Deniege: Special Guest | The Female Fist | Talkin’ Fight
EPISODE: Episode 5
Deniege, 3 X Youth Canadian Champion and Youth Ringside world champion.
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Hello and thank you, everybody for joining us on the fifth episode of the female fist.
Today i have a beautiful young woman with us.
She is the former three-time canadian youth national champion.
She has also won the youth ringside world champion and we’ve actually accompanied each other to an international tournament.
The esker cup in ireland, where we both came out with silver medals, was a great experience.
Please give a warm welcome to danish chaffee.
How are you doing danish? I’M good, how are you i’m? Well, it’s been so long we’ve been.
Actually, i know, we’ve got an embrace, it’s been how many years was that silver gloves that we were lost at together? I want to say two, but i think it was three.
It was like three years ago, yeah time ago, my goodness yeah.
What have you been doing since then like? What have you like? Have you been keeping up with the boxing community? What’S been going on? Well, i kind of like stopped for a while um.
I was getting ready after the tournament that you and i were at um.
I was getting ready for nationals, it was supposed to be my first senior nationals and then um.
I went to that uh provincial training, camp or whatever in toronto.
I think it was and they were doing like concussion testing and whatnot there and um found out that i had a concussion, so they yeah they suspended me for like three months so that meant like i couldn’t go to the nationals or whatever right so for those Three months i kind of like i didn’t really do much i should have.
I probably should have kept up with cardio or something, but my head hurt literally every single day, so i just didn’t do anything and then um i was like the doctors scheduled me.
I guess you could say to go back in mid-may so the beginning of may i got into a car accident and it wasn’t really like a yeah yeah girl and it wasn’t like a bad car accident yeah.
It wasn’t like a bad car accident or anything like it’s not even like worth talking about a dodge ram hit me from behind, and i was just in like my little oldsmobile intrigue or something so because of like the impact my head like, went back and forth, Or whatever – and i ended up getting another concussion, so at that point i ended up like in the hospital um they did like mris on me.
They thought my brain was bleeding blah blah blah blah uh yeah.
It wasn’t so like it’s okay.
This is why i haven’t seen you around: oh, my god, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, so yeah, so it what like there was nothing like extensively wrong.
It was just another concussion, but that scared me to death like i’m like.
Obviously i love boxing and it’s been a part of me for so long, but i definitely had to like think about my future, and i know that i want to be a mom one day.
I know that i want to be a a good wife.
One day, i don’t want to not remember my name, you know what i’m saying so um i kind of just took a step back out of like the boxing community and was just kind of doing my own thing.
I went to school um.
I just started working or whatever, and then this summer or like march last year and like i really miss being active and like motivated, i gained a lot of weight from after after boxing to like march last year, i gained a lot of weight um.
So i started like trying to work out a little bit again um.
I was doing boxing classes out of my boxing gym and then covent hit and is located where again and windsor right right, okay, yeah, so windsor amateur.
I was doing like classes and stuff out of there and girl they were going so well.
Like i had the last class that i had there.
I had like 15 people, which was like huge for me yeah.
It was like huge and then covered coven hit and we had to lock down and move it.
I know – and i basically had to start all over again so yeah and then uh this summer.
Actually, in like july or august, my boyfriend and i started working out again and like oh, like extensively working out, and i i was like babe like i want to fight again like i want to have one more fight or like one more like at least sparring Match i’m like i have a list of people that i know who i want to fight and then he he was fully like supportive about it and then i ended up uh.
I ended up hurting myself again.
I fell in the shower yeah but, like he’s like, i don’t even know what to say with that one.
I know it was like.
I literally there was like a there.
Was i don’t? Even there was something in the shower and i went to like kick it down the drain and i ended up falling and i hit my head.
I hit my head off of the toilet sleep like that’s how much i fell and after that, like i woke up the next morning, like literally on my pillow like this, could barely move my head and my boyfriend’s like listen.
I know that you love boxing.
I know you want to do something with it, but this you fighting is not what you should be doing like so yeah, i’m back at doing my classes, um i’m doing one-on-ones, but obviously right now, they’re all online yeah, so yeah like yeah like oh well, thanks For the catch up, i had yeah girl, like i knew that you had a concussion about um like after that provincial training camp.
I figured that that’s how you weren’t at the nationals, but i didn’t know that all that stuff had happened after yeah.
