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EPISODE: Episode 11
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Transcribed:
Good evening boxing fans around the world, thank you once again for joining us.
On another edition of the friday night panel featuring cedric ben mike orr and myself, we’ve got a couple of guests, lined up uh, we know one’s uh driving along on the road.
We don’t want to make him talk and drive at the same time, so we’ve put him in the green room and said join us in a few minutes.
When you get home good to see you back cedric, i know you had a couple weeks off there.
A couple of rough weeks, uh, hope, you’re, okay, yeah, yeah yeah, you know.
Sometimes life life is like boxing.
You know taking a couple of big blows, but uh you got ta, you got ta, try to get up and uh and bounce back and keep going.
So that’s what i’m trying to do and thank you for that.
It’S nice! You smile on your face, brother yeah, absolutely absolutely and uh.
So we have some big fights uh this weekend.
Don’T we um? Yes, we definitely do.
We definitely do tomorrow night tomorrow, night man.
Well, technically, it’s tomorrow afternoon, tomorrow night for us, but it’s not well! No, it’s 2 p.
m! Eastern! Oh! That’S right! So it will be afternoon for us too yeah.
Oh yeah, well, yeah! I guess so evening.
Two o’clock, yeah man, who said the main event, the main event, will probably start.
I’M assuming it’ll, probably start about four thirty, four thirty, five, we’ll we’ll see we’ll see who uh, who knows man, hopefully it’s a long one it’d be nice.
In a previous episode, i picked uh joshua to win within sex by knockout.
If he doesn’t take advantage of his reach uh, i think usyk will take it to the distance and then they’ll leave in the hands of the judges, and we don’t want that to happen.
So yeah, i’m i’m hoping joshua wins.
I hope he wins within the first six rounds, honestly uh on that card as well.
What i’m really looking forward to is the uh lauren sokoli, oh yeah, yeah uh against uh dylan and dylan persovic uh.
That’S that’s gon na be good man, that’s uh! What uh wbo world cruiserweight titles on the line there that’s the co-main event yeah and then uh.
Also before that we have campbell campbell, hatton uh and that’s for uh.
What is this a lightweight contest against uh dura? Let’S give me another good fight and then we got the callum smith and lennon costello for uh.
You know that’s the light heavy yeah, what a great, what a great card that they’ve stacked up here – man, it’s it’s full of some exciting fighters! Uh there’s going to be a quick question.
Is there um? I was watching some of the press conference.
There was one guy that was talking a lot of trash um, florian marku, i believe his name is, is a former former um, i’m not sure if he was a former kickboxer or something like that, but um.
He was talking a lot a lot of trash at the press conference.
Yeah yeah he’s uh.
That’S for the to see that that’s uh, that’s ten three minute rounds, ibf international welterweight title is on the line and uh it’s it’s maxim: maximum pro dad uh versus florian, marcou and uh yeah, it’s uh milan, italy versus london, england, nice, nice right so uh.
It’S just it’s geared up to be a really good one uh.
You know the undercards too man, it’s it’s! It’S all nice, it’s all nice! All fight card is awesome.
I can’t wait.
I can’t wait to watch this one yeah.
So now we have uh joining us on the panel as promised uh welterweight champion carlos palomino.
Oh now, a famous tv actor and movie star, i might add, hey hello.
Thank you for joining me.
Thank you for joining.
I don’t know about that, but thank you for joining.
Thank you for joining us champ good to be here with you guys, so we were just recapping some of the uh.
Do you still do you still follow the fights at all? Oh yeah yeah.
I’M a big fan, i watch uh as much as i can at press conferences like watch everything i bet you.
You still have a list of the top five people you fight today, right uh.
You know i haven’t.
I know that there’s a big fight coming up tomorrow or joshua, but i haven’t seen the opponent, so i’m not i’m not really sure uh he’s the uh reigning reigning champ of the cruiserweights right.
He was a cruiser cruiser before champion.
He stepped up to go heavy.
Now yeah yeah yeah i’ve seen joshua, but i haven’t seen the opponent, so i don’t know.
I really don’t have an opinion because i haven’t seen him fight.
So our friend uh eddie asked you to join us on the show.
He seemed to have a great time with us last time he was on uh.
He said you had some great stories to share not only about your career, but also about uh.
You know boxers in general and what they do with their lives after their careers.
As a boxer is over, you seem to have done quite well.
I might add.
Well yeah i mean i, you know i had a plan right from the beginning, uh, you know i went to school.
I went to college while i was pursuing my boxing career at the same time and uh.
You know i got a degree, but i might can you hear me took an acting class just just just just to check it out and i uh i really liked it, but i didn’t this is 1977 and uh.
I really didn’t know i mean i just took it as an elected class uh then in 78 i got a chance to do the show taxi uh and i just thought okay.
This is i want to do this, i’m going to try this.
I went bang.
You know i talked to all the actors on the set.
You know tony danza uh danny devito, and i asked him.
You know how.
How do i do this and they just they told me, you got ta, get yourself an agent.
You got ta get into some acting classes because it’s gon na be difficult.
The hardest part of of the acting business is getting jobs because you have to go on auditions and you basically have to perform in a room in front.
You know 10 15 people.
Sometimes i i you know, i had my last fight against duran 79.
I decided okay.
