Oliver McCall | The Scoop with Bola Ray | Talkin Fight
EPISODE: Episode 5
Oliver McCall is an American professional boxer. A veteran of the sport for over three decades, he is best known for winning the WBC heavyweight title in 1994 by scoring an upset knockout victory over Lennox Lewis. The next year he defended the title against Larry Holmes before losing it to Frank Bruno.
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Hello, everyone welcome to another episode of the scoop featuring the champ bowl array on talk and fight.
It’S actually friday, night and uh.
We’Ve got ourselves a special guest coming on shortly.
I think he’s coming out of california, so he might be a little tied up in traffic right now, but uh yeah we’ve got a.
We got a young fighter in the of uh oliver mcauliffe, i’m not mistaken, all lined up.
So you can give us some background on this uh young man and uh.
Let’S see if he makes it through those traffic lights, yeah um.
What can i say what man they call over mccall he’s uh.
He was one of my uh.
He caught my eye early early in my boxing career um.
This is a guy who beat, in my humble opinion, two heavyweights who are in the top five heavyweights of all time.
Yet he’s not there.
He knocked out lennox lewis, actually the first person to stop rex lewis, as a professional um, a true story about, i wouldn’t call it redemption per se as much as uh.
It’S it’s more of a triumphant story.
He had some demons, he fought with demons.
He pulled himself out of the out of the cinder and he finished off his career on high note, clean and whatnot um, one of the most titanic, chins of all time.
Big puncher mike tyson’s, former um sparring partner – and this is when mike tyson was like, where he was like just destroying his sparring partners, let alone his opponents, and this guy went to war with him and never touched canvas um.
I think, on that alone, he needs to be in the discussion for uh, at least in the top 10 heavyweights of all time, even though he was only, he was only a heavy um, a champion for a short short period of time um, and i think that He could have lasted a lot longer if it wasn’t for scenarios, because i saw his fight with against frank bruno and if you can imagine this, he didn’t show up until the ninth after the ninth round.
When i say he didn’t show up, he was lackluster and what have you, but when he did show up any second frank bruno could have been stopped.
Frank bruno earned my respect as a survivor because of those last three rounds because he was in trouble and how he how he finished that fight on his feet.
I still don’t know, but that’s how oliver mccall lost his uh lost his uh wbc title.
He had coming up through the amateurs um.
He went to move back to chicago and started his boxing career amateur career, and in doing so he won the golden globes, the chicago golden globes, not once but twice and in doing so he shortly thereafter then turn turn professional um.
And if you were to see the physique on the man, you could actually see exactly why he was so successful, because, especially by today’s standards, he wasn’t only tall at a monstrous six foot, two um.
But what was noteworthy is his reach.
I’Ve said it once i’ve said it a few times: a person’s reach is supposed to be from fingertip to fingertip.
On the average person it should be your height.
He was six foot two which would put him at 74 inches and yet his reach was 82 inches and then strong on top of it um.
He had some some iconic fights in the amateurs, i’m sorry early in his career and when it ended up happening with him, he had some nail biters some losses, but for the most part it was more so that it was more so that i think that he Beat himself because when it came time for him to actually show up, he showed up he showed up in spades.
I wanted to ask him personally i’ve.
Actually i genuinely want to meet the man he’s i don’t get star struck.
I don’t care, i’m a little vain for that, but this guy i wanted to.
I wanted me um.
He he’s done a lot to say the least uh when he lost to tony tucker um.
I felt bad for him, but tony tucker’s, a bad man.
He was a fantastic, a fantastic boxer, i’ve i genuinely felt that tony tucker beat mike tyson.
I still i still stand behind that.
He won that fight against point mike tyson when uh, when they fought mike, never fought him again, but so be it now post that fight it landed him a shot against lenox lewis and in getting that fight against linux lewis.
Well, history was made.
I wanted to ask him whether or not there was any truth to him going off: okay, um him going off and having a uh a little chat, a little some advice from mike tyson and in doing so prior to letting the fight with lance lewis and whether Or not, it was the was it.
What was that? What made the difference was that what was that? A little strategy that short little right hook or well hook cross short little inside slipping right hand that caught linux sleeping and put them well from on queer street? I don’t know, i don’t know after his uh his epic defeat of lex lewis and the celebration in the ring has to be arguably the best celebration i’ve ever seen and it was uh yeah the man, the man was happy.
The man was happy but post that he then went on to fight the legend himself.
Larry holmes and granted.
