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EPISODE: Episode 1
Join your host Natalie Sugar Brown on the latest episode of “The Sugar Show,” where we delve deep into the pulse-pounding world of Women’s Boxing. Tonight, we’re focusing on the titans of the ring, the newly crowned Welterweight Champion Natasha Jonas, and Savannah Marshalls’ triumphant win over former Undisputed Super Middleweight Champion Franchon Crews.
Expect insightful analysis, deep conversation, and a comprehensive dissection of what these significant victories mean in the world of Women’s Boxing. From the build-up to the fights to the stunning outcomes, we’ll leave no stone unturned. Let’s have a chat about the exhilarating world of boxing that keeps us on our toes and always wanting more.
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[, Music, ]! Thank you! Hey y’all, hey! It’S your sugar here! Okay! So yes, it is that time.
It’S Wednesday y’all, okay, around 7, 30.
y’all know y’all, know sugar gon na, be here.
Okay, it’s a it’s a little bit later than 7 30.
But look look! We’Re here we’re here, my face is in the place and I am Natalie sugar brown, um woman boxer.
This is my platform.
The Natalie sugar brown show where we talk about women’s boxing and what’s going on what been going on what is going on and what we want to be going on.
Okay, so, yes, I am Natalie.
They call me sugar, um, True to this, not new to this.
Okay and I’ve been a woman boxer.
I’Ve been in this industry ever since a long time ago, so I’ve been there, I’ve done it, okay and it, and I know how to break down what you all think that y’all y’all seeing out here um in the news right, because it we speak a different Language in the industry, and so I what I want to do you know with with my platform, what I’ve always wanted to do was give the people the people that support us women Behaving Badly um, give give you guys the real story and help you guys understand The life of a of women, pugilist and and what we’re dealing with what we’re going through so you can um, have an interest, have have the unadulterated interest that you’ve always had in us.
Women who behave badly okay, so tonight’s show is called the baddest bitty on the Block.
Okay and the reason why I you know the the I have my my titles and and I guess it’s just a part of Sugar’s uh Persona now or my humor – is because um you know blood the Block’s getting hot like they say out here in the streets And we want to talk about who the baddest Bitties are on the block out here in in when it comes to these heavy.
With with these bigger broads that are fighting um, okay, somebody chimed it already Tom Smith 1996 says: do you see us [, Music, ] versus Ortiz go in the distance and Tom Smith says oh and hi: okay, um well tom tom smith, 1996.
Thank you for chiming.
In and with your question, I know that you come here to talk boxing okay, but I I want to say this on this platform.
I um it is really exclusively uh.
We we talk about women’s boxing and I’m hoping that you you’ll remain interested in what we may have to talk about tonight.
Now: um, Stanley, honest versus Ortiz, and you talking about going the distance.
Well, I mean: what do you want um with regards to to this fight? Let me see, what’s let me, let me see I’m gon na answer your question, I’m gon na.
Do you better? I’M a really I’m gon na entertain this just for you and see what the odds are Stan yeah so standing on this record.
Okay.
So this boy he’s 14 and all Lithuanian look like he’s, got a good little background and he’s fighting uh, Ortiz, Jr um and he’s a he’s a welterweight.
Let’S see what his so nine by knockout.
Now the thing about it is uh Tom and I I hope, you’ve studied the industry enough to understand this when a fighter gets to or when they’re moving a fighter and just by the numbers, because I haven’t seen this young man fight when they get to something.
Like 14-0, nine Kos and they’re fighting someone like uh Ortiz Jr he’s actually supposed to beat Ortiz JR this ain’t, the test.
This is just to see if he has what it takes to compete in uh.
The next League level, the the next level in in this in the sea of sharks and men’s boxing, so uh, whether it’s a knockout or not.
I don’t I’m this.
Kid.
Has a 14 14-0 uh record with nine Kos, so it looks like five people carried him.
The distance – I don’t know much about Ortiz, let’s see what what um okay well um you come in.
Oh my bad! I wasn’t aware uh standing honest, maybe spelled wrong.
Okay, regardless I found out who I found, who you’re talking about um.
So where was I in this? So it looks like and he’s Lithuanian and you know he he’s got his he.
He ain’t been touched up yet from what I from what I see um and he has a WBA World Welterweight Title.
Okay, so he’s fighting a 19-0 Virgil, Ortiz Junior, damn, but Virgil um Virgil is 19 and no with 19 Kos.
Can you imagine? Okay, let’s see what his his Kos okay, so he’s fighting.
Looking at this man’s record? Okay, he he made he he may be in a little bit.
Scary um, let’s see okay.
So from what I see on the record, I do not think that um, I don’t.
Let’S see if he’s fought guys who have KO records, yeah um, I don’t think uh Stanley, honest is Gon na Knock uh.
This guy out, Ortiz Junior he’s been in there with some good the guy’s numbers that uh Ortiz Jr has fought um.
They have some experience behind them, so if Ortiz was gon na get dropped, rocked or shocked, he would have already.
It would have already happened to him.
So it looks like your boy, uh stanionis uh has something to prove in in this fight with Ortiz Jr um.
It looks like you know he may be in over his head, but it will be interesting because look at his yeah Ortiz rating five stars, I mean it’ll, be very interesting to see um what happened with this kid, because oh wait a minute yeah.
They I mean this is a legit.
I mean this is a pretty good matchup.
The kid is already a world champion.
He already holds a title at um with having only 14 fights, so it looked like um.
Ortiz junior is looking to clip him somehow.
I think the danger might be um for Stanley, honest uh, not Ortiz Junior, so I may keep up with this one just because you’ve opened you’ve.
