AIR DATE: Apr 20 2022 12:58UTC
EPISODE: Episode 8
James Hagler Jr | Knuckle Up with Mike and Cedric | TalkinFight.com
Mike and Cedric are joined in the studio by James Hagler Jr., who is the grandson of the legendary Marvelous Marvin Hagler and a rising Super Middleweight Boxer.
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[, Music ]: what up talking fight fans thanks for tuning in today’s episode of knuckle up at 4 with mike orr, and today we have, in the studio with us a special guest, none other than james hagler jr.
Thank you for taking up the time to come and join us today.
James uh, much respect and love to you just uh want to get started.
Man um tell us how you tell us well, first of all, i kind of i’m kind of believing i think i know how he got into boxing, because you know you are this.
You are the grandson of marvin hagler and your father also was a boxer as well james hagler, so um yeah.
Well, how did you get into it man? How did you get started in the game? Like i said, i grew up knowing a lot about boxing, but i started playing football at first, but i always wanted the box, but you know just know who my granddad was and then my dad and my uncle robert they box as well right.
So i’ve been a thing for my whole life, be honest with you yeah right.
What uh, what age were you when you first stepped into the gym? What’D, you say what age were you when you first stepped into a boxing gym? I was a child when i first went to a boxing gym, probably like four or five years old, when i first went to a boxing gym four or five: that’s excellent! What’S um! So what age did you start competing? I thought compete when i was 24 24 wow, so real late, eh yeah, i was playing.
I was playing football all the way up to college.
Oh, i went to college when i started boxing when i stopped playing football.
Oh, that’s awesome! Man, that’s awesome! So! Well, you had a long football career and then decided to jump into the boxing game yeah, the very long football career tell us about it.
Let’S hear let’s hear about the football career uh yeah i played on my player since i was started playing when i was five years old by the time i fit.
Last time i shot a fool boxing so from five all the way up to the age.
About 22 21 i played high school football at riverdale high school in georgia.
Then i went to college and played that dean college.
I got a scholarship out there playing football up, yeah in franklin mass, then i traveled to alabama state.
That’S when i stopped playing football.
Wow wow, so what what made you decide? After all, that to just jump in the ring man, because i always wanted to fight? I want people to stop me with my parents, and i was like [ __ ], i’m out of age while i’m a grown man.
So i can make my own decisions now right right now we’re listening to what they had to say.
Just did it did you have much of an amateur career like did you fight many amateur fights? I fought a couple of amateur fights.
I started out fighting now.
My god, i thought i found the golden gloves matter of fact.
Actually how’d that go well.
I fought the championship round, but i didn’t i didn’t win it though i lost a uh, a split decision yeah.
So then you uh.
So then you decided to just jump into the pro game uh to tell us.
I did a couple of smokers and a couple of tournaments and i decided to all just turn professional forever.
My age, i’m not getting no younger right right right uh.
What are some of the short term goals that get that you have right now for uh for boxing my short time, i was really gon na win, may 14th get a professional tv, debut fight and just went out the rest of this year.
That’S my something already focused on for real all right, excellent accident.
So um are you, i guess you’re in camp right now for uh for your mate for your may 14th or you’re gon na be straight.
That’S my first little [ Laughter ].
So you want to run us through like a day in your camp.
What would you go through before a fight uh? Really i get up in the morning and go and run into my start.
My training at eight o’clock and like the week before the fight is really easy.
We just handmade’s jumping rope just make sure we stay the same.
The sparring will be to stop the week before the fight i’ll start starting.
I start sparring excellent, excellent, so um, what’s up tell us tell us um what did you? What did you feel like in your first pro debut like? Did you have nerves? Were you nervous uh, and how did you work through it? No, i started at the fight amateurs and stuff like that, my pro debut it was.
I wasn’t that nervous.
I was kind of calm for real, but it was.
It was exciting, though, for real, i hadn’t had a good time.
I didn’t want to win one round in there, but no, i wasn’t nervous at all.
