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EPISODE: Episode 1
Join Natalie Brown who discusses the growing sport of women’s boxing. She’ll dive deep into the incredible journeys, from the early training days to their biggest fights, as well as the challenges they’ve faced along the way. With inspiring stories of hard work, dedication and true grit, this episode will provide an inside look at the empowering and exciting world of women’s boxing.
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Engineers, [ Music, ], all right, y’all, hey! What’S up, what’s up it’s sugar here? Finally, oh my gosh, so my peoples, they don’t, we don’t cut up with each other and we’re gon na have a show tonight.
Y’All sorry, so we got started a little bit late.
I am Natalie sugar brown, your sugar here and uh.
This is my show for those who are uh new.
This is uh.
The Natalie sugar brown show where I uh woman, boxer um who’s been in the industry, been there done that um has some good days at the office and some bad days at the office, but just know this girl.
This gal was in it to win it, and so this is my platform now to give you guys the authentic insights of a woman boxer and what goes on in women’s boxing we’re going on in women’s boxing, for you all who’s, keeping up with it.
Okay, so um, I always say this to my audience.
Um.
Ask me just ask me, ask me what you need to ask me.
Ask me anything: you don’t have to know about women’s boxing to chime in on the Natalie sugar brown show we’re having a conversation, a nice good, old, organic sweet conversation about how the women out here do the sweet science of boxing Okay, so uh tonight’s show um Tonight’S show is catching up from last week.
Y’All know sugar had um.
Sugar was at a rave last week.
Okay, I had me a time.
I had me a time and I had to tune in you guys because they went and stole my show time and I couldn’t do the show uh uh last week.
So I gave you guys a a like a preview of what we want to talk about.
What we’re going to talk about, uh, tonight’s show and so tonight’s show is called the gag is ordered, and I I’m you know that that’s the topic um I I um.
I chose that as the title, because um there’s a lot there there’s a lot going on.
Um uh out front Okay, so there’s a lot of stuff painted the picture’s been painted, but um the gag is what’s happening in on in the background.
Okay – and I want you guys to know about this because what glitters ain’t, gold, okay and what goal what’s gold? Might be Fool’s Gold and I want y’all to be abreast to that, because I want the right people making the money out here: okay and uh – I don’t I don’t see where um they setting up for the right people to be making this money that women’s boxing Is making out here? Okay? Now I always say Sage right this: this ain’t, no, no sugar! This show is not sugar coated sugar coating, and I mean there are many women Fighters out here to talk about okay, but we talking about I mean there’s the the subjects or the the women that I bring forward is are the ones who uh they’re they’re a Bit more popular and they what they do is um.
They play out what they they actually are playing out, what the issues are, and so I can Spotlight it better with these gals than or these broads um better than those who don’t really have a name as yet, because uh to have a name in this business.
Nowadays, uh you you’re only one fight away, you know so um my lovely assistant put together a little slideshow and so lovely assistant.
Can you drop the first image? Please all right, so you guys um this image right here.
Right here is about this matchup uh, Terry Harper versus Cecilia break us, okay and y’all know.
I I mean I need to get off her neck, but um Terry Harper is that it ain’t Terry Harper either it’s about it’s Cecilia.
I call it the bag of the lady right, because uh check out the LA check out the previous episodes right.
Um, Cecilia Breakers, is a chrome now and y’all know at this point.
For those who are true, y’all know what uh Crone is, but for those who are new, I’m going to explain quickly briefly.
So a crone in this business is a a female fighter who is over 35 years old, Okay, so she is matured in in the industry and – and you know, she’s her her um.
Her muscles are solid and her teeth are long, and that doesn’t necessarily mean that she is um past her prime, as a matter of fact, um being a pro a a crone between the ages of between 35 – and, I would say, 41 – is a woman.
Boxer’S actual Prime, because they’ve matured and they’ve developed into the fighter that they have been working all the years previously to be okay, so Cecilia bracos is a crow.
Now uh she’s, 41 years old and she’s fighting Terry Harper um, the gag is okay.
So the thing about this matchup is these are two: the um Cecilia Breakers is a crone who got dethroned by uh, her 147 welterweight um Reign, for I think it I mean.
I think it was damn near um, 20 years, um reign of of being the Undisputed um women’s Welterweight Champion uh, her Reign was dethroned.
She was dethroned by Jessica mccaskill, who I mean I’m just waiting to see what the shenanigans are, because uh she’s um.
I think she’s I I mean what it looked like is she’s waiting us out, because she think we gon na forget that um she’s not supposed to be no 147 champion, because she decided to try to go down to 140 pounds and fight Chantal Cameron uh.
To be the Undisputed Junior Welterweight Champion so 140 pounds, Junior, welterweight or super lightweight championship, and so when you’re a champion of One Division and you go down to challenge a contender for titles in another division, especially a lesser weight.
That means you.
You um vacate your title.
You vacate your seat where you are because you’re trying to take another seat somewhere else right, especially if you lose so she lost uh, Jessica, mccaskill, uh lost uh in the match, uh between her and uh Chantel Cameron and um.
Now it’s she’s gone silent, she’s gone silent and I think her and um.
Well, you know she’s.
She acts she’s the robot for um, her her manager and I think trainer uh Ramos um they’re, just waiting until hopefully uh people forget, or we forget that um that technicality has to be um.
That has to be acknowledged and and hopefully they’re hoping that she can jump back and claim to be the welterweight champion.
But you know I digress.
These two uh here, uh, Cecilia brekas and Terry Harper – are now matching up at 154 pounds.