Helped me open my show with with that question, but I’m Gon na Take It on Back to what the show is about.
Okay, um Tom Smith, um show is uh baddest biddy on the Block and uh.
I’M gon na talk about what happened over the weekend right.
Yeah, I threw a little Shade last weekend and you know it wasn’t the reason why I didn’t hype it up.
So much was because it didn’t seem as hyped over here on our end so um it was uh the the uh, the fight that happened this past weekend was uh franchon Cruise discern the Undisputed a super middleweight champion versus Savannah Marshall, who uh lost her own.
The only belt she did have in her match versus Clarissa Shields and um uh last year sometime.
I think it was sometime in November or something like that.
I mean I may be wrong, but yeah they fought last year.
Time sure does fly.
Doesn’T it too so? Full circle right, Clarissa Shields just fought last month: okay and she uh she really outclassed her opposition in um, uh, Marcela, cornoho and now the contenders who they she’s fought both of these Clarissa Shields and the reason why her name came up is because she’s fought both Of these contenders, she fought well she’s fought both of these champions.
Clarissa Shields fought French on Cruz and her Pro debut and um.
Clarissa Shields fought, uh, Savannah Marshall um thought Savannah Marshall.
Last year, in a women’s boxing Mega Match over there in the UK, now Fran Sean Cruz as time went by franchon Cruz, moved up in the ranks and became the super middleweight champ Undisputed super middleweight champion at 168 pounds.
Okay and she had some contenders French on Cruz, had some people in line for to to get this.
You know to defend all of these because she has all the belts all of those titles, from what I understand, French on called Savannah Marshall out and say: hmm um, you want to fight for my belts and Savannah Marshall took her up on her offer.
Okay, the person who was in line or the talks that were talking That was supposed to be the one to to have fought first um to be franchise.
Next defense was shadesha Green, but the sanction in bodies spoke, and they said no.
We, like uh French, on Cruz versus Savannah Marshall, uh.
We like it better, it looks more expensive and it looks like um one.
You know Savannah Marshall, if anything will bring us some money into our sanctioning body uh, if, if she does indeed win so Inked and the fight was on okay, now uh Camp had happened and it seemed as though franchon Cruz and Clarissa Shields came together in Camp To prepare for their fights, Clarissa’s Shields Was preparing for her fight with Marcela cornoho uh.
Initially, it was supposed to be Hannah Gabrielle, but Hannah um didn’t put the gloves on when she was rubbing down her dog and supposedly the uh, the steroids from the medicine, the dog’s medicine got into her bloodstream and she came up that she was riding dirty into This fight, so she got got caught for Peds performance enhancement, drugs and she lost her opportunity to fight uh Clarissa Shields.
Hannah Gabriel had she had a story because everybody has a story behind fighting Clarissa Shields, T-Rex and Hannah Gabrielle’s story is she’s.
The only fighter she’s the only woman to have ever put the guat Clarissa Shields self-proclaimed greatest woman of all time on her ass in that ring.
Okay, so she dropped Clarissa, now Clarissa put her mouthpiece in and got up and and and got the cooking in that.
Damn kitchen and served Hannah Gabrielle up uh a defeat right, but, needless to say, have a Hannah.
Gabrielle came home or left that fight with Clarissa shields’s number.
Yes, I got your ass.
I put you on that canvas.
I made you drop [, __ ] and that’s my story and I’m sticking to it right and we all saw it so uh Clarissa Shields now comes back to avenge that you know that bit of that bit of discomfort or that blemish in her Legacy all right.
So it didn’t happen and so Marcella cornoho was the replacement and Clarissa Shields handedly um outclassed her in in their recent fight in getting ready, that’s the backstory and now getting ready, franchon Cruz joined Clarissa shields in her camp.
They both prepared Clarissa Shields and fresh on cruise go way back to amateurs where I believe they have fought each other in amateurs as well, but they seem to be um friends also so Clarissa Shields is very because she fought uh Savannah Marshall, and I, I believe, Um friend, Sean Cruz fought some Savannah Marshall.
Also in the amateurs.
Uh was very confident.
Both ladies Clarissa and uh French are very confident that they was going um very confident that Fran Sean could do what Clarissa did to Savannah Marshall and defeat her in her own country, yeah right man, because everybody’s doing it get in there right so um.
It seemed like everybody [, Music ], I mean the the odds, were, I think, um three three to one or something like that that um Savannah Marshall was going to win over Fran Sean Cruz, because I mean everyone just for the most part.
Everyone saw that Savannah Marshall had the advantages just like she had the advantages when she fought Clarissa Shields, but I watched a couple of their press conferences or pre-fight press conferences and Savannah Marshall said this to Fran Sean Cruz.
You are not a Clarissa Shields and I’m gon na beat you right, which proved to be exactly what the story is, and I I totally agreed right.
I’M branch on cruise.
I I always say this style fights and Fran Sean Cruz’s style was always more uh archaic.
Like more rugged than the other contenders that have come through the amateur ranks, though French on Cruz, has a a great background as an elite level.
Amateur boxer she does not perform in the ring where she does not fight with the refinement of skills, as you would expect an elite amateur an elite fighter with uh extended amateur background would have um, but Styles make fights right and she was comfortable with that and She had success in that type of fight.
It took her to the super middleweight class where she became the Undisputed Champion um, but I would you know I want to say this: okay and no shade here.
It’S just the truth.
When I started noticing was because um certain weight classes, uh had a concentration of contenders, and you know it they they had.
There was some real legitimate contenders in some of these weight classes.
