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Another Black Eye in Womens Boxing | The Sugar Show with Natalie Brown
As always, Natalie brings the heat and discusses her thoughts on the other black eye in women’s boxing.
The SUGAR Show is a series focused on Women’s Boxing. Natalie SUGAR Brown visits all aspects of Women’s Championship Boxing involving both up-and-coming and seasoned amateur and professional female boxers, along with studio segments covering headlines and developments across the sport. The program primarily broadcasts on Wednesday nights at 7:30 pm eastern time, weekly.
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Transcribed:
But alejandra was rushed to the emergency room immediately after the fight and was put into an induced coma and um.
There i mean you know they did great things leading up to this fight right.
Alejandra said it herself that she had time to prepare for the fight and she felt good going in uh, which, which is speaks a lot about the intention of the the the whole thing and everything being put together.
So i’m not throwing darts, i’m not throwing daggers at anybody, but i am talking about now how this situation is being handled.
Moving forward um with regards to the fallen or or the the um, the the gladiator now or the gladiator is now whose life is in uh suspension.
We don’t know what’s happening with her now uh last word, where she had two surgeries.
She had.
I guess some uh bleeding on her brain and there there were some surgeries and now she’s still in the coma, but her condition is now not as dire as it was initially when she was not.
She had that pressure in her in her head on her brain from the brain bleeding, which is what happens? That’S that’s what happens? That’S what you ultimately thinking! You ultimately think about or know that you sign up for when you get that contract and you sign on the dotted line or you sign on that contract to say i’ll, be there i’m good for this weight right.
Those are the risks that a fighter takes.
That’S the risk that women’s boxers or female fighters take the only thing about this.
Now is if this was a um.
If this was a card, a a big card in men’s boxing ayela would have more.
Um would have more interest in how there would be more interest in how she’s pulling through from her condition right now, um.
I have been looking for updates of what alejandra ayala’s condition is right now and um on a very well-known women’s boxing site.
There was a um post shared that aiella is doing well now and she’s doing great and uh the hannah rankings promoter it.
The source was cited from hannah ranking’s promoter and hannah ranking herself, which is a big red flag for me, because how is it that hannah’s promoter hannah rankin’s promoter and hannah rankin? How is it that they’re, the ones giving updates about alejandra ayala’s condition when alejandra has her own management, her own representation? That speaks on her behalf? That’S a huge red flag that gives tells me in in in my mind of discernment that um, you know all is not what it seems in that situation, and the thing about it is the black eye about that is.
If alejandra should um have a tragic end to her story, okay, um it’ll be really bad, really really bad on the efforts of uh hannah rankin’s promoter and on that historical um event, because it was just like the madison square garden event that was in the usa.
Uh with katie taylor and amanda serrano, this event was something of that same caliber over there in scotland um.
The event happened in glasgow scotland, so it was the first uh female uh, first female uh main event in such a huge arena, and i i don’t have the information on what the exact arena was.
I could probably google it right now, but that’s kind of not important to me.
Um, that’s not the topic that i’m talking about, but it it is huge.
You guys can look it up.
So this is a historical thing.
This will be in the books.
So if hannah rankin killed her opponent in this match, that’s what’s going to be what’s gon na be put down in history regarding what you know such a great intent such a great event agree, you know it.
I i they had the best intentions behind this event, because but you never win, you never win when you don’t play fair, and i don’t think that i don’t think there was fair play um with all of this that’s going on, because ayella was not a contender That should have been called for such an uh, magnificent event, she’s a great contender.
She has fought some some good um ayala has fought some great opposition um good nation.
I think she fought savannah marshall, so she’s fought these name girls and uh.
Looking at her interviews online she’s very she’s, a very well spoken fighter, she knows what she’s talking about.
She knows the game, but her performance has not been at the caliber that puts her in strong contention right so um.
I don’t think i don’t think it was fair for her to have gotten this chance um and she took it because she’s a fighter and her management of course took took it because it’s business right and anything i guess to get your fighter higher or further in The rankings that’s what the management will set you up to do, but somebody has to care somebody has to care.
Otherwise it gets really scary.
You have to care as a fighter and i’m gon na i’m gon na say it right, i’m gon na say it and i’m gon na probably get bleeped or use the bleep button, but [ __ ] it all.
If i can’t or if i’m not going to leave that ring with my life, it’s not worth it [ __ ], it ain’t, no belt ain’t, no championship, ain’t, no glory! That’S worth my life and you have to come to terms with some of those things.
As a fighter a lot of the time we are the orchestrator of our own demise, so somebody has to care when i went down and fought mccaskill, which seems to be a grand theme, but mccaskill is the champ right now right.