Okay, so Terry Harper um used to rally at um, I believe 130 pounds, okay, which is lightweight from what I understand.
Okay, so um rallying in the 130 pounds – and it looked like you know, the the making the weight was hard for her, and so she got knocked out by uh the girl, the the the girl who just had a wonderful showing performance, Alicia, bumgardner um.
She fought uh, Ella, mccolled and and dropped mccaulette a couple times in the fight showing that she is the the dominant she she is the dominant fighter in the ring and although uh Ellen mccolled is a great Contender uh, she uh she was not ready.
She wasn’t ready to try to come test, uh the bomb, Alicia, bumgardner and and take and take those belts off of her so um Terry Harper, now in losing her footing as a champion in uh the Lesser weight Division, I believe of 130 uh has moved up.
Uh almost 20 pounds to uh middleweight 154 pounds, and so you guys that knows boxing should know that that’s a substantial jump, okay, uh two pounds makes a difference in in boxing, so to jump that High um and and be a a contender is, is very um.
Impressive and so Terry Harper is trying to now rally at this middleweight and she’s she’s, trying to now stand out in this weight division as uh, if not the champion as one of the uh most dominant contenders, uh rated in this division now Cecilia break us is A crone she’s been dethroned at 147 and it looks like um that you know time has gotten to us and when you get the Chrome ship, you really don’t feel like making no damn weight.
When you in Chrome ship, you like, I can fight it ain’t, but a couple extra pounds.
Let’S get it, and so I think that’s what Cecilia uh Breakers has done now right, she’s moved up to 154.
.
I also think she knows that uh going down to 147 would um.
She would have to perform still okay and um, not even that she would have to perform against uh mccaskill.
I I do believe on mccaskill’s finances has helped her to uh.
Keep those titles to keep her titles at 147, because um um that there is she has not shown Jessica mccaskill has not shown where she is um.
She is fighting um, the the opposition that she should fight to make that weight, division, uh, uh, um uh.
I don’t want to say respectable, but make that weight, division, uh valuable right now, right you’re, the contenders are who makes the decision valuable.
So if there are no contenders in a division, that division loses its value because there’s no bodies to generate interest and without interest ain’t, no money being put on the table.
Okay, so 147 has become a weak division, because these the champion, has chosen to um fight or yeah, has chosen um chosen to not um extend herself in fighting the the opposition that brings value to her weight division right um.
At this point in women’s boxing, the value does um the champion or the top contenders.
The belt holders in the division do dictate the value of the division right.
So if you’re a belt holder and you ain’t busting a grape and you ain’t fight, nobody and you on that bull Jive.
Well, guess what that’s! What your division is going to be because no one’s seeing what the value is and your value you are are just as good as your performance.
Hence why uh people you know pad records and and fight tomato cans, because they want people to think that they’re fighting uh the contenders in the division and uh these contenders are um are are not um, no are not up to par, which the gag is they’re.
Just not these Champions just are not choosing the um valuable opposition in their weight division; okay, so [ Music, ] um, I’m gon na just gon na outline what this matchup uh is looking like: okay, so Cecilia um, well, Terry Harper is there on the left.
Okay and uh, like I said Terry Harper – is 26 years old, she’s a young Broad in the game.
Okay, I didn’t even realize she was that young um, so she has some time she got some time she got.
She got a good 10 years before she reaches Crone ship, so uh according to the industry, and according to anyone who wants to invest into women’s boxing, she is, she would be um the she would be the most um.
What word am I trying to find? She would be the most attractive between the two because um there is potential for longevity um in her career, so she has more time to fight and she has more time to develop and she has more time to bring money and and draw value to wherever she Is as long as she’s moved properly, okay, and as long as she stays healthy, physically and mentally okay, so uh, then we go into her record, so her record um, she has 13 wins one loss by chaos, uh Alicia from Garner killed her and uh.
One draw.
Okay, uh she’s one six of her 13 victories by KO, so she has a little bit she’s, I mean everyone, I guess, if you not koing anyone you’re, you you’re, really not saying anything dirty now, Kos are the thing, but when women’s boxing was really authentic, it Was hard to it was hard to KO another broad right um, because the the earlier women or the old school women were actually getting in the ring with um opposition that was comparable to them, who were very skilled, just like them, who trained just as hard as Them – and it was more so not a a side – B-side BS type of thing.
It was May the best woman win right, um and and made the best woman win, meaning we’re just we’re just grateful that we have the opportunity to step into the ring.
And what we’re going to do is we’re going to leave it all in here, because um women don’t get this opportunity.
So you you’re gon na get the best out of both women in the old school at those times, because they knew that uh.
There was no place reserved for them, so this this may very well be their last, showing okay um.
Terry Harper is ranked number two in the UK in the in her weight division of 154 and she’s ranked number three in the world: okay, so um top five.
The this is a top five contender um at this weight, not sure right, I I guess um with those who are chiming in um.
I want you all to think about this right.
If you, if, if um we’re going by the rankings and what’s on paper, you know, ask yourself: oh what does it take? What does it take for abroad to get ranked? What does it take for a broad to get that spot number two uh in in her country number three in the world at this point.
To be honest, all it takes is a phone call: okay, um, I’m gon na, be quite honest, um.
I think uh box wreck, who, who is the I mean, who is the um, the the database for the fighters and and all of this and all of that um should should put more um, should put more prerequisites um into why uh they rank a contender.
A certain way and how they rank contenders, a certainly um and so Terry’s last opponent, uh was Hannah.
Rankin, okay and Hannah Rankin uh kinda is is laying low.
