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[, Music ], damn yeah, [, Music, ], hello, talking fight fans, thanks for tuning in to Friday nights panel, hosted by Yours Truly Mike Orr, and it’s only me tonight guys uh, not too sure where everybody else is, but it is Thanksgiving weekend over here in Canada.
So I’m sure people are sitting back and eating their turkey and that’s the reason why they’re not here folks but we’re gon na run it anyway.
So it’s just me: we’re gon na talk about the boats this weekend and uh, some things that have happened in the boxing world that have just developed as of about an hour ago in the Conor Ben fight, which has been postponed and now canceled, but guys tonight.
If you want to watch some boxing, there is some stuff to watch tonight.
Probox TV uh.
com tonight, 9 p.
m.
Former world champion can Zoo will battle Brandon benavidez in a 10 round, featherweight China versus Mexico uh tonight, and this one’s great man, it’s uh in the co-feature boat, Caesar Francisco Clash where, with Francisco armenta for the world boxing organization, Junior Welterweight Title and for all you Guys out there it is only 199 per month for a pro box TV subscription, as is customary on ProBox TV, the big four compromising of Roy Jones Jr, Juan Manuel Marquez, Polly, maglin um.
I can’t even say it right now: I’m tongue, tied in Antonio Tarver will be calling the fights from ringside guys Michael Goldberg, handles Blow by blow and Claudia Trejo’s will be ringside reporter for the post fight interview and what’s going to go on for this fight tonight, Guys um here it is uh 10 Rounds.
Wbo enable Junior Welter title between canzu and former WB a featherweight champion, and we got Brandon benavidez come on guys, it’s going to be a good one, even though you got to pay for it.
It’S only a buck.
99.
You know get your hand in your pocket Fork.
It out just support it.
Honestly, there’s gon na be some great fights on it.
I did profile a kid to watch on here: man Darrell, Val Saint out of Orlando Florida 5-0, with 4kos he’s taking out Palm Mendez, who is 21-3-2 with 11 Kos.
It’S going to be a great card guys if you have the way to watch it.
It is some fighting to watch tonight because, unfortunately, we got ta talk about it, Carl, what’s up what’s happening about what happened all right all right good evening good evening, I thought I’d jump on seniors, all alone mate.
You know thanks for coming and joining me man.
That’S awesome.
That’S awesome, no problem, no problem.
So Mike you talk.
Do you tell me what topic you want to cover fella and we’ll cover it? I was just about to talk about the whole uh, Connor, Ben and and uh.
You know the whole situation.
That’S going on there uh.
Originally, you know what the Zone said that they were postponing the fight on Thursday uh.
It’S now been canceled uh, the British boxing control, what they the commission pulled out of it said they weren’t going to sanction in the event uh.
Now the promoters are, you know they were willing to throw the event uh without the sanction and call it an exhibition, but now that’s not even happening and um, and now uh Connor Ben’s going to be investigated um under the uh.
Under all this, it’s uh.
It’S not looking good for him man.
To be honest, I mean I’m happy to give you my version of events.
Um yeah.
Please do please do so.
I I believe the fight should have taken place for the good of boxing right.
I agree with Connor better having the opportunity to clear his name um.
I don’t believe it’s a dirty Fighter for one minute, no um, so up in this fight will take place in February.
I think there’ll be in an in question to what’s happened and it should open.
It’S all cleared up right because, let’s be right Mike, if he doesn’t clear his name, this is gon na linger.
Yeah yeah he’s facing a four-year ban if uh.
If, if this, all, you know turns to the wrong way, you know, I think Eubank was a credit in the way he he um conducted himself throughout the old.
The old episode yeah in terms of my understanding is, it was never going to be put forward.
An exhibition, Eddie and clearly came out and said he wasn’t even prepared to have a different boxing Board of control as in Luxembourg or it that was never on the table to take place.
The British boxing border control wasn’t going to sanction it.
The fight was not taking place, people that I’d like to spare fought for are the undercard Fighters.
You know a lot of money gets put into these camps yeah, you know and they’re, not always.
Obviously the best paid part is the further down the card.
You go as you know, yeah.
So obviously, a lot of Money’s been lost on this event.