I went down and sacrificed a part of myself.
I was going through a lot in my life at the time too.
A lot but y’all get that in in the book in the sugars memoirs book, which will be yeah they’ll have some really juicy stuff right.
Um there’s been some exciting great times and some horrible lows right so um.
I will share that, but you know all in all all through my career, all through my life, i was blessed to have at least one body that cared one body that questioned sugar.
You sure too bad think about it.
Miss too bad.
Is that worth it which made me had to um, which made me have to take that time and think about what this whole thing is worth, and i did take some risks and in um give me a minute: y’all, [, Music, ], sorry about that.
Y’All got a taste of life, it’s always something going on in the background with sugar um sugar got a full life going on okay, so that was that um but um, like i said getting back to my point, what i was saying is, you know you have To pray whatever you believe in you have to ask that higher power for discernment when you sign up for this business or when you’re a part of this business, because when you’re down and you’re all used up, you’re kicked to the side.
And it’s on to the next pretty face and it’s on to the next tough broad yup.
Nobody remembers your name anymore, and if you leave this industry – and you can’t even speak your own name, you lose you lose because you can’t even tell the story was speaking with someone the other day who had a great boxing career from what i saw and has A great um career now, as i see, and this person wanted more glory out of it, and i looked at it to where at least you can speak your own name.
At least you can remember who you are.
At least you don’t need someone to wipe your ass, which is the fate of many fighters who sign up for this game.
You just don’t see it, and now it’s becoming rampant in women’s boxing made this statement before on another platform.
It’S a culture now in women’s boxing, find a woman fly her in knock her out and send her back home to pick up the pieces not find someone with a fighting chance now we’re looking for zombies, walking dead right, because what happens is if you don’t die.
You are in a perpetual coma now for the rest of your life, where someone has to feed you, someone has to make sure you’re cleaned like a baby, and you don’t have your faculties to live the rest of your life.
Fully you’re dead.
Just recently happened in montreal, canada, jeannette zacharias dead.
They flew her in matchmaker these matchmakers.
Now they do their job.
I guess, weeks months days to pick a contender, that’ll get knocked out and potentially die.
Are you doing your job? Are you finding the best contender out there? Are you giving the best contender a chance? Do you have respect for women’s boxing? Do you have respect enough for the game to know that only the best, only the best will build and make money only the best right? Only the best matchups, not the best lady, only the best matchups, will bring money and put money in everybody’s pocket.
None of these broads are all that none of them not even clarissa they’re, not all that not enough to kill somebody not enough for somebody’s life.
No ain’t, no girl, ain’t; no broad ain’t, no crone! All that and that’s what’s happening, they’re finding people who, yes in their heart and soul.
They want to fight, but the numbers and the history and the resume says different.
And i use this term discernment because it’s so important discernment, everyone must use it in this industry.
These matchmakers don’t respect the fact that women will die these promoters.
Don’T respect the fact that if you are the catalyst for someone’s death, the karma from that will follow.
You these are people, these are women, they have families, they have friends, they have people who love and care about them.
You don’t treat people like that.
That’S the black eye of women’s boxing and it’s become a culture.
None of these women that are being flown in has a fighting chance and you don’t have a fighting chance anymore, either unless you’ve become some kind of name.
Otherwise, a commissioner is going to be a part of um your slaughter.
The promoter is going to be a part of your slaughter, and sometimes your own manager is a part of your slaughter there’s not as much protection for women in boxing as there are men in boxing, because when a woman gets hurt, it can be swept under the Rug, the commission, the promoter, the sanctioning body they can just skip on to the next one to the next pretty face and the fans.
Now you guys me and the women’s boxing platform forget the name [ Music ].
Well, whatever happened to her, she got stopped and she’s fighting again, no one’s saying anything about that they’re just saying oh such and such fighting her now, oh and she knocked her out.
Okay, they’re, not seeing the continued theme.
This one fighter is getting knocked out by all these names.
These this one fighter is getting beat up by all these names when there are several other great contenders out there that will gladly put on a fight, no one’s saying anything.
No one cares to know enough about this industry and what we do to question.
I actually questioned um on on a very popular women’s boxing platform.
I questioned the post of uh alejandra ayala is doing great now, good news.
I looked up the source that the post was from and it was basically a post that i could have put together on another platform, and i made the statement.
This is an unreliable source which it is an unreliable source until we hear from a fighter’s representation.
None of the information is reliable or authentic.
There are legalities in this now no one speaks for that fighter.
That’S why you sign a contract with your manager, you’re signing your life to say.
If i can’t speak for myself, i interest you to do that.