No one really does i don’t really like talking well not, but i don’t like talking about it, but it’s just not really like you know.
Well, if you’re not like showing up to the tournaments, it’s even yeah for sure, don’t even hear about it.
Yeah – and i know that my my coach was like like cedric, he uh he was like he wanted me to go back, so he didn’t really want to tell many people what was going on right, but yeah yeah, but though, like it’s very hard to make.
That decision as an athlete you’re an athlete at heart, because yeah ask how how young are you right now: um, i’m 21 years old right now? Oh, my goodness, yeah wow yeah, you started you give it back! Esker tournament was a while ago, really when we went yeah actually young like when did what age were you when you started boxing, i was um like 11 or 12 when i started yeah, so i got like really really badly bullied in grade school like i was Like a chunky like weird kid who liked certain music that other people didn’t like or whatever so people wanted to bully me for it whatever um, so i changed schools and when i changed schools my dad was like you should do a sport cause.
I was always like athletic, but i never really picked a sport to like.
I never loved the sport.
You know, okay, like you, don’t find your niche yeah, so it was actually either hip-hop that i was gon na do oops.
It was either um hip-hop that i was going to do or boxing, and i was like okay, i’m gon na try boxing like yeah, i don’t know like i should say, and i don’t even know where boxing came from like i have no idea why i thought, Like, oh, maybe i’ll be good at this, so my dad knew my original coach um.
He like knew him from like back in the day or whatever so i went to, i went to windsor amateur, and this coach was like: okay, go in front of the mirror and i’ll show you how to throw one too.
I go in front of the mirror and, like i didn’t know my right to my left and i like just got super anxious and i like i’m, i’m very uncoordinated person, as is still to this day.
So the first like week or two in the ring, you don’t look that understood well.
It’S years of practice um, but when i went into the gym like the coach was like, are you sure you want a box like? Are you sure this is what you want to do and he even like pulled my dad aside and was like, i don’t think, she’s gon na go far because i i’m telling you right now i i was awful so then um two months later, not even two Months later, my the same coach goes.
Do you want to spar and i’m like? What do you mean two months ago, you’re telling me that i’m not even i shouldn’t even be doing this.
So what do you mean? So i ended up sparring, his son.
Actually, okay and yeah so after that, like he’s like okay, you’re you’re a fighter, because when i first started when i was a novice fighter, i was just going in like i didn’t care how many times i got hit in the head, i was just going in Huh about like four four to six months after i started training, i went to ringside and i it was like a split decision, but, like she beat me up like it was, it was a little get experience yeah.
This girl had like eight or nine fights, and i had zero, and i, like i, i gave her a good fight like she came up to me after the fight said.
I was like one of the best people she bought.
I’M like okay girl, like after after that, after that, i’m like all right.
This is what i need to be doing like it was awesome, loved being loved being in the ring still to this day like well, that’s amazing, so you really feel like, like that kind of really brings out the inner niche yeah.
I feel like.
Oh, i’m maybe not shining in these areas, but when i’m in this realm, i can be me and it’s funny to me because i’m i’m like i’m such a sweetheart.
You know like i’m like i’m such a nice person once i get in the ring, it’s like a complete different person, and i i love that, like i love that like out of nowhere, i can just be this badass.
You know, like i loved it, but you’re always a badass, it’s just a matter of when you turn it on yeah yeah.
Absolutely i mean i’ve seen you go in the ring and it’s you’re right.
It’S two different people, yeah the audience right now that when we were in esker cup like at that tournament, you are a sweetheart and i’m happy that you recognize that about yourself.
You were definitely a wonderful person to be hanging out with and i really enjoyed that experience.
Emilia dermott, you all made me yeah my girls, the crew.
I know i still talk to justine, like all the time still talk to amelia all the time.
Wonderful woman, wonderful yeah yeah for sure you started at 11, 12 years old going into boxing and like my little sister i mean she just turned nine this year.
Oh sorry is she, i think she’s gon na be she’s gon na be 10 this year.
This time is flying and, needless to say, she was she’s just one year away from when you first entered to the competitive world that must have been really stressful, like just kind of the idea of going into a ring yeah, it was definitely nerve-racking um the thing That stressed me out the most about fighting.
I think, honestly, looking back on, it was like how important it was for me to weigh a certain amount.