Larry was 40, but he’s still larry holmes and he all boxed larry holmes.
I i wanted to find out exactly what was that like? Was there anything called jitters? I don’t even know if he was a fan of larry’s about to find out.
Well, apparently, i’m going to find out so apparently uh for all the viewers out there uh.
We do have oliver mccall in the green room waiting to enter our studio uh and when he does, i will uh gracefully bow out and leave the two heavyweights to go.
Toe-To-Toe oliver is trying to get on he’s, adjusting his cam and she’ll be with us momentarily.
So have a have yourself, a great conversation with this man i’ll be uh i’ll, be in the agreement.
Watching should be fun yeah to say the least.
It shouldn’t be fun.
He’S he’s got some stories i’ll bet, wow good day, sir, how you keeping you got to turn your volume up.
Why [, Music, ], oh well! Well, oliver adjusts his audio.
Oh he’s at least got it uh set up horizontally properly.
Do you, the car going by your house or oliver’s house, that’s uh! That’S all over his house turn on your microphone turn on your microphone man.
You can’t figure out how to do it.
Go to settings.
Go to settings icon.
Our producer has to call you yeah.
Our producer should call you, no, our president, will call you and walk you through it uh.
So he can hear us.
He can hear us.
Okay, all right go to go to that gear.
Icon and uh no looks like the old man’s have to get him off.
Let me take this over son.
Actually, you know it’s not every day when you see the older dog, i wonder if he’s still willing to actually fight uh, i do believe the fellas that mg were telling me that he was still in the game.
Um, potentially yeah.
Potentially, training uh the training for what i’m not sure, 56 years old, 56 years old, doesn’t look 50 sex, making old cats.
Like you look bad exactly exactly, i i think it’s one of habit and i never.
I never picked up that bad habit of going to the gym.
Oh man, uh yeah, i don’t know if you’ve ever seen the movie uh splash and john candy sitting on a uh.
We call it a box full of beers, basically he’s sitting there drinking a beer and swinging a squash racket.
That’S me, that’s me yeah um! I i have a dog – and i think about this, but i i could never be this lazy where i’m watching a video or i saw a commercial where a guy is taking his dog for a walk as he’s sitting on his sofa and there’s a treadmill in Front of him and the tv off to the side, the dog’s on the treadmill on a leash and he’s watching he’s watching tv.
Oh, he said you know what i give you kudos golf clap golf clap for the for the ingenuity but uh yeah.
I can’t pull myself to be that lazy, so yeah i can yeah this beer, beer belly was well invested and well earned and uh.
I mean it’s not as well-rounded as it used to be back in my younger days, but uh yeah practice makes perfect there.
You go there, you go, i wonder if the young man is coming back.
I wonder how he feels about all these uh legends, these.
These legends, uh coming out and uh.
Fighting the pillow fight league yeah yeah mike tyson, is fighting uh, abandoned holyfield, but then wants to fight linux lewis and then wants to fight tyson, fury, yeah right yeah and i’m like okay.
I can see you well, lennox says: oh i i don’t haven’t seen likes in years, but i don’t think he’s training.
I i wouldn’t know if he was, but i don’t think [ Music ] had his own little league there going on in london england for a while.
So i’m i’m pretty sure he must have been in the gym.
Uh trying to look good for all those young young, guys and gals in the gym with him, so i’m gon na guess he’s in shape.
No, i can’t see that i can’t see that i think linux is uh living comfortably living large on uh the successes that he’s made in his career once in us once in a suit, always in a suit.
Is that what you’re saying that’s exactly it yeah? It’S not like, he hasn’t earned it.
We were talking about this uh on the friday night panel earlier about uh the new heavyweights, because the the name you said came up again and uh just how these new heavyweights, this new breed of heavyweights, are really helping to spur a lot of interest in boxing Once again, so you know hats off to guys like tyson, fury and he’s a bit of a loudmouth, but he’s he’s bringing the fans back.
You know and i think he’d crush mike.
No, i don’t think so.
I don’t think he can crush anybody really um.
No, i i just think he’s he’s awkward enough, he’s big enough he’s awkward enough to actually go and i will box you um, but if you are of a certain level of ability, i don’t see him destroying you like, with the exception of deontay.
Deontay was a since he is arguably has the greatest right hand in history, and i don’t i would challenge anybody to to contest that um, but that’s all he had and i’m not saying that he was okay with everything else.
I’M saying that’s all he had.
He didn’t have he wasn’t.
He wasn’t his boxing like he wasn’t overly great.
