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EPISODE: Episode 12
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Hello boxing fans around the world welcome once again to another episode of the friday night panel on talk and fight and boy are we glad to have tim witherspoon back in the audience with us? You’Ve been in the hospital you’ve been in the hospital, but uh you’re back in fight and form and as a matter of fact, i see you have a new youtube channel too.
So you got a lot of things on the go: yeah um yeah a friend.
Well, i was at my real quick.
I was at my son’s gym and a guy by the name of brian.
I forgot his last name, but he’s he’s from up north past new york, um and um.
You know he had a lot of ideas.
He’S a he’s.
A guy that we was just talking about him that uh and stuff he’s marketing, stuff and uh.
He invited me to the hospital and just with the people he said he was trying to build the wooden spoon name up so um i said.
Oh, i think that’s pretty cool.
Let’S, let’s go so i got off my lazy, butt and went up, and now i like it, so i’m just waiting for things to get better and better.
It seems like it’s going to.
It’S think.
Simplex is going to be a really good thing.
Oh yeah, hey mike how you doing glad to have you on board thanks for joining us on the panel as usual, always always check out the fireplace you got a fireplace now one one of us is making money to get involved with this here with this year’s Show so we could bring a lot of follow followers um, like he’s, like you said he found out about the youtube channel uh.
We did it we’re doing pretty good um, i’m gon na start um teaching doing teaching uh people lessons and stuff.
Did you see it right? I’M gon na start having little segments about how you box and stuff like that um and what started it was uh me trying to get a job with anthony joshua.
Like i said me and my daughter uh met him several times in.
In the uk he’s a really nice guy when she was a baby, he helped me on the on the on the pram, the train with him.
We sat down and talked for her like a half an hour, and then i met him at events.
He’S a really nice guy, he don’t deserve um.
He deserves the best because he’s a nice guy.
I heard he was in trouble before i think as an analyst and as a kid, but he he overcame that and he and he got into boxing and stuff like that so um.
I can really help him.
I can really help him out i’ll.
Tell you this tim.
He he’s one of these boxers who yep uh got in a bit of trouble as a young, fella um.
He got a bit of street fighting and he admits it uh.
He got into a bit of trouble uh, because police found him with some weed, so he got in a bit of trouble.
It sucks it sucks that we say that now you know it’s like back in the day, 20 years ago i was like oh yeah.
He was caught with weed that was bad there.
That was bad.
No, i know no, it’s like you call up and your dispensary comes and drops it off to you.
I know that’s hearing everybody got it, everybody got it.
Everybody go to the place.
Yeah there’s a store like it blows my mind, there’s a store.
You can go to to buy weed.
You know like in canada, they’re like no, no, oh, you got america too.
They got them everywhere.
My son go.
They got them everywhere.
Everything everywhere, man, it’s everywhere everywhere, a couple of guys that i’m associated with they go there and get it every uh i haven’t.
I haven’t uh been involved with the marijuana in like about a month and three weeks, and now i feel like i don’t really want it like when i was sick, uh like i don’t want to drink.
I feel i like the feeling of not really uh being clean and having that yeah.
I i kind of like it because i’m getting things done, i clean the house up, i’m bullying my daughter around making sure [ Laughter, ], making sure she doing homework, and i kind of like that.
I kind of like that.
But but i’m not saying i might i might go, i need something maybe to relax me in the future.
I don’t know, got ta get a nice sativa.
Well, you know what a sativa you got to go next time.
You get it.
You get a nice sativa.
It’Ll make you sure you get stuff done.
Oh, is that where i’m wrong, that’s marijuana yeah! This is no.
This is brian right here hold on this.
Is the guy hold on graham? How are you brian? I know he got great.
I know i know the wall.
Mr bryant hold on hold on hold on.
Let me put you on the bryant you’re up on the side, i’m on the pod, i’m on the podcast every friday at seven.
I can’t talk you that long, but they want you to get involved too.
They want you to come on too.
Brian just saw me got big news for me.
Oh excellent, you made a million bucks, no wait a minute brian, so so um so brian.
What’S going on all right, so uh i got reached out to you about that program.
Right, they’re, federally funded and they’re state funded they’re involved with all these politicians and they had a meeting and they said they’re going to make a documentary on philadelphia right and all the problems and everything, and they want to know if you would be the star in Their documentary they said there is no other person that could represent philadelphia more than tim witherspoon.
They said we want him in our documentary uh.
We want to prop him up as an icon for the shape up program like the the big guy man.
You couldn’t have better pr than that see: bryant bryant ryan.
They want you to start coming on the ipod, the podcast, okay yeah.
You got it okay, so i’m i’m on i’m on now, i’m doing the show, and maybe you could bring a lot of followers and everybody to to our show um i’ll give i gave who i gave the number two i have it and eric has it.
I’M sorry i wish she could have came on that.
Listen, we’re gon na we haven’t waited.
You got the number you want to wait till next week to put them on we’ll talk, we’ll talk to them during the week.
Okay, they’re going to talk to you they’re, going to talk to you during the week, so you could be on the show every friday, maybe okay, maybe put it in the chat hold on.
What did you say, the guy who runs he’s the ceo of like uh? The director of the whole program uh he wanted.
He wants to talk to you on the phone.
Can you do that tomorrow? Sometime he’s available anytime tomorrow? Yes, yes, yes, you know.
Once i get my hair cut once i get my hair cut, i’m gon na look like a businessman right now and i don’t care.
Let me get it cut before i go to the dante, wilder fight and everything.
