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Hi there welcome once again to another exciting edition of neil the deal on talk and fight available on talkandfight.
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I hear you’ve got a great boxer profile lined up for us tonight.
Neil is that right.
Am i told correctly hey how you doing graham thanks a lot for having me out again great thanks, yeah we’re talking thanks a lot buddy we’re uh we’re going to be talking about uh, one of the old-timers, one of the classic, great guys, uh, gentlemen, humanitarian type.
Guy right down my alley and uh, so we’re gon na talk a little bit about him, but first off guys, i’d like to say to all you fans talking fight fans, the neil the deal show fans.
Thank you very much as usual for the likes.
The shares.
The comments all the great stuff the subscriptions have been coming in left right and center, we’re on fire we’re cooking with hydrogen, so uh, let’s get her going tonight, we’re going to talk a little bit graham about that guy.
I was just mentioning uh and it’s going to be guys tonight we’re going to talk about joe lewis, joe lewis uh.
He was uh one of the all-time greatest fighters of all time.
I believe guys like ali and uh, foreman and fraser, and all these guys he was like the original uh he’s like the jackie robinson of of boxing.
You know what i’m saying guys.
So he broke the barrier pretty much uh single-handedly for that one.
So uh joe, we love you, man always remembered god bless you buddy um.
So let’s just talk a little bit about joan a little bit about joe’s career.
He had an amateur career and then a little bit about his retirement, as we always do on the neil.
The deal show so again guys thanks a lot two thumbs up and guess who won the game.
Yesterday, yeah, i told you, i told you pretty soon we’re gon na have talking bet and i’m gon na teach you guys how to win money.
So not only you come to the show, but i teach you how to win money.
So it’s pretty good, so we’re gon na we’re gon na talk to the producers about that.
Eventually, we’ll see how we do kind of like jimmy the greek.
You know what i mean, you know, look him up jimmy the greek.
He was awesome way in the 70s, unbelievable so anyways.
I was a kid loved him all right.
So we’re going to talk about joe joe lewis.
Tonight his nickname was the brown bomber.
He was the brown bomber, everybody knew who he was.
He was born joseph lewis, barrow on may 13, 1914 in chambers, county alabama, united states of america, so he’s a u.
s man and uh.
He was a real good one guys he in in his era.
There was probably nobody even close to him um at the end of his career.
He did fade as they all do.
He kind of hung on a little bit too long, maybe, but he loved the sport and um.
You know he gave it his all in every fight.
I’Ve watched, probably 30 of his fights um and he’s he’s unbelievably skilled, uh, unbelievable the ring savvy the footwork, the combination punching the body punching the counter punching.
He had it all that guy.
So i’m sure a lot of the guys that are out there um, even the retired, guys now older, guys that were watching when they were children were watching this guy because he was he’s actually the icon of the sport probably he’s one of them.
That’S for sure.
Right up there, with ali so uh, he competed from 1934 to 1951, he’s six foot one and a half.
He weighed about 213 pounds at his uh final weight um in his final fights around 213 215.
His amateur career was uh, pretty extensive.
He had 54 fights.
He won 50 of them, uh 43 fights in his amateur career by knockout, so his knockout ratio graham, is like 90 or something as an amateur, so it was 50 wins four losses in his amateur career, which is basically unheard of.
Even you know, i mean he hit that magic 50 as we always call it in his amateur career and then uh catapulted himself into a professional career that was uh unmatched at the time and he didn’t duck nobody either by the way, guys all you talking fight Fans neal the deal fans, this guy didn’t duck, nobody no duck and run for him.
He went at him straight at him and he gave it his best shot and he basically won 90 of his fights.
So he won the golden when he was a child.
He won the golden gloves and office division championship in the late heavyweight division in 1933.
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So he was, you know the novice light heavyweight champion um.
He also won the us amateur uh championship, uh, it’s the aau tournament in 1934.
, so that catapulted him into a professional career, because his amateur career was so uh so spectacular.
So he moved on to his pro career.
We’Ll talk about some of his pro stats here.
He had 69 total fights, uh of which he won 66 fights pretty impressive, hey graham, he only lost three fights in his career out of 69 fights so that uh guys look up joe lewis.
That’S why he’s such an icon around the world and uh people recognize him uh? They recognize his name.
He was uh, absolutely a gem, an absolute amazing boxer, so please go and see a little bit about uh the brown bomber right.
So we had the uh.
He had the 66 wins 52 knockouts of the 66 wins.
He had three uh three losses.
He was ko twice in his career uh.
He won his first 24 bouts, graham that he started his career.
Oh uh, 24-0, with 20 kos.
So right off the hop he was basically uh.
There wasn’t too many guys that were able to stand in with him right um and he showed everybody what he was all about and he had a loss.
His first loss we’re going to talk about because he only had three losses, so his first loss was, he was killed by a guy named max schmelly.
That’S max schmeling.
He was a german boxer who was uh right up at the top of the ranks there back in the day.
I believe he was being trained by nazis.