You know like yeah now that i’m not fighting anymore and, like i weigh a lot more than i used to fight at and like it took me a really long time to be okay with that, like even to this day like.
If i weigh myself, i’m like.
Oh well, i used to fight out one 110 115, so i shouldn’t even be this, like you know so like that honestly was the hardest thing for me when i boxed was like always having to maintain this weight that i thought was like the weight that i Was supposed to be, you know what i’m saying like that was definitely the hardest part, but as for like going into the ring and like the crowds and stuff i loved it like yeah, i obviously, obviously you get jitters or whatever, but i loved the feeling of Getting in the ring and like okay, this is my time like i’m fighting and that’s another thing like with boxing.
I absolutely loved it because in every other sport, like basketball soccer.
All of that you, if someone makes a mistake and you lose the game, you can blame it on the other person.
You know what i’m saying with boxing.
If you lose like there’s really no one, you can blame it on, but yourself and like you have to take a step back and what did you do wrong in that fight? What do you need to work on? It’S, not! You can’t point fingers at anyone in boxing.
It’S you at the end of the day, like that’s what i love that, like yeah, you have to be completely accountable for everything yeah for your individual sport yeah.
You can’t just tag team, your coach and say: hey.
Can you finish that for me? Oh i’m, tired.
Can you just do that thing that we were working on [, Laughter, ]? Well, that’s really.
That’S really amazing, like i haven’t, met very many girls who have started at that young of the age.
Like i said like i look at my little sister, like she’s yeah baby to me, like i couldn’t imagine her stepping into the ring.
It takes a lot of courage and a lot of bravery for a young woman as yourself and yeah, i’m just a young girl to say, like yeah, take that chance and i’m gon na i’m gon na see what i can do.
I’M gon na see what i can bring out of me and that’s amazing, and you should like that’s who you are that’s yeah, what you were in those moments? That’S who you are yeah for sure leading up to today and that’s what i think is really admirable about you yeah, and it took me a long time to like once i stopped boxing.
I was super depressed about it and like there was obviously like personal stuff going on as well, and i was just going through like a really hard time.
But it took me a long time to like tell myself that.
Just because you’re, not boxing anymore, doesn’t mean that it’s you’re not like a boxer you’re, not a fighter anymore um, even like with being in the community still like it.
It obviously like makes me sad sometimes because i’m like ugh, i just want to be the fighter.
You know, but they’ll pass like couple clients that i’ve had and i’m doing, pads with them and like if they perfect their right hand, i’m like.
Yes, i taught them how to do that, so i’m i’m slowly starting to fall, fall in love with the other aspect of boxing and like coaching right, like my my main goal and like what i want to accomplish with being a coach or whatever personal trainers.
I want to end up having like my own boxing gym, where people can come in and like even just work out or like.
I just want girl, specifically girls, sorry guys, but specifically girls to like have somewhere to have somewhere nice to go and like just you know like leave it all at the front door come hit.
The bag comes far like.
I just want people to have the opportunities that i did.
You know what i’m saying like that liberty of like.
If you know, because you don’t need to have uh, maybe certain kinds of communities – that’s yeah times – can revolve in a gym a lot of like ego, a lot of negativity, a lot of uh judgment, sometimes when you’re with well as a woman.
Sometimes, when you’re hanging out with just woman, sometimes like and you’re all kind of trained in that same mindset with the same goal, sometimes it feels more supportive because, oh for sure, yeah um sometimes sometimes right, everybody’s different, but it could be very stressful.
If a girl is trying to match the pace with this, like maybe 180 pound guy who’s got like yeah attack ab and, like he’s got these super muscles, he’s doing these crazy things and it’s almost, it can be intimidating, sometimes to try to think like.
Oh, like i can’t do that, so maybe i prefer expectations so yeah facilitate an environment that you’re talking about would be such an amazing thing, because then yeah people feel so comfortable just doing that with each other.
Well, i think my favorite tournaments that i ever went to were the two that i went to in ireland because i’m like i looked around and i’m like everyone’s a female here like this is this is so cool like all of these girls from around the world? Are just are killing it like everybody at that tournament, whether they won or they lost without gold or bronze or didn’t even meddle.
They were killing it like.
It was awesome right, that’s the most amazing.
