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[, Music, ], hey there, boxing fans around the world.
Thank you join us once again here on talk and fight.
Another episode of friday night boxing panel brought to you courtesy of mike orr.
We have us, we have a very special guest in the house tonight.
Natalie brown aka sugar, how you doing it’s too bad! You know what it’s always sweet, getting together with you guys on a friday night.
So i’m happy to be here.
Awesome awesome! Uh.
We typically start the show off with a quick little rundown of some good upcoming fights if mike could be so kind as to what do you got on your mind mike? Well, let’s, let’s first touch on other than other than custom: clayton: okay, okay.
First we’re going to touch on the global titans fight series that wanted uh to see mayweather back in the ring.
We’Re deeply saddened by the announcement of his highness, the president and ruler of abu dhabi, passing away earlier this afternoon, so yeah unfortunately shut everything down.
The sheik was the second president of the uae and the 16th ruler of the uh emirate of abu dhabi.
He amassed, or he assumed the federal constitutional authority as president of the uae and became the ruler of the emirates on the 3rd of november 2004, succeeding his late father and now the fact that he’s passed away uh the united arab emirates, is going on a mourning For the next 40 days, so that has been cancelled so yeah just like that, and it happens just like that.
Yes, so for everybody who is looking to see mayweather jump in that ring the global titans, you know versus don moore.
Unfortunately, it’s postponed due to the passing away of his highness, so unfortunately guys we’re not going to be able to see that, but there’s tons of other good fights coming up this weekend before you go there.
Can i just interject something yeah you can.
Thank you, uh eddie hearn said something very interesting this week.
Actually, as you usually would eddie say, eddie eddie said even okay, so it was related to the auntie and joshua alexander youssef upcoming fight anthony joshua cleanup said he said.
I won’t fight in the uk.
Music turns around says: i want money, so uh eddie, eddie, hearn came along said.
That’S the way the business is going these days, so they’re gon na they’re gon na he’s gon na look to have that fight staged in dubai uh in july.
I believe uh for the money uh.
So despite the fact, you may only have a few thousand fans in attendance.
You’Re gon na make a lot more money on the pay-per-view uh network than they would uh by having it at say, wembley or some kind of uk uh arena anyway.
I just thought i’d throw that in there that the game is changing.
Uh with the introduction of big big money and pay-per-view is changing the game for us.
Well, can i say something absolutely yeah, so i mean for a fighter, especially a fighter such as yousick um.
You know you got ta, weigh the odds you got away.
The odds, anthony joshua is still uh, pretty much a name giant in um in boxing, and so you want to get as a fighter or u6 thinking.
You know i want to get the most out of this experience out of this opportunity and so um your your last fight you’re.
Only as good as your last fight and the your last purse is your last purse, you’re not guaranteed to make anything uh moving forward.
So i think uh thinking about the whole thing.
You know, i think it’s a good move.
I think it was a good request.
Um i i am not excited.
I haven’t been excited about anthony joshua fighting for a very long time.
How do y’all feel about what this matchup is going to? Look like honestly, he ruined it for me when he came out to the rocky song and you know what and you know what it serves him right for coming out to that he lost his damn belt and that’s that’s the curse.
That’S the curse of rocky balboa.
Man, you can’t be coming out to the rocky song getting in the ring and expecting to keep your belt back yeah, because he ain’t no rocky.
That’S no he’s actually exactly so.
Are you coming up to the music yeah right? You know they saved the theme song for the real.
You know for the real brawler for the real bangers and swingers.
You know i i just anthony joshua as a fighter i with his pedigree and all that has come up to today.
I i think he fell so short, um real, lacklustre yeah as far as just his performance as far as what we as the spectators fans from him coming from the olympics, and things like that.
You know you come, he got gold.
You know we expecting him to add to the game and he’s really.
He shocked me by his um non-performance.
That’S right! It was a complete non-performance.
Honestly, i wasn’t impressed with it and he better you better do something better.
This week we have people chiming in.
Oh, my god and last bell boxing: hey, that’s carl from the uk.
What up carl shout out to you, brother, hey baby over in the uk? Yes, honestly, josh all right! So mike mike mike back to you.
We interrupted sorry uh yeah.
We got some good! Oh yeah, sorry mike sorry, no problem, no problem, no problem! Yo! Listen! Here we go tony yoka, undefeated french heavyweight captured olympic gold at the 2016.
Real games takes a major step up in class this saturday in the 10 round main event against the congolese contender.
Martin bakoli, looking forward to this one guys yoko who’s 11-0 with nine ko’s, is already ranked in the top ten by two of the major sanctioning organizations.
He spent the entirety of his pro career fighting in france and has scored a series of standout wins over the likes of johnny rice, um, alexander dimitrienko and former world title challenger, uh joanne, uh de happriest, and in september of 2021.
He knocked out previously undefeated contender, uh peter melis uh in seven rounds, macaulay who’s 17 and one with 13 kos love this kid man who stands six six and often weighs more than 250 pounds to spend much of his eight year.
Pro career based in scotland, he’s won six straight since october 2018.
, uh tko lost to american olympian michael hunter and a run.
That’S included victories over recognizable names like watch, uh, johnson and kuzmin uh.
You know this is a big fight.
Man i’m looking forward to this one uh.
