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EPISODE: Episode 3
David is joined by a promoter and former kickboxer Steve Kalakoda.
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Transcribed:
I’M the former wbf International Super Federal champion and former WPF.
All Africa live Channel, [ Music ] evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to another awesome, exciting show on ringside talk this evening with your host David rajuli.
Today I’ve got a very special guest, a man.
That’S been around the world promoting fights, promoting Fighters, managing Fighters with the lovely history in kickboxing and in boxing he had uh as a pro 36 fights.
26 wins 16 of those came by Kos and eight losses in his kickboxing career.
He went on to have 20 fights 10 losses in his amateur boxing career.
He had 10 fights, nine win and one loss he’s managed and promoted many great Fighters around the world, especially South Africa.
He has managed to put me on the map winning one of these titles.
Behind me, the all-africa champion I’d like to introduce you the one and only I call him Papa Steve from catacola promotions, Steve caraconda, pretty much David uh, it’s really nice to see what you’re doing in box here belted back.
There is really giving you when you’re, promoting boxing – it’s not just what the boxes do at the, but it’s also so they can win as many belts as possible.
But it’s when you’ve been promoted to know what they’re doing after boxing and I’m really happy after boxing, and I wish you all the best.
Thank you very much Papa Steve.
Thank you very much for watching the viewers.
Don’T know, I call you papa Steve uh.
You would like a father to me in my boxing career, I think for three four years when I was living in Cape Town, but we will get uh to that story later on um stop by Steve.
I called you onto the show today um.
Firstly, I would like you to please just tell the viewers who you are, and I’ve told them a little bit about you.
Just uh who Steve Kita kind of Coda is: where are you from where you were born and just a little bit about yeah? Who you are where you from and your Early Childhood well, I was born in Cape Town and of the in the description actually from the age of one to about and um it uh.
It was actually in District.
Six uh got my first introduction to boxing.
So my boxing career, the really took off when I joined the knife, a physical instructor in the Navy when I was 22 years old and I was introduced to boxing on a higher level but the energy level years.
Then after I, after my fingers and amateur, I afford some of the best and images South Africa produce the late basil Thomas.
I thought Brett Taylor, who was the iPhone retailer three times? Yes, I remember one in the city hall in Durban.
It was the first ever you won the fight, he was a brilliant boxer and he was voted best.
So in my amateur career, that was one of my highlights to fight something somebody like Stephen Durban City, so so yeah, my uh, both in the Navy Navy.
Being a sports officer, you have to learn and doing sporting events, atletic events, boxing events and the trade to when I left the Navy to become a professional boxer yeah.
That was the beginning.
For me, oh wow, that’s very amazing, Papa Steve! So what I’m hearing from you is during a time in the Navy you had your amateur and during that time is when you actually started to learn about promoting.
As you say, you were doing little bit shows in the Navy already, so that was getting you uh prepared for for going into manage uh, promo promotion properly and I’m very happy for all the hearing, which was very good for me about my organization.
When I became a professional promoter it was, it was my apprenticeship, here’s your apprenticeship, you you did in the in the Navy.
Um! That’S actually that’s very amazing.
I, as you were saying as well.
You were doing that before you went on to become a professional.
I never became a fox because I had more than 100 any future fights.
You know.
I go to South Africa age of 32 about a hundred people who, just over 100 amateur Fighters – and you know with everybody in two or three days you can.
You can have a lot of Fighters on any children which help is approved.
I’M a professional because I was in the in the military.
I had a very good job by the Sun to the end of my house.
I had three minutes so I didn’t need.
I didn’t want to become a professional, I was happy, but I think it’s an amateur.
I remember fighting uh in Johannesburg.
I should and uh at any official events, no four, three four five thousand people it was.
It was like a pro all.
The fights were high quality because you’re fighting again I’ve just made mentioned the late National Thomas of not just mentioned you don’t finally function.
I don’t fall back.
