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EPISODE: Episode 63
Mike interviews Chris boyles team of boxers, including Hollie “Blonde Bomber” Towl (@boxerhollietowl), Nicola “Hurricane” Hopewell (@NicolaHopewell), Elle “Triple L” Coulson (@boxercoulson).
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Transcribed:
What up talking fight fans, thanks for tuning in to today’s episode of knuckle up a special episode here at 7 30 in the morning eastern time? For me, we are talking to chris boyle and his team ella coulson, yes, ellie, coulson and holly towel.
How are you, ladies doing this morning, i’m doing great? Thank you.
How are you i’m great? It’S been a while, since the last time i talked to both you guys and uh, you guys are still kicking ass and taking uh taking names right.
So i’m super excited to find out what you guys have been doing since the last time you’ve been on so uh chris.
Why don’t you let us know what uh, what what you’ve been doing with your uh, your team, we’ve been busy, i mean um.
I can’t remember how many fights, how many fights we had this year so far about two or three this year and when we are busy last year and also we’ve been busy just we just keep um.
You know learning adding up his rankings a little bit trying to step up a little bit as we go uh but really doing well.
Uh we’ve got some quite exciting stuff coming up.
We shouldn’t have been in america last week, but obviously promoter put it back.
So we’re looking at july 16 for the new date still went for confirmation, but that and then obviously ollie can come pointing right away.
Yeah yeah, you are you.
Did it right? Uh ollie we’ve signed a fight to fight bret, beck orca in australia on september 3rd.
So we’ll get this one out of the way and then we’ll move forward to that one which will be exciting that you yeah you look, you look pretty excited.
Are you right? You ready for this one yeah, i’m really excited.
I can’t wait.
I’M not excited for the travel, though.
No it’s a long way.
It’S gon na be a long way, so you guys are both holding belts at the moment right, yeah, yeah, you’ve got ellie who’s, wiba international middleweight champion in pbc, commonwealth, aren’t ya and pbc silver international.
Aren’T you still waiting for the bloody belt to come board she’s got three ollie’s got wbl european, no pbc european pbc, european and yeah wiba world featherweight title so yeah? Well, you guys are you guys are racking them up eh i mean i love that i love that featherweight title, because it’s like same one that serrano sisters held on that.
So it’s a good change.
I love that that looks good, definitely so.
Who’S fighting sunday, who’s who’s, getting ready to fight sunday, oh both yeah wow and the boxing for uh.
If you know, do you know, jane couch? Yes, the boxing for uh, the jane couch british challenge bell, and it’s the first ones in well for these anyway.
It’S the it’s a new belt, what’s just been formed by british irish boxing foreign, so it’s a real nice one that because obviously it means a lot for female fighters, so both boxing for that both got british opponents um one ellie’s fight navy moon, who she fought.
Last time but amy moody uh, basically dislocated a kneecap, so she had to be pulled out first, so we’ve got a rematch on that.
So we want to put that one to bed.
Early, don’t worry! We want to make sure that one gets gets, capped off and then ollie’s fighting a really good.
She was really good seasoned amateur and she had a couple pro fights daisy preston.
So that’s a good fight that could be a real nice fight to watch that, oh one, so uh plans to come to america.
America, that’s uh, that’s excellent! So that’s that’s july and then i guess again sorry july you said yeah.
So what are the plans in america? How long you want to stay there? What are you looking to do there for about a week? Yeah we’re back, i think, we’re just short of a week when we remember was originally going.
We was going for just under just under a week on it yeah coming back on the monday, so we’ll probably do a similar kind of thing again.
You know probably because if we have to rely on promoter because flights and that they’re going to book us, the ones that are most cost effective, aren’t there.
So once we get there within, you know four to five days within then we’re kind of happy, because we’ve got about we’re, not acclimatized but get used to time change.
That’S the thing right right! The time change that’s going to be difficult when you’re, when you’re, really traveling and coming over.
Here everything is that’s what i guess.
That’S one thing you really have to put into the routine of training and all that because of the different time zone and everything.
How do you guys manage that like? How does that all work? How would you do that? I think first day we’ll talk about this yesterday.
Won’T work yeah, i think first day we’ll just rest and sleep um not trying to do much, not i mean maybe go for a steady, walk somewhere, but not really a lot.
Just get us get his petrol back in his tank and then hopefully start the day.
