Special Guest Syd Vanderpool | The Female Fist | Talkin’ Fight
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Hello, everybody and thank you for joining us on the female fist for the fourth fourth episode today with us, we have a very well-known decorated, boxer and coach.
He is formerly ranked number one in the world by the international boxing federation nabo champion at the super middleweight.
He has famously fought bernard hopkins, jeff, lacy and glenn johnson in the pros, as well with an extremely impressive amateur record of 90 wins 9-0 and 11 losses with ex, and it’s with so much extreme pleasure to welcome sid vanderpool.
How are you doing sid, i’m doing great? Thank you so much for uh for taking the time to chat with me today.
No thank you for joining us, so your professional career, it began in 1993.
That was two years before i was born.
Oh my gosh thanks, but from what i understand you actually started boxing like your boxing journey in 1978, was it yeah i’d be 78 correct, six years old, six and a half years old.
That was it that is such a okay.
I personally haven’t really met anybody.
That’S actually started boxing at six years old.
What was that like back in the 70s yeah? I i mean i didn’t have anything to compare to i just because again i had four older brothers and they were all boxing so that just kind of seemed like norma’s kind of like what we did as a family.
So you know that was just part of what i did growing up and you know when we had the opportunity.
The opportunity came for me jump in the ring uh.
My dad kind of was like hey get in there and uh.
I did it and uh.
There was no looking back once i was in the ring and one of my first fights.
That was just like a feeling that just took you from there all the way, yeah yeah yeah, pretty much.
You know it was um again.
I i i box as a southpaw, but i’m right-handed, so i am just taking.
I got that because my oldest brother is a southpaw and just watching him just being around the gym watching him.
I stood the way he stood and when i got in the ring i just started boxing to southpaw and no one ever corrected me because i was doing it and doing it well, so you know i just boxing was always a part of kind of what we Did and uh you know we i mean we had a ring in our yard, we’d spar in the driveway.
We had a gym like weights.
In our like i mean this is in the 70s and the 80s.
I mean we had all these things and that’s kind of just what was uh.
What was part of our lifestyle? That’S so beautiful, just growing up with that natural instinct and having that support your whole family, i would hate to get into a fight of that car ride the whole family never mind.
Keep driving, i don’t care if you’re driving 20 under the speed limit.
[ Laughter ], you reckon with definitely right [ Laughter ], so i guess now, if we take out the pandemic for a second like 2021, as opposed to 1978, you’ve gone through a whole timeline of boxing like completely different eras.
All linked together, you’ve seen everything firsthand from the amateurs and the professionals yeah.
That’S it take me on a journey.
I really honestly i’ve never really thought about it.
Um, but yeah i mean i do remember.
I remember it’s crazy like when i was a kid.
We would go to brantford and we would um fight and uh for some reason.
I think we might have even got like three or four dollars or something at the end of the fight.
We would fight with no headgear.
We would fight three times in one day like that was just tournaments: oh yeah tournaments, you get, you could fight multiple times in one day.
You know in those days and that’s why you know having 100 fights back then was just like whatever like it was like.
Nothing easy that was nothing that’s kind of what we did.
You know these days.
You know um, i don’t know when you go to a fight.
Do you bring your boxing gear with you every single time, yeah like whether you’re fighting or not yeah, absolutely yeah, like that was just and you’d bring your gear every time you went anywhere and you would get fights, and that was just what happened.
Oh, i thought for a second you meant like as like.
If i’m going to a fight, so no! No, if i’m going to a tournament – and i don’t have a fight – i don’t bring my stuff.
No, there was no spectating.
You went to a fight show to support your team, whatever you always brought your gear, and there are lots of times when, like they didn’t, have enough fights or something fell through and you would get in the ring and fight.
That’S just the way.
Oh all, the time all the time and that’s so different from now, because now there’s so much um preparation that goes into one fight like it’s like a six to eight week, uh training.
Just for that, one tournament that you get like you even plan out once you’re done the fight, what you’re gon na do in the next 24 hours leading up to the next fight.
If you have another fight, everything is all scheduled for everybody.
You know back, then you were always ready, always ready.
You just went to the yeah, always ready.
That’S a very different mindset so like if you were going to compare what you think the athletes um are going through right now as boxers like 2020 from 1970s.
What would you say all those like the major transitions that you’ve seen personally yeah and you kind of just hit on it right there as well the preparation um now is it’s a lot more specific to an event to a fight um there are like.