A lot of these women a lot of broads Crohn’s.
You know a lot of them jump out of the weight class and go into what I would call what I call a zombie weight class.
Now the zombie weight class is half dead, okay or dead, meaning that the opposition is little to no opposition in that weight.
Class right um, if there is anyone in that weight class, they they are not um highly sorted or highly uh, not highly, but they they’re not con.
They are not contenders, even though they hold that belt.
The champion may not be as um strong or dangerous as they would be in the more concentrated weight classes right.
So after Clarissa Shield left from 168.
, the division became dead.
Okay – and there was no one rallying for that – because everyone is moving with the money – everyone either wanted to fight Clarissa Shields or Katie Taylor.
Okay, those were the the gals right.
That’S that’s! Who was moving the money so um in doing that opportunities open for women to now, um speak with or or you know, get these sanctioning bodies to uh allow them to have these titles, where they probably are not paying as much as they would in the more Concentrated weight classes to hold on to those belts.
Please check out my my show belts and bodies right where I explain to you that um, it’s not about who’s the best with sanctioning bodies.
It’S okay, you’ve got to be good, but you also got to be able to pay uh for these belts pay to hold these belts right.
You got the money all right, honey right, but if you don’t have the money or if another Honey comes along, that can pay the sanction and body more money.
You lose your seat.
Okay, so that’s that’s pretty much how it goes right.
So I’m not sure how long the show is going to be tonight, depending on who chimes in like subscribe and share and y’all see my QR code right.
There give it give your girl some support, okay, um, but where I was going with, that is um those girls fought.
You now have the back story: okay and then we’re gon na go into the other.
Ladies, that fought on the card.
Natasha Jonas versus candy.
Wyatt.
Now uh, like I said you know this, this, these ballots weren’t getting no play.
Okay, Natasha Jonas was going to was supposed to defend her Junior middleweight, okay, title titles against a contender in that Division, and there were no contenders in that Vision.
Division right that she she would defend against I mean I know there is there’s Terry Harper, there’s uh, Cecilia break us.
There’S yeah, there’s some good names, but maybe you know um.
Maybe something went on in the negotiations or something like that.
I mean there’s always something where Natasha wasn’t able to defend those Junior middleweight Bells, so she had to find a way to fight and make some money.
So she went down and fought a fighter named candy Wyatt for the vacant um.
What was it what’s about for? For the for one of the vacant, I think it’s ibf, the I vacant ibf middleweight um, sorry, the vacant ibf Welterweight Title now that one is interesting because there was an Undisputed Welterweight Champion up to a couple.
You know some months ago, early on in the year.
All right, so what happened to that? So it looks like that champion that uh, because that give you the background on the Welterweight Title, the Welterweight Title was held by Cecilia bregas for like 10 plus daggone years, almost 20 years by the one, broad, Cecilia bracus, okay.
She had all of them all the belts right, so I mean it was just it.
It was just uh compulsory right like it.
You you just knew.
Cecilia barakas versus a Cecilia records versus b c d, Cecilia brackets, was going to win because, first of all, Cecilia breckus was like you know: um uh, I guess the Great Value version of Laila Ali right.
She, she kind of looked like her.
She kind of you know, so they were like sporting her that way over there in Europe and Cecilia Brock is um fought some great contenders, but because women’s boxing wasn’t as popular as it is now, she was able to get away with a lot a lot.
A lot of robbery decisions until uh, Jessica, mccaskill comes on the scene and Jessica mccaskill ends up defeating Cecilia Breakers after all those years and taking all of her belts right and you know, I think the fights out there watch it.
I always say this: I mean that’s actually one of the fights that I just know um both fights, I just know, Cecilia brackets, won like she wants.
She actually won those two, those two fights and um the the irony that she lost her belts, um in in fights that she actually won was just to me, was just boxing karma for real for real for real, so that story brings us to now right.
So uh Jessica mccaskill had the Undisputed Welterweight Title after moving up from um, I believe, 135.
I thought I went down and fought her around at 134 135 outside of my weight class, and then she ended up moving up.
She fought Katie Taylor after she fought me and then she moved up again and fought Cecilia brancas, so it looked like she had gotten.
She has some money behind her and the sanctioning bodies.
Uh took advantage of the fact that, okay, this new bra she’s gon na pay the bill.
Well guess what after uh, maybe almost a year or a little over a year of uh, Jessica, mccaskill having all the belts, it seemed now that she wasn’t bringing in the crowd that um she would need to pay for all of those to keep all of those Belts so um that uh and in doing that she was, she was uh defending those titles against mediocre opposition.
So you know, is she she just wasn’t making no money on the belts um in the ring? Okay, she she did a lot of stuff outside of the ring, but in the ring she wasn’t bringing in the the money um – and she also she she had her style was very uh on her stylist is, is not refined because she didn’t have much of an Am I don’t think she had an amateur background or not much so um she’s not very entertaining to watch to most people right um, but I say Styles make fights a lot.
Some people appreciate Jessica, mccaskill’s Style brings us now to um another part of why uh boxing is.
Is I just always say that boxing is a karmatic sport, because uh Jessica mccaskill did a lot of things her and her people did a lot of things behind the scenes to um and I would say, uh, you know just just if, if you’re honest in the Game, you wouldn’t do a lot of the things that her and her team has done in order to get to where they uh, where she ended up and [ Music ] um.
What happened is she ended up uh taking on us taking on something that was um? More than she could handle right so when she moved up she’s she’s, moving that up from 135 pounds up to 147 pounds.
Now the difference is you: can you can um you can draw somebody down.