After kind of like normal and then progress to the fight like that, and then just basically just keep in shape with it, but they’ll be on weight anyway.
So i wouldn’t imagine that being that no no problem, no problem ever making weight right.
Ladies, it’s tough because obviously you’ve got l.
a was nearly foot and she’s squeezing into middleweight, which is sometimes can be tough because she is just so tall and the ollie can jump about what she was.
Ollie was actually boxing amateur at 65 kilos when she first started.
Oh 54.
55! So it’s madness! We normally go away, but we’ve gone down.
So it’s kind of like strange.
You never really know what all is going to weigh if i’m honest, [, Laughter, ], so you’ve been fighting quite often this year, uh, which uh, which has been your favorite fight uh this year, nadia, probably which one i’ll tell you good morning.
Oh yeah.
That was really good.
I really enjoyed that.
It was a tough one.
I really enjoyed it because it pushed me and it made me want to work harder and be a better worker.
It was a real good learning fight that, because before for that european type of thought, nadia flalia, who were 2-0 as a pro italian champion as a amateur you a really good pedigree in that she and she was tall.
She was about five foot, nine, ten weren’t sure for a february.
I don’t know she fitted into that, but she made yeah.
She was really ripped, but that was a really good fight that you know, because judging timing was difficult for the first, maybe one or two rounds, because she was so rot so long.
But once we got rid of the timings aspect, it was kind of a lot easier, but still a good, tough fight.
She still landed good shots all the way through that fight.
It was close.
I mean we, i think every round was close, but one unanimous, but i thought every round was close.
So a good learning picture.
Your your record now is what seven and all seven and oh yeah excellent and you’re and you’re sitting at six and one.
I believe right, ellie, yeah, six and one one draw versus esther kanika and not draw a loss uh.
We thought we’d drew it, but we’re happy with that anyway, but and she’s been in everybody anyway.
O’Neill’S third fight that and she’s been in with my she’s, been in with everybody yeah, absolutely everybody and you can’t really buy that ringcraft.
Can you what they’ve got? No, no, you can’t what’s what’s what’s your what’s your favorite fight ellie this year, gifted probably, i think, before uh gifty and ukra.
Obviously, she’s bought christina ramer she’s been winning with absolutely everybody.
You know for two world titles wwe, my big wbr can’t remember, but she’s bought for two world titles, not one of them, but she’s she’s done well in it and she went massive at middleweight.
You know like a real big set, strong girl and she would come to.
She came to win didn’t even that way, and you could tell she were here to win like, but we just ellie’s used the range beautiful boxed over 10 rounds, which was difficult.
We’Ve done it and basically never lost around.
Did we and never? She never really landed a punch on her.
She landed a couple on shoulders.
Didn’T she and ellie says they felt like they were bloody bone, crushing shots because they were that the box, but a perfect game plan just jab and move it’s not a lovely performance, but it was just good to get the 10 rounds.
He won it.
You know.
I mean for the first time, which is a big tick box in it.
So that’s yeah, that’s a big box to take off right there were you ready to go the 10 rounds yeah.
I think so.
That’S good! That’S good! So, what’s up, what’s the plan for the end of the year like what what do you? What do you want to finish out the year so, where we are here, we’ve got i’d say: we’ve got, we’ve got this one coming up 26th of june, then we’ve got um about 10 week gap before olly fights, uh brett walker in queensland, australia for wiba featherweight, Title so we’ve got that and then we’ve then they’re out again on december 11th, uh locally um, so yeah we’ve got a rematch clause on the australian one.
So i don’t know when they want the rematch, but we’ll offer them for december if they want to come.
If, if we win or lose there’s a rematch, it’s a good fight, so we’ll offer that won’t.
We yeah bring it back and then see what happens but beck.
Orca is a good fighter.
Yeah, so just go out there and be ruthless.
She’S got five kills.
So i believe i know she’s got those heavy hands.
Man, that’s the uh.
The chris boyle way right.
Well, i don’t know my way is just to use my ways to use switching right to get power shots off.
So i think we work a lot on switching.
Don’T wait to try and get that lead and strong the strong one at the front and landed the you know the detonators off the lead, and so i think, we’ll just be doing the same kind of thing, but she would like it as an amit.
