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EPISODE: Episode 1
Our group of panelists, including champ Tim Witherspoon and author Lou Eisen, provide another weekly roundup of boxing headlines and an array of updates about upcoming bouts and boxers – and share current events and news with the many fans across the world that enjoy the great sport of Boxing!
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Panel future myself, grumpy, Graham and Lou Eisen noted historian and author soon to be published author.
Thank you, you’re welcome.
So we were just talking before going live to air that uh the ratings.
If you will, for the Shakur Stevenson fight last night were not great uh and the NTI fight before him ended in a draw.
So boxing fans out in Las Vegas were not very happy with that outcome at all uh, but nonetheless, uh wanted to talk about the uh, the the old age pensioners fight that took place last weekend, uh, that’s incredible that that was allowed down in down in Kingston, Jamaica yeah, I mean well, maybe that maybe that explains it uh well yeah I mean maybe they was like that because they were high, but I mean I think, even even being in Kingston and smoking getting high.
There wouldn’t have made that fight any more palatable.
I think it was just I watched a bit of the replay, but these were two one.
You know Tony’s 55, his brains are already scrambled, yep uh, razor Ruck um is 60 and this is going to keep happening until someone dies until someone has a heart attack or someone gets punched hard enough to be killed.
But in this fight there were a couple of good punches, but it shouldn’t have happened and to license it.
It can’t be licensed in the States, but it just shows you the criminality uh inherit in boxing that the license.
Anyone and the fact is, I mean if they had to pass a physical, they probably couldn’t maybe in Jamaica they could, but not to North American Standards and also, you know you just mentioned Shakur Stevenson and Navar, who should be fighting each other and Oscar De La Hoya address this, you know we got ta start making fights that f want.
Otherwise the sport will die.
Yes, I me this attitude of promoters like we don’t care what you want.
We’Re g we’re gon na have Tyson Fury, fight, Derek Jora five more times in a row.
People don’t want that.
Let the fans have what they want: yeah and uh.
The interesting thing is, as we talked about last week, that we need to expand the boundaries.
If you will, we can’t all be these uh, all British uh fights that the fans scream for in England, but no nobody else cares around the world right it.
You know in 20s, 30s and 40s, two like in the 30s, the two best fighters in the early 30s were welterweight champ, Jimmy McLaren and Junior welterweight and lightweight champion Barney Ross people wanted them to fight so they fought.
But if it was today it you know, it would take years to get it done and they’ll be jocking back and forth, and you know they how about the money split well, McLaren said: you’re a champion, I’m a champion, let’s split it even and fight, and that Wouldn’T happen today, you know that’s why Tyson Fury hasn’t fought.
Usyk already, usyk said I’ll, agree to a a 6040 split and then and then Fury said.
I want 75 25.
Okay.
Now I want 9010, at which point you said, come on.
You know you’re not going to get 100 % of the money.
I have three of the belts you have one, and I think Fury is just delaying this.
I, although they’re supposed to fight February 17th, I don’t think that will come off I’ll, believe it.
When I see it – and I think Navar getting a draw last night showed that maybe it’s too much, you know too much too many fights hard fights and Too Short a time and it’s starting to wear on them.
Speaking of where, just just to go back to that pensioners fight down in Kingston uh, they actually had to, they were starting off uh with three-minute rounds, but I think it was like after the second round, they H cut it down to two two minute rounds.
So I thought it was uh pretty funny I’ve.
I’Ve never heard of that.
Never don’t seen it, but never never heard of that.
No I’ve never heard of that.
In a licensed fight, and – and you know, I guess there was a real fear like someone could have a heart attack, and you know I mean if there’s there’s, not presidents, there’s president for this presidents for uh for old guys, fighting each other Roy Jones Dyson and That but there have fights, as you know, Graham where the guy’s well trained, but he’s so anxious and nervous and so and so hyped up that he fights 15 rounds in the first two and that happened with Haggler Hearns Hearns was in great shape.
But he said, Haggler never gave me a chance to do what I want.
So I had no choice.
I had to stand there and Slug and I didn’t want to do that and by the end of the second round I was exhausted.
You know, but these guys weren’t hitting each other and they were exhausted, just the effort of missing TI anyway.
It it was funny.
I mean, obviously I didn’t catch it live.
I saw like you, the the replays and uh it was.
It was funny to watch it.
It actually was, there were more solid, punches landed at the Canadian Football League Hall of Fame thing years ago, when Joe cap and Angelo mosca went at it with their respective canes.
That’S right and those guys remember that they were in their 70s and they were whacking.
Each other yeah yeah with their canes yeah yeah and that that was a real fight.
You could charge for that, but to charge money.
For that I mean that’s a joke yeah, you know.
So we have some fights up coming.
Let’S have a quick look here over in the UK.
We’Ve got aim versus pedigene.
I I believe, that’s Adam aim.
I could be wrong.
I wonder when Michael Conlin’s coming back or even if he is coming back fight news because he suffered two bad knockout losses in his last three fights.
Michael.
Let’S have a look Michael conin, Irish boxer.
We knew that featherweight uh.
Does he have anything coming up? I always thought he’d be a wow.
Wow can’t believe he’s 31 already um the Olympics.
That goes quick.
No, he doesn’t have anything upcoming at all wow.
You know a guy like C reminds me a bit of the way he fights uh.
You know.
Reading about battling Nelson and Fighters like terrible Terry McGovern, featherweight and bwe champ and AD walgast lightweight champ, they wolgast and McGovern had severe pugilistic of Dementia by the time they were 25.
So many sits in such a short period of time face first Walkin Sluggers.
Take Five six, seven shots to land, one and then uh didn’t know who they were where they were, and it was sad you know just had their brains bashed in that weren’t weren’t taught any better and and also didn’t have an amateur pedigree, because people were starving Back then so they had to support their family.
