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EPISODE: Episode 1
Tonight’s discussion covers the upcoming bout Shadasia Green vs Olivia Curry and the details surrounding Both contenders.
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Engineers, [ Music, ], [, Music, ], hey y’all, hey, so it’s 7 30 on a Wednesday night and you’re here with sugar Natalie sugar brown, and this is the Natalie sugar brown show.
Okay, and for those who are new, I’m going to introduce myself.
I am Natalie sugar brown, I’m a woman, pugilist boxer woman, boxer, I’ve grown up in this industry.
I have um been a part of a lot of Firsts okay, and so I speak the language, and I know how things go enough so much so that I now have a platform to share all the in between the lines.
Type of conversations that you would want to have about women’s boxing for those who are true thanks for thanks for meeting sug every Wednesday at 7, 30 and chatting me up because you guys I’m talking to all of y’all.
Now it’s a conversation.
Yes, the conversation is about uh, we is.
This is where you come to talk women’s boxing and it’s not women’s boxing numbers and percentages and statistics.
No right.
We talk about the life lifestyle, we’re talking about women Behaving Badly, we’re talking about what all of that translates into the growth of the industry of women’s boxing right.
What kind of bad makes us money right? So I’m not sure I’m really not sure how long tonight’s show will be, but tonight we want to talk about an upcoming match between two contenders out here in women’s boxing, and one of those contenders may be a bit interesting, more interesting than the other right.
So it’s green She-Hulk, okay, um, just starting off that just gon na open open up with thanking all my guys here at talk and fight for um making sure they make time for sure going on Wednesday nights, because sometimes we go way way way way way way Way down into the evening, chime in ask questions.
Ask any question, but this is not no one’s quizzing, you, your opinion is respected.
We may not see eye to eye and agree on a lot of things right and yeah.
I’M gon na call you on your [ __ ], and you know what I’ve been calling mine too right, but we having a conversation about it and like to hear it here, go so um, my lovely assistant.
Can you please start off okay.
So this weekend, this fighter here to my uh, if you’re looking at the screen, it would be my left.
Am I right you guys? I’M sorry, like I really foreign over here over this way to my right, okay, um, Olivia! Curry is a contender who will be fighting this in the super weight and super middleweight division um she will be fighting.
Should Asia, green okay, so um did a little homework on this bitty here, okay, and so you know, I was saying this – you know out of anybody out of everyone that could have gotten such a wonderful opportunity on this Jake Paul card.
That’S coming up, you know, because Jake Paul and now he he’s he’s really he’s – become a known promoter right and he’s good at promoting fights now and he’s featuring women on his cards.
So this sub 10 fighter Olivia Curry, gets a break huh uh, the Matchmaker.
Did they job, I guess um and Olivia, Curry: seven wins two Kos one loss um by uh and she lost early in her career uh by a fighter named Karina Ortiz, who was 1-0 uh when she um fought her.
So she she lost to a pro debuter.
Okay, man, with my picture, go y’all, don’t play that don’t play like that, so Olivia, Curry who’s, a pitcher uh you see up.
There has uh uh.
She she has uh some.
She has a bit of a background.
She was an amateur fighter as well as a Muay Thai Fighter, okay and she has been on platforms uh doing both in you know in in arenas where people came to watch her on an amateur in a pro level.
Okay, I’m not going down play shouty! Okay, because everyone’s got a Fighting Chance, see you stepped up to the boogeyman shadesha green, yes right because your days are green is now supposed to be the one this, the one.
Now all right, um this, the one! That’S going! That’S going to be the the problem um for for all of those who are on who are on top, but let’s talk about.
Let’S talk about what like why it’s where’s the excitement? Okay, but first, let’s give Olivia Curry a little bit of shine.
This is this.
Will probably be one of if not the biggest one of the biggest fights of her entire career, okay, uh lovely assistant.
Let’S go on to the next one, um image, please, okay, so there she go.
She got the the USA boxing amateur uniform on on honor.
Okay, so this is what this is: what fighters who sign up for these prestigious tournaments General? This is the you know.
This is the outfit, so you know that she’s participated in tournaments.
She’S been a part of the the she’s she’s been a part of the culture.
Okay, so to speak of climbing and getting that experience and coming through the filter of amateur boxing okay, so she was doing it, she did it she.
She was a USA boxing fighter right.
I always bring up this point right that a fighter can come from any background.
Okay, what they’re trying to sell now is: oh all, fighters all good Fighters, especially in women’s boxing, have good amateur pedigree right, which I think cheapens our Terrain, because yeah amateur the amateurs is one Avenue: okay, sanctioned USA box, whatever iiba, if that’s even who they are Now I’ve been out of it for so long, the amateur scene.
That’S one! That’S one way: that’s like going getting your education going to college, getting your master’s in doctorate degree, okay and then you have other avenues where people have experiences and they learn from their experiences, meaning the underground.
Okay and fighting, especially when you decide to become a professional.
Well, the background does not determine your value.
Your performance determines your value, okay, so I I always encourage, even when I see when I see these broads in the bars in the parks in the backyards, I always encourage them to keep going right.
Smarten up keep going because one day, one day right, you’ll make it to where you want to go just like these sanctioned amateurs that uh take the take the um sanctioned way.
But I digress so this fighter right here, that’s her as an amateur Olivia Curry.
