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Hey: hey: we’re live, hey, guys, hey here, we are thank you once again for joining us.
On the friday night panel uh talk and fight, it’s going to be a great discussion.
We’Ve got neil o’deal joining us.
Uh, we’ve got christian and we’ve got mike uh.
Just for just to change it up, uh we’re gon na start off with a bit of uh history, courtesy of christian, but before we do, we have a quick, quick band because before going live, uh we are discussing the weigh-in between a couple of high-profile fighters uh, Who we enjoyed one in particular, one who mike has profiled on our show? Anyway, we were so to let our viewers in on uh, you know who we were discussing, uh i’ll.
Let mike take that away.
But after that brief discussion, let’s jump over to christian for his history and then then then we’ll get into our big boats, the ebony blonde bomber bridges, huge talk right now decide in the wind.
It’S it’s controversy! It’S huge! You know what! So what guys she stepped on the scale and weighed in in some sexy ass, lingerie man – and i mean she looked gorgeous nothing that yo honestly.
I have no problems with it, but apparently her opponent.
Does you know what, if you got it flaunt it? So what sell it? That’S? What it’s about at the end of the day, let’s be real! I watch this girl fight man, it’s it’s not a beauty contest man.
This girl can throw hands and she can knock people out man.
You know what she’s she’s, building her brand and she’s doing it great man.
Honestly, i love it.
I love everything about it and you know what she’s catching flak for it and to all them.
Haters out there shut up.
I know you’re gon na say nothing.
Oh god ease mike shut up, haters shut up.
This is made.
No.
This is an actual talking point mike, not just you going, i like chicks in lingerie.
This is an actual talking point, michael because what this has to do.
That’S fine and that’s fine as well, but this has opened up a talking point on how best to promote women’s boxing as a whole, just based on the fact that uh, you know, and courtney made a great the shannon courtney made a great point saying you know: I’M irish, i know but hey, but no but as you say, but courtney made a great point saying that you know katie taylor didn’t pave the way for us to go out here and talk about underwear, and you know what it does it comes down to.
How are we promoting women in sports in general and look what michaela had to say? Yo michaela said if she had tits the same way.
She’D do the same thing and she should be allowed to be sexy, not be sexy or be sexy when she wants like it’s, it’s totally up to them, and you know what i’m all for it too man.
You want to promote yourself, get people watching you listen.
Her fighting speaks for itself, hands down.
I, the the lingerie thing, has nothing to do with her ability to bang it out in the ring and knock people out man and that’s what this girl does and i think what you’re seeing is a dying form of marketing at this point in time, where you’re.
Just trying to rely on sex cells at this point and i get it yes, she can throw hands.
I understand what you’re saying, but i’m saying the entire approach to women in sports is changing and shifting dramatically you’re not going to see clarissa shields out there doing that you’re not going to see kelly harrington out there doing that you’re, not seeing katie traynor out there Doing that women are taking up are trying to be taken a lot more seriously in sport, and this kind of looks like a step backwards, just for the sake of trying to get more instagram followers.
Honestly 2021 is the year of women in sports in boxing right now, man honestly, we’ve got undisputed and unified champions all over the board and honestly, i don’t believe that a bit of lingerie on a scale is going to hurt or harm the upward progress that women’s Boxing is making in the year of 2021 at all, it’s just it’s being left behind, but it is not progressive, exact same thing as a guy getting on the scale in his boxer shorts, the same [ __ ].
It’S not it’s not, and you know what okay, what about the guys? What about the guys that get on hold the towel in front of themselves and pull their underwear off? And you know they’re standing there naked just behind you guys, holding a [, __ ] towel! Excuse my language, sorry, sorry, i got a little heated.
There got a little heat yeah! Well, because what you’re? Looking what you’re talking about at that point in time is you’re talking about posturing.
It’S not they’re, not doing it because they go.
You know it would be real sexy if i get out here in my little towel.
No that i mean that’s just posturing and that’s trying to get in the other guy’s head and it’s two completely different things and they’re, not equatable.
It’S it’s! A false equation is what you’re giving me on this one buddy and don’t get me wrong.
You know.
Did she look great when she was wearing yeah? Of course she did, but is it it’s not the way to promote women in sport? It’S not the way to normalize, seeing women in combative, combative contest.
Okay! Well, hang on.
We seem to be promoting it because of what he did.
So is that because a bunch of people sit at home and get turned on by it, is that why it’s? Because some guy’s getting turned on watching her step on a scale in lingerie who gives a [ __ ] man, let her let her step, let her step on whatever she wants man, it’s all about her ability in the ring man and listen.
She has that ability in the ring to knock people out man and honestly this shouldn’t even be talks this.
This is ridiculous.