He didn’t have a a punishing jab per say maji.
I guess he you just set it up somewhat, but um, and he was so thin so thin that all it really took was someone to maul him and he would have been.
That was the end result like tyson.
Just mauled him and stepped forward made sure that his his uh, which guy he never got into that sweet spot range where he can actually fully extend on his right hand, and that was it that was it that was all um outside of that he beat derek Chizora twice once he played him um in the southpaw stance, but he didn’t stop him.
David haye stopped derek chizora, um what’d.
You call isn’t strong enough to stop.
No, he stopped.
He stopped zoro.
He didn’t stop the distance.
Okay, i’m hearing something i’m here.
I’M hearing words.
Okay, can you hear me now there you go, i can hear you how’s the lighting.
Perfect, perfect, don’t don’t touch the thing? Okay, how are you doing champ oliver sit over in that chair? All right, i got to let me adjust.
Let me sit in another chair, ah wow.
This is awesome: okay, ah, okay, how you doing sir i’m doing fine how’s everything! You know what i’m just living the dream, i’m leaving i’m literally living the dream.
Oh, this uh the opportunity to actually do what i do being not like i’m, i’m also a fighter but being a fan wow.
This is this is beyond awesome yeah.
This is awesome man, if you’re a fighter and a fan man, you got, you got best of both worlds.
You know i mean because i’m a fighter and i’m a fan there you go there, you go.
Was you a fighter first or fan? First? I was a fighter first, i was a fan.
First, i think i was a fan of before i started fighting.
I definitely was a fan.
First, my my granddad was a was a boxer and a professional baseball player and uh.
My dad played baseball and basketball and uh he loved boxing, and he was a boxing buff and uh.
When i seen muhammad ali uh beat george foreman and uh those fights i was like interested in fighting, but i was more you know, then i start training later on, like 18 19 years old, that’s impressive! So then you got the bug from watching others.
Exactly exactly that was that’s, that’s impressive yeah i i was always a doer.
I was um.
I took up boxing late in life, i went off and knows like track and field and volleyball and all sorts of sports.
But then, when i didn’t qualify for the olympics and track one year, i said: let’s give this boxing thing: a try, yeah and then the world opened up.
This is wow.
This is a phenomenal sport.
Yes, what did you? What did you do in track? What what you doing track? I started off as a sprinter.
I was a.
I was a skinny tall, sprinter um, but everybody told me that there’s no such thing as a six foot: five sprinter wow um yeah.
This is the back of the day of uh ben johnson ben johnson.
Was it everybody wanted to be like ben and ben? Yes? Yes, i know about being right right right, right, so um then i became a discus.
Thrower and uh.
Now look who’s.
The world record holder is a six foot, five 210 pound sprinter yeah about that.
Okay, you know i threw the shot put as a track.
I i play to trek at park high school.
I also uh played basketball a year at park high school.
I was a park panther and my daughter geneva mccall, my youngest daughter uh.
She set records uh and uh.
I think she she qualified uh.
I think she almost qualified for the olympics somewhat like you did and her name is geneva.
Mccall, look her up chicago geneva.
Mccarthy and uh yeah yeah, so that track.
I love track.
Two yeah yeah, it’s! It was a great foundation for me.
Well you’re a shot putter.
I did discus.
I threw shot too but, like i do discus and uh, i found it it.
It transformed my right hand, because the ability to throw it’s the ability to throw it’s it’s the basic mechanics to how to throw a cross to throw the right hand right.
That was it.
So, where do you live at? Where am i? Where are you located right? Now i’m in toronto, canada, oh you ain’t! What up you ain’t, canada, man! I went to canada! I i love canada.
I was in edmonton, canada i spawned with mike tyson some years ago, man and oh – that was the first and only time i basically was in canada.
It was awesome, it was the biggest mall in the world in edmonton canada.
Is it still there? Obviously it’s still there the west end into the mall.
Is it still the biggest mall in the world? I think it’s still the biggest mall in the world.
I think it is i’ve never seen.
I’Ve never been to a ball that big in my life.
So i think that yes, yes yeah yeah, nobody uh everton west edmonton mall.
I still remember when the first time i went there and i said they have dolphins in a mall.
Are you kidding me a swimming pool in the mall right dad waves? I’Ve never been to a place like that in my life.
Since then i mean not like that, not like that yeah yeah and not like that.
