Jack Chase | The Scoop with Bola Ray | Talkin Fight
Jack Chase was an African-American middleweight, who boxed in the 1930s and 40s. He was born in Texas and fought mainly on the west coast of the United States. He boxed under the name ‘Young Joe Lewis’ for the first part of his career, before changing to Jack Chase in 1942.
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Hello boxing fight fans around the world, thanks for joining us again on talk and fight for another episode of the scoop featuring the champ bola ray, who has himself been going around the world, telling us great stories from great fighters and great fights and uh great rivalries.
Uh, but it’s a new week and i’m sure you’ve got a new story for us from another part of the world unless i’m completely mistaken.
What do you got for us? Where do you go first, big guy, in essence, um with the proceedings moving forward with the trials for the officers in the george floyd murder case, i am brought to wonder exactly how far society actually progressed since at least here in the west, since the 1930s and 1940S, for no reason other than a man, the color of the man’s skin, their intelligence, their moral compass, their worthiness of different titles, athletically and corporate was not just judged but limited.
Now volumes of books have been written about the root cause of systemic systemic racism, but what is much more troubling for me is the fact that society hasn’t moved that far from a period when the times mentality was so lacks and backwards.
Last week i dedicated all the episodes to the unsung heroes.
If you will, the specific group called the black murderers row, which were absolute greats that were permitted, that if they were permitted to compete for world titles, they all arguably would have changed the course of history.
Not just by winning several titles but of upsetting the champions of the day.
Now, in my ongoing series, we talked today about another man from this particular fraternity, who went up from the ranks of middleweight and finished off his career at light heavyweight and still dominated a fighter whose actual name was in question.
But his final residence was known accurately, which actually speaks volumes about how underrated history has portrayed him.
My name is bola raymond oluwali, and this is the scoop born january 27.
1914 in sherman, texas, was none other than jack chase.
There wasn’t much information about his early life or how he started boxing other than he had an exceptional amateur career, and he fought totally out of colorado.
Now, uh by his teen years, he had moved out of texas to a tough mining town called wallaceburg colorado where he began his boxing career and that’s quite the record.
There was rumors that he may have as many as 40, more fights professionally than the record books.
Actually depict all the same january.
30Th 1936 was reportedly jack’s.
First professional fight now um recently released from prison.
He goes on to beat billy pryor in an effort and for his efforts.
The crowd boos him welcome to the big leagues boy, man and that’s his first fight joe, goes on to continue fighting um the whole time under the name of young joe uh, joe lewis, who was and has a great deal of accolades for his efforts.
In the way of state championships such as in his fifth fight, he wins the rocky mountain, regional, middleweight, title: okay, this fight is listed as being on april 1st 1936, but for whatever reason, yeah there’s documentation found pretty much anywhere corroborating.
That’S that date.
But okay, things are slightly less somewhat lacks in those days.
So what can you say shortly after that on june 26th same year, his eighth fight and wins the usa colorado state middleweight title against mike montoya, all right, eight fights two titles back in these days.
These things were a little different, but jack goes on to fight for the usa, colorado state welterweight championship in a unif unification scenario, where his usa, colorado, middleweight strap, was also up.
At the same time now today, a fighter can be a multiple weight class champion, but in defending it they must defend one weight class.
At a time, things were different back then he goes on to fight and win against joe jeremy leo august 20th, 1936, and now he has two belts.
Well now, with his two belts, he is on his resume.
He opens the door for a megaphone.
Now this mega fight, in which two champions from two different states, which both have two titles, are going to fight each other for all four titles or, more importantly, they’re, going to fight for the interstate uh interstate mountain championship fight.
This fight is up against utah’s, jackie burke, who also has the utah state, middleweight and welterweight title now chase goes on to win a one-sided beat.
That goes the distance for 12 rounds, and but what i find incredibly noteworthy is that this was jack’s 15th fight without a loss and he’s making history like this.
Okay, now and of course, the back box wreck, uh jack lost his first fight on his 24th fight, but yet other sources have fit as jack’s 66th fight um.
At this point, when he faces off against eddie pierce of south africa, who was the south african middle and light heavyweight champion now, pierce apparently won eight of ten rounds, but also claims that yeah jack was a good puncher by 1937.
Jack had proven that he wasn’t just a great puncher, but also an incredible boxer and [ Music ], along with that came notoriety through ringside magazine, which had him ranked in the top 10 in the country.
Unfortunately, for jack he found himself in a situation which rendered him a long time guest at the colorado state gray bar motel.
Now this is insight into how poorly black fighters were being treated or rewarded compensated for their gift back in the day jack.
At this point had multiple titles within the us, but he felt it necessary to commit a crime like burglary, with force to make ends meet.
