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I think we’re live welcome.
Gentlemen.
Welcome sporting fans, boxing fans, in particular from around the world to another episode of the friday night panel here on talk and fight, and i think we’ve only got one fight to talk about.
Although there are many on the card um i’ve, i’ve been saying all week in other programs uh, my two cents here is, i think, i’m betting on deante wilder.
I think he’s for a number of reasons, and you can all have your you’re weighing in on this one but uh.
I think i think he’s uh he’s he’s up, for.
I think he’s uh figured out uh how he lost in number two uh, the things.
The thing hang on the things that he’s been saying: um, the things that he’s been doing uh to me make a lot of sense.
I like the way he’s been training.
Quite frankly, he’s been training, uh body charge body shots by shots, headshot, bishop headshot uh.
I think he’s going to try and uh.
Do the old, liver punch, combo, liver, punch, headshot.
My point is: is he’s going to have to come out swinging first three rounds.
Get the job done if he can’t it’ll be a slugfest which he might lose again so uh, but there you go.
That’S my two cents, guys um neil deal great to have you back on the show.
I hope you’re feeling a lot better.
I know you’re under the weather for a bit there cedric and i see you and again and uh who’s who feels like weighing in first on this one on my prediction: go ahead: neil go ahead, hold on hold on here.
I got a few things quickly to say: cedric, yes, very, very nice to have you aboard on the talk and fight team man.
I’Ve never met you.
I just want to say thanks a lot.
I’Ve heard great things about you and i’m really looking forward to working with you in the in the upcoming year, all right same here, man, sam here nice, to meet you too right on, and i just want to say thank you very much to my fans and All the talk and fight people out there the comments the views have been going over the chart.
Honestly, like you know, yeah i’ve been a little bit under the weather, but everything’s back to normal and we’re coming back faster, furious and harder watch this, and i got stuff up my sleeve this year for the talking fight fans.
That’S going to enhance everything that we’re doing here.
You just said: furious furious, oh yeah, yeah, okay! Well, that guy, you know, he’s english! So we’ll we’ll deal with him in a minute, anyways, all right! Guys! Thanks a lot! It’S nice to see you again.
I want to thank all my fans and the talking fight fans for sticking around and checking us out, and hopefully you can tell your family friends and everybody else about us friday, night panel, the new and improved neil.
The deal show cedric’s show anything we’re doing so.
I’M really looking forward and the mike gore at four.
Of course, the uh he’s our uh kind of uh father so to speak, and hopefully we’ll be around in a bit.
I don’t know, maybe he’s he’s.
I don’t know what he’s doing, but mike wherever you are in the world right now, please uh tune in and if not well we’ll see you next friday or uh something of that sort, but graham yeah, you uh, you were you say we’re going to talk about Guys we’re going to talk about this wilder fury 3 thing right.
Yes, all right, perfect! I’M going to send the mic over to cedric and give give us a cedric’s opinion before i give my crazy ass opinion that everybody’s probably going to think like yeah, okay.
Well, like this guy’s been off for a while, he still needs more help or something.
You know what i mean so whatever uh cedric.
What are you saying, bro so um, you know, we’ve all already established that uh tyson fury technically is the better boxer um a lot of people would say, even though the first fight was a jar that he won the first fight um.
He clearly clearly won the second one.
Um wait, wait, sorry cedric.
He was put on the canvas twice in that first fight yeah, i didn’t say i i didn’t see.
I think he won the first fight.
I just say: there’s you know you hear a lot of people, i you know it was a draw.
It draws a draw.
So that’s that’s what that’s what it was so um and the first, the first time he got dropped.
It was a long count, but that’s that’s.
That’S another story.
Um yeah, you know yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
We could definitely get into that too um.
You know, there’s nothing too much.
You can learn in between fights.
So, that’s why that’s why you hear a lot of people, not not really believing that, even though deontay wilder has a new coat that there’s going to be any changes made, but the one thing: if there’s one thing that he could work on that and that he Did have enough time to work on is just an extra jab using his jab having more of an educated jab, not just randomly throwing it out there.
You know sometimes popping out there hard, sometimes just flicking it out there to get to get his opponent.
In this case, fury thinking about that, so he can sneak the right hand as opposed to just be blatantly looking looking just to land that right hand.
So because of that reason i think he did.
I think he has been working on his job and i think it’s gon na work.
For that reason, i’m picking wilder for the ko not sure what round but um, but you got ta, have a round you’re back at the end of the throw graham we’re all going to have our prediction.
It’S go of course.
Yes, yeah mike orr, if you’re out there, you can like message us and let us know what your prediction is: how’s that mike come on, i’m sure when he realizes what time is, i’m sure he’ll hop on right away, yeah.
But it’s my return and he’s supposed to be here because he’s one of my best friends and i don’t know what happened he’s – probably talking to tim who’s actually down in las vegas right now, oh tim had tim, had an extra interesting exchange with uh deontay wilder At the press conference he got to ask wilder a question: um yeah, it’s on youtube.
You could find it.
He actually kind of he said uh.
