Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall | The Scorecard with Cedric Benn | Talkin Fight
EPISODE: Episode 4
Ceric and his guests discuss the controversial fight of Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall.
Compubox says Josh Taylor averaged 6.1 landed punches per round while Jack Catterall averaged 10 punches landed per round. Catterall landed 39 jabs over 12 rounds to Taylor’s 16 jabs. Catterall landed 81 power punches, and Taylor landed 57.
There were many observers who felt Taylor was very fortunate to walk away with the world titles.
The scores were 113-112 for Catterall, 114-111 for Taylor, and 113-112 for Taylor.
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What up what up? What up welcome back to the scorecard? Oh, my man, randy ells! What up! What up, how you feeling, what up, what up all right? All right! Let’S get right into it! Um a the controversial controversial scorecard, uh uh uh fight from yesterday! In the uk josh taylor versus uh, mr caddaro, i don’t know what it what his first name is.
That’S so much of a jack catering came out of nowhere a tough fighter, but um was a big underdog um.
So, starting with the official scorecards um, the official scorecards were 113 112 for cadderol 114 111 for taylor and 113 to 112 for taylor um, a lot of people most people are are thinking that should not have went that way.
Um, a lot of people are saying that uh cataract should have won it, but uh.
That’S why we have this scorecard to to to.
You know talk about your official scorecard and your uh educated opinion.
So randy you go ahead, go ahead.
First, give your scorecard and then um well um yeah.
My scorecard was pretty much um, my scorecard, where i had cataract winning 114 111.
I um i like i said.
Also i made a comment also um.
I watched it off sky sports, the sky sports network um, which showed no biases.
It seemed like the way espn top rank does with andre ward.
Whatever you want to call it.
Um yeah a lot of people.
A lot of people were uh we’re uh, going crazy on the andre ward score card, but anyways go ahead, continue my bet for kanye, so um like i when i started watching it, and i wanted to make sure that i actually, i also actually, after the first Round like i was impressed with to definitely cater after the first round this first round he um he came on straw in the first round um, but i wasn’t when, after the first round i did which i did give to catter roll.
What threw me off was when the announcer said something along lines.
Caddyroll clearly won that round after i heard that i didn’t want to be influenced on anything else.
Just in case i turned the volume down uh yeah, like i said, i said i thought um.
I thought caddyroll won the fight.
Definitely taylor picked it up later, on which he also acknowledged some i’m watching a pre-fight interview, whatever it may be, or the post fight whatever it may be, and yeah taylor himself even even said himself.
I started late.
I was behind early, like he even admitted that himself um that he that he was behind and it took him a while to to to pick up this piece whatever it may be, so so to have andre ward scorecard having taylor win three of the first four Rounds to me is just ridiculous: um, that’s just ridiculous to me and um, like i lay everybody all over the twitter world.
Everybody all over is pretty much saying the same thing like that, like andre ward, sometimes shows favoritism or just a little bit biased because of the top ranked guys that are with them.
I feel and that’s that that’s exactly what happened in his scorecard.
I hear you.
I hear you my specific scorecard people were going off on me.
I actually had it for 114 to 112 for taylor um.
I had you know, and you know i always talk about this app.
These guys need to thank us because i bring these guys up.
Every single episode um this app here, which randy put me on to um, judge pad.
There’S a there’s the place where you can click.
You know, there’s a button that you can press for.
If you think it’s a close round and you can write little notes in between um but the other best thing about this at the end of the fight, you can click and it’ll it’ll, give you a breakdown and everything so um.
Specifically, i had five close rounds.
Um three of the close rounds i gave to to taylor two of them i gave to cadderol now, if i would have gave all the close rounds, it gives you the breakdown, like you know, if, if i would have gave all the the close rounds to catterall Um he would have won 115 111.
So and that’s what i mean man and to be honest with you, i know people are crazy.
You talked about the first uh board game thing.
Cataral, i mean taylor three of the first four rounds, be honest with you.
So did i, but i marked it um.
The second round was close um just going through my notes here: yeah they were, they were close rounds.
I didn’t have.
I didn’t write any notes for the first three rounds, but i did mark the second round as close um, so yeah man and round all together, so all together.