Next image lovely assistant, please, okay, so there she goes and she I mean that was up amateur picture, a picture of her as an amateur and now clearly you see that um.
This is her as a pro okay um.
She – and you could tell by you, know that she her her hands, are gauzed and taped up right.
We ain’t using hand wraps no more right.
We we we really getting ourselves um, we’re really getting ourselves loaded up right, so we so them knuckles can go come through the through the gloves um.
So this fighter here she fought at middleweight.
Okay, middleweight is like in the just call it the 150s okay and she’s had most of her experiences in that in in that division, big tall girl, five, ten and um.
You know I’ve.
I’Ve seen I’ve seen this type before you know, as as you grow and develop in fi in the fight world, you you can kind of categorize the body types and what to expect from them right.
So, looking at this this one, this this one is the typical um, bigger middleweight, broad she’s, probably bottom heavy I’ve seen I mean I’m looking at I’ve, looked at her pictures and so she’s bottom heavy.
That means she’s.
She ain’t too crafty with the movement she gon na, be right there in front of you and she’s going to be moving forward right, and so you got ta use your your head and you got to use your strategy to have a game plan against a fighter.
Like this right, because that doesn’t mean that they can’t do damage, they can’t hurt you, they can’t win.
That doesn’t mean that okay, anyway, you see she got the blood on her face.
She’S smiling right.
She wanted them that, like that right so um, you could tell that she she wants to get in there.
She don’t mind leaking She Gon na, Make You leak and she didn’t y’all gon na just be playing in it.
Okay, um, which gives me a bit of background on her style kind of personality she has when she behaves badly okay, so this one this this broad she goes in there and for the sake of fighting, that’s what she’ll do she’ll fight just for the sake of Fighting right she want to win, but she liked to be in there whether she getting her ass, whipped or not.
Fighting and um.
You know, that’s that’s the type, that’s a type that is, you know, that’s a type that, as you grow as a fighter, male or female right, because you you got males like that too.
Those are the ones who help you figure stuff out in there because they’re game right, you could hit them, they take and they give and there’s.
Sometimes I used to hate this, but um a couple get they get hit with like a couple of them, get hit with that shot and they come back.
Then they go.
You know y’all y’all, who fight y’all, y’all, know what I’m talking about right.
They come back and they smile and nod their head.
I’M like [, __ ], what you smiling at, which you not in your head for.
Oh you like that.
Okay, here’s like three or four more knuckle sandwiches, how you like that you’re full you know, but anyway, um.
Look at this.
This broads um statistics, okay, um! She is ranked number three in the world.
I mean I’m looking at BoxRec, this [ __ ] is crazy.
She’S ranked number three in the world with seven, with eight fights um on BoxRec out of 34 middleweights in the world, Craig in the world, so that alone, you know.
This is why I’m I’m having the we’re doing this show, because all of a sudden women boxing just done got cool right.
I’M surfing, you know serving the Cyber the cyberverse and you got all these talk shows and all these people they have guessed and everyone’s talking about women’s boxing and and everybody can make a show out of it.
I’M like since, when right, um and what are y’all talking about right, you have been these like everybody can get these bras as guests on this show.
That’S why sugar? Don’T I mean sugar, don’t have guests um, because you know I the the show is for the show is for you guys, the fans of women’s boxing.
That’S really what the show is for the show is for these conversations where I have a platform to you could come, and you can talk that talk fine with it as long as you as long as you don’t get disrespectful right and that’s what I don’t.
You know I mean I I I know that you know that’s what is not out there with these other platforms, Because unless you notice [ __ ], unless you know what you’re talking about when somebody comes with what they think and what they believe about certain things.
If you don’t know what you’re talking, if you don’t know the game right, then uh they can hurt your feelings.
They can embarrass you, you know they.
It can turn negative right, but as a as a woman, pugilist I’ve, my experiences and before you know, before women’s boxing even became something where a seven in one fighter like her, can go on a platform and jump heads now of all great contenders.
You know, like she’s, she’s doing what they used to do like, I guess back in the early 90s, when you know um it, it didn’t matter like there’s abroad, a woman, a crone like me, you know one of us needs to step up and say and talk About it and talk about the [ __ ] right, um, so she’s ranked number three in the world all of a sudden, uh Olivia, Curry, okay, she’s ranked number two in the United States.
Let me tell y’all backyard boxing bar button.
These unsanctioned, where y’all at where y’all at come, make this money come make this money.
This broad right here is ranked number two in the United States and she’s only had eight fights y’all better, come on in y’all.
Make this money she’s about to make a couple thousand dollars right, even though low-key, a lot of these Club, fighting, broads and backyard, boxers and stuff they’ve been been making that bread over us, but now you can make more you can you can make more out of It come on come on y’all, um, so she’s, 33 years old, she’s abroad, fair Fairly, you know moderately aged abroad, she’s 33, so she’ll be peeking in about uh to three years.
Okay, so she got some.
This is her time.
It’S her time.
Um goodness.
I didn’t.
Look so I looked I’m looking at her box wreck and you got to even look BoxRec.
I like what boxer rack is doing.
You can have followers on BoxRec now, which is awesome and um.
They are actually showing the manager agent which they used to, but it used to be kind of shady and she’s managed by a gentleman named Trinidad, Garcia and Rick Ramos.
Now Rick Ramos um rings a bell because he his fighter as well is um, Jessica, mccaskill.
Okay, so they have the same manager agent in this deal, so I suppose that’s how she made it onto this huge card.