Do you feel that you had enough enough experience to make the decision to fire your trainer, who you know, was a um yeah didn’t go into that, but uh well, didn’t he didn’t say something like mark bralen saved his ass by throwing in the towel.
He did.
That’S what fury was saying right, so hey braylon save your ass boy.
That’S what fury said.
Yeah fury was saying that about right.
You know, apparently, wilder has changed his camp right, neal, neil yeah.
What did tim ask deontay? He asked he asked wilder.
It was kind of it wasn’t a clear question, but he kind of asked him.
Why, like he, he asked whether do you feel you had.
You have enough experience to make that decision to fire trainer and hire somebody else and, while they’re kind of answered you know it was a.
It was a mutual decision um.
So it wasn’t like a clearer question, but it kind of it was a little awkward for a second, because he was kind of just questioning why he would.
He was basically questioning why he why he fired mark breeland, who, for anybody doesn’t know, won a gold medal at the 1984 olympics and was the great great boxer himself yeah and and and he knocked out his new trainer uh in 2014.
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So he did so.
It’S a pretty suspicious uh decision for yes, yes, yes, yes, some some trainers may believe.
So that’s neil.
I know you’re a good guy in everything.
My first time meeting you, but you know i’m from montreal, so we’re gon na have a little bit of a little bit of conflict with uh man.
I feel so bad for you like really really, oh my god all right.
Well, that’s even i even like you better now i do despise.
Montreal fans love the people, but despise the fans all right.
Let’S get back on track, yes, um, so um neil any predictions uh on the fury, wilder side of things before we delve into the other fights on that card.
Well, in a nutshell, yes, i have a lot to say about this fight coming up.
This is just my opinion.
Everything fight fan thanks a lot, keep up all the good work.
This is what i’m going to tell you about this fight all right.
This is this is a trilogy, correct.
Graham, this is their third fight, guys right to me to me.
It’S almost staged.
This is what i think i honestly think it’s almost like when we made the movie robocop and it was the black cop against the white cop and they had the black robo.
If you know what i mean so deante weiler is like the black robocop and tyson fury’s robocop.
You know and all of a sudden they have this trilogy and they got to fight against each other.
So to speak, and i think it’s got out of proportion and a little bit blown out of proportion.
Those guys are probably good friends between us guys.
I personally think they.
They probably are good friends and they’re, making a lot of money doing what they’re doing honestly um good for them.
They deserve it, both of them no doubt about it uh.
But as far as the fighting is concerned, there’s been a lot of things.
Like graham said, in the first fight we all watched the first fight and uh.
I i liked i liked the way wilder was running around the ring in the first fight.
You know, i really did he he was.
He was very consistent with his with his jab right.
He did.
He did got what two knockdowns graham, like you were saying in the first fight right there he is and it ended up.
It ended up being a draw type of thing, so these guys are are honestly they’re they’re, very even i think, really it’s it’s a very, even matched fight, so to speak, and it’s kind of it like i say the trilogy things for me are very sort of Like come on, you know what i mean you guys have already duked it out.
You know, what’s going on now, you’re just kind of milking it for what it is right.
You know unless you’re gon na go into the gaudy war, trilogies and stuff of that sort.
Where it’s actually, you know something that everybody i’ve always talked about on.
My shows, uh that everybody should watch is the god gaudy award trilogies something of that sort.
I don’t think these guys are going to go down in history.
You know with the fraser ali styles, you know um and i think i think the heavyweight division is stocked with great fighters right now.
You know i really truly do and there’s guys that are coming up daily and there’s uh.
You know these guys are at the end of their reign.
I think both of them.
They both have issues but uh.
It should be a good fight.
Uh.
Personally, i know this sounds uh.
You know, i don’t know, i’m taking wilder man, i’m telling you.
I know.
I know you’re laughing, but you know why? Because i can’t stand that english guy he’s pathetic.
He’S he’s he’s a typical name: hey hey he’s an irish gypsy irish gypsy! That’S what he is man i like him.
I like him, but he i i like the way he fights, but i don’t like him.
Listen it’s! Basically, a boxer versus a puncher and uh right right hand yeah every yeah, everyone, everyone! Everyone is saying.
You know what uh tyson fury’s a great boxer, but if, if wilder lands that one punch it’s lights out and so it’s spock, it’s boxer versus puncher mike good to see you guys so we’re we’re talking opinions on the uh, fury, wilder fight, specifically right off the Hop and then we’ll get into the undercard but uh, but i think i think it’s gon na go.
I think it’s gon na go the distance.
What yeah man interesting? I think i think what i was just saying like about about them being like parody like they’re.
Pretty even fighters man, they really are they could i wouldn’t say they were really.
Even i would say you have you have a you, have a guy who’s, what six nine uh who can move can move like you know like a cruiserweight he’s quick he’s fast uh.
He has unorthodox style of punching.
He can throw from his waist he’s, not afraid to stand there with his hands down and give you a target and he’ll make you miss.
That’S what he does.