Big time, so I mean what what’s the what’s the verdict State well over the bond? What what are the thoughts of Canadian and the American boxing fans? Well, we’re we’re kind of upset about the whole thing: man, it’s uh, it sucks when things like this happen, you know this is this is a rivalry that dates back to the 90s.
You know with both their fathers yeah.
You know this is setting up to be to be uh.
You know a new rivalry in the making uh, definitely great for boxing and then to have this.
You know this little hiccup just jump in front of it, and this kind of thing happened.
It’S it’s kind of you know, It’s upsetting, you know we were expecting some great boxing this weekend and uh, you know, and now and now we get deprived of it because of situations like this.
You know whether he took it.
You know without knowing or whether he took it by knowing it’s still a crappy situation.
Uh, you know it really does hurt.
It really hurts the sport.
You know what I mean yeah yeah, and that’s why I made the point.
I’M glad the thought hasn’t taken place for the Integrity of this fall.
Definitely because, where would that have left, the British boxing board in control of the fight would have gone ahead without them sanction it in the UK right right? It’S just it’s a dangerous, dangerous president to set, isn’t it by going ahead with a different boxing Board of control.
So I’m glad it’s you know.
Let’S let go to bed, have the opportunity to clear his name.
Definitely definitely well.
We all know you know he’s going to his father.
You know his father came to his 80s he’s.
Definitely, you know vouching that his son is not a dirty, a dirty Fighter by any means um.
You know there has been situations in the past where you know where uh trainers have taken upon themselves to you know slip Fighters, some stuff uh, you know, and sometimes they end up taking supplements that have stuff in it.
Not knowing there’s there’s all sorts of things that can happen just hopefully that he doesn’t get found um, you know guilty of of taking it voluntarily, because you know that’s going to put a four-year ban on him and you know what what would a four-year band do To him at this time of his career, you know it’s uh, that would be detrimental yeah and it would have stuck with him throughout his career as well, when it wouldn’t have just been four years.
Yeah um, obviously coming up the kind of venue and topic for a moment, obviously, we’ve not sprayed for a while.
What about Joe Parker versus Joe Joyce? I liked it.
I liked it.
It was uh, you know, he’s a juggernaut.
Man he’s uh he’s Relentless.
He comes forward, he’s he’s tough, but he takes a lot of damage man.
He does take a lot of damage, he’s slow.
He he’s quick at times, but there’s times where he’s just he’s too sluggish, but he does have that power in those hands.
Man and he’s facing time too right, like he’s, he’s fighting age.
I bet, I think I think you need to be avoided by it, because he just he’s Relentless, isn’t that yeah the engine has got you know and – and let’s be honest, Joe Parker landed some very good shots.
Oh my God, he he landed shots.
That would have.
Would have literally crippled some of the other guys in the division and also nobody does that to Jay Parker could do that.
Nobody knocks Joe parkrack.
No, no, but nobody does that, and that was that was huge.
That was uh.
That was a big win and he really showed he is the Juggernaut man.
He just pushes forward – and you know guys guys – that size just can’t keep up the pace that that you know he brings and he maybe some of these North American potential Legends in Greyhound Keys.
Talking about maybe come over and take on Joyce again.
I still don’t know who these are honestly, I I’ve yet to see.
I have yet to see a tank um honestly in somebody like, like Joe Joy spent like I’ve, yet to see it in somebody else.
He’S he’s got that that gas tank that just doesn’t quit man uh the only person that I could see that might be might be along the lines of that is uh is Richard Torres man coming up he’s he’s, got a pretty good gas tank on him too, But we have yet to see him go the distance in a fight to prove that he has the guy saying you can have the gas tank.
All you want inspiring yeah.
Think all you want skipping.
You can have all the guys think you want punching bags, but when you’re getting hit as hitting that’s a different, that’s a whole different story.
So we’ve yet to see some of these guys in North America that are coming up that have potential to be Superstars.
They’Re not going the distance right, so we got ta we got ta see we got ta start testing these guys more putting them in front of competition.
That’S going to bring in the distance to find out if they have the ability to go those later rounds, because I’ll tell you right now was this fresh? He looked as fresh as he was at the end of that, as he was at the beginning of that fight, and that is scary for a man that walks around at that weight and is that size there’s quite a bit of momentum in the UK.