I I’m sure she wasn’t no Phenom that now she’s a contender that where she can face shadesia green – who is also you know this.
This Phenom, who has a really fought high-end opposition, and that’s what I’m talking? That’S what we’re talking about tonight.
That’S what I’m talking about tonight, okay, so Olivia garula, is the only.
There is the only notable fight on um, Miss Curry’s, Skid Row: okay, Olivia kershy’s.
She’S, aside from that she’s fought, you know she she’s fought uh, stepping like not even stepping stone Fighters, but she’s she’s fought [, Music, ], um and and not even four and forty Fighters, meaning four and 45 means you know a fighter that has you know uh 20: wins: 30.
30 losses.
You know there’s a lot of women out here like that, because women Fighters out here like like that, because most women Fighters don’t want to fight somebody who’s actually a fighter.
They want to fight career uh opponents.
Okay, the beautiful thing about now is the the valuable matches are starting to get notoriety and and benefits right if you’re not like the most recent one that I spoke about, um Alicia, Bumgarner versus Christina, Leonardo, okay, um, Christina lidodarto, has always been.
She fought Katie Taylor.
She fought all of these great Fighters, but she wasn’t celebrity status for some reason: no she’s she’s a bit up of celebrity because you know she was.
She was on a platform where people could actually see her and even though she lost the fight, she still has some kind of recognition because she put on a good fight.
She wasn’t a tomato can in there.
Okay strategy could have been way better, but she wasn’t no tomato can right.
It was a real fight, lovely assistant, next image, please, okay, so now we’re looking at.
Should Asia green? Okay, this the one right this, the one everybody’s talking about this – is She-Hulk, Miss green She-Hulk.
Okay, because all of a sudden uh she, the one that’s gon na – beat uh she’s the one that’s going to beat Savannah Marshall.
She, the one that’s going to beat uh Clarissa Shields, oh not to mention.
Oh, she will not friend, Sean Cruz is not even any competition.
Oh oh you know what I’m saying I did a bit of a.
I touched on her a little bit earlier when in her in her rise, when she was, was she something she was either sub 10 or or close to 10.
okay um, and not that I’m dissing homegirl? Okay, I’m not putting it’s not! This is not.
Boxing.
Is a sport where I can’t it, I can’t sugarcoat your [ __ ].
You know what I’m saying I can’t I’m not going.
I’M not gon na put powdered sugar on your your [ __ ] and try to serve it as dessert.
I’M not gon na.
Do that, okay, I got ta call you on on your [ __ ].
Okay, now should Asia green is ranked number three in the world as a super middleweight, okay, um, Miss Curry, who we were just talking about.
Olivia Curry was ranked number three three um goodness now I got ta look at this because they both this is box.
Rack too y’all Olivia.
Curry is ranked number three as a middleweight in the world right, but there are a lot of middleweight according to BoxRec.
There are a lot of middleweights, though you know, I don’t understand how Olivia Curry got to be up there number three, so you know somebody that made a call right.
I’M calling this [ __ ] seven and one and you rank number three in the world and we don’t even know who you are.
I can’t find no footage on you, you haven’t you, haven’t you, don’t have no receipt, you don’t have a receipt, but yet, but yet you got a ticket to the dance.
You got the ticket you’re the main event at the dance, and you ain’t got no receipt.
This is the [ __ ], I’m talking about right.
So as a middleweight she’s ranked number three in the world, um there’s a South African fighter, that’s ranked above her okay and um at number four.
We got Olivia garula, okay, and this, let me tell you something about Olivia gorilla.
Olivia gorilla has fought as low as I think, a hundred uh like 120 pounds, yeah and then she’s gone like she’s fighting as high now as middleweight right Junior uh, junior middleweight, middleweight Junior middleweight right Olivia garula.
I think I may highlight that one because I like I’ve, always liked her tenacity, um and she’s one you can she she’s been in this.
She she’s grown up in this right and and she’s she’s contributed to the growth of a lot of women fighters in women’s boxing, so yeah um, Olivia garula, don’t sleep on her um Marcella Cornejo is number five Destiny Robinson out of the UK.
Okay and then we have uh, we go down some South Africans, and you know these are this is I would call this a zombie weight class? Okay, it’s a zombie weight class because none of the contenders in the weight class have any type of um and none of the contenders in this weight class have any kind of standing or pull as far as the value of their performance right.
Anal kill is in this weight class; they all dead right, The Walking Dead right.
So this is the type of weight division that Olivia Curry is in that yes, she can be.
I guess she can be ranked for three in the world because everybody dead now the champion of the middleweight of this middleweight division is Clarissa Shields right, so Clarissa Shields might have made a smart move by going down to this weight, so she can hang out a Little bit right, ain’t no contenders coming for her in this division, so nobody’s going to be no mandatory for her.
She she could take a vacation down here right because ain’t, nobody coming for her right, but if she was uh in the junior middleweight uh.
Well, if she was in uh, not Junior middleweight, the middleweight um division, the super middleweight division – you know not junior middle.
You know um, she would have a lot of people knocking on her door right even from rematches like she she’d always.
She she’d have to be sharp right.
So now she’s chilling in the zombie weight division.
Oh, if she gets an opportunity she makes money regardless because she doesn’t have to you know she really doesn’t have to extend herself um.
So shadesha green is now 12-0 with 11 Kos, okay um.