They had to fight.
It was the one thing they could do.
Well, yep, and interestingly enough, I I got ta, say here: um just just having a quick cruise through box rack having a look at uh fighting around the world.
Just there are um Australia, Germany, um B.
These These are fight nights like I like an entire card.
Eador uh France uh several Germany again another fight, there’s a card coming up with United promotions here soon with Brandon Cook, Ghana, wow uh Brandon’s, always a good fighter well worth watching.
India wow just goes on Italy, Mexico, so uh.
Quite a lot of fights going on this weekend, despite uh the headlines, a lot of it, a lot of it um depends on the jurisdiction where it’s easier to get fights licensed right.
You know it’s easier in Montreal than Toronto, because they’re their their licensing is done by the alcohol board and gaming board.
There’S no there’s no Quebec athletic commission.
So there’s people that get to fight that come up from Mexico, as we said of Janette zakaras, who have no experience, but they get license, but in Toronto you know or Ontario you could bring in an MRI and the Ontario athletic commission said it’s a month old Right I haven’t fought since then.
Well, we need an updated one, so that’s ridiculous, and but that happens and that prevents a lot of fights yeah.
There would be more in Ontario if we had a better athletic commission run by honest people who knew what they were doing, but they figure we’ll take it out of the hands of boxing people and put it in the hands of government and every time in the States when they say we should have the federal government running boxing and there’s always someone who says they can’t run the country.
How do you think they’re gon na run the sport of boxing you? They can’t get medical care for people, they can’t feed people or House people or help homeless people or people that are mentally ill and need a special education.
You think they really care or could do better with people punching themselves, not gon na happen.
They the fight.
You were mentioning before uh down the road from us actually is December, 2nd at the Pickering Casino put on by United boxing right.
That was a good showing yeah.
So so we’ll talk about that in a couple of weeks, yeah Brandon always fights his hard H too.
He’S what you call a a really good professional fighter he comes to fight, gives you a great show and he’s very skilled and tough as nails and and like all, fighters of Brandon speak to him outside of the Ring he’s just sweetest, shiest uh, most polite person, But once he gets in the ring his face changes and he’s there to go to war.
Oh seems like there’s a good good battle going on in Manchester tomorrow night Nick ball Isaac, dogbo Denzel Bentley versus Nathan, Heeney Liam Davies versus Veno lefa.
Those are good names.
I I worry about Isaac dog dog, because he’s he’s passed his best before dat yeah yeah and just his father, hadn’t fighting the wrong style, and he had his time.
But you know was in boxing your time could be one or two fights: yep uh someone who’s been on talking fight several times; actually Hannah Rankin she’s up against Emma Coen Nathaniel Collins, going up against Zach Miller and eeko Usman going up against Harry scarf right, yeah.
So some some some good fights over Manchester tomorrow night, I’ve been reading all week, a book sent to me and I’m gon na interview when I finish it by Joe B, who wrote a book on Joe Janette part of the original black murderers World, great heavyweight on The Gotti Brothers called thunder and lightning on Joe and arati, and I was reading the chapter about how arera lost um the angel man Freddy, although he had him out in the last round and man Freddy – was pushing his head down so when he threw a punch, He hit him low and lost a point.
Then he lost two in a row to Ivan Robinson and he said to the promoter main events.
I don’t like I’m, not a guy who likes to chase guys.
I need someone who’s gon na stand in front of me and fight.
You know you got to improve the matchmaking and – and he was right but took too much punishment in In Too Short a time and aruro was a gifted technical box or he just very rarely used it.
And I didn’t know when reading about him that he was an alcoholic during his career and taking copious amounts of different drugs huh.
So his friends thought the fact that he could even get in the ring and fight with these people was just incredible: hey Mike how you feeling good better better, I was dying of covid or something the uh for the last couple of weeks.
One of my friends just in in Victoria, has it for the third time well yeah.
I guess this is.
This – must have been my first uh but uh yeah.
No, it wasn’t good.
I uh couldn’t breathe, couldn’t couldn’t talk without coughing, it was.
It was pretty bad laid up in bed.
Oh well, now, now I’m better! So it’s so it’s all good now did uh did, did we watch? Did we watch the uh Stevenson fight last night, everybody? I didn’t.
I didn’t know it was on yeah.
No, it was Stevenson what a lackluster performance.
Well, there you go aw, he got booed, he they got, they got boo, it was garbage uh, honestly uh.
He apologized he apologized at the end of the fight and said that uh, you know he’s sorry that he wasn’t on point uh.
It was very, very boring, very, very boring.
Uh neet fought to a draw yeah yeah yo.
I can’t believe that, though, I can’t believe that how do you, how do you fight to the draw after you drop a man twice? Is it in Vegas, yes, yeah yeah that that happens um it it shouldn’t that that should be enough technically in a 12 round fight to give you points Advantage, I mean he doesn’t mean he wins.
Every round just means he won those two rounds by a big margin.
So now now it’s a 10 round fight and out of all he’s got to do now is win five rounds out of the next 10 and he wins and surely he did that.
But you know this is this is the kind of thing where people watch the fight and they go forget it not worth it not coming back.
You know they got to stop doing that to people now already’s good for boxing.
I I just never great he’s great and and like when they screwed recently, and I thought why well you know, I can’t believe Max Max Duca and Chris Flores both scored this thing.
Even so, I I don’t know what fight these guys were watching uh.
You know.
I I didn’t believe it, but you know what let’s, let’s see, let’s see a rematch, that’s what I’m saying Maxa, as I said before, to you couldn’t score a fired at a Bea, ining, [, Laughter, ] contest.
Sorry, okay, Max DeLuca is older than baseball.
I mean you’re seeing you’re seeing that he might not have been watching that fight.