Man, honestly wilder has to take it like if wilder’s going to take it, it’s going to be in the early rounds and if it, if it gets taken past those early rounds, uh wilder’s, just gon na you know, he’s not gon na be able to play the Game that tyson fury, dishes out and uh fury fury will watch that right hand.
Fury will watch that right hand.
Everybody knows this wilder.
Has that right hand? I don’t care who you are? Is you get hit by that right hand and it’s over, but we have a guy who is able and has been able to outbox while they’re in the past, so welder literally has to come with something that we’ve never seen before and we don’t know if we’re Gon na see that so you know what i’m still, i’m still i’m still sticking with my my my guns.
I think it will go the distance and i think, fury will take it on points before before we move on to the next fight just to um.
I think this is kind of um.
Obviously the skill level is not there with both guys, but how um, pacquiao and marquez fought like four times and people can people say well yeah.
It took marquez like four fights to knock him out, but you know the fact is he he you know he figured him out and, and it happened um.
So i don’t know i’m just looking.
I think i think, while there’s a little bit more focus again.
I said mike before you came on and said: there’s not too much things you can improve on in between one fight, but if there’s, if there’s one thing you can work on, you know is you know, focus on one thing: it’s at least your jab.
So i’m i’m just assuming that that that, while has been focusing on that, you know whether it’s the powerful jab or just a couple of pop-pop pops to blind your opponent and then to be able to sneak the right hand.
Because, obviously the whole world knows the right hand is coming, but the thing is to try to disguise it.
It’S trying to disguise it.
Yes, but then you see, then you see, then you go back and watch highlights, highlights or not even highlights.
Just the last match is a fury he can pop those he can pop those jabs out like it’s nobody’s business, you know and he throws them real, tight, real, like real on point.
You know wha, you know what you know.
It’S the same thing: every time, fury very good fury can really box and if we’re gon na see a good match, you know what wilder did change up his coaching.
You know he’s training under a new guy now, but is that enough? We don’t know he has to box like he boxed when he was in the olympics.
Man use your skill.
Not just your power he’s got to show skill.
If he’s going to do anything, he’s got to stay on the inside so that he can do something, and that is the only way that will happen, but you have an intelligent fighter like fury who is who knows what’s coming? He knows it’s coming.
He knows what to do he’s gon na stay away.
From that right hand, he’s gon na keep him at the distance and he’s just gon na play with him and he’s just gon na play with him, and if that keeps happening, you know what, if he knocks him out, you knocked him out if he doesn’t knock Him out, it’s gon na go the distance man and you know honestly, i think fury is gon na.
Take this one.
I do believe so.
I think wilder just doesn’t have hasn’t had enough.
He needs a lucky punch exactly, but you know what is that a true? That’S not true boxing man and he landed, he landed.
The lucky punches aren’t true.
Anyways michael, i know i know.
[ Music ] never mind the guy’s, cutting the guy’s cutting pieces of his shoes out, so he can turn his ankles better and and throw shots like what do you think about random yeah you’re packing a cheater michael? No, i’m not i’m not backing the cheater.
Any of the pre-fight stuff mike did you see any other listen.
I’Ve watched, i watched the last two fights.
I know exactly what i saw.
I watched the last two fights i watched.
I watched drop three twice and fury still stood up, and then i watched him draw that fight, and then i watched the second fight and listen wilder got a [ __ ] slapped is what happened in that second fight.
He couldn’t deal with him yeah all.
He did was get it.
What happened, what happened and then he ended up on his back.
Well, what happened was he got his ass kicked, but it’s just yes.
Yes that way, it won’t come.
You had a point there.
What was your point? Um quite interesting fact that the weigh-ins today um i’m not sure how much uh fury weighed in at the last fight, but i’m he weighed in at 277 today, i’m pretty sure that’s a little bit heavier than he was last time.
I’M not sure how much that’s gon na affect his movement, but wilder, i’m pretty sure, was only about 212, something like that.
No more than 215 for the first fight, all right, i’m bigger than that he weighed in today at 2, 38.
wow, whoa.
Okay, there we go so i’m interested to see how that that extra weight is gon na help.
Here he has a 39 pound edge difference yeah.
He didn’t remember.
If you’re very free, a lot fury relies more on his movement and skills, you’re heavier a little bit more harder to move around wilder only relies on his power and he’s heavier.
So it’s going to be it’s going to be a good fight.
We’Re looking for wilder to come out quick, fast furious and if he can’t finish off fury by round three, it’s going to go the distance and at that point well.
Well, not not necessarily round three, because a lot of a lot of wilder’s knockouts come in later later in the fights like that’s.
Why that’s? Why that’s why people say you know people who try to talk bad about his skill level, because a lot of these fights he’s losing even against lower competition like technically he’d, be losing on the scorecards.
But you know at one point at some point time boom and it’s good night and it’s happened 40 out of 41 times something like that, whatever whatever his record is so the problem you know the problem is the problem.
Is it’s happened? It’S happened to tyson fury.
He ate the punch and he got back up.