I don’t want to say boxing’s more recreational then, but it was just um.
It was kind of like it was it was.
I don’t know man i want to say it was fun because it’s still fun now, but it was just something you did.
You know like it wasn’t like: okay, i’m preparing for this one match, because this match is gon na leave me here here here.
It was just like.
Oh i’m at a fight show and oh there’s, a fight sure i’ll fight, but you were ready.
You fly but you’re all so there was that sort of thing: enjoyable, almost yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
It was part it’s like recreation.
You fought to to win and to get better and to move forward, but it was just a recreation right now that was just normal.
That is, you know i couldn’t.
I can’t even imagine that, because in my day, like even me, growing up in a gym eve as a girl as well since, like women in boxing haven’t been as popular for that much like for that long.
So, even for me, like it’s always been so structured like when you have a fight you have to, you know, really prepare for it and you you’re, focusing on this one day like when you get to fight and it’s a completely different mindset.
You almost don’t enjoy it as much because you’re so focused on.
I have to perform like this.
I have to make that win, or else i don’t get to go to this point.
Yeah and i guess there wasn’t so much emphasis put on winning and losing maybe as well yeah like uh, because again you could be at a show and if coaches were always just hustling, just like hey, you want to fight.
Oh you want.
Let’S do an exhibition.
Okay, let’s do an exhibition yeah, all right, good get in there.
You know like it was just get in the ring.
Like that’s what you did you got in the ring.
If you went to a fight, it was like hey, i might get in the ring tonight.
[ Laughter ].
Sometimes i hear these stories even from my father, because sometimes he’d say like oh you boxers nowadays, you guys don’t know what it was like to really enjoy boxing back.
In my days you show up you just fight.
He said to me that sometimes people would put bricks in their pockets just to fight up weight classes just together, because you wanted to fight yeah.
You just wanted to get the ring.
What a different like mindset completely! That’S really! I i kind of wish that i was able to see that, and even after the fights like i remember, you know just a kid after the fight you would, you would get a little ticket and you would get your hot dog and your pop right and it’s Like you know, like you, you fought, you got your ticket, you went, you got your hot dog in your pot, you know, and that’s just like that’s why i went to branford.
That’S why i went there because, like hey man after the fight i’m getting my hot dog in my pot nowadays, oh my god, imagine seeing a fighter just go grab a pop after their fight be like what are you doing? I’M just trying to enjoy my win.
Oh, my god, that’s so funny, so i guess, like the transition to going to pro as well, you would say is very different like from when you turned pro in the 90s compared to how boxers are now it’s becoming like a trend for boxers and amateur.
To turn pro nowadays, what would you say are the major differences in those hemisphere hemispheres from your perspective, so the difference between um boxing as a as an amateur and boxing as a pro yeah, and are you talking about boxing as a high level, amateur or just Uh, i would stay um, i’m going to go with high level amateurs we’ve seen recently.
For example, amanda galli went this past few years from canadian champion in the amateurs to now she’s going professional, and we see a couple of the wilcox brothers, all national champions and now they’re.
Turning pro, you know what you mean yeah.
So if you’re, a high level amateur you’ve, already understand the system and the structure of performance yeah.
So it’s a lot easier to make the transition into a professional uh camp into a professional uh stable, where they’re gon na demand the same of you right.
But if you weren’t uh a high-level amateur, you may not understand the structure of high level performance right which again you get your strength, training.
You got your nutrition, you got your recovery, you got all these things, and so those are so important as a pro and uh.
So really, i think the transition uh as a boxer uh then just becomes adapting to the different style, because you’re doing more rounds right and um pace is a little bit slower, a little more emphasis on power and show and entertainment all those things that your coach Is going to need to kind of develop within you, but the foundation is there right? The foundation of discipline and and structure should already be in place.
So when you transition from the amateurs to the professionals, do you find that back? Then? It was a little bit more different than how people transition this day and age like do you find that um, because you yourself were a high-level amateur as well.
You had all those foundations, you had all the preparations, but do you find that it’s a little bit different now the procedures in professional boxing, as opposed to when you went into it yeah? I didn’t, spend enough time uh in the amateurs at the international level.
So again i turned pro at 19.
, so i really had only been senior for one year where you really start to then get because now they’re gon na carry for the olympics.