You can suck somebody down uh to where they’re not as strong as they are.
They would normally be so you can beat them in the lower weight classes.
But now, when you step up to the higher weight classes, you don’t have the you, don’t you don’t have that game anymore to play.
You got to be able to stand in there with these big broads and when you stand in there with a big broad, you got to know how to fight you just got ta know how to fight right when you, when you, when you stepping up David versus Goliath, that’s one of the oldest stories right.
That’S a um uh by Christian Bible story.
Right Goliath was huge, but David knew how to use his tool right and use.
It accurately was able to get the the Giant in the weak spot and put him down well when you, when you know when, when your people pay your way and you do Shenanigans to get where, where you going and now you got ta, you got ta stay In the ring and you got ta fight and you got to know what you’re doing in there and you don’t because you didn’t earn it, you start feeling it and that’s what happened.
So I just know.
I just know this right because karma’s a [, __ ] – and I I just I I know I I’ve been a fighter long enough when you get to when you fight at those weights at 147, now you’re fighting against women who are coming down from 170.
175.
160 you’re you’re fighting with women that are making that weight that are that are coming down to make that weight right.
So if you’re moving up and you you don’t know how to fight and you you don’t know how to manage against a bigger, stronger person.
You’Re not gon na last okay.
So what happened was in all of these defenses, even though that they were kind of mediocre, mccaskill was feeling them hands from them.
Big girls – and I know she ran back to her team and she was like.
I can’t do it.
No more, they hit this too much they’re too big they’re too straight.
It hurts now.
I’Ve got a fight in there and it’s and I don’t know how right and so um I think she met she.
She came out with an announcement.
You know.
Fighting at 147 is too easy, so I’m gon na go down to 140.
yeah and take those belts, but she didn’t know a real killer was coming up in the division.
The real killer and I’ma say this right is one of the real killers out.
Here is uh Chantelle Cameron, yeah, so Chantelle Cameron.
After being in um, there was a welterweight tournament, and, just being you know, trying to find her way through the the industry and and and get herself in the place where she is now um.
She was able to have the opportunity to take the opportunity to fight Jessica mccaskill for the 100 for the Undisputed 140 uh pound title, the junior Welterweight Title, where you know she, she handed mccaskill her booty on a platter yeah, so she mccaskill got beat up and Then disappeared after that we ain’t seen her since, like she has not fought since who knows.
What’S gon na happen, um we were waiting out here in women’s boxing verse in the women’s boxing verse to see if the sanction and bodies were going to um follow their own rules and strip her of her title because she came down from 147 to chat to Challenge a contender for all for for those same titles in another way in a lesser weight division.
Would you do that as a fighter? You relinquish all of your titles to do so so in women.
In the women’s boxing verse, we were waiting to see if the sanctioning bodies was going uh, let Jessica mccaskill crawl back up to where she was and keep those belts or um snatch them up and make them available for other contenders that are at 147.
That can manage okay.
So that’s a backstory on that.
On that now we talk about the baddest bidding on okay, so um lovely assistant.
We can start the slideshow now, I’m a bit sometime and y’all, see me like Herky jerky, I’m doing the show outside today, and these mosquitoes are tearing my ass sucked we’re off at come on.
Do the QR code for your girl, so she can get some off yeah be nice to me.
So this is the this is the poster that they were selling.
Oh, my gosh.
Okay, we’re having a conversation about how these people put this.
This show together, like this, looked like something from from Thriller right, Michael Jackson, you know Michael Jackson came on one of my shows.
He was talking about Summit, it wasn’t about the Thriller and I don’t think it’s the Michael Jackson that I know that I, like Michael, that Michael Jackson he’d been gone for a while, but um this poster just made them look like it’s close to midnight like they Look like some real goons and goblins on here, and these ladies are beautiful.
Ladies, oh, while you tell you why you take my picture off, lovely assistant um bring back my poster, please so in um and while my lovely assistant tries to tries to come back with the poster um okay.
Here we go we’re back again um for you guys.
I I’m maybe saying something different from you.
Guys are seeing it, but you know it’s all about selling these women who behave badly and um.
You know this jailhouse zombie [ __, ] right here it to me it just wasn’t cutting it now.
I saw other nicer images out there, but this was like this is showing fight week right.
So you know they had the open, workout, the press conference, the the weigh-in and then fight night right um.
Would this get the average person interested in seeing what these? Ladies? Are about or making me want to see them behave badly.
May you know in in in a kind of um dark way.
You know like it’s.
It’S too dark.
You know at this show, I’m not sure it just looks so jailhouse to me right, but it is what it is and it already happened.
I don’t know what the numbers were on this fight.
The fighter on the far left.
Um uh is franchon Cruz, okay, she’s from the U.
S she’s, always rallied at middleweight super middleweight, okay, and that’s who I was talking about with the back story and then the uh broad right here to my immediate uh left is chant uh.
Not Shanta is uh Savannah Marshall, Savannah Marshall is from the UK, she was an elite amateur uh and she was she she’s uh, a very known, Contender, uh for in in the middleweight division or as a middleweight, because she’s fought the um, the guat in the amateurs And the pros – and so I think, franchon Cruz and holding on to her in in attempting to hold on to her belts.
She wanted to bring in that type of crowd.
So she can make the money to pay for the belts that she had, because for a friend Sean, I I don’t see where her purse is was um, where it would make sense for her purse purse wise previously to be able to afford being an Undisputed uh World champion, because the belts, how much those belts cost per quarter adds up okay, so I see where she was making a business decision and calling out Savannah Marshall, but what it was.