So, let’s see who? Let’S see? Who, who went the distance with with shadesha, because those are the things that you want to? Those are the things that you look at when you’re stalking um prospects? Okay, so everybody done got tko’d, but a fighter named uh IRS, Hernandez uh took her to hold six rounds, so um shadesha shadasia can be managed right because one person did a one-person loss, but they didn’t get tko’d by her and each TKO.
Is it’s not kale? Right TKO is when the ref stops it right and the ref can stop it.
For any reason, a lot of tkos are arguably uh fights that should have had the opportunity to continue to the end a lot of tkos right, but I think refs just get bored in there and they’d be like you know what me and this [ __ ] And they stopped the fight, you know um, it is what it is.
Some of them get paid right because those tkos now they they they’re Kos on her list and it brings her value up right.
So the promoter may do a deal like that with the ref and the Matchmaker.
That’S how these things go: okay, um, so shadesha’s greens, Skid Row also looks as scanty as uh Olivia curries Contender, wise yeah.
I said it, she ain’t fought nobody right now.
They say you know it: it’s floating around that should Asia green came down from 190 190 pounds right, but we’re women out here so 190 pounds.
It went like she walking around D’s.
You know like the pit bull off of Tom and Jerry.
You know she was a fat lady and she lost some weight and she got her ass into some shade and now she’s campaigning down at Super middleweight.
Okay, so um that to me that that’s them selling, that – or you know people being concerned about that is – is also why we need to have these conversations about women’s boxing because men’s boxing ain’t the same, if you’re looking at her as you would a contender in Men’S boxing, you got it all wrong: okay, um she’s, moving she’s losing weight to be.
You know to be more dangerous.
Okay, so she’s moved down from uh 190.
, but what kind of 190 was she? You know what I’m saying, how many 190 women? Well, you know when you had women like Vonda Ward, who was like, I think she was like six foot six or something like that, and she could walk.
She could walk around at 190.
right and be muscle right, uh should Asia.
I think today is just maybe about 5 10.
um.
Are they putting Heights well on BoxRec they say that she’s five eight, but everybody knows that we lie especially women’s.
We lie on Fox, never ask a woman how much she weighs and never never ask a woman.
What’S in her purse, anyway, um, so her KO percentage on BoxRec is 91.
67 percent.
Okay um.
They call her the sweet Terminator, but I would have gone with um She-Hulk.
For you know, everybody knows she, The Incredible Hulks green.
You know and then she Hulk green.
You know it goes.
It goes right, um, sweet Terminator I’ll be back.
I mean I don’t, but you grow into your your nickname.
You grow into your stage, name, okay, so yeah.
I don’t know if y’all may agree with it or not um, where you know I’m my stage.
Names was too bad, missed too bad sugar right.
You.
Let me know if my fans and my people in boxing women’s boxing, I got it right with with this one.
Um: okay, but with uh sweet Terminator, I’m looking at her skid row and and uh she I mean followers on on box wreck.
You know she um ranked number three in the world as a super middleweight.
Okay.
So, let’s see what um box wreck has, let’s see what her spot is: okay, um, so Savannah Marshall has all the belts right.
So Savannah Marshall is, is the queen of that division, then still Fran Sean Cruz is ranked number two on BoxRec, even though she lost her all her belts to Savannah Marshall and then under franchon cruise is shadesha green.
We got Ellen ceteros who got beat up by pretty much all of those uh Savannah franchon and shadesha um Sonia dreling, okay, which you know I have to guess who I saw in a bare knuckle match the other day, none only then Sonia drelling.
You know I had to give her your give her some props.
You know not a lot of baddies so step outside of of you know, of their discipline anymore.
So seeing her in a bare knuckle match made me uh.
That made me a more of a fan of her, so I I appreciated that and she she looked pretty good in there.
She and she got robbed.
I think she got robbed.
It was over there in the UK.
She fought abroad.
That kind of reminds me of um uh, a welterweight fighter, name Cali Rays yeah.
She fought a girl abroad like that in there they even kind of resemble each other.
Look it up it’s out here in the ins in the Cyber verse, but it was Sonia drilling’s uh bare knuckle match was very entertaining um.
Then you know you got it Italian at no ranked number six uh sitali Ortiz, oh no she’s, not Italian she’s Mexican.
I’M sorry I’m sorry y’all, then we have South them.
South African girls are are doing it.
They you see them in in all the rankings.
I I appreciate that in African women that they doing it all they fighting over there.
Then we got Colombian and then we have another UK Broad and then an American broad at number 10.
right.
So I’m not saying the names or anything like that, because when I, when I look at the rankings or when I used to look at who’s representing where I had a pretty decent, I could get a pretty decent idea of the um of the quality of opposition.
From each place right – because I I I could I I understood – that train certain type of training didn’t exist or doesn’t exist in certain communities of women’s boxing right.
There’S some some communities where just you just find a strong girl and she can do a one to slow ass.
One two will get her.
You know she’ll plow through all the contenders and in her in in her neck of the woods right, because no one’s being taught and then you got a place like say, USA or the UK.
Now – or I would I mean, um South America – okay, where especially South America, Mexico right they’re, not playing right.
So, if you’re going to find a Mexican as opposed to you’re fighting someone say from South Africa right, you know that Mexican broad can fight.
She understands it.