I like both these fighters.
I love both their styles and, like you said sugar styles make matches.
This is definitely one that these styles are gon na, make a great match.
Uh then, in the eight round lightweight contest you have the two-time french olympian and silver medalist uh sophine, uh um, i’m gon na say umaha.
I think that’s how it’s pronounced uh she’s 1-0 with 1ko.
She will battle fellow unbeaten uh buffoni who’s 8-0, with three ko’s at the tokyo olympics and uh lost to keyshawn davis, uh, the eventual silver medalist and current top frank sign.
Standout french prospect, christ.
Little t esbay is 11-0 with three kos and he takes a step up in class against venezuelan uh sandra diaz, who’s, 13, eight and one with nine kos and an eight rounder at the lightweight division.
So i’m looking forward to this card guys.
What are your thoughts on this? I you know i like both yoga and bakoli.
I’M super stoked to see this one.
This is a huge huge card man for me.
I’M super excited for this one.
This one gets underway early too guys um.
I know some of the other ones they all start uh at the exact same time, but this one 3 p.
m.
Eastern time, so you guys can catch that this will be the first one to watch.
Is this taking place in paris? I believe this one is taking place in.
You might be right, uh, a core arena, so a core arena, yeah um.
So that is going to be.
Yes, it is at the accord hotels arena in paris, france work right, graham yeah um.
You know you got 11-0 versus what um what’s the other guy 17-1 and one so i mean it, it does uh raise some concern for me because you know um.
This 11-0 is stepping up putting his o on the line.
You know what i’m saying when you put that o on the line.
That means you know you you, you mean business like so the this 17 and 3 guy.
You know he he’s he’s gotten a taste of defeat: oh 17 and one yeah he’s 17 and one okay.
Well, he’s gotten he’s gotten that taste of defeat right, so i mean that that 11-0 guy i mean 11-0 um – i i am.
I am uh excited to see how hard he will fight to keep that.
Oh, you see what i’m saying because uh 17 and one that’s seven that that one also lets you know that okay, this guy he’s gone through it he’s he’s he’s uh learned from that defeat, hopefully, and uh he’s gon na execute and and be hungry to take This, oh, but when you’re old, when you put that o on the line, you know what i’m saying um: that that changes.
It’S a really big fight for him too right, because he is the number one rated heavyweight in france right now.
Uh he’s only fought on his home soil 11-0 9 kos he’s evenly matched up too man he’s.
You know six seven with an 82 inch reach.
You know weighing in at around 240 pounds where boccoli, you know, he’s six six and usually weighs in over 250, and, i believe, has around an 80 inch street.
These guys are huge.
These guys are monsters.
These guys are monsters and that’s why i’m looking forward to it because honestly wow, so what was the ko raid first, like who’s, got the better ko raid.
They they both have pretty good ko rates.
We got look um.
We got tony yoka who’s supporting almost 82 percent, and then you got martin boccoli who’s, sporting, a 73 percent, so they’re, both roughly in the same, listen yeah, we go now we like we.
We got some good cooking in in this pot.
This this fight sounds like it’s going to be uh, something it’s definitely going to be a banger.
It’S going to be a good way to open up your saturday afternoon, uh.
What’S this carl saying shields is gon na get smashed by marshall when they meet coley? We have interviewed billy nelson, his trainer, who is confident piccoli wins.
You know what honestly man, i’m i’m going with boccoli on this one, myself, man, i like tony yoka, but honestly he you know he hasn’t fought really off his own.
You know off his homeland man like right, get out there.
You got to see the world kid.
You know great, that’s the thing, but uh it’s time to start climbing those international ranks.
This is a huge step up fight for him, but coley is no joke when he gets in there.
He means business he’s going to come to take his head off.
Also debuting is victor yoka younger brother of tony will be debuting on this card as well.
It is a small card, but it’s a good way to start off a saturday afternoon.
Then we get to move in to another card.
Kovalev versus pulav trailer fight club has announced that heavyweight contender jerry, the slugger forest 26, 4 and 2, with 20 ko’s of newport uh will face now two-time world challenger kerbet pulev uh over 10 rounds uh in this event, except for saturday night at the forum, in Los angeles, the hard throwing southpaw forest replaces of who was previously scheduled to face pulav forest returns to the battle following a hotly contested split decision draw against top rated heavyweight contender, michael hunter on december, the 2nd 2021.
So this one’s another big one, man um, you know i’m i’m excited to see this uh only because there’s some some kids on the card that i’ve been watching uh, you know, evan holyfield is back in action again against jermaine mcdonald, evan holyfield.
I saw that one.
Let me tell you something about little evan yo.
I like that.
I used uh me and my ex-husband.
We actually started little evan off in atlanta, so it’s really.
It’S really sweet to be.
Quite you know to be quite honest that he he grew up and – and he really did take this on – to to become a professional doing it um, because he really didn’t have to you know: evan has the legacy his father’s legacy and he’s he’s a little prince Down south there yeah so um, you know stepping up and doing this.
I wish him all the best and and um little boy always had uh weight in his little punches.
So um really looking forward to what he becomes in in this game and and hopefully he gets the guidance uh that he needs from his dad to to become one of them.
I don’t know you know it’s a lot of pressure.
You know the dad is a great yeah, his dad he’s, not man that is great.