What what had happened was she did she bit off more than she could chew? Where she thought somehow and somehow Clarissa must have talked her into it to say you can beat her.
You beat her in the amateurs you could beat her, but amateur ain’t the same as Pro amateur is not the same as Pro apples and oranges.
They all fruit, but they way different.
Okay in Pros you’ve got to beat somebody up and down right.
The referee is not going stop right and then they’re not going.
You know the you’re, not you don’t have no headgear on.
You don’t have the rubber gloves that bounce off.
If you hit hard, you know, the safety element is really not there right.
The the only safety that has been uh kept in the whole thing is the two minutes: okay um.
Oh, we got somebody else that chimed in Cali fire salute B, dot b, all right, hey baby um and gave me the boxing glove with the flames.
So you know what we’re talking about tonight then uh Cali fire.
I hope you know we talking about the the the fight, the big fight that happened this past weekend between these these broads here that I’m talking about franchise, Cruz versus Savannah Marshall and Natasha Jones is down there to my far left versus candy Wyatt.
To my immediate left right here, okay now um hoping you I mean, let let me know what you think or if you have any questions, please ask you: don’t have to be a smarty pants right um.
I just want you to be interested.
That’S all! That’S all! That’S all um, so um getting back to what I was saying so in the pros.
Now it’s very hard, if you and they’re starting to learn this now, which is good.
I think this is the cream rising to that top bring my picture.
Listen lovely assistant like because I’m not seeing the picture the cream is rising to the to the top right.
Where now you can’t just it’s not enough that you just hit hard right, it’s not enough that you’re! Just fast! It’S not enough that you’re! You know you can you’re putting punches together.
You have to do all of that right.
You got ta, do all of that.
[ __ ] at the same time now, and you have to do it well and you got to have a plan and a strategy behind it right.
That’S what I’m seeing now.
I see that you have to now be the cream rising to the top right so because these now these names and these popular girls who uh found a way to Razzle, Dazzle The Audience by doing whatever it else they’ve been doing, except for fighting now they got Ta fight now they’re being upsetted now they’re.
Now they ass is being really whooped and they’re and there’s accountability, because now they’re losing right now, they’re losing so um.
I think Fran Sean Cruz came in with with the idea that she’s French on Cruz and she would be able to somehow you know, stay in it long enough to get a decision if anything over um, Savannah Marshall think about it is Savannah.
Marshall is a big, broad, okay, she’s, a big Broad, meaning she’s tall, and she has she has the size.
So when you’re hitting like when you’re fighting a person like that and Savannah Marshall does know how to box a little bit: okay, um when you’re finding somebody like that, you have to have a strategy, you can’t just go in there.
You cannot just go in there and think I’ma beat this tree down right.
You have to have a plan right because she’s literally a a wall a tree coming at you.
Let’S see somebody chimed in women’s Boxing Channel: okay, hey thanks for coming thanks for chiming.
In all women’s Boxing Channel, says: hi all sorry, I’m late we’ll have to catch the loss, catch the Lost bits up tomorrow.
Well, women’s Boxing Channel, it was really all about the Lost [.
__ ] was about me giving a bit of background about the fight that happened over the weekend, and I know you saw it.
I know you saw it right.
I know you saw both of the both ladies fight right um because it was over there where you at in the in the UK um, and I hope you had well, I think, a while back I’ve never um I’ve.
It’S never left my mind.
You were eating something called something glory and it was like fruits and whipped cream and all that good stuff.
I I never heard of the name of that dish again or that dessert again, but I’ve always meant to to ask you when you came back um what it was called.
So I can make it for myself over here where I’m at, because I always think about it anyway.
I I always kind of imagine you eating that dessert.
While you watch us women behave badly, I don’t know why it’s just a thing that I do in my mind with you.
Women’S Boxing Channel anyway, conversation about um thought, we’d um, but that didn’t happen right and then um going in Knickerbocker Glory.
Was it Knickerbocker Glory? Lord okay, I’ma look it up because you said it was like some fruits and raspberries and all that with whipped cream and it was um yeah and then Natasha Jonas right, Natasha Jonas went down and Wade and and and picked up a Welterweight Title.
Um fighting candy, Wyatt right uh and from what I see the the 147 division did turn into a zombie division.
Uh.
You know there.
There was no one in there in the first place.
I I just think that mccaskill couldn’t withstand the you know the the beatings that she would have to go through in order to keep her titles in that Division and she wasn’t bringing in enough money to pay for those belts in that division.
So you know it was just a bad business decision for her and her team, and then you know her ass can’t go down low because um there’s now real Fighters down there that she will have to fight right, so she’s kind of stuck where she is right.
Now, um, where you know she can do a lot out, she’s been doing a lot of stuff outside of the Ring women’s Boxing Channel says it’s an ice cream with fruit and cream.
Okay, see Knickerbocker Glory, okay, um, so yeah, I think she’s.
I think she’s on the back burner for a little bit, but let’s talk about so we going back to talking about these two now, let’s talk about this fight, okay, um lovely assistant: let’s go on to the next pictures, I’m doing I’m gon na talk about it.
While these, as the pictures come up right, okay, so there goes the the diva, the heavy hitting Diva uh versus, I mean standing beside Savannah Marshall, okay and they both look just gorgeous right here.
I think this is a better picture.
This sells it better um, and I think this is one of the you know the the pre-fight events that um people were seeing that okay sizing these two up, seeing that seeing if there’s any beef seeing you know how they interact and from you know what I Was getting from the interactions was you know as much as friend? Sean is the Diva, and I’m so glad to be here, and you know she she’s fought through so much adversity to get to where she is.