So now you’re getting you know, different training camps and that sort of thing.
So i didn’t have that structure uh a long time in that structure.
So when i turned pro again it was a learning process for me um.
You know, and i didn’t get that until i went to a training camp uh.
You know with john davenport, who was at one time he was olympic uh, an olympic coach for the us team.
He trained uh lennox lewis for his like first, like 13, 14 fights um, you know so when i got there.
That’S when i learned hey buddy, you were just you’re, just an amateur in the pros.
How about coming over and being a real pro and that’s kind of what i learned about the system and the structure, the discipline, all those things that really make you a pro and not just an amateur fighting in the pros different, very, very different.
So you would say that, like nowadays, people are a little bit more aware of that because of all the new opportunities like now.
It’S a lot easier for amateurs to get that international experience.
They have like all these international tournaments that, like north america and europe, they constantly have tournaments, where they’re inviting each other over for like big qualifiers and whatnot yeah.
So i mean the international experience is there, but just because you have the international experience doesn’t mean you have the uh the system to support it right.
You can go to international fights, which is great but there’s the whole preparation for it right the whole.
You know periodization of training that whole system of understanding.
How do you get yourself to be able to peak on that one day yeah one day, this is what’s amazing about boxing right.
You can train for six eight ten weeks on one day, you have to bring out your very best against somebody else.
That’S bringing their very best on that single day, the door signs up for who signs up for that right in football.
You know they got up.
Yeah i’ll play again and i’ll play again like in boxing no like it’s one day, bring your best friend on that day, like it’s uh, 100.
At that moment, no, i totally get it.
Everybody always says, like you, have to be a little crazy just to go in the ring for those kinds of rushes, but that that intensity, it’s the process.
In my personal, like opinion, it’s the process leading up to that.
That’S so rewarding regardless of the outcome.
It’S what you do in preparation to those kinds of events and how you deliver yourself, because the outcome sometimes isn’t your decision.
Sometimes it’s just what you bring to the table.
The only thing you really have control over right is your preparation.
You could get a bad judge, you could uh be sick, like there’s so many things that you have no control over, but what you do control over is your preparation so and that’s why you always want to make sure that your preparation, you know, is you’re doing All you can and you’re learning from it, because sometimes one preparation, um may not be the best or preparation is it’s.
It’S building blocks right.
The preparation that um the end result is not seen in six weeks.
It took many training camps built on top of many training camps, to get you to that point, and so don’t think oh yeah, it’s just a six week.
That’S why i’m no! It was the fire of the six week.
Training camps, yeah right, absolutely a hundred percent.
I think that sometimes when people are first starting boxing, they think that’s what it is.
Oh well fighters are only taking six to eight weeks to get prepared for this big fight.
They don’t see the journey, that’s being built on this, because it’s fighting like it’s, not something that you go in and play you go in there and somebody is aiming to like their ultimate goal is to knock you out.
Yeah absolutely and both participants are going in with that mindset.
So it’s a very dangerous game.
You you don’t play that you have to really really build for those moments, yeah, no for sure, like a book of work that you need to put in absolutely so i didn’t mean to cut you off.
No, no! That’S! Okay! So now now like in the 70s, because we’ve seen women going into the olympics in 2012.
– that’s a that’s a very late start for a woman, considering all of our progress that we’ve made throughout all the sports venues.
So people are so surprised when i say that the the woman made their first appearance in the olympics in 2012.
It’S crazy! It’S crazy! Like 10 years, when you started like how relevant was a woman boxing like what was that, like in your competitive years, how relevant, really oh man, i got ta use a different word than relevant relevant just seems so i can’t say it was irrelevant, but there, but There was like my brother keith started: training uh female fighters to compete.
You know around the time yeah like 96 98 and you know you’ll hear um.
You know i was listening to um mandy speak and she talked about donna mancuso.
Well, my brother keith trained donna mancuso, oh really, so that was my and i used to start with donna, mancuso, um and yeah like so.
That was the kind of first experience that i had gotten to to females boxing and actually getting the ring and in terms of skill level and and um coachability.
Those things i mean, obviously on par with what men are doing, right, um and some exceeding, but that was my first experience really to you know to be in the ring with someone at a high level and again not near the international or flight experience that i Had but like skill wise, like very skilled right, so it was good.
It was a good uh introduction to that, because it wasn’t so much that women couldn’t do it.