Are you still uh? First and foremost, you brought up the fact that you sparred with mike and legend, has it you’re one of uh mike’s, toughest sparring partners, never never to touch canvas that in its own right, especially when mike was young, makes you put you in the conversation as one Of the greatest heavyweights of all time, in my humble opinion, um mike was no joke.
What was it like? Well, let me just tell you a little story.
You know because uh uh mike tyson, my dude first of all, i mean it’s so much that so many stories that i can’t wait to talk to mr tyson because it’s been a while.
I talked to him, but let me just tell you a story.
I was mike tyson’s foreign partner, and this is my first time being in the boxing pro boxing book and now historians can and just an average fan say yeah.
I want to see that book.
I think it’s back in 1987, if i’m not mistaken and in this book it got me talking about sparring with mike tyson in the book i talked about beating up mike tyson.
I beat him up more than he beat me up.
You know i’m a sparring partner.
Yeah i come in the gym and guess who i see read the book mike tyson.
I mean literally looked at me like dude, i looked.
I looked up and laughed like, i’m laughing is we boxing today? He looked at me and i knew what he was reading about and it was very funny it was very funny, so i have so many great stories on mike and i’m just elated that we’re back at this age able to perform at such an elite level.
That’S amazing, yeah, it’s a testament! It’S a testament! I can’t tell you how many people, who are i’m only five years younger than you and young man, but the thing is to hear that guys.
Our age is actually still doing what children do right.
It’S turning heads rewriting history.
That’S right! We’Re rewriting history, that’s really nothing but number! I mean it really.
It really ain’t and – and you know what i can feel the vibe even out i mean from what you’re saying now: it ain’t nothing, but a number.
It’S how you really feel about it and how you use that to to do and to improve yourself and whatever you want to improve yourself and doing basic.
Precisely precisely yeah.
You had a great series with lennox lewis yeah prior to your first fight with lennox lewis.
There’S a rumor that you went and talked with mike tyson, and he gave you some tips on what to do.
What to look for how to how to approach that the strategy of how to beat my uh lance lewis.
Is there any truth to that and b? Did it work holy? That’S so easy, because now you bring it back good memories, and this is the truth from olivia mccall praise god.
Listen! Yes, mike tyson did tell me uh some things and some pointers, but let me tell you exactly what it was because i thank you, lord, for a good memory.
It was the night before the fight, i’m in london, england don king was there.
I think it was at the press conference.
No, it was one of the press conferences not to weigh in or whatever it was the night before the fight.
If i’m not mistaken, going into the day of the fight don king gave me the phone i said, who is this uh at that time, mike tyson was in prison? You know for what he was in prison literally, and i heard mike tyson voice hello.
I said: hey mike how you doing yes mike tyson, did give me some advice, so make some advice.
You know what dick feisted mr mike tyson gave me.
I said oliver i said: what’s up cam cuz, i was so excited.
It was mike and i knew he was in jail, but i’m like hi how’s.
How is this happening? Y’All hooking this up like this, i’m in london too, and i know tyson’s in jail in the back.
I already know this so but but don king.
You know what whatever just like this i’m talking to.
You now try to say.
Yes me, i said oh mike so mike he gave him some great advice.
This was the device he said.
Oliver oliver dude link flew his fight.
Links was like you be fighting me.
You finna be champion.
I said hey mike i’m from the beach here and, and i hung up the phone i was.
I was elated to talk with mike.
I was so excited because we talked just that brief moment.
If i’m not mistaken, that’s basically what was said.
Uh don king, like i said, gave me the phone uh and i’m like who is this because i’m like donald, you know because we’re at some big gathering or something and i answered the phone it was tyson.
I say mike.
I’M excited, of course, because you know i’m i’m right what i know tyson was at at one time before he just annihilated the heavyweight division, and i was part of that in preparation, getting them preparation for that, i’m honored and i’m honored for the things that uh.
I learned uh being with tyson some of the personal things that i’ve uh was able to just get to know about him as a person on things, he’d done and said, and just private little things we talked about and and i’m very honored i mean i mean Literally um, i learned some things uh concerning his style on protecting me on where i’ve never been knocked down.
There’S some things i learned with kevin rooney.
I have to mention kevin rooney, because kevin rooney at that time learnt me some things.
Teaching tyson, as i watched tyson, do some of the things that he’d done to become such a great champion that he has become and those things even with me.
Now it’s some things that i have evolved from what tyson done and the things that i have learned.
I mean over the last seven eight years.
Well so yeah yeah, literally that’s impressive yeah, i’m looking forward to the showing a little of that and some things didn’t work right now, uh to make that happen, uh and i’m looking i’m forward to being a great big part of it.