You know, on the other end of the you know, on the other side of the blade she’s on some and and [ __ ] imma do this to you and yeah I’ma beat your ass and this and this and this and this – and you know like that – That really Hood stuff right.
You can’t be both right.
You can’t be a diva and a hood [ __ ] at the same time right One’s Gon na overpower the other.
You can’t be it at the same time and I think that French Sean should have been more diva with this one right with her perform with, with her out of the ring Shenanigans leading up to the fight she had.
So she she had so much opportunity to be that, but you know she you know where I am.
You know.
Look at me.
I you know where I’m coming from and I didn’t come here to lose right.
She had came in on some Elton John [, __ ].
You know what I’m saying, because you know he he he he one of the biggest Divas on you know like.
If she had came, you know Bogan and and doing what real Divas do she would.
I think she would have gotten a lot more leverage and a lot more energy coming to her.
With regards to um goodness my it’s getting dark out here, my lights, ain’t.
Coming on, okay, I thought I was going.
You know just it’s the summertime.
You know sugar sugar does a couple shows she want to do a couple of shows um outside when this um winter weather warms up right.
So you know I just took that.
I thought I was going to take advantage of that tonight.
So if it gets too dark, my apologies, but you know I just think she should have.
She could have been more marketable.
She could have opened up more opportunities for herself and being more of a diva than you know that that other side that she showed uh great outfits um.
You know she’s very risque, so you know she’s she’s not afraid to come out with you know the uh.
She you know with the lunch box on her head and she will just she will.
She will work it.
She will work it right and I think that’s probably what she should.
She should have done more of right.
She does clothing um.
If she had a clothing line, she could have come out in her outfit in her outfits and things like that.
Um she sang the national anthem before the before the fight yeah.
I don’t think any other fighter has ever done that, where they’ve sung their own national anthem before they got in the ring and fought so I mean to me, she was doing she was doing a lot more than she should have in the wrong like in in.
In in in ways that worked against her right um, I think she should have been focused more on what you know when she came here.
What she went there to do, which is wow the audience right.
Her style is wow right because it’s like wow isn’t she’s, not a clean fighter.
It’S like whoa wow.
She throws from the hip and she fights like you, know she’s in Walmart parking lot.
But I’m not saying this with shade.
I’M saying this is: there’s an entertainment quality to that right to see a diva somebody who’s.
So you know um it it’s just so fashionable and so um edgy.
You know she’s standing out like that to get behaved badly and look like you know, get down and dirty like she’s fighting in the damn grocery store parking lot.
Okay, that’s good contrast, but play one up more, so the other one looks better right because you know you’re about to look ugly in the ring.
You know that right.
That’S where I was that’s what I was saying women’s Boxing Channel says LOL is so true.
Franchon has balls enough to be completely herself love it.
Women’S Boxing Channel also says she’s number 19 in the UK pop charts.
Okay, so you know she, she got a song out and everything right so be if she was I’m just gon na I’m just gon na say it this way, I don’t give a [ __ ].
If you have a song on the freaking pop charts, because [ __ ], I didn’t sign up to watch American Idol because when you was on American Idol Simon said no, I came to see you behave badly.
I want to see you come here and behave badly.
I want you to come here, beat on a [, __ ].
I want to see you come here and bust, a [ __ ] up because I know you can franchon.
I know you can right.
I want to see that contrast right.
I don’t want.
I don’t care, I don’t care about your your pop chart song.
I don’t care about your outfit right.
I do admire the fact that you have tried so hard and have worked at everything you’ve done in life to come to this place.
I do love your story.
French on cruise, I love the fact that you’re honoring your mother in doing this, who, who had passed away um, I don’t think you were completely being yourself like women’s Boxing Channel, says um coming in.
I think you were trying to.
I think you were trying to do more than you have right.
You you’re trying to do more right, like after you behave badly and after you do all of that.
Then you know regardless.
Then you could say y’all know I got a song out right.
Y’All know.
I got this out right: you’re you’re, like you’re selling everything else.
Besides the fact that I’m gon na I’m gon na perform and I’m gon na.
If I don’t win, I’m gon na bust Savannah Marshall ass up in the ring here in the UK, and then I’m gon na Vogue, my ass out of here, and go and go party somewhere like the diva.
I am I’m gon na have an Entourage of Divas walk me in this [ __ ] and we go on catwalk and sachet to the ring like Diva [, __ ].
That’S that’s right! If you’re gon na do that, that’s what I wanted to see if you were, if, if you the D, if you’re a diva – and that is just you – that’s what we would have seen right, I think it’s more of a gimmick of your talents and you’re a Very talented woman, but we learn as we grow in this industry right, and I think this was a big lesson to Fran Sean Cruz.
Where uh, you know uh, you may you may be hungry, but it’s still possible to bite off more than you can chew.
Okay, so um in this.
With this I think Savannah Marshall.
I mean full circle right, Savannah Marshall.
She gave it a good college, try to with with um Clarissa Shields, but Clarissa Shields.
She came, you know, Clarissa Shields came with it.
Clarissa Shields has a a great boxing IQ, so Carissa Shields had a plan when she got in there.
She knew all of Savannah Marshall’s um advantages and she made a plan around it to win, and then she had the heart to finish.
Um women’s Boxing Channel says I see what you’re saying about Fran Sean but she’s always been like this Diva doing her diving on Diva Street um.
It’S just an entertainment thing.
She does maybe that’s what I’m saying right.