What i’m saying is that you must have gave catter only four rounds: one two [ Music, ] yeah.
How did he definitely won more than four rounds? Um? Just i don’t know i i uh.
I didn’t think that he i thought i just thought they were close.
I didn’t think like he’d landed as much.
I thought they were both.
They were both doing her thing.
Taylor, we were expecting taylor to blow this guy out the water um i’m confused.
What do you mean i’m confused when you say you didn’t think he’d deland as much i’m confused by that? What do you mean by that? No, no, no um! What i’m saying is catterall um he did not land as as as much do you do do we have the punch count, yeah counter outlanded him in every round, except one round yeah as far as the punch count, but you know it’s also the effectiveness of the Punch again, it’s not clear, i’m not saying like taylor clearly won those rounds.
I just thought they were close.
I just thought taylor still did enough to win some of those close rounds, but i could, i could definitely see see uh see it going.
The other way, too, you know um yeah.
Well, that’s like i said, that’s, that’s probably where that’s definitely where we differ.
Um, like i said like like i said i was even i was like.
I said, i think the majority i think um i think, warts card like i i like, i said that that to me is ridiculous, but, like i bet me personally, like i said ward, let me know taylor even himself said himself um.
He was behind in the early round like even he even even himself.
He said that so that’s where i’m confused.
Yes, we had to pick it up.
He was outlanded and all and he was outlanded in every round.
He was outlanded like i think it was uh.
It was it was, it was a it was, it was, it was ridiculous and there it was ridiculous.
He only landed six punches.
I think in the in the last two rounds, taylor yeah, oh actually, and remember, round 11.
I don’t know that was a great one.
The first one we got to talk about that referee too um i had taylor winning that that uh round i mean uh round 11, but he got that point taken away.
So i had to be a nine-nine round.
I gave that a nine-nine round as well yeah yeah cause that i didn’t.
I don’t know, i didn’t think he needed to take a point away from that round.
Eight is when uh is when taylor got knocked down, so obviously that was a ten eight round for for cadderall um right cleared.
What were you gon na say something about that? No, no! I’M gon na agree with that.
At 108 round i gave 108 round two.
The same thing for cat rock catter on round eight, the nine nine round and uh eleven i um, but at the same time for him to say, cataract, only won four rounds, three rounds outside of the 10-8 round like uh.
No, that’s uh, that’s uh! That’S that! I i’m i’m with that with that scorecard, so i guess i’ll have to go back and uh.
Look at that again and see what the hell i was seeing because yeah like like i was saying i was like i was watching the interview.
I was watching the joss taylor interview and uh.
Even ben davidson even told told him in the 12th round you’re gon na you got to get a knockout to win.
That’S what davidson told him you know.
Maybe he just said that david you’re gon na have to get a knockout to win this fight.
He said he felt like then something maybe he changed.
I i just told him that i thought he was behind.
He told him that going into the 12th round, he didn’t knock out to win um yeah.
The coach tells you that.
If the coach tells you that you know, then it’s really close and you don’t want to tell your fighter that he’s losing.
But like you got to tell him like yo, you better, you better pick it up.
So if for ben davidson to say that then yeah yeah yeah, he uh then taylor himself, like i said, i’m just i’m, also just going back from taylor’s from taylor’s own words.
Basically yeah, i started off slow um.
I gave him the early rounds.
I i started off slow, he.
You know, i picked it up late.
That’S him even admitting that so no, but he said he clearly started won the fight, though he clearly didn’t.
He didn’t just think right, i mean i definitely he’s gon na say that i mean, but at the same time he thought he won the he thought he won the fight only because he felt he picked it up later on, not because he won early rounds yeah, But that’s what that’s, what he that’s, what he that’s, what came out of his words himself.
He said i lost those early rounds, um that in itself, when you say early rounds it it could mean two or three not exactly six.
He said he said he picked.
It up at the fifth at the fifth round: that’s what he said at the fifth round.
Okay, so he won by one point i felt like picked it up.
He said, but i was losing them.
I was losing so even with that logic, uh the first two or three rounds could have been.
