Friday Night Boxing Panel 51 | Weekly Episode | Talkin Fight

Featuring 2-time heavyweight champion Tim Witherspoon, our group of panelists are always prepared for another weekly roundup of boxing headlines, including updates about boxers from the past and current event news to share with the many fans out there that enjoy the great sport of Boxing!

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Transcribed:

Hey we’re live good evening, boxing fans from around the world thanks for joining us on the friday night panel once again joining me, cedric ben and my co-host on other shows mike gore at four uh.

Well, let’s see friday night panel.

What are we gon na talk about we’re gon na talk about some fights that are upcoming this weekend? Right guys? Yes, yeah! That’S yes, yes, the card weekend yeah and then our good friend tim witherspoon is going to be joining us in about five minutes and he’s going to be bringing on a very special guest as well.

So before he comes on.

Let’S uh: let’s go over what we’ve got to look forward to this weekend? Definitely definitely well.

Let’S talk about uh the first card man up uh is the kid galahad card, all right, yeah, so uh.

We can’t forget about that man against kiko martinez, that’s for the ibf world feather title uh.

We’Ve also got chris of william smith, which is on that card and that is against dylan bergeron and that’s for the ebu european cruiser title and also terry harper is uh.

Putting putting on her belts on the line there, i guess uh with alicia bumgardner yeah, that’s for the wbc world, female super feather title and the ibo world female super feather title and also on the same card.

We have james flint against dom hunt for the break for the vacant.

British central area super light title on the same card, whoa whoa.

What? What was the name of that belt? How many letters? Well: okay, the vacant british central area super like right here, like seven different things on there, yeah wait a minute.

Will you plug this in [ Laughter ], like i told you, uh dante dixon is another name to look out for men he’s looking to improve uh.

His fight record of 5-0 uh, you know and he’s he’s looking to improve and keep that uh, 6-0 and undefeated and he’s going to be facing jordan, mccrory uh and that’s a in a light lightweight title.

Sorry lightweight battle: yeah i mean this card.

This card is really like: it’s it’s.

It’S pretty stacked man.

This kid got back.

Is this the uk card tomorrow yeah uk card guys, starting at 2 p.

m? Eastern standard time, uh, sheffield arena, sheffield, yorkshire, united kingdom uh, commission, yeah yeah.

We got a big one.

Man, promoter, eddie hearn, you can see it on the zone is dennis.

Why hopson has anything to do with it? No, no! Well, i’m just saying i used to stay at his dad house.

They both, i think i told you before they both um.

They both was doing promotions but um their dad got him into the scrap metal they wealthy they wealthy.

So the father was in it and then two sons, andrew and dennis they got in it and made multi multi millions a lot of money.

But then their dad got on the bad side and they were friends with him, but they wouldn’t financially get involved with him.

So i stayed at dennis house when i was training, clinton, woods um in sheffield woods, the light heavyweight you were training yeah i was.

I was me and he had a he had a second trainer.

He was gay second trainer, his name.

I forgot his name, the english guy.

You you remember that guy he’s like stocky.

I don’t i don’t remember.

I just i just remember clinton woods when uh when he fought roy jones, oh right, but he was a good fighter, though like up like he i mean he fought roy jones.

So obviously you know roy did his thing, but uh um.

He was a good fighter.

Definitely a good fighter.

He was loyal to um.

He was loyal to his trainer and um a lot of those boxes over there.

They you know it’s hard to get them like a union or be hard because they lawyers you, you know the contract yeah, you give them a contract, one real, quick one guy.

He had the contract and i said, you’re not gon na.

Take it to attorney.

I might have told you guys already and he said no, i trust him and he signed it right in front of me.

Wow.

Oh you’re, never good man, you never do that.

You got ta, read the fine print man.

I always got ta read that fine friend but loyalty, the kid galahad card, so that’s two o’clock also also.

We got two other cards same night, man, uh monkey and rosado headlining – that that is gon na be a banger, jaime mongia versus gabe rosado.

Yes, that has a potential gabriel.

A new chapter will be added to the classic mexico versus puerto rico.

Rivalry on saturday mongia, who is now 37-0 with 30 knockouts of tijuana mexico, will put his undefeated record in wbo intercontinental middleweight title on the line when he faces off against the warrior king gabriel rosado, who right now has coming off who’s coming off a potential knock Up knockout of the year former uh knockout of the week, alumni yeah, rosado yeah and this fight definitely has the chance has to be like our tour gotti, mickey ward type fight.

So please make sure you you pay attention to that.

One everyone up there.

Yes, there, there there are a ton of uh.

There are a ton of good fights on this card.

Man um a lot of these guys.

A lot of people don’t know who they are.

Is that the main event that that was the main event? That’S that’s the main, also williams, vincent uh, morality, uh for the wba continental america’s light.

Titles are also up for grabs on the same card on this card, though we got uh, we got alejandro reyes, who i’ve talked about uh, he’s 4-0 looking to improve his record and stay undefeated.

Also on this card we got diego de la hoya, who is 22 and one um and he’s going up against jose santos gonzalez, uh, 23, nine and one in a feather in in a featherweight battle.

Is he related to oscar in any way? You don’t hear that last name too often.

I know you don’t please don’t honestly um.

I didn’t even look into it.

Man, i don’t even want to know, if he’s related to oscar because it’ll it it might, it might taint my decision of who i think, might win the match and who i want to win the match.

So i’m not really you know it this this card.

It’S there’s not a lot of uh, not a lot of names on it.

That people know um.

You know, but there are some guys here that got some big records, man that you know that are that are undefeated, so it should make up for a great a great battle man.