How many times can you do that, though he did it twice in the same fight, yeah he’s in the same fight but and he got up man – i got you but come on, but just to say that, like fury is gon na have no problem walking through, While they’re that right, hey, you know what i’m saying what i’m saying, what i’m saying is: is everybody in the boxing world knows that wilder has a right hand, yo, listen and i would be doing the same.
[ __ ] i’d be watching that right hand and making sure it doesn’t keep hitting me, but because honestly, you’re getting dropped, you’re getting dropped and you know what it doesn’t matter.
If he’s gotten up from it before you, don’t want to have that that you don’t even want to have that that that chance that you might not get up from that hit, so i’m telling you man, fury’s gon, na outbox him he’s gon na keep him out.
He’S gon na keep him at a distance man and he’s gon na just pelt him with those hands.
Man he’s just gon na pelt him with those hands, keep him at distance and that’s what’s gon na happen, man, that’s exactly what’s gon na happen, yeah i’ll, get you a beer that doesn’t happen.
I’Ll bet you a beer.
I’Ll bet you i’ll bet.
You’Re.
12.
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I have two minutes, i’m into it, i’m on all right.
All right.
I bid you 12-pack yeah wilder shows up hey, like i said anything can happen, it’s a boxing match and and this guy what’s his name, fury again.
Yeah man yurious tyson furious, he’s gon na have a problem.
He’S gon na have a problem mike.
He didn’t have a problem.
The last two he’s your typical englishman.
He got way too big for his britches and that’s and you know – listen he’s an irish guy he’s an irish traveler he’s a king of the gypsy yeah.
I know he went affected or something that’s your problem with the english anyway, i’m pretty sure, i’m pretty sure he was born in manchester yeah right well, manchester’s, not in ireland no, but he is some kind of a gypsy or something they call him right.
He’S born tyra’s parents, man, let him go, live in a caravan because that’s what’s going to happen afterwards, he does and it’s about the size of your mansion yeah.
Well, he probably does well you don’t have one all right.
Anyways can we argue about another card, exactly boys, i’m behind my boy.
The nigerians are uh.
You know they’re a force to be reckoned with right now and um.
Honestly, i’m i’m going my boy yo, my boy jagma, i’m saying you know i like him, he’s all around seriously uh well-schooled that guy, so he keeps a zero he’s.
Gon na remain undefeated yeah.
You know what, but but frank sanchez is no joke.
Yeah.
I know i know it’s a true test for him.
Both these guys are undefeated.
One’S got 18 fights the others got 15.
.
I’M telling you right now, um, you know a lot of people see our friends over at last.
Bell.
Well, carl believe sanchez beats him uh too early for dogma.
I believe i believe it is early for a jaguar, but i think he’s one of these guys that um, he’s gon na say he’s gon na surprise, everybody, i think he’s gon na come through with the big w it’s gon na be a devastating knockout in it’s.
The only way he knows how to deliver them, i mean it.
Might it might make your show on sunday it might make my show sunday.
You heard it here.
You heard it here.
There might be a knockout in that fight.
That will end up on our show.
Do you believe fellainius is going to beat kawanaki yeah, that’s going to be that’s going to be an interesting rematch! That’S a very because helenius was the uh.
Was the underdog in that fight um? That fight was supposed to be like a stepping stone for kawasanaki to um to fight one of the one of the top guys and hello.
I’M sorry guys.
I went with my nordic nightmare man.
I went with the nordic nightmare in this one.
That’S who he is is that what he said something about that the nordic nightmare yeah man he’s fighting he’s fighting fellaini fellaini is all right.
Yeah nightmare, you know he’s 30 and three uh.
This is a rematch.
You know coming off uh coming off last uh.
Last march, i believe it was, and that was for the vacant wba gold, world, heavy title and uh.
You know it only went four rounds.
So unless one last comment for me, then i have to fly uh.
I believe big baby jared anderson is going to take care of uh tereshkin.
You got it.
I believe that’s going to happen too um also also on that card.
We we have one of my guests coming on that um yeah, one of my guests, um mike mikey’s down at the bottom he’s gon na be on.
You know the undercard.
I don’t know if it’ll get televised, what’s his name mikey down on the bottom who’s right now, he’s um he’s he’s six one and one uh he’s fighting uh victor uh vikas who’s, 7-0 uh! You know it’s an eight-rounder.
It should be a good good match.
Uh he’s agreed to come on the show, after after this uh this weekend and uh, hopefully his big w uh.
You know this guy he’s one of these heavyweights.
It’S just you know he’s in it to win it and he’s uh pouring his heart into it.
Man and he’s just following his dream and he’s hoping that uh one day he’s gon na be a champion as well.
You know and he’s trying real real hard, so we’re gon na see him on this card yo this card’s full of heavyweights man, i love it.
It is a heavyweight card mike it’s all it’s like old school.
You know what i mean on that level, where they used to have multiple uh fights within the same division like you’ve, never seen lightweights, fighting on a heavyweight division fight.
You know what i mean.
This is uh, you see, middleweights or maybe cruisers and then heavies right.
Well, we also we do have.