She she had a victory, but what she’s known for is her previous uh showing um? Well, her previous victory over um, a fighter named Alessandra from I believe, uh Alessandro was from Mexico, where Alessandra was was beaten, uh into uh a coma, well beaten, uh so badly that they had to induce a glaucoma and that she’s never been the same since okay.
So I think um uh, that that the fight there with uh Hannah Rankin was mismanaged and it it really put a black eye on all who were involved.
The the promoter of that fight, uh, the boxing commission, the referee and all of that so Hannah has had to step back out of her Spotlight that she was trying to make um and and and so she’s she has.
She only has her name Hannah ranking right now, but her name is on uh Terry broad, uh, Terry Harper’s receipt.
Okay, so Terry Harper has that Victory and Hannah Rankin is a big she’s, a big, broad.
Okay.
She is a solid 154.
.
She fought Clarissa Shields, okay and y’all know Clarissa it um.
She got that, oh still, so that Clarissa beat Hannah Rankin, but uh Hannah Rankin was a contender that danced the whole dance with Clarissa Shields.
So if she’s uh Hannah Rankin is um Terry, if Terry Harper is dancing the whole dance with a fighter, who’s done the same thing with Clarissa Shields, now she’s showing you what her value is at this weight, she’s showing you guys that you know, I’m moved from Lightweight and I’m dancing with the big broads, just like the champion, uh Clarissa is doing so check on me right and so um just want to uh bring some attention, though, to what the what the um number that I want you to look at with this fighter.
Terry Harper, Terry Harper, has um.
She has a good receipt.
She she she has items and um they’re they’re moving her um very good on paper, but at the end of the day you are only as good as your fights or your last fights and so um.
Terry Harper has a 40 KO rate, but her 40 KO rate right does not transfer over into what she does as a middleweight right – and this is this – is the gag right box right.
We gon na get to you we’re going to get to talking to you because I got ta keep bringing you up.
Boxrec has her KO percentage at 40 percent, but the 40 percent does not include her new weight division of 154 pounds so you’re.
Looking at this fighter and you’re like damn, she, she got a high KO rate for a female um, but nobody checks the receipts right.
So the gag is in not knowing that most of her Kos were from her initial um entry into boxing at a much lighter Division and lesser opposition.
Okay, so she’s valuable, but um you, you got ta check the receipt in order to um, really see the true value of this contender in the 154 weight division.
So her being ranked number two in the uh, I mean number three in the world at 154 pounds.
That’S very suspect, okay, and what we want to do is we want to keep the industry honest right, that’s what the sugar show is about.
We we there.
This is the platform that we’re going we’re going dead, all the bull, Jive.
Okay, so then we’re gon na go into you to run down of Cecilia back breakfast, okay, the better lady.
I got ta sing it y’all.
I got ta singer, I I got ta sing it she been around all these years.
Why not? Why? Why can’t sing her song wink wink? Okay, that’s not! That’S me! I’M gon na be open.
Uh! That’S me put my foot on her neck right for for avoiding me all them years and and and and doing what she did uh, where, where she she stifled the good contenders career right.
It wasn’t all about um me fighting Cecilia breakouts, but I mean the champion makes the decision division so damn throw a a bone anyway.
Um so Cecilia break us, okay been in the game for a very long time, so her number gon na be big, like she’s gon na have a lot of items on her receipt and she’s fought uh opposition in her weight division.
That’S one thing: Cecilia Breakers ain’t! Gon na do she not gon na fight outside of no 147.
You going that that dial going going hit the number it’s going to hit the number okay, so Cecilia Breakers is technically uh welterweight to middleweight real Contender.
Okay, uh 37 victories 37, wins two losses: okay, uh and and zero draws.
I mean you’ve been in the industry for all those years.
All these years, you’ve had all these fights.
This is women’s boxing y’all and you ain’t had no draw and you’ve had them.
Okay; okay, I guess: okay, um uh out of the 37 uh victories, nine of Cecilia Breakers victories, have been Kos but check the receipt of the chaos.
Okay and you got to go even deeper because she her um her people, her people, orchestrated it nicely um a lot of Fighters are coming forward now about the shenanigans of going over to Cecilia bright, because you had to go.
She never left her porch.
You had to go over to her uh side of town or you got to had you had to fight her in her yard and uh the inviting her you’re gon na fight the ref you’re going to fight the commission.
You’Ve gon na fight everybody, when you step off that plane and when you start heading to the ranks right, so they gon na make sure they beat you up.
However, they can, before you actually get in the ring and then when you were getting when you’re in the ring with Cecilia um you’re fighting two people instead of one right, because that ref uh watch Cecilia break us as fights and and you’ll definitely see um.
The Ref tag team in uh for for for the bad lady for your girl there, it’s quite interesting, um and so Cecilia’s last opponent, uh well, Cecilia, is ranked number one in Norway.
Okay, so she’s always represented Norway.
Well, she represented Germany at one time, um and but she’s ranked number one in Norway for sure.
Now, that’s what’s on record okay and she’s ranked number one in the world at 154 pounds.
This is what I’m seeing on BoxRec on BoxRec y’all.
I just don’t understand how this how this this Crone is ranked number one in a division that she’s never actually fought.
In recently, she has not fought in that Division and um.
If she has, it has been some time where other people have been actively fighting in this division right, uh name so to speak, Natasha Jonas.
So I don’t understand y’all help me out so um her last opponent.
Uh is uh, Marissa, Portillo and I’ve gone.
You know gone back into um.
I’Ve gone back into the receipts, but you know I mentioned this in uh.