He might have been watching something I think, he’s technically blind.
Who has a record of scoring terrible scoring fights and there’s no review yeah.
You know it it’s it’s similar to.
You know.
You’Re hitting a home run in baseball and the Umpire is saying: no, it’s not a home run.
Why? I don’t have to tell you why? Well, obviously, Major League Baseball would say: well you can’t do that you they they would look into it but boxing’s.
It’S all right, he knocked down a couple times, doesn’t matter we we, we can’t do anything about it, but you can do something about it.
You can look at his card and say he made a mistake.
He’S old he’s done this before you know, yeah his scor card wouldn’t compare favorably to a scorecard from Ray Charles.
You know what I’m saying.
So it’s ridiculous that a guy like that.
Why why can’t bot team say: listen! You’Re in your late 80s! You you, you scored fights before you’ve made bad you’ve made mistakes.
You’Re done this, isn’t communism, you don’t get a guaranteed job, bring in somebody younger who knows what they’re doing or have a panel.
I think every fight, especially every major title fight – needs to be reviewed.
Yeah it should you know, and they have to be able to say sorry, you screwed up fans paid money for that now fans will be hesitant to pay money the next time, because there’s no guarantee.
That’S true.
You know very true: it’s not like if it’s a close fight and you go well, I think he edged it in this round or that round.
But if you know when there’s knockdowns, knockdowns and Knockouts are definitive, they can’t be argued, you know so very true.
I you know this.
The thing that kills me is online recently, someone said uh just because Lennox Lewis knocked out Mike Tyson doesn’t mean he’s a better fighter, and I said’ really.
How do you what’s the metric you use, then? Just because my team got eight goals and yours got, one doesn’t mean you won.
Well, that’s the way boxing works and so on the same post people said well Tyson had a better chin and I said Tyson was dropped five times, Lewis twice.
So how can you say he’s got a better chin yeah, but this was late in his career right, it’s late in his career.
He wasn’t the champ you, you know he switched to chocolate, milk from soy, milk, in other words, if it’s an American fan and an American fighter losses, don’t count, and now they do knockdowns.
But when it’s a Canadian fighter, then they count.
You can’t have it both ways.
You know it’s got to be one way or the other.
It’S got to be one rule for everyone or the rules.
Don’T count.
You know and knock down, twoo round that you know that would be 108.
108.
You know 2016.
Let’S say it’s the first two rounds: that’s the four-point lead, that’s really hard to overcome.
You know his opponent would have need to score, would have needed to score at least one knock down even P, even let alone to get a draw.
I mean remember the only other fight that happened was Pacquiao and and um Marquez when, when ju Manuel Marquez, when pacel dropped him three times in the first round and Marquez got up and fought his butt off for the next 11 and it was a draw.
But even then I thought you know, Pacquiao beat him, but right.
The inaptitude and the criminality of this sport got to be eliminated.
Yeah yeah, it does um.
Some great fights, though, were put up.
Last night, um Floyd Diaz came through with a split decision over Max ornelles uh for that WBC youth, World bantom title uh, our boy, Troy Eisley, coached by Ronald Sims uh.
He took the unanimous decision over Vladimir Hernandez um Giovani s sanoto.
He you know TKO over Lucas de Abu ABW was down twice in round three for that one Abdullah Mason victory over Jose cardz.
That was a TKO that one was in the second round out of the scheduled six so abdulla, Mason stays undefeated our man, Emilio Vargas, KO over bran Mendoza wow.
What a swarming event that was uh Vargas was just on this guy from from from the beginning, was that Fernando vargas’s son? Yes, yes, they have that dynasty.
They have the dynasty team over there.
Now, with all these kids right, yeah yeah Milano is is, is looking really really good he’s really coming into his own he’s really swarming the crap out of these kids man that that keep putting them in the ring against and last night was no joke.
You know he showed.
Why he’s? Why he’s got that name, man, that Vargas name, he really showed uh showed true to it.
He came through he swarmed him and just just destroyed this kid man following him all over the Ring.
The Ref had to step in and call that one off uh.
You know he just wasn’t able to defend, but uh big fights.
Last night it was excellent uh Brian Norman Jr, our friend uh, came through with a unanimous decision Victory last night as well he’s looking really good uh.
He moves to what 24-0 21 Knockouts wow yeah yeah yeah some serious, serious stuff going on in the boxing world.
With these young guys yeah, you know what it’s interesting Mike is.
I was just telling, Graham before you came on that I’m reading a book a friend wrote on the Gody Brothers, Joe and aruro.
It’S called thunder and lightning and the interesting thing about aruro when they asked him about his brawling style.
He said people, it’s called a fight for a reason: people pay money.
They appreciate a good technical, foxer, someone who had skills, but you know to to tap me on the face and then run.
That’S not really a fight.
That’S like that’s like playing Red Rover or tag.
Yeah people want to see a fight.
That’S why they’re paying money? If they wanted to see guys run, they turn on the TV and watch the Olympics or go to a schoolyard, and people want to get value for what they’re paying so guys that go in and hit you quickly with two or three Jabs and then run.
It’S not a fight right, you know, and and it’s not criticizing Ali or who’s phenomenal or or Shakur Stevenson.
But really you want to see some fisticuffs.
The only fighter I truly disliked was was Jan Frank, was a junior middle and he was tap, tap, tap and run and eventually just ran out of opponents, because guys said I I you know than he had a title, but he said I’m not they’re, not even Interested in fighting him what what’s what’s the point you’re not going to fight me, you’re just going to tap me and run, and I it’s ridiculous.
You got to give the fans what they want.
Yeah and you know what tomorrow they’re getting some great great boxing action.