You know these mexican cards.

They these guys that kill it uh.

It is promoted by oscar de la hoya golden boy promotions.

Maybe diego de la hoya is related um.

I don’t know man now you guys got me wondering hey yeah.

Now you got me wondering but uh the the card, the card that i’m looking forward to tomorrow.

Night, definitely is the david benavidez versus cairo davis card.

I know i know, there’s no uh, no titles up for grabs on this at all this card, no titles at all, but we have david benavidez, kyron davis.

As the main event.

We got jose benavidez, jr and francisco emmanuel torres as the uh as the as the co-main and then uh yeah man.

We got some.

We got a bunch of undefeated records man on this card.

Um we’ve got mickey scala, 3.

0 farad nagoga 5-0 jesus, abel ibrah, he’s 11-0, and these guys are all looking to stay.

Undefeated somebody’s, oh, must go.

Let’S go and they’ve been and they’ve definitely they’ve been they’ve been paired up with uh, with with good good competition.

Man uh, you know we have a bunch of journeymen that are going to try and uh.

You know let these guys, you know improve their record and uh, we’ll see what happens man honestly.

It should be a great card.

Definitely looking forward to that top fight, though man, the david benavidez, cairo, davis, the main event uh, you know what it’s all going to be, how many? How many punches, can you count man because he just likes to throw them hands like a champ right? Like he’s he’s, definitely he’s definitely got that ability to just keep, throwing and throwing and throwing the man who’s.

The co-main events on those on the on the um on the uh, the david benavidez one and also on the the monkey one who’s, the cole man of it, okay, so um on the benavidez card.

The co-main event is jose benavidez jr, who fought, who fought terence crawford a couple of fights ago, i’m pretty sure uh.

I believe.

Yes, he fought terence crawford back in 2018.

.

That’S how long it’s been wow, okay, benavidez jr hasn’t been in the ring since 2018.

Uh back in october 13th of 2018, when he fought sorry excuse me when he fought terence crawford and uh yeah in in a 12 round and uh.

You know it’s just the way it went.

Man it’s benevitas was down in round 12.

uh yeah.

He didn’t even come up with them, but before that he fought uh, frank roja, so you know he’s he’s been out of the ring a while man, i think ring russ might take a that might be a little bit of a factor.

Man 2018 to 2021.

Being out of the ring, how have you been staying? You know, um, like we had our interview the other day with uh, brandon, barrard and uh.

He said the same thing.

Man, like the only reason why he was not so ring rusty, is because they they kept them in you know they they kept giving them hope that he was gon na have a fight scene, so he kept him and kept training and kept training.

We don’t know how uh benavidez jr did so uh.

It’S definitely gon na be a test uh on that card for sure uh.

Well, he has both of his brothers box.

So i’m assuming they’d just do some random sparring at home.

Anyway, i’m pretty sure they’ve been boxing the crap out of each other for a while.

So you heard a positive ring rush.

Have you heard of positive ring rush before no? What’S positive ring russ chap that’s when real quick? That’S when um a boxer is winning everything getting all the money, uh happy all the time and he gets bored and stops and don’t train as much and then and then and then he don’t look as good and good in this fight.

I i thought that um canelo didn’t look that sharp no like he used it.

I think he knew he was going to beat the guy, so he i don’t think that he’s ring, russ or or or what i just got finished saying: yeah, but tired of winning and not tired of winning winning but just keep on winning, yeah and and and And you know just stop training as much so man.

You know um the guy yeah yeah well well, um, the guy.

When i saw when i looked at the fight, i said he don’t look as sharp as you usually do to you.

Did he look sharp to you he yeah, okay, like he was trying like he was trying extra hard for the knockout early on which kind of throws you off instead of instead of you, know boxing.

I think he was doing what like i.

I did too at certain times.

I know i could get this guy, but i’ll just be throwing everything.

I don’t stick to my traditional stuff yeah and that’s what threw me that’s what woke me up? It’S not his traditional sharpness and everything, and then i said nah.

He probably just taking this one and then when a big one come he’ll, be ready.

Yeah, you hear a lot of fighters say that maybe you can speak on this a little bit too because um, you know my favorite fighter of all time.

Roy jones jr, when he um when he fought antonio tarver, he said you know one of the reasons why he wasn’t.

He said he couldn’t get up for the fight, because you know he was at the height of his career.

You know he cleaned out.

Middleweight cleaned out super middleweight, cleaned out light, heavyweight, moved up to heavyweight, beat john ruiz, and you know that was he should have retired, then at the height of that, but he decided he decided to come back down the light heavyweight and you know cutting 25 pounds Of muscle that that takes a lot on your body and you could see it in his performance but anyway, the reason why i brought it up is because, after the after the fight he said um he he not that he he couldn’t train now that he couldn’t Train as hard, but he wasn’t as into it, because this it wasn’t like a motivating fight for him like it wasn’t like everything on the line.

So, like i see what you’re saying like you know some some fighters, they don’t get up, they don’t like get up for certain fights, yeah yeah.

You know what honestly, i think, canelo’s just really really tired man he’s already he’s already told media.

Don’T expect to see me till may of next year.

He’S already said you know, you know hey of next year, yeah may of next year, go to my like, like, like the next may, coming up, not like two years from now.

No no like next yeah, like next year, like coming up 2022, he said uh he’s gon na take some time and uh recoup man, they’re symptoms, they’re symptoms of what i was just saying.

Yeah you didn’t fight, he did fight uh.

I don’t know what four times this year.

I believe it was so you know it must be really rich.

It’S a pretty hotly contested division, though there’s there’s probably some fights to go on in between now and then yeah yeah, yeah 168.