This is the time now to uh uh, to start my new career and – and i saw him full pledge into my acting career – i took uh, i went to you, know, classes hired, a private, acting coach for classes, and i – and i don’t – i still study now And then the class just to stay sharp, so sorry mike when you were on taxi, did you appear as a boxer? Was it because because didn’t tony danza wasn’t he also a former boxer yeah? I played myself basically when they they called me and asked me if i would do that, i told them, i’m not an actor.
You know i was world champion at the time 1978 and uh.
They started to play yourself.
So, oh we’ve lost audio, that’s just as a career, and you know i’ve done [, Music, ].
Oh, we lost him.
I was also going to say uh.
He was also in a in an episode of star trek voyager what, as a boxer uh he well.
It was called the fight really yeah yeah.
It was uh uh march 24th.
1999 is when it aired oh you’re you’re, just reading off google or something you’re yeah.
No, i i looked at his acting career right.
I wanted to see what it was like.
So i checked it out, but yeah that’s hilarious and then uh yeah.
We were just talking about yeah.
We were just talking about your star trek career.
You know my goal was to one day maybe get on a tv series that would run for you know.
15 years and then i would have to never have to work again but uh that happened.
I was in hollywood in a production meeting, because uh uh, i’m gon na, have my my life story made into a future film.
Oh that’s right, um! So we’re probably getting really close to uh uh to getting this home under on the uh we’re in pre production.
Now we have a script, we’re talking to actors uh, and so that’s my my next move in my career.
Hopefully to get my get my feature film.
I i can’t wait to see it that nice, a nice biopic of your life and and career, and it’s gon na, be a good one.
That’S for sure um do you find it harder preparing for for an acting gig or boxing would would make me find harder.
Oh yeah, that is a gig.
You know uh the the work that goes into preparation for uh for a [, __, ] fight, you know doing a foreign fight.
You know uh uh, six round.
Five, ten round fights you know if you’re, if you’re focused on on and just discipline on your contending and the work that you have to put in nothing is just not i mean i don’t know any sport that that demands as much as boxing uh, and you Know when i wanted to title and then i you know i was fighting 50 round fights at first.
You know i mean i at first.
I thought: how am i, how in the hell am i going to make 15 rounds? I mean, i would say, uh a turnaround.
Fight was difficult enough about 15.
That’S just that.
I just thought it was uh.
Who knows? Who does that and then you know i got into the uh the training and realized.
You know what i had to do to uh be able to go 15 rounds and be strong all 15 rounds.
Uh never never show any kind of fatigue in 15 rounds, and it was just a tremendous amount of work, so uh just running six miles every day.
Six days a week when it’s six minute miles plenty sprints twice a week, go to the track and running sprints like like uh like a sprinter uh, and then you know my first title fight uh my my title fight against john stracy.
I sparred 150 rounds uh in a sixth and a six-week camp that basically that basically became my name uh every every time i defend the title.
I would spark over a hundred rounds uh in preparation uh, because then i guess then i knew that nobody else was doing that and i didn’t have to worry about somebody else being in a condition than i was, and so i’m, if you see uh, i fight Against that monday morning is my first title defense that one 15 rounds uh.
I stopped him with tech is 10 seconds to go in the 15th, and if you see that fight, i’m throwing punches in the 15th round as hard and as fast as i was in the first few rounds, a couple times correct.
What was that you thought? You fought um um, you needs a couple of times.
Did you know that in your the career person? The first fight, though, was uh? You know, was fight of the year in 1977 it was just an absolute war uh.
The second fight was a lot easier because then i you know i i i had a couple more title fights under my adult and it was a lot more confident than i just boxed the whole fight and able to win an easy decision.
Quick question: what um? What uh, what adjustments did you make in your in your training camp between uh to prepare for this? For the rematch like? What did you do different in training rematch? Well, you know i i i would train for the first one to box.
You know because the guy that was in chess every sec of every round that was styled and uh, we trained the box, but at the weigh-in he was talking a lot of crap.
He was gon na knock me out and i was i don’t know how in the hell i became champion.
You know – and so i said: okay, okay, i’m gon na beat this guy home game all right.
I’M gon na get his ass right.
Now i’m gon na kick his ass around and finally, by the eighth round.
I think inside box and i did and then i just made a a huge comeback.
So the second part i already knew.
Okay, i just got a box and i prepared the same way.
I did for the first fight, but i i did it in the fight.
Just boxing myself.
Stick to the game plans you stuck to the game plan used my jab and you know kind of side coming in stuck to the game plan that you fought.
You fought a lot of you’ve got a lot of 15 round fights from uh.
What like 77 to 79.
Almost every fight was 15 rounds right.
I’M not i’m in our time here with you.
Oh sorry, i’m saying from from what i think was 1977 and 1979.
All your fights were 15 round pranks weren’t.
They i had.
I defended the title: uh nighttime rock 50 round fights.
Oh wow wow, that’s uh! That’S yeah! I guess that was after fighting around champions.
It was right after i get uh somewhere in the mid-80s where they got somebody, they had a couple of dances in the ring, and so they got the title.
Fights to 12.
lost them again.
Speaking of cutting yeah, i think i think it’s his phone.
That’S uh got the feedback.
It’S unfortunate.