So i’m looking forward to doing everything because i just got finished, told and told them i haven’t – had a drink or anything for a month and a half, and i feel i feel like energy, i feel like energy, so i’m ready to go well right now.
I will show you how the patreon works that way.
I want you to have access to it, because that is uh.
That’S money.
People will give us uh for our youtube channel and to do things they give money as like.
It’S like it’s kind of like a subscription, but it’s voluntary you, you pay it voluntary uh people make fortunes a fortune off of patreon um, but i want you to have full access to it.
So you can see the money that’s going in there and you have full control of it.
I’Ll give you the password access and everything.
Okay.
Are you gon na be able to come on the show? Oh yeah yeah yeah? What time uh it starts at seven yeah.
Yeah, of course, yeah yeah.
Okay, so let me finish: you want to start next week with with uh brian.
That sounds great wait a minute hold on you want to start next week with them.
Yeah sounds great, sounds good: okay, okay, brian i’m gon na finish.
Doing this, i’m gon na finish doing the show um.
This is another uh outlet where we could build and have them involved too.
Okay, they want to talk to you.
I gave them your phone number um um.
Tomorrow i was going to go to exercise at tim’s gym.
I was going to get uh going in and train because i’m gon na leave next week.
I want to look good for the tyson fury and um and uh um dante, wilder fight.
So tomorrow i want to go in early and shania doesn’t have no uh schoolwork, so i want to go and i’m going to look good.
I want to go.
I want to look good when i go next week, so i’m i’ll be in the gym.
You’Ll be in the gym.
Thank you.
Champ yeah, champ man.
All right talk to you later, all right, all right, bye-bye! That’S some good news, hello, yeah! Well! So, for some reason everything start coming together.
Um you know brian was in the gym that dude could kick a heavy bag and he got yeah.
I was like where’d, this guy come from he’s from rhode, island somewhere, and then he started talking about building the witherspoon brand.
I got another friend uh, michael wilson.
I’Ve been known to murder, since he was four years old, um and um his family, oh my god, his family, his father and mother, his hippies – i don’t know if you want to ever get into this.
He has oh serious.
He got serious stories to talk about.
I could talk to him about it and see if he want to uh get involved, but he has some it’s.
My white friend he’s a white friend and, and i love him, crazy, white friends, no he’s! Okay, it’s just it’s just his story is unbelievable.
I’Ll.
Just get the phone and you can talk to him if you want it has nothing to do with sports.
Just imagine his mother and father.
They are hippies back in the day and they believe in certain stuff.
Yeah, we’ll i’ll talk to him and if you want to try to bring him on once we build things and stuff um he’ll probably get on, but i don’t know if he’ll talk a whole lot about it, but he got serious.
He got a serious life him.
Well before we before we start talking about the boxing, that’s upcoming this weekend and next weekend.
Let me ask you a quick question.
We were able to talk to your son tim about the podcast that i was on with him, because i talked to him about building the witherspoon brand and all the marketing.
I told him about my background, so i hope he gave you some good advice um.
It sounds like he did.
Give me some good advice.
Yes, your son, no no um! The thing is, the thing is: is that um um uh tim is doing really well yeah.
I have a lot of yeah.
I have a lot of friends and people that um they’re interested in building the witherspoon brand and interested in the heavyweight champion world um, so um we you’re gon na, have to talk to me and add him on.
Instead of talk to him and add me on him, hey quick question: i don’t care, i don’t care whatever way as long as we all uh prosper, yeah for sure for sure yeah.
I got a question, though, because i was asked this question the other day on another podcast is chazz witherspoon related to tim witherspoon, his his uncle his grandfather.
My grandfather are brothers, oh okay, uh! That’S now now, the thing is is that i was still fighting and he wanted me to train her.
She only had two more fights and i was gon na retire and when i and then, when i retired he he got these other two guys.
So i supported him, but me and him together.
He would him and me would have made a lot more money and his name would have been a lot better, bigger and brighter so um.
He didn’t bring me on.
He brought on the hinton brothers, the hidden brothers out of philly.
He brought them to train them.
I was disappointed.
There’S a lot of people um really disappointed.
There was some upset saying that me and chad’s together we could have did a whole lot more than, and i love wayne and his brother.
I love wayne hinton and his brother, but the thing that me and chaz together, especially over in england and other places, so i don’t know what it was with him.
You know why didn’t he you know, because he came and asked me to help, train him and then i said well, i only got two more fights.
Then i returned, then, when i came, i just kept on supporting her he’s a nice kid though he graduated from um college.
He graduated from university, he’s nice and calm and quiet, and i do believe that me and him would have went far if he would have just uh brought me on board, and everybody knew that i could take him for.
I had a good defense and there’s a lot of slick stuff that i know um, but he just stayed with um the hinton brothers.
So it’s okay, everybody all over the world, england, hey! What’S up with chaz, hey, ask me questions and um i was like.
I was really like kind of like upset and i was like answering questions i was like.
Well, won’t you just call chaz, you know, call chaz and stuff like that.
Um everybody asking me questions about chads this and that and um and um.
I said this action, but if me and him was together, we would have blew it up and i could show him all this.
I could show him all this.
You know show him how to fight southpaws, you know and that’s what i’m i’m trying to get the job with anthony joshua.
I got people reaching out to them.
I know exactly how to fight southpaws.
Slim robinson was one of the best trainers in philly and he showed me, but when i was an amateur as soon as i walked in the gym and i started boxing, there was a heavyweight named randy mac and he was southpaw.