Like that’s ludicrous today.
Look at today at anyone any fighter, that’s ranked in the top 10 of their of their uh.
What’S it called division in the united states and see exactly how much money they’re making per purse they would be making more than enough to sustain themselves, and you wouldn’t have to resort to petty stupidity like this.
This was a disappointing.
Jack was sentenced to six to eight years, but he was end up being released early on good behavior may of 1941.
Now upon release the very next month.
Jack has a fight.
Another fight, um he’s back in the ring, he’s doing what he does and again.
Lady luck was out getting a pedicure um tonight because, even though jack won his fight against his opponent, roy roy jack uh gillespie, who was having his professional debut against jack chase by this point, he was stopped in the first minute of the sixth round and um Yeah he died three days later in the hospital.
The blood should be seen on the hands of the athletic commissioner for permitting such a fight.
In my most humblest opinion, this wasn’t jack.
He had an opponent across the ring from him.
He had to do what he had to do to win.
The fight jack then has a fight again with his old foe, billy pryor, in which he wins for the third time and then moves to california and drops his whole young, joe lewis, for good just jack from here on in all right now, during the 40s, the Professional game in the west coast boasted some of the best fighters in the united states, if not in the world um, and this new arrival soon finally found himself trading leather, with the likes of like archie, moore eddie, booker um, like lloyd marshall, tiger wade and well Charlie burley um uh a vital who’s who of black peopleists.
The black murderers wrote to be precise, actually chase quickly established himself and won the california state.
Middleweight title by defeating eddie booker in a 15-round decision then goes on to lose it and then re-win it against.
None other than the charlie moore, archie, moores or archie moore two successful defenses against lloyd marshall were notched up to great in two title: fights only to lose before he ran into the great charlie barrel chase was stopped twice by the pittsburgh great and lost another fight To charlie, via decision charlie beat some of the top names of the game, but two guys he just couldn’t beat were the aforementioned burley and sadly neglected holman williams, who he lost from four times um yeah.
This is this set.
This is a black eye on history.
To say the least early in 1944 jack made headlines again, but this time, not because of boxing news at least not really jack shot.
Fellow fraternity, member aaron tiger wade now wade recovered and continues boxing career, and but he ended up running into chase again at which point in time chase knocked him out in the 10th round for his uh for his troubles, 1944 jack lost his middleweight strap to charlie Burley, but only to win the state light heavyweight title against watson jones.
Now then it seemed that somebody turned out the enthusiasm, switch, uh, light, switch, victories became few and far between, and yet he continued to fight.
It was surmised that chase was doing what so many other black fighters did in the day where they were doing they’re only fighting to stay afloat financially, as opposed to looking to improve their their record and fight for a world title because fighting for a world title.
Just was not a reality: jack chase died march, 23rd, 1972 at the age of 58.
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Don’T forget the notification bell out of curiosity, how many members of black murderers row were there eight there’s one more tomorrow, ah yeah and out of out of curiosity, if these guys were all fighting say the 30s 40s yeah.
Do you think it’s possible that someone who we’ve discussed earlier uh, whether chicago or new york or one of those kinds of areas, boston recognized what the potential was of these boxers uh? If, in fact, they simply were this broke and easy to obtain? If you will uh as as employees on one hand but as prize fighters on the other, and i wonder if i’m saying out loud, i wonder if in the 50s that’s why i became more of a combined effort.
If you will, between the people with power, the people with money and the people who didn’t have power and the people who didn’t have money uh, because they were good in the ring and they could make an awful lot for their employers in things such as gambling, Which must have been huge money, that’s an understatement, um in essence, what happened was the mom the mob got in there? They saw these guys they’re, desperate and they’re willing to work, but what what they will? What are they good at they’re good at punching people up? So what ends up happening? They go off, they sign them now.
Sometimes they sign them and make them superstar champions like ray robinson, um or so many white uh counterparts, but other times what what just happened, which was nothing shy of a crime.
Was these blacks end up just congregating out in california way putting on sensational bouts sensational bouts against each other high technical fights yeah not being comfortable whatsoever? They get compensated well.
Some of them got some compensation from the mob, which usually was at the end of their career and they’re washed out, but they still need money but yeah.
It’S it’s nothing, shy of sad and heartbreaking for me.
So for all of us, um wow, it’s a it’s! A story worth telling and you’ve told it well so far, and it’s not yet over.
So we look forward to tomorrow night’s episode and uh your concluding thoughts on all this.
This has been a remarkable history, lesson seriously sure good stuff awesome well, thank you very much and thank you good listenership good viewership for tuning in for another episode of the scoop for the champ bowl array and we’ll see you tomorrow, night