She got tactics and strategies because that’s what they do over there, South Africa, this broad is going to be strong, she’s, probably going to be heavy-handed and she’s going to be in shape.
That’S just what you know right um, and so that’s how you determine, but what the opposition is looking like.
That’S how we break down the these rankings and all of that stuff um, but back to history, green, okay, so shadesa is ranked number three.
I wouldn’t call it a zombie weight class, but it’s a low-key, it’s almost theirs.
I it’s turning into some zombie [ __ ].
I don’t see enough.
You got ta at least, have five Baddies right, four or five baddies, semi baddies, some Gatekeepers in a division.
For you to raise an eyebrow to any broad in the top ten, yes, I said it.
This is how you got to look at it right, you’re, not looking at no big scary, [, __, ] or little scary, broad.
You know, I say: oh she’s scary.
No, you look at what kind who who is in the division? What does her receipt look like? Does she at least have three baddies on her receipt right, or is she on at least three baddies receipts? You know what I’m saying: that’s when you know that’s when you know right.
That’S the formula shadesha green, I I I’m trying like I I mean her receipt.
She she fought Ellen ceteros and I okay, she she’s a baddie because she had she was a champion, but she was a baddie in the division when it was a zombie division.
You know I’m saying so: she’s she was the queen of the zombies at one time.
Right so now pot’s starting to Bubble, they want they gon na snatch him up off of her right and now um give me them votes.
I want all of them right and then I just don’t get it it.
Doesn’T it never made sense to me? I just don’t understand why franchon Cruz could a chill Ed and made money while she had all them belts before she had to pay that money back.
Why did she call out Savannah Marshall? Why that was it just didn’t make sense? Business-Wise right I mean you’re a singer, you a diva you all of this stuff, but um you did this.
You signed up to do this to be a champion and you have been a champion, but when you have all the belts you want to Relish in it.
As long as you can and build a legacy, she only had one.
She only had one fight as she only had one title: defense, successful title defense, I think as an Undisputed champion and then after that she lost all her belts that didn’t make any sense.
Um hell of a fighter, you know, but it she didn’t where she should have been a superstar at she didn’t focus on that area.
If you guys know what I mean right, that’s where she should have been a star.
She probably should have picked on some of the smaller Gatekeepers in you know, middleweight in the middleweight Division and and help them make some money in her division right, fem K, you know, fight fight, some of them broads and and make a show out of it right And then, if she needs to step up, you know and and and possibly lose right, but you don’t call you you, don’t friggin uh, wake up.
Frankenstein right and Frankenstein don’t come out of the dam.
Don’T come from the top of the hill.
Don’T go up! There messing with Frankie, you know, don’t do that stay where your ass at right.
That’S where I was, but she has turned into a spokesperson – has some great opportunities outside of women’s boxing.
So you know she’s she’s still around back to this broad here.
Okay, so lovely assistant uh next picture.
Please please, please, please all right so this you know this.
Should Asia in action right this this one of the you know what I’m saying this one of the moves right here, that’s gon na! That’S one! That’S gon na help! Her, you know fend off the attack of the one.
You know she she’s gone now, those those of us who know boxing who know how to fight.
I put this picture up here for a reason because y’all see it, I’m not going to say nothing but y’all see it now if she think she could take some a position like that in front of a mofo like Savannah Marshall she’s in for a short night, Because everybody has agreed friend, Sean Clarissa, everybody who done fought Savannah.
Marshall has agreed that the [ __ ] Got Loaded.
She she got loaded hands, she got some.
She got the bomb okay.
Now she don’t know how to knock people out.
No one has taught her Savannah Marshall can knock people out it if she’s taught but she’s not being taught um but yeah.
This here is her in action, and this proves I mean this is one of my points to where she’s not on she.
She has not experienced opposition of the caliber that would get her ready to perform against the likes of Savannah Marshall, Clarissa Shields, Fran John Cruz.
You know what I’m saying you got ta.
You got ta work Under The Lights.
You got to work on that.
You got to P, we got to see how you do Under the light.
Sparring is one thing right.
Sparring is one thing: having opposition that you supposed to beat in front of you is one thing too, but fighting uh, another bad [, __ ] Under The Lights.
That’S a whole experience, you’re talking about being [, __ ], that’s a whole experience right.
That’S why we hug at the end right, because we real that that’s some real freaky [ __ ] right you get and you in the ring you fighting a [, __, ] and she’s, just as bad as you and she taken and giving just like you and You got ta, dig deep and extend yourself to win and some of the time most of the time when you dig deep and extend yourself, you still don’t win according to the judges, so you walk out of there still with your head up, because you know you Behaved badly and you performed right.
That’S how women Fighters think right.
That’S how our money is made not like the men’s now lovely assistant, uh next picture.
We won’t go out here.
I ain’t got no guests tonight, y’all, no guess so all right! So the I mean this the matchup right here and I you know I picked a picture with um.
What’S what’s this dude’s name, I I know I should know his name and it slips my mind right now: um Jake Paul right, his little goofy ass right.
So um he’s cute.
Sometimes you know but um he’s giving women’s boxing a platform.
You know he’s giving Amanda a platform and all of a sudden you know it seems like Amanda’s opening the gates for other women under the Jake Paul or on the Jake Paul platform.
So should Asia has been brought onto the Jake Paul platform, she he’s her promoter and he’s the one that’s calling and also um, encouraging this Savannah Marshall versus um shadesha green fight.