All those guys were ages teachers, those years so the qualities with extremely high.
At that time, yes, I could only imagine uh at that time.
Even those names you just said, you know uh good Fighters, um even heterophobic.
You know even Brett Taylor.
We grew up in South Africa hearing about those kind of Fighters.
You know, and it must have been very, very uh entertaining and uh very good at around those times.
Did you ever see the other thing? You know the good thing about those years was this 70s were all amateur boxes, South African Champions.
They were all very good and those years ahead over 80, maybe 100.
155, why the standard of watching those years were very high.
Like Brian Mitchell, you look at Corey Saunders, you look here.
You look at Francois out of those names and I’ve just mentioned now.
They are three champions and they didn’t win.
A major type Harry was a WBA world champion uh called the WBO former heavyweight champion IDF.
All three of them won those titles outside of South Africa standard in the security of boxes and right.
Brian Mitchell was one of our best and he also the long days.
This is not the case you know, so I think that’s.
That is because men and women can become professionals without having say any.
They don’t even have to have some of them.
Don’T have to have an energy electrified yeah, so that’s the reason why they are boxed and if you look at every boxing at the moment in South Africa, we we don’t have Olympic.
If somebody wins a common or something would be very lucky if they’re going to win, so I I think you know for me, I think fourth is an amateur in that time.
I think something needs to be done in South Africa, the level of energy production, and then we will get good professionals like the ones.
I hear you Steve.
I hear you Steve.
I just want to ask you quickly: uh, if you can choose, maybe reset your your screen quickly, so that we’re having a bit of feed break.
If you can just reset uh your window quickly, Steve one second and then in the studio, they could play the intro there for us please quickly, while we reset you, okay, guys, I’m just speaking to Mr Steve caracota and uh he’s just resetting he’s he’s browser.
So we can hear him a bit more terror.
Steve is one of the uh all-time great promoters in South Africa.
He promoted me for one of my belts here behind me for the all-africa title: uh we’re gon na catch up with him now here more of what he has to say very interesting that he was in the army, doing amateurs and, while being in the Army.
Okay, did we go much better? Yes, you’re! Happy, yes, 100 times better, Steve! Okay! Yes, bits are better! Yes, man, so you were telling us about the different uh with the levels with the amateur boxing back in those days and what you’re having now – and you touched on something very nice with it’s like also look like he gave me something to think about that back.
In the days you said, the amateurs had mostly over 50 to 80 amateur fights before they turned professional these days.
Anyone could turn professional, as you say, and you say you don’t have the same same skills of fights Fighters as you did back in the day.
Can you continue with that? For us, please Steve, very interesting, yeah.
You know you you’re 50.
, those years if a fighter gets to the to represent industry in the national championships, 50s 55, which is almost you will have Fighters that win.
That had an opportunity unless you knock out in your own problems before you go to the National Championship, you can do it, but most Fighters that represented their provinces, we’re fighting.
So my point is the the organization almost every week, yeah and those years image of boxing was now.
Thank you.
It was a school when you go from Cape Town.
You go up those years to the trans, violent fight, the boys that they’ve already had 20 fights man or for you they already had uh me they’ve already had 15 fights.
I took my son up to the South African championships as a junior.
He fights and he ended up fighting about the finals as well, with the weight of the junior Division and after that it was 16 years old there, not long after that became a professional boxer.
That is uh I mentioned tonight.
They have a very good boxer and uh, but if you was asking people before he became a professional, probably more than that, so that was the the difficult now you know if we can get lift the standard of well, it would automatically the standard of a professional Boxing will be bad there’s.
Another important point is the organization of tournaments in the 70s tournaments were held at schools, Saturday nights and it was well attended.
It was well organized, oh, I can’t say if that is the case now yeah.
Maybe it’s not the case.
That’S why and but I think, if we can, I’m sure they can do something about that and the boxing will go.
I just want to make another point for you quickly.
Yes, you know many years Mike Bernardo and Julie claim beachy.