The whole point is: is it’s out that neil weigh in buddy stop all i got ta say here, i’m just listening to you guys checking this out.
You know what i got to say about this.
I think it’s fine honestly.
I got no problem with it.
I think that it’s bringing uh the women’s boxing more more fans to women’s boxing, be it men or female, like it, can be either way to me, i i mean she she’s, just she’s she’s to me, she’s not doing anything wrong.
That’S the way i look at it: she’s just making the sport a little more sort of viewable to the to the public so to speak and she’s bringing in more fans.
I’M sure there’s a lot more guys watching women’s boxing after seeing that display.
You know what i’m saying so you know as much as much as you guys are ganging up on me a little bit on this one.
I am not alone in my thoughts because you saw the viewers our viewers are weighing in here from saying uh that you know if they want equality, that’s not the way to do it, and if people want to see women in their underwear, there’s platforms for that.
As well yeah, i feel like this undermines women’s boxing yeah, because you know what we have been in contact.
We have been talking.
Yes, i do see.
I do see your point of view, but at the end of the day really is it hurting them? No! No! No, i just don’t think we’re going to visit too much longer it’s what the men do.
It’S, what the men do, the men get out there in their skivvies and they do this, and everyone sees how ripped they are and they do it.
For that reason too.
So, honestly, honestly, honestly, it’s only a problem.
It’S only a problem because she’s well in doubt in the chest is probably the only reason why, because she decided to come out in a bra instead of a sports bra, like all the other women do well say, take a look at what what ontario here and Any other beach in in europe, quite frankly, uh as men are allowed to go topless.
So are women allowed to go topless, but do they weigh in topless? No, so i mean they’re not taking it to that extreme they’re, they’re they’re down to their skivvies.
Just like the man and uh.
You know they shouldn’t really be an arguing point uh, but i mean do.
Did i enjoy the weigh-in? The answer is yes, um.
You know on that on that note guys i do have to jet off.
As i told you earlier, i have to leave this call earlier um, so i’ll leave it with you.
I know christian’s gon na do a bit of a history lesson, for you climb guys down a little bit and uh and uh and listen enjoy the rest of the the chat, because there’s some great bouts coming up this weekend and probably some great knockouts coming our Way for our sunday discussion anyway, lads i got ta leave, have yourselves a good conversation and uh keep it civil.
Definitely we’ll try.
If not, if not we’re going to be knuckling it up.
That’S good! Exactly well, definitely listen! I know where both you guys are at hey.
Don’T forget, see you later guys have a good one.
Okay, so i will.
I am going to jump in here on our history for uh the day now this is a bit of localized history for uh.
Our toronto viewers – so i know last bell’s coming to us from britain, so you’re gon na have to uh you’re gon na have to bear with me for a moment or two on this one here so today i want to bring you an actual article here.
That was written uh back in 1920.
It was a.
I was a commentary, uh article done in the toronto star and it was written about the mayor of toronto.
At the time, uh someone by the name of tommy church tommy church was wildly popular in toronto.
Back in the early, you know going up a century ago now at this point and he was elected seven times in a row now the person who wrote this article was obviously a big fan of boxing and not a fan of tommy church’s.
So i’m gon na read you verbatim this article and then we’ll get to the end of this year, but i think you’ll enjoy this mike as well neil as well here.
So this has to have here.
We go so mayor.
Church is a keen lover of all sporting contests.
He is an enthusiast over boxing hockey and all of the manly sports.
Any sporting event that attracts voters as spectators numbers, his worship as one of the patrons if marbles leap, frog, tic-tac-toe contests, were viewed by citizens of a voting age.
The mayor would enthusiastically be present due to the youth of competitors.
The mayor reluctantly refrains from attending all of the above mentioned sports, the other night, the mayor and i attended boxing bouts at massey hall.
No, we did not go together, but we were both there.
The mayor’s entrance was impressive.
He remained standing for some time bowing to his friends and people who knew him who’s that asked the man next to me.
Oh that’s! The mayor.
I replied down in front.
He called called the man next to me.
The mayor enjoyed the first bout hugely during it.
He shook hands with everyone around him.
He didn’t seem to know when the bout stopped as he was still shaking hands when the bell rang, for the last time, [, Music, ], sorry between the rounds, the mayor stood up and looked over the crowd.
What’S he doing counting the house? Ask the guy next to me: no he’s letting the sport loving people look at their sport, loving mayor, i said down in front, shouted the man next to me in a rude voice during the next two bouts.
The mayor recognized a number of acquaintances in the crowd he waved to all of them.
He also shook hands with all of the soldiers present in uniform shaking hands, with some of them two or three times just to make sure he was seen doing so.
