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Join Lou Eisen on this episode of Ring Talk with Talkin Fight as he delves into the iconic November 22, 1965 world heavyweight title bout between Muhammad Ali and Floyd Patterson. Discover the intense rivalry, tactics, and key moments of this legendary fight that solidified Ali’s status as the greatest. Don’t miss this in-depth analysis and discussion! ??
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We have a very good show for you today.
I want to wish all my friends a Happy Easter that are celebrating Easter, happy pesach, uh, Happy Passover to all my Jewish friends and have an easy fast on Ramadan from my many Muslim friends.
I’M going to turn my cell phone off.
So we don’t hear that annoying ding, uh anymore uh.
The photo you saw at the beginning and when we just came on was an interesting photo.
It’S it’s the photo of the fight.
It’S we’re talking about the the um uh fight between this is Muhammad Ali’s.
First, title defense: after winning the title from Sonny Liston February 25th, 1964 and then after he defends the title against list and beatsumo one round, and then he takes on Floyd Patterson, who was his first non-listen opponent on November 22nd, 1965 at the Las Vegas Convention Center.
In Las Vegas Nevada and that punch, which was landed, I think in the second round that Straight Lead right hand.
Uh was a favorite bunch of Ali’s and it hurt Patterson and I think then, in the second round, Patterson was ready to go and Ali refused to knock him out sorry about going that far backwards, but um I had to get my coffee Starbucks coffee.
So, if you’re listening to Starbucks – yes, I love your coffee, so um Ali could have knocked him up, but he didn’t Ali went to punish him for that fight um.
This is a great fight and it’s a great fight for many reasons.
Let’S get down to brass tacks: free wins, four losses: he lost England, Mario Hansen and he lost twice to to uh um to Sonny Liston, and I’m trying to think of the other loss on his record coming up then, but um and to Ali at that time.
Ali enters to fight 22-0 and it’s an interesting fight.
Thank you.
Ali didn’t want to dislike, Floyd Patterson, they became friends later and Ali was complimentary to him, but you see when they’re in the center of the ring for referee, Harold, it was the five-point must system.
Uh for Harold Krauss referee, Harold krauss’s instructions, Ali just kept saying: hey white man’s fighter, how you doing White America, I’m gon na whoop, your ass, I’m gon na punish you today, I’m going to humiliate you today, you’re gon na get a whooping today, you’re gon na Beg me to knock you out, you’re gon na, say Ali.
Please knock me out.
Patterson made the mistake of making a personal.
He called him clay.
He said I’m going to bring the title back to America now Lisa.
What do you mean back to America? I’M American? I was born and raised here.
My family goes back five six Generations here.
Why are you doing this? Why are you doing the white man’s bidding? You know I’m a Muslim you’re, a Christian! I don’t insult your religion.
I don’t have anything bad to say about you.
I respect you, I call you by your name, I change my name.
I legally changed it to Muhammad Ali.
I have that right.
People change their name and you refusing to call me that, and he said, if you don’t think, I’m an American see who I pay.
Taxes to I’m an American, you know I want a gold medal for the United States in the Olympics same as you did Floyd, and and yet you won’t give me that respect Muhammad called Floyd Patterson the rabbit, because he’s scared like a rabbit and there’s a great Video of him smiling at Patterson’s training, camp and Ali standing.
There, Ali had small big hands compared to me and you small hands compared to other heavyweights, but he had big hands.
I think and Ali’s standing there and he’s got carrots, celery, lettuce and other stuff in his hands, and he said I’m nicknaming you, you are the rabbit Ali was six three and three quarters.
Patterson was just six feet and Ali said what makes you think you can whoop me and Patterson just goes like this.
You are the rabbit, so I want you to eat all these vegetables.
I want you to keep training and be ready for our fight, for when I whoop you, I don’t want any excuses from you at all, and Patterson uh made a mistake of insisting on calling Ali Cassius Clay, and that was a sore spot with them later on, Or at that time later, on, uh Ali had an attitude change in in which he didn’t really care.