If you a real diva, I know some real Divas trust me um, Stephanie Jaramillo was um was boxing to me the first one of the first Divas I ever saw in uh boxing in women’s boxing, and I and Stephanie Jaramillo um way way way back in the Day fighter right, she’s she’s, young she’s young, but she started this like she, her father built a she’s from Albuquerque New.
I think New Mexico she’s from New Mexico.
She was one of the um Fighters that um I I came into boxing.
I was young as well, but she was younger than me.
I think she was like 16 years old, 15 or 16 years old doing it and she showed up.
She was a diva.
She showed up in um, leopard print pajamas to the weigh-in.
You know like she was doing [ __ ], like that she had her own.
She, she had a a female, a strength and conditioning coach that followed her everywhere and her mother, like she, she was just.
She was a real Diva right and and went in the ring and and and behaved badly.
She she was up there.
She she fought the best of them right and then she turned Pro uh.
I think she was one of the.
She was one of these other women who actually got a contract or got signed by Don King, but she didn’t follow through with the contract with Don King.
But yes, Stephanie Jaramillo, look her up um she’s still around.
I think she does some acting um, but yeah that she was.
She was a diva and you could tell, and it was just effortless, she wasn’t wearing costumes or anything like that or trying to get your attention.
Like.
Look at me.
Look at me.
Look at what I got on.
Look look.
Look look at.
Look at my outfit.
Look at my look at my glasses.
You know she was just a diva in you know.
Oh this is just me.
I’M leopard yeah leopard pajamas.
Yes, like what else would you show up at the way in wearing? You know she was that way when um, she she wore makeup.
You know she she always had.
She was just deepament, um and – and you know she that had a bit of an influence on me as well, because I’m like wow, she she makes sure she she makes sure that um she she makes sure that she Embraces this side of herself.
She has the confidence to do that and she Embraces this side of herself as well as she goes that she she’s a real she’s, a real boxer and there she goes in the ring and she win or lose.
She gives it all.
She’S got right.
I think, like I said you know French on, may need to own this divaness a little like own it a little more.
It’S not for entertainment, it’s not for being a celebrity.
It’S for you know who are who are you in your heart and soul? I don’t see I I don’t see a diva right.
I see someone who who has many talents right and I see someone who has faced a lot of adversity um and has a good story, but I don’t, I don’t think she’s a diva right, you’re, not gon na force that on on on me, neither right um.
This now will show I mean this this will this lesson that she’s she’s going to go through now, because she’s lost all her belts right and um she’s saying oh, I’m gon na.
Be me, regardless of if I have these belts or not I’m saying this um goodness, and I don’t know where I know what sorry you guys just give me just give me a minute I’ll, be back.
Let me get my lights on.
Thank you, foreign.
Oh, my goodness, sorry y’all, we just gon na, have to make it work with what we got, because my Delights ain’t, the lights ain’t coming on for me, okay, so um I mean that and and no shade, like I, I really I’ll, tell y’all when shade is Meant but there’s no shade there.
I think you know uh with the or with these young rods.
Now it’s more so they’re they had what they’re doing is they’re finding out that this [ __ ] ain’t as simple as we made it look right, the the older us older ones that you know have have kind of phased out right um! It’S not easy! It’S not easy growing up in this.
It’S not easy becoming a woman in this.
It’S not easy.
Having relationships, it’s not easy, losing what you have.
You know everything that you do affects your value and it’s hard right, so she’s gon na she’s gon na learn what that feels like right because and um.
You think ain’t nothing going to change because you lost all your belts huh.
Where have you been all this time because it ain’t been in the boxing industry because that’s in the in the boxing industry you only as good – and this is with everybody you’re only as good as your last fight yeah people who you thought was rocking with you.
You see them, you know they on some next stuff.
Immediately after you have a bad uh night.
That’S how that goes right.
So with time.
You know we learn.
We we end up where we’re supposed to be, and it looks like uh Savannah Marshall ended up where she was supposed to be right.
She was supposed to indeed be a champion and she turned out to I mean without calling anybody out or without chasing anybody down.
She ended up winning all the belts the very next year.
You know, after her going after um the belts that she had um, I mean the the best that she was fighting Clarissa shields for right, you’re, not crazy.
I mean Karma right, so um lovely assistant.
Let’S go on to the next um: let’s go on to the next image: we’re going to talk about okay! So let’s talk about this Jonas Natasha Jonas versus candy, Wyatt, okay, now Natasha Jonas um.
She was supposed to actually be in line also to fight Clarissa shields.
In like a a catch weight match, but Clarissa Shields leaked that Natasha Jonas was asking for too much money, and so that’s why the fight didn’t happen, and so Natasha Jonas is where she is and she’s like um.
I think she knows um and she understands because she has she lost her belt.
She she she did.
She did fall from grace very early on in her career, where she got knocked out um by I forgot what that young, what the lady’s name is.
She got herself into trouble, messed around and uh.
You know somehow murdered her husband, but she I mean she was supposed to Natasha Jonas – was supposed to walk through this Contender Challenger and and end up getting knocked the [ __ ] out by her right.
But that’s boxing especially women’s boxing and everyone has a Fighting Chance.
Don’T they right so I mean that’s what it is.
Um women’s Boxing Channel comes in and says I normally argue that it’s lame to see a fighter getting an Undisputed chance straight after coming off a loss, but well you know it is lame, but women’s Boxing Channel.
You know that franchon is the one that called um called out.
Savannah Marshall.
You know that right, um, yeah, Savannah Marshall was was off the grid.
I don’t even think she she had any plans and then this came right, so franchon stepped to her and she was like.