Going on, I don’t know if you guys touched on it yet but um, you know we got uh seven title fights in one night, wow this this one’s gon na be great November 18th, guys uh this one Queensberry promotions, TNT Sports, uh yeah can’t wait to see This one, no foot, no Club football that day so all the Die, Hard fans from places like London, Liverpool and a few other cities can let loose have a blast and support their Hometown uh fighters in Manchester.
So this one’s great Nathan, Haney uh Stones, pride and joy, with an impressive 170 record, is taking on Denzel Bentley for the British middleweight title uh, that’s uh, you know Nick ball, WBC silver champ is taking on Dogo uh.
We got the ladies.
We got the WBC super Welter championship.
Title is up for grabs Hannah Rankin from Glasgow fighting Emma Coen from Sylvania uh.
Then we got the uh Anthony, Anthony C Cas taking on Ryan Garner this Clash of wits and fists experience meets young blood is anyone’s game.
Uh.
Liam Davies, a champ uh, with a Shine from his recent Victory, is gearing up to defend his title against uh vincino, leima uh.
They say age before Beauty, but in the ring.
Well, that’s a different story.
We all know that uh, the next spectacular features uh EA Usman and Harry scarf uh.
It’S a Nottingham versus Derby welterweight Showdown word on the street.
Cody Crawley doesn’t ink the paper tonight.
Usman is going to be dancing with scur instead, so yeah, that’s what happened.
Guys drama outside the ring, Crawley’s a welterweight, and who is he supposed to fight Usman yeah? He was supposed to fight Usman.
What’S Usman first name EA, and he what belt does he hold uh right now I will bring it up.
Uh he’s held the British and Commonwealth Welterweight Title since 2021 and he’s he’s the former English Welterweight Champion right.
That’S it’d be nice for him to have the Commonwealth title, but it’s not really important.
Now that he’s based in Las Vegas it’d be good to stay busy.
So yeah Harry, scarf and ham are going to they’re going to go uh they’re, going to go underway here for the uh British Welter, Commonwealth Welter and the ibf European Welter.
You know who the last Canadian was to hold the British and Commonwealth welterweight Championship um.
No, but I know you [ Laughter ] do Donovan Bu The Road Warrior, yes, good friend, good good friend of mine, actually great guy knocked out Kirkland Lang and performing with Clyde gray.
I have to tell you a quick funny story about him.
I’M talking to Donovan at a boxing fight and then I get a text from it was a scam text hi.
This is Donovan, bue and and how you doing I said.
Oh, I’m doing you know uh how you doing and we talk for a bit and then I gave the phone to Donovan and said it’s interesting you’re claiming to be me because I’m right here with my friend Lou.
So, if you’re, actually, here at Mrs Saga Center, why don’t you come over and say hi I’d really like to meet you guy just disappears and blocks me so yeah yeah, Donovan Donovan was the first guest uh that I had on my show: KN great guy, great Figh first guy I interviewed, got the nickname The Road Warrior because uh you know he uh.
He went on the road and and just demolished you in your hometown.
That’S right – and I remember watching him on ESPN and they said who is this Canadian guy and did did the same thing with Billy, the Kid Eran and then a couple seconds later: um uh, Donovan Li’s, a tremendous right uppercut and the guy falls face first out Cold in New York, yeah and the referee didn’t count and then ancers are you know what maybe he’s better than we’ve been giving him credit for yeah most Canadians, but they don’t understand.
We don’t need you to give us credit exactly exactly um, I’m I’m.
I’M super excited for this uh this this one getting underway, though uh you know it’s.
It’S a Manchester Arena, United Kingdom BT Sports got this one Nick ball, taking on Isaac, dogbo, WBC silver feather, can’t wait to see it Liam Davies.
Taking on you know for the title: The Ebu European super bantom.
You know we got Denzel Bentley fighting for that British middle.
We got Nathaniel Collins fighting for the British feather and then we have Hannah Rankin fighting for the WBC super Welter and then we have Solomon’s fighting for the British uh English heavy.
So Mike, would you agree that Isaac dog bay or bow or whatever it is, is a shot fighter? Yes, okay, because Graham – and I were just saying that before that you know I would I would agree – I would agree.
Yeah um he’s got he’s, got he’s, got the ability, but um, you know he’s taken too many beatings.
Recently, yeah yeah, you know like that’s, you know, he’s 24 and three right now, uh, you know 15 Knockouts he’s been knocked out once uh pretty bad himself.
Uh.
You know, honestly, his last loss against robes Ramirez.
You know they went the.
They went the distance 12 rounds there uh he was down in round 12.
For that one uh.
You know before that.
You know Emanuel nete yeah, he lost he lost to him back toback.
The first time he lost was 2018 in December, the eth uh that one went uh unanimous and then he fights him again, uh in 2019, uh little more than a year later May 11th and then uh.
You know, dogbo was down in rounds 6 and 12 referee stopped the boat after the corner threw in the towels.
So that was father’s fault.
Father yeah um, but you know out of his three losses.
You know to lose to netti twice man.
That means you know.
You’Ve been there, you’ve been there fighting for that world stage and you haven’t been able to get past it uh he’s just one of those guys um.
You know he did fight uh joet Gonzalez to take on uh.
You know to win that WBO International feather uh.
He fought Christopher Diaz for the North American boxing Federation, feather um.
You know and then lost to robes Ramirez for that WBO World feather and he held the world title at one point: yes, yes, more than I’ll ever do and – and you look at guys like that, I mean they’re trying to recapture the Lost Glory.
You can’t blame them who who wouldn’t to a mountain top, but it’s in his in so many cases is like him with him.
It’S just it’s a law of diminishing returns, plus he’s fighting bigger guys.
He doesn’t have the reach.
He’S got ta, get inside and walk through Hellfire and not just he can’t do it right.
You know it’s.
It’S it’s unfortunate! It’S gon na be uh.
It’S gon na be a great event.