The real deal holyfield, you know three-time heavyweight world champion.
Let me tell you something one, i would say argue one of the best heavyweights ever i’ll say that argue with your mama.
If you wan na argue, but no we’re not gon na argue about you know, um evander holyfield is the real deal and let’s hope that now evan uh is a little chip off the old block.
I i you know want to look at him as an individual fighter and himself, but those are some big shoes to fill.
Definitely definitely what what i’m excited for on this card.
To be honest, oh, wait.
A minute, listen! Um! Last bell: what’s my guy’s name last bit from carl from the i spell carl? Listen, you got me.
Okay.
First of all, i don’t see where your girl, marshall is going.
Do nothing to shields [ Laughter, ].
I said it.
What up cedric? Yes, the british champion, uh lennox lewis, did take care of holyfield, but you know what you got to give that’s a better man from the fact that holy heel was a the round out of this card.
Guys.
Are you ready for it yeah? Are you ready? We will be seen in action, fernando vargas, jr amado, vargas and the highly anticipated pro debut of emiliano and vargas.
Yes, guys the first we got the whole family, that’s the whole family on the card.
Fernando vargas dynasty continues with this highly anticipated professional, debut of seven time amateur champion lightweight emiliano vargas.
He will be joining his highly regarded and undefeated brothers on the card at the star making venue junior middleweight, fernando vargas jr is 5-0 with five kos amato.
Vargas is 3-0, with two kos they’re competing in the featherweight division.
They’Re, the sons of three-time junior middleweight world champion fernando vargas and all three belts will take place over four rounds launched less than two years ago.
Trailer fight club has already sold over three million pay-per-views in this past year and they’re definitely going to be selling a hell of a lot when it comes time to this pay-per-view for sure, with this whole vargas dynasty on one card, i can’t wait to see this.
This is what’s rounding out that tony yoga or sorry, the crook, the pulav card, the pool of card, is what it’s rounding out guys so definitely you’re going to want to watch this one.
This one’s on fight tv may 14th, starting at 9, 00 pm.
Okay, that’s on saturday, that’s like yeah, the whole family.
Let’S get it i mean come on.
Can you imagine the whole family fights yeah man, yeah man, big dynasty, fights man, it’s it’s great! It’S great! I’M! Looking i’m looking so forward to this one.
Listen i mean.
Did you fight over the last turkey leg at thanksgiving they’ve been these kids have always been fighting and i’ll tell you.
I follow them all.
On instagram and i’ll tell you, those kids live in that gym.
They work their ass off, they’re, really really good uh.
You know really disciplined really well rounded fighters man from what i can see so far uh this highly anticipated seven time.
Amateur champ, emiliano young, the young one coming out he’s making his pro debut.
This is gon na, be a huge fight for him.
I’M expecting him to come through with probably a first round finish uh for his pro debut man.
Honestly guys you got ta watch this one, but the thing is: is that it’s on at the same time as charlo versus castillano ii? Now, oh, did y’all see the um press conference.
I didn’t get a chance to.
I was gon na watch it after this.
I didn’t see it, but i i i i read.
I didn’t see it, but i read all the comments on my news.
Show uh, because this is this – is jeremel, saying: hey, sorry, fans, sorry, sorry for your loss, but i’m gon na knock this guy out in the first round, yeah like honestly this one’s geared up to you, man.
You know this is this one’s for the unified wbc, wba ibf world champion and wbo world champion.
So this is.
This is an undisputed here.
You know uh they will meet in a rematch, and this is most significant fights as they can.
You know again seek to become the first ever undisputed 154 pounder in the fourth era.
So this is history making this fight guys.
This is going to be a big one.
This is why charlo is not gon na.
Take this slightly.
That’S.
Why he’s looking to come in here and just take his head off? Uh carl yeah charlo wins and then i hope liam smith gets the fight.
That’S where i think it’s going to be honest, uh! That’S what that’s what i’d like to see as well? I do think that charlo is gon na come through on this one.
For sure, though he he ain’t, you know he ain’t there to work overtime.
Man he’s he’s getting in there getting the job done and that’s it.
You know he wants.
He wants to undispute that 154 pound be the first ever in history to do it go down in the history books as the only one in the four belt era to be able to do that and honestly, he has the tools to do this one.
I’M super excited.
What do you guys think on this one? First mail? Yes, thank you for the because i want to you know i don’t want to have to say that all the time so thanks [ Laughter ].
I am going to mention this, though jared enos castillo clayton, on that on that uh co-main event there, man and uh i’m looking forward to this one too because got ta rep, my guy castile clayton, the canadian 1901 going up against jiren boots, edis who’s 28 and Oh right now, uh, you know i’m i’m gon na, say uh, i’m calling clayton man for this one.
Just because i got ta rep, my canadian boy get behind him.
We did talk to his cousin uh.
His cousin did inform us that castillo is ready for this.
One he’s been waiting for it and he ain’t there to take no names or prisoners he’s coming to finish this so where’s he fighting out of my mikey montreal man.
All these canadians have flocked to montreal montreal.
That seems to be the destination where the hottest kitchens are.
You know it used to be ontario when you know when it went out back in the day, [, Music, ], [, Laughter, ], that’s another story.
For another day.