That’S what that 33 and a third is about 33 and a third is what we pay.
That’S this industry standard on any contractual um agreement between management and fighter.
Now, if you are good at negotiating – and you know what you’re talking about – and you know what you need out of management – you can always negotiate a real number, but that 33 and a third they lean on that they lean on that [ __ ], like it’s, The gospel well that 33 and a third means that you’re gon na look out for my best interest, you’re gon na protect me when i can’t even decide for myself a lot of the time, especially in women’s boxing that is not fulfilled.
There’S blackmail, there’s abuse! Oh there’s a whole bunch of lying and cheating and setting up going on just so.
The next person can make a book because they know nobody cares and that’s how they feel.
Nobody cares about women’s boxing enough, but what i’ve said is the right.
Broad hasn’t died.
Yet, when the right broad dies and becomes a martyr, it’s gon na you’re right, it’s gon na be more than r.
i.
p, and i’m gon na put her name on my trunks, like some lame.
Did some lame ass fighter put uh jeanette, zakarius, pitcher and name on her trunks just to try to get attention and has not spoke of this fighter’s name since has not said anything with regards to oh, i support this fallen.
Gladiator gladiator at get gladiatrist we’ll put the broads face.
Put this fall in glad put this fallen, fighter’s name and face on her stuff for attention.
This is what happens.
This is a black light.
This is why nobody will take women’s boxing seriously.
This is the serious [ __ ] that happens.
I got scolded on this very popular women’s boxing platform to say um.
They said.
Oh, i’m reporting good news and you had something to say about it.
Yes, sir, what’s good, what’s good about gossip, i still haven’t heard from alejandra’s manager about how she’s doing you posted something from a third party without citing exactly where the information comes from, and you call it good news.
That’S good news see because i’m somebody’s mama and i feel it i i literally feel i i feel it when people get hurt.
Even when i was a fighter and i used to knock them out, i go over and i see you know how how things are going, how they doing i did whatever i could.
I would never speak on behalf of that person, but i did my due diligence in helping that gladiatorist get herself back together, so she could put herself back together and try to be okay for her life and her family.
After that fight i’m a mom.
I would hate for somebody like that to do that to my child, my child child’s sitting somewhere in a coma, and you out here talking about she’s, okay, you crazy, so, yes, sugar, rambles, look at my video.
I ramble, but no i spit that truth.
I’M the splash of cold water, always right, i like to cheer for good things, but i know how important an objective i is in this industry and i make it a point: hey this, i’m only loyal to the truth.
I don’t need to make no friends, i don’t need to friend befriend a sanctioning body.
I don’t need to befriend no management, no matchmaker, not no more.
I’M out the game when i was in the game i observed.
Sugar’S record is scanty as a professional, because i prided myself on finding the best opposition that i could.
My opposition always had a fighting chance.
That’S why my record was like that.
I could have been sugar 10 and 0 12 and all, however, fights that i ended.
My pro career with, i can’t even tell i fought people with a fighting chance.
I extended myself, you don’t come from amateurs being the best in the world to pros and not make anything or not get anything unless shenanigans.
So i fought shenanigans and those shenanigans because i stood by my morals, my ethnic, my moral fiber, my ethics, who i am who i’ve been raised to be.
I didn’t get none of their bills.
I wasn’t willing to sell that part of myself and now i’m blessed to be able to sit on a platform where i can speak my truth: the truth about this industry, women’s boxing.
It can be really good when the highs when you’re on the highs.
Oh, it’s beautiful it’s more than beautiful.
It’S goodness is romantic.
It’S sexy, it’s lovely! The lows are so low and dark and scary at times, and if you make it through, you win it ain’t about your record.
If you make it through this industry – and you are who you are you win ain’t? Nobody got no story on sugar.
I win, i’m gon na end a nice ramble tonight’s show.
I wish somebody would have chimed on to have a a good, a good, real chat with me about this black eye, this recent black eye in women’s boxing.
But there is always a next time, there’s always another wednesday night at 7 30 and if you want to bring this up, if you want to ask me anything about what i know, what this thing is ah gladly share.
There are no secrets with me.
If i don’t know i’ll certainly find out too right um this industry, is you got to wear your big britches, your big boy, bridges, your big girl panties, to get through to survive, to be who you are to win it ain’t about selling yourself, cheap short for A belt for a buck, which is what many of them do, but you ultimately see it in the end sugar signing off tonight, see you guys next wednesday like subscribe, share and uh.
Let’S talk about women’s boxing, let’s talk about uh, the good, the bad, the ugly right.
Let’S talk about that i’ll see you all next wednesday, sugar out bye-bye
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