Scottie listener was taking a bad beating in the next bout and the mayor’s eyes, never strayed to the ring, but he did applaud vericity uh.
Whenever the crowd did, he turned his.
He turned to his right-hand, neighbor and saying listeners.
Beating him.
Isn’T he and his mayor looked at him piteously i thought listener was the better fighter said the mayor satisfied looking eagerly around for someone else to shake hands with, at the end of the fight the referee consulted with the three judges at ringside and hoisted the hand Of lisner’s opponent, as a sign of victory, the mayor then stood up and said.
Well, i’m glad listener won exactly.
Is that really the mayor? That’S the guy! Next to me, that is his worship, the sporting mayor, i repres.
I replied down in front yelled the man.
Next to me in a rough voice, so it looked as though the mayor enjoyed the last bout best of all.
Of course he didn’t see it, but he discovered several people who he had not shaken hands with and also there was a great deal of booing and cheering during the bout.
Sometimes the mayor would absent-mindedly boo when the crowd cheered, but as always, he righted himself instinctively at once.
He seemed to be able to shift the boo into a cheer with the same ease and grace of shoving a fort into low gear.
At the close of the fights the mayor, absent-mindedly said, meetings dismissed and dashed for his motor car thinking that he was at a city council meeting the mayor is the mayor is just as interested in hockey as he is boxing if cootie fighting or swedish pinocchio or Australian boomerang hurling ever taken up by the voters, you can count on the mayor being ringside for a seat, for he loves all sport – the toronto star march 13, 1920 written by ernest hemingway – oh my god, wow no way so for some of our viewers who are Not local and maybe don’t know this ernest hemingway the the story.
American author actually spent a few years in toronto and from 1920 to 1924 he started off as just a stringer, but then was a staff writer for the toronto star and eventually a foreign correspondent for the toronto star from about 1920 to 1924, when he was in His early 20s and you can kind of see his writing style start to take shape through some of his articles that he did for anyone who’s interested the toronto star does have an entire archive of the hemingway papers, but those were his thoughts on.
He was a noted boxing fan and not a fan of tommy church, but that’s our local boxing history for the day, wow wow, that’s uh, that’s interesting! Ernest hemingway yeah! That was cool, no, that that very, very um, very interesting christian, great great peace, yeah great great piece of history.
All right mikey take us into this weekend’s bouts.
What do we got mikey? What are you looking forward to uh? I’M looking forward to all three of these cards – man – oh getting these cards, we did.
We’Ve we’ve got jaren boots ennis versus mr sergey lippinets.
I can’t wait to see this fight honestly um i’ve profiled jaren before he’s undefeated he’s young he’s hungry he’s fast.
You know he’s got great great strength in his hands.
Man and you know his defense is on point.
I can’t wait to see this fight.
You know um, i’m excited for the entire card.
Actually uh, there’s some good fights on there.
I don’t know if you guys have uh checked it out yet, and i don’t know if you even know who these guys are christian, you heard of any of them uh, actually well only the ones you’ve profiled on the show.
As you know, i spend a lot of time as of late uh, with my nose buried deep in the amateur tournaments in the run-up to the olympics, so uh.
Why don’t you pretend that i am like some of the viewers and not sure what you’re talking about? Well again, tell me: what’s going on mikey, okay, well, you know ennis and his faces his most difficult test in his pursuit of a world title shot as he headlines, showtime’s championship boxing against the former world champion sergey lipitz right this this contest.
I can’t wait to see it man.
This is going to be a battle.
You know, um living, that’s he’s he’s got he’s, got great speed too.
He’S got great hands and uh.
You know this is going to be a big test for jaron and you know it’s.
It’S going to it’s definitely definitely going to be an epic battle.
It’S going to be exciting for sure you know, i don’t think it’s going to go all the way.
That’S uh! That’S my prediction.
I think it’s going to end in uh in a nice knockout like usual fashion.
That’S what i hope it’s going to.
Definitely definitely i don’t know you can just say it’s not going all the way.
Give me a round where’s it happening.
Oh, oh man, you know what i’m saying, i’m saying it’s not going past the fifth: it’s going to be a war, it’s definitely going to be stoppage in the fifth.
Is your call? No i’m saying it’s gon na be a full-blown knockout.
I’M saying i’m saying it’s a ko buddy, i’m saying it’s a ko, i’m going with my boy boots uh.
I got ta back a man.
I profiled him on the show before i believe you know he’s he’s a big.
You know he’s a rising star.
Definitely, i think, we’re gon na see big things from him from him in the future 100.
So i’m totally backing my boy boots in this fight uh.
Yes, it is his biggest test and i believe you know he’s gon na he’s gon na come out uh.
The victor in this one for sure um, you know the rest of the card.