I was gon na say to him, like you know he for two years he fought 15 rounds right nine, nine times in a row how many times in a row 15 round fight.
So did they all go the distance uh? Oh well, not not all of them a couple of rounds here, a lot of them.
A few of them went the distance but um.
Oh, the champ is back champ championship.
What are the welterweights fight? Now? 12? Yeah? Yes, everybody fights! 12! Really.
Did you really feel a big difference for going from 15 to down to 12 rounds like uh how’s that transition to you did you feel you could just throw more punches and be busier all right? I never.
I never fought a 12-round fight.
You know all my fights were 15, oh all, 50 and wow yeah, 10s and 15s.
That’S all you ever thought.
Sorry, yeah! That’S crazy! Out of your 31 victories uh, which is which is your most memorable.
Oh, i think he froze on us.
Oh, i was gon na ask him yeah, so, usa joshua he fought, he fought roberto duran, yes, yes, yeah yeah yeah, he did and we’ll friend will fred wilfred benitez too yeah yeah.
Not many people can say that, oh is it just me or or guys and and fans watching around the world? Have you guys noticed that a lot of these um face-to-face um, you know stare downs now are turning into like you know, slugfest.
What’S that slugfest they have, they have like you know just recently what canelo had planned you know.
Can someone tell me why they have these stare downs like what is the point of them this for the picture, just just for the for the you know for the um for the advertising for people to see.
Like you know, these two guys are about to face off.
You know it’s just that.
You know what honestly i do.
I do enjoy the face-off, but i like the way that tyrone, woodley and jake paul were sitting down at like a you know at a table.
They should have had like brand new cigars.
That was a good face-off because they had time to think about what they wanted to say.
You know i hear: woodley is gon na get that tattooed.
Now i think, did he get in there? Did he get it? I thought he got it.
No, that’s a baby cam.
Can you hear me now out of all your victories out of all your 31 victories, which is your most memorable out? What so which which, which is your most memorable fight out of all your victories? Try again, i don’t know so guys can’t have no dead air.
We got to talk, got ta talk, so there’s fights on tonight, guys um.
If there is, if you have usa, uh, usa, showtime fight pass uh, argentina, channel 9 or channel 9.
, there’s there’s stuff everywhere.
What time um you know? What? Probably, probably now, probably around this time? Okay: okay, okay, we got uh argentina, tyc sports, uh media we’ve got uh poland, poland, if you can uh, get one of those one of those uh channels or find a streaming on the same on the same channel that we watch the fights on there right right.
Mike yeah yeah, it’s there, it’s yeah we’re not giving the secret away, though yeah yeah, uh, usa, estrela tv.
It’S got some stuff on tonight, uh.
We also have yeah poland, tvp sport.
You can sometimes find that on.
I believe it’s like the equivalent of a polish instagram.
I could have sworn the logo.
Look the exact same, i’m not i’m not saying that it is, but i’m saying that the logo was just a different color, but it did look the same so we’ll just uh.
Also, we have fights.
Oh, we have fights all over uh, connecticut, uh convention center hartford.
We got ufc or usa ufc fight pass shown that fight and uh yeah there’s there’s a bunch of fights today.
Man, i’m so upset that uh, you know they’re, not all that.
Not everybody can see the man because they’re gon na be really good.
You know central park community center.
We got usa showtime, it’s another card that we can watch and then yeah you’re argentina, channel 9 tyc sports tomorrow, as well, so guys find the streams watch.
These fights man.
This is where we find all these knockouts for our sunday show, which cedric welcome you’re going to be welcomed.
Back yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, i can’t wait till we can uh have it have our uh.
We have a wonderful discussion about how people go to sleep in the ring.
Yeah people go to sleep.
An educated discussion, educated discussion on how that mouth guard is still in the air flying somewhere.
That was a great clip.
Oh, that was that was brilliant when that mouth guard goes flying like that, you know every muscle in that guy’s body, just let go even his butt.
I bet she pooped a little just straight horizontal project projection into the crowd.
Yeah yeah.
I swear that thing.
Probably didn’t touch down for like 10 minutes.
It was great.
Oh okay, awesome champ.
Can you hear us how’s the connection? No, do you have the audio champ? Can you hear us it’s very upsetting.
We can see him.
I know i know it’s.
It sucks man, because you know we’ve got a legend here on the screen.
We can’t hear him trying to get you on champ um, he’s uh he’s at a he’s.
Had a pretty uh extensive, acting career as well man, oh yeah, yeah uh he’s got 38 credits.
Uh under his acting belt, so you know that’s uh, that’s great! That’S awesome! Um! I wonder what his favorite uh yeah.
He can’t hear us a few cool questions to ask him what his favorite punch was.
What his favorite thing was to work on and during training.
Uh, hopefully, he’s back.
Hopefully he comes back.
You know what my favorite punch is the one that knocks him the hell out.
Well, i think i said the tropical punch that you get at the uh fruit punch, yeah, yeah, yeah, heavy bag.
What’S her name, hey side, sidebar question: have you guys heard of the ubo universal boxing organization? No, so uh they contacted me with respect to live streaming.