What people called him uh it just ignored it and years and years and years later, in the 80s 90s.
He would you know, Patterson would see him and say: hey clay or hey Cassius and Ali just ignored it, but once in Vegas Ali was there with his manager, Gene Kilroy, and this was in the 90s and like written, a restaurant and Patterson came in and said, Hey Cassius and Gene Carroll got up and said just a second Muhammad, and he put his arm around Floyd come on buddy.
This isn’t right.
The man’s been called Muhammad Ali.
Everyone calls him Ali.
Even Frazier calls him Muhammad Ali.
Even Ernie.
Terrell now calls him Muhammad Ali.
Everyone does don’t do that, come on no more fighting between YouTube.
You guys are friends.
Now your compatriots give the man is due and finally Patterson said I I I’m sorry Muhammad and called them that after, but this was a very, very turbulent violent time.
This is 65 right in the middle right in the middle of the turbulent 60s, the most terrible in decade ever in the history of the United States, where there could have been a Civil War.
People talk now about how the United States there could be a civil war.
This was more violent.
This was an unpopular War.
The Vietnam War and and and Ali was at the center of three different movements.
He was at the center of the youth movement, the anti-vietnam war movement and the Civil Rights Movement, so Patterson Patterson it it isn’t that Patterson was against civil rights, certainly not, and it wasn’t that he didn’t suffer from racism because he did Passion had a rough upbringing.
He was born in in North Carolina, moved to New York and was a juvenile delinquent and went to a school where for delinquents which changed his life around and eventually became a boxer and was trained by the great custom model, but Patterson preferred to do things.
Excuse me his way so Patterson met with with John F Kennedy and he met with all these powerful politicians and people.
You know Ali said you met with all these powerful white politicians.
Well, most of the politicians are right, then, wasn’t that there weren’t black politicians it was that African-Americans weren’t allowed to position the power back then.
So you know it was Kennedy who said to Patterson.
Don’T defend your title against.
Listen listens, part of the mob which he was and and he’s a bad man and you know, don’t take the chance, but he did and – and this is one of the conundrums of the fight Patterson – who stood there – terrified against Liston and lost to him.
In a couple of minutes, twice, first fight, two minutes and six seconds.
Second, fight, two minutes and 10 seconds and so Patterson’s destroyed by Elizabeth Ali comes along easily beats lists in the first fight easily beats in the second fight, and now he fights Patterson and Ali’s a huge favorite.
I mean Ali’s 212 215 pounds, Patterson’s 198 Ali six.
Three and three quarters Patterson is barely six feet: tall Patterson’s the quickest guy Ali ever fought by Ali’s on a mission, but a couple weeks before the fight during training, Patterson, let’s say screen but a moan, it goes down to one knee he’s, got a slip disc.
They take him to the hospital they x-ray him.
They said the disc is slipped in your back.
So what should I do? You should be resting for about eight months to a year and he said I can’t I’m fighting for the world title in a couple of weeks.
I can’t rest, you know, can you give me painkillies? We can give you painkillers and relaxants, but you’ll be groggy during the fight you know, so they gave him a lot of massage a lot of heat, a lot of whirlpools, but still he went into the fight with his doctor saying Floyd.
This isn’t right.
It would be like you going into the fight with a broken arm: you’re not going to fight Muhammad Ali with one arm.
You’Re back, you need your back.
The Paterson said I have a contract, I’m not going to let the people down, I’m not gon na.
Let America down America was very divided, then the audience in attendance didn’t like Ali, they booed Ali and so for this fight.
Uh.
At the convention center referees, Harold Krauss one of the judges, was Harold Buck.
The other was Bill stremel for some reason they had it.
On the Five Point, mud system, which I thought was silly and at the end of Ali, won it and we’ll get to that in in a couple of minutes uh.
So when he called him an uncle or when he called Ali Cassius Clay and Clay.
Uh Ali responded by calling him an Uncle Tom, a white man’s fighter, uh and Ali said I’m I I could easily Knock You Out.