We do have super metal which i’m i’m excited for man on this card, this guy, whatever whatever check his record, it’s all he has all of his fights.
He has all first round knockouts, except for his last fight when, like eight rounds, yeah other than that not just knockouts, all first-round knockouts, he was actually he was actually one of these guys who was uh who’s, climbing that uh climbing that record trying to reach that Record of all first round finishes yeah.
His last fight did not go the first round, but uh.
At least.
We got to see his boxing skills because it’s hard to see uh the skills of somebody who just keeps knocking people out in the first round right, yeah yeah.
We actually, we actually got to see a bit of his skills, and you know the guy can box the guy can box and not just knock people out of the first round.
So i’m excited for that.
I’M excited to see him get back in the ring.
Edgar berlanga on that card man’s badass can’t wait to see that guy right, hey guys, keep on arguing guys i’ll see you later.
I have to run all right.
Take it easy on the pension, oh yeah, so we got lots man.
We got lots of [ __ ] going on in the boxing world, but that’s not the only cards that day it’s not the only cards that day man yeah mike lesson and what else is going on in the world of boxing today.
Well, i’m gon na.
Let you know, don’t worry about that.
We got uh.
We got liam smith man, we got liam smith card, oh a liam smith card.
I never heard about him tomorrow.
You’Ve been out of touch for too long brother.
That’S tomorrow, yeah i’ve been uh dealing with a few things and, like i said, i want to thank everybody for uh all the all the views right mike and uh yeah, all the nice warm comments and all the stuff everybody’s been wishing me.
I really appreciate it.
No hey, you know what and guess what, since uh since you’ve been gone, we’ve been monetized, and now you have to watch commercials before you watch our pure pretty faces fantastic, that’s exactly fantastic, and i want to thank you mike for all your hard work too.
Before we, i forget thanks brother.
Thank you.
Welcome back.
Welcome back, i’m glad that uh all your your personal [ __ ], worked out great good job.
Yo man is that it that better not be a canadian jersey hanging over your shoulder while you’re wearing the leaves is it are you kidding me, you got to be [, __ ], so that’s why it’s it’s a parmenville, barmanville uh jersey that i got from palmerville.
Actually, nice, nice all right so on this card, man uh this card is also saturday, the ninth uh, it’s a it’s an early card uh.
So yes, i definitely.
I talked a little bit about this last night on that last bell.
Boxing we got liam smith and anthony fowler for the wba international super welter title.
That’S the head of that card uh.
We also have cheeseman on that card.
Fighting for the british super welter title against williamson, shannon courtney returns.
I love cheese man, jamie jamie mitchell, shannon courtney returned on this uh this time.
I’M out, we should uh.
We should remind people this fight, this card, it’s in the uk, so it’s in the afternoon.
It’S an early one.
It’S an early one.
I believe it’s around.
2 p.
m: eastern standard time that one starts for us: where can we watch it mike? You can watch it on the zone, baby, the zone or or well i’m not giving i’m not giving you my uh, i’m not giving you my whatever uh.
Where can the people see the fight so yeah? So it’s on his own uh, apparently courtney, uh courtney didn’t make weight so uh we’re gon na have to see what’s happening there right, because that was for that’s her title shot.
So i believe, that’s going to say that what happened too many cheeseburgers that that title’s gone.
I believe it is.
I don’t know what the wwe title fight loses weight on the scales – oh, my goodness, wow.
What a way to go out, what a way to go out! You know what i mean: do all that hard work, anyways well yeah to just to just have it taken away.
Uh, shannon courtney said to be stripped of the wba title after the title fight after the way so um yeah.
Unfortunately, unfortunately, that’s uh, that’s some upsetting news.
Um wait.
She weighed two and a half pounds over the 118 limit on friday afternoon in liverpool.
Although the belt will still go ahead, um yeah, that’s it she’s, being stripped of the title.
Uh courtney only won the world title in her last fight in april when she beat ebony bridges.
So this is this is some sad news.
Man uh yeah.
It is it’s not the first time that courtney has missed weight uh, but um has made significant changes to her camp and training regimen in recent months, but apparently the changes she has made uh kind of kind of messed up man for the scales.
It’S uh.
It’S kind of hard man two and a half pounds a hell of a lot of weight to uh to to be over when you’re about to uh to jump in man.
It’S uh, it’s kind of ridiculous yeah yeah come on cedric you as a you as a boxing and training, strengthening conditioning coach.
You know what man two and a half pounds is laziness in camp.
Is it not yeah? I mean if if that means she must have lost honors.
No, i don’t know what i mean that must have been.
That must mean she must have been killing yourself to lose a lot more.
If, if you know if she had to stop, if she, if the person quit at two and a half or so or actually just didn’t, take it as serious and uh and then that’s that’s also not a good thing either.
You know what i mean, i would say, there’s two reasons why people why boxers don’t make weight it’s either.
You know, depending i’m, not sure how old she is.
But you know you know if you turn pro at 1920, you’re still growing as a man, so sometimes you’ll move up just naturally your weight classes or you’re, just not disciplined with your with your nutrition she’s.