He used to whip my butt until i, until i got into until slim, got me into slim.
Slim was in this real quick.
She was in the same gym with mike rossman, the jewish bomber.
Remember him mike ross the light heavyweight and i was in there.
I went to the wrong guy.
I was supposed to go to somebody else.
I went to the wrong guy when i should have went to slim and then later on, i went with slim and he changed everything around and made me.
He helped me get this as far as i want, but randy mack was a southpaw and i used to spoil him every day and slim taught me how to how to eventually um get the best of him and i feel comfortable, fighting southpaws real quick.
We got a little bit of time right.
I i yeah, but i want to ask you a quick, a super, quick question before before i know i know mike’s got some things to say about the fights and stuff, but i got a big question for you.
Razer ruddock has just announced that he wants to come back into the ring as a real fighter like as a comeback, not as a celebrity fighter but as a real fighter.
What do you think tim? Does he have a chance? How old is he 57 yeah he’s 57? If he’s in good shape, he never stopped.
He claims he never really stopped right, yeah, okay, okay, i think that is it’s worth a try he’s only 57.
, i’m 63.
um.
I don’t.
I think i should be teaching guys a razor reddick had a good.
I do believe.
Razer rudder is left-handed the way he fight he’s left-handed, but he’s just a right-handed he’s he’s fighting like he’s right-handed, because he rips that left and his right is not his crack.
His righteous crap, but this is so, i think, he’s left-handed yeah.
I met him on certain times.
His arm is like his arm his muscles like that, and i believe if he was like, i love mike.
I love all the boxers if he were to court mike right with that uppercut that left the slasher.
He called it because i was, i was training with him somewhere.
I can’t remember – and he called that, the slasher that that left that left and he whipping up that’s a power blow.
He knocked out a lot of people with that um.
I think that i think but listen, listen.
I do believe that defense defense would carry a long ways and it’ll save a lot of fights, so there’s a lot of offensive boxers out there and and they do good, for instance, tommy hearns.
He was all offense and and and and i feel bad for him – i love him.
I love emmanuel stewart emmanuel stewart get all this credit for the cronk gym, but a lot of his boxers are are got hit and they don’t communicate right.
Look at the time you heard right: razor runner fought, uh fought our friend big ray back in 2015.
, big ray yeah ra raymond uh uh, oh okay.
I can never pronounce it man just just say: bola ray yeah bola ray.
He fought bullard back in 2015 razer.
I did not know that yeah um, actually razer reddick’s last fight, was against dylan dylan carmen back in november, the 11th so he’s coming off his last.
His last fight was a loss.
He he got kayode in the third round.
I don’t know now: okay, so i’m gon na keep my comments a little short, so we can oh man three times in 2015 he beat big ray.
Who was xk? What like eight ex canadian champion? He beat him uh tko fifth round, then he fought eric barak, um, and that was a that was a majority decision once all six and then uh yeah his last fight in 2015.
He got kayode at rico, coliseum time, 205.
205 in the third round.
Can i can i switch subjects for a brief moment? Yes, do you know who got okay, so we were talking about uh, a young lady uh forget her name, something cruz cruz, who got signed to uh to match room right, but the other big signing that was announced today, amanda serrano got signed, uh, amanda.
Well guess? Who guess who signed her, who jake paul no way? Oh, what guy was going the hell on so oh owns a promotions company yep, mvp yep, and they they have signs, never wrong with that long.
As you take care of her.
That’S it.
Yo he’s offering fighters right now right now, he’s just offered tommy fury the highest payday he’s ever received times.
Three he’s offered him a million dollars for eight rounds for him to fight him.
Yeah, that’s bull! That’S ball! He’S offered him a million bucks.
He just offered him a million dollars to fight, but but he need to stop that because he cutting into the boxing industry and there’s other boxers that are whip his behind.
If he’d fight him first yeah, that’s really that’s bad! I don’t like that.
I understand what you’re talking about if they can make that money is cool, but why can’t he fight? Why can’t he fight somebody in top 10? First, somebody probably knock him, definitely and knock him out yeah exactly well, that’s a will.
If there’s one show, i guess you can make that money, but it’s gon na it’s gon na mess with the boxing industry yep big time.
Well, it’s it’s like someone has said before i mean to be blunt: he’s got 20 million followers, but they only follow him.
Whether he’s uh blowing up a balloon – or you know no matter what he’s doing they’re gon na follow him so he’s not doing anything for boxing or the boxing industry.
So but but always all i was pointing out was the fact that he signed someone quite serious uh to his management company, his promotions, company, mvp and mvp, or you know, if he’s got that much money, imagine who else he can sign.
I i think it’s good long as he follow the right, the same guidelines as everybody else.
As long as he does the same thing, everybody else does he cannot come in there and um and and put little dents up here, dense hair.
He has to follow the guidelines like every like every other manager and promoter.
He can’t have no kind of special things um.
I think that, because look, i said, i’m i’m with the the guys we’re trying to get the union together and i think that’s wrong.
So i think that he can’t just come right in the middle and do that he has to start from the bottom, because his guys is working their way from the bottom up to the top, and i think that’s wrong the way it is it’s because he has Money wait: a sec, wait, a sec there’s only okay, let’s count them.
How how many? How many but tommy fury is right there? How many promoters are there really in the world right now? I guess there’s a whole lot of them.
I can’t tell you no come on seriously.
Like sir bob aaron, we got eddie hearns.
We got oscar de jolla uh.