What about what you know? Do you guys know any any of these guys? Yes, yes mikey! Yes, i like ennis myself as well jared anders i like him, yeah yeah, undefeated, fantastic fighter.
Moving up the ranks uh, this is going to be his toughest task.
Definitely uh limpets is no uh pushover, as we all know no world champion, but uh ennis, and it’s definitely i i agree with you mikey on that one.
I think it’s gon na go.
Maybe four or five rounds – and this will probably hopefully knock him out.
Um he’s got 24 knockouts.
What out of 26 bouts? I mean he is a knockout uh expert.
As a welterweight, it’s def! It’S definitely it’s definitely gon na, be it’s going to be going to be a great fight, definitely going to be a great fight.
You know, um we got.
We got evan holyfield and nicholas compton uh on that card as well uh evan holyfield, you know he’s super welter, he’s 5-0 right now.
Uh, that’s gon na be another good fight to watch.
Then we got uh mark um.
I i guess it’s meg mcsale! That’S! I think that’s my channel yeah mark mcsale he’s 21-0 right now and he’s fighting.
I like him mark mcsale.
Take him.
Yes, definitely definitely uh! It’S going to be an epic battle with him in pablo cruz uh.
You know i find that they kind of have uh equal fighting styles and uh.
You know i believe they do have similar fighting styles.
I think it’s going to be another epic battle.
This card is actually, you know, gearing up to be pretty pretty awesome and honestly uh.
We got um also on that we got uh, stannis and dilrone or yeah.
I can’t don’t even know how to pronounce this guy.
We got uh uh, yeah uh, sten, stanton, stannis’s, standardness standardness versus thomas delormy.
Yeah, that’s going to be on our fight to you, man, we got it.
We got four belts going this weekend.
Oh yeah man there’s four belts up.
So, let’s let’s walk through them.
I wan na hear predictions from you guys on on these four belts.
So let’s take calm yourself, steal yourselves for a moment, shannon courtney and abandy bridges.
I don’t want to talk about the weigh-in anymore, who’s taking that fight.
That’S the wba bantamweight title up who’s, taking the fight lingerie aside blonde bomber, all the way in that one, i’m like i’m liking, uh bridges.
I think she’s uh she’s she’s uh she’s gon na she’s gon na prevail in that one and uh yeah with you know.
She looks really good today, she’s gon na join the judges.
Is it going to the judges? Is it going to the mat, what’s happening, mikey, honestly, honestly? Oh my, do you have a quick question for you mikey, shannon courtney? Was she a replacement for the original girl that bridges was supposed to fight? I heard that she wasn’t the original.
Was she the original? No, no, it’s the original yeah.
This is okay.
It’S been in talks for a while, honestly, i believe it’s i believe it’s going to go the distance which, which honestly, if it goes if it goes to the judges it might, it might heavily weigh in courtney’s favor.
But if you know what, if it doesn’t, go the distance and so bridges doesn’t want to leave this with the judges, yeah bridges doesn’t want to leave this with the judges.
That’S that’s usually her fighting cell anyway, man she’s called the blonde bomber.
For a reason.
You know it’s it’s just it’s just the way it is man and okay, so she has the ability she has the ability.
I believe you know if it goes the distance i’m gon na give it to courtney uh if it doesn’t go the distance i’ll, give it to belgium yeah.
So let’s talk the wbo middleweight title up next savannah marshall versus femke, hermans marshall.
All the way, martin no hesitation, hey, i like that one too marshall, all the way, mario marshall, i don’t back her 100 savannah marshall, honestly she’s great she’s, great uh yo.
I backed 100 percent.
She she definitely definitely is gon na.
Take this one and i i believe, she’s gon na take it with these.
I don’t think she’s gon na leave it in the judge’s hands.
I think i think that belt’s gon na be over quicker than it gets going.
Okay, so a quick finish on the wbo middleweight title yeah all right.
So let’s move back down to uh the card.
You were just talking about on that one where we’ve also got the ibf super flyweight title on german and sarah versus jonathan rodriguez.
Oh, that um, that i don’t call it’s too close to call for me man, i i don’t um, i don’t.
I don’t know if i can really call that one man, i don’t know if i want to even touch that one.
I kind of i kind of like i kind of like both these guys.
You know it’s a toss up.
Yeah yeah, either way they’re they’re, both they’re, both uh experienced fighters.
You know they both got ring experience uh.
They both know what it takes to uh.
You know come up with that victory, you know what they both have.
I believe it’s uh one loss under their belt.
Each uh, i believe i believe, rodriguez, has 10 less fights but uh honestly, maybe 10 or 12 less fights.
But realistically you know if they it’s gon na, be a close one.
That’S definitely gon na be a close one.