28 years old man she’s been doing this game.
She’S been in this career, she debuted tonight in 2019 march 23rd, she’s been around long enough to know how to lose weight um.
You know this and she’s a small girl man, only five, five right so for for for her to be over two and a half pounds.
That’S uh, i’m sorry, man, that’s unacceptable! It’S unacceptable as somebody who’s fighting for a championship and somebody who represents one of the championship belts already.
That’S unacceptable uh lose weight by that man.
That’S that’s good, that’s not good! Well, i guess it happened, but not very often it’s unfortunate.
It happened and uh.
You know what we move on so honestly: she’s, probably going to get in there pissed off make a mockery of of jamie mitchell, beat the crap out of her, and then you don’t lose that belt.
That’S unfortunate uh! Also on that card man, i want to say um here on conway uh 16 21 is taking off james metcalf uh for for a super welter belt uh in between there, in between the courtney and uh cheeseman fight.
So we’ll see what goes on.
I’M not too familiar with too many of the other guys.
I know we are having a peter mcgrail is making his debut fight in the super feather division against ed harrison.
That’S supposed to be that’s supposed to be.
Give me a little fight there uh peter mcgrail uh.
You know, i’ve checked him out amateur career uh.
It should be good man.
It should be good.
This uh carl again he’s from liverpool he’s one of these feisty little guys uh.
I can’t wait to see his debut.
It should be good man good evening, good evening, carl good morning, girl what up brother yeah.
I knew kind of late over here guys, but i felt compelled to jump on after some of the nonsense.
I’Ve heard on the show right on that’s what we’re all about good publicity and bad publicity are the same thing carl.
So what do you got to say about the same thing? They’Re, not the same thing at all.
I never thought i never thought i’d say this, but mike’s talking the most sense on the show tonight.
Let me put it that way.
I know it’s.
It’S a first! Congratulations! Oh yeah! I took great sense: hey um, hey carl! Do you know this kid? Peter mcgrail? Yep, a very good fight tom, obviously recently come at the olympics.
Um and eddie has got big hopes for him.
Yeah man yeah, i think i think he’s uh.
This should be a great, a great, a great first fight for him, and this should be a great debut match.
I’M kind of excited to see this kid get in the ring and uh and take on somebody.
That’S got you know some ring experience man.
It should be good.
I can’t wait i’ll be honest with you what a great day for boxing no matter what time zone you’re in yeah yeah, it’s a really good card.
I’M excited to see everything a little upset about courtney and not being able to make weight very upsetting and as a pro who does this uh, you know it’s your job and who does this? That’S two and a half pounds is unacceptable man.
I can understand.
Maybe a pound and a half, but two and a half pounds either you didn’t take your camp serious or you.
Let yourself go between fights too much um.
You know what yeah good good thing she’s got back to the drawing board and i worked with a you know: work to bring on some different people here: yeah she’s, she’s, huge she’s used female physiological physiologic relationship as an excuse.
I don’t want to go too far into that you foreign over the over the weight yeah so but um.
The reason why neil i’ve got to address this anti-english rhetoric that you’ve been coming out with tonight.
I’M scottish! It’S in my blood! Well, you don’t sound very scottish fella, but yeah i’ll take your word for it and they’re all the same.
So it’s quite interesting because obviously mike proclaims to be irish, oh yeah, you proclaim to me scottish yeah.
You both got very good canadian, i’m canadian borrow i’m canadian, but i i i like my heritage is from scotland so to speak, i’m canadian so including that’s a fiori fight.
Then yes, yeah, so um i put in the sidebar.
I’M a big believer like mike tyson says once once fiori lands on wilder he’ll revert to time, yeah yeah, you don’t understand that carl anything can happen as well.
Neil, while we talk about what might happen.
That’S all.
I just got a punches chance.
That’S all this, but when, when you say it you’re what you said mike, what mike tyson said is very true once you get here, but what i’m saying is well yeah, not you know.
Sometimes you can.
You know, gain your composure and and still stay.
Uh stay focused um.
What i was saying, though, is that um again you can’t, while there’s not, i mean sorry fury’s, not known for the one punch power he messed up wilder last time by like a combination of punches.
So i don’t think that analogy is true.
As soon as he gets hits one time from fury that he’s to go back if he lands a couple of them like he did last time, it would be a different story, but not not just one, and i again, as i said before, carl you’re, listening that, If, if wilder has improved his jab just to disguise that right hand, the whole world knows the right hand is coming, but if he can disguise it more, that’s why i’m believing i’m not just going with that.
I just that’s.
Why that’s why we love boxing right, because it’s all about opinions and my opinion says that it’s not good enough to execute that.
I just don’t think he’s good enough.
I i don’t think i don’t think he’s done enough between the last fight till now.
To really surprise anybody with anything uh if he’s had time to work on his job, sure it’s great but um, it’s a style of this.
It’S just a style of games.
Man, two different games: you have a guy who’s, gon na hunt down fight off his back foot like fury, can fight off his back foot no problem.
You know he’s very he’s very easily and yeah and he’s just his movement, his movement man, he’s he moves like a small guy carl.