If i’m honest, she used to ko amateurs yeah, it’s just slim, it’s unusual, because not many amateurs knock them out exactly big process of stopping most people, so she was really strong and just carried on yeah yeah holly.
What do you uh? What what do you find? The biggest differences between the paid ranks and the amateurs since you’ve now got seven fights into your pro career um.
I think more more of the training’s different, like it’s more like set, set things to do instead of amateurs you’re all doing it together and you’ve got more time, like one-on-one, with chris of working on different things and specific things to be able to do yeah.
How about how about you ellie same question? What did you find different between pro and um yeah, like a more like a more steady pace? You know working out because you’ve got longer duration of fight and you know – and your opponents are different – i think that’s biggest transition for you into it.
Um and i think sometimes i made a good point.
You train every day, sometimes train twice a day.
Uh, your training can be mundane at times, because sometimes i can say to ollie right when i work on this shot.
Only this today and sometimes i can see we both get a bit frustrated.
Don’T worry, sometimes it doesn’t pull off and you have to keep working at it.
Working at it, you’re not meaning, then, and it happens and you’re really up.
There not mean we’ve done it inspiring where we’ve worked on a specific shot in training when nicola was there.
Nicole well and uh, we worked on a specific thing in in training and she was sparring nick uh.
She caught with it.
With this exact same shot, we worked on, i know they were in the ring and ollie actually said.
I would call it.
She says: oh, that worked lovely chris nichola right angry because obviously it caught a clean, but it was a real good shot to be fair.
It was one of those i was quite impressed.
Yeah we set it up, nice, don’t we so i think moments like that.
Make the repetition more yeah, that’s great! That’S great! Chris! What have you been up to man? You you’ve got some things on the go too.
Don’T you with uh new new channel.
You said you started new channel.
Oh you mean power, pay-per-view yeah yeah! What’S up! What’S that, what’s that all about yeah we’re promoting it uh, basically, the guy who runs it is real good guy actually lives locally to me.
He only lives about 10 minutes down the road and he started a new channel.
What’S it’s? Basically, if you look at it, you go on the website.
It’S a lot like sky sports.
It does.
The action replay gives you the punch.
Stats in between rounds.
Do not mean it.
It’S it’s actually replays every round, but it gives all the like say.
The figures from each fighter gives the red corner blue corner.
You know all the details, look like watching a sky perform or a match room type show so just trying to promote that really for that for them, because it’s a great platform, i think it’s going to be progressive and i think the guy’s really really clever what He does so shout out to power pay-per-view because the platform to be in the platform to watch, i think, excellent.
That’S awesome! Congratulations.
You started a lot of things in your career and this, i guess, is another venture and it’s yeah.
Hopefully it’s uh.
It’S very successful and uh yeah.
I can’t wait to see more of it.
So what’s uh what what’s uh? How long did you guys start training for this weekend like uh? What did you guys start your actual camp for this fight coming up? Why want [ Music ]? I think we had one or two days off and then we went straight back into camp eating health.
There doing all the good bits eating all the buckets [ Laughter.
] are you? Are you guys working at all? Do you guys have jobs and stuff? Are you training in between jobs or you’re? Just ollie’s got a job.
Ollie works part-time uh at b m, which is like a like a retail store.
So she does that she had a few jobs actually worked out.
Um.
You know she fell asleep in one as well.
Actually [ Laughter, ], [, Music, ] he’d get um yeah, don’t make sure that being don’t say this um, but no she does that uh ellie is an apprentice down here.
She has been for two years.
Ollie did a year as well black apprentice, coach, so she’s a joint day, all day la uh to nine o’clock at night, basically, um and obviously i’ve got my valet in uh detailing business and also we’re all busy we’re all really busy yeah.
You guys.
You guys got a lot on your plate since the last time we talked you know it’s it’s honestly, it’s great! It’S good to see that you guys are all progressing in your career and good things are happening for you ellie.
What do you enjoy about coaching? Why? Why the why the move to uh wan na train? What’S what’s the love and passion, tell me about it? What’D you like to do what’s your favorite bit, i think i think what it were is um struggled to find someone for la initially to do.
You know like a side job or something she really we’re passionate about, but it’s passionate about boxing.
She loves talking boxing she’s, quite clever and all she knows a lot of the old fighters and i can ask if he definitely knows him.
You know what i mean: [ __ ].
I don’t she’s, not blagging me.