You know what i mean like, but, like i gave catter all definitely the round one.
I think andre ward is probably the only one that probably i don’t know man like i said i i’m definitely not in agreement going into round nine.
It was even i i i i definitely i definitely going into round nine.
I was not in agreement with that.
Like ward’s, getting ripped apart for a scorecard and rightfully so to be honest with you, i just don’t see.
I don’t see that i don’t see that whatsoever, not at all um twitter world saying the same thing everybody on twitter is all over that you even admitted yourself would not you admit it, but you said that, would you say bradley was going off yeah.
He was proud, tim bradley was going crazy, come on man, like i mean even even i was on twitter, even even friends of josh taylor.
Like you know, i mean yeah.
I was going for you, but you know you lost that fight.
I mean we i mean, like i mean scorecard, is what it is, but that’s what we’re here for, but at the same time, a lot of times when you score when these controversial scorecards go are are like this me personally, i like to go with what the Majority and what the fans and what the majority, what they, what what they feel you know what i mean the same thing with the writer, the writer jacobs last week or two weeks back writer won the fight the whole majority twitter world, blah blah the majority of Them they definitely seen that as a robbery and and you’re and you’re getting the same kind of uh you’re, getting the same kind of uh um feedback and outrage with this fight as well.
Yeah yeah yeah.
This them was definitely controversial um.
You know what i now now, what do you think would be next for for uh, for both guys, the camera has all four belts.
That’S crazy! This guy came out of nowhere and has all four belts.
Has the undisputed has the undisputed uh cattle roll? Isn’T he no taylor won the fight? Oh that’s right: yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah wow healer won the fight.
What i was thinking is, it is the rematch because he doesn’t have to rematch him um yeah yeah yeah yeah.
He should he should.
To be honest, we give him a reading match before going to one before going to 147.
I i i believe, mostly i don’t think that’s gon na happen.
I think he’s gon na.
I think he’s gon na move to 147 and vacate all them belts and all them belts will be up for straps.
You know what i mean: um yeah, i i don’t see him given that rematch.
I don’t see him.
I don’t even know why he moves up to 147 because if he thinks about trying to fight crawford at 147, the way he looked against caddyroll, that’s not going to go too well for him.
He should stay down at 140.
I think keep his ass down at 140 uh uh, unless he yeah, because that jump man some guys.
You know they don’t um they don’t they don’t look like when you move up in weight classes, you’re either you your skill level has to be higher or your power has to as the as to be there.
Um he’s not bringing no power exactly exactly because at no point in time did he actually hurt catterall? Well, did he? No? I thought man, i don’t think at any point in time.
He actually hurt him um so yeah.
If he does go to 147, he’s gon na have to have a some type of uh, not a tune-up fight, but not one of the top guys.
Some of the show that he could he could hang at that at that weight class.
You know it’s kind of like off the top of my head, i’m just thinking about someone like danny garcia, who was great at you – know: 135.
140, i’m not sure if he started 135, but at 140 he was.
You know one of the top guys pound for pound at 147, not so much not so much and he’s talking about doing that.
154 yeah danny’s thing about moving up to 154.
So i don’t see that i don’t see.
I i see i i personally like danny garcia, beating beating on taylor yeah yeah yeah yeah.
About that i don’t i don’t i.
I don’t see that i don’t really see um um taylor, taylor, um, taylor um, like i said i thought, caddaro beat him and i think that i don’t think he’s uh he if he wants to move up to maybe 140.
Maybe you need to avenge that and look more impressively and try to move up to 147.
You mean if he, if he wants to move to 147, maybe he needs to fight catterall one more time, just uh, maybe even try to prove to himself that you know what i mean like, because that was not impressive at all and uh.
The majority feel counter role won.
You know yeah yeah, they do.
They do um all right.
Let’S talk about uh gary russell, the i’m not sure what number he is.
All there’s like five brothers all named gary russell.
These are three you’re antoine russell, which one? What number is he, the third one anyways doesn’t even matter, i’m not sure in what order he could probably be the middle yeah.
Yeah yeah he’s the he’s the power one.
How about we get ranked them by the by their uh he’s the power one um 14-0.