I can easily destroy you, I’m not going to do that.
I’M going to humiliate you, I’m going to punish you, I’m going to beat you up and make you suffer, and this was worse than knocking a man out because there’s been fights before you know.
For instance, when Marciano fought Joe Lewis, his hero and Marciano was beating Lewis pretty bad, but he was holding back from knocking him out and his trainer, Charlie Goldman, said Rocky come on.
I know you love the guy, but it’s it’s more.
It’S crueler to let him go to distance and and make him suffer by beating him up around just get him out of there.
Let’S end it, let the old man go home and he did Ali didn’t want to do that with Patterson Ali wanted to make Patterson suffer.
So when they go to the center of the ring for Harold krauss’s instructions, you can’t even hear her old crowd so Sally.
It’S high white boy, high white man, high White America, I’m gon na whoop, your ass, I’m Gon na Make You Suffer, I’m gon na humiliate you today, you’re not gon na even line the shot and the rounds start first round starts Ali’s dancing around like he always Does and when he does, when Natalie dances around I’m just trying to adjust the camera here, so you get my screaming Jay Hawkins hairdo uh when Ali’s dancing around you know Patterson’s trying to go after him, but he can’t hit him Ali’s coming close to Patterson.
Now he’s got his hands by his side and he’s saying: come on, come on, come on you’re, nothing, but an amateur you’re, not even an amateur you’re.
What they call a bum and the audience is booing and Patterson is throwing punches.
He can’t land.
You know he just simply can’t laugh he’s not quick enough and Ali’s moving around dancing around Ally’s Landing.
A couple of punches here and there he doesn’t even want to start in the first round, doesn’t even want to start to attack Patterson in the first round.
He just wants to humiliate him and Ali’s at a distance.
This is an interesting thing.
Last night Sebastian Fundora got knocked out in six rounds by Brian Mendoza, different fight Mendoza under six feet.
Fedora 6’5 fandora likes to square up rather than use his height and reach, and he got caught.
He got caught in close with his hands down Ali by contrast, would have his hands down, but he’d be far enough away that when you leaped in to get him, he was still out of range and knew he had a room in back of him to move Back or to move sideways to make sure you couldn’t hit him Fedora didn’t do that, but then again there’s only one Ali um, so they said, Patterson fought the entire fight with a bad back.
That’S not really true.
Patterson was back was pretty fine for the first four rounds.
It wasn’t a latter part of the fourth or fifth round where the slip disc started to come into play and Patterson was a lot of pain.
Now I’ve had I’ve had a lot of uh, um, uh muscle spasms before and I’m sure a lot of people have in your back and when you do that, all you can do is take medication lie down and read and or sleep and rest that’s the only Thing that works that and and massage or Whirlpool well Patterson was was so out of it because it was back and in such pain, his trainer Al silvani.
Now you may not recognize your name, but everyone watching knows Al silvani.
Al Solani uh was the movie uh a Raging.
Bull he’s got the Q-tip behind his ear and um.
He was lifting Patterson up, you know and trying to straighten his back out and massage him in between rounds, but he to no effect, of course, so Patterson keeps coming out and his back hurts and he’s swaying side to side.
But of course, he’s throwing.
These punches.
He’S leaping in it’s almost like his arms they’ve, said we’re independent of his body he’s leaping in throwing shots and because he’s leaping in he’s throwing roundheld shots Ali can see them easily and Ally.
Just gets out of the way and he’s pounding him in the second round, as you saw in the photo that uh the producer.
My producer boys put up a valley Landing a lead right hand and distorting Patterson’s face a lead right hand in boxing.
Is a sucker punch, it’s an insult to a fighter.
So, basically, when you throw a lead right hand, you’re, throwing it across your body alley through the same shot of Foreman, first punch of the fight.
What you’re saying is I’m going to Telegraph? This punch I’m going to let you know it’s coming, but I have so little respect for you on your boxing ability, I’m going to throw it and land it anyways, because you don’t have the capability to stop it and that’s what he did.