Definitely yeah that division’s huge man yeah, like i said david benavidez.

I really think this weekend is going to be uh um, a a good.

You know right now, it’s basically it’s it’s! It’S the sweepstakes for the canelo sweepstakes who’s gon na who’s gon na earn their shot at the canelo sweepstakes um.

So all these guys that when they have to prove you know they have to put on good performances to to show that it would be a good fight, so um dave benavidez.

He has a little bit of pressure on him this weekend to uh to to perform.

Not just not just win we’re expecting him to win, but he has to like look good in the win to show to give people a reason to say like okay, this guy could have a shot at beating canelo right, just yeah.

Just for that reason, honestly, honestly, this, this benavidez fight is going to be huge uh.

You know against cairo, davis, it’s it’s! It’S gon na be a great match.

Man uh definitely want to watch what network uh that it’s a show.

It’S a showtime premier, boxing champions live on showtime uh.

That starts.

That starts, i believe, is uh 9 p.

m.

Eastern time same time as the monkey card which is going to be on the zone so we’ll be able to watch both.

Hopefully, you can focus your eyes to two different screens, guys, i know i’ll be doing my damnedest to try and watch both at the same time.

So you know, because we got to report on these knockouts every sunday and i know there’s going to be lots of knockouts this weekend.

Yeah yeah yeah uh.

You wanted to know the undercard for mongia um, so the that’s.

That’S gon na be eric erelli monsino versus jackie calvo, which uh you know what i don’t.

Really those males are females.

The names sound like it right, but uh honestly.

I i believe i believe uh.

It’S gon na get switched around.

I believe it’s gon na be william zapita who’s 23-0 uh versus john vincent um, yeah john vincent, which is for the wba continental america’s light title that should probably be the uh, the undercard or sorry, the co-main event uh with magia and we’re sorry monkey and rosado Uh being the main event, man, which rosato is coming off, that amazing knockout man over um, the bullyman, melicus yeah, victor miranda, that was the big upset and yeah.

That was an upset too, not only like knockout of the week like potential knockout of the year, but it was also probably upset of the year.

So far, oh yeah definitely yeah.

You know damn well put a blemish on his record.

He wasn’t expecting it.

Mellicus is supposed to go in there and just you know, run house, you know, take some kick ass, take some names, kind of thing and uh.

You know what that’s not what happened? Man.

It was face.

First, it was a big big upset man.

He uh.

He went to sleep and he went to sleep in a in a fast fashion.

Man, i’m telling you uh, and you know what that was for the wba um and the wbo uh intercontinental super middle title.

The continental america super middle title and it was also for the vacant wbo international super middle title and uh that ko in the third round man uh.

You know people are still still talking about how uh how exciting it was to watch and uh what an upset that was man, what a big upset.

So what network? What network the um? The problem with me is: i’m behind! I’M behind you know and um, watching a lot of fights, different networks and all that and that that that would be really helpful too too.

For me to um, you know in other boxes too, you know we’re not up to date.

You got everything down, packed and um i’ll.

Just hear oh fight, this play those guys.

I don’t even know i don’t even i might have seen him, but i don’t even you know you right on top of it, and i would like to be on top of stings too.

We need help we’ll give you we’ll give you the passwords for the platforms.

We use so you can watch all the fights with us.

Yeah that’d be nice.

Okay, we’ll do that.

Okay! So that’s what you be doing watching the fights on that on them days all the time.

Man all the time i watch the fights champ and it’s okay right.

I watch it um i search the internet for them and watch him.

I watch him on.

I watch him on twitch.

I watch him on.

You know, links on twitter links in their instagram.

It doesn’t matter, i follow all the fights that i can follow, whether it’s here, whether it’s on the other side of the world yeah, and that’s how i find out these guys and um.

You know that’s how i that’s how i found today’s female man uh that i profiled on female friday uh this uh, this wonderful german girl, who’s, uh who’s, coming up; she’s, tough, oh yeah, she’s, tough man, she’s, tough as nails.

This girl, she’s undefeated germany.

Oh four knockouts man, uh she’s, just been on german soil uh.

Her last name is man men’s and um.

Honestly, she uh be on the lookout for this girl man.

If she uh she finally gets some fights over uh over stateside.

I think she’s uh she’s gon na be a force to be reckoned with.

Man uh she’s got great defense.

You know, she’s got that ability to pull those canelo moves and not be hit and uh.

She.

She knows how to use that jab to set up that thunderous right hand.

She has oh, she got straight straight right hand, oh she’s got that straight right, man and – and you hear it snap and pop, and it’s it’s brilliant and she’s young man she’s in her she’s in her late 20s.

So you know it’s only so we i could see her on youtube.

Oh yeah, you can check her out on youtube shania, my secretary, i’m trying to get this name down.

Let me switch gears for a sec.

Okay.

Did you guys notice that eddie hearns signed another australian boxer to his uh matchroom a heavyweight he signed a heavyweight 19-0 dempsey mckean no way yeah wow, and he made he made a statement uh when he signed up fella.

He said we’re looking to expand into america.

Uh, you know we’re looking at more potential talent from america as opposed to focusing solely on english or uh australian fighters.

You know interesting interests.

There’S the link right there to naomi men’s uh.

You can check there’s her youtube fights right there champ.

If you want to click where you send it, would you send it to you know what we could we’ll i’m going to get the producer to send it to you right now, he’ll send it to your phone on your whatsapp, okay, okay, then you can you’ll like This girl, man, she’s she’s, tough, she’s, tough girl, she’s coming if she old enough.