Okay, i’m running out.
Do you know frank warren? Frank warren? You got ta.
My point is we’re running out of names.
Okay, so along comes jake.
Paul now, if jake paul can actually pump some money into this industry and get a serious promotions company off the ground to compete uh, if he does it the right way, if he does it the right way inside the good boxers, and then you know, i think, He’S good for the game he’s right.
You know what he will gain respect of the boxing community if he does that for them, i i so you guys, i believe, it’s a way for him to gain respect in the market, respect in the boxing community because he knows he’s already done it such a Bad, it’s already he’s already done it by doing what he’s doing with all this [ __ ] with him in this fake boxing right that we agree on and all i’m saying is, is today today’s announcement, you know signing the serranos.
Sorry, amanda serrano um, you know is it.
I i think, is a good move.
I mean that’s what he should be doing with his money.
I think so i think so, but but but and she’ll start from the bottom and go work.
Her she’s already up the top because she’ll fight a big fight soon she’d come in.
I don’t think nobody could beat that girl.
I was she didn’t know.
I was at an event where she’s pretty and she could fight well i’ll i’ll.
Tell you who he’s thinking of setting her up head to head right, katie, taylor, yep, he or she a i’m, not gon na, say that right off the back i i was in, i was in the um uh reality show with katie taylor and her dad in Ireland we had fun.
Tyson fury came in, you know, you got, you got like 30 seconds i’ll, tell you what they did yeah.
So i was a part of the show with other uh irish uh celebrities and um um tyson for they i love them guys, but they came over and asked me to give tyson fury a couple of rounds and my reply was katie taylor.
Was there too? She was she hot.
She could bang yeah, but i think she lost that that fight with that girl before, but so tyson fury in them came over and asked me did.
I want to spiral so my reply was i’ve been retired for six seven years, i said: were you gon na ask me to spar, for i said i could teach you something and and and and um that so i started thinking.
Do they really know uh about boxing or or you don’t disrespect? Somebody like that you wouldn’t come over to somebody, that’s retired for six years and and um say uh.
We uh won’t you spar with um tyson fury when tyson fury, retired out and i was a trainer.
I would never walk up to him and disrespect him and say hey.
Can you give my guy a couple of rounds, but then i thought about how much they knew when they did that were they doing it to try to, and i love them guys.
I sat with him for an hour or two me and my daughter we cool, but but i said i wonder if they know what they’re doing, because they asking me.
I was retired, i’m two times every champ in the world.
Do they want to make me? Look bad they want to.
You know, because i wasn’t in no shape, so i just was questioning how much they knew dude.
You don’t do that to the former champions, so it was in ireland and we had fun after that.
When i told him that i said look, i said, look um, i would teach you something, but i’m retired, for five years.
What kind of questions you have to ask me? That’S what i told him and then we went on.
We went on and went on with the stuff katie chiller was a part of it.
A lot of english.
I mean a lot of irish um celebrities was in it.
It was called lord of the ring.
You remember that i don’t know.
If you might remember it was called lord of the rings and um um, i i don’t think we won or nothing like that.
Um we didn’t win hey.
You know what i’m curious about i’m curious about nowadays, whether there’s more of a england versus the world.
Boxing scenario happening, there seems to be an awful lot of bragging coming out of england right now about how many heavyweights they’ve got.
Who control say that in the within the top 10, let’s just say well, they’re, not controlling the belts anymore.
Well, uh, you’ve got okay.
All right, we’ll we’ll see on october 9th when uh, if beyond like they can, they can break all they want, but at the end of the day, didn’t joshua just lose yeah yeah yeah yeah.
But if you, if you i’m just saying i’m asking tim here, question, not not not, you can answer as well mike.
I’M just simply saying it seems to me, like the british in particular, are saying we have the best boxers in the world, even though you sick just beat joshua okay, but the the argument still reigns, and all i’m saying is is if you guys, because i brought Up big baby anderson, okay, one of the great heavyweight fighters that i’m watching okay mike introduced me to him, he’s a he’s.
A great guy he’s a great fighter where’s he from jared big baby.
Oh, where is he actually he’s fighting? Now? Oh yeah he’s undefeated right.
Yeah he is undefeated um.
You know he’s born he’s born in toledo, ohio and uh.
He resides in toledo.
So, like he’s he’s one of these guys, like you, wouldn’t know about him.
Unless unless somebody puts you on to him, um he’s 21 years old, he goes by the big baby jared big baby anderson he’s ranked right now, 10 out of 279 in the heavy division in the united states and he’s ranked 53 out of 1050 in the world.
Uh he’s 9-0 with a clean, perfect knockout record 100 he’s only 21 years old.
I think i might.
I think i might have heard of him guys big boy.
Okay, he’s been on the undercard of a lot of fights um that you’ve, probably watched and i’ll tell you, man he’s uh he’s no he’s! No joke he’s dropping people um well.
His last fight was against uh jeremiah karpensky um.
That was back in um april uh.
He fought again on uh back in uh february.
I believe it was against kingsley, uh, ibeth and uh yeah.
I don’t know, i don’t know these guys, i’m not discredit, i’m not, i’m not discrediting him.
No! No, but with the top 20 yeah you’ll see him fighting again on the 9th okay, but the top 20 that i’m gon na.
Let you get it right now, but the top 20.
You knew every single one of when i was fighting when i was fighting the top ten, everybody knew their names, the top, the top 20.
Everybody knew their names.