He was throwing Elite right hands, but his speed was so quick and his power that he would rock Patterson of those shots.
And then you follow up for the left and then you hit Patterson five, six, seven shots and he back him up to the ropes.
And you have a couple more shots and Patterson’s legs would wobble and then Ali would back off Ali would say nope, I’m not knocking you out today.
You don’t get knocked out today.
You get punished and Joe Lewis after the fight would say Ali showed that he’s selfish and cruel.
Well, you know I I don’t it’s hard to comment on that.
Angela Dundee, who was my mentor, kept yelling at Ali Jesus Christ, Muhammad pardon expression, but that’s what he said knock him out already but Ali.
You know why not pedestal nut.
He wanted to humiliate him for the way he’d been treated.
Lewis called him selfish and cruel Ali and Lewis were great Fighters at upset Ali.
That Lewis, wouldn’t give him his due, because only a fighter as supremely brilliant as Joe Lewis could recognize how truly great Ali was, and Ali called Joe Lewis and Uncle Tom at times, which was completely untrue.
Joe Lewis said a progressive scammer.
He he didn’t like to talk in public, because people made fun of his stammer, so he decided to not talk, but Joe Lewis fought for civil rights in the Army.
He fought for civil rights in the 1960s, he just didn’t March, or do it the way Ali did by being outspoken.
He worked behind the scenes to call people in government in a different government agencies to affect change, and there was a famous story about him and Sugar, Ray Robinson were in the Army down south and some lowly privates called Lewis and Robinson.
The n-word and Robinson was enraged.
You know who this is.
This is Joe Lewis.
This is God and Louis and Robinson jumped in the guy and beat him up and they got in trouble in the journal and said: where do you n words get off treating white soldiers like that and Robinson was like well, but he called Joe Lewis’s name.
We were just standing there, we weren’t doing shut up, you N word and so Lewis thought when he he loved Robinson, but he thought you know getting into this physical fight on a southern army base in the 40s.
This this doesn’t gain us anything.
These people aren’t going to listen, they don’t care who started it or who’s right.
So Lewis has to be excused to make a phone call and he called the guy.
He knew him and Gibson a lawyer who worked for uh, Franklin, Roosevelt, the president and it went through channels.
And finally, the general gets a call, and it’s Franklin, Roosevelt the president, who dressed a general down the two or three white soldiers who used the n-word against Lewis and Robinson were dishonorably discharged.
General was was busted down the strike, so Lewis got his way, but he didn’t physically attack or get in people’s face.
He worked behind the scenes to affect change and it Ali loved him Ali truly loved him.
He didn’t speak well of him and Joe Lewis’s son who’s, a wonderful person.
You know still upset about that.
I mean to me: there’s nothing bad.
You could say about Joe Lewis, so Lewis, Ally’s favorite picture was a picture of him.
You may have seen with Lewis and Sugar Ray Robinson, because those were his Heroes.
I mean Joe Lewis, I mean I’m getting emotional.
Now Joe Lewis was the hero to the entire world.
You couldn’t know him or know of him and not absolutely love him.
Anyways um Ali is pounding him and he keeps saying to him: come on American, come on White American, come on white America’s fighter and third round fourth round and Ali’s throwing six seven eight punch combinations and because he’s so angry at Patterson he’s telling him here comes Double jab right hand left hook after right hand, double right hand, he’s calling his punches, which he did against listen it’s hard to explain how truly frustrating and devastating it is to be in against a guy who’s.
So much better than you and he’s hitting you with six seven eight punches and as he’s doing it he’s telling you which punches are coming, so you know, and you still can’t hit it or excuse me, you still can’t block them when I said hit it uh.
What I was referring to a course that, of course, but there was a great one of the all-time, not the greatest picture of all time – Greg Maddox.
I was talking about baseball players, stealing signs and he said I’ll tell you.
He actually said on the mound to a hitter.
You don’t have to steal signs I’ll, tell you what pitch I’m throwing.