I was just confident in my training, with my coach put up so much work right, uh, who, who who’s in your corner right now, who are you being coached by? I got my my coach name is elijah.
He walks in atlanta uh what uh! What’S jimmy training out of in atlanta, i tried at the palace boxing gym out here.
It’S a police department, excellent all right, so um yeah, i was talking.
I was talking about having your uh, your dad about him being in your corner and uh.
He was explaining what it’s like for for him to be in your corner.
Can you tell us yeah? He does be in my corner too yeah.
What’S it like? What’S it like having him in your corner, it’s kind of good, because i went when we sparring and stuff like that.
When i spar i do i listen to him, i can hear his voice.
That’S what he’s saying that you can.
You can kind of hear him over everybody else.
I can’t the last fight.
I really couldn’t hear nobody was so loud in there.
I i just didn’t like the venue for real, but i could my brother was right there screaming over him.
So i really i couldn’t hear him my last fight, but my own first fight and when i sparred i hear him.
I do real good, though now listen to what you say right so um.
What are some of the long-term goals? What what are you? What are you looking to accomplish in in your career? I want to be a world champion.
I definitely want to be a millionaire.
I want to be i’m going to be world champion at 168 and 160.
That’S my goal and i might want to go 175, but really i want to just get a belt at the 160 division.
I don’t know we might push for unification, some unification, i like that white classes.
So i got that’s my long time.
Girls right there.
That was excellent.
Do you remember the first time you knocked somebody on the feeling that you got that came over you when you put somebody to sleep with all that hard work that you did um my pro debut.
I hit people harder than that before my pro debut.
It wasn’t even a hard punch.
I just already flicked my jab.
I guess i don’t know why, but he went down like a law.
I don’t hit people way harder than that.
It feels good i’ll be excited, especially when you do a punch that it worked matter of fact.
It wasn’t the power, it was the punch that that was thrown for uh for people out there watching today, right now, um, you know what how how would you describe yourself and your style of boxing and what fight uh would you say best describes your ability? Oh right now, i’m still working on that.
It’S kind of between the mix between i can box, but i can fight [ __ ], brawl too i’m trying to like mix together.
I guess you want to say i want to be like my grandfather, probably like an early spirit, just kind of consistently quite pressure, but but you know you can’t fight everybody the same way.
So, of course i have to fight on defensive side.
I got no good defense, though, for real yeah.
I was watching some of your tapes when you do it’s got some great defense.
That’S definitely the natural talent man that natural born ability that you have considering you know you guys are multi-generational boxers right.
So um any any any plans on uh teaching.
You know after you’re done well, i got a promotional company, i’m kind of starting right now, so when i do get done, but i don’t want to like teach boxes, it’s not about like fighting technique, it’s more about.
Like the business side too, right right help them, so they can make more control of their money and be better with their spending, because you know a lot of our world champions that don’t want world bills.
They’Re broke down right right, nothing else, but yeah.
I do want to like teach that’s what i do.
My help started, helping that pile like just trying to fight us and just be mentors from teaching them more than something just boxing right.
Um swap life promotions, correct! That’S the name of yes yo plug it man, you use this opportunity plug it.
Tell us what what the mission statement is, and it’s all about man all right now from my promotions, we’re right now it’s going to be a promotion company, just like any other club, show stuff like that, but right now we’re just focusing on me right now, though.
Oh, oh who’s! Here, pops pops! Oh no! You about later on here, 10 minutes late.
I was having some problems.
I had to mix up my money right.
Man yeah have some deposit problems yeah, so we’re just we’re just talking about um we’re just talking about swamp life, promotions and uh.
What he’s looking to do with that and uh we’re going over it we’re going over some of uh.
You know some of the things that he’s done in the ring.
First time he’s knocked somebody out also talking about having you in the corner and how he can hear your voice.
Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
So, honestly, the two you two you, i don’t know describe working in the gym together: what’s uh, what’s it like when uh, when you guys are working together, a lot of fussing going on excellent excellent man, um, definitely pushing me for real dream fight.
