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EPISODE: Episode 1
Welcome to The Sugar Show with Natalie Brown! Natalie is a passionate advocate for women’s boxing and loves to discuss the progress, and shortfalls, being made in the sport. On this episode she discusses the challenges that female boxers face and how they are overcoming these obstacles. Finally, Natalie highlights some of the most inspiring stories of female boxers who have achieved success in their respective careers. Join Natalie as she shares her views on the sweet science of boxing and the progress being made in the sport.
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Foreign [, Music, ], hey y’all, it’s Natalie sugar brown here and you know what time it is.
If that’s the case, it must be well 7 30-ish on a Wednesday night, because you’re here with me, Natalie sugar, brown, um and it’s the sugar show it’s.
The sugar show y’all, it’s the sugar show where we get together and we have a conversation.
We talk about women’s boxing and Natalie sugar brown, woman, boxer, female pugilist, okay, been in the game, uh UPS Downs ins outs, all of it, and now this is my platform to talk about it, and this is where I speak on.
Things speak on the real, authentic story of being a woman boxer out here in the world.
Um, you know talking to talk okay, so this is a platform where we are able to uh get on here and just you know, chat.
Okay, you don’t have to know the numbers per se.
You don’t have you just got ta like the broad you got ta like what we talk about and like doesn’t mean that oh you’re agreeing with what I’m saying per se like it, meaning you like the vibe, you like you like uh, coming on the sugar show Or chilling out with me and and us talking to talk um, ask me the questions.
Ask me ask me: ask me right: it may seem like a dumb question and it may seem like something that everyone should know.
I guess, because not many people know about.
What’S going on out here, especially being a woman boxer, okay, so ask me the questions that you want to ask me: I ain’t, never scared, okay, so um! You know we’re going to get into the conversation.
Okay to to tonight’s title is: are we excited yet? Are we excited yet? Why? Because there’s a there’s a big card coming up in women’s boxing this weekend, yeah and I’ve been chatting about that for the last couple weeks or something you know what I’m saying.
I gave the Spiel and the um kind of rundown of the card uh last Wednesday, but uh I got ta, bring it back this this Wednesday too.
Why I’m bringing it back is because they’ve done added, they didn’t added another couple, broads on on the card that that we really gots to talk about, because it’s not you, know um, I I got some.
I I got some challenge when it comes to um what it is they selling on this card.
Okay, so I went, I went through the the other stuff and you know I I said how I felt and, and some of the guys came on always support me and I’m so grateful.
I hope you guys show up in it and if you knew to to the sugar show or to the uh sugar platform, you are welcome to chime in and if you true, you know, I love to hear from you and I and I love to see you Uh come in on my thread and and talk to talk okay, so today or tonight we’re gon na talk about um and we’re gon na get into it lovely assistant.
I don’t know how long this show might be.
You know it just depends.
It just depends.
Okay, so y’all look look who they done added look who they added to the um Amanda Serrano um, goodness, I’m already jammed up um to to this big card here at Madison Square Garden with uh, Amanda, Serrano and uh lovely assistant.
For some reason, this broad’s name misses me who Amanda fighting on on um on 30.
on 30.
, who is Amanda fighting like I, it’s not that she’s a nobody or whatever, but like for some reason that these these names aren’t um aren’t parked in my mind.
Nowadays, yeah Y’all Gon na help me all right, so um my guys came into the rescue.
Thank you Erica, Cruz, okay, so Erica Cruz and the thing is Erica Cruz is a champion.
She got billed in her division right, so Amanda’s is fighting.
It is fighting Erica, Cruz, y’all know, listen, it’s Wednesday.
They don’t call Wednesday hump day for nothing.
Okay, listen! We y’all, [, __, ], y’all, don’t even know.
What’S going on on the um behind the scenes in in the life of your girl’s, sugar, but listen.
I I I’m just glad I can make it here and we could chat to chat okay.
This is, this is actually one of the favorite one of my favorite parts of the week when I get together with you guys with with you guys that chime in or you guys that uh come to see me and and and talk my talk.
Okay, so Erica Cruz has a belt.
I think this is a um.
The the division is is with these smaller gals um.
Is it um y’all? Let me just go on and because this I am jammed up Amanda, who am I man to find y’all know I’m on my phone, where she fighting for um come on.
Don’T all right, y’all, so Amanda Serrano is finding that Erica Cruz um for her featherweight title.
Okay, much going on down in featherweights, you know I’m not saying that is irrelevant or whatever it is.
But you know you know how, when you don’t really like when, when you don’t really look at something um too too much, you kind of forget the details.
So that’s you know that that’s what kind of happened but no shade! You know I.
I am looking forward to this card coming up this weekend because, as I I gave you all the rent run through last weekend.
I mean last uh week Wednesday.
It’S some! It’S a pretty interesting match on this card with Alicia and um and uh Ellen McAllen, Alicia mom Garner.
Any Alan McCallum.
I think that is Macaulay is, is the match-up that I’m looking forward to okay, so look who they done added these two on the card? Okay? So, of course, y’all know I got the yeah.
I got to give you all the rundown about what’s coming on and the thing about it is it’s such a huge card that there’s five uh women’s bouts now on this card.
Would they and and it’s being promoted, pretty pretty good live on uh dancing? You know uh, oh of course, um.
What’S his name, um Jake Paul is the guy.
That’S that’s.
Um got his his stable.
His uh super his Stars, the stars of his stable on on this card.
He just signed uh.
Should these agreeing and coincidentally six days he signs her and then he puts her on this huge card to fight um, uh, Ellen cederos, so um.