Early earlier show uh, where um Marissa Portillo is, is actually not even uh a middleweight right, so she uh she rallies at as low as 125 or has a rally that as low as 125 125 pounds.
So um you know hand picking oppositions so um Fighters can look relevant and can look value valuable over you know and overlooking real contenders who are the actual weight who have actually put in the rounds and the work at that weight.
Division.
That’S cheating! You know! That’S! That’S I, I also did a um the episode on matchmakers.
You know the the predators of women’s boxing, the matchmakers right um.
This is this is what um stinks up women’s boxing uh people, you guys out there, and I love you guys so much.
I love y’all because you’re interested in what we do and and and now there’s a greater interest in uh women who are fighting, but what what we lack now is the the education right and and I’m hoping that y’all are interested enough to get some education from Us out here who are giving it about these, these women Champions and contenders right, because now everybody got a women’s boxing.
Show everybody’s talking about everybody got a guess: everybody got to everyone’s up and coming right.
Um, everybody is friends with everybody right, but there’s no one.
That’S why uh sugar has guests, but sugar I mean I’m, not sugar, don’t sugarcoat, nothing right.
So I give everybody an opportunity to um by by not featuring and and and showing just one face in having anyone on my show, I’m giving everybody an opportunity, a real opportunity to prove who they are by performing right, um, it’s some.
We all been, let’s, let’s, let’s talk fight right, let’s talk about what what a fight really is: okay, growing up, um sugar – I mean no sugar was always a fighter.
Okay and um.
It started in the schoolyard it it didn’t it.
It didn’t even really start in the schoolyard it actually started during break time at church.
Yes, yes right so um, it was a great skill to whoop ass uh, while keeping my church dressing.
My and my black or white Mary jeans, without scuffs, on them right or or to keep my stockings not ripped but still whoop, ass um.
You know in in between uh Sunday school break, okay and then it went into it went to um.
You know the school yard and – and you know it just it just developed and thank goodness it developed into something positive um.
But my my record speaks for itself right.
They weren’t all wins, but everybody knew that uh when, when Natalie right, who was uh Ruby’s granddaughter um, who was uh turned into too bad, then missed too bad.
Then sugar showed up.
She was gon na fight and she was gon na give it everything she got and she could fight right and she she and she was gon na perform.
Everybody knows that everybody know that so win or lose.
I maintained my value right, but now that the the game has gotten bastardized warped, especially women’s boxing um, they they’re really um robbing you guys the fans, The Beautiful People of the potential that um there’s so many varieties and variations of women like sugar uh, like other Great contenders who behave badly and are good at it.
Okay, so um back back to to me talking about um, Cecilia, okay, so Cecilia’s last opponent, um Marissa, Portillo, Marissa, Portillo’s, um KO rate is 10.
53 percent right.
So this opponent that she was in the ring with has a a 10 KO rate and the 10 percent um.
You know the double digit that KO rate came from when she was at a smaller weight: okay, so she’s fairly harmless at a bigger weight division right.
If, if you, if you’re only um the the formula goes, you know you’re a different fighter uh at a different weight right you’re, not it’s! It’S a um! You are a um phenom.
If you are the same fighter in each weight, Division and Phenom, meaning you are knocking them out in every division, moving up or down, okay, which is where you know these spanking pound-for-pound lists come from which uh I will visit um in a little bit right.
But um, that’s you know, that’s what all of these! That’S what the whole thing is about right, so in sugar, and not really, you know bringing no faces, and the only faces that Jim y’all may see in the place are women who have already done it.
We’Ve stepped out the game, and now we can sit back and talk about it and talk about our body of work right that you know that.
That’S who that’s? Who, of course um is.
I have the uh.
I will have the honor of of having the presence and sharing their presence with my audience, but these up and comers or these people that still um shimmying in the game, nah nah, nah, so um, Marissa, Portillo, wasn’t uh, wasn’t a concern because she wasn’t somebody that Could uh hurt Cecilia with only having the 10.
53 KO rate, okay and she was safe enough to keep uh Cecilia branco’s active Okay, Terry Harper’s last opponent was Hannah Rankin, who has a 16.
67 KO rate right, but the the thing between both um former opponents, KO rate Is the value of opposition Marissa, Portillo’s, uh receipt or Skid Row may not be as tough as Hannah Rankin’s Skid Row right.
So we have to do a bit more research and dive a bit deeper um, but uh.
The fact that Terry Harper fought Hannah Rankin, um uh, aside from any other Contender valid contender in the division, is because Hannah Rankin has a name, but she only has a 16.
6 um KO rate.
And if you boxing, somebody who only has a 16.
6 or you know it is below, is below 20.
in their KO rate, if you’re boxing them and and and you know, keeping your distance you’re pretty much safe right, they’re not going, though those are not the those You know the one punch uh type of fighter that you know if they lay their hands on you at any point, they’ll hurt you, and so you that’s how you read that KO rate type of thing um, so uh sees um.
Cecilia break us is a KO rate, um was uh, 23.
8 percent, okay and, and that is uh.
Cecilia break us has a great Skid Row: okay, great Skid Row, but you will see that there was a lot of fan dangling in uh how she ko’d her her uh opposition, okay and the same thing: uh Terry Harper, 40 KO rate.
But who was she koing? Okay, who did she KO she ko’d uh? You know lesser opposition and uh, lesser weight; okay, so that’s the that’s! The gag right! You got.
Can two uh two supposed to be thick contenders at 154 pounds if you’re at 100 as a guy at 154 pounds, you got to be able to hurt something or set something the hell down right, and so these broads ain’t sent nobody ass down and no 154 Pounds but yet they have names and yet they’re they’re um supposed to be these great contenders, these great uh Champions that are being matched up that are making money in the way in this weight division.