That’S once in the Wilder versus Joy spot.
What do you think about it? Yeah I’ve been that’s a great fight, because it’s always if wild and Woodland during that fight because, like you said, Joyce, tends to ship a few shots yeah.
I would Joyce react because I’ve not seen him particularly hurt by any shot as of yet but wild is a different Beast.
Isn’T it yeah yeah a completely different Beast, you know he’s got that he’s, got that right hand from hell and uh I’ll.
Tell you what if he doesn’t move Joyce Wow, that’s scary! You know what, if, if whale, if Wilder doesn’t move Joyce or even phase him with that shot, that’s that’s dangerous! That’S very dangerous! You got ta.
You got a man that can’t be knocked out.
That’S what you got, how did that go? I know you were really uh you’re really excited for it.
First off, I’m not gon na give too much away, obviously, but it’s now on YouTube.
So if you go to the last bell, Boxing YouTube channel tonight, we’ll record an interview with Golden Boy: Legend, Roberto, Diaz, nice, and we cover the upcoming shows on Golden Boy recover.
The fact that they’re having Thursday night shows at the minute now they go in and how’s it Landing with the boxing public in North America mainland.
But then we move on to Connie Eubank versus sorry.
Connie.
Um Roberto gives his views on that and he also talks about the Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua, okay with a little sprinkling of Ryan Garcia as well um throughout the video.
So it’s well worth a watch so sorry about the same as plug talking.
No, it’s! Okay! Yo, do it do it up, it’s great it’ll, be good I’ll, be watching it after you sent it over to me.
So I’m definitely gon na check it out.
Um yo Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua.
What’S what’s what’s the word over on the pond over there with? What’S going on so so we’re a bit perplexed as a boxing community in the UK fight funds, because obviously it seems it took a lot of twists and turns um.
I don’t think that’s.
Employee Fury for AJ was gon na, take the terms and when he did it Marta surprised him a little bit.
I think so, but then he started coming out and seeing it um.
It was gon na fight manual child.
It was going to retire.
It was going to fight David shizora.
Then he was talking about farting.
Joe Joyce is almost getting every other day, yeah yeah, so um, I think he’s dead in the water.
Now, as a fight, I think AJ will go on a little bit of a wheel tour.
If I’m very lines, I think you want.
The design will take him to Australia, maybe a couple of chick over fights for AJ and then maybe jump back in for for a belt touching Fiora.
Who knows my because it’s a character in town.
I know I know I know man, I know he’s.
You know what he likes to troll people on social media.
So much you know, he’s a total character.
I love.
I love the the Antics that this guy pulls.
I love the head games um, who knows what he’s gon na do next to be honest, but he owes the keys to the kingdom mate he does.
That is the thing right, but eventually that you know that time’s gon na come where he’s going to have to fight somebody if he hasn’t retired right, yeah, I’m not sure again, um.
I’M not sure why name named with some people on your channel seem to have a bit of an agenda against Mr Fiore um.
I won’t name names, but I don’t really understand why, because I I went I’ll bore him with the heavy weight division be without Tyson.
Fury and seen us all honestly, it wouldn’t be as entertaining because you know what some of these guys just don’t know how to control that mic man.
They don’t know how to create, create hype and, honestly he creates hype and when he retires, when he retires we’re gon na need somebody that can replace that kind of hype, because you know what, without that, you don’t sell tickets.
Man – and you know some of these guys – some of these guys stay silent.
You know they stay silent during it.
They don’t talk on their social media.
What they don’t understand is we want you to because that’s what gets us ready for the fight? That’S what excites us that that’s? What makes the viewers buy tickets? That’S what makes them pay for the event you know and and without a character.
It’S it’s not gon na.
You know it’ll tend to fall off and we can’t have that man, but honestly Fury he’s just got ta he’s got he’s gon na he’s gon na either have to give it up or he’s gon na have to get in the ring.
I don’t care who he fights.
I just want to see him do it again and please can this sort it out in North America regarding Spence versus Crawford, because it feels like it’s been a decade in the making it’s still a decade in the making I mean what a great fight right, yeah Weapons yeah, honestly, it’s it’ll it’ll be a great fight, but let’s, let’s be real man, nobody wants to lose their Cash Cow and nobody wants to.