Okay! Well, we’ve got one more belt on on the line going going tomorrow and that’s going to be the wbo light heavyweight title, joe smith versus maxim.
Vlasov neil, why do you start us off on this one? What do you got? What are your thoughts? Well, that that’s uh? That’S a heck of a fight, i’m really looking forward to that fight, uh joe smith, jr and uh velasof, i think uh joe smith.
Jr! Might have the upper hand in this one uh he’s got a lot of experience, you know and uh.
I just.
I just think that in the end he’s going to pull it off, it’s not, i don’t think there’s going to be.
I think it’s going to go.
Probably the distance and maybe win by a split decision or something um, but it’s definitely going to be a great fight.
You know, and the winner of that, like we’ve talked about on uh earlier on, we were talking about uh uh, the uh, the guy uh uh, better, be off better, be off so better, be off better, be off we’ll, probably end up fighting the winner of that Uh that battle there between those two guys.
So it’s it’s going to be.
You know it.
I i like i, like i like joe smith jr in this one.
I, like, i think by far that, like the elder statesman on this one, like he’s, got 48 fights under his belt to uh junior’s 29 right this.
This fight was but this fight was originally supposed to get off in february, but uh vlad tested positive for coronavirus.
Right, yeah and honestly smith, you know he wanted to kick off his 2021, where his 2020 concluded.
You know in the in the in the bubble where he knocked out former world champion or beat former.
No, i think, he’s knocking for him.
No, this is a vacant.
This is this: is a vacant belt.
I know i know i know what i’m saying is is he’s coming off of uh.
You know knocking out alvarez and then also um a unanimous decision over uh, dimitri bible.
So you know he’s he’s he’s on an upward battle.
You know, honestly exactly, i believe i believe joe smith’s taking this all the way, but i don’t think i don’t think vlad has got, got the got the gas in the tank or the tools in the shed to be able a record of 45 and three and You don’t think he has the tools in the shed, not not not not against smith man.
I think smith has a little bit uh, so i think smith has the edge man here.
I think smith is um the more talented fighter.
I do believe that okay, so is this going to go the distance, or is this that’s it yeah? I think i think it’ll go the distance.
I think the this one you’re calling both tough mikey.
As you know, christian they’re, both top fighters they’re both both these.
Both these guys got, you know, heads like bricks, but they can yeah, they got chins man, they got chins, they can take shots, they’ve proven it time and time again, and you know what, when you get two guys in the ring like that, you know it always Makes for an epic battle, that’s 100 percent.
What we like, and you know what it’s i give it to smith man.
I think i think smith takes it all the way for sure guys.
Really.
I, like i like smith, in that one too as well and, like i say, there’s going to be a may first, there’s that upcoming fight with uh beval and craig richards for the wba title.
So eventually, either one of those fights better bef is going to have to fight either be ball.
I would think bevel’s going to take that one and uh retain the title and then maybe it’ll be be ball against joe smith jr.
Who knows right? You know what i mean honestly, one of the fights one of the big fights on that kardachi that that i’m interested in watching is jared.
Big baby anderson is on this card as well.
Fighting uh, carpenty, honestly jared big baby anderson.
His last fight was in the bubble.
You know wonderful, knockout man, what what? What a wonderful knockout honestly, i can’t wait to see jared big baby anderson on this card as well.
It’S gon na be great guys watch out for this guy.
I’Ve been telling you i’ve done i’ve.
You know i profiled this guy on my show before you know, i think i believe he’s uh 9-0.
Now uh i’ve been watching this guy.
You know when he first started his career.
This guy is an awesome heavyweight man he’s going to be he’s going to be something to look out for in the future man, because he’s still young in his career.
You know under 10 fights – and you know, he’s going to make he’s going to make some some waves in the heavyweight division.
Man honestly he’s gon na he’s he’s got the ability to put gold around his waist.
That’S for sure man every time i watch this guy fight.
He’S super impressive super impressive, well you’re, causing you’re, causing some controversy here mike as our friends across the pawn over at last bell boxing chat, so he doesn’t agree with you about the blonde bomber thinks that she’s never fought anyone on courtney’s level.
She hasn’t uh.
So i have a disagreement there grieving you on joe smith and uh savannah marshall yeah.
Yes, definitely but he’s looking for a prediction for you here: uh conor ben, oh connor, ben hey wants a prediction: what’s the prediction uh, i believe i believe uh honestly i got ta go with.
I got ta go with ben man.
I got ta go with connor ben, you know, he’s he’s honestly he’s a rising star.
Definitely you know he’s 17-0 with 11 kos he’s real impressive.
I love watching connor ben fight man.
I think connor ben’s taking this and i don’t believe it’s going.
I don’t believe it’s going full distance man.