But of course, we’ve always had the same capabilities, but the opportunities just opportunities, even like girls that had this raw talent.
Sometimes it was so hard for them to even develop that talent, because there was nobody else for them to do it, because a lot of girls just didn’t even know that they could or that they were even welcome, because a lot of girls would get shied away From a gym to my understanding, even mandy herself said that she’s experienced some like moments where people were like.
No, this is your ring, or even it’s time for you to come out and let the guys come in so like yeah back in when you were competing.
Did you ever experience personally, where you seen something like that um i mean i’ll say.
Like i mean, i was a part of it, because how many times would i be out in the mall and i’d be like see a big guy like yo, you you’re a heavyweight, you come to the gym.
When did i ever look at a female and go hey you could you should come like it just wasn’t? I just didn’t think about it right right, and so you know we were picking guys out like how did the gym come to the gym? Hey come come join me at the gym right.
It was just because it wasn’t.
It wasn’t part of our culture yet right.
So i think now like with what you’re doing and just again that that whole awareness like hey you know females are doing it doing it at a high level.
You know i was watching uh.
I forget her name but she’s, russian and um.
Oh, my goodness like just i don’t know if i want to fight her like and you know, kudos to mandy, she makes me watch she’s like you got ta watch this girl.
You got ta watch this girl and i was like yeah girl boxing.
I don’t know like they’re, not because i hadn’t seen any high level female boxing like at that level.
Right and, like you know, mandy but like and now i’m like wow like some really good boxers yeah, and i think everyone seems to be exposed to that exactly.
I think that now, like that girls are going into ufc and ufc, has brought a lot of attention to women in combat, because obviously women have been professional at boxing for a lot longer than women have been in ufc, but it just wasn’t announced.
We didn’t have that platform for people to recognize, like hey, girls are doing this and they’re not just doing it, but they’re doing it really.
Well, you see in like ufc and now in professional boxing recently like with katie taylor and um, the serrano sister, like they’re, highlighting main events yeah.
It’S such a huge movement, and it’s so wonderful and when people at first, like with that impression, oh well, it’s just girls fighting like they’re, not fighting at the same intensity as guys, but then when they see these girls and they’re, like oh, my god, because this Stereotype is also that a girl almost looks like a guy to be considered dangerous.
But then you see somebody like katie taylor or you see somebody like mandy bujold or you see somebody like the serrano sisters and these are beautiful women and they could fight and they could get hit.
Yeah and – and you know i think um i mean even back from like christy martin – i mean when she was on like some of the most exciting fights right, the undercards chris and but what you’re, seeing now and again because of the exposure, because there’s more females In the sport you’re seeing the skill level just yes, why would that like? And that is what i’m excited about right.
Absolutely the skill level is is on par.
It’S like wow, okay, now, okay watch out, gentlemen watch out, you think you’re just gon na be main event just because you’re a guy! No! No! No! You know you better yeah like and it’s exciting, even like in my personal experience when my father used to host um, the club shows i’ve made evented.
One of his club shows and he’s told me that the club shows of his that i’ve made evented has filled up the most because they’re so excited to see.
At the time i was still um a novice and i was like i think, 18 19 years old.
So everybody was just so excited to see a young girl fighting at that level, just being a main event in a local club show they were just really curious and, let’s be honest too, i mean you’re so explosive right.
People just want to see it because you can knock someone’s head off at any moment.
[ Laughter ] but go on, but it really made me feel, like you know, that’s such a good feeling, not just because of like how i’m performing, but just at a level of a young girl, because i know there’s a young girl in the audience.
That’S mostly looking at me thinking wow, like that’s now in her head as normal, because she’s seen it so now.
She knows if that were something she wanted to do, she’s already seen it so she thinks like i can do that yeah, no, absolutely yeah! I think that’s why you know conversation like this is so important because you know as a male when i hear like oh wow like i was inspired, because i saw another female in the gym.
I was just like, oh really like.
Why are you just like? I’M? Not a female, so i don’t know that and then, when i hear like oh my gosh, really that’s cool, you know the female athletes i have in the gym.
I need to make sure that they stick around a little bit extra talk to someone.
You know what i mean: get off social media a little bit more because they could inspire the next mandy bourgeois they.
Could you know? That’S all it takes.
That’S all it takes right, so um yeah this is these.
Are these are great conversations to have for sure.