This one 2 pm Eastern Standard Time guys gets underway.
It’S gon na be great uh big night of fights.
Then we move into um.
We move into uh Pico versus uh conceras.
This one uh gets away 900m uh.
Diego Pico is all set to dazle the boxing scene as he squares off against Marcelo korz for the WBO International and US WBC super middleweight titles uh.
This one is scheduled tomorrow, night uh at the YouTube theater in Los Angeles Pico.
You know he’s that fiery boxing sensation undefeated record 19-0, with 16 Kos – you know – continues to SAR high in his great boxing Journey.
You know his recent outing in July was nothing short of spectacular where he showcases Talent, uh against the formidable Manuel gelos in Montery Mexico, a ruthless body shot sent his opponent to the ground uh in the fourth round, making Pacho the first ever to stop the Mexican Powerhouse and Manel, so you know this kid – I’ve been watching this kid for a while for a while now and his rise uh, you know he’s just he’s just further cementing himself as that dominated dominating person in the division uh.
You know what are your thoughts on Pico’s Journey so far becoming mustat TV, I’m just gon na say you said a ruthless body punch it’s funny that they call it ruthless, because it’s as, if he’s goingon, to give the guy a warning in a couple SE, the Liver so hard, you involuntarily piss your pants, but but um yeah I mean he’s a great fighter.
He’S got all the skills and – and it’s great it’s great to see a guy like that – reminds me of that.
Guy from Puerto Rico, who was on TV recently he’s got the but short hair and the rose on the side.
I think he’s a lightweight or welterweight um, I’m a greatl, looking young kid 19 20 and he signed with Top Rank and just a wonderful fighter and takes his time and just throw like Pacho just throws quick punches puts it together in combination.
Does everything you’re supposed to do right? If you look at P, say you’d say to another Boxer? This is what you’re supposed to be doing.
This is how it looks when it’s done.
Well, that’s how good he is yeah yeah.
Definitely definitely some good uh, some good action so guys make sure you’re tune in for all of this.
You don’t want to miss it uh this gon na be great.
I’M super excited for it.
I was really excited for last night’s fights uh man.
I I stayed up and watched that I was a little tired when I got up this morning just because of watching that, but definitely definitely some good fights going on this weekend.
Well, you know I I keep.
Reading online about um, I know you take everything online with the great assault, but about um.
Deontay Wilder hasn’t fought in a while and Anthony Joshua, and then I I happen on to an article about Deontay, Wilder’s younger brother, who had no amateur experiences, something like four and six four or three and five is a professional and he’s been knocked out.
I think three times by guys that were like one and 10 and one in 16.
So it’s it’s unbelievable that they’re allowing to fight.
I don’t I don’t know if weever see Deontay Wilder again.
In the I mean he suffered D when he speak.
If we don’t, if we don’t see him, I’m not gon na lose sleep over it.
I think it’s better for him to just sit at home at this point anyway, man yeah, you know every every shot.
This guy takes is just another brain getting killed.
Yeah yeah.
I I agree, he doesn’t need the money.
So why bother exactly exactly he got into this to make money to help his daughter? You know: that’s uh, you have you, have a couple $ 40 million paydays, I’m pretty sure you have money, yeah and and him and I like Andy Ruiz, but I haven’t seen him in a while he’s got power and Joshua’s not gon na fight him again.
So I think Joshua is desperate for an opponent I mean every time you hear Eddie Hearn speak, which is you know, grahe and I just GNA you guys you guys just start laughing just mention that guy’s name, I’m laughing.
You know.
Edie Hearn starts speaking over um.
My you know a backyard flowers will, thanks to the fertilization, flowers will start growing, so something about him online and some and said you’re calling him a liar, and I said I’m calling him a stranger from the truth is what I’m calling him and that’s what he Is I like that that’s an old Winston churcher Line because in h commment you can’t call someone a liar, so someone said, Mr Prime Minister, are you calling me a liar and he said no, I’m calling you a stranger from the truth.
So uh, I don’t know who Joshua would fight next, who is there he’s not gon na fight usyk he’s not gon na fight he’s fighting he’s fighting on the 23rd who’s.
He fighting on the big card in Saudi Arabia, yeah he’s fighting yeah, yeah and Wilder’s fighting too.
I did not know that okay yeah, I thought he was gon na fight Selma Hayek but uh.
I thought he was gon na fight him way.
His way out of a paper bag – yes – and I I heard that Wilder was fighting Selena Gomez, but I didn’t know if that was actually true or not the should.
I should have quit at the hyek joke, but but yeah Joshua’s fighting Wallen W.
Yes, I saw that on television yeah and the Wilder’s facing Joseph Parker, who just knocked out the can okay yeah, that’s right, Simon Kean, Simon Kean, yeah! Well, Simon, wasn’t too Keen that night, no, no! No um, honestly theone tomorrow, night 900m, Erica Cruz Hernandez uh Mar Marilyn Rivas fighting for that WBA World Super bantom title up for grabs uh.
That’S that’s also on the on the same docket here as Pico and korus or korus um Ked Yi is on this one.
Taking on Jonathan Rodriguez for the WBA, InterContinental Phantom title and another kid that I like to see always staying busy Mark Castro is taking on Gonzo, F fandila and we got and we got jayen walker, uh love this kid man, 11 and0 taking on uh, Jorge uh V ass, so this is a pretty good card, guys sure you watch these two kids, man, Castro and walker uh.
Definitely some upand comers that hav been watching for a long time.
Definitely they shine every time they’re in the ring – and you know I don’t see them losing here – Castro, big, puncher, Walker, lots of speed.
You know we’ve had talked about these kids many times Mike is speaking of revas.
Is there anything coming up for Oscar Rivas out of Montreal or is he is he permanently on Hiatus? I think he’s I think, he’s permanently on Hiatus.