I don’t know if you’ve heard about the one in Mexico about it we’re the best the best fighters in Mexico, so they come out of what they want Tijuana.
They came to Faith Church in in San Diego and we drove away.
I stayed there for a week and what I noticed in Mexico in that was that, if the municipality in that City actually [ Music ] a Community Hall, that was a boxing with you every Community – or they were maybe 150 kids a professional boxes together.
The most important point – the municipal coaches they’re in every every session that I went to wise boxing so strong in Mexico and and and it was you till six o’clock at night later afternoon.
The professional but the whole whole day thing and the same coaches are playing.
The premise which explain the problems, foreign ers, the the city, the walls where they are playing and on Friday night same facilities, are used by professional up and coming professional promoters, and you know the municipality we’re hoping promoters, so the municipalities is is helping.
The professionals.
Professionals are helping the amateurs, so everybody municipality was helping everybody.
You know all that that Community Home were paid for, but I was paying these guys.
So they said no everybody.
That’S here.
They’Re Training, Fitness coaches are paid by the municipality.
The whole.
Everything belongs to the minister, so if you imagine, if we have something like this in this country, the base boxes the baseball yes and it’s just, we produce the best professionals.
I think that is something in South Africa that we can look at the standard of boxing.
It is professional and amateur boxing, these hundred percent hundred percent steep 100.
Now, with going back to um you going as a promoter, Steve uh, as you said, from the Army, you know you started doing your promotion.
Do you remember when your first proper uh official, you could say, fight night, uh, first night, you as a promoter, do you remember any of those fights or that fight? In particular, you know I, I will never forget the first.
The very first week was at the Weinberg military Sports, Complex, okay, you’ve been the first giving the very first thing.
Actually uh of America was a french guy and he had a contract so much.
I first promotion was not a small event.
It was a Europe.
I had a partner and he said to me: can we do a show there in South Africa I actually took out the license plate and we did an event at the military school Henry.
I can only the former world champion.
Of course, Euro sport paid all the costs and it was because States of America so we are either fantastic shot.
My son also a guy from India, and but I can’t remember the name now of uh.
If you wait for my media uh, that’s uh, he was a all African NHL Champion Franklin, but the first time – and I was very lucky – we Eurosport, if you do an event on Eurosport you you in Europe now so when you talk, if you want one mistake: They’Ll never come back.
Eurosport came back years to do live events from Cape Town – oh wow! That’S amazing! To hear that so – and you know, if you ask the best fighter on my Facebook – was actually the best – he was a former uh WBO champion and the European champ or originally from Nigeria, but he grew up in England.
Okay, you know nice Steve.
It sounds like uh, you started off and he started off with the bang and uh from there.
Yes, yes and uh.
Yes, I know Euro Sports now this side of the world and that you say after your first show They carried on working with you from shows and shows and yeah elephants after that um.
You know, like I say we, I was fortunate to work with Europe and then later on, I managed to get able to come on board because then they eventually promoted on Eurosport also it may be 10 or 12 of events like that and um right through uh.
I had in the Box to uh what was what TV you know myself.
We will specifically in the evening Stone two o’clock three o’clock in the morning proposals proposals for television networks.
You work with one night.
I was certainly with Jeremy in the city.
We’Ve done so many contract with anybody, and eventually I said, let’s not give up, we have to continue.
We will find somebody after which was a four-year contract, and then we are boxing.
We were actually the fighter that fought the most of the questions we could promote.
In the South Africa, Ghana, uh Zimbabwe, Bia is, and we did very well because it became so popular uh.
We are on the night fight an average of 240 200 watching those events.
The reason for that was that Cooling to accomplish to the National Television through different, like you, could watch it in Nigeria, in Ghana, in in Kenya all over Africa for on your national television, and that is what we got very diuretics.
Yes, I remember it.
You know uh, it lasted only for four years and um.
After that I stopped good Innings.
We all had as we can.