Let me break down this matchup and, and let’s talk about this matchup, okay, um lovely assistant, can you um? Could you pan to the next image? Please come on now all right, so you know each Contender deserves they their little um little time in the spotlight and and Ellen uh cedaros certainly deserves hers, and not many people know about this.
This broad, okay.
But let’s talk about her.
Okay, because she’s she uh the she she’s had the the titles in her hands.
Why not? You know why not so um, as you can see, Ellen cedarus is eight wins, one loss and four Kos.
She is a super middleweight.
Okay right now she’s a super middleweight Contender.
Okay, so she had um two belts.
She had the ibf uh super middleweight belt and the WBA super middleweight belt and y’all know I hope y’all keeping up with sugar and sugar show because there is some edumacation.
There is some education in in you know what I come on here and chat about, but um.
She had these two titles up until April of last year, 2022 uh, when she, where she was defeated, or the French on uh Cruz discern, came and took, took her a hardware up off of her okay at the same spot, Madison Square Garden, and I think it Was on the undercard of Katie Taylor versus Amanda, Serrano, okay, um, and it just it, looks like Jake Paul, just loved what just love when his Gales get freaky at Madison Square Garden, because this is the second showing for his his broads.
His his gals from a stable at Maddie Square Garden, okay, Amanda and now uh shadesia, who he just signed; okay, so we’re gon na go into uh, Ellen uh, ceterus she’s about 5, 10.
; okay, big, big, broad; okay, that that’s pretty tall uh she’s, 38 years old.
Okay, so she’s Cronin she’s groaning right now, she’s Swedish she’s from Sweden and um.
She got some items on her receipt.
Okay, so this is a pretty she.
She was a pretty decent contender in in her division or is uh um right now, but you know we want to talk talk about this one: okay, so um a lovely assistant, let’s head on to the next image image: okay, so the first item or the first Brought she has on her receipt is what who we’re looking at right here: fem K, Herman, who just had an outstanding win um against the the the gal or the broad uh up in Quebec, Canada, Mary Spencer.
So she she flew all the way away from where she was at and when and and took her win up off of Mary Spencer in Quebec.
And not only did she um fight to a decision, but she dropped Mary Spencer in this match and and I believe she exposed Mary’s uh the heart a bit.
You know I’m I’m hoping that you know Mary comes back and lick her wounds, but this is something that I I’ve mentioned in in previous shows, where Mary Smith’s uh her heart, you know, and we we called it heart in boxing – has always been questionable.
Does she have the heart to fight when it, when someone brings a fight to her and femke, brought a fight and bought the fight to her in in where you know, just because you get dropped in the fight, don’t mean the fight’s over, and it doesn’t mean You gon na lose or you’re losing the fight.
If anything, you fight harder, if something like that happens, especially in your backyard, but it didn’t.
You know Mary Mary, just didn’t show up after after that happened and femke being the phlegmatic fighter that she is phlegmatic temperament, meaning you know, she’s going with the energy now of the crowd and everything that’s happening around her.
She just gained momentum and and just kept building and building where uh, Mary Spencer, who uh I would say she is more of a um sanguine type of fighter, because, if you’re, not if she’s, not in the spotlight, if she’s not being praised, if she’s, not the You know the the the um star of the show she she certainly stops, acting like it and she won’t fight like it.
So she she started backing off and backing off where femke kept building and building into a fantastic win.
So getting back to uh chatting about um Ellen Setter, uh ceterus, okay from Sweden uh.
This broad is on her receipt.
Okay, so she fought femke Herman when fem K was nine, wins uh, two losses.
So if MK was, you know, I think she was fresh off of her two losses: um.
She she lost against.
I want y’all to dig a bit deeper there.
Okay, but um.
That’S an item on the receipt.
That’S a great! That’S a good Contender! Now, okay and then after um, she won over femke.
She fought a fighter named Alicia Napoleon who uh was 12, wins one loss at the time.
Okay and she beat Alicia Napoleon um with a majority decision, lovely assistant.
Do we have any do? Do we have anything that uh shows? Okay, so I mean this: is this? Is uh up at a point, a point in time in the fight, so you see Ellen uh.
She she looks like she just delivered a good one, um to cross Napoleon’s jaw and Napoleon.
Did you know the both eyes are about both of them.
Eyes is closed right.
So um, I would say to be honest, this shows the experience level or shows you know the the the um.
It shows the comfort of these two fighters in the ring and you can see where they’re they’re still they’re still a bit under seasoned right.
They’Re not seasoned enough to you know in in when you know a fighter is seasoned and in a fighter is, is comfortable in the fight is when they’ve taken the shot and they’re still looking at their their opponent or the person in front of them right.
You’Ve taken the shot but you’re looking at what’s what’s next, what’s coming next right or you’re, given the shot but you’re looking exactly you’re, looking where the shot’s going both of these broads their eyes is closed.
You know, like a a fighter, you know such as myself.
I always capitalized on this Mo on these moments, because I had quick feet and I knew my angles so um you know when, when a fighter closes their eyes, you know um.
I disappear I’ll show up on at another angle that you can’t quite see, and you have to find me in order to get this in order to get that thing going again or in in order to to stay in it right because um me one, you know Once I get off the angle, you want to catch another one you’re gon na catch, another three right, so this picture shows you know two broads in there fighting uh Ellen has, you know, struck a good one across crossed Alicia’s jaw, okay and it it looked like They were standing and giving and taken okay.
The thing about it is um in in in this fight.
She did she eked out the decision, because Alicia Napoleon is not a good fighter.
Uh.
Well, not I’m not saying she’s, not a good fighter, but she’s, not she she’s, not um a fighter that deals well with someone who keeps coming who keeps coming she just.