I haven’t really heard too much about him.
Lately, yeah, nothing, there’s nothing really scheduled at the moment.
Uh.
You know his last fight was against Riki there uh back was it last month on the 22nd, but uh other than that.
I don’t didn’t he fight Riki before that last month he fought him a while ago um.
I believe he fought him before, for that must have been a long time ago.
Okay, uh yeah, but he took on Rosen Nikki uh last month.
Uh beat him by unanimous decision.
Okay, Rivers was deducted a point in round 12 for a low blow during that one.
But uh yeah um, that was the last fight.
I don’t know where we’re gon na see him next, but definitely I’d like to see him back in the ring soon uh yeah.
I agree.
Let me ask you that that gigantic guy from Montreal MC mood – oh he’s, he’s on he’s on December 23rd – fight as well: okay, yeah he’s yeah, ARS, Mech, and – and let me let me ask you about mm from Montreal: do you think a fight with Jared Anderson? Now is too soon for him or guy like Daniel du, or does he need more seasoning? You know what I I’d like to see, who mcud the guy from heavyweight the giant heavyweight yeah they they could put him in.
They could put him in with somebody like like Jared Anderson now or they could put somebody you know he he’s he’s, got the ability he’s he’s one of these fast heavyweight guys like you know where, where where it takes some of these guys a few strides to Get across the ring this guy can make it across the ring.
Like he’s, you know a middleweight and he’s got he’s got the movement and um.
You know I don’t see too much too many people that’ll be able to take this guy on later on in the career man, so it’s better to get it out of the way.
Now already he’s already pretty feared, he’s already pretty feared he’s.
Definitely one of these guys that’s got uh some heavy heavy hands.
You know every time I see this guy he’s just dinging people out.
You know they call him the lion for a reason right.
You know people have to understand the term heavy hands, and by that you know what I mean you don’t have to hit a guy flush to hurt him the guy’s, so strong his hands are so powerful.
He could hit you a glancing blow and and not break your jaw and knock you yeah and you know yeah.
Definitely You Got ta, Be You got ta, be scared of this guy he’s taking on Ajit cabal uh.
So right this.
This should be a good one.
You know, I think, uh you know, cabel cabel is gon na be in for a rude awakening.
I know he’s 23 and 0 right now, uh, but definitely, I think, um.
I think our man mega manov is gon na come through and just just eat this guy.
For dinner, you know sure he’s six3, this German, you know 31 years old uh, you know coming off.
His last fight really is is, is all German right, like he’s he’s really hasn’t fought um too many people be nice to him on that fight and someone who uh we just mentioned Daniel dubba he’s fighting uh Gerald Miller, the American, oh okay.
How old is Miller now I don’t know the last time he was supposed to fight was uh.
He was supposed to fight Joshua and he got stopped because he was he had more drugs than whatever like so he’s now, but anyway he was making a hell of a fuss at the press conference.
I don’t know if you guys read the press conference or saw it.
It was really quite funny.
I mean the guy’s got a motor mouth and he he was really going off onou.
No, I’m talking about Gerald Miller.
Oh okay! No! He didn’t Jos Hearn.
That’S what reminds me if he’s 35, it sounds like a set up.
I I’m 35 he’s also he’s also the other B he’s the other big baby.
You know we got Big Baby Anderson, big baby.
He was the guy that was caught three or four times on drugs, and then you know complained that he said it was someone else and one of the writers being a liar.
In addition to being a liar, you have multiple personality disorder, so why should they give you a license? I mean this guy is look how heavy this guy.
At that point, you don’t even know who’s showing up but yeah.
No, he that’s very fun.
It wasn’t me.
It was the other me him, I’m not me the other me hold on hold on.
Let me get him um this guy, though this guy’s a this guy’s a monster like he weighs in you know he he fought Lucas.
He fought Lucas Brown uh back in March and uh.
He weighed in it 333 pounds yeah, their combined weight was more than my apartment building.
So it’s incredible.
Yeah weight was 600 pounds, man between the two guys in the ring.
That sounds like my old grandmother.
I mean incredible: how can you allow that in box – I don’t even know I don’t even I’m just gon na say how that be good for your heart? No – and there was one of my favorite SCT TV sketches with John Candy, he’s playing this boxer and he’s at training for months and months, and his trainer played by Joe Flair, looks at the scales and says you’ve been training for 12 weeks.
You gained 80 pounds you’re supposed to lose.
Oh, I didn’t know that you just said 80 pounds.
You never said lose 80 pound.
You just said 80 pounds, so I gained 880 pounds so and you look at I mean obviously Miller’s.
Not training he’s not taking it seriously and I mean and he’s fighting mmud.
He is Dan.
Daniel DUIs, yeah DUIs should kill him.
Oh yeah, no deis deis is a heavy favorite in this one for sure um.
Definitely uh he’s he’s gon na be honestly.
I don’t see this going too fast um.
You know guys guys like that they just don’t have a gas tank Miller’s not gon na go too fast unless duu has a Buffet behind him, unless they got front row tickets to the buffet at the casino.
That’S right! Listen, I got a spaghetti plate waiting for me and a and 12 hamburgers.
You really got ta help me out here, Daniel yeah.
It’S not gon na they’re they’re every round, they’re filling them with protein.
Shake referee breaks them up.
You can’t bring the Shake in during the round.
Why not? No you can’t, but he he I mean if D’s smart, he doesn’t really even have to hit him just run.
Just move make this oh yeah, no he’ll just Tire up he’ll just TI.
I mean to walk up.
The steps into the ring Miller will ask, for you know for a break.
Just wait.
Just wait.
Just wait till we see just wait till we see the ring walk.
The ring walk will depict everything.
I bet you, the camera won’t.