We have to continue titles on all the events, which was the requirement from question TV experience both and um, and so you know I I that was one of the islands for me, but okay, that I really love doing anything uh.
That was child in the in the in the in the grand wish Casino American guy uh uh uh, but the most important part was was Edwin, live on sabc and life in Japan and in in Japan because they live in them as well.
In Africa, at 80 million people on a Saturday afternoon wow, so that was a waiter highlight for them.
I would never forget that tournament, the casino and um uh Mike one is fighting on the WB of his fight and uh was.
That was the first K1 event that in South Africa, yes, a very popular brand in 110 countries over the world, so the whole Focus of the kickboxer at that particular event.
Yes, oh wow.
That’S amazing, Steve! That’S very amazing even how you could switch from making boxing events to going over to K1 events, and you know your events, you know um sounds like they were just getting better and better and bigger and bigger it never shrank down where you were in a situation Where you wanted to quit – and you saw that you know the promoting – is not going anywhere, did you ever have such uh times in in your in your career, where the promotion was just like you felt he’s going nowhere, you’re not getting any sponsorships you’re, not getting Any uh help from the government or anything like this uh.
I must think for promoter.
There must be a lot of hurdles you got over, you have or you encounter David if you haven’t multiple background phosphate.
First break in English range, never mind what the problem is.
So it’s like, because if I have a moment like that, after that life you’ll find a sort of solution, if there’s a problem, you’re gon na find this say something to do.
You know when you promote uh boxing tone moment.
That’S going to be televised and eight o’clock, you go 240 million people who are going to see this fight a day before the main event fighting the boxes.
Don’T wait.
What do you do? You can stop the tournament.
You have to wait, so we had many playing things like that.
If you want for the wbaf title before the fight, the guy told no, he didn’t want to fight you yeah.
Yes, I remember I remember, do what you want the title, but that’s the situation.
You’Re.
That’S the question: there is no time there’s no time for things to do.
You just find a solution to the public.
Okay.
Yes, I thank God, that’s what I did we always.
We are a great deal for Jeremy.
We had a wonderful team when there’s anything happens, solution yes and uh, talking about Solutions uh and this.
This is very interesting, especially coming from a promoter like yourself, I’m just going to touch on Connor Ben.
You know if uh, if you were Eddie, Hearn and Carter Ben, was your fighter and something like this had to come.
Where you have a big show coming up and one of your Fighters come test positive for drugs or steroids use as a promoter.
What what do you do, what uh uh? How do you go about this? You know even having I carry on, because those coming your your fighter is the one that’s positive, you’re supposed to be well.
This is this was a very big.
This is a very big fight as a history, because those two boys well world champions and they will pick names in boxing and yet it happened in boxing.
I don’t remember something like this happening, but these two young guys were going to fight each other.
They were going to go to their dads with you know, so the fact that they should positive details, but I don’t want to be a position.
You know Church, so most people did happen three months ago.
You know I I’m sure the promoter could have, but I I don’t I don’t I don’t know.
I don’t know why I don’t want to be in this position that you find a solution for this.
To be quite honest because it’s such a big, you know I don’t want to be an idiot shoes, [, Music ], you know I uh or the B sample comes back, make it then it goes.
Every body was wanted to Jesus.
Yes, I understand and uh yeah.
It must be a very difficult time now for the promoter, Mr Eddie Hearn at the moment um but yeah, I think uh as an athlete.
Also, as a champion, you know you, you should start stay as Keen it’s Keen, 100, all the time or every time you know um, even in and out the ring, even after your boxing, but we will see what happens with that.
So yeah, you even said uh.
I wanted to ask you a little bit about the famous guys you’ve promoted.
I know you would uh with Francis Botha uh Franza Botha for the for the viewers back at home fought Mike Tyson before known as The White Buffalo.
You got um a privilege to promote him and manage Francois.
If I’m correct, hey uh got an opportunity for Francois.