As you can see, they came to fight yeah for sure, like even a girl like, even when i fought in ireland like i, like those girls are like awesome like they are yeah every single one of them, and it was really that was the first time i’d.
Seen so many women? Well i mean it was an all-female tournament, but from what i understand, there was over 200 female athletes at that tournament, and i thought yeah, it’s just incredible.
Amazing golden girl tournament that usually takes place in sweden minus this year from covet, but usually yeah, and that one right which i didn’t have the pleasure of attending.
Yet maybe in the future.
I don’t think i went to that one either.
No, not the one in sweden.
I was supposed to go to that one and i ended up going to ireland.
Instead, i think ireland was pretty fun yeah.
Ireland was amazing yeah.
I love ireland, you and i were talking about earlier this um this kind of event that you’re trying to put forward.
You were telling me that it’s called pushing pounds yeah.
So can you tell me a little bit about that? So, basically, what i’m just trying to promote pushing pounds is like um.
It originated with me doing those boxing classes outside of my gym um.
I didn’t know what to call it.
So i’m like okay, let’s call it pushing pounds you’re losing weight whatever whatever i love.
The name um after coping and like even now like i’m kind of like in limbo, like i don’t know what to do with it right so as of right now like pushing pounds, is basically just like my fitness, page okay, but i’m just trying to promote.
Like me, being a female trainer and a female like coach or yeah, like fitness, instructor type thing instead of denise the boxer or like you, can still call me denise the boxer but um, i’m trying to definitely like promote me as a trainer and that’s what pushing Pounds is, and i wanted to go like when i get my own gym, i might call it pushing pounds, i might call it something else, but just the main goal of pushing pounds is like empowering women like letting them know at the end of the day.
Even if you don’t come in to work out with me like message me, if you need someone like, if you need someone event like i’m here like i know it, i definitely know what it’s like to be a female athlete and struggle with mental illness and mental Health – and i just don’t want anybody else like i don’t want anybody to go through that which people are going to go through it, but i just like to be a like an outlet.
You know like yeah, absolutely yeah boxing’s, like an amazing outlet.
If people have something, that’s absolutely just yeah to hit something, oh like to this day yeah to this day, if i get like in a mood, i’m like, i just need to hit a bag like.
I just need to go through some bags.
Then let’s say like a wall or yeah right: it might be a bag or something yeah, not really hurting right, so basically you’re kind of having this idea of or this movement.
I should say of this community of females that have an area to go to for um, for a union of support while exercising out their stress in a way and yeah, mostly boxing yeah.
That’S my the workouts that i do with my girls are like.
I do pads with them and everything um.
I always start with, like a circuit.
So when i used to box um, if we didn’t run that day, you would do like a circuit or like a cardio circuit, to make up for your run.
So i always have the girls do that before they do anything else, and then they always like not that they complain, but they’re like this is hard like, oh my god, and i’m like girl, like i used to do that five times over, like i’m like i’m, Like, oh, you guys have no idea like i used to run in the snow storm outside, but you guys are in here so, and you know what that’s great, that have those kind of conversations with them, because maybe yeah, maybe normally somebody would feel shy yeah.
No, i don’t know, there’s no reason to come into my my classes.
Being shy like you’ve done, that yeah yeah and it’s inspiring when they see a young girl.
That’S like hey, i did it, you can do it well, it’s funny my my boyfriend and i were living out of living out of our hometown.
For the summer we were just traveling around like little places in ontario and we ended up going to a gym and i was like there was a there’s, an area in the in the gym that you can skip in and i’m like, i’m gon na go.
I’M just gon na go do some like skipping or whatever, and he was like doing his weights, and these like two like little old, ladies, like come up walking to me and they just like stop and they’re watching, and i like didn’t know what to do so.
I, like kind of just kept skipping or whatever, and i was doing like my criss-crosses and everything i stopped and i’m like, couldn’t even breathe because i haven’t worked out how long and they’re like you are so good that is so cool.
Oh, my god and then the next day there’s a bag, there’s a bag there and i’m like.
Oh, they think that’s cool watch this and i go and hit the bag and they’re like oh, my god, you’re so you’re.
So good, like do you they’re, like do you fight? Are you a fighter and i’m like yeah, i box, like blah blah blah, and it’s just that is so cool to me like because boxing anyone saying that they’re, a boxer you’re like oh okay, me being five foot two and like this little thing when people are Like oh you’re a boxer, and i can actually show them like what i can do, i think it’s hilarious, like it’s awesome, just being able to be like yep, i’m a boxer.