You know, have that loss.
It’S it’s just one of those games, man, it’s that politics, I’m gon na duck you I’m gon na Dodge you you’re gon na Dodge me we’re gon na die of the division.
Man yeah! It’S it’s! That’S that’s what it is man and it’s it’s sad.
It’S sad because without fights like that, other fights don’t happen that we want to have happen.
Um Champions need to fight Champions man and stop being scared to fight other Champions, because without it we just have a bunch of guys who think they’re Champions.
We need to have we need to find out man, we need to find it.
So, let’s be honest, North American boxing needs and mega fights to take place.
Yes, definitely and it’s on a lot of fights and including UK Fighters, and it’s I’m in a lot of the fights are going to Dubai and and the Middle East.
You know for financial reasons, let’s be brutally honest yeah.
We really do need to keep some Mega fights.
You know in our own territory like like North America in the UK.
Absolutely you know.
Definitely you know these other.
These other countries are stepping up man and paying the money to have these fights come.
You know, like you, know: Dubai Dubai, you know broke their own room and they they had two women fight each other on a card.
You know, that’s that’s breaking that’s groundbreaking.
You know and they’re doing that because they see the potential you know Revenue that’s coming in from these fights man they could.
On top of that, you know they got, you got to buy them and you got how many millionaires and billionaires in that one city.
You know they could sell, they could sell front row tickets for a million dollars.
A piece and they’re gon na sell out every single time up and it’s still a bit they’re.
Just doing a bit needs to be done around the atmosphere in the stadium yeah.
It’S not great view, it is it when you know yeah atmosphere is not particularly great um and just going to be well thought and shout out to Ben Shalom and bottom.
So obviously, they’re called the rearrange cards next week, which I’m looking forward to next Saturday yeah um again, another example of the UK lead in the way in World Box.
You know they definitely not.
You know what they definitely know how to put matches together.
Man, that’s right! Well, it’s a shame when boom Gardener and Michaela’s having to come over to the UK to buy each other, that’s really taking place in the U.
S.
Absolutely it should have 100 should have 100 shouldn’t, but you know what the money’s not there for it.
I guess you know they’re, not just they’re not willing to invest into it and it’s and it’s sad man.
You know we got great great female cat over here, and you know it’s sad that they they don’t get recognized or they don’t get.
The kind of payday they need over here is that changing, though, which I know top round yeah it’s starting to you know the money’s starting to be there uh.
Honestly it was the Amanda, Serrano and uh.
You know Katie Taylor fight, that’s really yeah yeah.
What a great fight you know, both those women walked away with a good.
You know a good amount of money.
You know groundbreaking historical event.
You know women’s women’s boxing in the U.
S and in Canada is on the uprise.
It’S quite interesting to know Mark because a lot of people who are taught to in the boxing community in the UK believe that it shouldn’t shouldn’t shouldn’t have necessarily been an all-female card.
They would have liked to have seen some male fighters on there yeah because that’s a true sense of equality now that maybe not my personal View, but there is some sentiment there in the regarding.
We still have a lot of a lot of people that don’t accept the women boxing.
You know, even even at the amateur level man like I’ve been you know, I’ve been traveling with my team.
Now we’re doing club shows and stuff to put in Ontario boxing back on the map and stuff, and you know I’m surprised that that there’s still that negativity uh at the at the early stages and especially this this late, you know in in years like come on Man, women’s boxing, has been an Olympic sport since 2012.
.
I can honestly say the Serrano versus Taylor fight it’s one of the Best Buys in a boxing male or female that I have witnessed in my lifetime.
Yeah yeah, honestly, you could.
That could have been a 15 round fake man for sure that could have easily been a 15 round fight.
That could have been three minute rounds, not a problem yeah and then for another one, John Jay Wilder, so obviously he’s coming back yep.
Does he win about again Mike? I don’t think so.
I don’t think so.
I think I think he suffered uh.
He suffered a big head injury in that last fight and uh.
I think I think he’s gon na come out and uh he’s not he’s not gon na be the same, and you know it’s.
When you get hand injuries like that man it’s one more blow and you could be done forever.
We learned a lot, won’t win that fight, we’ll learn a lot I’ll.