As you know, he was – and he was definitely one of the most famous guys like Bernardo and my son, yes, that I’ve promoted and uh that coach – and I remember calling is going to fight somebody.
Then I said: Francois the Japanese people, the Taiwan are interested in in in the kai one, and I was really not because here as a former world champion and and he coming to kickboxing Ben and when I called him.
He said to me when you want us to meet the people in Japan, meet them as soon as you get a Visa, I will arrange for you to get a Visa I’ll, get a visual certificate and the next week we were contract for four years, and I Work from Francois in the k19 times a year became an instant success.
People love Francois, but the one thing I can learn about Francois weather Francois – that I’ve worked with you every reading session that guy choice he loves training.
You know he will never be like.
He was one of the very few guys that I’ve coached that’s always waiting for me.
We were in Japan if I’m still in my room, we have to meet uh when I come downstairs comes up with already waiting for me.
It’S like that, so he was a great guy, but the most important thing about the absolutely no fear foreign, Tokyo and the – and he was dying from All by the name of Peter Arts – did the answer for one decade he’s the most devastating like that.
I’Ve seen him break their legs, and now Francois is gon na fight this guy greater than and as she France was sitting next to me, I said France on he said what is that Titans gon na beat this guy? I didn’t know what to show you this.
Guy really doesn’t have any fear for anybody.
Oh Ford, HD, Ford, Pizza, wow, okay, so really teach a lot of potential boxes and themselves and how to open yourself, you can win.
You don’t look at somebody else.
Anybody uh and thought this guy is better.
When you fought Tyson, you see.
Why did you ever find a fact? You know some people will we overcome with fear if they fight might and look at that fight? That’S why I had no fear yeah Tyson from the word.
So that’s what I’ve learned from an experience and and he’s a wonderful person to work with.
You know foreign fighters in the world, but he had no attitude.
Absolutely no attitude yeah, I’m actually.
So it was a great experience for the four years that I’ve worked with him and uh at that time.
It was a really a good time.
You know and nice nice to work with officer Jerome labana um, but be nobody could believe what was happening.
It’S not possible, I would no kickboxing experience experience like a cheeseburger top guys.
I mean have you ever heard of anything like that? No, no, here yeah, you can’t compare table tennis with people.
Tennis, you know from boxing world champion any fought the best guys in kickboxing, chicken, France or Franco.
Don’T kick these because they they were born.
You’Ve never kicked anybody.
You’Ve never tried those kicks and boxing, and we were very advice to my son virgin same advice to mikeman.
My advice was: don’t get blocks watching stay as close as possible.
That was all we need a recipe.
Yes, nice, Steve nice.
It sounds like you had some good Journeys with uh.
You know with Mr fans live [, Music ] all over the world under 10 countries.
You know if, if an event goes live and 28 million people watch that life.
You know it was just right.
Experience and Japanese or wonderful people to work very honorable days.
You never have to worry about anything nice, Steve, nice, nice.
I also there’s one time I we wanted to go fight in Japan or in China still wish.
That could happen, but Papa Steve.
I want to ask you a question um.
As a promoter, I’ve always wondered as a promoter, slash manager.
What is it when you guys look at an athlete and what draws you to a certain athlete or a certain boxer? Is it you guys know this? Guy is good looking.
He will bring money into the into the he’s going to sell seeds he’s going to make the promoter money he’s good Friday he’s going to go far.
We will win Champions with this person that will bring us pay-per-view.
What is it that a promoter looks into an athlete to work with them and to use I’ve always wanted to know this? Okay, okay, you know uh, you know uh, they look at the different promoters.
You look at the different things in America.
You look at the promoter in in Europe and you’re.
Looking at the promoted, you know different budgets, so you can uh a good promotion in America will have a big budget which can, which means you can do for the best fighters in the world.
The guys in Europe, if you look at the topic, because in Europe anyone has got uh with a with a big stream income company, that’s worth more than a billion dollars.