She doesn’t know how to manage her.
She she doesn’t really know how to manage the pace and she doesn’t know how to uh fight the the oncoming train right.
Sometimes you have to step off the rails and come back on Step Off The Track and come back on the track Step Off The Track.
Come back on the track right, you can’t outrun the train right.
You can’t outrun keep going moving back and moving back.
Why? Because yeah Ellen is to me she’s a phlegmatic fighter as well: she’s she’s, moving she’s she’s, fighting off of the momentum and the the energy of the crowd and and what’s happening around so you don’t give you don’t give a fighter like that room or or you Don’T give them any type of motion to to build a a um to build momentum? Okay, one round with George George Yankovic, I hope I said your name right came in and said can’t wait for the card this weekend at the Hulu.
Okay.
Is that the platform that the card is gon na be on Hulu y’all, I’m telling y’all sugar is a cave woman.
When it comes to this this stuff, I don’t sugar, don’t sugar, don’t even watch TV like unless it’s something like really interesting, sugarless, [, __ ] me, I’m I’m just always engaged I always got.
I always got someone that I’m engaging with and that’s what I love.
I that that’s the spice of life to me meeting people spending time with people, even though at the same time I am very introverted – and I love time to myself.
So I’m kind of weird that way right, but yeah yeah um one round with George says: that’s the name of the spot in the garden uh that is at the Hulu theater used to be called The Paramount.
Thank you baby.
Thank you for dropping that knowledge on on us.
Okay, so yeah they gon na, be so it’s going down at the Hulu.
Okay, yes, okay! So some somebody’s gon na get they ass whipped down at the Hulu, because you know I know it.
You know we’re not going down there, the um for no Girl Scout convention right we’re about it’s five, it’s five female bouts right and that means 10 women about to behave badly down there, uh at the Hulu, and that’s it just sounds fantastic uh George, Mr uh.
Yankovic, are you going or are you going to be like chiming in or tuning in uh online? You let me know – and let me know who you want to see the most on the card right thanks for chiming in anything 10 Eddie Barrington says Hulu.
Theater is the venue okay baby.
Thank you right.
I know it listen and you came in always with the six roses: okay, um and you know what you uh and and hopefully what I love.
I I hope one day that you know I can I can meet my um.
You know meet my people, my supporters out here, because I owe you some sugar for every rose.
You give me right, so I got six roses.
That’S gon na be fun ain’t.
It right um, one round with George, says uh.
I plan on going it’s an hour away from me.
I’M a big Serrano and bumgardner fan.
Okay, okay, then, and I love that you would drive an hour just to see the women behave badly right.
That’S what that’s! That’S what that’s all we ever wanted? That’S all we ever wanted right.
Uh men, like you, George, you Eddie right, the rest of y’all chiming in and y’all gals y’all women’s out there right to come, see us right and you make the time make the effort to come.
See us act up in that mother, okay, uh.
What a time to be a woman’s boxers yeah, I’m a woman boxer! You know what I’m saying what a time one round with George says: they are Fighters plain and simple: ain’t, no ain’t, nothing! Plain and simple about being a woman boxer that that’s that’s! Why? I’M? That’S why I got this, show George right.
It ain’t plain and simple for us, but I’m glad that you like Fighters and and it’s just plain and simple and you’ll drive an hour to see um these women of these women fight, okay, um.
So a big Serrano and bumgardner fan good um, I’m I I am a fan of how much growth they’re bringing to our industry right it.
It takes a lot to be in the spotlight and I I hope these girls show out really good on this card um because, like I said before, what a time to be a woman of boxer right, we we never headlining, Maine and co-maine what you know.
What I’m saying this is it’s it’s fantastic! It’S it’s history in the making, so um, I’m going, you know, speak a little bit more about because it um you guys, Eddie and and one round with uh with George.
We we have this matchup with shadisha green and versus uh Ellen setarus on this card that just got added.
I would say last minute this is I mean unless they’re promoting it like that right, I think they’ve been being new, that they were gon na um.
Put these broads on the card: it’s just! Maybe the paperwork didn’t come together, something like that and they you know finally, um added them or put them on that space.
Now I don’t know that’s another thing too.
I don’t know how the lineup is going to be on this card um.
So let me finish up with it with this bra talking about this broad okay, so majority decision win over Alicia Napoleon so um it looked like Alicia came close to the clipping clip in the Wings off uh Ellen setarus, right majority decision.
That means the one judge thought that Alicia actually won the fight.
So I mean that’s a good item on the receipt for both of them.
Okay, uh, both one was a champion.
One was a great contender majority decision.
That means they both showed out.
Okay, this this one, no tomato, can Paddington, match: okay and then lovely assistant uh.
Let’S, let’s go on to the next image: let’s go into the next image: oh okay, so um! This is uh Ellen ceteru’s, most recent match, which was her versus franchon Cruz discern, and this was the night where uh French Sean took took the fight okay, so one the the decision, a unanimous decision.
That means all the judges thought of franchon Cruz uh be beat that ass enough to take the hardware and become the new champ.
Okay, um French on cruise was seven and one at the time.
So French on Cruz, is that one is uh.
I will say it’s Clarissa Shields because she was because she turned she debuted versus Clarissa’s Shield, so her and Clarissa they turned Pro by fighting each other at the same time on on the card.
So that’s how I remember that one okay, um franchon Cruz, discern she’s, not she’s, not known uh, for fighting per se.
She calls herself the diva okay, but she’s.
She is known for the diva [ __ ].
That do be happening.
You know when, when it comes to her getting in the ring and and her um tangling it up um she you know she brought came in, had to get her wig cut off the to finish the fight uh.