She definitely watches the the youtube channels, don’t yeah.
So i think it’s just passion for the sport and then about a month ago.
Did you first they did the first amateur uh qualification.
You know, like coaching badge, social process on that as well, so i think you just look give him back to the gym.
What’S give you in it this gym’s, given, obviously these two from the start, they’ve never been anywhere else.
They’Ve been rightfully amateur system to the pros, and i think it’s lovely to see that the amateurs can see these two.
I think they want to be them so for ellie and ollie to both be able to coach it’s a big achievement.
It’S good! You know what i mean, what they’re all better than them to tell them.
What’S what it’s like, you know, i mean they’re, only learning from me and then they’re going to pass it on anyway.
So it’s just a chain in it just doing a certain style and they’ve both got that certain style so to develop it from a young age from five right holly.
How? How do you like holding down these jobs and then training? Is it hard? Is it hard to do it or be honest some days like say like you, you left the weekend off and then you’re there on monday, wig and gym you get a bit tired and you’re, just like i can’t be asked, but then, like you have to go So you do it anyway, she likes it.
I do the money.
The money at the end of the month is good.
Always that’s! That’S why we do it.
That’S why we do it.
If we weren’t doing it for the money, then we wouldn’t be doing it right.
So what are the plans for next year? What do you see yourself at the end of next year? Where do you want to be guys? Well, what do you want to do? I don’t know i want to.
I want to make sure i keep having fights and hopefully win a bigger, bigger belt and then just keeps achieving goals.
I think with uh olleh.
We want to make sure she keeps that wib, because it’s opening doors for us right make sure we keep that and then see.
If we can progress a little bit further down the rankings, maybe go like wbo ibf root as well.
If we can get in that top 20 right and just see what comes from that, i think that’s the plan for for you all in it yeah but regular fights.
I just keeps i keep saying it to everybody.
Ollie’S 18, ellie’s, 19.
she’s, not ready.
You’Ve got a decade in front of him.
You know 8 29, so there’s no rush.
Let’S just keep learning and then yeah keep learning, keep winning and then to see what happens as the years pass on but enjoy it in it.
We’Ve also just got to enjoy it.
It’S true, you guys are very young and – and you know, age really isn’t a big thing in women’s boxing there’s so many women that box well into their.
You know late 30s, so you guys got you know, 20 years ahead of you of doing this wonderful sports.
20 years, you got 20 years of doing this, [ Laughter ].
That’S awesome in wheelchairs, yeah, exactly yeah yeah.
The hips won’t be so good back by then.
Definitely not no, no they’ll take minutes to get up not seconds.
I don’t know if it was.
You told me about that reality.
Uh.
Yes, it is me uh.
This is good called celebrity making of a champion uh we’re putting together men and women uh.
You guys filled up your application, which is great, expect a phone call soon for uh for an interview for that process and uh yeah.
It’S a tournament million dollars to the winner and uh top 15 world ranking.
So good luck, uh, don’t worry the interview.
Questions won’t be too tough uh when you get them, don’t be nervous i’ll, be on the panel of questions that you’ll be asked, it’ll be a great thing uh and honestly, it’s racking up to have really good competition involved.
So, honestly, it’s uh.
It’S a new event.
It’S a new event: uh everybody’s really stoked about it.
We’Re looking uh we’re looking to start filming the pilot really soon uh.
It’S going to be picked up by uh major networks, uh they’re kind of in talks right now to find out what network is going to be picking it up.
The main event will be held at the mgm grand, so it’s uh.
It’S gearing up to be a really good one.
Yeah we’re looking to do we’re looking to do multiple seasons.
Uh, you know we just we just uh had the press release back at the beginning of april and uh things are really moving forward.
It’S uh! It’S an excellent uh problem, so hopefully, hopefully you uh, you make the cut and you’re in there and uh.
Honestly, i can’t wait to see it.
It’D be a great great event for you.
It’Ll really put you out there in the world.
That’S what it’s meant to do, it’s really to take.
You know boxers who work their ass off.
Like you guys do you know uh in the gym twice a day, seven days a week, working jobs back and forth, and it’s really to give exposure to to young talent like yourselves and get them out there and and help them get that platform help them become That celebrity champion, you know, that’s what it’s really for to become the celebrity part of the champion and and to you know, and to compensate you heavily for it.