It makes no difference.
If you know it what’s coming, you’re still not going to hit it because it’s control and his Precision was so great.
They couldn’t hit it anyways.
I Ali would tell you what punch was coming upset with you difference, because you weren’t going to stop the punch.
Anyways speed negates Power.
Alley was too quick and too strong and from rounds one to three and three to five and the sixth round, he had Patterson ready to go and we’ve all seen fights where a guy gets hit and then he’s staggered.
You know I mean last night the fedoren fight when Mendoza hit him with that, with the check left hook and Fedora stood there when he stumbled and then he came back and hit him with a right hand and another left hook that first left hook.
He thought he’s not it’s not just that Fender, it’s going to go down, he’s he’s done, he’s beat and Ali had Patterson that way many times and when he hidden with that shot and Patterson’s legs, buckled and Ali could have landed two more hard shots and knocked Him down or out he wouldn’t do it.
He refused to he stepped back and just put his hands by his side, and he just said no, I’m not gon na knock.
You out, I’m Gon na Make You Suffer and that was considered cruel.
In a sense, it was but Patterson brought that on himself, Patterson didn’t have to make it personal.
I mean Angelo, would say to him.
You know come on Floyd it.
You know, he’s not saying anything negative to you.
Just call him by his name.
I call him by his name.
Why can’t you do that? And he wouldn’t do it another interesting side, light which people don’t mention about this fight.
It was promoted by Intercontinental uh production run by Jack Nyland, who was a monster out of Philadelphia um and in order to get the fights with listen Ali had to sign a contract of listings management.
They were mobbed up and that included.
He had to agree to a if you want to rematch and his first title defense after that.
So this was the last time that InterContinental had anything to do with Ali, after that it was all Ali by himself and and then they glommed on to Ernie Terrell.
So in the sixth round Ali gets is Just landing at will and Patterson’s back is killing him and he’s trying to move.
But every time he moves he’s excruciating pain and he just takes a knee out of exhaustion.
He’S taken six, seven, eight shots in a row to the head and he takes a knee and the referee, Harold Krauss at that point said you know this is a farce, because this guy has virtually no chance, and I really should stop this, but he took a Knee he got up before the count of 10 so and – and actually he didn’t even start counting for a while, because Ali refused to go to neutral corner, he said, don’t even bother to count, don’t even count over this bum.
This bum’s got nothing and finally, Ali goes to the corner and he starts counting and Patterson gets up and Ali would stand.
You know a couple feet from Paterson with his hands down and his chin out and Patterson couldn’t do anything about it.
His back, wouldn’t let him he’d throw a leaping left, Toco or right hand, but made no difference.
He couldn’t get Ali Ali was too much taller and Ali would hold that left hand of his like he used to do in Pat Patterson on the head.
He would just tap him on the head or hold it in his face to prevent him from coming in and audience was booing out leave vociferously and after the fight Ali said he was disappointed because people there he heard cheers he didn’t want to hear cheers.
He wanted people to Boom the more they boo, the harder I fight, the more they boo, the more of a beating Patterson was getting so he did not want them to cheer.
I mean Ali was using their own hatred against them, so uh the fight goes on and everyone thought Ali was treating Patterson cruelty and disrespect, but Patterson brought that upon himself and at the end of the fight when it was stopped in the 12th round.
Uh the scores for 53-46, 54, 45, 53-43, all four Ally, and it was Ali’s second defense of of the uh of the world heavyweight title and the problem.
The racial problem before the fight started because uh uh Floyd Patterson, saying the image of a black Muslim as the World Heavyweight Champion, disgraces the sport in the nation.
Well, it shouldn’t have said black Muslim, just Muslim and, of course it’s different, then than it is now with Farrakhan who’s.
Apparently bigot and anti-semica we’re not going to get into that.
Um Ali had a right to freedom of religion.
It’S in the Constitution and and Patterson had really no reason to say that uh ali-changing relation was not a disgrace to the sport of boxing in the nation.
You know the mafia controlling boxing for 60 years.