He absolutely sabotaged a lot of stuff.
He did, i said it ken.
I said it right, yeah like he stopped a lot of great things from from going on um in in ontario, and so that’s why you know.
I think that that’s really um how quebec picked up and and started, you know doing a lot more, because i’m telling you um being being that i was fighting out of ontario.
It was tough, it was really tough.
It was tough for me to get uh women in to fight me.
You know because he had to um, approve them.
Uh women and you know sugar would never bring in no tomato can.
But you know it’s like you know.
Come on man like i i’m off a hiatus, i ain’t going [ __ ], like i can’t fight a killer like you want me: [, Music, ], [, Music, ], oh [, Music, ], yeah.
It’S going to be hard guys! I’M i’m sorry! It’S okay! Champ! It’S! Okay, enjoy rolf is seven three and one uh.
This one’s uh, headed up like i’ve, been talking about it for a while he’s 18 1-1 and he’s taking on marklin bailey who’s, seven and seven uh guys.
This is just a bunch of up-and-comers that uh, you know yeah record gerardo martinez, um and you know: we’ve got uh against tyree arnold.
So that’s the fight that tim is at right now, guys, okay, um mike! I know you you’re dropping in these guys.
Right now, can i [ Music ] um.
There is some lady fights happening um tonight actually or what happened today can can i drop them yeah, definitely definitely and then i’ll touch on the last card.
Okay yeah, so i mean just you know not just at the afterthought, but we we got um some fights happening over there in turkey.
First of all, you know amateur wise, and i know this is a pro show.
Yeah, the women’s world championships are actually happening this year, so you know chatting with that’s where you’re going to see the future.
You know you’re going to see the the future abroad bad broads, coming in and um it’s it’s quite interesting uh.
I think the amateur game has really included the women’s pro game, but that that’s something that i’m going to talk about on wednesday on the sugar show but um uh yusel of turkey uh fighting uh.
Her name is happy dottie of tanzania and i’m not going to give no records or nothing because, like i, i always say in women’s boxing and it’s the shenanigans are sold are so thick in our industry.
You just got ta like the girl, you got, you got ta like the the broad that’s fighting, so um they’re, both bangers styles make fights they’re, both bangers and um.
The thing about um happy is uh.
She she fought uh up-and-coming uh welterweight, that’s out there, ikram kirwan she’s, trying uh kerwat’s been trying to hit that uh jackpot in in um being a top contender, but she can’t pass none of the gatekeepers.
So i just wanted to mention that um we got katharina uh, then yeah fender is or something like that.
I’M bad with the names.
I’M sorry y’all for butchering it out of norway, uh fighting teresa uh, dorcova, um and uh those two they’re banger in katharina versus boxer, because styles make fights um katharina lost to terry harper.
So you know this is a german woman trying to redeem herself trying to get something under her belt um, but uh, theresa, derkova, she’s, um she’s from the czech republic.
The only thing about um theresa is that she, you know, i call them four and forty fighters.
She fought uh a fighter named um bojana uh lebazowski, who is seven, wins 46 losses.
You know, so that’s her only claim to fame um, notably on her record so um.
We know that this is a win for katharina and hopefully she’ll get back up into contention and um.
Moving on to the next female bout, which is hannah, rankin, uh, britain’s fighting tonight, uh versus alejandra um, ayala of mexico, okay, um uh, hannah rankin, you all know she’s a boxer but she’s, not she’s.
I really don’t think her.
The boxer style suits her.
We had her on the show we talked to hannah rankin.
We had her on, i know y’all i would.
I wish i would have been a 10.
You know on on the line with that.
You know, but yeah you set up your own fight.
Listen, they could all get some sugar right.
You know what they could they.
They calling me now like you’re, calling me now that you know you think yeah, you think i’m done you’re calling me now anyway, um rang uh hannah rankin is fighting alejandra ayala of mexico.
Uh and alejandra has fought savannah marshall and uh mary eve uh, the carey of uh quebec.
Is it so she’s fought some good contenders, but she is a journey woman.
So i think this is just something to get up.
Uh get uh a notch on the belt.
For hannah rankin to probably get up in contention and my guy uh um from from goodness from britain coming in last bell, boxing rankin versus jonas, is uh up next thoughts on hannah ranking.
My thoughts on hannah rankin is, like i said her style, don’t suit her she’s, not a boxer she’s too slow, okay, um, but she is durable and tough enough to be a pressure banger, which is what i would turn her into.
If i had anything to do with her management and her camp um, because if she did, if she did start now, walking these women down these females down, hannah can take a lot of damage.
Okay and she she gives like she can take.
And you know if the right fight hannah ranking can turn this whole deal around for herself and be a contender really uh dangerous out there in the rankings? Okay, so that’s it! Uh natasha, jonas, now uh great boxer, great boxer.
She moved from lightweight to middleweight and i just commend her on that and i wish her all the luck there.
Yeah jonas beats ranking for sure.
For me we got another card guys, another one.
I got ta touch on this one.
We’Ve got ta touch on this.
One all right, i have one more female question, though: okay go ahead, then go ahead.
I i thought jessica.
Mccaskill was fighting this weekend.
Yes, she is, but i get to it.
Graham.
Oh sorry, sorry i have the list.