So i’m i’m excited for it.
I can’t it’s so good that when you look at it such a it’s like the old, the old contender here, isn’t it it’s exactly like that um, but it’s going to follow more in-depth.
The background stories uh background stories really sell it.
They want.
They want to see the struggle, and you know the trials and tribulations that people have been through and uh.
You know they want.
They want their audience to really feel the each character that’s going to be on there.
Each talent that’s going to be there.
They want to follow them, they want to know their story.
They want to see how they, you know, succeeded through all these crazy obstacles in their life, from what they’ve had to go through, so that you know you can really connect with the people and, unlike the contender, it’s it’s really going to take care of these people.
Even though you don’t you, don’t you don’t win the show, you still have the availability to be signed to a major promotional company, so there’s a win-win, no matter what so good dark and we’re really excited about that.
We always get picked here.
It’S massive and i told you it’s brilliant when, when i was recruiting and looking for people, i i couldn’t think of anybody.
You know i i couldn’t think of anybody really except uh.
You know you guys and uh.
Definitely, i think, i think i think you are what what the show will need uh.
You know that that that grit, that raw that knockout power and uh honestly, i i like watching you fight, i think, you’re great and i think you’d be a good fit for the show and uh can’t wait to the interview stage.
It’S gon na be awesome interview for you all right.
Don’T worry.
Don’T worry.
I’Ve interviewed her before.
I remember how hard it was pulling answers out of her before honestly, honestly holly.
I must commend you on on your interview.
Skills now, you’re, actually, a lot more uh.
I’Ve been practicing, she’s got a dog that lives in a bedroom.
She practices my dog [ Laughter, ].
Joking, that’s what she does.
That’S awesome.
It works she’s, talking more she’s, not barking yet but she’s talking.
So we never know dear ellie, ellie, you’re, so quiet you’re.
So quiet this morning i guess you’re tired right long long, sparring day, ellie, ellie uh.
She hasn’t started interviewing with her dog, yet so she’s dirty with your dog.
Yet either okay, but she’s she’s get again she’s getting there.
Um she’s always been quiet llf.
They both were really quiet.
You know what i mean on this kind of platform.
Ollie’S got a little bit better, probably because of your job as well.
Yeah talking to customers – and you know – i mean that kind of thing like it, because everybody’s nowadays in this day and age, social media, aren’t they so they type they don’t talk.
So there’s a bit of a lost art into it.
I know it sucks because i’m so damn good at it, so it sucks because i lose it.
I lose it on people because people don’t like to talk, but how are your social medias? Ladies? Have you found that they’re getting a lot more interest now that you guys have have belts around your waist? Are you getting? Are you getting noticed more um? To be honest, i don’t i’m not the one to use social media like i use like like snapchat instagram, but i don’t really post as much which i should do, but it is getting.
It is getting a bit bigger, but i am also learning how to use it better and make my platform bigger.
That’S awesome.
How are you really? I think the thing is with um.
I just get shy social media platforms, they’re great um, but they do give everybody a voice and sometimes i think, no matter what you do.
People are going to criticize you and it can be enough for like 18 19 years it can be quite brutal.
You know instagram’s brilliant twitter’s.
No, i don’t think i think twitter can be really really volatile.
You know people are bitter on it and it should be called better at times because it just it should be called bitter.
I love them doing it, because these are young girls.
They don’t do anything wrong.
They don’t mouth off on social media.
They don’t call people out to get in the ring they box to do the business they’re.
So humble they’re, lovely they’re, lovely human beings, but they come put some on there and there’s some little spark a criticism about and i feel like wow, it’s just so they’ve done nothing to deserve that.
You know, i think i told them both stay away from it.
Put your little posts on i’ll put a post on whatever they’re doing.
Don’T you have to respond to it? You know i mean you can’t talk to what you choose to reply to into it.
So i think that’s where we are with it: ellie you’re, quite good.
On your instagram and your facebook aren’t yeah, none of them really use twitter they’ve.
I use it for them, but they’re not that bothered about your twitter.
I’Ve never used it.
So i don’t know.
Twit twitter is very.
You got to be like in the moment.
It’S got to be fast, it’s got to be, you know things that are current or trending uh.
It’S all about tagging, the people correctly and finding that way to tag them correctly.
I find that twitter is really good if you want to uh.