Events, that’s nice and i responded accordingly and then we found out that, in actual fact, the broadcast rights to these events, even though they’re taking place in far away – i’m not talking, uk or usa, far away places and uh, and they said in fact they assign all The broadcast rights to the promoter, so it’s actually the promoters who own the live streaming rights, slash broadcast rights mike mike – and i were talking about this last week – that we can we can i mean we can do it just as we’re broadcasting our own little talk Show here you can also broadcast fights.
I i do.
I do remember uh somebody suggesting that we we have a all women fight card weekly yeah.
Would we this might be two two.
I don’t know if this is two much, but would we be able to like commentate over the fights as we’re like watch the stream in the fight? Sir? Yes, really that would be awesome.
You know everybody wants to hear you anyway come on.
You know we’re going to test it out in a local gym and uh.
Basically, uh set up uh uh.
Almost you know how used to be surround.
Sound we’re gon na do surround all right.
Go ahead.
Go ahead! Cedric asking me questions, uh champ! You can hear us right now.
I was just wondering um, just during training what was well during your friday career.
What was your favorite punch, the throw like what was what what punch did like? If you knew you landed this specific punch that it was definitely gon na do damage and how did, and how did you work on that during training, [ Applause ], you know, you know what i’m i’m putting in a request for a new care, but you can’t Have just one bag – oh yeah, so lots of fights on tonight guys so get ready.
The big joshua we got our next guest coming on soon uh the ice man, john scully, uh, [, Music ].
I resent him the link.
I mean he’s online uh.
That was 23 minutes ago.
He said he’d be joining us uh, but he also said he had a.
He had a prior engagement this evening.
That starts at eight o’clock, so he could only pop in and and pop out just saying somebody else i’ll be right back, but he wanted.
He wanted to join us uh on another show.
So i said, don’t worry about it if you have, if you have time, join us tonight.
If you don’t come back another night um, i just got ta just touch base with uh our friend again uh chris boyle out of uh xbox yeah um.
We are setting up a sit-down interview table with uh his three stable women uh of after the last fight we’re gon na have, and you know that nicola smally and l with chris on the show together and we are going to analyze and break down their last Fights where they were crowned and yeah nice nice.
What is this? What date is the schedule for um we’re gon na work, something out for maybe next week but the week after, just to make sure that all the women can, you know, coordinate their schedules and we can have everybody together in one shot.
I think it’s gon na be great.
Okay, guys stay tuned, look for that uh! That should be good.
Maybe we’ll do it on the friday night panel, because uh it is gon na, be a ton of them.
Uh and you know, it’ll be a long one guys because you know chris chris can talk and uh.
You know he’s got a lot to say and uh.
If you don’t know about that in related in related news, mike uh holly towel actually got her belt today.
Yeah, it’s amazing.
It’S amazing, amazing, very, very good.
Carlos she’s back the champ is back hey.
Can you hear us? I’M here you guys haven’t had a hard time, a hard time.
Uh.
I don’t know it’s.
Okay, it’s okay! We’Re trying we’re trying my laptop with me.
We can kind of hear you now champ.
We can kind of hear you know uh what what uh? What was your favorite win out of all your wins in your career, your favorite fight, the one that just sticks in your memory and, like you were like yeah, that was the best best one.
Okay, i got to stop asking that question.
That question makes it that yo it makes [ __ ] camera.
Freeze, i’m sorry, i’m sorry, i’m sorry for my language, but that is number one.
Five that’s five times, i’m trying for four all right i’ll do this again when i have my laptop okay, no problem! No problem, yes, it’s great to meet you champion.
We hope you can come back next week.
I tried to reach out to tim witherspoon.
I didn’t get an answer.
I wished him all the best in a healthy recovery, yeah, so uh yeah.
Hopefully we can get him back on on the panel soon yeah.
We definitely.
We definitely love his uh.
His entertaining stories stories of uh boxing from the late 70s and early 80s yeah and and the craziness that actually went on in boxing, then there’s there.
You know what there’s the guy to ask right there.
Why didn’t, i think, about asking tim about tomato cans and journeymen.
That’S who we should have talked to.
He would probably have a good.
He would probably have a good yeah.
We will perspective on it.
Let’S, let’s put that on the list, yeah we’re on the show we on the show random, random guest, think of random guess the thing of um someone darnell boom, who i i guess, i’m not sure if he’d be considered a journeyman, but i’m not sure i don’t Think he was ever like uh uh uh.
You know ranked top five or anything like that, but he was always in tough, a tough out for anybody.
He actually dropped andre ward early in his career um when he had like it might have been single digit amount of fights um, so yeah uh, some of those some of those so-called journeymen are, you know, they’re still tough and they and they stick around.
For a reason like we talked about, i was i wasn’t on the series, but i watched the whole uh worst records in boxing series that was classic.
Oh, my goodness yeah you liked it.
I do.
I love that i loved it um and honestly.
That was just a small list.
We could have that.
We could have done that for two weeks.
We had done that for two weeks but come on how how how much we we have 29 minutes to go on this show so hey hey, we can.
We can talk about it all you want yeah, okay, let’s go come on cedric the toughness, the toughness it takes to them, not just the physical toughness but the mental toughness it takes to continue to get in their loss after loss after a loss and then win And then loss after loss after loss after loss and they lost and then one way some of these guys go years without a win like years.
Listen when you’re 12, when you’re, when your record is 12 279.
Like are you there’s a guy right now, that’s active! I saw a couple of weeks ago on one of the smaller cards.