It’S fagazi right! That’S the gag about this matchup right ain’t.
None of these two worth their salt in the 154 weight division – yeah.
I said it right.
It’S the sugar show show me better than you can tell me, though.
Ladies right start, I mean it.
You still got time.
Ain’T got much time, but you know she got enough time: okay, um her most impressive fight that I saw was when she fought Cali Rays um because she had to stand up in that fight.
She wasn’t finding her backyard and Cali was the one that Kelly raised.
Had her kiss the uh kissed, the canvas right first time not finding her backyard first time without the protection of the referee, okay and she there kissing canvas so that really showed the quality of who she is as a fighter right and um.
It looked like Cali backed up off of her um, but you know look at that fight, Cali Reyes versus Cecilia breakfast.
He exposes a lot and then you know Terry Harper, here um she she still has to prove herself at at this 154 division.
Um did she girl, Terry 26, you’re, 26 years old, you’re, 13.
one and one you got ta build some numbers up at 1, um 54 before you can uh really rally hard at 154.
right and before you can make money for being a 154 fighter.
This is this is what I this is the thing right.
This is the thing that we need to talk about in women’s boxing.
Where does the value come from right? Your value as a fighter comes from your performance right and you can’t bring a performance from a lesser weight division into another weight and into a a heavier weight division.
You can’t do that.
That’S cheating! Right! That’S! That’S! Um! You know that.
That’S me uh, giving you um, I mean you were gold in one Division and then now that you’re still gold in that division, but you can’t pay it ain’t the same currency.
When you get up to 154 right, you may have to pay in diamonds to to have some kind of value right, so you can’t use that same goal that you got in the in another Division and and make that kind of money you got to you.
You got to um, build your value and become a diamond in in in the other division.
That’S how that works right it.
It’S women’s boxing is riddled with um the idea of becoming a celebrity fighter.
Instead of becoming an authentic champion.
It is quite possible right, um.
Let’S get this popularity contest thing gone because don’t nothing move but the money right and once deep, then, once these it becomes a celebrity thing.
It takes the value out of the blood that shed in the ring um.
So this the this matchup is a topic, but the other gag is about this.
Matchup is contract has not been signed and the contract has not been signed.
Uh that you know you check BoxRec right, BoxRec is the um is the database and if it is not if it is not shown on both contenders or both Fighters, um receipt that you know this fight is going down.
The contract has not been signed, and so there is no record there’s.
It’S there’s no highlighted in yellow that they’re going to fight each other.
So this is just I don’t know if this is just some kind of bait to draw attention to them or what? But I’m sick of it.
You know I am gagging off of this right, because these two contenders are not that great for us to be hankering and and waiting for them to to match up to fight right either you’re gon na.
Do it either either you’re going to do it.
Ladies either you’re going to get freaky or not right and that’s how that works um either way.
You know this is this is a a great um idea to toy with, and I would love for you guys to drop comments.
So I would love to hear about what you guys out here think about this potential matchup, because it has not been Inked, okay and um.
What I noticed nowadays about women’s boxing is um.
You know before anything else happened like it’s.
It’S it’s all scheduled now.
Now, there’s a schedule: uh so-and-so is fine, so is her now so and so is fighting and it never used to be like that right they’re, there never used to be such a uh um, orchestrated schedule of um women’s matches because there were um the results and There were so many different performances and contenders out there that um any fight could be a great fight right now.
This is just um.
You know at this point they’re just putting names together which um I I think we you guys can who the these promoters who are doing this can do a lot better.
Women’S boxing get your get your reputation back.
Get your face back, get your get your wallet back right, because I see where we’re giving it away we’re giving it away it’s it.
The the sad thing about women’s boxing and I’ll say it is um women’s boxing, always it will always be weak to hype, will always be weak to getting attention right, and I guess that’s the downfall of any of the typical broad, the typical woman right, she’ll um She’Ll strut her stuff just to get attention right and and have an empty damn purse, because she thinks somebody out there gon na buy her a drink where the gag is right.
Well, Grandmama down where Auntie them taught me was stretch a damn stuff and buy your own drink right and the one who can buy you a better drink and more drinks than you can buy.
For yourself is who gets your attention and you treat? Whoever is doing that really nice, so they can give you some Mo right.
So that’s you know that that that’s really the um, that’s really the mentality that women’s boxing needs to develop.
Now we need to get.
We need to fill our own purses up right and and so and and not be out here trying to get the attention of um the promoters and these people putting the fights together without having no money in our purse and and nothing to um.
Nothing to take care of ourselves or at and having no value in ourselves right.
We can’t do that.
You can’t do that.
No more! There’S! No there’s no longevity in it! There’S none! You become a mascot after a while and so um lovely assistant, I’m hoping that you’re still with me, okay, um, give me the other image.
Please please, please give me the other image.
Okay, so, and now we’re talking about this fight, which I brought up before, but guess what this fight ain’t? Yes, Y’all! It’S going down uh Michaela Meyer versus uh, Christina linodartu, but the thing about it is, I um I forgot to make note of when the date is, but that’s for y’all.
This is this.
Is the thing about that right? I want y’all to take interest.
Google them good broads right, Google, this fight, you, the the date, will come up and a lot more right.
A lot more stuff will come up and then you’ll you’ll you’ll learn a little bit more about uh these two okay, so um just run running down the Deets on these on these.
Ladies here, okay, so um uh on the left on the yeah on the far left.