Oh, she old enough, i’m just playing around i’m just playing around.

You know she old enough to be knocking people out.

I got five daughters, so i respect women.

I got father ain’t.

Nobody better not mess with my babies.

I barely seen their boyfriends yeah.

I wonder today actually and uh, because there’s a couple of uh fights in montreal coming up and one of them features uh two canadian women, and then we were mentioning uh, jessica, kamara and her victory uh last night, the the women, the women, are really coming up.

Strong and only a friend of ours, i’m going to try to get her back on the show she had her fight.

I believe that was last night as well um.

This girl, naomi manz she’s fighting tonight uh over in germany, so i definitely definitely hope she stays undefeated naomi menz yeah check her out check her out.

Champ you’ll, like her she’s, got that ability she’s got that ability she’s got that punching power and she’s fast.

Now i know you mean boxing wise and all that i’m too old to be i’m just trying to naomi men’s, how you spell a last name: m-a-n-n-e-s, yeah, okay, i got it yes, naomi okay! I got you perfect.

I got you.

I’M gon na check that out.

Hey, i’m not trying to i’m not trying to know i’m hey, i got i got to make sure you have today i got to make money.

I got to make money, take care of me and the kids they all that other stuff.

All that other stuff is crazy.

It’S not crazy! I just i’m more interested in doing better.

That’S all yeah! Absolutely i’m not no pervert! You have five daughters, big news, yeah good news, uh maddie harris has agreed to come in um and uh and and join us for an interview.

I’M trying to set it up for next week guys to stay guys out there watch out for knuckle up.

Man, we’re gon na get maddie harris, uh six foot, eight new heavyweight, six foot, eight new heavyweight.

Remember we were talking about him a couple of weeks back uh sleeping in the caravan in his trainer’s driveway, mr six foot, eight uh yeah.

He uh he enjoyed the segment that we did on him.

He’S gypsy he’s gypsy! No! No! No! No! Well! You said, sleeping in caravans do he’s doing that just to survive just just to get.

You know just to get it there and do what he needs to do: uh.

Okay.

6-8: kid: the 6-8 kid is dedicated, he’s a big boy uh and there’s a lot of these guys that we’ve been talking about over the last little while man that uh there’s these monsters that are just starting to start to come out of the woodwork now and Who are just starting to debut in the heavyweight division uh that heavyweight division is soon gon na, be nothing but a bunch of tall big monstrous guys.

Man, these guys are all i don’t know man, i don’t know what they’re putting in the food these days, man but they’re.

Definitely uh they’re, definitely making kids huge these days, man.

So speaking of the heavyweights, one of the other news items that popped up this past week was the fact that anthony joshua and the uc camp are actually now negotiating where they’re going to have their rematch, and that opens up the door for tyson fury to fight Dillian white sometime next year so that heavyweight the top end of the heavyweight division’s gon na shake out a bit dylan’s tough dylan, listen, i’m gon na tell you something all dylan need is to tighten his defense up.

I’M telling you i was over there with dylan.

I was over there in this training camp uh watching him and talk to him he’s a nice guy he’s a really nice guy.

Dylan white would have beat joshua if his defense was tight.

He got caught with that shot.

Yeah dylan, yeah, dylan dylan.

I was impressed with his heart and, and he just needs some more skills – defense.

That’S all these guys needs tyson, fury and josh.

I mean tyson fury and uh dante, while they both went down twice something wrong with their defenses yeah, something wrong with their defenses.

They both went down twice and three times.

I don’t understand, getting shot and go down a couple of times because how you go down you know so.

Yeah yeah tighten that defense.

If, even if joshua tightened his defense up, joshua or or or um dylan white, it’s going to change the way things are, i’m telling you he don’t get hit as much, but he punch and everything and he got tyson fury in them just casually going around like This fake and you got dante, wander like this [ Laughter ], i’m telling you it’s just a matter of not getting hit right, i’m just watching them, man, i’m telling you.

I don’t know if you guys heard and any all the people out there watching.

I don’t know if you’ve heard yet uh the news clarissa shields will be jumping back in the ring.

Yeah um, looking very excited for that one man, uh goat, uh, boxing’s.

First, ever undisputed world champion of two weight divisions has signed a multi-fight seven figure deal along with her longtime promoter, salida promotions with broadcaster, sky sports and the next generation promoter.

Boxer box has been doing big things.

We uh.

We did a whole week, actually graham uh, on knuckle up where i uh, i featured a bunch of uh new and up-and-coming fighters to watch out for who have all been picked up by boxer, uh boxers doing big things.

They’Ve just got this deal done uh.

This is gon na be great man.

Um undefeated, three division world champion shields 11-0, will enter the ring in the welsh capital city uh in a mandatory defense of her wbc world middleweight title uh, in which she will also put her wba, ibf and wbf titles.

On the line against the 26 year old from flint michigan, no she’s, the 26th from flint, sorry, yes, the 26 year old from the michigan will defend the previously unbeaten.

Then ibf world super welter champion marie ev decare.

We were talking about that.

That’S huge things can’t wait to see this.

One uh shields is the only one of eight fighters in the four belt era to have been an undisputed champion.

You know not one, but two divisions, man she’s the only one ever what’s the date for the for that show uh.

I believe it’s december, the uh 11th december, the 11th and that’s she’s a co-main event right.

There’S someone else fighting that night.

I believe there is somebody else running on that same card yeah, it’s cardiff right in cardiff, there’s some there’s some welsh champion going up against some english champion that night right right.

So it’s gon na, be it’s gon na, be a big car man.

I can’t wait to see this flint flint michigan’s in the house again eh, let’s see what the goat can do, larissa she uh special fighter.