I believe it was uh, boston, boxing promotions or or buckhead fight club, or something like that and i’m pretty sure i sent you guys a shot and i said where’s waldo, like where’s the world’s record in the world.
This guy still competes, and i think he had 171 losses last time, but you you, you asked the question in uh in one of the shows you said like.
I was just wondering.
First of all, we, you know it’d, be cool to interview, one of these guys and in a serious way, just to ask them like what.
What exactly is the is the is the motivation um money, because you know at this point in time.
You can’t be seriously thinking about like a real world or getting a chat with a world title and um one shot, though, and even you know just as a as a as a coach, it’s kind of kind of hard to to gain.
You know how do you take your fighter seriously? Seriously? Hey coach, i got a fight coming up, yeah, yeah, sure buddy.
Here you should get in there.
You should get in there and skip rope and uh go run the block twice.
Oh, you should be good.
You know you know what’s kind of funny and uh what cedric was saying earlier about the the mental fortitude.
It would take uh to jump into that ring because you have so many now.
Olympic athletes coming out after the these current olympics have just finished coming out and saying how much stress they were under how much therapy they’re going through right now, because they had so much to deal with.
So i’m saying to myself throughout this entire week-long series like how much like it must have taken a lot to go into that ring written night after night week after week, month after month, to get beaten, yeah, yeah yeah it just um.
It has to be a combination of i guess you have to love it.
I mean you have to love it, that the paychecks must be somewhat good.
You know if you’re, i don’t know i i don’t know there has to be something that that uh that they’re holding on to oh, no honestly, no, the female that you featured on friday that she has zero losses.
I mean zero wins you’re, like did you did you? Did you not hear that? Oh, no, no, the other way around! Oh and 22.
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That’S right! Oh last, spell boxing: how are you doing how’s it going long time? You’Ll see? Yes, yes, um! The honorable mention was eric crumble on thursday um zero wins 32.
I believe no 31 losses all by way of knockout what he 20 of them.
20 of these are in the first round and the next 11 are in the second he’s, never been past.
The second round was crumble as a nickname.
No, that was his crumble.
The matchmakers, actually, you know try to dig out these guys and say hey.
I know i know who we’re going to set you up again.
I think no, i think he became a banker or some [ __ ].
Well, he’s he’s been he’s been listed as like the worst boxer in history.
His nickname is the confidence booster.
No, no, the open door.
You just step in there blow on him.
He falls over like that’s ridiculous, like how okay, you don’t win for that amount of time like really like.
Really, you don’t win and you’re going to still try to take that area.
[, Music, ]! I got this.
I got it.
How does your coach look at you and follow you out to the ring because he’s being paid just walk into the ring like this [ Laughter ]? But but man there’s there’s a ton, there’s a ton of guys man that have these huge, huge losses and honestly, then, without without journeyman, we we wouldn’t test the prospects to their full ability.
You know what i mean: oh with timeout.
We can’t just skip over that.
All first and second round, knockouts, like you, could really do you can literally do advertisements for, like you know, the furniture stores like the mattresses like here’s, someone who can show you how to go to sleep yo.
You know i was telling during during thursday’s show.
I mentioned i was like listen.
He probably brings a pillow in a blanket with him to the ring like his his quarter.
Men are carrying buckets in water or, like you know, vaseline and [ __ ] they’re, bringing the pillow in the blanket yeah just roll them out right here guys.
This will be a long one yeah.
This won’t be long, don’t blink! Oh super middleweight! You know he.
He he debuted he debuted in june of 1990 uh and then he participated in 32.
Fights lost everyone with exception of a no contest in 94.
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So you know you know what would be interesting if i could stop laughing is uh to have a look at their amateur crews like.
Were they really good as amateurs, you can’t even find that [ __ ]? Oh, my goodness, the announcer’s like scheduled for four rounds, but hey, that’s one cedric cedric did.
Did you see the clip that mike and i watched, i can’t remember who it was uh? What’S that guy’s name and the guy has three different aliases? Oh yes, each of his records.
No that’s reggie strickland, so they can’t actually tell they can’t tell how many la how like how what is right, reggie, reggie strickland! Wasn’T it was it reggie’s, true yeah! Oh man go go back to that episode.
I put the clip on the actual chat: let’s see anyone who’s watching, you can actually click and hear the hear the announcers giggling on themselves, because they can’t even figure out how many what’s his real records.
Is it three in 300.
, you know what the paycheck does help but uh during during my during my wonderful adventures, to find out find out this wonderful event, information yeah.
This is wonderful information uh! Well, while we were setting this all up.
Oh, my gosh, of course, check check.
I know that has to be carl making that comment.
You know what car car i believe there is a journeyman that i did watch a documentary on uh.
I believe it’s kevin kevin mccauley or macaulay uh.
I believe, if carl, if carl, can back me up on this one, because you know he’s british – and so is this guy uh he’s he’s another one.
That he’s got a great story.
You got ta check him out.
Uh he’s got a great, a great record too, of uh, 15, 186 and 12.
and uh.
He just said that uh, you know at one point: he he realized that uh.
He was stuck on the b side of boxing and um.
You know he’s like it’s a paycheck, it’s kind of what i got into he’s like you notice when you’re a b-side boxer, because you know all of a sudden your promoters change recent.