Last night he fought victor postal um, a veteran good boxer, veteran um gary antoine russell.
Going into this fight.
He was 14-0 with 14 knockouts went the distance.
This fight ended in a stoppage too, so he kept the streak going.
But – and you guys all know me – i’m all about safety first um, but i you know that i believe that was an early stoppage.
We think about that.
One randy! Well, i’m right, along with you, we both were watching at the same time and um yeah that wasn’t really stoppage.
I just feel like um, i thought, with 20, with 30 seconds left 29 seconds left in the in the 12th round.
I i i just don’t believe that you should you should do that.
Poster was highly upset.
You don’t want to you, don’t want to have that.
You don’t want to be, nobody wants to be knocked out and he was not in no shape hurt.
Not at all man, not at all, he was still engaging um.
That was just a terrible stoppage and i just feel like that.
Ref in that fight, um was just maybe trying to have that knockout streak for russell to continue the referee.
Also in the taylor, um catterall fight was notoriously bad, like the referees yesterday, just a couple of them, just uh was like a lot of them.
They want to.
They want to be on, they know they’re on tv.
They want to make sure that uh, you know they get their little quick couple minutes of fame we’re not here to watch you referee, we’re here to watch the fighters exactly exactly.
You want to stay on tv for a couple of minutes just to talk to the one guy anyway, somebody um.
What was your score card for that one though i’m trying to i can’t i can’t find the official scorecard for the for the for the actual fight.
I have my scorecard on my phone here: i’m gon na pull it up, but talk about your scorecard.
While i look for the official one um, my scorecard for that russell fight ten rounds was a ten round fight.
Yeah i had um, i had russell.
I had russell going.
I had russell going into the last round.
I had russell up 87.
84 going into the last round uh i had it uh 86.
85 for russell okay, eighty-six point off yeah yeah, yeah um.
I gave russell rounds uh one three and then the rest of the fight.
After that i gave postal rounds two five six.
I gave postal rounds two five and six.
I gave him those num.
I gave him you.
He said two five and six.
I gave him round four two, but i marked it as a close round.
I remember i had um one two three close rounds marked and yeah.
I had three close rounds too close round to mark and two of them.
I gave to the crystal part of me around two in round six, i had two close rounds.
Yeah either way, we’re still pretty much in agreement with uh russell being only one point off is not that bad compared to a three or four point.
Difference like whoa, like that’s a that’s a that’s a big difference there, but being one one point off two points off not too much of a not too much of uh a shock there.
What do you think about uh the performance? I actually um this? I think this was a good step-up fight for uh for for mr russell um.
Yet this is his first time well, he basically went the distance.
The fight stopped like ended in the last minute of the last round, so he basically went the distance his first time going and going uh the the distance um and uh yeah man.
I just think he got hit just a little bit more a little bit more than uh.
You know for my liking, but post that you know postal is good man.
He knows how to use his long reach.
He was keeping them will do that, though you mentioned um.
I really like how you mentioned: uh the the uppercuts and those those right hands that uh that poster was landing specifically the uppercuts.
You mentioned how um, how uh russell ducks his head a lot when he comes forward and uh and – and it was open for that uppercut you know and then postal actually started.
That’S the punch that he started to land.
I said that the very first round yeah, you did yeah yeah yeah yeah.
It was maybe sometime maybe around round four or five when he actually threw it.
I damned her jumped out of my seat.
Yes, you got to keep that coming.
You know what i mean.
Yeah um poster was doing a good good good doing a great job by punching through the guard as well.
Like you know, uh yeah russell had his hands out like spread out um power shots.
You look great in this power shot.
You just push everything into them.
You can hear like uh remember like you, can hear his punches, even when when postal was blocking them like you can hear the thud on the punches when from uh from russell’s power, yeah yeah.
That was the difference.
So that’s you know, that’s as as a boxer when you know you’re facing someone.
That’S with that serious power like that, your your skills have to be on point um.
If poso, you know he’s tall and long, he didn’t use his jab as effectively as as you could have even against the southpaw.
You can still use your jab in in you know, kind of a different way um.
I thought he wanted to use his right hand board.