She actually fought on one of our club shows when she was an amateur like one of her first couple of a couple of matches.

She um she’s, you know she’s, taking on emma kozin, who is uh 20, who whose record right now is, is 21-0 uh with one draw uh the the headline event on that so far, what i’m seeing is eubank jr versus liam williams and okay, that’s gon na! Be uh, that’s looking like the main event for that for that card, yeah, so uh yeah.

Definitely definitely some big things going on in the boxing world.

It’S getting to that.

You know that time.

It’S end of the year right we got ta, we got ta tie up all those loose ends.

Uh, you know a lot of these camps.

They don’t want to enter 2022 with any loose ends.

They want everything tied up so that they can keep that game plan and their fighters on those tracks to those uh.

Those title events – man, i even noticed – there’s a fight on that december 25th christmas morning, no rest, no rest for the wicked man, they’re uh, wow, they’re, they’re, keeping them going and then you’re two days before birthday cool.

You know what the funny thing is is we were talking about this earlier, not not just boxer, but other companies like pro balum universe, some there’s there’s some big companies emerging in the sport uh that are taking on these young guys taking them up through the rankings And i think the landscape is going to change next year.

Um, you know we’re gon na we’re gon na see.

Yes, we’re gon na see top rank and golden boy and uh eddie hearn’s matching company continue to do well, but i think they’re gon na see a lot of competition for these new young up and coming management companies who are taking on some really good fighters.

Oh okay, creating lots of fun, creating lots of opportunity for uh potential trainers in the market.

Do you guys do you guys things callister, uh clarissa? If she’s hype all the time? What do you think like tyson was hyped? Remember tyson was hype.

She’S got that same energy right, controlled aggression, controlled aggression, controlled aggression, she’s ready to do it and she’s ready to do it.

Big and she’s ready for she’s ready for women’s boxing to make that statement that you know it needs to really make and that’s uh.

The point to where we stop calling it women’s boxing and she’s down for that man and uh she’s definitely she’s definitely set records man.

You know, there’s that uh there’s nobody else.

Who’S been an undisputed champion in two in two weight divisions.

Well, who who’s waiting for? After assuming she, she wins who’s waiting for.

Is it savannah marshall? Oh yeah, i believe so.

You’Ve been trying they’ve been trying to get that fight going forever because savannah marshall was the only person to beat her, and i think that was at the olympics.

Yeah! No one’s demonstrating the olympics, the only person that beat her um, but you know savannah the olympics.

Are you sure i don’t think cause liv? She won two gold medals.

I don’t think she lost, but [ Music ], my bad sorry guys out there.

Mr fact checkers.

I lost in the i lost in the amateurs in the in the amateurs, but when i turned pro it was, it was much easier.

It was much easier, you know so, like you fought like, i put marvis frazier into amateurs, and he had way more experience than me.

But then, when i turned pro and got those skills right, i don’t think they wanted to um.

You know uh have a fight with me, but they did.

We did fight in the at my um.

My fifth amateur fight was my fifth yeah quick question: what could you um just briefly explain uh the difference that you saw between amateur and and uh and turning pro like how? How did you have to change your style, or what did you have to switch up to get ready to to fight pro okay um? I think a lot of things slowed down, uh we’re in amateurs.

We had to be real, throw a lot of punches and – and i wasn’t even an amateur a year yeah i was just only had seven fights so maybe a year in a couple of months.

I was in amsterdam so, but i knew that every yeah i only had seven amazing fights, i had five wins and two losses: um and – and you had to throw a lot of punches, to impress the judges.

You know we’re in school we’re in school, but when you turn pro, it’s more technique to me was more technique getting out of the way of punch and delivering a punch, whereas, though, when you just had to throw punches and um, let me see i don’t know If there’s a lot of other people were concentrating on a lot of defense, it was mostly like throwing punches, but when you turned pro when i turned pro, i was slowed down so uh um.

So so you know i can miss the punch and deliver and then just be on time with my punches, instead of just throwing them anywhere.

So it was a big difference.

So you focused more on uh on on developing your defense too, because it seemed like a lot of the a lot of the people from that generation.

Just focused on entertaining the crowd and just you know, taking one to give two um, but you know obviously the reason why you lasted that long and the reason why you can still talk normal today.

I don’t know about that.

No, i do i i no.

I i do talk.

I do i’m.

Okay, i’m okay and everything um, but um.

I was glad that slim did teach me defense.

He took taught me how to keep man until i kept telling me keep my hands up um, where a lot of a lot of trainers was out there saying um, um speed will beat anything like you know, hit or don’t be hit.

What was the best defense is offense and late.

I didn’t know what that was then, but now i’m looking at him saying: that’s, not correct.

No, no, no you’ll get if you want to throw those punches just to keep somebody from hitting you.

Oh that’s hard.

It’S hard, so i found out that a lot of trainers say that, because they’re not really good at defense, that’s right, yeah yeah! Exactly so they just say that because they can’t teach this.

What happened in the old past young gym, where i was um right down there near the italian market, where, where sylvester stallone made the movie? That’S where i went yeah, that’s why i first went and um and you know, there’s a lot of knowledge in there.

Jimmy arthur and uh slim robinson, oh peg, leg baked.

He was one of the old guys, yeah yeah and you see and it was the rocky did he make the movie there.

No, i don’t think he did.

He went up.

He went up in the northeast and did it, but i think they was going to do the old past junk gym so yeah.

It was pretty cool experience.

I just i just read that they’re re-releasing uh rocky iv.

I think that was the one where he faces.

