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EPISODE: Episode 13
Featuring 2-time heavyweight champion Tim Witherspoon, our group of panelists are always prepared for another weekly roundup of boxing headlines, including updates about boxers from the past and current event news to share with the many fans out there that enjoy the great sport of Boxing!
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Transcribed:
Geez, you can tell us new year’s eve around this household all right.
Thank you very much fox and fans around the world for joining us here on talk and fight, uh, the last episode of the friday night panel of 2021 and before we get going uh because it is the end of the year.
I would like to say uh a thank you to all the hosts and all the guests who did appear on talk and play throughout the year since our inception, uh in the october month prior.
So what is that 2020.
? So we’ve been on nearly a year and a half now and uh and doing quite well.
I just wanted to say thanks all those hosts and guests who’ve helped us get this far uh on this particular episode uh.
You know we want to have a quick look back on 2021, so we may as well say right off the hop a quick little uh final farewell to those uh those boxers who have laid down their boxing gloves and passed um.
You know, uh.
There were quite a few of them uh i remember yeah, so it is a year in view.
I thought i’d start off by saying thank you to those who passed on and uh.
I know they’re enjoying their journey wherever they may be right now, um they’re in the ring in the sky, the big ring in the sky for sure they are, without a doubt, um the way.
The way i kind of had this going was uh well.
First of all, i thought more guys joining us.
They said they would be joining us, but i guess uh it being new year’s eve here we are mike um.
I i just got a couple of best of this and best of that uh.
In my own little mind uh, but before i even say another word, how you doing mike i’m great i’m great uh, there’s there’s not much to report on tonight about the fights except for the one card tomorrow.
Uh so might as well touch base on that.
Get that over with uh, yes, the ortiz and martin card um.
This is going to be.
This is going to be a great showdown guys it’s going to be a great first fight for the beginning of the year uh.
You know the weigh-in was not of any concern to any of the 10 participants on the five fights all heavy weights.
Uh are going to be going on uh saturday evening, seminole hard rock uh.
You know miami’s ortiz, he’s weighed in at 243.
4 pounds the heaviest of his career for his first fight since a 45 second wipeout of alexander flores nearly 14 months ago.
That fight represents his long ring appearance, uh lone ring appearance for the cube in southpaw, who turns 43 in march, since his repeat knockout loss to the then unbeaten wbc, heavyweight, titleist, deontay wilder in november of 2019, so uh yeah and his opponent.
The martin has weighed in at 246.
2 pounds for the first fight since the pandemic.
Uh, the saint louis native, now, based out of the greater los angeles area, has been out of the ring since february of 2020 uh, with a stoppage win over gerard washington, who also appears on saturday’s, show uh and then in that co-feature who we talked about during The week been frank: sanchez 19-0, with 13 kos, faces the late replacement kristen hammer, who is 26 and 8 with 16 kos in a scheduled, 10-round heavyweight pout uh.
I’M super excited for this card.
Uh there’s a lot of a lot of guys that have been following me throughout the year and uh honestly uh at least we got some boxing for uh new year’s day uh shout out to ray from uh from from basketball boxing over in the uk how’s it Going brother join us if you’d like uh, there’s, there’s the link uh, we’re just shooting shooting our mouse off about this wonderful card here, uh also, also in that uh on that card man, we got uh frank martin, uh, who’s, 14-0 uh, and this one.
This is, this is a lightweight battle uh.
This is another guy that i’ve been closely watching uh.
You know throughout his career and uh he’s going up against romeo uh romero, dunno uh.
She should be great man scheduled for 10 rounds.
Uh juno is 24 2-0 and oh man, i’m loving it.
Victor vikurst is on this card as well.
Uh i’ve talked about him numerous times: profiled him uh the ukraine 29 years old, known as victor foste, uh yeah man, eight, no, with six kos uh he’s back in action.
Man and – and i’m super excited to see this uh.
You know we don’t it’s not that often that we get these big heavyweight cards and that’s what this one is, but it’s full of uh some heavyweight action so to all the people out there that love boxing and love watching these heavy weights go at it.
Don’T miss this event, i can’t put it.
I can’t put it to you any better.
Then january, 1st 8pm fox sports fight tv.
The new year will kick off this heavyweight bang as five exciting heavyweight matchups take center stage in the jam-packed fox sports.
Pvc pay-per-view on new year’s day live from hard rock can’t.
You can’t can’t go wrong with that man.
I’M super excited, but that’s all we really have to talk about in uh in really the world of boxing for matches uh tomorrow, uh there’s nothing wrong with tonight having having said that, then uh as i promised our fans uh on facebook and other platforms uh, we Would discuss our opinions on certain matters which we tend to do when we go a little offside, as we tend to do so so yeah i mean i mean if you, if you have nothing to do on new year’s day there you go something to do, and I mean quite frankly, if you’re a sports fan here in north america, there’s not much going on uh, mainly due to code.
So i i do kind of find it surprising that one of the closest contact sports is having this event so, but good for them.
Good.
For them, i i was i was reading.
I was reading a whack of different articles as we prepared for this episode on.
You know other people’s opinions best fight of the year best fighter of the year, all that kind of stuff and there’s an interesting one of the interesting things that i noticed was uh the upsurge.
If you will, in recognition of uh female fighters, i’m not going to say women’s boxers, the female fighters i’ll be gender specific and just simply, but i can’t believe how many discussions there were going on between when they’re called best fight of the year as fighter of The year there are actually women in those discussions as well, which is really good to see, but my best of of the year best upset of the year here it comes, you have your opinion, i’m sure, but here’s mine, and we have not fans out there.