It was a disgrace to the sport in the nation, Patterson’s trainer and manager.
Custom model had a lot of mob ties.
He didn’t like them, but that was part of the game.
That was how the game was played.
You know those guys were a disgrace, but not Muhammad Ali and Patterson said he was going to bring the title back to America and um Ali said, as I said earlier, if you don’t believe the title’s already in America just see who I pay my taxes to Also Ali said – and I want to quote Ali said this fight – will be a mismatch.
It will be no match.
Floyd Patterson is too short, he’s too slow.
You don’t have the reach, you can’t take a punch, you don’t hit hard and he don’t have the footwork.
This will be a mismatch.
This will be like an amateur fighting, a good Pro I’ll hit him at least six times to every Miss he throws, and he did Ali hit him six times ten times 15 times to every time.
Patterson missed him and Patterson said after the fight.
In my honest opinion, if I was watching the fight at home on TV, I would have wanted it stopped, but I preferred to be counted out.
Patterson really complained and objected when referee Harry crowd stopped fight in 12th round and he knew he was losing and he knew he had no chance of winning, but he objected because he said he thought that a champion has to go out on his gum.
Shield Champion goes out by being knocked out, but he wasn’t the champion at that time, although he was a two-time former Undisputed World Heavyweight Champion.
So he wanted the honor the right to be knocked out on his back and counted out.
He didn’t want it to be stopped, wanted to be stopped, but the problem was his back was in such excruciating pain.
You know he had to be helped from the ring and it took him a long while of rest and Rehabilitation to get his back straight.
Everyone who’s watching me now knows that if you have back spasms, you know how it’s just you’re, not capable of moving, but that’s what Patterson had, because it had slipped disc and he just wasn’t able to give it a good fight Ali dominated every round the audience Booed you could hear Angel Dundee yelling snake like him, snake lick him, in other words, use the jab use that Jab or yardstick people say used to stick yard, stick them.
These were old.
These are old old used to stick.
These are old boxing terms going back.
Well, over 100 years, Ali would used to jab and just jab Patterson’s head off and then come over with the right hand and Patterson, because his back was frozen.
There was nothing he could do.
You know guys could move when last night, I watched bam, Rodriguez fight, Christian Gonzalez, I love bam Rodriguez grade fighter and the way he was slipping punches by a tenth of an inch.
The way the other guy would line his chin up and he would just – and it would just miss him – that’s what you’re supposed to do and then you counter but Patterson, because his back wouldn’t let him move.
He would move and he’d be in such pain.
He couldn’t get out of the waves of time she knew he had to take it.
People said well, maybe Ali doesn’t have a knockout punch and it’s Angel Dundee said to me: anyone that’s over six three and over 200 pounds got a knock-up punch, even a woman.
So Ali had a knock-up punch, he just refused to knock him out.
He didn’t want to knock him out.
He wanted to make him suffer.
That’S why Joe Lewis said after the fight he could have knocked Patterson out whenever he wanted to, but he didn’t, and that was cruel and he had a point to an extent.
But there was a great article in Sports, Illustrated by Gilbert Rogan and in the article it says, Ali is going to be the world champion as long as he wants to, and it said, although he never put a Valor, it’s Floyd Patterson down for the count.
Cassius Clay, so he calls him Cassius Clay.
He he insults them displayed an awesome range of skills, as he batted his opponent at will and proved to a sometimes skeptical public that he is, as he says, the greatest, and when you look at this article, the interesting thing is there are little racial digs.
It’S written by a white man in 1965.
.
Now it says here he was seeking to humiliate humiliate Floyd Patterson, but Cassius Clay known to his fellow black Muslims, as Muhammad Ali only succeeded in it.
No believe him.
He thought he made Patterson a greater figure than he was by trying to humiliate him, but he refers to him here as Cassius Clayton and Muhammad Ali didn’t come out and just say you better call me this.
He said this is my new name.
That’S what I want to be called why people couldn’t do it is beyond me um and he they said.