If you want to have live interaction during a big fight night like if you want to see you know, you say fury if you’re wilder, it would be blowing up with people just talking about that situation going on, which is great, really yeah.
I love stuff, brilliant and that’s a bit like when you get um over here on bt, sport and uh.
If you watch it on the app you’ve got like a comment, section yeah and it’s like a live feed, and you can see that goes mad, that you can all comments.
It’S like commentating between on a fight, that’s great! I love that it’s just like when you put a post – and somebody just says something bad about, but not the life is good.
I do like the live feed yeah, it’s just good yeah.
The live feeds are good.
I i enjoy it.
But honestly, my go to my go to use instagram literally there’s so many boxers out there today using instagram to profile themselves and put themselves out there.
I think it’s a great platform to really use and showcase your you know your talent.
What you’ve been doing.
I i find that one in the boxing world has become really big and uh.
Honestly, i don’t even know how to really use it yet.
So i got i got to learn myself.
I got ta, learn myself but yeah.
It’S a it’s a good platform, but the twitter thing.
I know what you mean.
It can get really uh volatile at times it can yeah so how’s um has has.
Do you find that your membership has started to go up in your gym now that the girls are uh wearing belts? You got a lot more coming in, i suppose um it’s been better for females.
We’Ve always had loads of females out at this gym.
It’S um.
I don’t wear you’ve just been sparring one this morning, like yeah ollie’s, been sparring with a girl coming through just was gon na have a first battle in september, just helping her.
You know i mean so there’s always been big big female bracket in here, but i suppose it’s always been full anyway.
Really we’ve never had to like subscribe for members row.
It’S always been just busy, so we’ll just keep going as it is.
I don’t think you could fit many more people in it on some days.
It’S just so rammed.
You know what i mean wow right so sunday’s some days it gets super random and it’s just yeah, while the wall and any any any up-and-comers that we should be knowing about uh a few um what’s coming through.
I’Ve got a couple of good um.
I’Ve got some good amateur lads coming through well, kids turn pro um.
The girls are not that age.
Yet girls are about quite young from about 11 to about 14 15.
, so yeah 16 feel good people are maddie and that um so there’s a bit of a gap for that yeah.
But it doesn’t seem too municipal, since you were doing that, though not mean so it’ll soon come round.
It’Ll soon come around.
That’S great! That’S great! Well, i don’t want to keep you guys too much longer.
I know it is morning time you’re in the gym.
I got work that i got to do today too, but chris hey there, you go.
Yes, let me ask you a question.
Definitely let me let me put you on spot all right, so aj versus you, sick, too, who wins and how usic, how yeah, but by breaking him down the way he did before.
I don’t think i think exactly.
I think it’s gon na be a real.
I think it’s going to be a breakdown fight.
I think joshua, just just doesn’t have the ability to beat him.
I think usa usyk once he gets on that inside he’s.
Just very you know, he’s he’s he’s a champion.
He’S he’s a he’s, an undisputed champion in the cruiserweight, and you know what he hits he destroys.
He knows how to break down anthony joshua’s game uh.
I know joshua has gone to new trainers, so that could be a big factor right to be able to.
You know to change your trainer that late in the game sometimes is very detrimental to the to you know to the success.
So honestly, i’m calling for usyk i’d like to see it i’d like to see it happen, because i want i want to see.
I want to see a undisputed champion in that weight class we haven’t, we haven’t, had an undisputed heavyweight champion since 2004, none in the four belt, none in the four belt era.
Our last one was lennox lewis.
You know what we i think the heavyweight division needs.
It and i think, with usyk, winning and keeping those belts, i think we will see it what about what about fiora usic? If you sit wins, that’s close there yeah! That’S that’s, that’s a close one, that’s a close one, but then then i would i’d have to i’d have to the gypsy king man.
I love him.
I love the way he fights.
I i just love his his length, his his being able to evade his elusiveness.
His cockiness, you know he just i just love watching the way he fights.
So what do you think aj usic too? You know what i think sami joanna said it from start anyway, before the first fight you’ll see we’ll beat joshua because he’s just got too many tools he’s a southpaw anyway, but he sometimes boxes like a like a like an orthodox southpaw.
If that makes sense, because he always finds his jab against orthodox, which is weird um, but i think you’ll say again, i think you said probably may even stop him.
I could see that i could see that you know um.