I think it’s too early it’s too early for this um.
One of my one of my favorite quotes nowadays is a quote that um, a fellow female fighter, has said um in our conversation here on on in cyberspace, honest, I think, on the sugar show um because yeah she was, she was one Brook Deedra said her [ __ ] ain’t ready, yet her [ __ ] ain’t ready.
Yet why you calling? Why are you calling all of these that yeah Savannah Marshall she’s? She a monster out here right just because Clarissa beat her.
Clarissa’S is the and is the elite fighter.
Just because Clarissa beater don’t mean she’s, not a monster, and it doesn’t mean that anyone solved the problem of the Savannah Marshall monster right.
Clarissa Clarissa did solve some of the problems, but Savannah also has so much room to grow that she can still be a real problem in women’s boxing um.
She reminds me a little bit just a little bit.
She ain’t got the dog in her she and as um this fighter right here, but Ann Sophie Matthews out of France.
She kind of reminds me of and Sophie Mathis because and Sophie Mathis at the time um was like this was when Welter the welterweight division was hot.
Um was frying it up like hot grease.
Okay, everybody was in that Division and down including sugar, okay and um.
Anthony Mathis was about five ten, probably five, eleven rangy ass welterweight I should do.
I should I’m going to bring her up on it on on my show one day, because she is also one of my favorite fighters in women’s boxing um rangy, but she could fight and Sophie Mathis could can fight, could fight okay, especially when she was in her Prime um and so Savannah Marshall kind of reminds me of her because and Sophie Mathis was was hurting women.
There was no denial, everybody even the grace Belinda la corente right.
Another great in women’s boxing, came back and said that [ __ ] hurt she’ll, hurt.
She’Ll hurt you right, so I suppose, because we don’t talk about, we don’t compare these new generation female fighters to the older generation.
Female Fighters like the men’s.
Do right, that’s how they keep their legacy alive.
We don’t do that in women’s boxing.
We should but um.
I I believe Savannah Marshall can be a throwback answer, theme Mathis um and she should study and Sophie Mathis if she wants to learn something about her attributes as a fighter, because – and so if we met this uh did well with her style and with what she Has which is what’s very similar to what um Savannah Marshall has anyway? Now we talk about shadeja, green now, shadesha green looks slick.
I ain’t gon na lie to you.
She looks slick.
She look.
She looks slicker than a Jerry curl in the summertime right, not a dry, Jerry curl.
If y’all know about this.
This is what this is only certain folk know about that Jerry curl right, I’m talking about when, when you put the activator – because I I know about this – just about all the little girls um in my neighborhood and at the school and everything had a Jerry curl And when you was on downtime instead of the bonnets now that you see a lot of um young girls wear, it was the plastic cap, they keep your Jerry, curl moisturized, keep it juicy right, and so in the summertime we out there double dutching or do whatever We playing and that activator or whatever would just slide down ever so subtly on my on everybody on on the girls faces that had the Jerry, curl, okay and looking greasy as a mother greasy, it’s all about like looking like you, you had that cooking oil sliding Down your face just greasy, but those were the good old days right.
I miss a good Jerry curl.
You don’t really see those.
Often you should bring them back anyway, um slick boy, I’m telling you all that she do, but against the type of opposition she’s been fighting.
I’M not impressed do that.
[ __ ] against friend Sean do that [ __ ] against Fighters like um uh, who else because this is is some zombie in going on dude, I [ __ ] against.
Let’S do it uh, Christina hammer, you know what I’m saying.
Let’S talk about, let’s bring! Let’S bring Christina Hammer ass out, let me see you do that [ __ ] against I mean she gon na have to stop using that cream on her dog, but Hannah Gabrielle’s.
Let me see you slick your way, performing with Fighters like those before you step up to the monster right and now it’s a mandatory.
Now, it’s mandatory that they fight.
Are you kidding me? Should Asia girl this ain’t, this ain’t, the move these women out here these women in women’s boxing are allowing um people to make quick bread off they ass right.
You want to make as much bread as you can for a long amount of time.
If you want to fight if you fight in King Kong, if you start out the gate, fighting King Kong, Then Who you gon na fight next, Who you gon na fight next who’s, going to want to see you fight anybody after that, unless you gon na stop Uh Savannah Marshall, which I don’t I don’t see it depend based on your performance with these sub-level opposition should Asia that that she’s been fighting.
I don’t see where she’s going to do anything like that she’s.
I don’t see where she’s going to be a problem for us Savannah Marshall right because, yes, they do um shadesha green was an amateur National Champion, but in a zombie division she was a heavyweight right and that heavyweight division ain’t been popping since the 90s right they’re Saying it was some um, it was some good big girls that was around Keisha snow, Tiffany Logan.
You know, I mean like a shadesia green versus Akisha.
Snow Keisha will walk through her ass Keisha snow right.
These are the these are the conversations.
These are the names even even Tiffany Logan.
You know what I’m saying: these are the names that need to be coming up now in these conversations with these broads right, because if they set the measure, even a correlate, Ewell right Carlette still – and she still is she a dragon with the gray, hair and [ __ ] and she’s still fighting as a heavyweight or is trying to.
She don’t play right um.
So you know these bigger bras.
So should I have no, she come down to Super middleweight.
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Just stop by to say hello! Sugar stay great, hey the boxing wizard 63.
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Thank you for stopping by and saying hey and thinking about your sugar on a Wednesday night, um be good to yourself for the rest of your night.