Graham sorry, all right, mike mike what i [ Laughter ], all right, all right mike she was fighting against alma abrera.
She is fighting yes, yeah, that’s a good one man and that’s for that’s an undisputed.
That’S an undisputed championship match man, wbc wba, ibf, wbo, ibo, that one’s huge man, female welter, titles um.
So it’s a welterweight match yeah and that’s where mccaskill is sitting right now, um and what i’m hoping is um i mean it seems like it to me.
It seems like she’s, got some powerful people behind her because she has been able to hold on to these belts fighting, i have to say, mediocre opposition.
So uh, hopefully you know natasha.
I would this is my dream match now: natasha jonas versus jessica, mccaskill um, i’m hoping that that’s somewhere in the future um and i’m i just i’d love to see more of mccaskill i’d like to see mccaskill up.
You know step up like you step up and you you fought me like they.
They sucked me down to one uh to lightweight to fight her, but you know without the shenanigans now jessica, mccaskill fight some opposition that is gon na now make us respect you, because uh, the only respectable opponent that i see besides sugar was um, cecilia brachas, when She ended up fighting cecilia and until this day i really don’t see how jessica beat cecilia, but it looked like cecilia was getting long in the tooth anyway, so it was time for her to go and you know sanctioning bodies, it’s all about the money.
It’S really not about the fighter, it’s about the money and how long that money can can get so uh the the time the clock was taken on cecilia breakus and uh.
They they transferred.
You know all the titles now to jessica mccaskill who holds on to them, but mccaskill, listen, sanctioning bodies, ain’t got no loyalty to nothing but the money.
Okay, that’s why they turned you to fight for your own belt.
Thank you.
If you don’t step up and fight somebody that we care about you, ain’t going to make no money, no and them section destination and body now is going to start feeling out there for somebody who’s going to make that money right.
Ain’T no reserve seats at the top.
You got it, you got to stay.
You got to stay interesting and see.
You know right now, like i i i don’t see it as yet, but all the best to you mccaskill this weekend and um.
I hope we we.
We have um better fights to come: okay, yeah, so go ahead.
Hi mike here it is got ta mention this did an interview thursday, especially no wednesday special interview, wednesday uh kareem supreme, hackett toronto native light heavyweight, arguably the best light heavyweight in canada right now, 9-0.
Looking to stay undefeated going up against jose albano this one’s good, because this is on the ramirez versus bozell card.
I can’t wait to see this one guys if you all remember former world champion and light heavyweight mexican boxing star gilberto zergo ramirez who’s 43-0, with 29 kos will face former wba intern light heavyweight world champion dominic bosell who’s 32-2 with 12 kos.
This one is great man um, the 12 round fight will pit the wba number one ranked mozelle against the number two wba ranked ramirez in a winner takes all event that will propel the winner to the door of a world championship fight.
The co-main event will feature one of the most exciting mexican boxers in the lightweight division and that’s the undefeated william zepeda who’s 25-0 with 23 knockouts, and he will be defending his wba continental america’s lightweight title against resilient former world champion renee alvardo, who’s, 32 and 11.
With 21 knockouts in a 10-round lightweight fight, and this one is to take place at kyoto, arena in ontario, california, and we’ll stream live exclusively on the zone.
After a spectacular back-to-back, knockout victories over cuba’s uh sullivan barrera in july of 2021 and janet gonzalez in december of 2021 gilberto ramirez is knocking on the door of the world championship title shot when he faces dominic wazelle zerto is committed to continuing his winning and uh Knockout streak, as he proves that he is an elite feared fighter in this light heavyweight division.
Having previously held the wbo super middleweight world championship, zerto is ready to conquer another weight class uh on his own world to glory man honestly he’s ranked number one by the wba number five by the wbc in the light heavyweight division, bozell formally held the wba interim Heavyweight world championship in 2020 and currently holds the ibo world light heavyweight title.
The german fighter is set to make his u.
s debut um on this may 14th card uh and he’s determined to make a good showing uh.
You know for the passionate socal boxing fans man, because we all know how big the socal boxing fan base is.
Um, you know defeating zerto would cement him standing in the world rankings, putting him closer to another world title shot having faced previously unbeaten fighters like sam edbourne and tony alvarez, and winning multiple regional titles like the wba continental light heavyweight title and the wbo continental light Heavyweight title bozell is ready to prove he is the best at 175.
um guys this card’s huge, can’t wait to see this one, our boy kareem supreme, hacket, look out for this kid man, 9-0 and sport.
I believe it is seven kos.
You know we just had uh.
We just had this kid on the show man, 31 year old, southpaw toronto, canada, six, two look out for this kid man and he’s probably who’s his handler like who’s training, him uh right now, right now, he’s been signed by three play management and he has actually Been training with billville, zerto and uh david benavidez, so he’s been he’s been training with some greats and uh he’s promised us that uh since he’s just signed with this new management team.
This is not a test for him when he takes on his contender uh.
This is a showing so guys this will be a showing he promises us it ain’t going past the third round, the first one’s for show the second one’s the field, the third one’s to go.
That’S what he’s promised us all right! So, let’s can i say something: yes, you may okay, i i got to like wait.
We i i i’m sorry, i got ta be bad.
Okay, i got ta, be the bad girl.