She she fought, someone who was um said to be uh, you know was a male who transitioned to female, so you know she she she.
She brings a lot of drama and Diva stuff to women’s boxing, which is very interesting, and it makes for a great show.
So um she also has a great amateur pedigree where she is a multi-world champion as an amateur, so she’s she’s been the top she’s been a top fighter in the world for a while, even though I mean Clarissa Shields, has what 12 plus like she.
I think 12 fights now 12 or 13 fights now and she’s she’s.
Only.
She only has like nine fights now so she’s she’s, just now getting to the 10 mark.
So on on this, this broad receipt receipts um.
She also has her her care.
She has four Ko’s with her at eight when one loss um record, okay and um.
I would say these are her kales okay, so she ko’d a fighter who was three wins: 24 losses uh out of Hungary.
Her name is uh.
This Fighter’s name is Claudia uh, Vai out of Hungary, okay um, but the reason why I’m bringing this up is because Claudia Vai is also on the receipt of uh fighter that has has drawn a lot of popularity in her in the Mega Match.
That recently happened.
Savannah Marshall so um this 3 and 24 fighter.
Yes, I said it: three wins: 24 losses fighter is one of Savannah.
Marshall’S 12 victories um, so it’s different right, um.
The the debate was previously.
You know is because when Savannah Marshall and Clarissa Shields fought both had O’s right, but both were undefeated both had around the same amount of fights.
I think they both had 11 or, I think, was it 11 or 12 fights something like that.
They had the same amount of fights.
Okay – and you know this is it’s it’s kind of cheesy at this point, but someone’s oh had to go right, and so they were arguing that uh Savannah Marshall’s 12 fights were just as substantial as Clarissa’s 12 fights, which I I disagree.
You know Savannah Marshall’s fights.
As you can see, there were no paddingtons on Clarissa Shields or in Clarissa Shields receipt.
Okay.
She she fought.
She fought many high-end contenders to earn her her her 12 and ooh, where Savannah Marshall was built.
With you know, Fighters like um, uh, Claudia uh, by now, who uh is you know, is 33 wins and 24 losses, my goodness um they used to.
They used to suspend Fighters women Fighters with with records like that because of the fear of them getting severely or hurt, or you know them actually um, possibly ending up dead or you know from from having these losses.
But what we’ve come to realize? Uh is um, maybe some of these 24 losses on uh, Claudia Vice record weren’t losses right.
Maybe she was in the wrong place.
Maybe you know she was handed some raw deals to where these 24 from these 24 losses may not right.
I haven’t seen this broad fight, so I’m not going to speak too much on it, but that may that may be the case um.
Then she went on to fighting um uh Sanya uh gosh me butcher this name, but it’s all in love, uh, Sonia ostich or Jake right um out of Bosnia, who was one win, one loss at that time, so she was a debut fighter and she fought.
She fought Sonia when she had fights under her belt, so uh to me when you, if you are, if you have more than three fights and you still fight and debut Fighters, you’re disgusting yeah, you are yeah right because you’re fighting someone who’s just getting their feet, Wet like someone who hasn’t even gotten comfortable in the ring and you’re, using that as an advantage after you’ve gotten comfortable in there to to take advantage of their um of their what’s my words, I’m losing my words taking advantage of their um inexperience right.
That’S not what this that can’t be what this is about and if you want to be a high-end Champion or a high-end Contender, we got ta.
Stop that right.
I’M I’m calling all y’all then for doing that.
It’S it’s disgusting! It’S cringe! Come on now! That’S like! That’S like playing: that’s like you are uh uh, a high school basketball player and you’re playing basketball against a team of elementary schools, uh students right and then you slam, dunking on them and [ __ ], and you claim in the win.
That’S how it really looks.
It’S that that’s how cringe it looks Michael work times in Tomball, hey sugar, hey Mike thanks for coming to see me we on here talking about this um addition to the Amanda uh, Serrano and Erica Cruz fight um in shadesha, green versus Ellen uh ceteros.
I’M I’m kind of running down, Ellen’s uh, skid row and and what her um, what her record looks like you know what her receipt is.
Looking like Mike tell me what you think of this broad right, you you out there.
You know the thing you you know.
The thing and you talk the talk on on Fridays, about these women boxers um.
How do you feel right tell me tell me tell me what you know tell me what you think about this, so um then going into uh Ellen uh Ellen’s KO right.
She has three Kos.
Well, she has four Kos, but I’m the these three Kos on her record is is what I’m focusing on, because um the these people have points that I need y’all to look at right.
I need y’all to look because people people have records and, oh KO, you know people get excited about the Kos but who’s uko.
Who did you KO right? Who did you go in there and stop? Did you stop a a strong Contender, or did you stop somebody that really shouldn’t even been matched up with you right? I have to right people, people ask sugar.
Well, what is it going to take, for you know um people to to to respect women’s boxing and to give these women their their due.
It’S gon na take us calling or yeah it’s going to take us knowing when it’s day on some [ __ ] right, because then, when you you’ll love the ones who are authentically out there doing it.
You’Ll love the ones who that did earned the KO because they some bad broughties, because they put that [, __, ], together and – and you know, put them put the broad down right.
There was no backyard back alley Shenanigans and they earned you know they earned that that that win in that fashion, instead of people patting or putting matchmaking, you know predatory, matchmaking and all and all that gross um in ethical stuff.
That happens and that’s been happening in this game.
We’Ve got to stop that um, the last KO that I’m taught that I I will mention on Ellen’s sidoro’s, uh, ceteros uh record is uh Florence uh with methony yeah.