We have not discussed this, so these are surprises, but i think the biggest upset of the year uh was goes to george cambocis for his uh defeat of tiffany lopez.
Yeah no i’d have i’d have to agree that uh that match was.
We were waiting for that match to happen.
Man that match uh you know took, but i think there was uh three dates that were set.
It was picked up and dropped and wow what uh, what what a joke! You know what yeah it was.
A big upset.
Uh, but you know you know what it just goes to show you all it takes.
Is man some some punches and, and you can win it, it’s anybody’s game.
That’S what that’s what it shows you i i think uh you know, depending on on which articles you’re reading, if you’re, if you’re reading british articles, they would say perhaps most would say the biggest upset – was auntie and joshua losing to alexander youssec.
I was totally gon na.
I was gon na mention that um yeah, that was a huge upset uh.
Definitely we got ta see that uh that that early in the year uh you know that rematch has got to get underway and uh we got ta see see some.
Let’S see some anthony joshua the way we know him to be and uh fighting at least the way we know him to fight because uh honestly wow yeah i’d pick.
I picked him to win.
I’M surprised he lost, but uh in in that.
In that vein of uh tiffino lopez, uh losing uh, came up, gutsie’s performance, uh, best gusty, gus, gutsiest, best gutsiest performance of the year and uh the interesting debate.
There was because the doctor said he he had uh like swelling of the lungs uh.
Somebody with that effect well, our producers actually entered our producer.
Our producer is gracious.
I’M was ebony bridges, okay uh, but that was going hand in hand with uh giffimo lopez.
So it was interesting that ebony bridges, behopp how’s it going look at that graph in hand.
He’S written he’s ready, i just wanted to say, happy [, __, ], [, Laughter ].
I i have some highlights that i’m going to play and uh i’m not, it might actually just show up just in one of our uh one of our side panels but uh.
I’M going to go through and i want to play a couple minutes of a few, a few of our shows that we’ve uh that we’ve had on in in the past.
Here, oh, oh, there we go all right so so so we’re gon na start we’re gon na start off we’re gon na start off with with ashay jones and how she uh.
Absolutely that’s a nice.
She is, and she’s got a great personality too, and i wan na go all right.
Can you guys hear her? No, you can hear her or you can’t yeah.
I can hear it myself all right, perfect.
Okay! So that’s! Oh! It’S correct! You know what i can’t hear it, so you know this.
This might not because wonderful, this might not work as wonderfully as i thought it might, but you know technology, that’s fine! I i i think i think i might have to just make up a an awesome reel of all of our best interviews over the last uh.
You know year and a bit and just uh and put that together in uh into a little video here.
Listen like i say this you’ve been watching too much of the james webb telescope he’ll be watching them going on.
You know, you know, i’m quite proud of those chaps over there down down in where they they’re in texas, or something right and uh.
I think so.
[ Laughter ], you know we’re not in the states uh we’re in canada just just to put that out there i mean not that it makes us any better, we’re still in north america, but i mean it has quite a quite a bit uh down there to Uh to get down to texas, yeah bro, listen! What’S going on at the moment, which big james webb thing where they’re putting all these.
It’S like a big roast.
You know when you do a roast chicken.
It’S just it’s scary like that, it’s full of uh.
What is it foil? They put foil.
Just like that? Listen i could.
I couldn’t give a [ __ ], it’s it’s uh.
What is it new year’s eve? I couldn’t give a fly.
You’Ve got obama to.
Where is who’s your top five who’s, your top five who’s? Your top five yeah – this is a boxing channel, but you you got ta start of all time with your top five, otherwise we’re putting you come on.
Let’S hear it, let’s hear it who you got full time, yeah interesting! Oh wow! Oh! This is difficult.
Not you mean not, because i’m gon na put you sick all right.
Oh this, this is gon na be difficult.
You want the top five all time after their careers after the career is done.
Hey i you know, i mean i posed the question.
It was just your top five to stay.
Do you want me all the time so you’re gon na go behind me? Um was a filipino champion.
She got a muhammad ali pancho villa he was a filipino third fighter of all time, the great canadian yeah.
This is a good list, you’re getting from me, so you’ve got.
Who did the side was first, so so probably right, yeah muhammad ali, you got muhammad ali.
Do you want my fourth of all times gon na be rocking my asiana yeah yeah? That’S that that’s my! That’S my fourth of all time, wrecking my siana.
I’M not my fifth of all of all time is jack dempsey, there’s gon na say jake paul; no! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! That’S not that’s not happening.
Oh i’ve got some credibility.
This is an englishman.
It’S interesting that you mentioned quite a few americans in there yeah the the american uh in terms of boxing soldier field in chicago madison square garden.
The only place that bucks existed over the last 200 years was in the united states.
It was in england.
Well, it’s quite a statement.
Yeah yeah, i mean like we love england and the belts existed here, but the actual sport of boxing has always been from the united states and that’s that.
And if people want to argue that, if they want to argue that with me, then you’re more than willing to get in a conversation with me and you’re going to it looks it look.
It looks like last bell’s got some things to say here.
He’S got he’s got the mecha boxing.
Whatever he’s awesome, if he wants a discussion, he’s got the link who’s your prospect of the year out of 2021 coming out of 2021 who’s, your prospect of the year.
That’S the next mine davis.
Probably it’s pretty good, then i think mike knows where i’m going, where you going.
Okay, okay, is it’s not avril mathy? Oh, that’s a good choice.
I thought it was gon na be april matthew, but it is it’s a fantastic choice, but it’s it’s jared big baby.