You know that uh Patterson uh was indisputably beaten and and horribly Bent by back pain so that he had to Clump about, like a man and the days before he was able to stand fully erect and he lasted out of clay, keeps calling him clay.
Many times.
Ineffectual hooks of Floyd hobble to his Corner after every round, where one of his hand Loops would grab him around the waist, lift them up and massage his back squeeze him and trying desperately to alleviate the pain and make him whole again and in the 12th round.
When it had long been clear that Patterson had no hope at all of Landing a blow with enough Force to knock clay out and Clay standing at a distance was freely hitting Floyd, with dozens of unanswered punches Clay’s trainer Angelo Dundee full of pity, and disgust cried From the corner, Ally knock him out already, coincidentally, Harry Kraus compassioning signal that the fight was over Krauss in fact wanted to stop it in the 11th.
This is what the referee said.
He said it was hurting me to watch, but he is such a good boy.
He called Patterson a boy uh, which is in itself racist and has such a great heart, and I just couldn’t do it Patterson uh protested when the fight would stop and it was a Jester.
He said that deserved Applause.
He said.
I understand him stopping and I understand why he did.
I had no chance, but, as a former Champion, I deserve the right to be knocked out uh, but he said in losing Floyd Patterson.
This is what Gilbert Rogan the writer for Sports, Illustrated a well-known writer said uh with Patterson losing.
He brought something back to boxing that had been missing of late uh, particularly in heavyweight Division, and that is a sense of high Valor.
They characterized it in the past and made it such a grand eminent spectacle Ali had brought that back to boxing a sense of high Valor when he went against.
Listen Audi was a seven to one Underdog.
Those were the best odds could get.
If you looked around, most of them were 10 to 1 15 to 1.
You can get higher odds.
Ali was given no chance and both listening fights and came through so in winning the incomparable clay once again calls him clay that child the scorn showed that he’ll possibly be Champion as long as he wants.
That is everything going for him, except the true knockout punch and perhaps for who can Define the strange things that move this man he has that too, but for some peculiar reason do not try to throw it early enough or often enough, it might have been cruelty.
It might have been also sympathy for he had said a day or two before the fight animals are vicious.
This is a famous alley quote: animals of fishes humans shouldn’t be vicious, I’m just an aggressive, classy, creative fighter.
I may be the last heavyweight champion ever why well, if there’s fighting after I’m gone, it’ll just be a dull old thing, no more poems, no predictions, no more hollering, I’m I’m the most popular thing on the planet and he was right.
There have been great Fighters after him, exciting Fighters Fighters Mike Tyson, Tyson, very own Glenn Lewis, but there’s never been another Ali and he said Patterson threata says Gilbert Robin Patterson um, just never got rolling.
Patterson himself said I was a champion.
I was a good champion and I know I am nearing the end uh.
He also said that he was a sir loser, but if this fight was indeed as valedictory, he could not have made a more fitting one.
He had a little chance of winning.
He could not get inside play or even catch up to him and when he did clock clay, tied him up and um and he said, fighting’s a fight and a better man usually wins, and the writer said actually to be more accurate.
The better fighter usually wins.
Doesn’T mean he’s a better man, but the thing about uh this fight too is Ali was very well aware of the fact that Patterson’s back was bad.
So, in order to exacerbate that, when Patterson got close Ally would shove his head down and then just hold him and of course, when you’re in pain, like I mean it made the pain that much more excruciating but Ali didn’t care, he wanted him to suffer.
That’S what Ali did when you got close, you tie a guy up, Ally was so much bigger and so much stronger than Madison.
He had no problem, um tying them up and in fact you know what Rogan says here.
In the first round, clay showed Patterson a lot of nothing had his hands down and he just drifted about the ring inviting Patterson to do what he would or what he could.
Floyd tried some left hand some Jabs, some hooks, but with nothing, nothing landed and when he tried to get inside clay tied him up and from time to time, uh clay would talk to him and Patterson said after I don’t know what he was saying, but I Was disgusted that I couldn’t do anything about it? Well, clay actually said was come on America and come on White American and it was an eerie scene.