Let’S do it when you nine and know when you sub 15 yeah as a professional fighter and you guaranteeing uh when the fight’s gon na end or whatever results or whatever.
I’M sorry baby.
You ain’t you ain’t cooking with crisco, yet the grease ain’t, hot, the grease ain’t hot enough – he’s point he’s pointing to that left field.
Man home run right i mean i wish him all the best i i know he does all right.
I mean nine and he’s seven ko she’s, oh sorry, five ko’s, five kos yeah nine and oh five, ko’s nine and oh five kos yep yeah.
You got ta, listen that that sounds like sweet talk.
I want some foreplay.
Okay, that’s what i’m saying! I’M scared! I’M sure if he was here he’d be spitting mad for play.
You can’t give me that you can’t tell me i’ma get the ooh ah, and you only got five kos out of nines and punches.
I mean nine uh fights, yeah and then you’re going to guarantee me mm-hmm.
No, not like you, i i i that that sounded like sweet talk.
You said you said you’re saying he’s a little too bold, you’re being a little too bad.
That’S all i’m saying! Listen! You gon na promise me to ooh.
You got ta.
Give me you know, i got ta see you guys got ta, be warmed up.
First got ta be warmed up in the streets.
Now, that’s all he did.
He did shoot down.
He did shoot down to mexico.
Early in his career uh to get some fights out of the way because of the pandemic plus, you know toronto didn’t really have nothing to offer him, so you know he had to go where it is.
Uh he’s hooked up with the right kind of people.
He’S.
Definitely improved every fight that i’ve seen uh and he’s being compared and now he’s uh.
You know he’s in there sparring bible, benavidez he’s in there sparring ramirez, so he’s getting that ring experience.
Okay, i think we’re about to see a different, a different kareem packet.
This weekend, uh also first toronto, man ever to be on an oscar de la hoya promotions card.
Bang, there you go, there’s some hits.
Okay, money moves in the background sounds good.
No, i got ta rep, my boy man for the six right i mean i want to rep.
I wonder: listen, i’m out to sex too.
Don’T threaten.
You know you.
You don’t tease me with a good time unless you’re going to deliver.
That’S all i got to say no problem right now.
I deliver i deliver every time mike.
I believe you, i believe you mike that’s right.
I don’t know about homeboy, but i believe you [ Laughter ].
I want to touch.
I want to touch uh on on this uh new rankings.
The new rankings list man well, can i address my.
Can i address my guy over there in uk because he looked like he.
He looked like he.
He wants some of this okay.
Talking about savannah marshall.
Will be the biggest name in female boxing when katie taylor hangs the gloves up right, she will be the next name in boxing for sure this is what i got to say.
This is what i got to say.
Okay, you got ta respect the game.
Okay, there are female fighters, stars are being born and stars are being made every year.
Every six months, okay and just like terry harper got floored, because i thought she was headed.
You know terry harper, you know i thought she was going to be around.
I thought she was going to take over after katie to be honest right and she got she got van ganger came out and right you never know, you never know right and there’s uh, there’s some cup there’s some names out here that savannah ain’t touched on just Yet so we can’t call it they’ve made katie taylor a superstar right, and i think hearn has done a great job at that i don’t.
I mean she’s, very her style right.
She has merged track and field with boxing and i think it’s an amazing style.
Okay, um and she’s very skillful right, but i’m looking for unless savannah marshall can deliver um [ Music ], a performance that is going to get millions of people interested like katie taylor has, i don’t think i i don’t think she has a seat reserved up there At the top right, katie taylor is a million dollar name thanks to tom uh, thanks to hearn right there, there’s no million dollar, there’s no million dollar name after katie taylor hangs up and that’s my fear with women’s boxing, and that’s always been the thing that kills Women’S boxing right one queen one queen how many weight classes are there 17.
and we got only one queen.
We can’t keep doing that right.
There has to be baddies in every weight.
There has to be interest in every weight class and, if you and if we keep, if we keep putting that one queen up and when she’s done we’re done, we ain’t gon na make no money.
True true, graham, what do you have to say there? I think this uh brings us right up to speed and uh full circle.
With respect to the conversation we were having prior to the broadcast, when we were talking about the found lists that have just been released by espn uh, both male and female.
So if you want to take, let’s take a look at that, starting with the women’s and we’re talking about them.
Uh according to espn kate, taylor is number one followed by clarissa shields, then amanda serrano, then justin, mccaskill and then michaela mayer, so uh.
One of your one of your favorite sugar: that’s nice! Number, six savannah savannah, marshall’s number, seven delphine person number eight, christina hammer: number nine [, Music, ] she’s, actually tied tied for number nine with fran sean cruz.
Discern! Oh, come on! Why didn’t he do my girl life? Didn’T french on just win an undisputed championship? Friendship just won the undisputed she’s tied with somebody who hasn’t fought in come on.
This is why, yes, espn not tell me nothing about women’s boxing, maybe mailboxing, but we got to make our own rankings y’all talking fights what i said: yeah man, the talking fight rankings.
Let’S do it like that, let’s make it legit because come on you can do don’t.
I always say this because my coach used to always tell me this when i was bull driving you ain’t going spring powder, sprinkle powdered sugar on a turd and tell me it’s a donut right.
I ain’t down for that book.