Don’T get me wrong.
I i don’t know personally thinks about the reasons hold on guys.
We need it.
I need to be one at the time, please one at a time it’s kind of late over here, but yes, yo, fury, fury, can fight off the back foot.
Man wilder’s already charged adam uh.
I don’t think i don’t.
I don’t think wilder has done enough to to switch up in his game to really wow us.
I think sure yeah he’s worked on his job.
He showed us that i’m sure he’s going to use it.
Is it going to be effective? Maybe maybe not we don’t know, i don’t.
I just don’t think that he’s done enough in his fight game at this point in time to wow us and overwhelm fury.
At this point, i believe i believe it’s gon na go.
I believe it’s gon na go late into the rounds and i believe it might go the distance and fury will take it on points [, __, ] cedric.
One point i would want to raise with you is, i think, he’s even larger than what the scales are saying like you put in the sidebar, because he had his bottoms on.
We don’t know what was in his pockets, etc, etc.
So i think that weights closer than that cedric, you say you think wilder had things in his pockets.
No, no purely i think fuel is even lighter.
Oh, oh, oh then what the scale would suggest lighter than the 277 girls yeah.
I think their weight is probably a lot a little bit closer than we think.
Okay.
How do you think that that extra 20 pounds is gon na help or or affect while they’re in a positive or negative way? I’M just saying 40 40 pounds seems that seems a little bit different, so i think they are a lot closer than four man.
So obviously you to answer cedric’s question.
I think the extra weight will be negative for wilder because i think it if i i can’t thought of a game plan for him to win cedric if i’m being brute launched movie.
I know this.
This is the echoes of music.
So i’m a bit cautious of what i’m saying um, but i just he’s that fought him he’s that boxed him and for me it’s two nil.
I know people talk about the first one graham said he got knocked down twice: blah blah blah.
I’M a big believer that second knockdown did.
You feel me a favor because he got up put it on him, pushed him back and realized.
That was the way to beat him yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
I can’t uh can’t really argue with that.
Just um.
You know only one way to find out, but it’s an exciting fight, guys, isn’t it definitely definitely an exciting fight.
Definitely something we’ve been waiting for a hell of a long time, uh it’s! Finally, it’s finally coming.
I’M super excited for that all right.
Let me just jump in my don’t be giving me this way.
Can i just make a quick comment, guys yeah go and jump, but just quickly now.
Just give me one minute mike, don’t be giving me this about him being trying to claim him for ireland when he’s born in manchester fella right yeah, but he’s still an irish gypsy.
I don’t blame him at all.
You can it’s all about the taxes.
Now.
That’S awesome: i can’t wait for this fight man, it’s been happening.
Yo we’ve been waiting for this gon na be a great.
The heavyweight heavyweight world has been waiting for this fight for a long time.
It’S finally happening.
Let’S get it underway.
Let’S see what happens man, you know what everybody’s entitled to their opinion.
Just you know the only thing that matters is at the end of that match.
That’S all that matters is what happens at the end of the match.
Whoever’S rights right, whoever’s wrong is wrong.
Whatever what just click quickly just quickly who you got out of dillian y versus wallin, who wins that yeah? This is what i wanted to ask who gilliam? Oh you know what wallin wallin i was about to.
I want to make a comment you know gave fury.
He gave fury hell in that and when they fought had them bladed up against the ropes, pushing them against the ropes, um bullying him around a little bit and looked like.
So you know what i’m actually going with otto wallin with this one, i’m going with wallin you’re going falling eh yeah yeah, i like wallet too yeah me too.
What’S the date for this fight, i believe that fight is uh scheduled for the october 30th.
Okay, okay, uh, honestly yeah.
You know what oh man i like walling for this one as well: wow, that’s a consensus across the board.
Yeah yeah! You know what, based on his last performance, well his last performance.
That was my first time.
Yes, yeah exactly exactly so.
That’S that’s, you know yeah.
I got walnut on that one for sure, so he was going through the liverpool liverpool card right.
Yes, that liam smith and fowler yeah yeah yeah.
What is your take on that? Actually, carl, i had a quick question.
What is this? I’M reading this little quote from fowler that says: um anthony fowler, believes inactivity will play a part um, but liam smith, no liam smith remains confident.
Knowing he’s never lost a scouse derby.
Yeah is almost slang word for someone from liverpool.
They called a scouser uh.
There was a scarce darby’s because liam smith, from the north of the town and and and anthony fathers from the south of the town, uh yeah, so didn’t they call it didn’t they call this a battle of the battle of the liverpool or battle for liverpool or Something that i remember calling you right after this uh after fowler won his last match, and i was like this guy’s got nothing on smith.
I think smith takes this one and i think he takes it quick and early.
That’S what i called this one for.
I called it for a fourth rounder, stop it yeah.
You know what i just think smith has.
I think smith has a little bit too much still for him.
I don’t think fowler has enough skill set in his uh in his repertoire to uh to hold it to smith man at all.