I think that’s her name, Florence methony, who is 12, wins seven losses and two draws the thing and she’s out of Kenya.
So This Record is a Kenyan 12 wins seven losses, two draws: okay, but but but um this uh Florence uh methony’s got some items on her receipt, so she fought the likes of uh Delphine person.
Okay and y’all know Delphine fights up to um Delphine fights between um, I think feather was she.
She fought between featherweight and lightweight okay, so this is the number right so from 130 right up to 135, okay foreign.
This broad, then fought femke, Herman and y’all know femke was fighting middleweight 160.
okay.
So this is a drastic jump in between opposition 30 pounds.
Okay, so this is an item on Florence’s receipt.
These are the items on Florence’s receipt.
Then she fought Christina Hammer.
Who is a heavyweight okay, so Christina Hammer fights up there um well light heavyweight 170, something 70, something up there: okay, so Florence um methony, okay, she she extended herself, okay, she’s.
She has enough items on her receipt.
I would say to still be a contender.
Her record she’s still winning.
She still has a winning record from what I could see with 12 wins and seven losses, but she’s kind of tilting.
Now because um her win-loss ratio is, is you know her? Her losses now exceed her um half of her winnings? Okay, so that’s how you do it like, when, when a Fighter’s losses exceed half or go more than half of the fights that they’ve actually won, they that’s how you determine what kind of contender they are.
Okay now this is like I said it’s an African uh.
12 win seven losses, two draws, but the fact that she’s gotten into the ring with these this type of opposition still makes her a decent Contender right, because um these these names are using her to um to to build themselves.
So she had she had to have proposed some kind of problem to them right so um I mean even she, even if she got ko’d, Okay, so um.
These are the items, and this is you know this is the broad uh Ellen uh sitarus.
Now I watched, I watched her fight um.
I watched her fight.
I watched her fight um, the last person I watched.
The fight was uh friend, Sean Cruz discern and I’m gon na tell you this.
You will fall asleep watching her ass, because she’s very mechanical and slow, but she’s not afraid to leak, and she will always leak in there.
Yes, she’s one of those that she ain’t moving her head, she’s boom and she’s, going to keep coming like Frankenstein boom boom and keep coming like Frankenstein till you bust her all up and she’s leaking and she’s still gon na keep coming.
I think her blood motivates her.
I hate fighting people like that.
To be honest right, that’s just that’s a bit of sanguine in me right! Oh, when you get your blood and boogers on me, it’s gross.
I got ta, stop this [ __ ]! Now you know what I’m saying so um and and to be honest, that is, that is something that can win a fight.
You know that is something that can affect the psyche of a fighter and and and can be used right.
So she knows her blood.
Can you imagine someone walking to you drenched in Blood and you’re, hitting them and they’re still walking to you like a zombie? That’S going kinda, that’s gon na freak, some real ones out who ain’t built for this? You know you got to be built to you got to be built to bludgeon somebody right.
So if your conscience starts coming through and starts like working on you, because this is, she keeps coming and she keeps bleeding, and she you see her, you see her life slowly, leaving her she’ll she’ll catch up to you and she’ll she’ll end up beating you.
If, if you’re, not locked in and if the Savage ain’t as strong um, so Michael Oher comes in and um, we want to talk about yeah.
So Michael Oher comes in talking about who we, who we about to um, who we about to chat up on uh, shadesha, green, okay, so um Mike chimes in and says green was three was a three kings Prospect of the year before getting signed to MVP Jake Paul who are the three kings, though the three kings, who who Prospect of the year you know like these Awards and all of that stuff um we got something’s coming right, something’s being put together.
Something is in the works right now.
That’S gon na you know really really put these Awards and all of these these these credentials in their place right because I don’t know who the three kings is Prospect of the Year.
Well, what other prospects do y’all got? Who what other prospects do? Y’All have for me to be impressed about this Pro about you nominating this.
You know Prospect of the year uh lovely assistant.
Can you change the image? Please please? Oh, that’s another shot right there.
Let’S talk about it, just real quick.
We won’t chime back now.
The thing about this, too, the reason why this is the reason why this clip made it is boy, I tell you, the performance, there’s a performance in every matchup and and it’s a performance like some some of these broads.
They the way they fight is their brand.
The all of the all of us broads, the way we fight is our brand okay and I I’ma say beautiful woman, beautiful woman.
She made um me and her have gotten into it.
She done blocked me on social media, French on Cruz.
I don’t care, but I’ll say beautiful, woman uh, except for when she’s fighting boy you ain’t, never seen an ugly abroad in the fight right.
She like she, she ain’t gon na, be the one smooth in it right.
She gon na bring out the ugly you know she gon na show you her ugly in a match and so um.
You know an unorthodox, just ugly ugly punches ugly everything, but it’s entertaining you know and she comes out.
She comes out the diva after that.
So you know very entertaining um her versus uh, her versus Ellen was was just entertaining in that way.
Where you know you just she laid some leather on Ellen’s ass in there I’m telling you and Ellen just kept coming, I was like.
Is she feeling any of those shots like she’s just Frankenstein up in that mug? I was like okay um, you know, so that’s why this clip made it and and she seemed to be handling but boy um franchise had her leaking in there.
She was all bloody loved, her outfit.
I love the both of their outfit that night um.
You know with the um.
What do y’all call it uh? What do you um with the pleather with the pleather tank top and and the um black and gold uh? Roman Roman, skirt and and uh a friend Sean Clues.
It cruising there with the with the gray ape with the with the grape per with the perp uh sequins in there uh shining and glistening it it.
It looked good.
It looked good.
I liked I liked to to watch that, because the um they did have person that showed their personality, um outfit, behind their fighting in in their wardrobe and and just in how they were handled themselves in there.