I eat dinner for that [ __ ] right, so you know i mean there’s some names on the list that are worth mentioning.
Yes, but the order of the list and all of that.
No, no, no like there are some contenders out there.
That really do deserve to be on the list and some on the list that really you know you got it, they don’t deserve to be on the list.
I mean how do you i want to know how you got men, how my men feel about what they see on the list.
Is it some are, is? Are these rankings um, i think they’re a little, i think, they’re a little biased.
I, like i honestly come on.
I mean what makes a baddie for y’all y’all tell me so i i can slump another baddies over hmm slumping other baddies over.
I mean yeah, but you know katie taylor’s, a baddie man, she’ll slice, you up, yeah she’ll slice.
You like a christmas ham, okay with all the fixing.
Yes right, but you know yeah we’re girls, ain’t, slumping, girls! No more that do you know that christie.
Martin era is over.
You know bangers.
I mean everyone wants to be a banger but ain’t.
Nobody banging nobody out: okay, um.
I think styles make fights big time in women’s boxing, but i want to know what i want to know what you you, men are looking for, because that’s who we fight for y’all’s attention.
You know we we fight for for men who legitimately watch boxing.
We we want to know what it is that we need to do: uh in our industry, to to beef up and and to get to get money and and your anticipation our way uk and female boxing.
Would you guys agree with that? I i am agreeing with that.
You don’t agree every single monday to friday.
I have a new show and on that news show i broadcast news around the world featuring fighters from around the world and i’m constantly amazed by how many up-and-coming names i’m mentioning on that show that no one’s not even heard of and they may be, sporting a Sub 10 fight history, but what i’m saying is the industry’s growing through women in the boxing service right, especially uh, take a look at australia.
I was just gon na, say australia, but it’s tough to get anybody from there and even even uh.
I’Ve seen some really good japanese uh fighters, who we don’t even know about uh, there’s, actually some good french and german fighters now uh that we’ve.
Never we don’t mention, we don’t talk about them, except on top yeah and – and i think that our own david lara has interviewed quite a few uh fighters from europe.
Uh yeah.
You know there are some good fighters coming out of britain without a doubt uh, but in terms of media exposure, uh, there’s a lot of other fighters out there in in the women’s ranks that just simply aren’t mentioned and – and i think i think, jake paul to His credit uh has elevated the status of amanda serrano and to the point now where women’s boxing is being recognized in the legitimate sport where they’re paid properly, and so now you can see you’re going to see true competition.
I think in the next year – and i think the one the one that broke it open was ebony bridges, because everyone took her as a flake.
Everyone just thought she was a blonde bombshell and when she fought toe-to-toe – and she came out with that big black guy – i mean that was what kristy martin part two, you remember when chrissy martin yeah blood drains.
He is one tough lady man yeah right.
So this isn’t part two, it’s like you know it.
It’S it’s a it’s a thing that i mean.
We know the formula right.
We know the formula um christie, martin was a banger and she wasn’t afraid to to get messy to get shot, blood and opponent’s blood going in that ring right, but um i mean grandma said it.
You know the names are coming up and they’re sub 10 right, but um.
Let me tell you what the flying the ointment is with the women.
Graham, it’s hard to make it past 10 fights it’s hard to make it 210 fights if you’re a top contender, because nobody wants to fight, especially if you’re doing good.
Nobody wants to fight you, and you know you take the risk to leave your country to leave your backyard to go fight and then you get robbed.
You get horrible decision and things like that.
So now everyone all the women – are in a stalemate position, because no one wants to move.
No one wants to fight, no one wants to put they o on the line.
Everyone wants to be a queen, and i want to expressly um.
You know say this: i i want to to emphasize this that female boxing is not in the place where your record matters anymore.
I’M sorry, everyone’s a winner, everyone gets surprised.
Everyone got a belt.
Why participation medals all around yeah? If you can pay for a belt, then you’ll get a belt.
I could have bought a belt.
I want to buy the belt.
I wanted to beat some.
I wanted to beat a baddie for a belt right.
I was caught.
I was waiting on cecilia breakers.
I knocked on her door.
I all of these i was going to go down for jill, jillian magenovic right and what she did was she invited me to edmonton for an exhibition just to see how she do or whatever and uh me being.
I wasn’t that smart.
I should have let her kind of bang me around for the exhibition, but so i could get the fight, but i had to spank her i just had to so that was it for me.
You know jolene.
I couldn’t get no play from jelena um.
You know.
None of the women in ontario would fight me it.
It was very hard, so i mean graeme.
I hear you, but the theme of women’s boxing is not many of us get to 10 plus you know or pl, not many of us get to 10 and it’s very hard to get to plus 10 because you have to be.
You have to have a strong promoter and you have to have a promoter like hearn or uh top rank like michaelas per more to just buy your bodies because at a certain point, they’re not fighting contenders now they’re just fighting bodies, so they could say.
Oh look.
Look at me, i’m pretty and i’m fighting not i’m a baddie and bring them on.
So i’m hoping that, with each olympics, with each world championships with each with each um wave of batty coming on the scene that the the cream will rise to the top and the the pool will be so filled with sharks.
Yeah that you have no choice now, but to fight someone who’s gon na make you extend yourself.
All of these women are great they’re.
All great.