He was an actual nazi gram, so he had the same training as hitler’s guys.
You know what i mean, so hitler was training this guy.
Somehow and i ended up – he’s – got to fight the brown bomber and he beat him.
The the german guy beat him.
So that was a pretty big shock to the people of the united states and around the world that joe lewis actually lost a fight.
He had not lost before that.
So then, after that loss he won 34 straight fights, graham right, 29 of them by ko.
So he avenged that loss with a with a spectacular flurry of wins with spectacular, uh knockouts, i mean 29 knockouts in 34.
Fights like not too many guys have ever done that sort of stuff.
His last fight was on october 26 1951 and he fought of all guys to end his career rocky marciano, so he lost to marciano because we know marciano was 49-0, and so after that merciano loss he uh.
I guess he figured that that was enough, ready, retired from the ring and in that fight, if you guys watch that fight guys.
Neil the deal fans talking fight fans, joe lewis, versus rocky marciano, joe lewis, took a beating of his lifetime, like it was a bad situation um.
He was tko in the eighth round, but it was eight rounds of being completely beaten to a pulp.
It was almost, it was almost like larry holmes, beating up muhammad ali.
It’S sort of on that level.
You know what i mean where it wasn’t.
Fair people didn’t want to see it really, and i don’t even think that marciano wanted to do it, because i know that marciano had mentioned in his autobiography how much he respected joe lewis and uh and did a lot of um stuff in his career based around What joe lewis taught him uh with it? Even being a professional? I think it’s it’s being a professional in public uh, public appearances.
He helped marciano out and mercy.
I don’t feel bad about laying that severe beating on a guy that he, you know, respects and uh and the doors.
Basically i heard that he adored him.
So, oh well, that’s the fight game right everybody’s got to eat.
You know you got to make a living.
So that’s the way it goes uh.
This is an unbelievable stat.
He made 25 title defenses, graham and uh.
He held the heavyweight title from 1937 until 1948, so he was the heavyweight champion of the world for 11 years 11 years.
I think now guys, i think, there’s a new champion every six months like now wilder the next time.
It’S tyson fury the next time.
You know what i mean like it just keeps going these guys don’t last more than six months and they lose their time.
Glitch go vladimir, all of them.
This guy held the title.
Your title by the way 11 years come on.
Who does that? Nobody so and to this day it’s still a record abraham.
That is a record, so he holds the record for holding the heavyweight championship world crown for the longest duration in the history of boxing 11 years, the heavyweight crown so all the big boys tyson holyfield any of these guys.
They didn’t do any of that right.
They just you know a couple of years, four or five years, and then that’s it right, not this guy! So we’ll end it up here um he had uh 20.
He had 27 title uh fights in his career and he ko’d 23 of his opponents.
In those title fights so and that included five world champions that he ko’d, so he not only beat the best, but he knocked out the best and he retained his titles and he put them up uh for anybody to take from them.
And apparently nobody could take them until he got a little older and a little long in the tooth.
I guess, and you know father time caught up with them.
I guess you would say right, so god bless you joe.
That was awesome.
We’Ll just talk guys a little more quickly about uh about his uh fights and ones that you guys might want to go check out um.
These are amazing fights any one of them.
Uh you’ll love them all.
So we’ll start with um primo kanera right.
He tk owned in the sixth.
We got max, bear he ko’d him in the fourth.
We talked about max, bear graham remember, uh they’re on the beverly hillbillies and all that right, yeah jack shark sharky.
He ko’d him in the third round uh max melling.
That was the loss.
He was ko’d in the 12th round and then he had he fought him twice and then he won the second match to rematch and ko smelling in the first.
So he avenged the loss with a win in the first and knocked him out.
So that, basically, is is amazing.
You know like to be able to avenge a loss like that and knock the guy out.
That knocked you out in one round.
Is that that’s that’ll tell you how amazing he was.
He also fought.
Uh buddy bear.
He bought billy khan billy kahn’s, another guy.
You might want to check out joe lewis versus billy khan uh.
He ko’d him in the 30, the 13th and the 8th.
So he beat him twice.
Billy cahn back in the day the fights were, a lot of them are 15 rounds.
They don’t do 15 rounds anymore, they’re, all 12 round world title fights um.
They might the odd one – i don’t know – maybe 15 rounds, but back in the day when i was growing up every heavyweight championship fight any of the halley norton’s frasers foremans.
Any of them are always 15 rounds, but they don’t do the 15 rounds anymore.
I think it’s some sort of a health and safety issue.
I guess by the time you’ve taken 12 rounds of a beating.
You know you don’t want to have to take three more right, so they i think they cut it off at 12.
Now so a couple other quick guys was uh jersey, joe walcott, who we’ll talk about in another episode, guys so keep yours for uh about jersey, joe and lastly, uh rocky marciano, which was the final fight for him and he lost uh.
He lost by a tko in the eighth round, so unbelievable fighter.
In his retirement years.
I understand he was uh doing a few appearances, tv, appearances and stuff small little parts uh.
He also.