We have um Michaela Meyer, okay, who she is a top contender in in her weight, um in in the lightweight division.
Okay and she recently lost her Val, her crown her title ship um as a top lightweight um, as as a top as a lightweight champion to Alicia, bumgardner, okay and um.
In doing that, now it it because she didn’t add to her value previously when she was championed um, you know she, she was doing it the fugazi way she was.
She was fighting um, orchestrated matches, matches that were safe, protected matches and all of that stuff when she lost her title, because you know what you think if you’re a champion people, God believed that you’re a champion okay um when she fought um, Alicia, Bumgarner, Alicia Bumgarner, Beat her before, I, I would say, beat her before they even got into the ring, because Alicia Bumgarner, through her words and her actions and her confidence, convinced the crowd, The Spectators that she was the better one.
She was the best, and so, by the time, fight time came.
Uh, Michaela Meyer also performed as though she started to believe Alicia too.
That Alicia was the better woman in the ring where she didn’t yeah.
She didn’t let loose like the championship and she didn’t dominate.
Like the champion should so Alicia bumgardner took her title and now Michaela Meyer is learning or is, is feeling what her opponents felt like um.
What would she put her uh contenders through right? She turned some real good contenders into opponents that were casted to the side.
After they fought her, which is now she’s fighting to not get casted to the side, because nobody remembers how good Michaela Meyer is.
What is? Nobody remembers the champion that she is no.
Nobody remembers how scary she is in the ring, because she never really convinced anybody.
Besides, what her team and what her backers orchestrated on paper? Okay, so that’s how that worked.
Michaela Meyer is uh.
17 wins one loss.
Zero draws.
Okay, so no draws uh of the 17 wins uh.
Five of them are Kos.
Okay.
Now her one loss is to Alicia bumgardner Michaela Meyer is ranked number one in the USA as a lightweight is ranked number one and she’s ranked number two in the world, so BoxRec you’re telling me that of all there are no light weights in the world.
That would um, you know, be comparable or because I mean if Michaela Meyer loses right, she’s got ta.
She she’s got to go down a couple rungs on the ladder you’re telling me that there are no light weights.
That should be ranked above her in order to possibly get an opportunity at challenging the champion right.
She loses so then she goes to number uh one she loses.
Then she only becomes two in the world.
It doesn’t that’s not how rankings work BoxRec right, we’re going to talk about y’all right.
So that’s not how that works.
Okay, um! There are other lightweight contenders.
There are right, but now the whole thing has turned into a celebrity type of deal, which is what the gag is right.
We want to stop that.
We want to stop that um.
Her last opponent is Alicia Bumgarner.
The ranking of this opponent is a five-star Alicia.
Bumgarner is a five-star opponent, okay and she lost to her.
So, okay, the there there is no harm in a loss against a great contender.
There’S none, okay! So I’m I’m not developing devaluing Michaela um.
But what what I want to bring the attention that I want to bring to this is right.
Michaela, you done lost your spot right, so you were a champion you’re, not number one.
No right, I would say, maybe number four right give, even if the others aren’t as great let them prove that they may not be as great as you BoxRec in all of these other um commission and sanctioning bodies.
Let let the the other contenders prove um that they at least deserve a fight with the champion: okay, um and so Alicia mom Garner’s uh KO rate is 46.
67 okay, so and and in her last feature, she shows that if, if she puts her hands on you, She can hurt you and she can put you down on that canvas.
So that’s very impressive.
That adds value to a weight division that adds value to a fighter because she’s able to perform and prove that she is the dominant one, she’s able to prove that she’s.
The baddest broad right, so if you beat that brought up, if you drop that broad, if you do something to that broad, that means you a bad broad too right.
Everyone maintains their value, and I like that, and I like that Alicia Bumgarner fought Ella mccollid.
What I thought did the person that I thought made um made the Lesser made.
The decision that was not good for them was Ella mccolled.
I I think what Ellen mccollidge should have done is matured a little bit more allowed herself to get stronger and allowed herself to um, learn a little bit more and and have more experience in in the craft and the generalship of fighting otherwise um.
It would have saved her um getting her ass dropped so many times in that fight with Alicia bumgardner um.
That happened just recently right, she’s a she’s Ella mccaulette can fight.
She can box she’s a good fighter right, but someday.
Yes, I’m you know, and it’s a it’s uh, it’s something it’s a lesson.
It is truly a lesson that all fighters end up.
Learning right.
You ain’t as big you ain’t as ready as you think you are right.
I think her coach somebody around her should have told her.
I would have told I said I I said it in the previous episodes Ellen McCauley needed to wait a little bit longer or or she needed a little bit more experience before she fought Alicia bungardner because she did not have she proved to herself that she had The skills and she she had the wherewithal to stand in there with a high-end, with great contenders with um the best where she you know she did it with uh Delphine person.
She handled her fight with Delphine for soon exquisitely right, but when you’re getting in there with someone who um can hurt you who, who will drop you you need, you need experience, you need to learn how to navigate that danger right and so um she played herself There but she’s young and she has time to come back, and hopefully you know with the Right Moves.
She said she’ll make them and she’ll get back on to where she’s she’s um see someone who is is um a great value in her in her Division and and in um, being a contender and and and bringing value to herself and those who she fights right.
I hope she doesn’t.
I hope this outcome for Ellen McCauley doesn’t isn’t the um start of a decline in her value and her name and because she still has great potential um.
So then yeah I’m going to talking about uh them.
This monster Christina, Linda darto, which they call her Medusa um, and you know they get that story of Medusa all wrong right.
Medusa was a Medusa was a monster, but she was a beautiful, beautiful Monster.