Anderson yeah man, you said that before you said that, before, though you said about big baby anderson he’s going to make big moves in 2022.
, do you think he’s going to do anything get heavyweight? Yes, absolutely he already has, i think, he’s 10 enough.
I don’t know man, i’m not i’ll, think he could’ve been over aj i got ta, be i got ta, be straight yeah uh, we’ll see we’ll see that do you have any prospects under your mic honestly yeah man me and mo too our girl miyamoto man coming Through staying undefeated, probably the busiest yeah in the world she’s one of my she is one of my favorite too, like literally she fought ten times in a year.
Man she’s got two belts.
You know, mother of five from new zealand, just taking it by storm yeah.
Shout out to her also um yeah man i have to.
I have to give a shout out to you know our guys even brady, jalen scott, you know jane skye, wild black.
You know norman junior.
We got them all man.
There’S tons of these guys in these guys yep yep, so, okay, okay, okay biggest upset, though biggest upset of the year yeah, go on bro joining he hasn’t funny boxers.
Yet what are you talking about? [ Laughter, ], [, Music ].
Did you see what dana white said, though, right then dana white’s, sick and tired of being called the coke head? So so he says all right.
You know what i’ll do i’ll do: 10 years i’ll do 10 years of drug testing all right.
If jake paul will do two years of steroid testing.
I thought he said two months, never right so jake.
I love all that [ __ ], though the jake paul’s thing.
It’S really good, really, really good.
I don’t hate it.
To be honest, so you know what it is.
It is what it is, i’m glad to see that he’s giving boxers uh.
You know an opportunity here to make some real serious coin, which is really good.
You know he’s giving these boxes some of their best.
Paydays they’ve ever had so he’s the greatest he’s.
The greatest troll he’s the greatest troll man he can.
He can literally, you know, hey the king of trolls right, the king of trolls, mr uh, mr jake paul and his uh, his older brother.
You know what they said: logan logan, they’ve they’ve made they’ve yeah and it’s ridiculous right.
Logan you’d think he’s the squirrelier of the two and uh and you’d think he’d be the younger one, but no no he’s he is the older brother and uh.
He led his younger brother astray.
He’S like hey, let’s make a bunch of money and let’s put you on a stage and let’s uh: let’s have some fun with this um and they didn’t realize that they’re getting into a heavy hitting sport.
You know, like i mean i don’t understand what they were.
Trying to prove they were, what are they trying to prove? Well, i mean if i, if i had the amount of money that they had to, and you know, and you look at you and you and you look at at the spectacle that they’re creating it’s it’s.
You know it’s there’s a lot of respect to be had with you know, not just falling off the map with what they’ve done with what they may or may not deserve.
You know they they may uh.
You know still disappoint us in the future and i mean maybe money many will say they already have but um.
You know that that that being said is you know they? They have a great opportunity ahead of them and uh, and i mean they they’re really uh.
Not i’m not, i was trying to learn from you.
Biha come on man, i’m the producer.
I see every.
I see every comment that comes in this place.
The only thing you’re going to learn from me is how to get drunk because i’m english, so you’ll learn how to get pissed.
I got a college diploma in that buddy.
I’M curious to see i’m curious to see what mvp signs next.
Are you gon na learn? Much from me, i’m a bit like uh.
What’S his name, michael bisping as well, you know, according to uh, according to the pbc uh the fighter of the year.
According to one of their polls, it was actually uh, no nido donaire, because you’d mentioned uh, you mentioned uh the filipinos earlier and uh yeah yeah, but they have always the thing with pbc, though they’re always gon na play games, especially showtime and everything.
So i wouldn’t really listen to them all bob aaron and then he got wbc with the belt they’re trying to cause [ __ ].
I don’t think there’s anything in boxing.
That’S good at the moment.
It’S all [ __ ], so [ __ ].
Now i disagree.
I think canelo alvarez is something to talk about.
Yeah yeah tell me how you really feel just kidding hi ray, hey ray: how about am i too bad um? How are you doing? How are you doing mike? I see what you want you to hear me.
You be hot pigeon pop.
What what are you getting called now? This is the be the be help bro b-hop is it? Are you from the the boxing channel? No, it was, it was last spell it was last spell it was the one that trained to get you one and you kept running off.
You kept running off.
So what are you up to kept changing your mirror man? You kept, you know, kept changing the name.
You kept not wanting to come on what was the matter with you.
What are you up to son? What are you up to i’m just enjoying life mate, i’m just enjoying life.
You know chilling talking boxing how about yourself yeah i’ve had a good day happy new year to you, sir yeah yeah, see you soon me.
If i’m honest, it’s it’s got ta be.
I know i know everyone says camposis, lopez and uh.
I agree with that by the way it’s definitely up there, but the one that gets me the most is laura um josh warrington, simply because 100 percent, no nobody gave nobody at least with cambodia’s junior.
You knew who he was right.
You knew you knew he thought.
Lisa knew he was unbeaten, you knew he had quick hands.
You knew at least he had some sort of skills that, although you weren’t picking him to win the fight, at least he fought okay.
Maybe he can worry, listen, laura, absolutely wiped out josh warren and nobody knew who laura was recording.
I knew i knew people that were training with ramirez to jose ramirez and laura in the same team.
I’M sorry, i’m pissed, i’m from birmingham, i’m [ Laughter ].
What he was saying was right he’s on that uh boxing channel with people from northampton.
What is it nottingham or northampton? Listen, listen! Bro, listen, bro, listen, bro, uh that fight we’ve written against lara.