So I liked it um lovely assistant is there is: is there anything else? Is there any other um pictures? Okay? So now we talking about shadesha, Green okay, so three kings, Prospect, um Michael Orr, says um.
Three kings is a website that provides boxing news great great.
So, who are the other prospects? Who are the other prospects like who, like they, they Prospect in women’s Fighters out there? I just the reason why I’m asking you’re going to see why I’m being a smartass about this right because um, I got to say it, somebody’s gon na say it um, she’s, suspect, she’s, suspect and I’m not saying that the broad might not be able to fight And I’m not been saying she ain’t nothing but um.
I looked at her receipt um how you gon na make somebody a prospect of the year when they ain’t done much.
You know what I’m saying save your breath, but I told y’all out here that these these news sources – you know they they getting bought they’re getting paid they’re getting favors right.
They then for for putting for putting people’s gals in on a ranking list on the list.
On the spotlight, but that’s not helping that’s not helping with women’s boxing right, do it.
You can do it with the men right.
The men got, Got Deep Pockets, but we don’t have we.
We don’t have deep enough pools and pockets of women and contenders for you to be bullshitting people right there.
I always say this: there are contenders out there that deserve these awards that deserve to be prospects of the year right and you’re supposed to be.
Given boxing news – and you can’t find you can’t you – you can’t find the names you’re supposed to be serving the public and giving them information, and you bullshitting people.
I think that’s disrespectful.
That’S why I always as much as as much as uh Sue, hey Sue.
I hope you’re watching uh Sue off of um Sue Fox from the Bible of women’s boxing wban right.
If you want to know something about a woman boxer, you go to wban the women’s boxing archive Network.
Okay, one thing Sue ain’t, never done she done.
She had her favorites, but she ain’t never lied on abroad and she makes sure she put people together on her boards and stuff that she tries to be objective and she tries to give everyone a fair chance.
Even though sue you be having your favorites, but I love you anyway.
You’Ve been here for you’ve been here for sugar, you’ve been out there for all of us, and I love you for that.
I’M always saying um, so you know I’m sure on check it out check out the wban website.
You’Ll you’ll see a list of broads deserving of many awards and all of a sudden, the three kings come out and think that they can talk about a woman, a woman boxer and saying that she, a pro if you’re giving information, do the work just like suing Them right, um, Eddie, montavillo right.
He he been out there he’ll tell you um what you know the ABC’s and it ain’t that you know: ABC’s you finding in Alpha alphabet soup, right he’s, he’s written articles and he’s done the research and he’s actually rolled his sleeves up and helped the broads in The game right so he’ll tell you right he’s about to start a podcast too I’m supporting everybody out here.
I want everybody to talk about talk.
This talk about women’s boxing because it’s interesting interesting, it is um, so um Michael Orr, says uh Green’s.
Boxing was only meant to supplement her basketball training, a way to get in shape and improve her footwork without having to pound the pavement.
Yeah yeah everybody got a story right.
So yes, she’s, a former basketball player, that’s what I got from it um and the thing about it is what people don’t know is basketball and boxing are cousins, but they are the only two sports where you’re doing two different things simultaneously.
So you’re doing one thing with your feet and doing another thing with your hand, at the same time and you’re also moving and stuck in and jiving very much so a basketball anybody, who’s good at basketball just might be a good fighter too right.
So I’ve seen a lot of Fighters um dude.
I I’ve seen a lot of Fighters, uh uh.
Sorry, a lot of basketball players try their hand at at boxing and and some of them some of them is good out here.
Some of them was is good.
Um Micah also says: look at you supplementing the giving me all this information.
Green was one of the best high school players in the state.
We not talk.
We so we’re not going to talk about her basketball career right.
Y’All can look that up.
Y’All.
Could Google that Google it talking about [ __ ]? These are green as a fighter.
Okay, so give me a second y’all, sorry y’all for the um, sorry y’all for the for the interruption right.
I got got some going on over here, which um on this on this end of the camera: okay, but um, we’re not going to talk about shadisha Green’s career right as a basketball player.
Okay, that’s great, that’s Kudos! That adds to who she is as a fighter, but who is she as a fighter? That’S what’s important.
Now that’s what we here to talk about um, so Michael Oher is saying what I’m saying now: green really hasn’t fought anybody um.
You know she’s she’s, 33 years old, okay, so she’s still a young broad out here: um she’s, five foot, eight inches and Michael or chimes in saying that she started boxing at 15 years old, so, okay, so she been invited.
She started boxing that fish she’d been fighting for she’d been boxing for 15 years.
You’Ve been boxing, so I mean that that adds even more to this, because she she also has a great uh Emmy background amateur background.
She’S fought internationally um and she was on Team.
Usa, so she’s she’s from the pedigree she she’s from the pedigree of um USA boxing I like sugar, um, Michael or Johnson.
She has a 6-0 record as an amateur bruh.
We we gon na, stop right here.
Okay, Mike you ain’t telling me you didn’t just chime in and tell me that she only fought six amateur fights as an amateur.
You uh, you forgot a tool like you, you should have there should be a did.
You forget to type the two win, because you I see 6-0 Michael you confirming that she only had she’s 6-0.
She only fought six amateur fights and she made it internationally.
Listen, y’all! What a bad [ __ ] is that come on! Now you tell me uh, uh abroad, that’s only had six fights made it to an international made it on Team USA, where the bad [ __ ] at come on.
Now it never used to be this way.
It never used to be this way.
Y’All nah.
We had Devon Kennedy heavyweight first Devon Kennedy: first um gold medalist to earn the first fighter female fighter right.