But now you don’t even know the top three see what here it is he’s on he’s on the tyson fury of deontay wilder card you’re gon na see him.
Oh my pda, okay, best, okay, anderson, okay, right now, you’ll tell him that the bulls and talking fighter behind him, okay, foreign and uh – that’s gon na be a good one.
Man and uh.
You know frank sanchez, no joke either frank sanchez talked about this guy.
Before he’s 18 and already, this is a big fight, big big fight, honestly, if it wasn’t for everybody wanting to see fury, wilder i’d, say: that’d be the fight of the night man, the frank sanchez yeah.
Okay, also, you have edward berlinga who’s 17-0 right now, uh going up against um another another, pretty big fighter, man uh and that’s um, marcelo esteban courses and that’s the uh, the wbo naval title super middle.
So there’s some big fights going on there, but not a lot of people know about this guy jared anderson and he’s on the undercard.
For this thing man he’s you know, he’s listed, i think, to go about third, third lineup and um.
Let’S see man, i love watching this kid yo.
He came out in a chef’s uniform in a couple of his last fights man and he’s like yo, i’m just gon na chef.
You guys up that knockout.
You know what i’m saying whoa business he comes in.
There means business he’s, got heavy heavy hands and he’s no joke man, he just okay.
So here’s my point, the english don’t even know about them.
No, but the english that i’m specific about the english here are are so nationalistic, okay yeah.
I was born in england.
So i’m allowed to say this: okay they’re, so national they think they have.
Where was you born? Where was you born? I was born in preston in in lancashire i used to go to prison first, i was just being president.
Go ahead.
Go ahead, your son, your son, told me that actually so anyway, so so my point is: is uh.
The english are very nationalistic, very prideful, as they should be, but they think right now they have the best heavyweight lineup in the world.
Okay, whether whether it whether it includes tyson fury, you know, and i’m no big fan of tyson fury, i don’t like what he’s saying recently.
I don’t like what deontay wilder’s saying recently i think trash talking should be.
You know when you, when you talk about top football players or top baseball players or top basketball players, do they talk this way to each other, no they’re professional? They don’t talk this way tim.
Did you ever talk? That way, did you ever talk? Well, when larry holmes, larry holmes, um said a little bit of stuff, and i said just a little bit back to him um i think too.
Sometimes it’s fair is fair.
I mean i’ve been boxing.
It’S fair in a way you got ta find a way to get that heart up and you’re gon na talk to the opponent like a certain way, but um.
We didn’t really do that bad.
I didn’t really do that bad, because i showed you within the ring.
I showed it in the ring, so you do you, you promote the fight by doing it a little bit um, but i think tyson, fury and um dante wilder went overboard just a little bit um and i don’t know what that could be.
That could be the fair or or i don’t know you just got to figure it out what that is.
She do promote the fight, but sometimes they go a little bit too far, we’ll go a little bit too far.
I’Ll, be blunt, that’s an understatement.
Let me say this: um um, i’m like every time i watch some of the young guys fight um, because i’m so used to seeing um a lot of different skills.
I just get disappointed the build up to the fight is beautiful um, you know they make.
You know they walk in, they have the hats on they have this on, but as soon as that bell rang.
That’S when i get disappointed, i don’t see the the skills like back in the day.
I don’t see them, but i do watch the fight and the build build-up was beautiful, but then, when they started fighting i was like i’d be like okay, i’m gon na watch the fight, but it’s not like.
In the back of the days, [ Music, ], yeah yeah, it’s not like back in the day.
It’S not not at all, not at all, but you know what, if there’s there’s only, i believe what four four people that are: [ __ ] in the top 10 heavyweight rankings anyway sound like you’re dominating it they might have the belt, but that’s about it.
Um uh tyson fury like i said i spent time with him.
I like him.
Yeah he’s got plenty of heart.
He has plenty of heart um and he tries he’s, got plenty of heart and you know what it is it’s time for him to have some fun with his money.
He’S still he’s gon na get in there he’s gon na fight the couple of fights he needs to fight and then we’re gon na see him respectively and uh.
He’S gon na go enjoy his money.
That’S what he’s gon na do.
That’S why i can’t wait.
I can’t wait to see him fight, but you know what let’s get you know he deserves everything and i i i hope he gets knocked out in the first round.
What can i say about that? One um, i i’m just i’m just looking forward to see it’s very interesting, seeing seeing this here fight again and um.
I i just don’t know i don’t know what, if dante weather is going to uh honestly, the new welder doesn’t bring anything it’s going to be a [ __ ] show like it was before.
Well wait! Well, well, he got malik scott who’s, a sparring partner.
He was a spartan partner.
I don’t want to disrespect the malik, but he was everybody’s farm partner.
They were showing their videos which they should have never did back in the day.
My trainer, you never show show your videos and they were posting the videos.
That’S inexperienced, uh malik, scott, hitting the pads with dante, wilder and all dante and wilder have to have to do is build his left side up and his defense and he would be invincible.
He depends on his right.
He never he didn’t.
Have nobody to tell him.
Look, we got to work on the left, foot, the uppercut and the left side and build that up, strengthen that up.
He would be invincible, but they depended on the right hand, mark breeland, fights the same way right hand up here and jab through the right hand.
No defense, no defense, so if he, if dante wilder trainer, would have concentrated on that left side, because the right side will knock you out and defense and defense now you got to have that defense.
I think that he would be invincible.
I’M telling you, but the trainers are not smart enough to realize that i would be in.
If i was in this corner i’ll be in there working on the jab with weights getting in the uppercuts.