Yes, yeah yeah yeah pick it up earlier for that right upper.
I was calling for that right, uppercut, the uppercut since round one, but he could have still at least regardless of whether the uppercut you’re fighting a softball you’re orthodox, throw that right hand right down the middle when he threw it good things were happening.
He started to do that a little bit too late.
It’S almost like, and understandably so, understandably so he’s fighting a a guy who has a 100 knockout knockout ratio.
So you understand why he was just a little bit hesitant at first, but that’s that’s what that long! Jab is for that’s what you know.
We always talk about using that.
If you had used that long educated jab in the earlier rounds as a measuring stick that that right hand he could have fired postal could have fired that right hand a lot more um um.
So he started a bit late.
You can see the skills there, but russell that power man.
You can you know you could you could see why why he was uh, why he was at a hundred percent uh knockout knockout yeah, definitely um.
That was that was somebody to for sure.
That’S what that’s all about to say what weight class that’s 140.
, that was 140.
, okay, okay, okay, what is uh? What do you think’s next for mr russell? Well, all belts, it’s open, josh taylor has all developed so pretty soon that 140 division is about to be wide open.
If josh taylor decides to vacate all the belts, all them belts will have different mandatory stories and different rankings organizations.
So pretty soon that one formation is about to open up crazily and just taylor just moved up to 47.
Of course, yeah yeah yeah yeah, that’s gon na be interesting.
I don’t know why.
I keep thinking why a perfect fight would be um, danny, garcia versus josh taylor.
Both i think garcia is too big for taylor, especially with him.
Moving to 54.
garcia’s been talking to the 54 for, for maybe a year and a half now yeah yeah yeah yeah, that’s true, that’s true! There was supposed to maybe they were trying to get a fight with harrison with tony harrison.
They were talking about it at when he was first bringing up the idea of moving to 54.
, i’m not saying they have contractuals and anything along them lines.
I just know that was a name that garcia brought up if he moved to 54.
um yeah man.
Let’S get it’s uh going to be interesting, man um all right, just just we’re still talking about russell on them, but i’m just thinking who i watch we’ll go back to taylor at the end.
At the end of the end of the show, just around back, who do you think, would be a good matchup next um for uh for russell now i know he’s not.
Taylor hasn’t officially moved up well he’s he is going to.
Actually, we might as well just count it as him moving up right now, um so that thing’s going to be vacant.
What do you think they’re going to do they’re going to fight for they can’t fight for all four vacant belts? Are they going to be all separate like you got to win them one at a time again, yeah yeah, when the belts are yeah, you know how it goes, but all the evaporating okay, they got different rankings in all the organizations.
You know how that goes.
We were just talking about the wbc rankings at 168.
Why is lemieux ranked number two behind benavidez doesn’t make no sense.
The the different organizations have different rankings, so the top two people in each of those specific rankings, whatever it may be, and will fight for the they’ll fight for um like uh, the top two contenders, whatever you want to say, they will fight for that vacant belt.
When they, if they become vacant, if taylor moves up and um and that whole mix is going to be interesting with all the guys that at 135 from uh definitely going to be moving up, uh to 140 um, all the bunch of those those guys at 135.
Gon na be moving up to 140 so and that’s actually, that’s probably going to give them a little bit more incentive to move up to 140, knowing that uh um, the guy the person ross taylor, someone who is a high risk but low reward as far as Uh, you know uh money at the at the whatever pay-per-view.
Whatever um is not there anymore might give them a little bit more incentive.
You got jose ramirez, you got pedrozo, you got.
You got um, there’s a lot of good fights that they’re not good names.
time out, ramirez and fight next week, right, i’m sorry ramirez and you just mentioned uh ramirez and uh and pedro they’re fighting next week.
Aren’T they oh yeah? Oh yeah, 140 pounders, you got! You got toll grant 140.
You got ivan baranchuk whatever these guys.
The guys that were champions in the 140 um tournament regis program, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, regis progress.
I forgot about him: yeah ramirez, ranchick, wow, yeah, yeah, yeah, there’s um they’re, deep them little, those those 140s deep, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, definitely definitely um.