Well, even for me like when i was growing up into the sport, my dad told me about mandy.
This is before you know.
Obviously, the olympics was even a thought for women, but he told me about mandy he’s like you want to know what it takes to be a successful female boxer.
There’S a girl right now representing canada and she’s, had multiple national titles and she’s somebody.
You need to watch because she does everything to a t, she’s so dedicated.
I wish that half of my guys were even half as dedicated as her, and that said so much to me i was like really and i at first i thought like mandy is this like, like somebody who’s like really like, because that’s this is my image, all The time i was like really just – and i was thinking that then he’s like no she’s, actually going to be awake class like lower than you you’re, probably going more than you 54 and she’s 51 kilos, and i’m like no way.
And then i saw her and i’m like wow and she’s, beautiful and she’s so humble, and that was so like wow that, like that was a perfect example for me in that moment, like okay, so yeah, i guess women are doing this and they’re doing it.
Well, yeah yeah, and i want to be that for somebody whenever they look at me too.
That’S like one of my motives and i’m sure you are i’m sure you are thank you, but as a coach with these incredible credentials and amazing insights from first-hand experiences in both amateur and professionals.
As i mentioned, you’ve built this beautiful legacy from the sport from like 1970 all the way to 2021.
Now you have your own facility, you have your own programs, you have professional fighters, you have olympic fighters, you have successful national championships.
You’Ve had this wonderful legacy of yours and for boxing a lot of athletes turn to you and a lot of athletes confiding you and ask you for your advice.
So when did you start noticing more females asking you about this? When did you start noticing that more females were walking in through your door and being the ones asking you? What was that, like two weeks ago? Good, no um, you know what it’s been: a slow uh transition and progression um.
You know, because i mean you may know some of the like some of the females that i started in boxing.
You know jessica kamira day.
One like this is where she started her boxing career natasha spence.
This is where she started um.
So you know i’ve always had an ability to help develop fighters and some of them are female and some of them are male, and i think now that i’m a little bit more involved in the amateur boxing scene.
You know as a director as a boxing ontario and part of the coaching committee, and that sort of thing i think now um that i’m out there a little bit more, you know, uh, just more athletes are recognizing.
I have a voice and so they’ll be able to see me a little bit more and some connect and some don’t and those that connect with me.
You know uh, we have conversations and that leads to other things and uh.
You know um, i’m always happy.
I’M always happy to share my experiences.
That’S why i had them.
I didn’t have those experiences, so i could um, you know, write a book or anything like that.
Had the experiences they’re not just for me they’re to share and the more i share my experiences.
It honors it honors my coaches right, because a lot of what i have in me is what they put inside of me, and so i honored honor, my coaches, like arnie, beam and adrian to the rescue, and you know everton mcewen.
You know i honor them by sharing, you know my knowledge, and so that’s that is required.
Uh of me as a coach and that’s what i teach my coaches as well and that’s that’s awesome.
That’S awesome and i think that that’s a perfect way to kind of put that into perspective everything that you’ve learned and everything that you’ve experienced bringing forth to.
Whoever is now your student.
That’S not just you in that moment, but that’s everything that you’ve built throughout the years coming into that moment and i think that’s like really important for people to realize and understand that many of our coaches have had.
But you specifically have had these great experiences.
Not just speaking from a point of like i’m here for this you’re speaking yeah right here, because this is important to you and that’s quality over quantity, yeah, very important, and you know when people want to give me credit and say: oh, you know, sid’s a great Coach, well, you better add about another 10 names to that.
You know because it’s not me like it’s there’s so many other people that invested in me in my development, in my coaching that you know, part of my knowledge comes from them and the only thing that i get to do is i get to add my little Um the way that i say it, the way that i uh deliver it, but it’s not new information.
I didn’t just, i didn’t, develop and design and make something new.
I just took what they gave me and i package it a little bit different and i systemize systematize a little bit different, but you know i’m not that you know bold and that you know uh arrogant to say well.
This is me, this is a well not really like.
This is a good thief, i’m just a good thief.
All my coaches like or a good student this.
This is true, and that is true.
I mean i always listened.
I always wanted to learn.
I always wanted.
I was absorbed.
I was really great at listening and asking questions and uh.
I didn’t know why.
But now i do right, that’s it’s so i can share sure i can share that knowledge and experience with others.
There’S a saying that i’ve heard that’s making me think of you right now.