He also helped out in the boxing community immensely.
He would he would go to a lot of fights.
I can remember, graham watching world title fights with uh, tyson and holyfield, and these guys – and he was always in the crowd and they would always say you know they’d always announce his name over the the loudspeaker and let all the people and all his fans know That he was actually there at the fight.
I remember seeing him, he was very elderly at that point and uh.
He basically would come in with two canes.
He had a wheelchair and you know, was joe lewis right so hell of a fighter, unbelievable guy.
He wrote a book.
There was some movies made about him.
Uh they’ve had commemorative coins.
The us mint has made joe lewis commemorative coins, so he goes down in the history guys as one of the very very best, probably one of the innovators, of what we now call uh boxing um.
Obviously, he wasn’t bare knuckle, but he was um pretty close to it.
He was, like i say, born in in like 19, 14 or 50.
You know what i mean like way back, so he he learned he he probably as a child.
Graham, i would think he’d be watching these bare knuckle guys like jack johnson and this as a child.
I guess you know what i mean because they didn’t have gloves and stuff back in 1910.
It was just put on your lululemons and start winging punches.
You know what i mean get on your lulu lemons, we’ll see you in the ring.
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I won’t hurt you.
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I just want to just want you to come out and show the world that neil the deal is a better boxer than you.
That’S it so we’ll address that when you decide to be a man how’s that grow up call me bieber all right, justin jb! I love you buddy all right, so um, graham that’s our joe lewis for the night.
I just want to thank the fans, all the people out there.
I got a couple of shout outs tonight, graham some people that i was talking to on the weekend and uh.
I had a great time with them wanted to say hi to amanda amanda, if you’re watching how you doing it’s me, i want to say hi to alicia.
Obviously my friend alicia my best friend, i want to say hi to my buddies over at uh over at the railroad yeah, i’m getting a bunch of calls from the railroad boys, my old friends, uh we’re the railroad boys were they last of the cowboys we are So those guys are calling and making and making fun of me, but that’s what we do so i just wanted to say you know what i mean: try working on the railroad, that’s uh an experience in itself guys, but you try that it’s crazy, it’s cowboy style! So anyways thanks a lot for watching.
I really appreciate all the likes the shares, the comments and obviously the subscriptions.
Please keep them coming and hopefully we’ll see you tomorrow night.
Graham, i understand.
Is there a possibility of us having a live guest on wednesday, or has that been sorted? That’S confirmed, sid vanderpool will be joining us right on there.
You go guys it’s coming from the boss’s mouth, mr sid vanderpool will be on the neil.
The deal show on wednesday, so please watch and learn from one of the world’s best, a canadian guy one of my favorite guys, sid vanderpool.
We talked about him about a couple weeks ago.
I guess now, graham and uh what a heck of a guy.
So i’m really looking forward to it.
Sid can’t wait to meet you buddy you’re in my heart, you’re, an absolute gem.
I love you we’ll see you on wednesday sid’s coming thanks a lot for coming out.
Everybody! God bless! You we’ll see you soon.
Hopefully, tomorrow yeah thanks very much.
You appreciate that quick question is the joe lewis arena named after him in detroit? Yes, it is absolutely yeah.
That’S the connection then, between what’s the connection then between joe lewis and detroit.
Well, i think there was something i don’t know.
I honestly don’t know it’s something i will look up.
I will find out what, but, yes it was definitely named after him.
Maybe he was a personal friend of mike hillich, the owner of the detroit redwings, who owns little caesars and all the other companies that mike owned uh rest in peace mike thanks for all the great hockey teams, buddy and uh.
Maybe it was just mikeylich liked him as simple as that.
He just thought he was a great person and thought it’d be a great way to pay homage to the guy and name this name, the stadium after him, i i mean, makes sense, i guess yeah i mean he’s, maybe mr rillich just liked.
Not many people have a name back in the night.
No, not really.
No, we don’t have the uh.
What do we got? Scotia center? We should just rename it the bobby bond center, called that best toronto maple leaf ever or maybe even the daryl sittler center or the dave keon center, not the scotiabank center.
That’S for girls like really it’s got ta be named after somebody cool.
You know like a good hockey player for toronto right how about the? How about the wendell clark center there you go.
That’S what i’d call it toughest biggest heart best player, love them the most wendell you’re watching dude.
I love you wendell.
You are the bomb bro.
So anyways graham yeah, well uh, we’ll let the let let us uh try to figure out that question.
Well i’ll! Do a little research about this joe lewis arena thing! That’S cool! All right! We’Ll see you tomorrow night, then yeah fantastic, graham thanks a lot for having me out and again guys like shares comments subscriptions.
They are flying in like hot cakes.
It’S unbelievable, i’m completely blown away, and i want to thank everybody from the bottom of my heart.
Thank you so much guys have yourselves a great day hope you had a great weekend.
I certainly did and uh.
Let’S just keep rolling and uh we’ll talk to you tomorrow, how’s that i hope you’re here we will.
God bless you thanks a lot.
Thank you.
Neil good night
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