I think it’s going to end in a nice, a nice fashion, ko like only connor ben, can do honestly.
I love watching connor ben fight man.
I believe he’s gon na, take it to him uh.
I believe that it will, it will go, it will go late into the rounds.
It’S not gon na be an early stoppage uh, but i i believe i believe ben’s gon na end it.
I believe it’s not gon na go to the judges.
I believe the last bell says it’s going to the judges.
Well, we’ll say he agree all points for the win.
He thinks.
Well, you know what honestly, if it does go the distance he’ll definitely win on points man, because he’s gon na win the rounds.
Man, that’s for sure, connor ben is an exciting fighter to watch.
Man he’s that young and hungry up and comer man.
You know he’s he’s trying to make he’s trying to make that name for himself.
Man he’s trying to he’s trying to be more than the up-and-coming man he’s trying to be the talked about.
You know he wants to be that guy and he’s got damn man he’s got the tools to do it.
He gets it.
He gets better every single time.
I watch him, he gets better every single time and honestly, it gets more and more impressive, and i just wondering when, when he’s going to stop impressing people man, because honestly he he gets, you know it’s it’s exciting every time man and the way he finishes is His guiding he’s a great fighter honestly we’re gon na see lots of this guy man and and yeah man he’s taking it for sure.
Honestly, i want to see him seventh, seventh, eighth.
Seventh.
Eighth round he’s gon na he’s gon na end it that’s right! Yeah! I like connor, i like conor ben in that one too guys i think connor ben’s, going to take that one down.
Although i do like samuel vargas because he resides in toronto, he lives.
I got ta like him, you know what i mean and he has fought some some serious guys over his career.
I mean uh, he fought amir khan, he’s fought, um errol spence, he’s fought, uh uh he’s fought danny garcia, you know, so he does have a little bit of experience on ben but like mikey was saying ben just looks really young really hungry and uh.
He looks like i think, he’s gon na take that one down like mikey, was saying – probably six, seventh eighth round somewhere right there, i think, he’s gon na.
If he’s gon na, take it down, it’s gon na be late.
It’S gon na be late in the fight man.
It’S not gon na, be it’s not gon na be early because, honestly, marcus is a well-schooled fighter.
Man he’s stuck in there with some of the biggest that’s a nice way of saying old.
Yeah he’s a school fan.
Listen, you cannot.
You cannot count out older guys who are in the ring, because you know what they’ve seen it all they have tricks.
They have.
They have things that only come with ring experience and being time you know.
Having that time in the ring man, there are those little tips and tricks that these guys develop.
You know to fight the guys that are faster to fight the guys that have better stamina to fight.
You guys punch harder.
You know you develop this, and this is how you have these long careers.
Man is by developing tools to stay alive.
You know what you can’t.
You can’t count on vargas, though, because you know what he could end it.
He does have power in his hands to end this with a shot.
So that was the argument that i was using for blasoff a few minutes ago.
Right, the 45 and 3 versus the 29.
Yes, yes, yes, just as long as you hear it, while you’re saying it: okay, [, Laughter, ], oh man, honestly and truthfully and um yes, uh carl you’re, listening aj versus fury.
Does it happen? Yo man yeah? Well, when fury sobers up that’s what i’m gon na believe.
That’S gon na comment.
Fury puts down the fight that still have not worked out.
They still have not worked out the venue deal and if that venue deal doesn’t happen, the fight contract is void yeah.
So they will have to go back to getting this fight deal underway again, which you know what, if this, if, if the location deal doesn’t happen, i don’t see this fight ever happen, because, honestly, we’ve waited so long already.
We’Ve got all these heavyweights right now that are lined up to fight these guys after these fights happen, that’s right exactly there’s a ton of them waiting for these two guys.
Yes, we’re! The heavyweight division is on hold right now because of this, but it’s a year of unification, it’s a year of undisputing.
Everybody wants to see the heavyweight division undisputed.
They want one champion so that there’s no no discrepancies on who the best in the world is at heavyweight, and you know what i’m all for that.
But let’s get it going already man, you know what i mean by the time.
This fight actually gets underway in these contracts, we’re almost in another year.
You know what i mean this fight’s going to happen late late summer, and then you know what that’s a whole year that we’ve had these guys.
You know yeah they’re, just arguing over uh over money or something location.
No, no, no! No! No! No! No! It’S! No! It’S just a site deal.
It’S a location, location right! It’S just it’s! This was when it was originally penned for saudi.
Why don’t you just fight in the backyard get it over with? It was originally penned for saudi arabia.
It’S not happening.
Apparently i don’t know what happened to that deal.
It fell apart, but they had they had 30 days to sign a new site deal or the fight was off.