That’S what that was my next question.
You, like, i said, you’re turning 56 soon in a couple of days and a week and a half exactly 56.
i’d, be there 10 more years.
In a couple of days, i better get my pissing for real, oh [, Music.
], train fighters and whatnot: that’s fantastic.
What is what is you’re gon na be fighting still fighting, which i’m hoping that kids look up to you and see exactly you as an example as to what could happen, what you could do live life straight clean, and maybe you too can actually make a career.
A boxing um: what do you think your? What do you attribute to your longevity in the sport other than that titanic chin of yours? You know um, i mean, of course other, but but number one god’s mercy, man.
You know the things that that i’ve experienced outside the ring, as well as inside the ring uh god.
It’S grace his mercy and the reason why i say both like that, because you know i was looking at me.
The second fight with me and lennox, lewis, yeah, and this time i watched the fight.
This is the first time i’ve ever really done this.
I don’t know why they’ve done it, but it was a different look at it.
It was without anybody saying anything i just bought him off off totally yeah and when i really looked and set myself outside of that experience, then, and – and i looked at some of the punches – that he did though, and they kept me connected and certain things i Was such in the zone on just what was going on and just certain disappointments? Basically, in myself and certain other things i was disappointed in and as i’ve seen at that time, i know it wasn’t me i mean i i admire.
First of all, i admire and respect.
Mr lennox lewis is a great fighter and i was blessed to really sit with him.
Uh i mean at the table i’m sitting out.
He was sitting right next to me.
Just a couple of years ago we was at an event and we laughed and talked and had a good time and and everything.
Oh linux is a cool dude man, yeah, hey liz’s, a cool dude.
I mean for real, i mean and uh, and so, as i was experiencing, that man i’m just elated to just to be here and have my faculty’s little sense and doing the right thing and trying to move forward good for you, man good for you, yeah yeah.
No man, it’s uh – i, like i, i said before earlier on this pro in this podcast – i’m not one to get starstruck, because i’m an actor i’ve been in movies.
I’Ve seen i’ve been i’ve been with.
Will smith um, oh foreign, will smith is a a beautiful man.
He is exactly exactly exactly like the fresh prince of bel air right right, except he swears a lot.
That’S! Okay! Okay! That’S it! He is a complete ass, complete prankster.
He is fresh prince of bel-air, except he swears a lot.
He says he just go off a little bit with the words.
That’S it that’s it.
I uh yeah, like i know linux, i i know quite a few athletes and stuff like that.
I’M an athlete! You know who got hit by who got hit by a bike.
In the past there in london he was a champion who linux fought, uh mason, gary mason yeah, then gary mason get hit by gary mason gary mason.
I think i didn’t i didn’t hear about it.
I didn’t hear that i heard he got hit by a on a bicycle or something gary.
You know he fought linux lewis for that european title, yeah check that out check that out and if i’m wrong i’ll, you know i want to know now to make sure.
If am i just just something i’ve seen that it’s not true.
If gary is, i don’t know if gary mason’s still alive, that’s what i want to do fair enough check that out for me, because i got to know him a little bit and he was one he was out of all the heavyweights.
I’Ve met him and uh, who else uh the pollock uh defunct and mason is the only two heavyweights with some of the strongest man he was.
I mean they had a concrete hand.
There’S ooh gary mason, because i remember shaking his head when i was in london.
I was sparring with frank bruno: that’s when i was following frank.
Bruno i’d met gary mason, this dude.
It was built like look like this and when i shook his head him him and golada andrew golotta got a handshake like a brick.
I mean he liked that too wow yeah, no, you sparred with frank bruno before or after you fought him before.
You sparked him before you fought him.
The first time i ever left out the usa was to london, england.
I went to london in the spot.
With frank bruno uh, uh uh uh, what happened? Did he get knocked out? Let’S see bruno yeah, i shall work there.
My first time ever out of the united states, my first passport i went to london, england and uh.
I busted his eye.
The first time i saw it bruno, i gave him a big shiner, that’s brutal.
He gave me a ride home.
Listen to this.
He gave me a ride to the hotel, where i i was, he had a nice little black eye driving.
You know y’all kind of crazy right yeah.
They do yeah y’all, drive kind of crazy, so big old, frank bruno driving, like that.
It scared me and i’m looking like man, you ain’t trying to kill me because i hit you in the eye like that, and i realized everybody like that.
It was funny he’s gone.