I will make sure that left side of his body is invincible.
Then you know he’s going to win that fight.
If that jab is it’s like it’s like larry holmes and ali that right hand going to get in, but they’re, not thinking that they thinking about all this other stuff.
I did not see one deep defense defensive mechanism when malik scott was hitting the pads.
You didn’t see nothing you didn’t see.
None of that all you saw was and malik scott going like this acting.
You know.
I noticed that an eco i’m calling malik and stuff, but there was no defensive mechanism, did you see them holding their pads? No, no.
You didn’t see them okay.
Well, they was flashing it on the internet and i was – and i sent the message saying you shouldn’t you: shouldn’t uh show uh.
You shouldn’t put the videos up, wait till after the fight yeah man.
Oh somebody going capture a smart trainer, a smart trainer, a capitalized on that cedric’s trying to jump in cedric.
What’S up, i got some wine for you, [ Laughter, ], where’s, cedric, there’s something there’s some big fights going on this year.
Man, i’m actually pretty pretty impressed with.
I don’t know if you guys know it um, that’s gon na be awesome.
Well, well, there’s a fight tonight right in italy we got uh.
We got some cards going on in italy tonight, television everywhere, huh, okay! Well, this fight’s everywhere tonight we got the scardina and dubersteen card.
That’S going on in italy.
You can catch out on the zone uh, you know, there’s never never heard of them.
No, i know, but you know what it’s the never heard of that really blow your mind.
Sometimes, when you watch hey yeah, it’s those guys that watch that stuff, he said, there’s a kid there’s a kid three and no he’s in italy.
I was trying to get him a man.
I was trying to get somebody to bring him over.
I can’t pronounce his name.
I can’t pronounce his name next next time i’ll come and bring there’s a bunch of undefeateds on this card.
That’S uh on the zone tonight uh the the the main event doberson versus uh, scardina, sardines, a 19-0 super middle out of italy right now, wow yeah and then we got nicholas esposito who’s a 14-0 on the same card uh.
We got vincenzo uh la femina, who’s, a 9-0 uh super phantom.
We got uh rasheed mati who’s 10-0 welter.
You got samuel, uh, no more who’s 15.
To know like these.
All these guys are undefeated and they’re on this card.
Man and uh.
This is the zone.
So is this: is this um? Yes, you can take the knuckle up.
You can take the knuckle up password and you can go right in because you know buckle up.
Has that and uh you can watch it tonight.
Man, no problem, it’s nice, because you know we have to watch it anyway, because we got a report on it on sunday exactly, but we go through to find the fights to find the knockouts.
So you can watch our show our show exactly our show right there.
Hey you know all right, hey, listen what you guys should do, then, if you’re, that good is you should start picking some winners out of all these undefeated fighters, who’s going to win come on who’s! Your pick, i’m taking scardina, i’m taking skyrim for the win there.
You’Re yeah and that’s the vacant, w intercontinental super middle title so go go italy all right fans, all right fans notch that one, not that one in there.
You know.
There’S lots of fights going on.
You know honestly, there’s an event.
That’S not televised! Actually, in the hangar um got some got some a bunch of debuts man, so uh the brits are putting out a bunch of debut fights tonight, they’re, not televised.
Unfortunately, um.
What time does this start mike? What time does it start? Oh, it’s pretty! It’S probably going on around now, probably just starting now, i i haven’t even turned onto zone yet i’ll i’ll check it later.
You know what it’ll be there any time.
Yeah you’re right.
You know, you know cash.
You know cash at least stop this last last boxer.
Yes, [ Music, ] jones, yeah, yep yep.
We got some big.
We got some big fights on that cartoon man.
I’Ve um, honestly, i’ve, i’ve debuted a whole bunch of them this week.
Everybody that i talked about this week is on this card uh, so guys, man, chris eubanks, he he um.
You know uh um, he’s the closest like roy jones jr.
Sorry, i forgot to turn the clocks off again here that bell put them kids to work.
Um.
Roy jones has worked with a couple of pro fighters, but it looks like um chris eubanks is the one that kind of kind of trying to adapt the roy jones style.
Like don’t get me wrong? No one can, you know repeat what roy jones did, but exactly you know.
As far as like his last fight chris eubanks, you know he threw like a triple left hook kind of like how roy jones would do it so um.
As far as the guys that roy’s has worked with chris eubanks looks like the one that he’s that he’s.
As as far as more successful as far as adapting roy’s style and champ, one thing i want to add in what you were saying before um about when people do pads and no defensive moves, i always emphasize that i always tell people you should always expect expect The punch coming back at you like, even if, whatever you’re doing even if it’s just one block or one slip or one step back like it’s, not just don’t just throw and just stand there and wait for the tree to fall.
You know what i’m saying always always expect the punch coming back at you.
Whenever i move pads, whenever i do pads, i’m always either coming back with a hook or make them slip the straight punch or make them duck under it’s.
Never just offense and just standing there watching right always expect some something coming back exactly yo.
You don’t get to hit people for free right, that’s the way it works.
You got to incorporate this defense, you prank somebody, you tag, somebody! You should expect to get tagged back, you don’t get to hit for free and it’s got incorporated in the playground at school man you hit somebody, you get hit back, that’s the way it works.
You got ta incorporate defense with the offense and it looks beautiful if you just all offense.
If you up just all offense um, you know you’re gon na wind up being brain dead yeah.
You know what i’m saying you might be: a crowd, pleaser, a crowd pleaser, but the end of the career is not going to be good for you, yeah you’re, getting at the end of the year.