Um it she the the snakes in her hair and all of that stuff.
That was just someone’s depiction of something they didn’t understand.
Okay, so um, Christina linodarto uh.
She she was off for four um a bit, even though I think her last fight was in 2020.
.
2, I think the earlier parts um her record is 14 wins uh, two losses and zero draws.
I failed to make Mark of how many Ko’s she has, but this one uh, Christina linodarto, is um, regardless of the Ko’s she’s, a very um.
How can I say her value is not her KO rate.
Her value is her that she’s a difficult person to fight she’s, a difficult person to fight, and and it’s it’s because she is a true fighter.
Okay, her temperament she’s, a choleric fighter, cheese unconventional in her approach and she’s, Relentless okay, she’s ranked number one in Greece, okay and I’m not sure how many Greek female Fighters there are but bring them on I’d love to see more, I love to know what the What they the playing field is over there.
I think sugar might take a trip – okay, um and then she’s ranked number fifth in the World Christina lenodarto, and this is at um.
I believe this is super lightweight at 140, right so between uh light, uh 135 pounds and 140 pounds.
So these two are will be fighting, I believe at um 100 either.
I think they’ll be fighting at either 135 or 140 140 pounds.
Okay and this it’s a step up, it is a step up from Michaela Meyer, because it looks like Michaela Meyer is gunning for the you know the celebrity fight a Celebrity Matchup between her and Katie Taylor, which would be interesting.
It would be.
It would definitely be interesting to see um a match between Katie Taylor and um Michaela Meyer good match to see uh Michaela Meyer versus Amanda Serrano.
It would be yeah, I think it’s time Michaela, you can step up.
You can do these things and get some weight on you.
Okay, uh eat a couple more bites of whatever it is that you got on your plate.
Baby.
You can right uh, you long and, and you got the you got the body type, your rangy, so you got you got the this the frame to carry a little bit more um.
You know a little more cushion for whatever you’re trying to push okay, um and so Christina’s last Christina Leonardo’s last opponent um.
His name is Alexandra.
I think right, uh, I’m sorry, y’all know I’ll tear it a name up and it’s no disrespect.
Sister, okay and I looked at um Alexandra’s um receipt and a name jumped out which is quite interesting.
Uh Alexandra fought um a fighter by the name of um anai Sanchez right, but the gag is here is a nice Sanchez.
Is a high-end opponent.
She um she her people, then has a mat given her a record or or has orchestrated a record to where she looks.
I think she’s like 21 and four or something like that, but they have amassed a record where she looks like she’s a a champion material right.
But then you look on her record and you see that she’s fought people, oh and for or or two wins and uh.
Eight, no two win 20 losses.
You know then four and 40 type Fighters right.
That’S when you look and then you start singing names like um, for instance, um other Fighters um, who else um? Who, who is on um a nice Sanchez’s um, hit um receipt? Goodness? I should I um well Sandy Ryan um you’ve got uh Chantelle Cameron on her list.
Um you’ve got uh Jessica.
Mccaskill.
You’Ve got names of Champions on this high-end opponent’s list.
Where you know you can tell on her receipt that she was just paid to be a number on uh on a record to be orchestrated um, for you guys to uh feel like you’re you’re, paying for Quality, uh opponent or a a quality Contender, which is not The case Okay um, so this one that one was you know that that it they did well, they did well in in.
They did well in in putting that one in on on um everyone’s receipt right, because you’d have to dig and you’d have to know.
You’D have to know what you’re you’re dealing with or you have to know what you’re looking for in in that case.
Okay, but okay, high-end opponent, uh, Christina linodarto’s KO record – is uh 6.
67 percent.
I believe um.
Let me just double check that that may not, let’s see yeah yeah, so uh 6.
67, that doesn’t mean she didn’t beat the crap out of who she had in front of her and the thing about Christina uh, Linda darto is um.
She was, she is a um.
She is, I don’t want to call her a journey woman, but she she would be because she or she’s a road warrior, not a Jeremy woman, she’s, a road warrior um, because she she’s the one that she has gone out there and extended herself and taken all The risks to fight people in their own hometowns fight people in their backyard she’s never been on her her own porch in a fight, and so that really also affects the outcome of a match of a fight.
Okay, so this 6.
67 percent may not reflect the true potential and value of this Fighter, Christina leonidarto, which is why I don’t know I think mayor might be after fighting Alicia bumgardner than to fight Christina linodarto.
She she probably should have um taken a break and and fought somebody who she could extend herself against, but not be in the position where she can potentially get beat up or hurt right, a contender that would um help her build her confidence.
Not a tomato can but a contender that would help her um solve a lot of her confidence issues.
If, if you guys um, if you guys can connect with what I’m trying to convey, Michaela Meyer has a lot of confidence issues because she’s been well protected right.
So say we have an onion right that could um the her contenders or the the people they put in her in the ring now with Michaela Meyer.
The layers need to start being peeled back, so Michaela Meyer needs to will experience, um, less and less and less protection and the the as the protection goes.
Her confidence will build because then she will understand that she does have the tools to to fight a good fight and to to fight um opposition um, dangerous opposition, okay, um and that’s all that’s all.
I have to say about that um.
I I look forward to this this matchup um.
I think there is more value in this matchup than in the previous matchup.
That uh, you guys saw that’s what the gag is right.
Um, Terry Harper versus Cecilia break us, um ain’t, no juice! In that orange You Finna squeeze a dry orange.
You ain’t gon na get no juice, but now uh, Michaela Meyer versus Christina leonidarto things might get a little juicy in there.