I think it went um.
Your purpose is to find your gift, your meaning is to give that gift.
I like that yeah.
I think that was paulo coelho.
Don’T nobody quote me on that? Okay, well, we’ll have to look it up, but i think that it was paulo coelho and that’s what makes me think of.
You is specifically that saying, and i think that that’s great, because there’s a lot of people that you’re gon na meet that you’re gon na interact with that you have already not you’re going to that.
You have already me myself included that are going to take those gifts and it’s going to make more foundations and building blocks to greater experiences for them, and i think that’s amazing, yeah many female boxers as well, that i know that you have on the rise right Now, which is awesome, yeah yeah? No, it’s true and uh again.
If i can help encourage and develop, you know my athletes to understand the importance of you, know: uh sowing into other people’s lives and helping develop it’s just it’s that ripple effect.
So that’s always a part of and again that’s how i grew up in boxing.
You know: um the history of water, the regional boxing academy.
Again, where i developed under arnie beam, i mean we had the johnson brothers.
You know lennox lewis, my my brothers, our uh art bankowski, another olympian, like all these great fighters, and we had this.
They used to call us the warehouse.
You know um, because we’d all after we won national championships, we’d go to to adrian adrian was was the benefactor of a lot of great coaching in kitchener, yes, but what we did was we understood that when we learned something we go to adrian, we learned something.
That’S what we did we come back and we teach it to the other kids in the gym.
That’S what we did like that’s why we had such a long legacy of great boxing in kitchener is because what we learned we shared amongst ourselves.
It was open knowledge like chris johnson, that guy man like he, he like he showed me so much.
He was always trying to teach me.
You know this that the other as he was learning it.
He was teaching it to me.
You know – and i did the same for other people and that that was uh, that was the tradition and the legacy, and that’s what i’ve always tried to kind of continue on with that would sit fit.
I really like that, because when you learn something you embed it even deeper when you teach it to somebody else and then, if you pass on like, for example, if you teach somebody to teach that to younger people, then they learn it better.
And i understand what you’re saying, but that’s how you create that legacy? That’S awesome when the weakest link gets better, everything gets better.
Our sparring was insane like it was so high level because everybody was constantly getting better.
We all like it wasn’t like way up here and way down here.
It was like no like it’d, be like here here, like everything kept on going, and so when you got to like our lowest level guy like you’d, be like oh, my gosh that guy’s good.
It’S like yeah, because you know right.
We continue to raise the bar, and i i love that, like the one thing that i always didn’t like agree with was when people would have to kind of bring themselves to hear or to hear just to accommodate.
It’S like it’s, but i always personally love to be around people that were had so much more experience than me, because then i knew that they would force me to really bring out the best i had in me and then just practicing those kinds of skills practicing That kind of mindset like even when i sparred with mandy in so many different occasions, it’s like it, tells me like that’s where that bar is that’s where that is, and that’s where i need to get, and i push myself and push myself just to reach that Bar, that’s so important, no, absolutely and something that we need to do as coaches right like, like you said like.
Why should an athlete have to reach down like go down to another level to just you know, be able to get good sparring like.
Why doesn’t that athlete kind of reach down he’ll drag the next person up and exactly you know.
I’Ve seen that with mandy time and time again, you know she’ll do some sparring with somebody and you know: she’ll break a person down and after she’s done sparring she’ll go over and spend 10 15 minutes teaching that young girl how to get better.
She wasn’t like all right, i’m here you’re there sucker, i’m just like i’m here.
Let me try and help you to get a little bit higher yourself and that’s that’s the culture, because just like what you said when you make somebody better, the quality gets better and then, as you keep bringing them up, then all of a sudden you’re like okay.
Now i have to step it up a little bit in this area and that’s how you get better too.
It is really a teamwork.
At the end of the day as much as it’s an individual sport, it’s really a team sport.
At the end of the day.
Absolutely you’re getting it.
Is there a goal in your opinion that hasn’t been achieved yet in one woman’s boxing that you would like to see in women’s boxing like women’s boxing in general or women’s boxing in canada, i’ll say, canada uh, you know what i’ll say, i’m gon na say general, But i think canada is a perfect place to start, because i think we both know what we’re talking about [ Laughter, ], uh, yeah in canada.
I mean olympic gold medal.
Um, you know would be uh would be nice, uh and hopefully uh again uh coming soon.