Who? Who would you fight today or like who’s who’s? Your dream, fight right now, man, my dream fight is right.
Niko like it like it, that’s my dream, for i love to have the grandson versus ground stuff.
I it is what it is.
Is beef? That’S actually james.
You said you were gon na, you said you were gon na.
You were gon na get down and get greedy yo.
I asked ask some questions, your son, that i know that i know i wouldn’t be able to get answers square.
Well, i’m trying to man uh, but my my screen is kind of messed up and it’s throwing me off.
You know so uh hold on give me a second man i wan na i wan na come back in.
It might be the background you think so yeah it might be the background.
I’M gon na change.
It give me that game yeah man for sure for sure so james um.
Definitely i’m looking forward to uh, seeing you jump in the ring man, uh you’re.
Definitely gon na have to um definitely have to send us the link to that uh.
Hopefully it’s streamed or televised so that the public out there can see it man, because you definitely want to see you get in action.
Then, oh, my god yeah we got it all right boxing scene here, man, it’s uh, you know, but it’s not it’s not too well known.
Most of the boxing scene in canada is out of montreal.
We do have some uh, you know, fighters on the international level.
There you know david, lebeau and and uh.
You know castillo, clayton and stuff, like that we do have.
We do have a pretty good fighting beats here in toronto and in canada, but i think we’re kind of slept on man.
I think we’re kind of slept on as boxers.
Well, you wouldn’t he wasn’t back in the game, man, no back in the day we weren’t back in the day.
We worked that’s for sure, but now now yeah now yeah.
I think we’re kind of slept on man.
Well, we got ta, we got ta get some of those fighters out there, man, you know what i’m saying yo we got ta get two promotion.
Companies that i know are sitting right here to uh put some uh things together up in canada, man.
Oh definitely there’s a minute if i put off myself, definitely for sure that’s awesome yeah, so please sit down actually saying uh yeah.
I don’t you know, i think um.
You know i want i want.
What i want to do is i want to.
I don’t want to train them, you know, say i don’t want to trade myself at all.
I want to warm them up.
That’S what i want to do.
I want to warm them up, meaning that okay, i’m getting you ready for your training camp, because i’m going to make him strong but i’ll be pushed.
Though that’s the thing you know, i got, i’m gon na push him and he knows he’s gon na hate it.
But he’ll love me later right right.
He was saying you’re saying before you know you don’t want me, you don’t want me there.
So that’s fine, but i think that if i was to train somebody else and have success, he might look at me a little differently, [ Laughter ].
He was saying by saying that i think i need to go with dad dad come on.
He was saying he was saying that uh the reason why he got he got into boxing, ladies because you guys didn’t want it to box.
Well, it wasn’t me it was morley.
It was mostly his mother, you know his mother and my dad and my dad so because i i i tried to put the gloves on him when he was real young and you know he really didn’t want nothing to do with it.
And i remember talking to my dad about that.
I was like yeah.
He didn’t take to it too.
Well so my dad was like well, don’t push him, let’s, let’s see if he, if he, if he’ll do it, you know when it when it’s time when it’s time to because yeah i think he was about probably about like one or two years old.
He was walking and i put the gloves on and i should try to get him to.
You know throw punches and he just didn’t want nothing to do with it at that time he was like man, so i told my dad that so we just i just took a step back to see if he would fall into it, but then, when i talked To his mother about it, i was like yeah you’re about six seven years old now and i was like well, let’s try it again, she’s like no.
I don’t want him boxing.
I don’t want to get his head beaten and walk around here like muhammad ali.
So i just left, we just left him alone and i know anything about it at the time.
So i mean my grandmother knew before i was.
I knew and i got the blame because everybody was saying: oh yeah, you did it, you did it.
I knew i knew it was you.
I was like well wait a minute.
I didn’t even know he was [ __ ] fighting, i didn’t know anything until um uh.
Until my dad, they told me he was fighting right right, junior um, your favorite memory of your grandfather, man in the ring, did you did you ever get to see him compete? Did you ever get to go to the matches nah? I was when i was born.