I made a lot of money on that because there was a lot of idiots in the uk who thought that lara was going to get wiped by orange, i’m from birmingham bro.
There was no way and i’ve lived.
My missus i had kids, who have listened bro.
Listen bro you’re talking to a main man.
You took it to a main man, yeah, listen bro! You! You need to shut up.
Bro, listen, bro, listen, bro, you’re, not listen! This man did you go on the imran tv, the imran tv? Listen.
I made a lot of money over warrington getting knocked down that fight a lot of money, man, twelve hundred pounds.
I’Ve done that all right, wan na send some my way.
Yeah yeah, listen! Bro! We have a donate option.
We have a donate option.
I mean we are we we are not doing as well, as you may think, we’re doing with this channel, but we accept don’t we accept donations, [ Laughter ], i just i just think it’s so good and the khan brook the khan brock’s going to be excellent.
That’S really going to be a good fight.
I don’t care what people say about calm bro.
What is the asian against black thing? Brook? Listen.
Are you gon na? Let your you’re gon na let b-hop come in here.
You’Re gon na he’s gon na come in here.
He’S gon na help, mike he’s gon na help mike mike, is that what he’s gon na do [ Laughter ]? Can we can we discuss the kawasaki fight against bernard hopkins? Can i discuss it with you here? No very well much of laura and for me i just thought i know.
Josh warren lost his belt, not in the ring by politics, and i just thought this laura’s just gon na be a walk over um until he fought never ready.
I literally thought laura was just easy, pickings and easy defense.
I know he didn’t have the belt all the time, but you know what i mean: you’re just gon na walk through him and uh set him up for a big fight.
I did not expect.
I didn’t expect that in the manner that it was, it happened as well.
The first couple of rounds – laura looked bang average to be honest, um he looked, you know he looked flat-footed, he looked slow, you could tell he could dig, but he didn’t have anything at that time to trouble warranting a little bit of power yeah but weren’t.
They that all the tools were available, the quicker hands better footwork.
He had the ring iq as well, but then for some reason, just wanting people saying it was the ring wall.
But for me it was, as the runs grew on.
He looked unsettled and i think that was a big surprise for me, and that was when that was stopped.
To start all the talk in the uk about um the lack of fans affecting the fighters – and i think that was that was a that – was a great example.
Um yeah.
You know you would overall go for cambosis and lopez, but for me that’s going to be high up there, laura versus um, just warren yeah.
Honestly, it’s it’s in my top five of big ones for sure yeah.
Another big one for me was the kiko martinez and kid galahad, oh man, yeah.
What what a shock like scoring.
You know that was a shock upset man in the main event uh, you know for what nearly five rounds the fight was going.
The way of you know heavily favored galahad, who was facing pressure from martinez uh, but handy, went fine and then, as martinez just didn’t, seem able to do enough damage.
Yeah uh the tone changed sharply late in the in the fifth round and uh.
You know galahad was caught on his chin, uh drilled with that right hand and wow put them to the canvas like that was a huge upset.
I did not expect that one to happen at all.
No i’ll be honest with you mike, i didn’t think um kiko martinez had anything left.
No, i thought he was turning up for a pd.
You know game um, yeah what you you thought he was getting beat yeah.
I agree with you.
I just thought martinez was standing up for a pay off eddie yeah.
I didn’t think he had anything left but yeah and then he does, you know, does what he does and shocks the world with this huge upset, but yeah big big, upsets this year.
Man a lot a lot, a lot of upsets.
There was um.
Obviously, you’ve got um beck, the bully getting beat off gabrizado yeah um.
I know you guys would probably want to do it and knock out the air.
I know mike loves these knockouts, so i don’t want to jump in there too far.
I don’t want to stay.
You know, take take the fire away from mike, but that that was that was something finished by gabe zordo.
Oh again, that came out because i’m from the uk as well, i don’t know what’s going on with what do you think’s going on with white and tyson fury at the moment? Still don’t know, bro people don’t know in my seat.
What’S going on, we don’t know if this fight is going to happen or not.
Oh it’ll happen, it’ll get done the world cup the world wants to see it it’ll happen.
You know, i think 2022 2022, it’s going to be the year man.
A lot of fights are going to happen that we’ve all been waiting for these.
These divisions are going to start moving around man.
Things need to seem to seem to happen at the moment and i’m not seeing the fights happening to be fair, it seems to be a bit disheartening politics and money, that’s what it’s all about right well and it’s also the new year’s and christmas holidays.
So i mean you know this: this week is due to be a little bit slow.
Honestly, one of the biggest fights of the year i’ll say has to be ebony bridges and shannon courtney that was [ __ ].
That was a [ __ ].
No, that was that was a good concept.
Consider i agree with you by considering where they were in terms of you know, they don’t have a lot of fake experience here.
I think yeah they’re both listening to me, trying to give me a hard number because that everybody brings you grief.
Looking so was um uh, natasha, jonas and then katie taylor, she’s, yeah, she’s beautiful.
You know that that natasha, have you seen the jokes.
Is it very beautiful, i don’t think perfect, oops [, Laughter, ], i’m surprised it took you uh what half an hour to do that lads, but you know what it’s it’s fun, because it makes no sense.
It’S new year’s eve, we’re not here to make fun of anybody everybody’s ever everybody’s everybody’s entitled to their point of view uh.
You know what uh i’ll, forgive myself for not realizing all the past comments might potentially come up, but i mean i, you know i actually don’t have a problem with free speech.
Um everybody’s allowed to say whatever the f they want uh unless it’s swear words on our channel, which is happening too much there realistically.