Uh this summer we will be able to accomplish that um we’ve got uh tamera uh, i don’t know tamara’s last name but phenomenal fighter and uh she’s got a great chance to you know it’s a podium um.
You know they’re all good, but i mean those are some of the ones that stood out to me, tamara and, of course, mandy right and so it’d be nice to see both of them uh, you know, get gold medals, absolutely yeah.
Those two girls are ferocious and it’s funny because mandy’s 51 and what weight class does tamara fight she’s super tall yeah like 80, i don’t know 81, like she’s she’s, yeah yeah 81 kilo.
Here you got 51 kilo here, two like deadliest females right there in the country.
So for you i think i know the answer, but for our audience, who is your choice? A female boxer for others to look up to as the gold standard? Yeah, that’s easy! It’S it’s definitely uh mandy mandible, 100 yeah, and it’s again i always like to look at the history of excellence.
So what you’re doing now is great, it’s important, but it’s what was it built on and when you look at you know, since she was 16, i think she like 16.
She didn’t lose.
You know a national championships until she had.
You know she didn’t lose at all.
She went and had a baby which was important and then came back right, so that was her little break.
That was a little high.
This gave somebody an opportunity to sneak in there for one shot but um.
You know unprecedented 11 national championships and when you just think about that, like how many people are are just trying to get to the one or the two of the three 11 right, like that’s, you know, and obviously, internationally yeah, but um the the work ethic.
The discipline um, you know the humble attitude um just yeah, it’s it’s definitely and you can see why you know um brands like under armour – and you know, everlast want to come out, come alongside and support her and be a part of that right.
So absolutely well, because somebody with um with that kind of work ethic somebody can look at that and it doesn’t necessarily have to be in boxing, but just that work ethic to obtain something that you want is something alone to admire.
I mean this girl trains like six days a week like when she double trained those six days a week or something like that.
She works and works and works, and it’s all for that.
One goal that she’s seen for years and despite even her 2016, we’ll say we’ll, say, setback just that little glitch there.
Aside from that, though, that never stopped her she’s like this is my goal and nothing’s stopping me until i get that goal no matter what and that, like even before the olympics was even because she’s been competing before 2012, but she knew that there was going to Be a moment that she was going to get that that olympic gold yeah yeah no totally and i’m going to call that a 2016 uh 2016 experience experience.
Thank you for like thank you yeah, because now, when you hear her talk about it, you know she’s not bitter she’s like that is what it is, what it is, and that has actually made me stronger.
Yes right, i’ve got another opportunity and that opportunity and consider like what she went through and was able to still get in the ring and uh.
She knocked the girl down in that fight, and you know uh to finish that and do that now.
Like i mean that experience has just made her, you know even stronger and you know not.
I mean even linux, lewis lennox lewis, 84 uh lost uh.
I think he lost his first either first or second fight 84.
Nobody remembers that what do they remember? 88.
Gold medal: what are they going to remember? Mandy 2021 gold medal they’re going to pick up.
You know what i mean yeah.
Absolutely i 100 agree.
Thank you for that.
Do you have any last motivating words for our audience, motivating words yeah.
I mean you know what um male female uh.
Whatever i mean, there is a system and a process to success and failure.
Both just don’t happen.
It just doesn’t just happen like there are things that happen along the way like i was saying you know the wheels just don’t fall off the bus.
It’S like a nut falls off here.
Nut falls off here or vice versa.
You put a nut on here.
You put a nut on here.
You like there’s little things that happen along the way that either create your success or they create your your failure and it’s a system and a process to everything, and so just be aware of that.
If um you’re not experiencing the success, you want an area think about the system.
What is my system? What is my process? How do i improve on that? If you improve on the process in the system, the outcome will be what it’s going to be and you can continue to improve on the uh the process, that’s what we control over.
Thank you so much sid.
That’S absolutely amazing! Thank you.
So much for taking the time to be here with everybody, share your experiences and just talk about what you’ve seen your experiences alone.
I’M sure is going to really really motivate a lot of people out there.
I’M happy to be able to share my experience and thank you for doing what you’re doing with the show, and i wish you much much success.
Thank you so much sid can i get them up softball.
So, oh i’m gon na.
Do it too? Ah, nice good work.
Thank you so much sid you’re, welcome, we’ll see you soon and everybody tune in next friday.
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