So i don’t know if we’re at that 30 days or that 30 days has come out very soon.
So we’re gon na hear something about this.
They are super quiet about it, they’re they’re, keeping it secret, because the minute that this happens, the boxing world’s gon na explode, because this is what we’ve been waiting for.
This fight needs to happen because we need those titles to be undisputed.
We need one champion man and honestly it’s the battle of the brits.
We need to see this [ __ ] anyway, man yeah yeah.
Absolutely.
Definitely.
Definitely.
Definitely i love it man, but so it’s uh 30 days up sunday.
The 30 days on that deal is coming to an end day after tomorrow.
Well, there you go so that means they have day after tomorrow to make that deal happen or else that contract that they signed for this fight to take place is dead, yeah and the argument the excuse to this point has been.
Oh, we can’t say anything yet because we have an nda in an agreement that, when it’s announced it’ll be a joint announcement at the same time.
So as long as ball, barum and eddie heard are never seen in the same room.
At the same time, they’re fine yeah, yeah, honestly, i i can’t wait.
There’S there’s a lot of fights, there’s a lot of heavy weights.
Man i want to see you know we we got, we got, we got lots happening, but we just need this.
We need this fight to get underway.
Man, that’s that’s what we need it’s it just has to happen.
I can’t wait for it to happen.
Hopefully we hear about you know we’ll probably hear something.
Monday morning, it’ll probably be released monday morning, we’ll hear the deals done boom.
Well, they’ve only got the sunday to do a deal so it’ll either be sunday night or monday morning.
You’Ll hear the show, monday morning, monday morning, they’re either going to be they’re either going to tell us it’s on or it’s off and if it’s off, then you know what let’s start making other fights happen.
You know what all right, these other guys get in there and start fighting.
You know what i mean: stop waiting.
Oh there’s, a lineup of guys who want both of them yeah and there’s, and we have guys that are mandatory fights for these guys right now.
That’S right absolutely right, like it’s, you know yeah! I can’t.
I can’t wait man.
I can’t wait.
Oh it’s great! So yeah! These are all the events going on honestly, there’s some big big big events, um honestly uh, one of my guys that i’ve profiled watch out for duke regan he’s on the uh smith and blas off guard.
I like this kid man he’s young he’s hungry he’s.
One of these up and coming prospects with under 10 fights under his belt, you know got to watch his kid man he’s very exciting, he’s going to be on that uh smith flats off guard, so check him out.
Trust me you’ll, like watching this kid fight.
Man he’s very exciting, very fast.
You know great defense.
Man check him out, definitely very cool yeah um other than that i sign off guys uh neil, do you have anything before we finish off uh like uh neil? Did you have anyone that you wanted to cover this evening or anything you’re looking forward to in the great big wide world of fights? Well, i just wanted to ask you guys a little bit about your opinion on all these old-time retired fighters coming out of uh coming out of retirement.
There’S all these fights now, like you see this uh julio cesar chavez, jr versus anderson silva really yeah.
You know what i mean like what is this coming to now and then you know one of the old timers matches for the nfl all right, exactly wait.
What about? What about oscar de la hoya coming out of retirement, apparently he’s going to fight a ufc fighter? Now, well i mean really when it comes down to are any of these guys coming out of retirement? No are any of them.
Having actual fights answer.
Also, what do they have? Have you guys heard anything about the uh, the pacquiao uh terence crawford thing? I hear it’s uh almost set to go.
What are you guys thinking? Do you think this is a good move for pacquiao? No, no! No! I don’t like it at all.
Honestly.
Honestly.
Pacquiao should have fought um uh.
What’S his name conor mcgregor, he should have taken that deal.
Mcgregor mcgregor wanted to fight pacquiao yeah, no doubt that disappeared uh when he lost to um.
What’S his name over in ufc, there yeah sorry uh, whatever his name is that deal went away with pacquiao yeah.
You know what yes there’s all these there’s all there’s pacquiao pacquiao’s, a legend he’s.
You know: yeah he’s gon na die in the ring, but he’s gon na die in the ring.
He’S never gon na retire.
He’S gon na die in that ring.
You know he’s also a senator in the philippines.
Yes, he is a senator and what he’s the only easy, only eight eight division champion ever yeah yeah.
Certainly yes, yeah yeah, the only one, but you know what honestly he should he should like.
Honestly.
He should hang it up.
Freddie roach has his next filipino fighter that he’s training in la right.
Now, though, yes, yes, humor martial, yes and right now, there’s a bit of controversy going on, because the uh filipino olympic squad wants him in thailand at the national training camp with the rest of the team, where freddie roach is going.