The the bonus issue was U.
S.
She was a U.
S.
She was on Team USA with me right.
I had I um.
No.
That was when I was on team.
Jamaica right, uh Team USA did listen.
This is in the Memoirs Team, USA, um slighted me or robbed me on some [ __ ] Shenanigans versus a New York fighter.
Oh, she was really good, but I had to scare her out of my division um, so I ended.
They kicked me out of the running for to be on Team USA to go to the first Women’s World Championships in history right, so they thought they was going to cut uh too bad out, but they didn’t know that too bad was better right and too bad Became the first Jamaican woman to fight or to box period in the history of Jamaica um and represent Jamaica and um, and this is the country like, I said the country of my ancestors, so it was, it was like a real heartfelt thing.
I didn’t I I didn’t.
I never dreamed that I would do something so special um and so yeah the tea.
The the Jamaican boxing board took me with open arms um, Mr and Mrs Brown um, and no relation either.
There’S a lot of Browns in Jamaica.
Go figure so um they took me like with open arms and and and I got a silver for the country of Jamaica and no no, nobody from Jamaica has brought home no Hardware ever since so I’m still in history, as the only woman to have meddled on A world stage for the little island with little but with talawa of Jamaica, so put that in your history, books, um right that and that’s a little education for you.
So getting back to the shadesha, okay and listen, I’m gon na say this too.
I wouldn’t know it wasn’t no 6-0 or whatever sugar sugar was what, when I, when I went to the world championships as an amateur I was I had.
I had something like 60 fights, yeah yeah I had a lot of, and that was for amateur female too.
I was fighting everybody I was.
I was fighting.
I was fighting at Club um and the club show tournament everywhere, like I was discouraged of of the welterweight division 147 when they had it um anyway.
So you know she she’s what you know this shadesha green.
She I mean she just she got the paperwork like she’s.
She checked some boxes, but um.
My thing about her is like, if, if, if you bad on the world stage and and you did you’re you’re second in the world at this, I mean who you, who you, why you ain’t, fighting nobody as a pro you’re, 11 and old, and you a hot Fart out here and it ain’t a diss, but I said what I said too: Miss green.
Like I ain’t scared.
I ain’t scared.
I ain’t, never scared right.
I just want to know like you, you look like you.
Have all the you look like you: have all the right ingredients together to just be a a better Prospect than you actually are and, like I said, um is women out here that have earned it.
That should be on these platforms.
That should have these chances and, like I I just don’t – I I’m not buying I’m not buying what you selling just yet uh shadesha green um, Tony’s reviews comes, and it says, hair on fleek long time keep up the good work.
Hey it’s holidays.
Making me blush.
Thank you you like it, you like it.
Thank you.
Thank you.
You know what like the thing about sugar too, with the hair like y’all, didn’t see me go through a lot of looks and a lot of hair um sugar sugar is just really simple.
You know, like I put it together and it just happens to just happen this way.
Um Mike said he liked my hands.
I I cut I I cut my bangs, I the bangs so might like that too.
So, thank you Tony and thank you Mike.
Thank you.
All out there for noticing uh wish you could do that it.
It’S priceless when you make a woman, feel pretty I’m telling you that keep doing it, keep doing it.
It don’t matter it don’t matter, but it don’t matter what she’s, what she um, what she say.
After, if you say something nice to a woman and make her feel pretty, you got her just like y’all got me um some women Boxing Channel chiming in talking about don’t take the stats on amateur BoxRec.
Literally ever it may State fine too, but she probably fought around 30 or 40 fights on minor competitions too.
You don’t get to USA level without a decent record women Boxing Channel, I’m I’m uh.
Let let me educate you should these are green ain’t, come up like how sugar the last the The Last of the Mohicans of that era that fought Underground and came into the amateurs was the likes of Veronica Simmons sugar, Alicia Ashley um? Who else is it? Who else was out here doing it doing it on um, on the straight and hour and and underground, like we us once US veterans that started the Emmy game like started traveling, we were the ones that um was doing 30 40 underground fights, and then you know Hoping to get legitimate fights on the emery team and the thing about it is if, if you got found out for doing underground fights, they were going USA.
Boxing was going to kick your ass off the off the team or off the roster so like it was really.
It was really like.
I would never now that I’m out out of it, I would never admit some of the things that I’ve done all right.
I previously uh just to fight as a fighter right.
I did like I’ma just leave it at that: okay um.
We we can have a hot and heavy Memoir coming or interview coming.
You know soon, but uh shadesha, green ain’t do no 30 or 45s no underground or nowhere else yeah.
She was in a dead weight, division, yeah um.
They have zombie weight divisions, okay and the the big girls they not focused on the big broads, no more like they used to be um, like I said: Keisha, snow, Tiffany, Logan them broads that were fighting underground and then fighting Golden Gloves.
New York Golden Gloves and things like that, you know what I’m saying when when amateur was our probe.
You know that was that.
That was the time.
Shadesha green is a youngin she’s 33 right um.
She was still in.
I would say she she was still um in pull-ups or something she was still wet into bed when some of us was fire.
Some of us who was actually fighting underground was fighting um.
Women’S Boxing Channel also says fact: is she’s been out three times in uh 2022, so she’s doing okay, considering she ain’t with a big backer um.
Let me educate you again.
Women’S Boxing Channel see a lot of y’all out.
There seem to think that backers come to women.
No most of us don’t have backers very few, very few, very, very few female fighters.
Women Fighters have backers.
If you get a backer, you have won the lottery okay, so it ain’t necessary for you to have a backer to be out here.
Fighting right, you can still extend yourself.
You can still show who you are um.