You got the 35s moving up.
You got lopez moving up to 40.
, i mean 130 135 and 140 divisions.
Those are great top to bottom yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, not just top hefty they’re deep, deep divisions, um moving on to the i’m having a hard time with this volume, i can hardly hear you.
Let me turn my up minds up all the way.
I’Ll talk a little bit louder, um the last one to go through chris colbert and hector garcia um.
Another upset this guy.
This guy hector garcia, took the fight on two and a half weeks notice.
This is why i’m telling like you have to stay in unless you’re a name like one of the top guys.
You know canelo one of these guys that no one’s gon na just surprise you and call you on a couple weeks notice right if you’re, if you’re one of the top guys, if you’re, not someone in not in the top 10, you need to be in shape.
All the time you need to be ready all the time working on your skills.
You don’t have to be in tip-top shape like you, don’t you know, but you know you know your body still needs to rest.
You know you don’t have to go hard every single day and seven days a week, but you still need to keep your skills up top and keep yourself in somewhat, not just not fight shape but good shape, at least for situations like this.
This guy, this guy hector garcia.
I don’t i don’t i off the top of my head.
I don’t remember seeing him fight before.
I recognize the name, but i don’t remember seeing him before.
Have you ever seen him coming guy once an upcoming guy 30 they’re, all upcoming they’re, trying to make a name trying to you know i mean blah blah so colbert’s not there for himself.
He was supposed to be fighting for a title.
Uh was it against.
I forget who was supposed to be fighting that didn’t plan out garcia was a late replacement, um hungry undefeated himself.
Like i said, i watched the press conference whatever leading up to it.
I was i wasn’t.
I just wasn’t.
I wasn’t a fan of how covert was the disrespect towards his opponent, i’m a big fan of respecting your opponent, not trying to i mean i know you got to sell fights.
I get that there’s still a way you can there’s still a way you can be professional about it at the same time too and um when that fight was going on.
Remember, i said the same thing round one i said: look this guy’s.
This guy might upset him man, i mean i was going for him.
You know he was too cocky didn’t felt.
He didn’t felt.
He was giving him his due respect.
When, when you do that they can come back bite, you um pull up your scorecard.
While i talk about mine, real quick, um yeah, this one, i mean we’re playing the scorecard, it wasn’t even close.
I had it 117 to 110 for uh for hector garcia um.
I had uh.
I had 1809 for garcia, 118, 109 yeah even wider um.
I had five close rounds um i gave three close rounds to uh.
Do you know where to find that part where it says i’m in the close rounds, the the at the bottom three close rounds? Um i gave three close rounds to to um colbert and two to garcia um, but it was still yeah 117 to 110.
It’S that wide margin.
For me with that wide margin, you know whether you 117 110 on your scorecard 118 109.
It was that it was wide scores, it was it was.
He was a clear win, yeah yeah, it was a there’s.
No, there was no controversy here.
Yeah, no controversy there, like the controversies of when them score cards, are tight.
The 115 113, the 114 one one.
Then one or two point score cards and then, when you get the two world in an upward, those are the course charts.
You want to compare yeah, yeah and um.
It’S funny how you mentioned the the trash talking like that’s.
Why just me personally like when i was competing, i was never.
I was never into the trash talking because i always thought to myself, like it’s all good at trash talk, but if you lose you’re, just gon na look stupid for all the [ __ ] that you were saying before and not not being able to back it Up right, like sometimes it’s okay, you know you can talk a little something just to just just to let people know that that uh, that you’re, serious and and not not playing around, but there’s no need to to be disrespectful.
Yeah man, like me like, if you want you, want to build the fight up and each fighter wants to build the fight up.
No, i mean you’re not going in there like you know, trying to prove you know somebody ain’t, no hoe.
I mean i get that but you’re in the fight game you’re both in the ring, so you just i just i’m just always big on just respecting your opponent.
At the same time, too, cold bear with colbert just um dismissed him like that, and you know this guy’s got a family and himself, you know got he got family people that are riding behind him too, like just just be more respectful at times to what is What i like, i you know i mean i’m more into, and i just i felt that and with him doing that i was going for the underdog because of that yeah yeah yeah.