I was retired, i was born in 1990, oh wow, yeah, youngin man.
I keep forgetting i’m an old man, man, that’s my friend, i’ve seen him on the clips and stuff like that.
My favorite fighter is uh.
I like him on time and how’s my favorite fight with him yo tommy, that that fight is wicked man that that’s a great fight, man, him and tommy hearns for sure for sure it’s gon na be one of my favorites too.
It’S got ta be one of my favorites, so football you get into boxing.
You know the transition.
The transitions come pretty well, you know you’re supporting what a two two in one record right now: uh you’re about to fight may 15th.
You don’t know who you’re fighting you got ta.
Let us know uh when, when, when you get uh find out who your opponent is man and definitely you’re gon na have to send us a link to watch.
It definitely want to see that um, you are you’re.
Calm, cool and ready for it, like you, ready, doesn’t matter who it is.
Oh yeah, i’m already falling [ Laughter, ] yeah.
I love it.
I love the confidence man.
I love the confidence you know.
I see, i see a lot of your grandfather in you man.
We were just we’re talking we’re talking about it.
We see a lot.
We see a lot of them.
Look man that that stare like that yeah so, but he doesn’t was you know, all all these fighters right all these fighters.
I was telling my son, i said all these fighters have a different look about when they come in and i was trying to tell him.
I said you got to look mean yeah.
Look at me.
He comes in with this blank look like like mike tyson.
You know what i’m saying so i had to think about it.
I said: okay, what what does mike tyson look like when he comes in in the ring? He looks like a shot.
No expression eyes are blank, you know just like a shark, you know what i’m saying so and i’ll say: okay.
Well, what did my dad look? Like my dad looks like a a monster very intimidating.
You know what i’m saying so same thing with her.
You know he’s like a monster very, very intimidating.
Look, you know what i’m saying so and i was like wow and then i look at oscar de la hoya when he comes in the ring, and you know he he doesn’t look uh.
All that intimidating.
You know he’s, but he looks more of like a shock.
You know the eyes are blank.
No, no, no expression on his face man same thing with you know now, looking at sugary linen is different.
You know he comes in he’s like uh he’s like like, like a piranha, you know, you know yeah, just you just don’t know what what what to expect with them right right.
So every fighter have different different, intimidating expressions.
Right did um.
Did you find that uh football is helped uh uh in any way, with your boxing uh as far as being hit? That’S about the only thing that comparison for real? Well, it’s like it’s like you said mike that he’s more athletic yeah yeah, definitely definitely more athletic.
That’S for sure uh do you find? Do you find uh working on your stamina is a big difference between football and and boxing yeah.
It’S two different yeah.
That’S two different things right.
What do you do to work on your stamina? Just lots of running and and [ Music ] uh uh early, it’s smart for that! It’S just practicing! You know you know you could do all the running in the dad.
I want to ask you: what’s up, what’s your favorite, what was your favorite memory of him when he first put on the gloves and got in the ring it had to be his first fight, his first fight his pro debut.
He was ready.
He was lean.
He was relaxed uh.
He was working on a lot of things that he was working on in the gym it showed in the ring uh.
That was to me.
That was one of his best performance.
You know you still see that he needed work, but he was.
He was, he was developing and uh.
That’S what i hope to see uh on may 14th.
I want to see the continuation of that and um.
You know just like you know.
One thing about earl springs: fight with um with ubless earl yeah er kept that jab going.
That jab worked wonders i mean that’s.
I can’t stress that enough, and i always tell my son that you know even when he’s bossing in his first um pro debut, he was, you know he was.
He was hitting the guy with the jab all the time and he looked like he was getting a little frustrated because he wanted to get in to knock him out and uh.
He stopped throwing the jab and then i i told him, i’m yelling to him outside the ring jab he started jabbing again and the jab opened up everything.
You know it’s just like it’s like playing.
It’S like what is it um? It’S like uh football.