You won’t be sitting around doing crossword puzzles.
That’S for sure.
Can i say something that really touched me the other day uh, it’s not gon na.
Take that long, oscar de la hoya got on the media and he was talking and – and he couldn’t remember nothing did you see that no he was talking.
He was talking like he was punchy and he kept looking at the girl saying.
Is that what it is is that and then he and then i i i i i text on there and said oscar: are you playing? I i texted and said: are you playing uh oscar um cause you’re, not talking right? I said this to him.
He was acting like he was punching.
He kept asking the girl and then he kept forgetting he’s like uh um he’s coming out of the hospital stay with uh corona, though right, oh, did he yeah? Oh, i thought he’d be on mike tyson’s.
I was ranch mike tyson like a month ago at iran.
Barclays uh, i think i might have told you guys – iron barkley had a fundraiser up in the bronx mike was there with his wife and kids and um.
It was beautiful, there’s raising money, for you know former boxers and stuff like that.
It was pretty cool.
We need more stuff like that.
Yeah, that’s why i come on the show.
That’S why i come on the show to stay active um.
I like i told that, like i hadn’t drink or nothing and like, and i feel really good.
I think i want i like it that, like that, but it’s okay to have a little glass of wine to warm you up every once in a while, i’m more active around the house, i’m more active around i’m cleaning up.
I’M doing i’m waking my daughter up for a school and um and and um i like that better, so i just got like a little bit of wine first time in a month in three weeks, i got a little bit right there, good for you.
We were talking about, we were talking about roy jones, jr and he’s actually got a promotions company himself and, quite frankly, he was in the news recently like yesterday or today, uh promoting his fights in mexico because, quite frankly, he’s discovered a whack of talent down in Mexico and he’s putting on fights so roy jones jr is not just you know, building up brand uh in england that might take some money.
He took that mike tyson money, huh from the fight and i’m going to say, and i’m going to say, put it to good use.
Yeah right looks like okay, it’s cool as opposed to other people.
We know yeah like, like you saying, like um, like you, think those those guys like tyson fury, uh all the guys making that money should try to invest some money uh into the into the sport, because they really are making money for like when your career is Over, maybe then you think they should be doing stuff like that yeah a little just a little bit.
We were talking about this earlier today.
Um john anthony joshua, for example, allegedly has now pocketed 300 million pounds, 300 million pounds.
You’Re serious he’s a very welcome fellow right now in our money and and what he doesn’t.
What he doesn’t have, though, is well what what he doesn’t have is.
He doesn’t have legacy.
Okay, there you go a hundred percent.
You write about that.
So so yeah we’ll probably be back in the ring to fight for what they call legacy and uh i’ve been having people.
Let legacy cost money though, but i’ve been having reach.
I’Ve been having people reach reach out because because i could really help them real, quick, real, quick and uh real quick now you might know this trainer, but when, when when usef was shooting his right, jab right this one, a lot of people don’t know about southpaws.
You can take your hand, you can block their jab, that right jab, you can throw a hook over top or you can block it.
You can throw a body shot or you can slip this way uh, and this is what you can do you go around the back, a lot of boxers or trainers.
Just have you keep your left foot on the outside right of your up.
There lean feet, yeah and all you just out here: don’t work, but there’s much more.
You can do you can keep on going behind them and make them turn into your hook.
So so, like you, should start right here and i’ll slip and i go behi.
I keep going as soon as loose.
You said turn this way.
I can hit him yeah a lot of people.
Don’T know that i would have.
I would have to show you and and and a lot of boxers did on my trainer slim showed me that so you just don’t stay here.
You can keep going around the back and you said we’re turning right into your punches.
You understand what i’m saying: yeah yeah exactly don’t give that away, because i’m trying to get i’m trying to show that to things we teach a movie joshua pretty early uh.
Is it’s slipping past that we slip past that and then we turn and make you squish and we square up and then, by the time you return, you square it up right into our shots when you make them turn by you going by you going in back, You make them turn right into your punches yeah and that’s where you’re screwing your squared up, ready to go going right down the pipe and there’s nothing they can do, but just take it they’re not doing it stay here.
Guys, okay, go ahead, is lomachenko still uh training because i’m pretty sure he’s training you, sir lomachenko, in the dad or or you mean that loma chance he’s managed by the klitschko brothers and he’s trained by lomachenko’s dad.
He didn’t look like they were saying all this stuff and i was like.
I didn’t really see that and that’s why people had him as the underdog, because, oh he he was smaller, he didn’t have the reach that uh auntie joshua had he didn’t, have the power, but you know what he took it to joshua.
He.
You know watching that 12th round.
He almost stopped him in that 12th round yep and i didn’t really see nothing devastating.
Really, i’m not trying to take nothing from the fight.
I didn’t really see nothing.
I looked at the fight and i was like it was just a basic, regular fight to me, but you had the two big names.
She had two big videos, but i was i was.
I was disappointed about the performance on both of them.
I think joshua.
I think people people were expecting joshua just to impose his size and just kind of walk him down um and stop him early, but i think usyk used his boxing skills because i said all you know: they both won gold medals at the olympics, but u6 skills Were still you know, different levels to the gold medal u6 boxing skills were a lot better like he didn’t land, any one punch devastating um.
You know one punch that dropped well, he did drop joshua, but it was more so that the straight left’s right down the middle – that is more of the speed of that, was catching joshua off guard, as as opposed to the power with that straight left.