Tell you what the views anywhere near his best is right up there in that heavyweight division.
For me, yeah yeah, he is from from what I’ve seen from what I’ve seen so far in the heavyweight division yeah, if he’s, if he’s anywhere close to what he was, he’s, definitely a contender and he’s definitely a scary man to look out for in the division.
Wallets yeah and it and it’ll be the Devil Boy drawers yeah um.
So is it again? I’Ve said this a few times not many people could have made dillian white looking balanced tires and fury did.
I know and just look what he did to dillian White when he got into the ring yeah.
You know honestly and honestly, even with wild like even with wilder like okay, so he starts climbing again.
What happens he’s got to fight Fury again? Oh, oh, I don’t know who knows who knows, I honestly think you’d probably jump in with you for a full time.
I think I think he deep down inside still believes that he can whoop his ass.
Like uh yeah, you know deep down inside.
He believes it and – and he thinks that he can do it again and honestly, the longer taste in Fury sticks around, and you know after we see this performance of him depending on how good he looks.
That could be a possibility in the near future.
Yep you can still go back to during WBC.
Is he or is he one? I think I believe he’s ranked number two in WBC yeah, so you know he’s not into that many fights.
Is it no? No, not no, not at all.
Well, not everywhere, division.
My and if he is anyway name is best name.
Your Beats of apart from Bureau right, like he’s he’s he’s ranked above uh Ruiz Hunter, Martin Shaw, and you know like people like Trevor Brian Jerry Forrest and that’s all in the state.
Like he’s still ranked number one in the states yeah all right, which is understandable, isn’t it yeah, which is understandable, because when I read out the names that are underneath him? Who are these guys? You know what I mean like Andy Ruiz? Yes, we know but he’s getting up there too, but Deontay Wilder’s getting up there in H2 man we got ta can’t forget that he’s also 36.
yeah.
That’S that’s not yeah, there’s only two losses or the guy who’s wearing the belt, and you talk about the my belong to this world and people like that.
It it would clean my lunch right, wouldn’t it yeah yeah, he would yeah the only Joe Joyce who’s got.
A question mark over for me: that’s the only guy and honestly I’ve been watching George Royce for a while now and – and you know, he’s he’s honestly, I think he’s the next big thing in the heavyweight division.
Man.
Well, you know, Mark you’ve been on our Channel enough.
Um I’ve got it.
I’Ve defended Joe Joyce a lot from people who are saying it’s slow, it’s cumbersome, it’s not World level, and that includes Andrew co-presentative.
We’Ve had a lot of Ding Dongs over it.
Yeah.
Definitely.
Definitely does ding dong translate to Canadian.
It means it means the same over here, I’ll avoid them for a minute um but yeah.
I no Fighters.
Believe me, Joe Joyce, comes out, saying, is slow, saying, he’s cumbersome the all come out, saying he’s deceptively quick, actually yeah and, like honestly, that’s what like.
You can watch it in the last fight in his last fight like when he gets poker on the ropes, and he just starts unloading right.
The speed that he can pick up.
The thing is, is he doesn’t have to throw grow fast because even when he connects at the speed it comes, it’s still heavy like there’s still heavy fists he’s got power man but yeah.
Well, if he started working with, maybe somebody you know working on his speed and he could start you know blasting those hands out there faster he’s already Unstoppable now, but you know if he could pick up some speed and really and really start to let those hands Go, I think I think he’d be you know we we’d see it we’d, see the Unified for sure, maybe even an Undisputed, maybe even Undisputed.
The guy’s got a head like a brick he’s taking shots from you know, Fighters that literally would drop anybody.
Other everybody else in that division, I’m not sure Josh, didn’t feel he’ll be jumping in with him too quick.
No, I don’t think so.
I don’t see that happening.
Yeah, I’m not saying George beats it’s awesome boy, but he probably gives him the best part.
That’S out there at the minute yeah for sure for sure.
So you mentioned that there’s some fires on tonight Over in the it was that Zoo camera caught yeah, it’s uh yeah.
So it’s been streamed.
It’S a small little card um! You know, there’s a there’s! A couple well interesting, quite interesting, is Duke.