I bet you, the camera won’t even won’t even pan to him, because he’ll be like walking out.
He be like be like, like last last night, they were talking last night.
They were talking about one of the fighters coming out.
Oh, he looked a little dry.
That won’t be the problem here, folks that guy will be sweating from like his ball side like just on the walk.
I mean Miller, he’s Rodney Dangerfield fat.
I’M tell you yeah he’s all right now, but last week he was in rough shape.
You know I’m so fat two women can make love to them at the same time and never meet.
You know what I’m saying guy you couldn’t pan to him because he’s I mean he’s bigger than the curvature of the Earth itself, so he’s he’s, and he deserves to hear comments like that, because when I met Ken Norton 25 years after his career was over, he Was still in fighting shape, he wasn’t even a pound, overweight, yeah, you know, and yeah and and Miller will never have the skill of a Ken Norton.
So this is it’s an insult to fight fans at least show you care.
You know I mean I, although I didn’t think he was that skilled, the Polish fighter from New York, Adam kosi or karosi.
He lost his last fight against the guy he probably should have beat, but he said I gave it my best.
I wasn’t good enough and you can respect that right.
I and like willly dot.
I went as far as my ability could take me: I’m not an elite fighter, but this guy Miller.
It’S just he’s – been pulling a dis, scam that sham on folks on boxing public.
For years, how does he still get fights like? I said this is first one since 2019.
I think I mean it must fly him over in cargo hold.
They use a shipping plane twoes he get, he gets.
He gets fedexed over.
I’M telling you he’ll be a rich man if he gets paid per pound – that’s for sure, oh um, so so Joshua’s taking on Wallen, we got Wilder taking on Parker duah Miller, bivel Arthur, you know, uh yeah light heavyweight.
This is this: is the only well there’s two non heavyweight titles on this card.
We’Ve got bivel taking on Arthur and we got optia taking on Zoro, so we got the cruiserweight and the light heavy who’s who’s.
Pardon me who’s Arthur’s, First lynon, Arthur, okay, L, yeah lynon, Arthur what 23 and one right now that one’s for the WBA superworld yeah light heavy um.
You know G, it’s going on for the against Ellis Zoro for the ibf world Cruiser.
I can’t wait to see arson back.
I love watching this kid.
Every time he’s in there Frank Sanchez is taking on Junior fa nice to see him in the ring.
That’S should be a good one, and then we got Philip aroic taking on Mark deori.
That should be a quick and uh quick and easy one for him.
Um aroic, another big guy that I like watching man this this guy’s a monster as well Frank Sanchez is one of those Fighters.
That’S always good good, always well prepared and really skilled, and I don’t think he gets enough credit or publicity he’s one of those guys, that’s always prepared, so they know they can always count on him to jump into the, and though we were making fun of Miller It reminds me of Ali when he fought Buster matthysse now, Buster matthysse was 64 330 pounds and always had problem with his weight and Ally was easily beating him and I think around the 10th or 11th round allly just walked away hey.
He said to the referee: I’m not going to kill him, so the referee said you have to keep hitting him or disqualify.
He said then go ahead.
I’M not gon na kill him man.
He can’t defend himself anymore.
Stop the fight! You know! No, that’s um! You know so there’s another guy that I watched he’s he’s in he’s in Australia.
I watched him he last time.
I see him was a couple years ago.
He’S got one of the longest reaches in boxing um, Julius something uh, something Julius big black dude and I watch this guy fight and I mean like so out of shape like 350 3 julus long, that’s it! Yes! I know you know why, because on one of my sub recent substack articles I wrote a thing called The Harder They Fall or the bigger.
They are yeah and he was one of Fighters.
I featured he’s over seven feet he’s over seven feet.
Tall he’s got like a freaking 90 inch reach yeah.
I think it’s like 90, 91 or 92 inch reach, and I mean like this guy fights, leaning on the ropes like that’s how he fights and he loses all the time he’s froma, all the all the time he fights back on that rope, he’s leaning on that Rope just using the Rope to move around because he can’t move around unless he’s on the Rope.
Yes and the largest the tallest fighter I ever found was a guy um uh from Australia who, who was named art, pip guider, and he was 8 feet.
Two inches tall, oh wow, and this is in the 30s.
He had two fights against guys with losing records and he won them.
Both there were fourr round fights and then he died of tuberculosis not long after, but I’ve me i’ in the article I’ve seen guys that were 76 77 and um there was a guy.
There was a a British champion named Ben Kant, CA n there for one foul and he went to the states and he found this guy uh guy Ben.
I can’t remember the guy’s name Chase was or something anyways the guy he found was 7 feet4 inches tall and he brought him back to England, and this guy had had three fights in one and quit.
He won them all, and I asked him why he said.
I don’t fancy getting hit in the face that much it’s not really my idea of a job right.
I don’t really want to do this, but there have been Fighters that have been 75 76 close eight feet and it’s it, and the point of my article was for some reason, and even today, with Tyson Fury and YK uh or David Price people think that tremendous Height equates to talent, and it never does.
There’S no there’s no correlation.
You know yeah, you know so that that’s why a guy like David Haye, easily beat Nikolai valf value, didn’t have the skill yeah.
He was seven feet, two inches tall, but he was like ye.
I mean, if you look at him, he had gigantism and he he couldn’t.
He did.
He just didn’t, have the skill and they say well, he beat Holyfield yeah, he beat a 44 year old, Evander Holyfield who, who was out of shape.
You know and was jumping to hit him so guys like that, usually have short it just.
It never equates that Julie long.
I stumbled on.
I stumbled onto him uh when he first fought Hemi AO back in 2019 uh.
I believe he that by unanimous decision – and he was coming off Julius long – was coming off a knockout um, a knockout loss against um Lucas Brown, and then you know he went on and and like he honestly Julie long is still fighting now like he.