The big rocks yeah, i heard them, say something right on the radio before it came about an hour.

So that’s what it’s about! No, that’s! What it’s about right! So it’s still in the headlines! Yeah! They was talking about sylvester, stallone uh right before me, and shania came home, hey isn’t joe frazier from philadelphia too.

No, i’m the only heavyweight champ born there, ollie’s from louisville and joe, is from south carolina, but i love them both.

I love them.

Both they lived there ollie lived on like the suburbs and joe lived in.

I think joe lived on outside too, but his gym was inside.

Um ollie had his camp up in the mountains, but i was born there.

So y’all guys got to give me some credit, but i was born there right in south philly right where the um right, where the uh uh the italian market.

I told you this before right in italian market right 10 minutes walk just walk right to the italian market: italians, irish, jewish uh, all types of people – you know where i was from right near the football stadium so with the new rocky that you guys were talking About okay, um, i did a quick.

I did a quick little research because you know what i had to um.

So what it is is is a re.

It’S a re-release, 40 extra minutes has been added, it’s an extended director’s cut and it’s being shown in theaters for one night, only yes uh november the 11th and it’s available for rent on demand november 12th, wow, so yeah and i just was trying to real quick.

I was just trying to get involved and i met him.

I met him.

I was i was.

I walked the carpet with him one time i was just trying to just get me in somewhere in that movie, i’m the two-time everywhere from philly.

Yes, sir, you should have been in that man, you didn’t get a camera huh.

My son did.

My son did yeah.

My son was in there.

They put him in there in the in in the gym like boxing in the background, but they could use me.

Man come on do another one.

Just give me five minutes.

That’S all just give me five minutes.

Give me five minutes.

I sat i sat with him and michael hasselhoff and the thing man.

It was nice – and i told you guys already and and uh and that girl, the girl and arnold aren’t what no no no willis willis and the girl yeah anymore.

Is that her name yeah well? Well, i don’t know who’s married to nowadays, but no, no, no willis and the girl that played on that that show different strokes.

The girl there was willis, it was arnold, willis and the girl.

Oh you talk about those guys being a plato yo this sir.

That’S her yeah, that’s her and, and i was with them, it was cool.

It was cool.

We had fun yup arnold, wasn’t there young, whatever they call his name.

What’S his name, i can’t remember his name: either see what was that little fella’s name.

Well, he’s probably a big fella.

Now maybe i can’t believe that michael hasselhoff was really nice.

He was cool, we were in there and um.

He was really nice.

We were talking to him and and uh uh sly.

He was cool too, but uh.

Everybody was all on them and and the previews in a big big uh suite they had all kind of food and drink.

I was like this is what the this is, what those guys be doing, huh having all that fun.

It might look like you guys are talking about gary coleman by the way, gary coleman did.

He pass away yeah gary coleman.

He wasn’t near though it was.

It was uh willis and the girl what you talking about willis yeah, if you’re googling, stuff google, whether joe frazier made a cameo in one of those rocky movies, [ Music ], i’m 99 positive.

He did, i think he did.

I think he did i’m pretty sure he made a cameo in uh, like i think he was just sitting like ringside or something i believe yeah, i believe so yeah.

I think he did.

You found something: uh, yes, uh joe frazier made a cameo appearance and sylvester stallone’s hit [ Laughter, ], and then the movie used a couple of frasier’s training habits, uh that have been turned into iconic scenes.

When frasier was younger, he worked at the slaughterhouse, where he would punch sides of beef which became a training scene in the movie yeah.

He did that yep, they showed him doing it, hitting the meet right and everybody in philly knew everybody know it wow.

You know.

I said man, maybe we should go there and try to people actually tried to do that.

My dad my dad was a butcher for many many years and it’s it takes.

You know those signs of beef are big and heavy man.

I’M telling you i’ve moved them around.

As you know, as a younger man and uh you know to move around now is is huge.

That’S why that’s why they don’t um they don’t they they’re all broken up with major small sections.

They don’t bring them, they don’t bring them like that anymore, but yeah man, size of beef, is crazy.

That’S uh! That’S some big things, man and to know that that’s real, that’s real! That’S the real thing! You know what i mean you figured.

You figured some of you guys do stuff for movies, but no that’s cool well is is, is, is drinking uh raw eggs, a thing dude, oh god, man did you remember that my goodness remember that scene in rocky he was drinking wrong drink when he drinks the Cup of raw eggs, that can’t be good.

That can’t be good for you and then goes for and then goes for a 10 mile jog or something yeah with 10 miles.

Let me do something.

Sorry i i i would have been hey.

I would.

I would have been barfing all over myself as i was asking uh.

You know our boxing coaches and trainers, whether that’s a thing or not, or that was just what what did you say? What did you say, drink drinking raw eggs it used to be.

You know i tried that stuff i threw up well, i can’t eat raw eggs.

I can’t eat more eggs.

Even i can’t eat the yellow, a lot of yellow, but when you, if you, if they’re, not cooked all the way, i’ll vomit and my mom, all my family too, for some reason nope, nobody can eat them.

Eggs like like bro yeah yeah, i mean the purpose.

Is is there are many uh and nutrients and antioxidants found in raw eggs? It’S a protein too right.

It’S the number.

One thing is the protein, but i mean you can get your protein in other ways than the problem.

The problem is, you can also give yourself salmonella poisoning right.

So that’s that’s a big thing.

That’S a big thing like i know, a teacher that i went to high school with that uh.

He used to eat that raw egg thing and he pushed us away from that man for all the well the people that were on the sports teams, who were talking about stuff like that he’s like listen man, you don’t want salmonella poisoning, you don’t want to be Crapping out stuff out of your butt that was like it was very bad.