I hear you, i hear you um.
So what is what is next for both guys now? This is that 130.
That fight was at 130.
, so this um, i think chris colbert he was.
He was kind of in that same situation with uh with josh taylor, as as what i mean is like they were both already kind of looking past this fight and already thinking about what they were going to do next and how they were going to fight next.
What was going to happen and um? Obviously, obviously you want you know you don’t just want to live day by day you you do want to plan for the future, but you can’t overlook today.
Um, i can understand josh taylor.
I can understand, maybe josh taylor a little bit overlooking because he has a champion, but he has all the belts.
Colbert is trying to get there at all times.
You, don’t you, don’t, have the luck to be overlooking somebody when you’re, not even a unified champion or even a don’t, even have a belt.
That’S a good point.
That’S a good point! Yeah! That’S the difference! That’S the difference! Um yeah yeah! I didn’t even think about that yeah taylor.
He had a right.
He had a right to kind of kind of feel like that being the undecided, he had the right to talk, [ __, ], yeah yeah.
He earned it colbert.
He doesn’t even have that strap.
Yet he’s not even considered the best that 130 shakur is you know what i mean he hasn’t got a belt.
Taylor is widely regarded as the ring magazine top dog at 140.
So in that position you can sometimes overlook somebody just because of you’re the top dog colbert is nowhere near that top dog status in his weight division, so for him to overlook and be cocky, and it’s not.
That was a bad look for him to overlook.
No, you you, you haven’t, earned anything to overlook anybody yet you’re trying to get there yeah yeah yeah! That’S a good! That’S a good point! Yeah! I didn’t think of it that way.
Yeah that makes sense.
It makes perfect sense that works um all right.
So what is what is so now what’s next for um, for both guys at 1 30.
for let’s start with robert first well, he wants a rematch, no there’s no need for garcia.
Given that rematch we had no belts in the line.
There’S nothing! I beat you fair and square, i move up and go for a shot myself.
There’S no need for some girls, i’m on the bigger and better things i’m out yeah, i’m out of here.
You know what i mean deuces, i’m out of here.
You know yeah yeah, yeah, um, colbert, he’s got to regroup.
Yeah definitely needs to regroup, uh, maybe chill on the talking focus more on the fighting um and he needs to he’s like come back with some some either some good knockouts or just some spectacular performances.
He has a pop, he has no pop in his punches and when you get further up in in 130, you’re going to need some pop you’re fighting shakur stevenson or the mc or the bird shouts.
The val deserves those guys that are in that 130, where you’re trying to be, you better, have some serious pop to at least wake them up or give them something to think about, and he doesn’t have that whatsoever.
Yeah yeah you’re right, he needs he’s.
Gon na have to sit down more on his punches, because i don’t know or do you want to, or does he make 26 i don’t know yeah.
That would be a weight thing depending how disciplined he is with his with his fat ticket.
He doesn’t have the power he’s not carrying no power up up in 130.
No, no, definitely not, because, even even in the later rounds, when when he was clearly losing like he wasn’t, he was still kind of he was in the later rounds.
He was still fighting as if he was winning like backing up and just kind of kind of popping.
You know hot shots, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, if you’re losing like you, have to have a like.
He didn’t have a plan b.
He didn’t have a plan b.
That’S an emergency.
You got to be able to adjust because normally normally he fights like that, just out boxes guys if he doesn’t, if he doesn’t stop them, you’ll just outbox right, but when plan a is not working, you had to adjust and go to plan b or c.
It didn’t look like he had a plan b or c all right, um, just right he’s overlooking him had his own style.
This is what i’m gon na.
Do he didn’t you know what i mean didn’t take in consideration, wait a minute.
This is what i want to do, but if this fighter doesn’t allow me to do this and one [ __ ] up one concerning thing, you can pull it up again too.
You know um, that’s why i don’t like you know, watching fight with too many people, because i like to like to hear what’s what’s uh, the coaches are saying in between rounds and stuff like that they showed a couple of clips of the of um colbert’s coach.
Talking to him between rounds, especially in the later rounds – and i didn’t really see a sense of well – they did.
