frankly, to do the exact same thing, so women have been fighting this uphill battle.
I think for a long time, especially in boxing, but i think we have turned the corner.
I think that ebony bridges fight last year was monumental in changing people’s opinions.
As to you know how ferocious women can be in the ring, how determined how proud they can be in the ring, uh and and put on a great fight for the entertainment of all, not just not just women, and one day it will be just boxing, not Boxing, sorry to me, too, i was relaxing to sleep sorry about that.
I was just so into what you were saying.
I i gave you very calming, though.
Thank you interesting.
Thank you.
I gave my core a task the other day because he was focusing last week on japanese fighters, so you want to talk about a tough task.
He actually because he always has female fridays and the task was.
Could he come out on that show and actually bring us a japanese top-ranked female fighter, and he did he did so.
You know, even in uh, i’m going to say the male dominated society such as japan um.
You know if you think you got a battle in south africa: they’ve had a heck of a battle in japan and women uh in the ring are certainly being taken seriously in japan as well.
Oh japan’s got like i said i did the history.
Remember you know japan’s boxing goes back to 1926 when their first gym was, you know, solidified and uh.
It’S because the guy who opened it up decided to travel over to san francisco and learn how to box in the early twenties or sorry the early nineteens.
I think was 1902 19 in around there, and you know 20 years later comes back and uh you know, establishes the first boxing gym in japan and since then, they’ve produced over 30 world champions wow and that’s just one of the gyms.
There is another gym as well which uh their gyms are promotion companies, that’s the way it works over there.
So when you look up the promotion company, it brings up the gym and then tells you a lot about it.
There’S two major gyms in japan, uh and they they’ve been producing fighters.
You know near so they were producing champs.
You know they got a great a great strong boxing culture over in japan and uh, just as many women as men are are involved in it, and you know, i think it’s great what they do over there and, let’s not forget about our friends down under.
Not just new zealand, but australia.
These guys are picking it up too uh.
There’S a lot of women that we’re noticing out of australia, and certainly we’ve highlighted miyamoto out of new zealand several times.
So i really think that the the champions are emerging and they’re inspiring a lot of younger women and those younger women are going to strap on the gloves into the ring.
And that’s why i said it’ll just take a few more years and when that happens, they will be standing on a solid foundation and they will be able to to fight for the best of them that england is producing like a solid factory, that it is right.
Now, yeah definitely definitely but yeah.
Japan, though japan has a ton of women, uh fighters, um and they’re all very active and very popular.
I must say: yeah we we were even that we were focused during the olympics was that, just last year, two years ago we were focusing on uh, for example, countries like india, another male dominated be blunt, and they have a tremendous women.
Have a tremendous interest in boxing in india, fascinating, certainly led by mary kahn she’s, done a great job of promoting the sport and winning at the amateur level at all levels, so hats off, and then the philippines as well.
You see a lot of women emerging in the philippines, so yeah, so i think i think we’re looking up and uh.
As a you know, a simple fan based media channel.
I think we’re doing really well and exposing a lot of this great young talent and having people like yourself on board.
Sheila will only grow an audience for women in boxing and the people who support and surround the boxers went to the ring from the very young ages to those uh upper ages.
And i don’t really know what the upper age is.
It’S yet to be proven.
Uh, because we had we had the canadian heavyweight champ do a show for us, he did about 100 shows ebola and he was, i think, entering his maybe entering his 50s.
I can’t remember, but he said there was an actual age limit.
Uh set down where you could not fight past, i think the age of 50 professional is, i think, although, although mike tyson is league of legends or whatever they call it, mine might be proving me wrong.
Listen, no matter how old mike tyson gets.
He is still one of the most dangerous men on this planet.
He might not be as fast, but he will still tear your head off, and i approve this message: [ Laughter, ] that guy on the plane got away lucky.
He did lucky.
He did honestly like if it was mike tyson from the past.
Remember i don’t know if everybody remembers he uh, you know, did two years after he broke some guy’s jaw when he got into a fender bender with him yeah.
The guy sent us some slurs to him and mike tyson just knocked him out like he’s not that guy anymore, and it really showed that he, you know what that weed is doing him well, that weed is definitely doing him well, because he told he held back That guy was literally on him for 20 minutes.
Like me, i couldn’t deal with it.
I wanted a punch about it, you know what, but that guy should just go home.
You know feeling nice, because you know what you got rough to play.
The champ right, like yo, there’s, there’s one for your bucket list, go home.
Download that video show it to all your friends.
You got roughed up by the champ.
Don’T press no charges, nothing! You know what you deserved.
It you’re lucky.
He didn’t knock you out.
It was funny when i looked at his face afterwards.
He was crazy.
Speaking of mike tyson, wasn’t evander holyfield from atlanta.
Yes, is he still there? I don’t even know anymore to be honest with you, but he probably is i mean he’s fighting in the northeast right.
I mean once you’re in atlanta.
You don’t normally go anywhere here in atlanta.
I have to tell y’all about our peaches.
Our cultures are right.
Oh can you send someone it right? Oh yeah man, oh i’m down for some of those yeah you’ll love them.
Send me a case.
Give me your address.
I’Ve got no pro, no problem, no problem i’ll, give you the address, no problem, yeah man i’ll take a case of them.
What’S georgina for peaches and bulldogs right yeah and producing some great boxers absolutely from the ground up.
Yeah all right mike, what do you got got anything else? Uh? No, it’s just uh! It’S it’s fight weekend! There’S one fight, we’re getting ready for it, guys, don’t forget to watch it tank davis, hopefully his tank’s filled.
You know what it is.
Romero big fight check.
It out, i got nothing else to say sheila.
It was really nice meeting you.
Thank you.
Thank you for coming on.
Welcome to the team.
I know your show is going to do great.
I will definitely uh i’ll.
Definitely push it on my show as much as i can direct everybody.
I know it’s going to be good.
Can’T wait, sheila remind everybody when you’re dropping it when it’s going to start it’s going to start monday on may 30th at 2 o’clock p.
m.
Eastern standard time! So you heard that folks may 30th 2 o’clock p.
m: eastern standard time, the stafford report.
It’S always a pleasure.
I guess we’re gon na get out of here, carl always a pleasure man thanks for tuning in uh, shout out to uh scrapbook boxing as well.
For the comments, much love and respect for all the support guys, we will see you next friday same time same channel new panel, new topics, we’ll see you, then peace, see you guys.
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