He said so i’ll just push the turn.

I’M sorry! I was a paternity like keep talking, keep talking about it, i’m not down for the raw eggs, i’ll uh i’ll cook when you need them that way.

So how do they? How do they overall eggs? We were talking about a fighter today and he dropped something like 25 pounds and you’re thinking to yourself.

I can gain 25 pounds pretty easily, but how do you? How do you lose 25 pounds? Well, first of all, you can you can sweat 10 pounds out in a sauna in a sweatsuit in a couple hours seriously yeah you can like you’re leaving well, no real, quick, no, no real quick! I saw ali ali.

This is when i first saw you know.

Abilene, clean cream, abilene cream, they used to take makeup off it’ll, make you sweat, everybody was doing it, ollie was getting it, and – and i would everybody would buy and rub it on your body and put clothes layers of clothes and, and you lose a lot more Water abilene, you never did that you never you ever do it.

I never tried it exactly if you don’t have abilene vaseline works too, but abilene’s the best.

Oh bad, but but vaseline is too thick and it keeps your pores and they take a while for your sweat.

This is what i was told if you put vaseline on vaseline, is heavy and strong and and i’m gon na take a while before your pores are open, but abilene um abilene is thin, it’s thin and it cleans you.

It’S a cleanser, it’ll clean you when you put it on so when you put it on you, sweat right away: oh yeah, wow other than that sweatsuits man and saunas or uh garbage garbage bags under your tracksuit uh.

That’S dangerous! That’S dangerous too! It is dangerous! You got to be, you got to be very careful when you do that stuff, because you can put holes in the bag put holes in the bag.

Definitely, definitely you can overheat over exert yourself.

You can give yourself, you know, you can do yourself some damage, but you can easily drop 10 pounds in a sweat session.

Man um, if you’re in there to spawn it’s dangerous, that’s dangerous! It’S dangerous! It’S dangerous! It’S very dangerous, but uh people do it.

Man.

I was talking about a boxer today on the news.

Uh news show about uh uh.

He was talking about his previous fight and basically, what had happened was he had dehydrated himself so much that he was suffering from kidney failure in the brain and they had to take the horse.

He stayed three days in the hospital.

He was near death because he dehydrated so much to the point where he couldn’t even fight anymore.

They were winning the early rounds, he lost the later rounds, fight ended in a draw, he was saying uh but, more importantly, he was uh in on a stretcher and out to a hospital within minutes after his fight the worst thing about the worst thing about the Dehydration is i mean the second worst thing is that it takes away the the water from your muscles.

That’S why you feel weaker, but the number one thing the number one thing: the number one thing is that it takes away from the liquid in your brain, like your brain needs that liquid so like when you’re dehydrated, you know, there’s not as much water in you.

So, like you know just little things, you don’t think straight and in a sport like boxing, when you need your reflexes and reaction time, you need to be able to think straight right.

So um, that’s! Why that’s why? Dehydration is not good for your performances.

So, let’s go back to my question: how do you cut with it go ahead? That’S why weight was no i’m curious.

How do you cut weight like if you’re, if you’re, if you’re being trained professionally – and it’s not a question of just simply sweating it out? How do you cut weight? Go ahead, tim i’ll go.

Second, i think we’ve lost his mic.

Oh yeah! I’M here you guys are all frozen.

Actually you guys are i’m actually looking at the funniest three pictures.

I’Ve ever seen of you guys ever really i’m frozen too yo cedric cedric you’re frozen, like you were the other night when you were taking that nap during watching live.

Yo tim tim’s got his hand up protected, like he’s about to just throw a punch in somebody’s mouth and graham you’ve got such a serious face.

You’Re, like you hear my audio, because i can’t hear tim, i can hear you guys now there you go you’re starting to move so see you start to move.

Now, honestly, the only person that’s frozen.

The only person that’s frozen for me is tim.

You guys i got people here now.

I think i think he got upset and he gave him hey there.

He goes.

Oh there we go he’s back.

Okay, he’s there.

We can still hear him.

It’S good! No he’s! Okay, it’s okay! You can explain it yeah! No! Now we can hear you no you’re good, now, you’re good, now, you’re good, now, you’re good enough, justin tim! No, you got ta explain about weight because you were lighter weight and i really all we did was train all day chat would uh work out stuff.

I think you better more.

You can explain more about the weight losing uh as far as as far as cutting weights.

You want to first of all, do it safely.

So, hopefully you know, you know you um.

As a professional, you know you’re going to know months ahead of time.

Your fight is a little bit hard as an amateur, because you can get called at any time for a club show.

You can call next week for a club show so for amateur.

I try to tell the boxers to not get more than 10 pound.

Well, the you know the 18 and up one like that: the seniors, the little kids you don’t want to make little kids be cutting weight and stuff like that um, but the older ones.

I try to tell them: don’t try not to get more than 10 pounds over your weight because other than if you more than 10 pounds like if you’re in training camp, then it’s more so you’re more so you know they call it a fat camp.

You know you know: you’re not really working on your skills, you’re, just working to get off weight, you’re, not working on actual skills.

Now some boxers will say that they use train training camp to get into shape but like, if that’s the case, that that might work.

But your skills are always going to be the same like you’re, just you’re, never going to improve, like what you are is always going to be.

The same thing meanwhile like, if you can focus if you can get down to a good weight and focus more on your skills, each fight, you should be improving a little bit for for your career, as opposed to just you know, uh gaining 30 pounds and have To worry about getting losing 30 pounds in three months for your fight, um right and that’s when guys wait to the last second have to lose 10 pounds in a couple of days, and you have to starve yourself wear garbage bags um.