Just because just because you know we are, we are really trying to uh, have a family channel here and uh.
You know uh not be so welcoming, that’s, okay! You know what the the link’s still wide open in the question: yeah who’s, your favorite female boxer.
Right now, oh you’re, me yep.
You are right, favorite female boxer.
At the moment i would probably go for savannah marshall.
Oh yeah, i think i think savannah marshall is, is one big fight away from becoming the um, the household name.
She deserves to be um, you you so she’s, my favorite um.
Also.
It also helps that she’s from about half an hour down the road from from where i live now um, but she she’s she’s a very good fighter.
I mean mike with a profiler, she can punch and she can take a shot she’s now, training with uh peter fury, who you’ll know, is the uncle of um tyson, fury um, but she can fight and, i believe, she’ll.
Whichever way it goes, she’ll give clarissa shields a hell of a fight.
Oh i’m also a big fan of um, my two favorite ones over all across the pond uh i’m stuck between um, i think uh michaela may has improved a lot.
She’S improved a lot.
I wasn’t too keen on the first time i saw, but she really is getting better with every fight, um and uh, i’m a big i’m a big um serrano fan as well.
Oh you, you took it right out, i mean yeah and you know one of my highlights of this year.
You know you can’t put in a knockout or you can’t put it in um.
You know a fight in the air.
What have you? It was the fact that, despite me, absolutely hating jake paul.
He made amanda’s toronto a millionaire, and i thought i was a nice touch and you know that’s one of the nice things about him getting involved in boxing, although i don’t agree with him whatsoever and amanda solano deserves to be a millionaire.
If anyone deserves to be that makes sense to be a seven-week champion um, you know, and i i believe that maybe in 10 years time, another female who would achieve the same feat would probably be earning three or four times as much.
That’S how we’re going to see the progression of women’s boxing if you went back 10 years, you know in the uh in the naughties.
Perhaps women boxers wouldn’t have earned more than you know the equivalent of a hundred thousand dollars or a hundred thousand pounds, but they see them earning what they are now they deserve.
It uh it’s supposed by katy like the fang, but the fact that i can sit and name three or four top.
You know women’s boxes just tells you how far that that’s decided this board’s coming coming out.
Oh man, it’s it’s! What do you think about uh jessica, mccaskill, uh, yeah, um, justin mccoskell, i mean wow, i mean um, we’ve been very careful in in england, not the writer off because of the katie taylor loss, but she’s bounced back she’s become undisputed and uh, depending on the outcome Of the taylor serrano fight she’s in there with a show of wanting a rematch, i don’t think katie taylor would give her a rematch, and i think and well await.
Katie taylor would do well at stake.
Well, clear, um she’s now two weights above katie taylor and i think mccaskill beats katie taylor on the um on in the rematch.
I know when i, when i was um on last spell with carl and andy, we’re all agreeing that um katie taylor’s on the she’s on the slide a bit.
You know, um she’s been a great experience to the game in 2017, too, right like yeah.
That’S from a long long way since then she has, she has and she’s got a long way up and katie taylor’s kind of being steady, steady and starting to decline.
Um she’s she’s had a long career in pro and amateur boxing katie taylor and i think at her age 34 now we’re starting to see the wear and tear um, but she ca justin mccaskill’s, a very good fighter.
You know you’ve got um bomb gardner as well.
Um she’s a she’s, a good fighter, um uh, the the the girl that beat um, shannon courtney, she’s she’s a good fighter as well: oh lucy obama.
Well, she she beat them terry harper.
She she stopped terry harper.
Unless you have one gone, i think was: was it jess martin who beat them? That was back yeah? When was that that was back in november, something like that november october time, yeah yeah may even be in september um.
Well, that was that was one.
I didn’t see coming actually like alicia baumgartner just came out of nowhere there and put up the good fight.
Well, terry, terry harper um.
I saw it coming in the center.
I think terry harper’s still lucky that was lucky to have that belt.
In my opinion, natasha jonas beat her yeah the chance of jonas b.
Terry harper was very, very lucky to come away with that belt.
I think, at the end of the day, what what uh the good thing about this year because of the better matchmaking because of the pandemic and some aspects so much making them still quite poor, like on a fight camp cards, um people like paper champions, got exposed A little bit like shannon courtney, terry harper exposed when they got put in, was somebody that knew what they were doing and that’s what we saw one one of the other one of the other female fighters that mike has profiled cenicia, estrada, [, Music ] right now.
Right now holds uh holds what the fastest knockout record of women’s boxing.
So seven seconds seven punches.
So we we can.
We can sit here for as opposed to years, gone by uh on a recap edition of what’s happened.
You know we’ve now listed five or six female fighters who are truly great fighters and and should be recognized as such, so but and they’re from different parts of the world too.
So it’s not like uh one country’s dominating in terms of uh, training and or uh.
Compensating quite frankly, these fighters, i i think 2022 will be the year of uh the female fighter yeah.
I wouldn’t disagree with that korean um.
I think there’s i can think of two or three massive fights to make katie taylor and toronto.
That’S definitely going to be happening, i think maybe march yeah, it’s a big fight, um, unfortunately on the next paul card, but well i was going to say.
The funny thing is: is you’ve got eddie hearn on one side and jake paul on the other side, so to the mouths uh.
You know i mean it’s, it will be a massive fight.
It’Ll be a massive fight.
It’Ll be it’ll, be the women’s fight of the century, man, that’s what it’ll be well i’ll.
I also think in terms of in in what could match that fight from women’s boxing would be clarissa shields and savannah marshall yeah um, simply because you’ve got closer shields undisputed.