I don’t agree with a lot of them that have that ranking in their place, but they’re skilled enough to be taken seriously right, but how it’s going now.
You guys – and i just wanted to hear from y’all, because it’s really a popularity contest and i want y’all to look at women fighting for what it is women behaving badly and i want to hear from y’all i enjoyed that fight yeah i enjoy.
I i enjoy seeing ebony bridges, fight and y’all going to censor me but come on.
You got boobies and you can throw down you’re right right, girl get it girl.
Let’S call the thing again.
So i mean it is what it is.
Um ebony you looking good out there um and and all these names coming out of japan and all of that stuff i went to fight.
I actually was the first female fight in japan.
I fought fujin, rika and um.
You know i i gave everybody the i gave everybody the formula to beat fuji and that’s the one one of the fights that i regret.
I should have knocked her.
I should have fought her to knock her out, but i fought it to show the japanese that, yes, we are skillful and we can box.
You know i went in there being nice for the greater good of women’s boxing.
You went in there.
You went in there as sugar and [ __ ] yeah, you went in there with sugar and you should have been too bad.
I should have been too bad, but you know you live and you learn – and here i am talking about it with you guys and i you know it is what it is we’re getting to that time, graham and all right 30 seconds here, yeah we uh, we Started off talk and fight uh with a female host by the name of scarlett delgado, who produced about 100 shows for us called the female fist, and she promoted women’s boxing every single week.
She right now and and of course, at the world championships yeah she’s over there right now.
She won her first uh match uh and she’s gon na it’s a part of a tournament, so she’s gon na fight again, but uh there’s a great example of uh.
You know another fighter, uh i’ll, be from canada, but you don’t hear about them, often, but they’re out there they’re skilled, well, she escape from under the shadow of mandy bergold right, because there was only one queen right, like i keep saying and she kept coming.
I remember scarlett from when she was a junior.
You know what i’m saying: she’s been great she’s been doing great things.
There were other great young, canadian women.
Canadian women have been us, have been a problem on the scene for years because you got to put up with canadian men.
Oh okay, that’s what that’s why when they come out they’re all bad asses man they’ve been putting them up, they are bad, always been always been so yeah, uh, scarlet, scarlet’s good.
I think her dad trained her uh um, delgado, yeah and and she she’s a very skilled fighter, but you know, like i said there have.
There are many and um i heard um.
What’S our girl that that was a beast and then she kind of fell off she’s back on the scene.
Come on now camaro he was the cover girl.
Oh okay, camaro got to take a break.
Yes, there’s only one there’s a there’s.
Only one cover girl in my boxing world and that’s avril matthew and actually she yeah after matthew, look her up.
Uh she’s undefeated.
I think n2701, that uh she fights out of miami via australia, yeah uh and uh.
I’Ve heard of her yeah she’s he’s on a card coming up in june uh.
I believe it’s in that in atlanta, actually um or anyway anyway.
Anyway.
I digress when she gets involved come on now, y’all got ta come on, she was y’all, can’t be forgetting these women right now like come on.
She fought clarissa shields and clarissa was the one that took her title from her come on now, who which one, oh you’re, talking about the the our model, woman, the the um, the the canadian female champ.
She was the she was like four-time world champion before mandy, but y’all y’all gave up on my girl mandy on the scene.
Mandy was in her shadow, you mean you mean to care no you’re free either.
Oh y’all did y’all doing my girl too bad come on.
Now, all right, all right, she was out of windsor y’all going to remember when the show come off.
Wait.
Wait, wait! Wait! I don’t remember, after doing where said where’s cedric, when you need them right, where cause cedric cedric used to help train her holy crap, mary spencer.
Yes, oh mary, spencer, okay, all right i’ll be doing my girls y’all be doing us, so i think she’s still fighting.
I think mary spencer’s signing up – and i think now we talked before my guy out there in the uk last bell boxing when, when savannah marshall fight mary spencer, then we can talk about who’s going, who who’s going to take over because mary spencer’s bad right fighters Got a lot going on in their life, and maybe she couldn’t you know complete the the the job as an amateur but now she’s a pro and she’s a pro.
That’S come back from a lot, so she’s fighting at the end of the month against yamila, renault and then she’s scheduled again.
I believe it’s uh june, the 23rd against chris nemus, oh chris namas, chris namas, is a crone like she’s she’s.
Just doing it now to get a paycheck and that’s pretty good – i mean it’s okay.
Now we can get paid, it’s not a bad thing right like when i was coming up, it’s bittersweet for me, because i know these women are getting paid now.
Yeah right, you had to be good to get paid, or you had to put a lot on the line to get your money’s worth out there in boxing right.
So now these women – oh now you could break out now you you want a box because you can get.
You can get some money per round.
I think us women from before that we used to fight we used to bleed for pennies.
You know what i’m saying we still we we need that honorable mention still.
We need our flowers, we we we need still to get mentioned because, if uh like to say the least, look at the old school women boxing compared to now we ain’t as pretty, but we used to give it always yeah.
This is always pretty look me up.
Evil, even listen.
You still got [ Music ].
I wish you guys could see the boots that i’m talking about.
I guess i guess this is part one and we’ll have uh sugar back on next week.
Yeah! Oh, i would love that.
Definitely that’d be awesome, but yes, it was at the time we are at the time.
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