He uh, yeah uh, my manager, just looked it up, he’s passed.
He got hit by a van off a bike yeah, i’m not mistaken right when i heard about that.
Yes, my manager just confirmed that, when i heard about that, i i thought about that time when i, when i met him and and and and such a gentleman that that, from my perception of that time, i met him uh uh, you know i just it’s just I just i’m surprised, you don’t know ain’t that you know.
No, i i just read it myself.
My my producer just pulled pulled it up for us and said yeah 2011.
He was hit by that.
I did not know.
I did not know, and the thing is 2011 i had just left london, england i was just in.
I was in camp with david haye in 2010.
um, i didn’t man, i i had no idea.
I had no idea and 10 years later hagler.
He just passed.
You know hadley was a big big fan of mine uh, he came, he came specifically there i mean he came and watched me spar and everything before i fought larry holmes.
I remember talking with him eating at dinner and – and we talked about some things that we had in common as far as just social things.
I know because i asked him you know about why he left, because i was a boxing fan like i said i was a fan before i was a fighter and my dad used to always wonder why uh marvin hagler left after uh.
He fought sugary, leonard and and now looking at some of the things that has been brought up in in the public eye on just a lot of different things.
It brought out a lot of uh.
Just understanding of the conversations that i had with uh marvin hagler, he was there when i, when i fought larry holmes at the burden of proof and uh.
So i was blessed to really get to know him uh personally a bit and have dinner with him several times, and i just thank god for him: yeah yeah yeah.
He was one of my favorite all time.
Oh definitely he was like wow.
He was he was.
He was nothing shy of impressive.
That’S right! That’S right! Yeah! That’S right! Nothing! Travel! Impressive! Yes, sir! What does uh? What does once this whole coveted stupidity end.
What does boxing life look like for you? Will we be seeing you in the ring shortly? Yes, hopefully we got some things in the mix right now, uh and uh right now.
I just want to just just bask in the day i’m enjoying this conversation uh and then this conversation.
Yes, i do have something on the horizon and uh, hopefully uh.
I hope the fans there in canada i mean the whole country, canada uh, tune in and just check it out when it do come out.
Uh, i’m just gon na wait and be patient.
Let you know, i’m all right and i’m preparing and i’m ready, but in a couple of months i’m pretty sure something’s gon na happen, i’m looking forward to it.
I’M hoping that we’ll be we’ll be able to bring you up.
Uh come up to canada.
Maybe even get you in the ring and uh.
Do what you do you know? Yes, have you have? Have you go to work in your office? You know yes, sir, let’s do it, that’s that’s what i do.
I’Ve been doing it for 30, something years.
That’S what i’m right, man i’m a fighter.
I mean they said: what are they wild to do? Well, you’ve been fighting since he was 18.
How old he’s out he’s 50 he’s a fighter.
I mean really and uh.
I’M just elated and thankful, i’m i’m more.
I don’t know i’m happy that i’m thankful, but then i’m thankful that i’m able to be happy without all the little defects that go along with uh the sport which some of us go through and uh joe mccollum uh.
I i talked with uh: what’s the daddy? That’S just michael uh, michael’s, second to none.
I just told him yeah.
I just talked to michael second to none and i gather talking with him.
We were signing autographs uh.
We talked about uh gerald, mccullum and uh.
He had just went to see.
Gerald mcconnell was going to see him, and so it’s a lot of the things that i really want to do in the sport of boxing.
For those who really love boxing for those who have uh, they sweat blood and tears in the ring and things of that nature, some of us that is blessed to come back with blessings.
We could share that message with those that’s less fortunate that help those piggyback to make the millions and billions of dollars, and i mean i think that uh the fighters should look out for each other’s a little bit more.
You know, i believe the families of the fighters would think so because of the risk and the things that they’re sacrificing as far as the fighters leaving their family, loved ones and health and health is being jeopardized.
All these things should be addressed in the sport.
So that’s something i definitely want to address on my comeback or when and or if and when i do fight fantastic.
Mr, mr mccall, i want to thank you for this opportunity.
We are we’ve run out of time, but i would love to have you come back? It’S been nothing to shove, a pleasure meeting you it’s been nothing shy.
I have a pleasure interviewing you and i’m like a school kid in a candy store waiting to see what will you bring out post coven in the ring i would like to for most part.
I just want to say thank you for coming out.
It’S been, it’s been a pleasure.
God bless you looking forward to seeing you again talking with you again cheers cheers please hit the like button and subscribe.
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