I never took the rematch really would I know I know he never took that rematch he’s fighting uh, Brandon, Benavides uh, it’s it’s gon na be a pretty good card.
Actually um! You know there’s uh Francisco on Renta is on there coming back off.
You know, like we haven’t seen him in a while he’s taking on Caesar Francis.
These guys are gon na go at it for sure I I love how it’s this new little uh ProBox tv.
com 1.
99 subscription uh.
You know it started by Roy Jones Jr, and you know a couple of the other uh other veterans in the game, so yeah as well, yeah yeah his as well and uh um.
I believe it’s also um uh.
What’S his name um Juan Juan Marquez yeah as well, and Antonio Tarver as well, I become dependent on boxing last week when there’s no boxes on you struggled ain’t.
You man, you know.
Honestly, there was just there’s there’s all these under like there’s all these Club.
You know cards and stuff, but you know what it is man, it’s Got ta, It’s got, ta be good.
It’S got to be people that are known there were some Knockouts, but there wasn’t anything great and I’d just like to say.
Congratulations on actually adopting some UK Talent on your channel yeah.
Do you want to just give me a shout out to your new UK member, our our wonderful, our wonderful new show.
It’S Friday I haven’t.
Even I I don’t.
I didn’t even watch it in the morning.
It’S our new woman, oh you’re, not meant to say that I haven’t had a chance.
I wasn’t up.
I was not up at that time of the morning.
That’S the problem, but yeah.
No definitely um yeah, it’s a it’s.
A great great new show check it out.
Fridays with Holly from the UK she’s great honestly, she knows her stuff uh.
She knows that she knows how to talk in front of the camera and she knows exactly what she’s talking about.
Definitely uh.
Definitely a great little.
I think he’s a very good choice by your platform to get some um UK Talent into your into your organization.
She’S gon na be uh she’s gon na be hitting up those events over there for us and I’m just thinking she may be able to move up on some some of the other presenters.
You know I won’t name names, but you know I think, she’ll be a good influence on on the rest of you on the rest of the broadcasting team, uh, honestly she’s going to be a great she’s, a great addition to the team.
We welcome her with open arms.
Honestly, it’s uh, it’s great man.
I can’t wait, can’t wait an opening bar if she wants to jump on last boat boxes on Thursday night 7 P.
M.
In the UK yeah more than welcome, obviously, as you all are definitely definitely always always I enjoy it.
It’S always a good time.
Uh yeah, so there’s a little card on tonight.
I’M definitely gon na watch that it’s getting underway soon.
Uh also, you know we got the uh, the cat, the El Campo card.
That’S happening that uh.
We can all watch now that uh Conor Ben’s, not fighting but uh.
That’S gon na be a good one.
Fedora Sebastian Fedora the tower Inferno.
We all know this kid man he’s 19-0 and one right now he’s taking on Carlos Ocampo who’s 34-1 WBC intern World super uh.
Carlos Adams is on this taking on Juan Montiel and we have a ton of fights on this card and there’s a bunch of up-and-comers to watch a bunch of guys trying to stay undefeated, uh Justin, Cardona, I’ve profiled him last week, uh this week on the show.
Definitely one to watch out for 8-0, taking on Angel robeller, there’s some there’s some great real undercard Fighters here, man uh definitely going to be a good fight to watch that one gets underway that one’s on USA, Showtime uh, so definitely a free event to watch over.
Here for us, but other than that, there’s not much more boxing going on in the world.
Man obviously looking to Netflix – and this is for Eric.
If Ollie did want to um, do a female special.
Then please pass my details on um and maybe we the footage that we film meet, we can share it.
We’Re talking about is why it wouldn’t be a problem.
Yeah sounds good, sounds good.
Well, you know what it’s about that time.
I think we’ll get underway.
I’M gon na go watch the fights.
Definitely Carl thanks for coming to join me today.
No problem, no problem, much much respect um! I’M gon na go and watch that wonderful interview that you just dropped so guys don’t forget to check that out last well.
Boxing just dropped a wonderful interview with a legend, I’m gon na go and watch that and give my two cents to the comments uh.
So yes, Carl again, thank you very much for joining man.
It was a problem.
It was a pleasure and uh yeah man to all the Talking fight fans, thanks for tuning in we’ll see you next week same time same channel new topics,
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