I would like for y’all to tune in and give a key eye key, and I to how this thing turns out, because this one is a pretty good matchup, congratulations! Michaela for stepping up.
I really commend you on that um.
I don’t know if it’s you or called Yao who’s decided to do that, but have been signed and so yeah Kudos girl and Linda Darton um.
This is your chance right.
This is your chance to uh, also bring value to your name and and to shine as one of the mo one of them more dangerous contenders in this uh super lightweight lightweight division.
So Bravo, ladies: I look forward to this thing happening um.
This is today.
Okay, it says pound for pound y’all, it says pound for pounds, so I told y’all it was going to go and I’m not going to show no faces.
We just gon na talk about this.
We want to talk about this.
We’Re going to talk about this.
Okay, um it.
It came up that the ESPN pound for pound uh women’s pound for pound list came up right and with the names okay, so the ESPN pound for pound list came up, and I ought I just begged to differ.
Okay, I am going to um.
I am going to recite the ESPN’s account for pound uh women’s boxers list.
These are the women in the world in the world, Craig um that ESPN, who is um.
I like to go off of ESPN, because ESPN is a um common media source.
So everyone’s looking at ESPN right, um, everyone looks at it and and so the the the the conscience, the the conscience us or this you know the the the the um most of most of those who are into sports um.
They go off of ESPN, okay and so um.
The ESPN women’s boxing pound-for-pound list goes as this.
Okay, we’re gon na start from the lower end to the top, so at number 10 they have Natasha, Jonas, okay, so Natasha Jonas, I think, did Natasha Jones.
Is the Undisputed women’s middleweight champion? Okay, so she fights at 154 pounds and she got all all the belts.
Okay, she’s the bra to beat.
Okay, then, at number nine we got French on Cruz French on Cruz.
Just became the Undisputed women’s.
I think light.
Is it light heavyweight champion? I know it ain’t heavyweight.
No, no! Sorry! No! I need light heavyweight super middleweight champion.
Okay, which is the division.
I think Clarissa had it when she first started and uh Clarissa started coming down to him to a leaner weight.
Okay, so franchon Cruz went up, uh and and and safely has um gotten this.
The title of Undisputed super middleweight champion in her possession, okay and then at number eight they have a Tunisia Estrada.
Who is, I believe, Tunisia Estrada is bantamweight, okay, so 122.
I think 122 or super bantamweight uh and Tunisia Estrada is one of the I would say, is a uh one of the best women’s um boxers out here um so, but they put her at number, eight she’s in the smaller white Division and from what I see She has not been fighting she she need to go down to Mexico.
She need to go down to Argentina.
She need to go over to them Asian countries where they got them baddies in the Lesser weights right because in North America, here in Europe, they used to over in um Germany, uh, Susie, Susie kentican, or something like that.
They used to have some great um women contenders in the Lesser weight classes in Germany, but it’s been decades since that right so Cindy’s day.
In order to make your name you you got to go down into the belly of the Beast.
You got ta, go down into the trenches and and come up with some contenders, that’s going to show um the crowd and going to show the audience and the fans that uh you’re worth your weight in it.
You know you bring value to that weight Division and it is a division that they should be interested in and want to pay their money uh to to see who is the bad? Who is the lady that it behaves the baddest okay um at number? Seven ESPN has Chantelle Cameron who is uh.
I I would, I would say, um she she’s one of the better Contender she’s a great she now she’s Undisputed, a light Welterweight Champion, so at 140 pounds.
Okay, she has all the belts and uh she’s.
Her performances have been solid okay, so I I like what she’s doing um and, like I said, um she her her victory over Jessica mccaskill, because Jessica mccaskill thought she could come down and um and and be the the Undisputed she thought she was.
She was better or the best, so she went down to 140 and Chantelle Cameron beat her up so in in doing that um.
She technically should not still.
She should not be the 147 champion belt holder anymore.
At number.
Six on the ESPN list is Michaela Meyer, who we just talked about.
Michaela Meyer is a good Contender.
Uh.
She has a she she’s got a pretty decent receipt, Skid Row um, it’s just that uh she’s.
Her value is in question okay, so she now has to prove her value.
Um at number.
Five ESPN has Jessica, mccaskill and so um.
This is this, is you know, top five pound per pound and I’m not sure why they put uh Jessica mccaskill at number? Five.
Top five in the world um just in her recent matchups, I just don’t the only person who would would be a a contender, a a notable Contender as of recently um with Jessica mccaskill is Chantelle Cameron.
She um hasn’t.
She hasn’t fought opposition that would make her pound for pound uh considerate that at this point, pound for pound, okay, that means in any weight division.
This champion this, this person would perform and be Champion material right.
That’S what pound for pound means um at number.
Four Alicia from Gardner uh is, is rated number four by ESPN and she’s Alicia from Gardner is actually um, showing what her worth is pound for pound, okay, so she’s she’s um face.
She has been facing high-end Champions and she’s been she’s, been beating them up and and she’s knocked him down.
So I I think, um this.
This Alicia bongarner is a pound for pound uh fighter and and Champion um at number three there’s the ESPN ranks Amanda Serrano, who um had a a really really good fight performance against Erica Cruz.
Erica Cruz is uh an amazing Contender amazing.
It was a great fight.
Um uh, I think those two women added value to their division.
I I think I I commend Amanda Serrano for giving Erica Cruz a contender like Erica Cruz, a platform to show her value and and and to make some good money because it was a.
It was Amanda Serrano’s porch after all, and she could have.
She could have chosen a a high-end, uh opponent, but she didn’t so kudos um at number.
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