You know frequently your coaching changes frequently take you seriously: hey mom, hey mom.
Will you be my corner man tonight [ Laughter ]? Oh my goodness? Oh wow! Oh i needed this laugh like i am seriously in theory.
Oh i needed that.
I haven’t.
I haven’t lost this heart since i saw woody harrelson get beat up by that girl or the boob shot.
Sorry, we got carried away there.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, all right back to serious boxing! Here’S boxing october, 9th, oh wait.
Kev kevin mccauley is now at 15.
213 and 12.
is he from nottingham uh? No, he resides in uh, so stout stower bridge west midlands, united kingdom uh born in brighton’s, uh, sussex, brighton, he’s, fought 1096 rounds wow and he uh.
He fought august 18th uh against ryan wheeler at uh.
The mecca, regent, circus, swindon emphasis on the word circus, so this guy’s still competing man, but he’s got a long way to go to reach 277.
So you know you still got.
You still got a long way to go, but yeah yeah we breed champions.
We got simi black 33 167 and four donny pendleton 13 166 and 6.
yo man, and without these guys you know some of these guys get these paychecks.
That’S i like that.
No he’s champions honestly, uh yeah man, these records, and you know what, without these guys, really we’re, not testing prospects, because you know, even though these guys got over 270 losses.
They’Re not knocked out they’ve only been knocked out a handful of times right, like it’d, be bad.
If you like, you know 279 and you got 278 like way of knockout, i’m pretty sure your doctor, wouldn’t let you get back in the ring ever i keep getting cleared to fight after the 79th floor.
You know why, because they pick up the phone they’re like hey, can you make it they’re going to be here in two hours, yeah i’ll, be there it’s like a one win: every 15 fight, 115 fights but uh.
My favorite, though, is eric crumble.
Zero for 31! Oh man never been past the second round, his career, spanned like 13 years, do it is he still alive he’s still like 54 years old? I believe, he’s a um.
What does he do now? Account executive at yeah he’s still talk, he’s probably the account executive at national sports.
I think, let’s dream in over the canada for your prospects.
Oh yes! Yes, we do have a few prospects.
Yes, they’ll be coming up in a few years.
Don’T worry, yeah they’re coming up they’re coming up who’s, our one prospect uh right now, uh! Well, i have to stay silent on that, but um.
The prospects i was thinking about are still in the amateurs right now.
They’Re coming up they’re coming up hey, you know what that’s a good idea: let’s get some journeymen over to canada for our prospects.
That’D be great.
You know why? Because you know there actually be fighting happening here.
Then yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Do we have any fight cards going on in canada, yet no, but as another sidebar, the last fight that iceman john scully fought was a victory and it was at the hershey center in mississauga.
Oh really yeah.
That was a lot of raptors yeah.
He was going to come onto the show and talk about and uh very recently he was training uh guys out of montreal, so he has a very close relationship with canada.
I’M really looking forward to that interview tonight but, as he said in by email, just very recently, he’ll be back on uh, either next week or the week after okay cool, but he has.
He has a close connection to canada and training our prospects, nice nice.
Well, that’s great sorry, i interrupted someone was saying something about uh, it’s okay.
We were all still laughing about the horrible records of martin zero for 32, never even passed the second round.
Uh, i’m sorry! Honestly! I would, i don’t think i’d walk out to the ring with my guy.
Don’T worry, i’m gon na phone, i’m gon na phone in the corner.
What made you stop at 31.
, honestly after the 31st k like what i’m curious to know, what made him stop at that.
If that was the doctor, because he’s got brain damage well, yeah yeah! That’S i’m! Assuming i’m i’d love to hear if he can still speak properly, he went to sleep 31 times without wanting to wow went to bed 31 times without without wanting to, without wanting to i’ve, never heard it put like that without wanting to his button got switched off.
It’S like you switch the light, switch, that’s exactly what happened! Nobody! You know what i’m gon na bring up his box record and find out how his his longest fight longest, yeah yeah.
Let’S see what longest fight is right, that’d be hilarious.
You have it up right now, yeah, it’s very easy to bring up just the worst boxer in the world and what kind of pep talk? Are you giving yourself yeah? We got to talk to these girls.
Yo don’t pass out tonight in the ring.
No man uh keep your keep your chin tucked and uh your eyes.
Open.
Yeah definitely definitely have to give respect for climbing into the ring just just that, just the bravery of just getting into those ropes alone, especially when you know, there’s, there’s a high chance that you’re not going to win the fact that you still have the heart to Get in there again definitely have to have to give up respect for that.
You know, because, still, even with a record like that, just thinking about most people won’t won’t even get in there to begin with.
He lost it.
He lost to donnie pendleton nani peddleton, who was eight, who was eight 96 and two at the time at a minute.
Fourteen see the other.
The other issue i raised cedric was think of the fans, the fans going there, they’re paying x amount of dollars or quid to go.
Watch this night and yeah within 30 seconds.
Your boys knocked in.
Can you imagine if a whole fight card was that you’d be in and out in an hour ten fights? Oh, it’s unfortunate that not every boxer out there um becomes that superstar of that champion right.
It just goes to show you that there is another side of boxing and um it’s it’s not it’s not fame and fortunate man.