You deserve it: okay, okay, um! So this is what I’m talking about.
You know the the this, the one you know the one that’s gon na the one you know uh the one ring to rule them up, please you know and I’m not it’s it’s not a diss or anything like that.
But what I’ve? What I do know in women’s boxing is, if you, if you make the look like something without standing in front of something real, everybody will jump on your coattail in women’s boxing.
All you got ta do is like is, is just act like you, you was like you, a tough scary, [, __ ].
All you got ta do is act like you’re, scary and people believe you in women’s boxing right, but it don’t be it it it.
It’S not the scary ones like in men’s boxing, it’d be the ones that look like this.
That you need to be afraid of, because you got to ask yourself the question: why is she here she do she.
She too, damn attracted and not a blemish on the [ __ ] face.
Why is she here? That’S scary right and some of us used to get set as some of us Pro.
You know the more you know: unscary types used to get set up, but the for the most part, the ones that stuck in it after the setup became very, very scary right.
So that’s you know that these are the points that I’m making lovely assistant bring.
My pit bring the next picture back, though bring the next picture back.
Please um.
Look like we’re.
Gon na wrap it up a little bit early tonight.
I ain’t gon na go for too too much longer wait an hour in come on Lovely assistant, where mother picture at so that you know that’s what I’m saying and I just feel like um for the sake of should Asia green right because that’s you know she’s.
She then struck, you know, popularity, she didn’t Struck it.
She didn’t people know her now right for the sake of her.
She did not get a chance to develop much.
She hasn’t learned a lesson that Savannah Marshall learned when she fought Clarissa Shields.
Should Asia hasn’t learned that lesson yet, but Savannah Marshall has learned that lesson he and – and this is this – is the thing you know these are the next picture lovely assistant this.
This is the point that I’m making french on Cruz has learned that lesson.
You know what I’m saying a lot of broads now, at the height of that division, have learned that lesson.
So what um lovely assistant I’m seeing the the one same picture yeah? What y’all do you yo the next one, the next one after that here we go? This matchup right here franchon the diva uh Cruise versus shadesha uh.
What is it sweet Terminator? I I like that.
I like I, would have called her the Hulk man I mean she, she scary and stuff right.
I think she’s more so of that.
You know than this sweet Terminator, she’s, so sweet but she’s a Terminator.
You know what I’m saying: girl marketing talk to your marketing people anyway, um.
You know French on.
I always say you know French on she’s, not the she’s, not the prettiest fighter, but she’s hard to fight right.
So I really believe that shadesha should have given herself some credit and find French on cruise before she before she takes on um Savannah Marshall.
You know um because if you believe, if you believe that you’re the sweet Terminator and after what Savannah Marshall just did to Fran Sean, I would have, I would have upped my value by making an an example of franchon Cruz.
You know what I’m saying I would have made an example I would have done.
I would have hit it hard and I would have attempted to stop Fran Sean Cruz since she, just since um Savannah Marshall, pretty much beat franchon from from post to post.
In that ring.
You know I’m saying had her stumbling and right, I would have tried to top Savannah Marshall’s ass whooping of franchon Cruz right to build my value, and then it would have built up the money value of me facing off um, Savannah Marshall right because at we we Have to sell ourselves in women’s Boston where we had to especially like I’m looking at it now a lot of these bras.
They they have people helping him.
Actually caring right us, women, us old school, call me old school.
We had to think of our own [ __ ].
We had to think of our own stuff that lovely assistant before you take my picture off, just switch it to the next picture.
Please um.
We had to think of Our Own selling points and find out what the what the crowd loves about.
What we do.
We had to do that and be consistent in what we do win or lose.
We had to do that right.
So you know the the credit here I I, the conversations alone gives us credit right, respect and love on your old school women Fighters now they’re supposed to because you y’all know.
I always I always look at the poster and see how they selling it.
Okay, now they sell in the the um, the the male Fighters you know, and the women Fighters and the softest mofo on the poster is the one to the far right.
The one right here with the cornrows come on he’s smooth, even his face with the um.
With the beard smooth like mines, everybody else looking like they, they jacked right and I ain’t going like I’m not going it and women’s Boxing Channel I was in.
I was in the twitterverse the other day and um.
I I saw where um I saw where one of my supporters, one of my um, wonderful guests that always shows up.
I, he uh WBC women’s Boston, Channel and come in tonight, maybe uh they went to bed.
Maybe they was tired because it’s always like in the wee hours of the morning over there, where WB women boxing channel is at, but I was on the twitterverse and women’s Boxing Channel brought up um, something that I said on.
My previous show, where I said uh Alicia Bumgarner, is on them drugs.
Yes, I did say it now.
I didn’t say she was on no illegal or she she might have been on legal or illegal drugs, but she looks significantly different than she did before she hit.
The big leaves.
Okay, and I know I know I know I know I know what it looks like.
What it looked like when you pop in them extra strong, Flintstone vitamins, I know what it looked like, because I’ve seen it I’ve seen Fighters, do it, I’ve seen them, do it and I see what it does to them, and so, if, by coincidence, I see the Same things in other Fighters, imma speak on it right because it’s not fair, it’s not fair right, you’re, not supposed you’re, not supposed to be.
You know, taking these extra strong, Flintstone vitamins rubbing these creams.
That makes you that gives you an edge you’re supposed to work.