You know you run the ball, you got to run the ball in order to pass it.
You know, so that’s what the job is.
The job opens up everything and then and and sure enough.
He found it open and you ended up.
He actually ended up getting the knockout with the jab, all right so yeah and in doubt, when in doubt get jab.
You know you jab out.
That’S one thing: uh my dad had put on his um.
I think he was on the wall of this training of his training when in doubt jab out the jab.
Always you know the job would set you free.
Definitely, definitely what’s up junior, what’s your money maker, what’s uh, what’s your favorite punch man? Would you like to what do you like to end it with my hook? Is my favorite punch? That’S the most.
That’S my strongest point: yeah man, nice, nice, deadly heart.
Right now i was just saying: wait.
I love the hooks, i think any fighter they they really.
You know especially knockout artisans, they love the hooks.
I mean you can get.
You can get caught up with just throwing hooks, but that ain’t that it that ain’t that ain’t, the winner, wow beautiful punch.
Definitely let’s go so we got this fight coming out.
May 14th um? What’S what’s what do you hate most about camp man? What’S what’s the worst thing you hate doing in camp? I think we lost him here for zach.
Oh did we lose the sound? I was wondering: what’s what’s: what’s the worst camp yeah, i can hear you now you get a little crackling.
Oh hello, yep yep.
Can you hear us? Can you hear us hello, hello? Oh, can you still hear me james yeah, okay, yeah man? I was asking him.
What’S what’s the worst part about camp? What was the worst thing that you, you saw him uh hate about camp, the worst thing about king yeah yeah? What’S what is he dread doing? Uh, i don’t know i would, i would say um.
I never seen them dread.
Any anything to oh, i got one.
The medicine ball, [, Laughter, ], the medicine ball everybody’s got one eh, everybody yeah.
I think it was the.
It was the medicine ball, because i remember telling them i said: hey you’ve been doing the medicine ball.
Just put your feet six inches in the air and have somebody drop the ball on your stomach.
He was like yeah, i said.
Well, let’s do that now he was like, oh, oh god, yeah! Yes, oh you’ve been doing it all right and he never would.
I never seen him go back to it.
He never talks about it.
So i know i told him it gets easier once you get used to it.
You know you know, but it’s good.
It gets you ready for those uh, those those are body punches.
Definitely you honestly uh before you got here, man we were talking about his football.
I had no idea man that he took football, that serious and uh you know took it all the way to university with him.
That’S awesome, yeah, that’s awesome! My dad was very disappointed when he turned to boxing.
He didn’t like that at all.
He was like wow why’d.
You do that.
He was on your way because he didn’t want another boxer in the family.
He wanted something else.
You know he wanted basketball football baseball.
You know so yeah honestly, because you guys you guys are that multi-generational, you know athletes and boxers, and you know i guess it was just your dad wanted to see something else for once right.
He was very excited when james was was was playing football.
I mean the james had a scholarship out there in massachusetts, right and uh dean college.
I think it was dean and my dad went to go visit him.
You know and watch him play football, and he was my dad was so excited about that i mean he was loving the fact that he was at the school uh that mean that that meant to him that any time that he was he was in in in The states he can go see my son practice playing football and it just it just really really was.
He was really loving that that fact you know yeah and then then your son tells me that uh the reason why you got ta start so late is because he wasn’t allowed to box, but yeah he was yeah, he wasn’t, he was yeah.
He wasn’t especially with his mom’s his mom’s, just like nope you’re playing flag football, nope, you’re gon na.
Do this, of course, my dad loved her for that you’re right.
When i told him, i told him that it was mostly her.
He was like good good good.
I’M glad i’m glad yeah, it was cool.
I i was whatever would make made him happy whatever he wanted to do, uh i would.
I was going to be there to support him.
Of course, man, of course, and honestly, are you going to be in the corner with him uh in may yeah, i’m i’m not i’m trying not to, but if he wants me there i’ll be there.
Oh he doesn’t.
He did say he does hear your voice.