You know, and then you can go to Japan.
They work with television.
They look like TVs.
Television which, where they also have very big budgets, and then you come to everyone’s Association.
You know Africa there’s some problem challenges, so my son was a boxer.
I was a boxer, so I professional boxing when I was promoting, if the guys, but who used scraping money that you don’t you know no question is, I think, promoters everywhere.
Only do uh with a you know: um.
What with Fighters is obviously to win a fighter.
Can win a WPC type or WPA in then you know, uh can generate money for the fight there.
You can get bigger, pushes International exposure.
There is a paper lesson, for instance, if I must make a an example: you win a wbbc title lightweight title and someone wants your title in the United States of America or in English.
First of all about you up to become a WB, a WPC intercom champion.
Now you can go and defend that title and defend that title in Europe, where you will get a very big post stuff like that.
But if he wins things only needed the most and later on, you can make.
If, if, if the guy is named, and you can make deals with television with show timing, you can get the share of pay-per-view.
That’S why guys like Canelo uh Davis, these Pockets at the moment and also in England, they make their money with, because only only uh.
Take them to the event, but a million people can watch the fight at home.
Pay-Per-View 100.
99.
You know so that’s for Fighters, but you know David, not everybody can get there.
They are, I think, there’s a there’s.
A the office was Full Stop African Fighters or African fighters to make it the titles that have made it big time already have mentioned someone like Harry it’s here, but I wish my mission very successful, WBA and if you can get to that level and then guys You can make a lot of money, because if the fighter makes a lot of money, then the promoter can also make money, because if, if, if I take the fighter to fight a deal with the promoted in America to have a percentage of pay-per-view of sponsorship over There, okay in South Africa, it’s it’s very difficult to get that position unless you fight a okay, interesting, very, very interesting purpose team.
I never even used very interesting.
I knew I would learn a lot from this uh.
This chat with you today, Papa Steve, but very interesting yeah.
Can I say, can I say um the promoter needs the no.
The promoter needs to manage.
No, the promoter needs the boxer or is it the boxer needs the promoter promoted can get anything once promoter can get any boxing.
Don’T fool yourselves? That becomes very successful.
The promoted insta box, but the promoter can always, let’s find the best of it and build them up.
But if he has a boxer that is just mentioned now and get opportunities to fight in in foreign country in Europe and and fight on Pay-Per-View, then promote both military options.
He’S gon na make my money I’ll, be quite honest with you uh.
I think the advantage that is a fact they’ve revolved the advice teachers.
Always you know those boxes come and go.
Please.
Okay in the Box he’s not happy with the remote yeah.
That is always the reality of boxing, but for me I think it’s very, very important to have a good relationship with lots of people which, just you know, I’ve I’ve.
You are a very popular guy.
You you, you drew a lot of people to watch it.
You you you, you you, oh, are you always smiling, but you had a great personality.
Everybody loves you.
You could have like you you to fight.
Maybe before WPC or the important thing we’re promoting.
You was, you might make exciting fights.
You know when you’re 14 girl, but you remember like yes and it was promoters, look here’s a secret model.
For me.
I want a if someone sits at home and watch the fight anyway.
He’S not gon na pick it up because he doesn’t want to lose, but every second of every second of the fight, and if you could promote fights like the fight should we we promoted you.
Well, I it was from the first bullet to the last minute.
You know what, personally, as a promoter, that’s the kind of Fighters.
I like that um that came forward that that make exciting fights all the time, because that’s what people pay to see pay for is stay on the back foot.
That’S not the kind of fighter you want, that’s not what people should, and so that is a important.
So that is another point yeah, so that you could say is another point to a promoter.
If we have any boxes watching out there, it’s also the type of the fighting style, the promoters.
Look for that good fighting styles in Fighters, um a fighter that doesn’t have to always win, but can pretty exciting fonts keep the fighters in the seats.