In two way, categories: um, the history of uh, of watches, yeah, yeah and then you’ve got savannah marshall who’s.
The only boxer to have beaten up is an amateur um and i i think both have improved so much since that fight right, and this is probably be the first time she’s in there.
I know christina hammer.
Uh had a good reputation as well, but savannah marshall’s got substance, so you know christina hammer believed a lot of it was there.
She was fighting a lot of stiffs in germany, savannah marshall’s been putting away those stiffs she’s, not just being beating him on points.
Looking you know all right, she’s been stopping people she’s been, you know, i don’t know any females that hit hard like what savannah marshall does she hits like a truck man yeah.
She does mike, she does and it’s like a truck and she’s got her accuracy.
She’S got that pinpoint accuracy.
Her punches come straight out, there’s no telegraphing she’s real tight and she just flows.
Man and the way her her fists flow.
It’S technique, man technique, creates power.
That’S why she hits some damage, that’s it.
It looks effortless make it looks effortless and she doesn’t waste a lot of shots.
So that’s going to be a very interesting fight, so i think you’ve got commercially a massive fighting katie taylor in terms of revenue, particularly if it’s around seeing patrick’s day and then you’ve got a stylistic match up, which is going to be fantastic for the purists.
If you know what i mean – and it might not do as well economically, but it would still it would still be a great fight, so yeah you’re right, graham next set well this year.
It’S definitely going to be the the air where female people well, i think i think the last signing of the year for eddie hearn was a woman alicia baumgardner.
So i mean i don’t know what he’s got lined up for her, but i mean he’s going to start he’s, starting he’s going to start building his roster to go against uh.
What amanda serrano is leading off with uh jake paul.
You know he he’s got he’s got to crush jake paul, it’s not about having any.
You know contender.
No, it’s it’s a it’s about! It’S about absolutely annihilating the the competition i think for that situation right there and who did who did christy martin just sign mike? Oh uh yeah, i’m sorry so there’s not just there’s not just fighters but there’s also managers and promoters.
Uh, we’ve just had a really good chat with uh some women in the states who are building their roster um, one of those women they made a movie about her, actually called uh against the ropes.
So i mean there’s a lot of women getting involved in the sport.
That’S kenny jones, yes, destiny, jones right so and not to mention uh, the young lady.
We were talking about the olympian uh, who you were talking about at the beginning of the show before ray jumped on here – um, oh shea jones.
So so i think i think, there’s i think it’s a lot.
It’S a lot of competition.
It’S bubbling under and there’s an awful an awful lot of really top level competition that they’re going to excite the fans anyway.
So that was just my single thought that i think 2022, a the heavyweight division in the men’s uh weight class is going to get uh cleaned up.
I think, and i hope yeah the welterweight looks like an interesting division.
As far as men are concerned, i really like what’s happening there and lightweight and lightweight, so we have the divisions right now.
Man there’s a couple of really good divisions that uh fighting fans are looking forward to seeing some good results out of uh.
I didn’t like just just an opinion here.
I didn’t like the way uh terence crawford handled that relationship with bob aaron in public uh, and i didn’t like bob aaron’s response either because i’m sure he made a lot of money on pay-per-view sales uh, but nonetheless uh the victory was a victory uh that night Um, but i do think i do think a lot of the uh other weight classes have a lot to still resolve if you will in in terms of how their fighters are getting compensated.
I think i think the pay-per-view stats are going to speak for themselves and helping to sort that out.
I know, there’s a lot.
You know.
Sky sports has an edge um in the uk.
We don’t get it here, um, you know, whereas we do get to zone.
So there’s gon na there’s gon na be an i think.
It’S gon na i still listening.
I think, there’s still a lot to play for when it comes to uh pay-per-view and live streaming in 2022.
I think there’s going to be a lot of other competitors into the space.
Certainly we have our designs on broadcasting.
A few shows as well so um, you know, i think, live streaming and pay-per-view are going to make an impact in 2022 on all the different weight classes and certainly you’re going to see – and this has nothing to do with jake paul but you’re – going to see An awful lot of personalities uh becoming more.
I don’t know public as opposed to just what the what skill sets they have to display in the ring um.
You know how we used to back in well, not if you guys remember, but back in the old days, you really would pay attention to what muhammad ali had to say.
You would pay attention to what these boxers had, because they actually did usually typically have something to say right other than other than what i’m hearing out of either tyson fury’s mouth or jake, paul’s mouth, quite frankly, either one of those you know, i couldn’t care less.
What even, though, each professes to be self-righteous but they’re they’re, both big mouth and and i really don’t really care what they have to say.
But in days gone by, i really did listen to what uh respected boxers had to say, and you know what’s funny even to this day um.
You know there’s a time when i really really like mike tyson.
There was a time when i really didn’t like mike tyson, but now now i kind of like him again because he’s saying the right things these days mike plays he’s seeing the right things and he’s doing the right things and he’s behaving himself.
That’S the main thing he’s behaving himself.
It must be all that weed he’s smoking, [, Laughter, ] he’s got him he’s, got him calm down, but maybe that’s a lesson.
Maybe that’s a lesson that some of these promoters need to learn when they’re training their uh boxers.
When it comes to these weigh-ins and these post-fight interviews like i, i i don’t understand, uh what they get, what what there is to gain from um the shenanigans that go on either before a fight like leave it for the ring, leave it for the ring.
It is what i would argue i mean: do you see this in any other sport? Is there any other sport in the world where you see these kinds of shenanigans going on before the actual event? No, no! No honestly, this year this year was the year of like like square offs at the weigh-ins man, i’ve seen layer-ups yeah ten ten people square.