Uh, lomach.
Okay, anatolo anatoly lomachenko, ahead of the joshua fight, was pulled in by the use at camp.
They did use him yeah um yeah, i’m assuming i’m assuming yeah she’s ready to show you.
I don’t.
I don’t mean to cut you off, but i don’t know where you can show you.
You uh, because lemonchenko got all natural skills where yeah he’s doing natural like floyd mayweather and there’s nothing, no blueprint really where you got to go by.
If you understand what i’m saying so um, how can he teach somebody he has to be, in top shape, to do all that stuff and all those little move and stuff? Everybody can’t do, there’s no blueprint for that.
That’S all natural, i think the thinking behind that is that um, when they were all amateurs he was, he was their amateur coach, so maybe they brought him in just to just to get that uh that that mind frame again.
As far as you know, it’s all natural and what they put stuff on the floor and move your feet, so you can do it over and over again.
I don’t see how you can do that.
He him and floyd like natural natural movement, there’s no blueprint where you can write it or you put it down low this way, you move this way slip.
No floyd.
Just there’s no blueprint.
Just tell me if i’m wrong, no machenko, you it’s it’s no blueprint right.
Where you go in the book and see or the trainer, no, you put your feet this way.
That way you throw the hook.
This way, it’s all natural, that’s really complicated.
When you get boxers like that, when llama chicken was a little kid, his dad put him in in dancing dancing lessons for a couple of years with that, like whatever like folk dancing like the real, not professional stuff but like high level dancing.
So that’s where that that high level footwork came from from lomachenko yeah yeah yeah yeah.
We just heard the bell scoring points for cedric there, [ Laughter ], oh that’s the last, so we might have a couple.
Some more people coming on um trying to build the show up.
I was just talking to those guys uh this guy, just helping me, and he was talking to my son um, and i just got the youtube channel by this by this guy uh brian, this guy brian.
I met at the gym and he’s very.
He knows a lot of these.
You got a lot of resources, you know a lot of people, and so hopefully we can get things moving with all these guys coming on.
If it’s all right with you, you guys and stuff yeah, you heard them talking, they heard them talk and this guy could kick the the heavy bag in half.
I seen him kick the bag i was like, and then he got a vicious left hook and he’s not big he’s only like 180 170.
.
So you guys are you’ll meet him.
You’Ll meet him.
That’S what he’s talking! [ Laughter, ], we’re rude, we’re rude yeah.
I know you’re talking something i don’t know about you, don’t trust the inside joke champ! That’S all! Okay! Okay, you made me choked last week before we started the show as a joke, because mike said, he’s got a new heavy bag coming in and anyway, it’s a long short story, but yeah, that’s what her name is, but you hit the heavy bag.
Oh no, i was getting.
I wanted.
I was getting one delivered and i said i’m waiting on this heavy bag and he’s like.
What’S her name, we got some good cards, though this weekend, man yeah, we do.
We do there’s some good cards.
Let’S talk about them.
Quick cause we’re almost done: uh the vasquez flores card um, you know it’s all latino uh, it’s gon na, be it’s gon na, be good man.
There’S gon na be some good fights on it.
I think that’s a, i think.
That’S a mexican versus puerto rican clash.
Fantastic yeah, it is it’s gon na, be good man.
There’S a lot of those guys, don’t like each other.
That’S gon na be a good one yeah.
I know they don’t like each other at all uh.
It’S definitely gon na, be a big uh.
A big big card man, um there’s we got what heavyweight co feature on there.
Uh american stuff, uh brandon moore, is on that he’s 9-0 right now, with five kos he’s one he’s got to watch um.
Then he got uh g uh jesus angel, nero um is in he’s the hometown.
Favorite man he’s 15 15 9-1 with six ko’s and that’s in the ten rounder.
They got the mexican junior right, uh welterweight puncher, um, uh, jamir uh espinoza, he’s 10-0 with nine knockouts uh he’s fighting jorge melendez, um and they’re fighting an eight-rounder.
Then you got the rising cubing contender, uh pitbull machado, who’s 17-0, with eight knockouts uh will face on the upset-minded um salazar who’s.
Eleven eight and one with three kills in an eight-rounder uh and that they will fight in a contract made of 154 pounds and then you’ve got um.
Yo machado previously won the wba internet, uh international and wbc latino belts at 122.
um.
So it’s it’s gon na be gearing up to be a pretty pretty nice war.
Uh.
Then you got an eight-round junior welterweight contest, uh christian uh uh, your zaquetta uh 1942 is fighting the unbeaten in his last three fights uh will take on the veteran, juan okora.
So i know we’ve all seen these guys on cards before uh.
Maybe you guys just remember the names: okay um.
Then we got uh jonathan gio, don lopez, he’s 4-0 right now: nice uh, nice guy to watch uh, four, no two knockouts and an 18 year old phenom from puerto rico.
Uh.
You know uh jorge diaz, another guy to watch.
These guys are all on this undercard man, guys you’re gon na, don’t want to miss that then we definitely have the eubank card, and i’ve been talking about that all week.
Everybody kind of knows what that is.
Man, that’s the only really big card.
That’S highlighted this weekend, so the card that you just mentioned is that tomorrow or tonight that’s tomorrow night this morning tonight is some stuff.
That’S just on the zone.
Um who’s going to win that one i’m going to go with chris eubank, just uh like he falls because my favorite fighter of all time is his coach.
So i’m gon na go with him, he’s in really good shape, he’s in really good shape and um.
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