Why someone especially because nobody expects it from yeah woman like i like i’m five foot three, i get it the four girls over here yeah.
Normally, if i’m walking down the street, normally people don’t think like.
Oh, that’s a boxer, maybe if they maybe, if i’m wearing like a tank top, they see the arms and they think that i’m a power lifter.
But the last thing they think is that i’m a boxer yeah.
Well, i had, i was wearing a tank top one day and like on my shoulder, my left shoulder.
I have boxing gloves and this old lady like walks up behind me and she’s.
Like excuse me darling.
I just want to know like why do you have those gloves on your back and i’m like? Oh i’m, a boxer and, like i ended up talking to her and everything she’s like.
I think it’s so cool that girls now can box like because obviously she’s older she’s, like back and back in my day, like girls, couldn’t do anything really and now now you’re now you’re boxing and you’re equivalent to a man boxing and in her eyes.
You know what i’m saying like: well, we, you know what not like we’ve made this movement yeah, that we are like we’re getting in the ring, and you know i think it was um not even that long ago.
I think only like four years ago, like don’t quote me on that, but we just moved to three three minute rounds before we got or two minute rounds.
I honestly don’t even know if it was four years ago because, like that started, i only fought like one like two or three times like three threes, so i think it might have started like three years ago.
Wow, if it wasn’t even that long ago, see that i don’t think yeah now we’re going to the ring, just like the guys like we’re we’re now headlining cards, the same cards that men are under like justine and i we were the main event yeah go out In london yeah, first of all, i have uh.
I have clarissa shields on snapchat and yeah because she so i live in what like i’m from windsor right, so um she used to come, but before she was even an olympic olympian, she would come to like shows in windsor and like she was just a normal Fighter or whatever, and then i remember when she got her first, her first gold medal.
She came to a fight and i was fighting her prodigy and i was like.
Oh, my god, like you won, you won gold like it was the coolest thing ever um, so she just messaged me like last week and she messaged me like her flyer and was like promote this.
Like blah blah mind, you she’d probably send it to everybody on her contact list, but i’m like still i’m like.
I know, clarissa shields, that’s pretty awesome! Well, you can take clarissa shields in this yeah for sure.
Well, we both say hi.
I know well she’s doing like that.
She has a fight, i think it’s in march and it’s an all it’s an all females card so like even that is so sick, like amazing yeah.
Well, there you go because now she’s like yeah, go on.
I said she kills it clarissa sheila killed it she’s, a fantastic athlete.
She’S definitely made a huge impact in the women’s yeah industry for boxing she’s definitely broken all the barriers and she’s wonderful overall, and this is just kind of like looking into what brings you and i here today you have yourself that started boxing at 11, 12 years Old amazing, that’s inspiring alone.
On top of it, you also won youth ringside championship.
You’Ve also won three national championships of youth, like you’ve put yourself at those kinds of um podiums you’ve put yourself yeah, all kinds of like training in that in that level of performance.
At such an absolute early age and those kinds of experiences are gon na carry out like right now, you’re telling me that you’re going to open up one day, your own gym, you’re, already doing these kind of big movements.
The pushing pounds like these are amazing things that you’ve developed that confidence to do it and it all stops me stepping into that ring, yeah yeah for sure, and that’s so yeah, and you shared that with us today.
Yeah for sure, and it’s kind of like it’s kind of funny, because, like i, i get anxiety about quite a bit like um and every time i get like anxious about something.
My boyfriend or my dad or like someone close to me, will be like you literally used to fight in front of how many people and you’re nervous to make a phone call to your doctor.
Like are you furious, so like yeah yeah? It’S you know in two different worlds right and especially, if you’re so careful just getting ready to go in the ring.
Like i get it, it’s very yeah, the feeling i get it.
I’M really happy denise that you shared with us your story today.
Do you have anything any last words you want to say to everybody out there um, i think i’m good go, follow, pushing pounds, everybody go, follow, pushing pounds, support our beautiful young boxer here, denise and her journey and denise.
Can you put your hands up for me? Thank you so much girl, okay, have a beautiful day and stay tuned for next week’s episode of the