Why don’t you guys just send one of your coaches over here to train him uh up for the olympics and he will just stay in l.
a? But now the problem is, is the coach that they were going to send from the philippines is having visa problems to get into the us? So they don’t have a national coach and they’re still trying to figure out they’re trying to convince him to come.
Join the rest of the national team, but oh man, it’s that’s a whole lot.
That’S a whole other side of things.
That’S a whole nother friday night panel talk, but that’s there you go well as we get closer to the olympics.
I will drag you guys down into the world of amateur fights.
Once again, oh, hey, listen! I find i find a lot of these up and coming fighters.
Man from the amateurs believe me, i watch the amateur rank.
You know like some of these guys that i’ve come on.
I just debut.
I just debuted amari jones, who just had his debut last weekend with a wonderful finish, wonderful knockout.
I believe it was about a minute 30 seconds.
His opponent didn’t even have enough time to break a sweat before i’m already tucked him in and put him in the bed like great, like i’m watching these young guys man, these young, guys, there’s a lot of talent coming up man all throughout the world.
You know everywhere: europe, germany, japan, mexico.
You know north america there’s lots of talent, man there’s a lot of talented youth coming into this sport right now and they’re, really taking it really taking it serious and honestly, we’re gon na see all these talent pools in the olympics, man – that is literally you know.
That’S that’s! That’S where we draft from man, that’s where all these top promoters are drafting from they drafted from the olympics, man.
This is where we find these awesome fighters.
You know we were talking just today on the olympic uh update that you know uh.
When you go there, the exposure provided to young athletes by the olympics.
You know increased exposure means increased access to opportunity, means increased funds, definitely plain and simple plain and simple.
The olympic athlete has so so many resources, it’s it’s uh, it’s unreal, it’s it’s! It’S unreal.
Man like they, the resources they have and the training facilities that they have well depends on.
Where uh, who your national olympic committee, is exactly if you’re talking about the us or here or great britain, ireland yeah, absolutely, yes, you know, go back and watch our segment from today on the olympics.
We talked a little bit about irish magnol who’s, a filipina boxer uh, who you know spent her days.
You know planting corn and harvesting rice to help her parents buy sardines and noodles.
So not everybody has that same opera access to opportunity and that’s why things like the games are so important for especially athletes who are coming from uh developing nations, because that kind of exposure you’re not necessarily getting that at home.
So you know it comes to.
You know it’s a spectrum like everything else: it’s a spectrum, we’ve got the rich, we’ve got the not so rich and we’ve got everybody else.
You know what, but listen a true olympian makes do with whatever they have.
You know what oh, hey and they’re all and they’re all dedicated, because you know rio, 2016 uzbekistan took uh, took the podium more than anyone else.
Well, they walked away with the most medals in the boxing tournament.
These guys aren’t training in a multi-million dollar gym.
You know so yeah you’re right they’re, you know, you know what they might they might be.
Now it comes down to the strength of the program.
Uh well, actually, um.
The head of the aipa just recently announced that tashkent uh, the capital of uzbekistan, is going to be the 2023 world championship site.
So i’m sure they will be putting a little bit of boxing infrastructure in over the next couple of years in uh.
In advance of that tournament, but i’m just saying you know it’s – it doesn’t always come from the country with the most money, you’re you’re right yeah, i’m agreeing with you our viewer carl, yes, giving a shout out last belt boxing.
You know what he does have a great point: man great britain, does have a strong team for the olympics and yes, eddie hearn is definitely already sniffing around.
Believe me he’s.
I want to talk to you about ben whittaker, not not today, but that’s the next time.
We get you on here, we’ll actually get you on the chat i want to.
I want to hear your thoughts on ben whittaker.
Okay, definitely you know what i honestly i want to.
We should.
We should probably extend an invitation out to uh to carl man.
We should try and get carl that’s his thoughts.
I want to hear on ben whitaker.
I want to hear carl’s thoughts because he’s he is across the pond with.
Yes, he is across the pond.
He is across the pond.
He has his own show.
You know.
Last spell boxing chat, i’m trying to get on there, you know uh, so we can mix it up and and then talk to him we’re trying to work something out through our schedules.
Definitely i’d like to invite him on here to you know, chat with us in in canada and definitely get his thoughts on on all this man.
Honestly, we’ll get some transatlantic opinions.
Yeah he’s agreed, so definitely we’re going to set it up.
We’Re definitely going to set it up, carl carl i’ll be in touch man.
I got you on facebook, man, we’ll message and uh we’ll definitely pin something in there, man and uh, and we’ll get it going.
Man honestly right now: okay! Well, i think that about wraps it up for this evening guys, thank you so much as always.
Neil thank you for stepping in to join us this evening.
A pleasure thanks a lot for having me guys as always check out neil the deal check out knuckle up with mike orr at four and uh mike.
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