Oh okay, [, __ ].
You thought it would you think I’m easy! Okay, you finna learn time and place right and she trained and she got ready.
She got ready and she ended up prepared and getting all the belts and that’s something women’s Boxing Channel says because um he, but I think you meant she lost to Shields.
I think it’s a different argument.
Yes, and so the thing is and tell me what kind of argument you think it is right because um, okay – and this is why I say this – is women’s boxing y’all – can’t write some.
You can’t write a fighter off because she she lost against another fighter right because some Fighters have on you know some Fighters just have another Fighter’s number or it just may have not been her night right.
So you can’t write a a fighter op.
You just got ta like the broad enough to to know that okay she’s gon na come back, and you know I like her because there’s something about when she behaves badly right.
Um, you know.
Clarissa Shields, like I said, [ __, ] Clarissa Shields to me, is just arguably maybe I mean Clarissa Shields.
She she’s going through stuff now and they might be able to.
She might be able to get caught up enough to get caught off guard right now.
I think she should kind of um think about what she’s doing right now, because she she said that she will fight Savannah Marshall at any weight and that she would beat her well, I mean you’re the champ right so to me, if I’m the champ, I’m still Gon na make it hard for you, I’m gon na make it very hard for you right.
So I mean I I wouldn’t say.
Oh I didn’t at any weight, I would say um, you know, add a catch weight.
We can fight, but I’m not gon na fight.
Her at 168 pounds, then she said she was going knock.
I I think she even mentioned that she was gon na knock Savannah Marshall out girl.
You could knock Marcella cornhole out How You Gon na Knock Out Savannah Marshall.
You know like she’s, saying these things and I don’t think I don’t think um she has.
I don’t think she has the guidance in her corner to give her the um to give her the mentorship of where she actually is in her career right.
She I mean sweetie, you’ve done it all literally you’ve done it all.
Relax right, relax make him come, find you right.
She flew over there screaming at the people were talking about how she was screaming at the side of the ring for franchon.
Even though franchon was getting beat from pole to pole, relax right, let them come get you you’re, you’re way ahead.
You’Re way, ahead of the race right, we see you relax, um women’s Boxing Channel says losing to Shields.
Is the exception to the rule? For me Shields? Is that good and I really don’t think coming off a loss to her is like any other loss in boxing? Well, you know, Clarissa Shields is Clarissa Shields.
This is where we need more.
We like we, we just need more.
We need more people that are are looking at boxing for what it is right.
Clarissa Shields is not King Kong karisha Shields is beatable.
She is okay.
She’S ahead of the game, because everyone’s coming at her like gangbusters right and no one’s really trying to focus on the contenders that have the potential to be a problem for Clarissa Shields.
That’S what it is right and it you know, Clarissa Shields may have you know.
Gamed herself out right because when you become when you’re, so when you’re, when you’re up here and everyone’s kind of everyone’s here right who’s gon na fight you, how are you gon na? How are you gon na make money fighting? What are you gon na do now? You have to wait for people to catch up to you right.
So if she had fought relaxed, fought again, relax talk, [, __, ] talk, [, __, ] fought again relaxed.
Then she would have.
She would have been able to keep it at a place where she moves the money, but it’s it’s.
It’S just a lot who I mean she.
She fought at Little Caesars Arena, which was great, but who else is she gon na fight to and pack that Arena up? Who else is she gon na fight? Who, who Savannah Marshall again, you know like she should be happy that Savannah Marshall won this this match, because now she gets a chance to have another big payday right, because at the end of the day you know we’re doing this for the money.
It’S it’s a business right.
It’S a business, um women’s Boxing Channel comes in and says even Chantelle Cameron is an exceptional fighter, but Shields is way in front and way in front for me right so yeah Clarissa Shields is ahead of the game.
She’S a high achiever.
She is not, you know: she’s she’s, not Jesus, mother, Mary, you know what I’m saying and she you know: she’s she’s, a human being she’s a fighter.
She’S she’s done a lot, but that doesn’t mean that someone else can’t come along and beat her.
She has a she has a high IQ in in this game, but she has other weaknesses that no one wants to.
No one is is trying to exploit.
No, no one is trying is trying to see right because they’re, so everyone’s so focused on on what the obvious right be: subtle, subtlety, right, um women’s Boston Channel, says shadeja green next for Marshall.
We won’t talk about that.
But let’s talk about this Jonas Wyatt, real quick, because to me the fight was the the fight was boring yeah.
I said it right this Natasha Jonas versus can I mean who, who is candy, Wyatt right, a high-end loser and I’m not saying it to diss her but candy.
You know what you is, because I don’t when was candy Wyatt uh somebody.
I think I remember too, when I was in Canada.
Um candy Wyatt had a promoter, but I didn’t I did not candy Wyatt fought in over there in in, like the um, you know way out.
Well, you know in in the sticks, area of Canada right.
Canada is a huge country, I forgot where um, where she actually is at, but she had a promoter over there.
Okay, I didn’t, but I was willing to fight her.
But what happened? What had happened was they said: candy Wyatt, I was gon na fight her.
We were gon na fight at 140.
.
What had happened? Was it kind? It got back to me.
They say sugar, you know, Candy Wyatt never comes in at 140.
, Candy Wyatt comes in at 147 and they what they say when you go.
There is take the fight or leave it and people end up taking the fight.
You know I’m preparing at 140.
, she comes in at 147.
and and she has the promoter right.
So this is what the hell she get.
This is why my foot’s on her neck – and this is why I I said what I said what I said about candy Wyatt right.
This is this is what you worked the whole time for now.
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