You know hey weigh in okay.
Let’S take that picture.
Oh, he touched my nose now we’re gon na fight like well yeah, and – and i mean it’s in such a gentleman’s in such a gentleman’s sport – i mean you should think that that that that initial tee off, that initial kind of knows.
Who knows that that that is? That is the epitome of being able to show your control and, if you’re not able to show control, then i mean really.
What are we really glamorizing here, this chess game, this chess game, which they’re not able to use their mind even in the pre-game of what’s going on here, like i mean your mind, is what we are really competing for here in this game or in this sport And, and if you can’t even keep composure, you can’t even find the words in order to describe what you’re going to do to your opponent in the upcoming match.
You know what are we? What are we really glorifying here? My thoughts, i don’t know because um when, when he saw canelo plant, i thought if anything, canelo lost his control there, but in the ring canelo was in complete control.
Yeah.
Definitely definitely you know.
You know you know what there’s a lot of build up to this too, that that happened because with with covid happening – and you know, fights being rescheduled three or four times and being pushed back and opponents getting dropped out, yeah it’s! It is hard for these guys to keep their composure, man yeah situations, and then it just takes that one guy to say that one thing that just doesn’t doesn’t work.
You know, or naked’s hat or take somebody’s hat or hey ray ray quick question: do you think josh taylor’s coming back yeah? I mean he’s fighting next month.
Oh wow he’s fighting on the 26th against uh jack carroll and that’s in glasgow.
So john.
The only way that fight doesn’t happen is if the british border boxing control, don’t allow fights because they’re covered um there’s talk of them.
Do it making that decision uh on tuesday for the rest of january um.
Obviously it’s not tuesday.
Yet so we don’t know what they’re gon na say.
But if, if that’s the case and they decide that uh we’re not going to put any fight on in january, then the uba eubank fight will be off um because he’s fighting liam williams.
But as far as arnold yeah josh, taylor’s back he’s got, he’s got his d he’s training and um by all accounts he’s looking really good, and i expect him.
I mean jack cat rolls a good opponent, but i expect him to to get rid of jack carroll.
Uh, probably around around here, oh yeah.
I think i think it’ll be a late one.
I think it’ll be a late start for sure i don’t think you’ll put them away yeah, but after this one graham, i won’t be surprised to see him at welterweight, because this this is a mandatory of um defense, jack catwald’s.
A mandatory saw provided when he gets rid of jack cat, really he’ll be moving up.
You may stay at 140, but i strongly suspect um.
If you ask me to put money on that, he goes up to 147 after this fight.
I think he’ll do well at 147.
.
Seven he’s got the frame, i mean.
If you look at him and head to heads, we’ve just been talking about head-to-heads.
There he’s taller than a lot of his opponents, yeah um any, and he can easily fill into that frame.
Easily easily definitely well yeah, he’s 5 10 right, so he’s got he’s got the big frame man for that yeah.
Of course.
Of course he he’s got he’s got the frame he’s got to reach um any any.
He can the way the way he fights as well.
He could carry that extra weight.
I believe he probably just needs uh a steady opponent at well weight see see how he handles it and then he, then you know he’s ready.
He he’s ready.
For you know, the top kids are uh welterweight.
I mean he puts in a lot of work to drop weight too to stay at that weight class.
Doesn’T it right now yeah yeah it would you know you just said that he’s 5 10.
So you know when you’re undisputed um, i know people have to say well, you have to fight like you’re the challenger, but you know sometimes you know you’re waking up and you think well what else is there left to achieve for that weight? Class right? You know he’s just gon na go through mandatories and i think to keep his motivation going and also financially as well.
Yeah he’s, probably thinking i can earn more money at the welterweight division than what i can at 140.
.
So it makes sense for him to step up and he there’s some mouthwatering fights um.
Obviously, you’ve got crawford, spence um, the winner of keith berman and in barrios um, which is later this month.
You’Ve got um bhutsena’s virgin ortiz um yeah.
This is some big big fighter.
Oh huge, huge fights there given the uh.
It’S it’s been an argument of mine that i think deontay wilder should just hang up his gloves because of the injury he suffered to his brain that he won’t admit to, but i’m just wondering uh if you have any thoughts on uh comebacks that we might expect In 2022 um well, there will be.
There will be some um.
I think that one of the big things is grim that, because of the pandemic, there’s still been some people who perhaps um haven’t had the opportunity to fight because um because of the pandemic, or you know, and that for some people that manage to stay busy and Stay active during the pandemic: some people, some people, haven’t um, i’m interested to see how uh regis progress comes back.
If you can call it a comeback.
Um, i’m interested to see um how he gets on um.
The just heal effect was close, even though i had josh taylor winning but um.
I think he he could he’s the next best one.
He can make a lot of noise there um, you know, there’s uh, there’s others as well um.
I really want to see how um the uh, not i’m big fans of them, but i want to see how the likes of um the child always do yeah golovkin um.
I want to see that i want to see some more noise at middleweight um.
I know android uh fought um.
He fought quickly, but i like to see how he he um comes back at it, super middleweight um but yeah.
So there’s some and obviously uh keith keith thurman.
That’S that’s the uh dude one for me, um.
That was trying to think of earlier.
I know he’s fighting in it um in a couple of weeks.
I think on the 22nd, i think against barrios.
You know for furman um thurman’s one in another, one um that i want to see in in just to see how well he does sort of there’s a couple agreement that and in in program that you think didn’t get too much of a chance during the pandemic.