That you’re supposed to work your body work it hard earn it right.
Just like the rest of us.
Do that do it natural right, so I you know.
I just I just found that in this poster it’s just some just three hard face mother in this picture and the one that you know that’s looking soft and smooth.
Is it’s homeboy right here now um, I don’t know who this would I mean they’re selling it they’re.
So this is the imagery that they’re selling so um they’re selling this tough, tough type of hardness that um.
They want to portray that.
I guess the stable of women in uh Jake Paul’s group – is they hard? They tough, you know, but hardness in women flow different.
The swag’s different, a hard woman.
Her swag is different: a hard woman ain’t about the muscle, a hard woman ain’t about to wear in her face right.
You could tell she having a hard time.
A hard time is different from being a hardcore woman right.
So I always like some of them hit that button right, but for the most part, these male these promoters, these men promoters, I they’re taking away the appeal and the longevity in what women boxing is and I’m an advocate of women boxing.
Now I’m not saying I I’m not saying I ain’t no fan of a tough looking stud okay, but what I’m saying is, if you gon na Market, that there is a part of that stud, that’s still a woman right and what we sell in is women Behaving Badly, that’s what we’re selling right! I do a hard.
You know a a pretty woman with a hard ass face.
I’M not sure I mean there may be some appeal to it right, but everything else can’t be hard right.
Um, because a hard woman don’t look hard, is her swag, that’s hard right! Um and you see a lot.
There’S a there’s.
There’S a lot of women boxers out here that that got that hard swag that I like right.
Some of them have that glamor, but that hard swag with the Glam right and some of them got that much cheese, mold female hard, swag right, but it works.
I used to have a um a fellow fighter.
She wasn’t even on my team.
She was a stable.
She wasn’t a stablemate, but we trained together and we were really good friends.
Her name is Cynthia Lozano.
She was a middleweight fighter back in the early 90s much older than me.
A lot of these a lot of those Fighters were women grown women.
Compared to me.
I was one of the youngest youngest of that generation um, but she had it.
She had it.
She was she.
She had that stud vibe that image that she she was the first one she uh um sticks.
Uh is Puerto Rican and Italian, like she has this, the swag of that I’m not talking about this ain’t racial.
It’S, the swag of the culture right, there’s also another fighter named punchinella Mary, I’m punchinella right and she became middleweight champion too, but she had.
She had a hard swag tour.
She used to bring her son to the gym uh every day, the cute little badass little boy right, but I you know um, but they you know they had this swag that, regardless of what they portrayed, you know you knew that they were no-nonsense.
Women about the shits and with the Shins, because they showed up and and they made you want to see what they had come in next right.
It’S not doing that! It’S not giving that for me in a lot of these in in a lot of these marketing attempts for women’s boxing.
So I you know, I just want more of that right, because when you Market women fighters women boxers you get more opportunities to make that bread right, I mean call me Betty Crocker, but I want to bake.
I want to make.
I want to make the bread.
I want to buy the bread from the show call me.
I want a bake patty cake that Baker’s ma’am.
I want to make the bread right, so I want platforms now sell every bit of it right, open the platforms and give the opportunities make that bring pour the opportunities in to make that bread, okay, anyway, next image, because I’m rap wrap it up, wrap it up.
There she is, should Asia green? I call I want to call it She-Hulk, but she’s the sweet Terminator there.
She is um and I guess she looks scary right.
But somebody like a fighter like me that [ __ ] is like you know that [ __ ], don’t scare.
I ain’t never been.
You know who I’ve been afraid of, I’m afraid of that elderly lady with them rollers in her hair and some of them put that cigarette right there on the edge and they talking to you and the cigarettes like this or like my grandma, got to set it.
The roller set us and the Bonnet and the house coat and your ass better, not your ass, better, be home before the street lights come on, because if them street lights come on and your ass ain’t in the house, then [ __, ] get real scary.
So [ __ ] like this: no, no because ain’t! Nobody like this ever do nothing to me and won’t.
Never do nothing to me.
You know what I’m saying, but this is her marketing Point shadesha green.
She looks fantastically in shape very strong, thick and durable, and I mean I’m gon na say this: this fight coming up between her and Olivia Curry on the fifth one, two, three, four five fifth of August um.
I say that there’s a bit of interest and not because not because it’s a even I don’t think it’s an even Keel, matchup um Olivia Curry is moving up from middleweight right.
They could have found another Super middleweight for this broad to fight.
This is what they doing out here right anyway.
Um you know, calls were made Ramos in them.
You know somebody rubbing off and doing favors for somebody else.
So there you got it uh, Olivia, Curry, you got it.
You got a big fight when everybody gon na go and see you and everybody gon na see what happened, what happens between you and shadasia green, and I hope I just hope, um.
You do well enough for yourself to be proud about it.
Okay, um the this matchup for me, is just uh me getting an assessment of what I see.
That’S consistent in this fighter here, shadesha green.
What does she consistently do that may pose a problem to the elite fighters in that weight? Division.
Okay got to see some because um after this fight and she’s supposed to be stepping up to Savannah Marshall, but I mean yo, I should I mean their steps.
It’S called stepping up, so you could have fought a a caliber opponent that wasn’t the the tip top right.
They have their reasons for what they do and I think you know what they’re trying to do is make this road to uh Clarissa Shields somehow.
But there is a chilling um as she should because she worked very hard anyway.
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