Well, this is a little bit above blood in his fight, because um, the smith can’t believe father shouldn’t be getting this fight.
They believe he’s jumped the queue um and father’s talked about inactivity.
That’S because before liam smith fought kerbin off in russia, which he won by the way and he got robbed.
Yeah he’d been out the ring for 17 months.
So that’s where that’s what that is trying to get some confidence from um.
I think it goes longer than that mike.
I think it goes to six seven or eight yeah.
Okay, okay, later rounds yeah.
I i believe this.
I i thought it was going to end early, that’s uh, those are my predictions on it.
Fourth you’re saying it’s a little later, we’ll see what happens.
I just know.
I just know that we’re on the same boat and uh liam smith has taken this one for sure i don’t think fowler’s winning this at all.
Definitely remember that.
I’M not sure who to predict.
I remember after after fowler’s last performance, when he won, even even though he won, everyone was saying um.
You know that they were still picking liam smith to win right off the bat.
So, but it’s all about levels, cedric and and people in the majority in the uk – don’t believe that father belongs in the ring with smith.
Okay, we had porsche.
We had paul smith on the channel yesterday liam’s brother, and it’s quite an interesting interview where he does tell you quite a bit about behind the scenes so feel free to uh.
If you want yeah, definitely we’ll definitely have to check that out.
Uh we got fights tonight guys um around the world, we’re going to be able to see it on his own.
I know i’m going to start watching soon tonight, yeah we got some stuff going on in argentina and then we have literally a pro debut card.
It’S almost an entire card on ufc fight pass coming out of california, so a bunch of debuts there, a bunch of up-and-comers that i’ve been keeping an eye on and watching throughout their careers.
So i got ta get to work for you, neil! It’S good to meet! You fellaini, it’s only banter.
I may have been banter with [ Music ], okay, so the tyson fury wilder fight goes on.
The winner goes to do what take your shades off.
So i can see the white of your eyes.
What happens next guys? What do you guys think they fight he fights the russian guy that beat joshua or well joshua? What do you think’s coming up? Joshua? Has the remix rematch clause? First, what it looks like he’s gon na take, so they have to wait for that rematch, which is probably gon na happen in february or march right, and i believe the winner from tomorrow is gon na look to negotiate for for the winner of that of the Rematch, so that would be the unified the undisputed championship of the world.
At that point, that would be yeah hasn’t happened and carl will love.
This hasn’t happened since lennox lewis, retired he’s the last undisputed heavyweight champion in the world yeah baby yeah 2004.
We got the fourth belt.
We have never seen an undisputed heavyweight champion in the four belt era.
So that’s right, yeah yeah, it’s huge huge i’ll! Tell you the way i’ll tell you the way i think it plays out so aj’s gon na want the rematch of usyk, which i believe will be march april time yeah.
I think the winner, fury and wilder will clean up the mandatory, which will be white or walling, and then you’ll have a super fight somewhere either saudi arabia or the uk in the summer, a unification part.
I like your prediction, carl.
I like it because the saudis are definitely getting in the game and they want to bring the biggest super fights to their uh.
You know the emirates area, so to speak, sports.
They got ta pay for the island.
They built man come on no yeah, no exactly whatever man they got like.
They got ski resorts in the middle of the desert.
Exactly exactly no money’s no object over there.
Well guys! That being said, man do you have any last comments.
You want to get off.
Your chest here before uh before we go because i got ta, go and watch some fights well.
Cedric’S got ta watch some fights too, because we’re gon na find some knockouts in the weekend exactly um nah man.
I i uh.
I know it sounds crazy, but i’m sticking with wilder with the jab and sneaking in that right hand for the k.
o.
I think it’s a long night for wilder, i think fury, will come out and put it on him.
He’S a bigger man he’s the heavier man.
He’Ll push him back and we all know why they can’t fight off the back foot.
So it’s a long long night for wilder yeah.
This is neil wilder’s from the united states.
Is he not yeah? Is the fight not in the united states? Yes, vegas, yes, good! I’M taking the home dog in this one guys wilder in late late rounds, if not all the way, it’s a it’s a top-ranked promotion right and fury’s, the top ranked dog, so i’m gon na stick with my top ranked people hold on.
Let me add one thing if it like, i already know if it goes like, if it’s the seventh eighth ninth round, i’m already predicting for fury to be winning on the scorecards, i will be scoring the fight i’m already predicting for fury to be winning on the Scorecards but again, while there’s power, while there’s power, he does knock out people late in fight so yeah, even though he might be losing the fight, there’s still right up until that 12th round, that uh that he could land it like.
He says these guys when they fight me they have to be perfect for 12 rounds.
I only have to be perfect for two seconds.
Well, not always not always because if you finish them in seven, so you have to prepare [ Applause ].
Thank you girl.
Thank you girl, so, honestly, carl thanks again for joining man.
It’S always a pleasure having you guys on thanks for having me yesterday, neil the deal welcome back brother nice to see you.
Thank you.
Everyone.
Thank you so much to hear that banter good to see those shades i’ll talk to you throughout the weekend and i’ll see you sunday for our show.
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