It’S it’s grinding day in and day out week after week, getting in there fighting, for maybe you know, five to 750 bucks a week.
Maybe a thousand – or you know, depending they’re, not getting big money, and then you know what they got: ta p.
These guys are going in with no corner people.
Why? Because they can’t peel off money for a train.
They can’t peel off money for a cut man, because then they’d have nothing when we were writing our business plan.
For this whole venture.
One of the interesting statistics that came up was how many, as a percentage of all the professional boxers in the world, how many actually make it, what we call a living wage and there was less than two percent wow less than two percent of all professional boxers.
In the world actually make a living wage, wow, wow, interesting, interesting, that’s um, wow, that’s yeah, some of the thing about something to think about.
Definitely yeah yeah, that’s uh! That’S incredible! Yeah and you think about just to put that into perspective.
We were comparing it to um like american uh young athletes, who want to become one day an nfl star play in the nfl and out of the something like 30 000 who graduate from a university every year.
Roughly speaking, 100 get drafted, i think 300 get drafted in total, but only 100 actually get invited to camp and out of that 100, how many go down to the farm team? No, exactly so i mean the numbers are staggering when it comes to professional sports.
In terms of who wants to be so, you know again hats off to these journeymen for staying in the game and uh.
You know because it must take a lot.
I mean we’ve talked about so many levels like the mental strength to go in night after night to face the fans, because i guarantee the fans are not going to be cheering they’re going to be booing.
Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
No, but you know what i do.
I do say this so even though they got these crazy losing records, you know it’s not like they’re getting knocked out every time.
You know some of these guys very low knockouts, which means they’re, bringing these guys a distance.
You know and and that’s what you’re trying to do for these prospects right, so they are doing they are doing their job.
They are, they are pushing uh, pushing the prospect by you know, showing him pressure uh holding uh the grinding.
You know they’re doing what boxers do for a season and you know we know they’re not gon na win.
So it’s just like it’s to give them the boost of confidence they need.
But you know it’s.
They call these guys because they get stuck.
You know last-minute fights, you don’t want to ruin a whole card.
You call up mr reliable, hey man.
Can you be here in six hours, yeah i’ll pay, a thousand bucks cool you get on a train, you go you jump in the ring.
You lose and go home, it’s it’s a shitty life yeah, but um without them.
How would we test our prospects? Okay, who who’s going to read that comment from carl? We have a 100 success rate with british boxers.
If they don’t make the grade in the uk, we send them to canada, okay, now mike out of those top boxers with the best losing records.
How many were british uh? Fifty percent? I believe i believe uh number one is british yeah, so carl i got it.
Yeah carol, carl, the worst.
The worst record belongs to the brits bud.
I believe that’s uh, 12, 279 and uh four i took it over took it over from um uh mr reggie strickland yeah.
He uh.
He took uh the number one spot off of reggie strickland.
So yeah that’s uh, kristen late, 12, 279 and nine, pretty good wow.
So there’s an awful lot of boxes in the uk and there’s a fair amount of champions over there there’s also a fair amount with losing records.
You know what there’s a fair amount that are doing doing the young generation of this sport justice by getting in that ring week after week and getting their ass kicked.
That’S what they’re there for that’s, what they’re doing they’re helping getting these guys seasoned they’re, helping them, get them ready, they’re, showing them the experience.
You know these guys are fighting guys that have one two three four fights you know get off: that amateur [, __ ] start thinking like a pro.
These guys are going to grind you they’re, going to hold you every single time that frustrates the hell out of people, man.
It can really throw somebody off the game and these young fighters, you know once they get thrown off their game.
You know it’s hard to recover, sometimes because you don’t have the experience, that’s what these journeymen are doing.
You know they’re providing these guys with the experience they need, so we can test them to see if they’re really and truly that prospect that we think they’re gon na be so after uh deontay wilder beats tyson fury, i guess uh the british heavyweights will have to Begin reclining, if you roll that ladder right, you know what i hope it’s a double knockout in the first round.
They both throw each other nasty shots and they both go down and don’t wake up.
That’D, be amazing! Amazing i mean i’m i’m looking forward to seeing uh.
You know anthony joshua win.
I am but i’m not.
I i’m.
I don’t like tyson fury.
I just don’t like him.
So uh he’s already beat he’s already he’s.
Not he’s not beat mentally he’s already checking out of the game.
He’S already said, i’ve got only a couple fights left in me when a boxer says that you know it’s it’s it’s time, man they’re they’re, pulling back.
He wants to sit back drink his booze.
You know bang his hookers and and all that kind of [ __ ].
It’S that’s that’s what it is we’re talking about tyson, fury and him him already kind of mentally bowing out and saying: hey.
I’Ve only got you know two three fights left in me: uh.
You know, let’s get them done, get them underway.
You know why.
What is he 30 something years old he wants to party, he wants that money man, he wants to sit, drink, bang, chicks and, you know be be the gypsy king man and you know what i don’t blame him.
You know who i like.
I like that nigerian kid: what’s his name right now, yo that guy has uh got a one of his clips is runner up for knockout of the year.
Oh really we profiled him go back guys to the sunday.
Knockout show uh it’s one of the first few.
Go check it out.
The clip is actually in the show.
You can see it.
Uh buddy kisses his knee.
Remember he’s still: okay nasty.