You know make sure that someone when they leave the arena, they say one hell of a fight I saw there is that works as well? Let me share something with you that I’ve learned I went to tournaments in Japan.
I used to go back to Japan for sure she is.
You know what I’ve learned in Japan from the Japanese.
We go to a tournament in the Tokyo, Dome 75 thousand million people watch and hold you know, which Fighters the ones that make it exciting fights.
That comes forward those it doesn’t matter what you look like David.
You know they wan na your looks.
They worried about your heart, fighting Spirit, an exciting fights in Japan, fight every month and to be and and such a trial, or I spent 16 years there.
Nine eight times a year and many minutes promoting in South Africa uh what’s the same steps, sometimes my pardon the front of it from me.
But when I was meaningful advice that I don’t know if other promoters are looking like.
You learned that in Japan, I’ve seen the success of that and with questions that, if you make it exciting fights, people will watch or they will pay and that’s the case all over the world.
Another thing is: if you have a guidance, if you, if you think back of the late Charlie, we are if it was a knockout and he felt the stadiums because everybody wanted to shoot someone else.
You know if you see him look at if you see fighting fights, people are gon na come very much so I I that’s what I’m looking for in a as a promoted, invitis promoters are looking for that.
Okay very nicely very, very interesting and uh yeah man.
It’S very nice to to to see in depth of you know, uh what you guys look for what you’ve been through and uh touching through.
Some of your highlights.
It’S a it must have been a amazing journey with um, with everything you’ve done.
So you said that you have uh.
Okay in boxing, you hang up your gloves.
I don’t know what you call it in the promotion world.
You say you’re done with promoting now Steve.
You know David I’ve been involved with boxing uh, I’m not promoting anymore.
I’M I’m done.
I’Ve been involved watching for the only person.
I’M coaching, I’m coaching at the moment is your one for sure for sure something basically heavy weight.
I don’t know if you know he was a former South Africa heavyweight champion now for 35 years, having coached, mostly heavyweight.
I’Ve worked at actually to.
Let me add this to you: I’m going to work three weeks with a page box watching the light box base boxing manual skew it with Lenox Lewis, came to South Africa, get to fight all type bro him, and I would Interstate with him for three weeks for Three weeks I could ice coaches in the world Emmanuel Stephen.
It was a major work with someone like that.
I’Ve learned a lot from him, you know and actually earlier, but that’s probably one of the major highlights in my life.
As far as the one first thing is concerned, I don’t want to now waste my time, someone because you know yourself.
If you call someone you have this place a week with that person and building up to become a world champion, the only person that I’m coaching at the moment is one person.
The reason I’m coaching him because I might like to be with me but and he he’s got the size he’s – got the reach – he’s a fast learner, young guy and I’m 100 sure that he will get to the top.
You know if a guy uh a hundred percent in every training session – and you know you know – to coach and to coach – lighter weights she’s completely different.
The power is different uh.
Did you tell him to knock people out people, don’t want to watch nine guy and said, Go the Distance they wanted to knock out.
So you have to have the ability to knock people out and we I started with everyone.
We had five fights five knockouts.
If you lost fight in the first round knockout, you know he fought in Germany, it was a person unlocked.
So I thank God I ever did to teach heavywise White Edition because uh so the answering only guy, I’m involved anymore, I’m sending you so uh.
So I’ve done it all.
I thank God for the people and the ability to have all over the years and the opportunity, but at the moment now I’m retired and I’m only focused and I’m sure, he’s gon na get to the top nice.
I haven’t.
I’Ve got a question.
I’Ve got a question now for you, Steve from one of the viewers that are watching they’re hearing you speak about your boxer.
Everyone uh Eddie Barrington, wanted to know, can ruin uh beat uh Tyson Fury.
Could he take on Tyson Fury? That’S one of the questions.
Okay, everyone is not ready to fight someone like that information Theory number one.
He is one of the most uh gift, naturally, gift that I have ever seen.
I’M this is my personal opinion.