You can still be a valid contender.
That’S why I’m so hard on these broads out here, because it we haven’t, made it yet y’all y’all out here fighting two minutes and ain’t fighting.
Nobody in two minutes, y’all are not even out there.
I could see if you know that we fighting three minute rounds because, like I said when that third minute kick in it’s because it’s made the best woman win, it’s made, May the bad [ __ ] and baddest [ __ ] make it to the end right To fight three minute rounds, you got you got to have your head on straight, it’s a different animal, but to go in there and dance around like.
I could dance around for 30 seconds right and then I can throw some shots for another 30 seconds.
That’S half the round right, I dance around again and then come on now you it ain’t, a fight, it’s not a fight.
I said it right talk to talk to them old, school broads that were fighting three that have fought three minutes that had to go in there and fight that I I started when I started my amateur career.
Amateur women were fighting three minute rounds, just like the guys, and it was tough um Michael Orr says green – has dropped 40 pounds to fight super middle.
She believes she has the skills to match up with anyone in including franchon Cruz.
So we’re going to talk about that.
That’S why you know I brought up um the diva uh, franchon Cruz, because um that’s, who she’s gunning for right and it seemed like it seems like that they’re trying to gon na, because the super middleweight right now is a zombie weight division, ain’t, nobody rallying there Clarissa Shields done left it the money’s, not in that division, no moan right – and I don’t see I maybe Jake Paul – got a plan and shadesha green, but um The Ellen, cedaro, Etc.
Certainly wasn’t bringing no money to the division and there weren’t any names in in that division anymore, right um, whoever should be uh, Oksana Castillo done, went up to 200 damn pounds she need to come back down.
She would have been great at Super middleweight um.
I think uh, I I think, instead of going up to heavyweight that um Hannah Gabrielle should should have rallied at uh one 168 super middle as well right.
I I think, there’s some good contenders that, instead of chasing uh Clarissa could have made a good little pool in the in the division that would it would drive interest, a contender would have come up, money would be generating Like A Champion.
A real Champion would have made the division something, but everyone wants to chase the everyone wants to chase the Golden Goose instead of making a legacy for themselves right and and to me that that that’s the thing, that’s that’s missing about women with women’s boxing right now, Like you know, um you, you have to be you you have to you.
You got to be nasty enough, freaky enough to bring eyes on you in your division right.
You got to be that broad that people are interested in, like ebony Bridges.
Look at her right.
She doesn’t come out nasty and freaking nice and we love her.
I like her she’s, making a name for herself right and she’s doing it thirst trapping, but it can be all different kind of ways right all different kind of ways, all different kind of contenders um.
I’M just making a note here because I’m going to bring this up in a little bit um, let’s see, let me read a little bit about what I said.
You know.
I love the conversation.
I love where it’s going.
Thank you guys for chiming in um, women’s boxing channel has come in with some interesting information.
Women’S Boxing Channel says I’m more interested in 147 right now, mccaskill’s been stripped of the ibf 147, so it’ll be interesting to see who gets first dibs on the vacant title there.
They should have stripped her of all all her titles.
How the hell is she holding on to the other ones? She she had.
You have to vacate to move down and fight a fighter for a lesser um for a lesser division’s belts, and she did that in taking her chances.
Uh versus Chantelle Cameron, okay and she got her block dusted right, so she should not be holding on to none of those 147 belts, but I mean, I guess, we’ll see what happens with that um.
So she’s been stripped of the ibf 147 it’s vacant! Well, uh.
Women’S Boxing Channel, who do you think who do you see? Who would you like to capture that 147 uh crown or belt um out of all of these contenders out here? That can make 147.
very interesting to to see um, because you know your stuff, you you you do your studies, you a book guy um.
I I want to know who um um – I I ain’t gon na start teasing you about about it yet, but I’m I’m just wondering who who who who would you like to have that belt um? So I wrote this.
You know, like I said, shadisha green is fighting like this.
Matchup is like this is a big like this is uh.
This is a Paramount um match in women’s boxing in the rankings, because, all of a sudden this is an Eliminator okay.
This matchup, these are green versus Ellen uh.
Ceteros is an eliminated.
Uh Eliminator match um for the WBC title: okay, um with you.
Whoever wins in this matchup gets to challenge franchon Cruz again or chat challenge friend, Sean Cruz.
The Undisputed super middleweight champion for her WBC belt.
Okay, so that’s why this you know that’s why this interests me right, because um uh, Ellen, etc for damn sure ain’t.
She ain’t calling my name when it comes to me spending minutes to watch nobody fight.
I got better things like should I could do so many.
I could do so much more with what was two times with with the 20 minutes to uh 25 minutes.
I would have I’d be using up in my life to watch her fight again.
I’M I’m just saying you know it’s I’ve seen enough of her outfits and I’m not a fan of watching another broad leak in there unless she’s, unless she doing it like how Christy Martin used to do it and and all them other um leaders who used to Fight um, when the blood started to pour um so yeah the so these are green is 11-0 with 11k.
Oh sorry, 11-0 uh with 10 Kos, as you guys can see.
Okay, the Undisputed Champion Fran Sean Cruz is eight wins one loss and only two Kos.
One of my titles was watch the game, not the score, and this is also an example of that.
So here comes shadesha.
Green who’d done lost 40 pounds girl, congratulations! Anybody who’s lost that.
That much of themselves is determined.
Okay, 40 pounds.
I don’t know what kind of fighter she is at 40 pounds um.
She she was, she was slow and she you know she needed a bit more action as a heavyweight um, she’s called uh, one of women’s boxing’s, Best Kept Secrets um.
I beg to differ right.
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