Now you could.
You could hear that shot from outside before you got into the [ __ ].
Yes, yes, yeah man that uh, that was nasty, that was, that was a corkscrew and a half and the guy kissed his knee before he even hit the mat like ridiculous, but uh yeah watch this kid man, effie and john those nigerians they’re coming out man.
They got some vicious hands and there there’s some some now, despite what carl says, there are some great young fighters coming out of america as well yeah and they have in the heavyweight division.
I’M talking about.
You got jared big baby anderson he’s on the he’s on the undercard on october, 9th yup yo.
Honestly, i like watching this kid fight man.
He comes through to chef up you a knockout every time i believe he’s undefeated too right.
Yes, he is uh.
He’S your man he’s, he looks really good 21 years old or something yeah he’s young he’s a young boy and uh.
You know he’s he’s, got the ability to put people to sleep and uh he’s, not a sluggish heavy.
You know what i mean he’s.
Not a heavyweight he’s got that uh he’s got that he moves like a cruiser.
He moves, you know fast, he’s quick uh.
You know he can stick and move real well and uh.
Yeah man he’s got, you know, thunder and lightning for hands.
You know he’s just putting people to sleep, you know and uh i mean i’m sure if carla was still awake after having all those drinks.
He said tonight.
He’D probably mention guys like joe joyce, but i mean realistically, those guys are moving on in age.
It’S too bad because the division’s been clogged up for a while.
Now these guys aren’t getting any younger, but the the americans and the nigerians are stepping up to the plate.
Yeah well, um, f.
What is it? Uh jared jared, uh, jared’s last fight was against uh jeremiah pencey.
That was only there was only 34 seconds of the second round.
Uh he’s fighting vladimir vl vladimir tyreshkin yeah yeah.
This should be a bit of a test for him.
Um vladimir has 22 or 23 fights under his belt.
Uh he’s 2201.
So you know this is going to be a test, for you know the big baby.
What’S what’s that? What’S that frenchman to uh tony tony, tony? Okay, oh tony! Okay! Yes, there’s another another guy, that’s uh! He might be on that undercard as well.
Actually that’s another! That’S another uh guy that i’ve i’ve enjoyed watching over over time.
You know the frenchman coming in there knocking people around uh yeah, you know and he’s 29 man he’s almost 30.
he’s 11-0 with nine ko’s uh.
You know he’s he’s he’s pretty vicious man guys.
I tell you, go: go google, this guy go.
Watch him on youtube.
He’S got you know, he’s got some ability, man to put people to sleep and uh.
You know what it’s just fun to watch he’s uh he’s, never fought off french soil, though so we’ll have to uh, we’ll have to see what happens so so i think the point of this was uh.
You know the heavy the heavyweight division.
If you ask me is going to turn around in 2022 and we’re going to see we’re some great great fights yeah we are, and you know what like i was talking with um with tokyo uh in last friday, uh on the panel we were discussing that uh.
You know like the heavyweight the heavyweight division was the the cream of the crop when it came to boxing and now now it belongs to you know the 140 to 168, like that’s, that’s the cream of the crop.
Those are the fun exciting fights to watch.
You know that’s where you get these guys getting in there now and you know between the two of them, throwing a thousand punches in a fight like crazy stuff right yeah, the heavyweight division is lackluster, it’s not what it used to be.
You know um lennox lewis is the last undisputed heavyweight champion man in 2003.
.
We’Ve never had an undisputed champion in 2000 uh in the fourth canadian.
Can he you mean canadian linux lewis? No, no, no lennox, lewis is british, but he has an adopted home country of canada thanks for witness of the medals.
But yes, you know what lennox lewis, yes, our last true undisputed heavyweight champion of the world we haven’t had one since him, we haven’t had one since the four belt era.
It’S time for this [ __ ] to happen it’s time for the heavyweight division to take boxing back and make it exciting again make it exciting again, a bit of trivia here who did who did lennox lewis beat to win the gold medal for canada at the Olympics who, who got the silver in that fight? Do you remember? Oh no, it was seven, not i! I thought it was you sick.
Well, somebody check it out that that that beat linux lewis, no, that lost the lenox lewis in the 88 olympics.
Who thought it was trivia question of the night here? It is uh.
Riddick bow medic bow yeah.
It was really cool.
Cedric cedric wins our trivia contest.
Hey, you know what he wins.
A nice hot steamy boulder shut the f up.
No, he wins it.
He wins! A chance to get my zone password did you get that by the way? Let’S see yes, yes, let me double check yeah.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Definitely, man all right, we’re up on that hour.
Um yeah, we’re there.
It’S uh it’s time.
It’S time.
It’S time to go, watch some fights fight fans watching around the world thanks for tuning in friday panel.
You know what it is: we’re going crazy with this [ __ ], so you don’t have to we’re gon na go watch fights.
Maybe we got ta go to work, work, work, work so that you can watch me and cedric on sunday pick the winners pick the winners exactly if you’re not dead.
Oh there’s, knocko’s trust me.
People are damn going to sleep for sure.
Well, like like.
I said my money’s on joshua knocking out you sick tomorrow night, honestly, i’m for the six months before the sixth round.
Think fight’s gon na be really good.
I’M looking forward to that too.
Yes, hopefully he fights better than his rap song on that.
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