I’M this footwork is the same like the late Muhammad Ali enation, ah, 126 kilograms he’s a big guy, but like a like a lightweight and I think ish, the second fight with a wife, and he got a new coach.
The the was assistant to put pressure on his opponent – and I think he didn’t have to really lose of God – he’s the most delusive guy and uh items is in a position to fight Tyson Fury.
Not now you know.
Let me let me put another uh Point.
Uh, I think Tyson Fury will be Alexander Houston.
Yes, very highly, I don’t think everyone is the same size, size.
Nine is a 128 kilograms and uh not the same Illusions but other constraints.
I need more more time to get to that.
Tell me something uh, sorry to catch you there again about your fighter.
You want Pots.
If you can tell us just a little bit something before we end our show.
I know he trained with the Great Putin.
Listen to me uh the great heavyweight fighter, the the twins um.
He was the sparring partner.
Hey, oh you want to know.
Yes, he was uh yeah.
She was the sparring partner for the teachers.
Sorry I was saying vitamins limited one and he was just shaking his head and he’s shaking his head, and the one told me afterwards when he walked from walking in Durban welcome he said when they walked away.
He said to me: I will never be able to start with the control game.
I said one from, but I am first considered to go to send you to New Zealand.
Now you may have, I said yes to work with the best amateur coach of Oceana.
All the islands and and in New Zealand he he took many teams to the Olympic Games since 2012.
, this to uh to the to the Commonwealth.
She went uh Olympic Games with with Fighters and everyone needed to learn the basic support from a good image coach.
We went to New Zealand to train with Olympic that time could spawned some of the heavy ones uh Parker was.
One of them is an opportunity.
You work with a basement and it’s your coach.
While he was there when he came back, it was now time for Germany also Australia.
To start with Vladimir and one day after initiated me uh there is a problem he’s gon na waste.
His time I have to apologize, I’ve made a mistake.
The coach of the one ready to spot with someone with like me, please world champion for 10 years, you’re gon na get a terrible idea over there.
You should stop father made a commitment to me that he can go.
You should go so that before they were to finally bookish thicker than everything before father said to you, if you I even sleep for you to go to Austria and his father, if you don’t go, you take your stuff off this farm and I never want to See you again and there’s nothing: the world was now sitting between each culture at that dad sheet.
I don’t want to see you again, you’re gon na start with Klitschko or take your stuff and leave.
Then next morning is book.
The ticket is going to school.
Oh nice, what happened was pretty odd articles in South Africa of people who say that I’m the Sunday, the next Tuesday is three weeks later and please go forward and even Joshua after Anthony Joshua, George or Tyson Fury, I’m not sure after up afterwards, when, when future, At his next fight at the first fight was again Fury, so he transcribed with him against Anthony Joshua, the first partying part in his camp.
I should do the one you’re either gon na.
Are you gon na run back if you, if you, if you’re getting a hiding, you should that’s all? I finally is stay there you win for the second time and he became a top scoring partner.
Yes, I remember that I remember everyone was going up and down to help the kiss girls at the stage, which was very good Steve, which very good transceived.
I must say, Let’s see, we can talk all night.
We’Ve come to the end of our awesome show, and oh my God, no thank you.
David appreciated.
It’S nice to see he’s my man, you know yes and it’s uh very nice when we started.
I appreciate to be on YouTube and I wish you to go from bed.
Thank you, Steve and uh.
Thank you for having me on your shows.
I’Ve fought many times for Mr Steve caracota.
As I said, uh one of his fight nights.
I actually won one of these.
The all Africa WPF title for um Lakota was promoting me and uh.
You had me on your shows Papa Steve, thank you for being on Marshall and I hope the the audience enjoyed.
This talk show um we’re having another interesting.
A very, very special guest on Friday or Thursday uh stay tuned guys, and thank you for tuning in to ringside talk this evening with your host David rajuli and the great promoter, Steve caracota.
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God bless you and God bless you all, and thank you very much.
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