You know over everybody else, so yeah and that’s that’s i like that and then i think it helps them.
You know, because every every you know what every fighter they got ta have something like my dad was my mother.
My mother had to be there.
She had to be front row right if she wasn’t there being the problem same thing with ray lennon ray lyndon had to have his his family, his whole family.
You know everybody has something that they grab hold of.
When it’s time to have that fight and and i’ve seen that me being there was uh was – was one of my sons, one of my son’s thing, i thought i was like well because when my father passed, i wasn’t at that fight right and i was like, And i watched it because i had um.
I think it was my son, i think my other son he was, he was uh.
He had it on on online facebook live, so i was watching it at the same.
You know when it was going on and i was like he left it.
He abandoned the jab and i was like no no, no bring me.
I was telling him to bring the jab.
I was like damn i needed to be there because he would have it.
Would have been a different fight because he would settle down.
He just was too amped up, you know.
Sometimes he gets amped up and it’s just the nerves.
You know once you settle down a little bit you you start to see things to flow, a lot smoother right right, um we have uh, we have sheila stafford watching hello sheila.
She says it’s great to have your dad in your corner, love, loyalty and trust.
Yeah, hell yeah definitely couldn’t answer anything better than that man um.
What was yours, what was your? What was your have to? What did you have to have when you were fighting um? I didn’t have no support so um, i just it was just me.
I i wanted support, but i didn’t have any support.
You know when i was when i first came to atlanta and i fought in the georgia state games uh my mom’s in them and my son.
They were all there and it was great to have him there.
It was great to have family there.
I think it was just it would have just been for me just family somebody.
I don’t care somebody that i could see and be like okay, so i had to turn all that into my teammates, so it was the holyfield team and all the fighters on the team that i was close to them.
You know like rasheed, wells and and lawrence chapman and uh um freddie, fred taliba, and i was i was real close with those guys.
So those guys was, i needed to see those guys and once i seen them guys i was like okay.
I was good, so i usually take to my corner my corner with my teammates and then i’m i’m fine right right, but i want it, but i really want somebody a family member.
There, though you know yeah, i try to find some other way.
No, no! No he’s no he’s uh don in the ring and he’s got you in the corner.
You know screaming screaming at him and definitely he’s hearing that over everybody else.
Man, because you know that that that that shrill of that voice, that he uh he definitely knows it from his childhood right.
That’S right! That’S right because he knows see that’s why that’s why i want to warm him up because because he knows he knows he might forget a little bit, but i’m going to remind him exactly.
You know he knows what i’m telling him.
What’S going to win this fight, we know that so i like that fight and then you know, and then he listens in training camp.
So that’s great.
That’S a great asset to have a lot of fighters.
Don’T have that asset, and i tell anybody that trains him he’s a good listener.
He will listen to you tell him to go left right, left right.
He gon na do left right, left right, he’s gon na he’s gon na.
So! Oh definitely, man he’s good he’s got the boxing back or sorry.
He’S got the football background right like yeah, you know those are plays man you’re listening for that call out of that play, and then you got ta run that drill right.
That’S just right! Right right! You know he’s got he’s got that instilled into him and then you know he’s just it’s a good transformation into boxing man, because i guess it’s you know it’s really going to allow you to listen to what your coaches are telling you and and what you’re being Yelled at from the corner man, because it’s the same thing as being yelled at on the sidelines.
No doubt i wonder if he’s coming back man, i i don’t know man, it might be well, it might be a little bit of a technical difficulty, we’re getting at the end of uh we’re getting at the end of my show so uh.
No, i’m asking him right now: yeah if he can pop back on just to sign off it’d, be great right right, if not we’ll, definitely bring him back right.
This is about him.
I know he knows about him, it’s about him, but yes, well, if, if we can’t have him, why not have his dad talk about him right now? No doubt you know, you know how we get down yeah.
So what do you think about that earl, spins fight man? Oh wow, wow, honestly, that jab brother, that jab that jab wins? You fights man that was uh and i was talking to him.