He fought uh last month against yeah.
He fought he fought last month, uh on you know in the hometown, there, Gold Coast convention center and he took on um Tosi Vu and he lost TKO in that one.
But now, if you notice um, his fights are only be scheduled for, like you know, in the last in the last few, he’s only been scheduled, for you know, six rounds round fights three round fights because he can’t last like his last loss.
It was four rounder.
This is a guy who’s.
Now, 46 he’s 46 years old 90 inch reach seven1 yeah.
He got he got, he got, he got.
You got TKO in the fourth.
He went the distance.
His last fight that he got knocked out in was when he took on hamia heio in a rematch uh.
This was back in February 27th, 2021 and uh.
Aio was down around four but came back and koed him in uh in uh, in the freaking seventh round.
Yeah, I know that I know that long uh, the guy he lost to recently, was actually had a winning record was a good fighter.
So you know yeah give him kudos for taking him on, but these guys just usually Ed to tell Jones – and these guys are just so devoid of of of talent.
It’S amazing.
They even get a license two box right right and, and honestly, I think, because you know like Julius long ever since 2013 has relocated to Australia, and I really believe that’s just because of his career like his career was going south.
Then right, like you, know up and until then up until then he was kind of like a 50-50 fighter.
You know maybe maybe like a little bit of a more winning than losing record, but then uh.
You know he took.
He took a couple of bad beats.
There and then uh he he started having to search for a place to go and have these fights happen, yeah, yeah and uh.
You know 20 2013.
He ends up uh, you know getting on a plane going to Australia and just I guess, never came back because every fight he’s been on since 2013 has been in the UK or sorry not in the UK, in in in New Zealand, yeah, Australia and New Zealand.
So he fights all over there.
The only Fighters I know of in the last 300 years that have been super tall and successful are the klitch goes and Tyson Fury.
I mean Lennox is five six5 and three quarters, but I mean guys that are close to really close to seven feet and guys, like that aren’t skilled, usually, but ecliptical were Fury’s, quite skilled yeah.
You know I mean guys like, like Carl, the truth Williams.
You know 646 65.
He could fight a bit but never got over the hump and you know there’s a famous story.
I end my article.
There was going to be a fight between wil Chamberlain, who was like 73 against Muhammad Ali 63, and this was after Ali.
Had been kicked out of boxing, so he needed the money.
There was more money in 68 than he’d ever been offered and they met no room and they were about to sign the contract and they said to Muhammad.
Is there anything you say before? Will chamblin signs the contract, you want to say, and he said yes: [, Music, ], [, Laughter, ] Timber, Chamberlin, turned completely white and walked out and then Ally looked at the cameraman or the reporter and said why on Earth does a basketball player even if he’s 50 feet tall think he can beat me the best fighter on on this planet.
He’S got to be deranged yeah, oh yeah completely.
At least your reach is great till I land my first overhand right and then you’re.
That’S it that’s it! It’S it’s! It’S! It’S skill! Man, it’s skill having the skill and the know how how to get get around that extra long reach.
You know when a guy really knows how to use that reach like, for instance, last night um, here’s a guy that knew how to how to fight against that uh.
The guy who fought Brian Norman Jr right Junior Junior’s.
One of these guys he likes to swarm likes to get in on that side and then overwhelm you with the volume of punching and the speed and ferociousness right he’s one of those exciting Fighters last night, the guy that he was fighting.
He couldn’t keep him off.
You know he kept.
He kept guys who have a Long Reach, can’t do anything on the inside because they just don’t have that ability because they fight from the outside.
So if you, if you can capitalize on that, follow that shot in come in underneath it and stay on that body on the inside, then you know it’s easy to take these big guys out.
Yeah and all the great oldtime trainers used to say you know height and reach.
Advantages are meaningless unless you know how to use them properly.
Exactly exactly so many of these guys, don’t so like you’re saying you know, Paul Williams, when he fought Eris, Landa and Paul Williams’s welterweight, it was 62, you know or something like that and Lara was 5758 but Lara almost killed him and, of course, Williams got a A gift decision and that, but it was a joke because Lara just stayed on the inside and Williams, couldn’t hit him and he just destroyed Williams, who was never the same after and and and after the fight Lara said yeah I won and they robbed me, but Physically who’s, the better man.
Now it was Lara.
You know, there’s there’s another guy that I I don’t know.
I don’t know what we’re gon na see from this kid.
Uh Sebastian fandora.
We all know this kid Ty, you know he’s he’s a super super Welter Southpaw.
Six, five and a half with an 80 inch reach, but fights on inside and and and I never thought that was smart because he’s making himself a Target you know and and in his last fight he became that Target and Brian Mendoza took him out.
That’S right took him out and koed him in the seventh round.
You know: Mendoza was com.
Mendoza came from behind to win that one.
You know he was losing on the cards and all of a sudden, he just capitalized on the fact that this kid did not use his reach.
That’S why you know I I I praise His sister more than him.
You know his sister knows how to use that to her Advantage.
She just she just won that ibf title um, you know what was it last month the month before you know it’s it’s it’s it’s funny.
When you see guys like that that just he could be so much better, he won’t.
His sister was smart because she wore her glasses in the ring too, which you can’t hit her because of that, but but I also think um with with someone like that.
I mean it all comes back to Charlie Goldwin, train Marciano and other world champions.
So Marciano was only 510, but but Goldman had worked with terrible Terry McGovern and in the 18 late 1890s early 1900s and it was Goldman.
Who said you got to turn your disadvantages into strengths and what you do is if you’re short you fight from an exaggerated Crouch.
You make yourself less of a Target and and if you’re tall and on the perimeter or like you said you have to fight from the perimeter and use your reach Force, the other guy to lean in and then you C him and use his momentum against against
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