But hopefully this coming year we get to see you know what they’re about yeah yeah, definitely definitely uh yeah thurman thurman’s, fighting uh uh barrios on uh uh february 5th, well february.
Is it february all right, yeah february february 5th, so we’ll be able to see him and hopefully that’ll be a nice uh? Coming back after that loss of manny pacquiao yeah yeah um yeah, i think it will um.
You know uh it’d, be money, money’s went and uh retired, but people still want to see what keith firms got left right.
People still want to see what he’s about um.
It was only here two or three years ago, keith thurman was the was the name on everybody’s lips in the welterweight division, so to have him to have him in the mix um also as well in what we want to see.
However, spence bounces back from this latest setback with his eye, so you’ve got to add him in that mixes there as well yeah, there’s a lot of guys that i wanted to come back, but a lot of big things that happened this year.
Uh, i know 2022 is definitely going to be.
I honestly think it’s going to be a kick-ass here.
I think i think boxing is just gon na a lot of these.
A lot of these bottlenecked divisions are going to start to open up those mandatories are going to happen.
The belts have already started changing hands.
Uh.
You know we’re going to see we’re going to see these divisions move and it’s just going to make for exciting fights.
I’M really really happy to you know like there’s a big influx of new heavyweights that are just popping up on the scene that are, you know under 10, fights that are very, very dangerous, guys and uh.
You know they’re just gon na get better and uh and you know, and they’re and they’re becoming super sized man like there’s a lot of these guys.
Now that are, you know, six, eight, six, nine, six, ten and they’re coming out of nowhere and and they got the skills and they can move, and this this is one of those things that you know the heavyweight division has been so lackluster and so boring for So long it’s, i think we need this influx of new new breed of super heavyweights to come in and really just you know, yeah bringing that division back to where it was i’ll.
Give you i’ll give you guys a a tip for the future uh pacquiao jalalov.
Yes, yes, we’ve done them.
Yo you’ve done you’ve done it.
Yeah he’s um this this guy’s, this guy um yeah.
We probably we probably we probably did him uh the day after you told mike about him uh about seven about wait.
Wait, i want to say seven to eight months ago yeah.
I saw this guy in the olympics um and then cutting on the fact that you already have pro fights but um for your listeners.
You you know you need to get watching that guy, because that guy’s gon na do make some serious noises you can go.
You can go ahead and type his name.
If you can spell it otherwise, google, it copy paste, go over to our website.
Put it in the search bar and then you’ll be able to actually find yeah.
You know, yeah, we haven’t done that.
He’S he’s want to watch he’s watching it in mike’s.
Writing is opening up.
You’Ve got the likes of him.
Uh ergovic um jared anderson, big baby anderson um, who people are banging on about um, frank sanchez um just a couple days ago: yeah yeah.
He is the boys from england, um george ice, john joyce, yes, yeah he’s again he’s gon na be in there um.
So one of one of our boys uh called phrase the clock he’s just turned off.
So, although he’s not going to be going through here statement, i got ta say i’ve not heard a single name that you can’t google on uh or not google.
But you can’t talk in fight search, [, Laughter, ].
You can’t search if you’re gon na talk.
If you go to talkandfight.
com and you hit that search bar and you search any one of those names, you are going to find original talk and fight content about that person.
Honestly, you got ta say that you want to think of guys.
You know, there’s still, there’s still uh hargovich, there’s yes sirenko to watch out for uh.
You know we got uh m megamedov, our zlenbeck megamedov, the 69 monster for like there’s, there’s a bunch of guys that we got ta watch out for and they’re and they’re just coming.
Man to take, you know, take their place in this division and just yeah um.
What you were saying before that about divisions, uh bottlenecks, um, you know and getting sorted out.
I mean we haven’t even mentioned the light heavyweight division.
Now canelo looks as though he’s gon na be making some noise there.
So that’s gon na be interesting, um yeah.
I still think the cruiserweight division is going to sort itself out and i’m tipping lorenzo corley to to do well in that division, and i i think i think i think he’s he’s the he’s.
The one that’s flying under the radar uh.
Not do many people know know about him, but uh you know like and the guy’s social media it up.
Man he’s, you know doing his rap thing, he’s doing all this kind of yeah he’s doing it and you know, and then and then, and then you think about it – and you know this this kid who used to be a chubby kid who got bullied was just A monster in the ring man and yeah and people just you know: okay, he’s he’s, got it going on man and – and i i’ve told all the people that watch my show who’ve.
You know this is one guy you got to watch out for in the future.
Man he’s like he’s big big and he can punch um, he you can punch or he he’s him with a chance um and then then you’ve got like the lightweight division to sort itself out um.
When josh taylor moves up, the 140 divisions left there, um yeah.
So there’s this there’s plenty of divisions where you know the late middleweight version as well, that that under um that unified clash to see who’s going to be undisputed between brian castano and um charlo.
That rematch is going to take place this year so that that’s another one as well.
Um yeah, you know we’re going to see some action at middleweight we’re going to see um, possibly if andrade stays at 160.
he’s got a fight uh that janalach who’s.
He here his apparently he’s mandatory and he’s no slouch he’s really a skillful.
That’S going to be a real tricky fight for him if he stays there at 160.
, um, so yeah, it’s it which could be really exciting times.
I can’t wait for this year to i’m super excited.
I’M super excited for this year, boxing man, i think i think the boxing fans are really going to get get what they what they asked for this year.
Man, you know uh, we, these these guys aren’t letting these women show them up anymore.
You know what i mean like the women are getting in there they’re.
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