I was telling my son, i said.
Oh, i don’t know what dude i mean.
I mean when he fought manny pacquiao.
He wasn’t scared.
He came right out on the attack manny.
Why? Because he’s because he was smaller, you know what i’m saying: they’ve gotten there.
It was like.
I would be more scared of pacquiao than earl, oh for sure, for sure for sure you know, but um honestly, uh wow wow.
What a fight uh yo! You guys he’s got that you know broken orbital nice, another eye, injury man he’s going to be down and out for a little while, but yo.
That just goes to show you.
You know um earl had a game plan and he came out and executed it to the fullest man from the first belt to the last bell uh.
You know he was ready to fight too early and he came and he came to literally, you know, shut everybody up about his eye injury and the fact that he had that surgery and stuff, like that, and you know what that that was not an issue that Was a non-issue he wouldn’t have taken the fight unless he was 100 and then he gets in there and he executes his game plan to the t.
You know he looked.
He looked really good.
He looked well look better than he looked when he fought danny garcia.
You know, even though he was just stood there, like chavez did when he fought canelo.
You know you know uh, but you know as far as uh earl earl arrow i mean i okay in the fight and he did he got the job done and i loved it.
I i can’t wait to see him and and crawford, even though crawford ain’t gon na stand there like that, but no, no, it’s your car gon na stay there like that.
But it’s going to be that type of fighter.
I think it’s going to start off slow and then it’s going to escalate.
Honestly honestly, i’m pretty i’m i’m gon na say it here right now, i’m predicting you know in the top three of fights of the year yeah, oh yeah.
I think i think it’s gon na be in the top three, if not the fight of the year man, it’s it’s gon na, be a part of you.
That’S the only fight that everybody wants to see it was.
You know there was talk about canelo and this and canelo, and that and the child charlo brothers, but that that that just teased everybody and it died out and they’re slowly losing momentum on their uh popularity.
Yeah yeah yeah because of the fights that they’re choosing to fight you know, they’re gon na have to somebody’s gon na have to they they’re trying to do uh.
What uh triple g and canelo was that three or four yeah.
Why do you guys fight to meet us andres? What are you guys come on yeah? That’S what i’m gon na get back right, fight that guy! You know what i’m saying that that will that will bring you your your um, your popularity back yeah man, yeah man, i’d like to see boo boo, get in there for sure, definitely sure for sure.
I’D like to see that you know, instead of trying to run, get get running from every they’re running from them, so demetrius he got to move up with them.
Yeah! That’S it! That’S it! Well! You know what it’s looking marathon we’re at that time and unfortunately your son was able to jump back on technical difficulties.
It happens, we’ll get him back in the studio again: uh yo james, always a pleasure man to have you on and join me man uh.
Definitely let me know when we’re doing another athletes, tv baby yeah.
Definitely i talked to uh antonio otava junior, we’re getting him on and that’s in the next couple of weeks.
So and then we got uh.
My son and uh roberto duran junior on these guys to come on and you know, come on and get your subscriptions to athletes tv.
You know you get over.
000 views, you know, tell your followers come on yeah, you can make some money and it’s quicker than youtube.
You make money faster than youtube.
Is now money right right now money the now money we want that now: [, Music, ] for sure for sure.
Well, taco fight fans, thanks for tuning in today’s episode of knuckle up at 4, with mike gore and my friend james hagler, and our special guest today, which was his son james, hagler jr, who was in the house who enlighten us with a bit of his story Before he had his little technical difficulties, we’ll try to get him back in the studio uh after he wins his fight coming up on may 14th, which uh honestly is is fastly approaching, so hopefully he’s on his way to the gym, to uh, to get some work In man, no doubt no doubt no doubt he probably was uh shout out to all the people that dropped comments, uh shout out to sheila uh.
You know our friends from last boxing as well shout out to everybody who watched today thanks for tuning in man to this.
This week’s or today’s episode of knuckle up f4 uh same time tomorrow, guys same channel new prospect.
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