You know all things that get you dehydrated, so the safe way is to cut out, obviously cut out the junk food and stuff like that, but the cut out the extra carbs so that you want to have extra protein.

So you know the chicken and turkey and stuff like that that that has to be a mainstay because as you’re losing weight, you still want to maintain your muscles and the protein is for your muscles.

So you can cut down everything else, but water and protein is one of the number one things that need to need to stay.

Consistent, uh, you know the carbs.

Will you know cut out the the start, basically cut it out, but cut it down like the bread? The pasta stuff like that, the heavier carbs you can still have, but just have smaller portions and that’s the other thing portion size, yeah man.

You want to try like everyone.

Everyone has the idea of not to eat late at night, but no one really understands the reason why.

The reason why is because, at night time like when you eat food, just getting up and walking around that’s your metal? Your metabolism is working to break down the food into your body to break down your body when you eat late at night.

What do most people do? You’Ll come home, eat a big meal, sit in front of the tv and then just go to bed and fall asleep right.

So you’re not doing anything to work that off so the next day when you’re working out you’re working out the food from the day before so going back to portion sizes, whether just keeping a simple breakfast lunch and dinner, you want to try to have your bigger Meal earlier in the day, have a medium-sized lunch and a smaller dinner that way, you have the whole day to burn off the the food that you’re eating, and so at night time you have that small man, you won’t get hungry at night, because a lot of People complain say that they get.

You know hunger cravings at night time.

That’S because you didn’t eat enough during the day.

If you ate enough during the day, then you wouldn’t have those hunger cravings at night time something wrong again: oh no! No! We’Re going! No! No! No we’re good we’re good we’re good we’re good oops.

Honestly i found i found with well like dropping.

I’Ve dropped huge weight to get in a ring.

You know i.

I went from 336 pounds to 155 and wow whoa.

Wait, wait, wait you! You was 155 yeah man.

I got pictures of it brother, i i was competing.

How tall are you how tall how tall i’m five, eight, okay, okay, so yeah man? I dropped to 155? How i did it man? I worked out literally six or seven days a week, but it was all about portion control, uh, knowing your sizes of portions cutting out your sugars, your starches, your alcohols, which is good alcohol, is a big one.

Um i weighed my food man.

I weighed my food.

I made sure that i ate eight ounces, eight ounces of greens with every single meal.

I made sure that i used you know non-creamy dressings, always like an oil-based dressing.

Um, i didn’t i didn’t use, you know no butters, no margarines, i you know and and just kept i kept it really clean um.

You know no pop, nothing like that, no juice, just strictly water and uh.

You know the weight.

Just you know it was just shredding off, shreds off, and you know it’s all about portion control man as long as you can create the right kind of portion and and stick to that and and learn to be sufficient off, that you’ll be fine.

The weight will just drop off.

It’S just curving, it’s curving the overeating habits because everybody overeats right like uh one serving of protein, everybody believe.

Oh you know.

I get a chicken breast, a boneless, skinless chicken breast.

That’S actually two servings of protein.

That’S not just one! So it’s learning your portion control right, like one three and a half ounces of protein is equal to once one protein serving right.

So if you’re supposed to have a protein with dinner, yeah take that chicken breast you want to lose some weight and butterfly and cut it in half and take that boneless skinless breast and make it into two meals.

Things like that and when you start when you start to learn that you can actually fill yourself up with better stuff other than breads and starches and sugars, and all that yeah it just starts to fall off man.

Don’T worry, cedric you’re going to see you’re going to see when we start training brother.

I got you oh you’re, going to start training, huh we’re going to start training and then i’m gon na come see you tim and then we’re gon na start training hey.

I would love to i trained every i uh today i only ran okay.

I ran 30 minutes on the treadmill twice yesterday and today, but you know i’ve been.

I have been having things you know.

I’Ve been doing a lot of things but um.

I was eating.

Oatmeal and pasta in the same day – and i found that that was a no-no – two stars yeah.

I was doing that, but i really never had.

I really had a problem with the weight and my trainer told me to start drinking alcohol.

I mean start drinking like drink a beer, if you, if you know, if you get yeah, he just told me to take a beer, and i started drinking here um.

Why didn’t? Instead of eating? He was telling you to drink beer to not get more hungry.

Yo beer barrel curve your appetite quick time.

Bro beer occurs your appetite quick time.

Why do you think these alcoholics out there? Today? Men don’t eat bro? It’S because you know they drink that beer and that beer is good enough.

Yeah, no beer, beer beer is one of those things man.

I tell you right now.

If you cut beer out and you don’t even work out and you’re overweight, you will drop 20 pounds in the first month that you stop drinking beer.

That’S that’s how dangerous it’s crazy from the friday night panel for health tips from the friday night panel, as as i crack a beer, [ Laughter, ], oh and tim’s face is frozen perfectly for that answer.

Right now.

Oh, that’s! Classic! That’S classic! I know it is classic looks like we had a looks like we had a guest come in from cuba.

Is that the cuban flag that fellow’s showing us you know puerto rican? Ah yeah big, big, big puerto rican day, i guess um yeah, you back you back! Champ oh looks like we lost him again.

He left maybe his phone died.

We kicked him out.

Don’T worry we’re going to see him on the 21st.

We’Re going to go, see him on the 21st we’re gon na we’re taking a trip down to windsor uh.

It’S going to be the first time that our knockout of the week award show is going to be done.

Uh he is, he took a drink before he when he took a drink.

He took a drink.

Cedric said so.

I guess paul.

I i guess paul.