I sorry they did give him a sense of urgency, but they should have been more on him and a question more adamant.
Yes, exactly and and a questionable thing i’ve seen from colbert like going into the last round.
He gave his coaches hug and said: i’m sorry like he was already like conceding yeah.
He came up and said: i’m sorry like defeated himself, yeah yeah, i’m going all out right now.
Yes, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, like he’s already yeah the fight wasn’t over, but he’s so in his head.
He already knew he lost like he already like checked out.
He gave up yeah yeah, checked out, tapped out basically yeah yeah yeah fight these last three minutes and get this check and then uh.
Let me let me get up out of here.
Get my check, i’m going home, i’m out of here man.
Let me just check: let me just about um yeah yeah yeah.
There you have it um.
Now we covered three fights any anything, any other uh comments you want to talk about any of those fights.
No, i pretty much uh pretty much uh um gotten into everything.
Like i said we, the gary antoine russell fight, was pretty much standard.
He won the fight, there’s no controversy there.
The only controversy is that they shouldn’t have stopped it now.
It felt bad for post with them, stopping it yeah that was yeah yeah.
That’S a terrible stoppage that that’s nice and again you guys know i’m all about safety first, but that that wasn’t early stoppage.
He wasn’t yeah, i’m going to agree with that.
We of course want to protect the fighters with safety, but yeah.
He was not damaging whatsoever and he could have.
He could have still stand up and lasted them last 30 seconds and at least lose with the dignity on his feet or on you know what i mean like, but don’t do that to him.
You know i mean i don’t i didn’t agree with that: mm-hmm yeah, yeah, yeah and um and again you know another reason.
I love this uh.
This show the scorecard – and i appreciate your boxing knowledge, because you know you’re, one of the only people that actually challenge me challenge challenge, and i appreciate that make you have to think and and go back specifically with.
You know what we talked about today: taylor and caddarol um, whatever i could admit you know if i’m wrong, you know you were watching the fight.
You know i could go back and see all right.
I i must, if everyone’s looking at this way, i must have some.
I must have missed so yeah yeah.
You know what i’m saying like i’m saying.
I just believe that um i just i guess i just believe that they might have to take andre water up them score cards and make bradley or something um and and and not rip and trying to rip on ward.
Like you know, we we all have highly respect for a word hall of famer.
Like you know, um he’s just terrible doing score cards is what i’m saying you know.
I mean he’s terrible at the scorecard or more or less.
I just feel like.
He was definitely in favor kind of in a way of his fellow espn top ranked guy with taylor.
You know what i mean, you know um.
I understand it’s a friend, but you got to have a little bit object.
Objectivity as well, which will show your credible with fans watching it.
You know i mean now from here on in everybody’s – got this label of uh word.
Oh, he can’t score a fight, so every score card he does from here on in well.
We’Ll have some question mark you get my point, i mean like you know, you want to still be credible.
At least too yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
I hear you um.
What do we have next week? What are we scoring next week? Well that week definitely the ramirez and pedraza.
Yes, yes, yes, okay, okay, um, can’t think of anything off offhand.
Anything else, i’m you know, but uh, definitely looking at looking forward to that yeah for sure for sure um.
Actually, oh there’s a card today today, yeah today, yeah yeah, that’s uh.
It starts at two.
Let me just be a tough fight for him uh who is it again? Anyways? I don’t know the guy, but i know it’s a step up in competition.
That’S for sure.
Yeah, it’s going to be it’s going to be a tough fight, the guy – i i i forget off him, but i do remember looking into it.
Um, i’m not really familiar with the uk fighters as much, but i really want to.
I want to get into it more to learn more about them and so paying attention, especially with the the zone network and their uk fan base.
But looking into that fight, this guy’s supposed to be a slick uh somebody who slicked himself, you know i mean the opponent so and look who was seeing this fight he’s still at cruiser right right, he’s not officially yet heavyweight.
Yet right, no he’s not cruiserweight he’s talking about going to heavyweight, but like maybe you should just wrap up the you need to clean up clean up your division, clean out your division.
First, before you start, you know you do it, okay, clear out your division before moving up right, um, all right randy.
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