He kept, he kept pounding Patterson throughout the fight.
He kept humiliating Patterson.
He kept embarrassed in Paterson and all the while he’s keeping up the steady rat attack on his face he’s hitting him with Jabs coming over bright hooks.
It’S amazing Patterson didn’t go down sooner.
When Patterson went down in the sixth round.
I didn’t think he was going to get up.
I mean Patterson took a ferocious beating from from Ali and he was Brave to keep continuing.
I mean if Patterson, you know his corner.
Just said this is pointless: you’re, not gon.
Na win.
You can’t win you’re.
Just what are you doing you’re just here, to take a beating and why you know? Let’S do it another time, and this was even before the fight when his trainer and custom owl said: listen, let’s just you’re not going to win with a bad back.
Let’S postpone this, but he didn’t.
Ironically, the next fight Ali had was against Georgia.
Valo was not considered even remotely a skilled as Patterson, although I thought he beat Patterson in the previous year in a great fight and when he beat Patterson uh.
The fight Patterson won the decision that was in New York.
Patterson was a former world champion.
It was a 12-round fight and about five minutes later Patterson collapse from internal injuries.
If he’d gotten 15 rounds, George would have won by nanko, but he fights George and Alice’s huge favor to knock George out.
Although George has not only never been knocked down, he’s ever been hurt and, of course show Allah goes the distance with Ali and puts Ali in the hospital, so there’s no telling one way or the other who’s going to win in a fight based on.
What’S happened in previous fights because, based on what Ali did to listen, he should have taken Patterson out in a couple rounds and he fought him again.
I think in 72 and beat him so by decision.
So I give Patterson credit for for going after Ali.
He wanted to win the World title three times but Ali at that point.
In 1965, no man in history could have beat him the only one that would have given him.
A great fight would have been Joe Lewis on the night.
Lou was fought.
Smelling I mean that would have been the ultimate boxing match other than that no one big Sally in 1965 or 66 or 67.
Patterson had a shot.
He did his best Patterson went on to become uh New York State boxing.
Commissioner.
Then he started to suffer from dementia, so he stepped down very polite man.
I met him a couple times, but when I met him I thought he was already in the throes of dementia.
He wasn’t fair, but who am I I mean just hey hi, you know and uh, but very personable person and everyone.
Well, everyone loved them and uh.
You know he did his best, but Ali.
Eventually, they made peace with Patterson apologizing to him for calling him those names, and you know Ali said you know I always liked you Floyd.
That’S what upset me when, when you said that you were going to bring the title back to America, I’d never done anything wrong to you.
I always liked you.
I always complimented you and Ali made a point after the fight when Cosell said so.
You hate Patterson.
No, I don’t hate, I don’t hate him the same after the Ernie Terrell fight.
No, I don’t hate Ernie, he didn’t hate.
He just didn’t like what they were doing.
So he decided to teach them a lesson, and you know, as Angela Dundee would say, you don’t want to give the other guy extra motivation to kick your ass guy’s in there already to knock you out to beat you and now you’re going to insult him to His face, I mean that’s just you know, picking a guy’s religion or his family or his wife or his kids.
That’S the wrong thing to do and that’s exactly what Patterson did and he paid a hell of a price for it.
He took a whale of a beating and he continued fighting after that for another seven years, but after that fight he was never the same.
Ali took him apart methodically in each round and dished out a beating sure Ali could have stopped it in any round, but he chose not to to teach Patterson lesson, and I think it was the lesson he chose to teach every other heavyweight.
He was waiting in line to fight him.
Call me Cassius Clay at your own Peril at your own risk, because if you do you’re going to end up just like Floyd Patterson ended up beaten, battered bruised bloodied and vanquished.
Thank you for watching.
I bring talk.
Uh hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend great Easter weekend.
Uh, my name is Lou Eisen and we’ll see you again next Sunday.
At the same time take care bye-bye
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