I i find the first one that usyk was holding back a bit.
I found that you know he was really.
He was really testing the waters and and and really seeing what he could do.
I know that he was playing those angles.
Amazingly, you know following that jab coming inside shooting off on the angle, and then just you know, staying on that inside joshua had nothing for it.
No at least you know, because all i’ve heard since that fight was oh joshua needs to do this joshua.
But you know what makes me laugh about that think of it from you six point four then.
So if joshua does exactly what people are telling him to do, then like go forward and try and unload bombs, it’s going to you’re going to walk onto you, six shots as well.
Do not mean it’s a bit like hold on a minute, so you want him to go and go now.
But u6 is a car puncher and he can combination punch.
It’S a southpaw.
I mean it’s just sometimes it’s a bit madness and it’s a simple answer in it that i’ll just go in and bomb like it’s as easy, as that do not think he tried that right, right and and and you got to think, like usyk undisputed cruiserweight.
You know he ran out of people to fight.
He moved up for competition.
The guy has has a textbook of moves that, just you know, he’s probably forgotten some stuff than some people know.
You know it’s it’s crazy and, and you can’t forget that this guy is a highly decorated fighter and, and you can’t take him lightly and i think joshua just you know what over the last few years and with corona and everything.
I just think that he got rusty in the ring.
I don’t think he had enough enough time between fights and you know as as a trainer yourself um.
That’S one thing that that that a lot of people don’t understand that you do.
You do get a rust when you don’t when you don’t get in the ring, like you, can spar as much as you want, but there’s nothing compared to getting in the ring and actually fighting.
No, i don’t don’t even compare.
Does this everybody says it’s close because closest thing you’ll get yeah? Of course it is, but it’s absolutely the furthest thing about furthest furthest thing away as well, because it’s nothing like it um and i just think it’s changed his style too much.
Whenever we were tony sims uh and rob mccracken in his early days, i thought it was explosive and it just boxed simple process.
Yeah i mean it.
Doesn’T it’s try.
I think they’ve tried to change too many things, but too many different trainers in.
I don’t know mixed messages in corn are never a good thing, and i think you know sometimes, like you say it can be detrimental.
Where is your sick? It’S like poppacenco uh, most of the time in his in his training somewhere, uh genius.
You know i mean i mean, like 370 odd amateur fights, yes, ridiculous, ridiculous with amateur fights, they’re learning that isn’t it.
You know when you got that kind of ring exposure and – and you know that that many fights under your belt amateur and then into your pro career.
You know you can’t you can’t trade that experience for nothing.
It’S just.
You know the guy knows every inch of every kind of ring there is, you know, he’s been through, it he’s been in it and and that’s why he’s a champ? That’S not quite that’s! Why that’s why he is what he is brilliant to right as well.
Uh.
There’S one of them boxes that you can watch and thing you can watch around and then rewind it and watch the round again, because you’ll have missed summit.
Oh yeah, i mean because it’s so clever, you know i mean go back.
Watch it go back! Watch it again, you’ll pick three or four different things up, but what we haven’t even noticed, because it’s that that good, you know i mean it’s – that technical, the guy’s great i love watching him but like lomachenko is saying winter very great, you know very elusive angles.
Are brilliant aren’t those angles and that i mean um, we’ll put girls on the spot.
I know that’s what you’re saying on that.
Fine, i agree with you both, i think he’s going to pick him off yeah.
Yes, i can stop at your point.
I don’t know.
I think he’s overall, i think he’s gon na stop it.
It might end late around, maybe 11.
9.
11.
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I think he will pick him up in frustrating a lot good choice.
Ellie.
You know, i think so he’s gon na say later on.
Stopping so we’re all going late round stoppage anyway, we could.
Obviously you know what i’m i’m thinking the same.
I don’t think it’s going to go the distance, i’m thinking late round stoppage and i’m standing too sick, because i don’t think aj has enough in in his repertoire or in his tank to even go with him.
Obviously, i can’t see it happening well.
Ladies.
Good luck.
This weekend, i can’t wait to see uh see what the outcome is i’ll, be rooting for you.
All the fans here will be rooting for you, chris always a pleasure.
Always a great talk.
I’Ll definitely have to get you on in less time this time because uh yeah, you know it was far too long to get you back on here and talk boxy man.
It’S always a pleasure uh.
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