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EPISODE: Episode 19
Watch undefeated “Supreme” Kareem Hackett, aka The Wolf, a Canadian boxer fighting out of Santa Monica, but currently in Equador on Knuckle Up with Mike Orr who proudly discusses knockout artists on YouTube or LIVE at talkinfight.com/live Weekday’s at 4pm EST #knockout #bestboxers @kareemwins
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Alrighty here we are thanks once again for joining us on another, exciting episode of talk and fight.
Today on knuckle up with mike orr at four we’ve got two special guests with us today: hey golden rodgers, bringing on special guest of his own.
In fact, so, we’ve got a quadruple, uh episode.
This is gon na, be gon na, be a good one, ready, yeah, and then you know it’s interesting.
We were just talking about dmitry bibble the other day and, as you know anyway, anyway, i’m i’m jumping a little bit ahead of the program because it comes out because i’m excited uh.
I want you to want you, take it away mike and then we’ll get on to roger and then karine.
Yes, man, yeah roger.
How are you brother, i’m good man? How are you doing you’re, looking excellent you’re, looking excellent kareem welcome.
Thank you.
Thank you for taking the time to come on man, um yeah, mr mr still, undefeated correct, yep, still still undefeated, um 7-0.
Now four knockouts, that’s it! That’S it um! So you’ve uh, you’ve moved down to ecuador right um.
I just fought here um, i’m still, i’m still boxing out of la so um, i’m boxing out of a gym called churchill boxing club, that’s in uh santa monica, california, all right.
So what kind of what kind of um you know struggles? Are you going through right now during this corona virus and like? Is it hard to get fights and everything right now like? Is that why you have to travel down to ecuador to get a fight, yeah yeah? Basically, um yeah, you know like a lot of fighters, especially as a canadian.
A lot of us at home, um and in boxing are stuck.
You know um, thank god, my my team um was able to um keep me busy like in mexico in march and um and then now ecuador.
So thank god.
It’S world war, two you’re not missing much up here in toronto.
Man, it’s cold, it’s cold! It sucks! I wish i was down there with you yeah, so you fought what was the last weekend right: correct against uh mario mina yeah against against mario amino um.
He was eight and three and one going into the fight so um a little bit more experience than me that this is my seventh pro fight that would that was his um 13th um, but yeah man we’re just ready to start showing what we can do.
So we’re looking for those fights where we’re like the less experienced side.
That’S uh! Well yeah! So you guys are hungry eh, that’s good, that’s good! So so roger you were, you were talking about b, side b, side of boxing and and and how korean yeah.
Can you explain and maybe you’ll elaborate on that whole situation and you know explain to our viewers out there watching that you know this whole b-side of boxing, that nobody really knows about well pretty much on the b-side.
They come in and they’re coming as opponents and and basically to to lose um.
Even when they win it’s pretty much their setup to lose and kareem can get into it.
How his tim and his team pretty much uh diffuse that situation.
An amazing amazing job of the saturday crazy eh yeah, so it was a bit of a crazy story like um.
Can we hear him yeah yeah? We can hear him great, let’s hear it yeah.
So obviously um you know ecuador is a spanish-speaking country uh.
My my team was full of um.
Well, most of my team is either american or um canadian majority american, but um yeah.
We came with a few spanish speakers like there’s another um, there’s another american ecuadorian on the card.
Um there’s a good friend of mine named arnold gonzalez um.
He just went 6-0 on the same card as well, but um yeah so between the group of us there’s about six there’s about like six of us and and we’re just um keeping an eye out for things, because when, when you, when you’re, not in a when You’Re in like a b-side setting, there’s a lot of little things that happened that it’s hard to prepare for, like, for example, um.
The floor was really wet, especially in our corner, and it was like the the mat wasn’t like a cloth that can look like it.
Normally it was like a plastic kind of tarp thing going on so with the sponsors um and their like vinyl material type of um stickers that they had going on that doesn’t play well with water, and it definitely doesn’t play well with shoes and grip right.
It was like a slip and slide and nobody wanted to clean it and my corner screaming like clean it clean the water clean the water, because you can’t even like set your feet to punch.
You know, um we’re coming out of the wat like was basically like.
Being on skates, um yeah so like our my own corner, was jumping into the ring in between um in between rounds like cleaning up the ring.
You know so the that that was a challenge and in another way, um mario menos, like super dirty.
If anybody’s ever seen him fight, this guy is like literally out lives outside of the bounds of the rules.
You know like hitting back of the head um elbows headbutts, that’s how i got this oh wow with like no deductions, no, nothing um our our corner screaming at the ref.
For that as well and at the end of the fight um, we dominated them pretty handily.
Um and they they called it for for him so like they called the score um in favor of him, and we knew that was wrong so, like before the the winner was announced, it was taking so long, so one of the guys on our team.
So this is how it goes back to having a strong team.
So we realized the judges were taking forever.
So one of our guys just starts recording the judges table and he was getting a little bit of [ __ ] for that um.
I don’t know if i can say that too late.
Oh yeah, trust me.
I slip up all the time too yeah he was getting um he’s getting a little bit of flack for that and um, and once they called the other guy’s name, we were like no.
No, no, no, stop stop everything like you’re, not leaving the ring, show us the scorecards and we waited and they gave us the scorecards and um it turned out.
You know we were up as we knew we were on every single scorecard and we won the fight.
So then they then they reversed the call, thank god.
Well, congratulations now now you’re 7-0, what uh? What are, what are your plans from here like? Where do you see yourself? You know in the next eight months, nine months from now.
Where do you think? Where do you expect to be, and where do you think you will be in the next? Like eight nine months um, i found myself busy busy um, definitely at least and um.
I would like to start really positioning ourselves um.
You know in like our rightful place as like number one in in canada at light heavyweight, so anybody’s name who’s near the top.
Has it going another record? Are we having technical difficulties, yeah right, roger’s messing with us again, i think i think it froze.
I think it froze that’s horrible he’s frozen darn.
Ladies and gentlemen, people watching my cousin, especially overseas in ireland right now watching christopher thanks for tuning in um yeah we’re having some technical difficulties.
Hopefully we can get them back on so, graham, how are you doing brother? I’M doing i’m doing great, i’m serious.
I read that uh kareem fought dimitri vivo, yeah yeah man.
So what confused me if they’re, both undefeated yet they’ve, both fought each other one of them had to have lost, might be a different one.
His box, his box wreck, isn’t showing it, though, unless unless it was uh aspiring partner, i don’t know, maybe it does.
I did.
I did read that and i went hey.
I know that name.
You know i wouldn’t have known it had it not been for you bringing you the finest and the youngest fighters out there right now, michael rfor, you know what man viewers, you know what you know.
What i’m doing you know you know what this show is all about.
Trust me, this guy kareem.
You need to watch it.
Man he’s he’s big he’s big stuff in canada right now.
Hopefully we can get him back on.
I want to hear the rest of the story and how he’s getting the uh the butt end of the stick really in his whole uh climb for super stardom.
I thought i thought you were going to make a joke there about him, uh, not having a disadvantage on that skating rink.
He was talking about yeah, but you know like i, i understand what he’s saying the the material of that ring like honestly.
If it doesn’t get properly cleaned up, then yeah it becomes a skating rink, and you know it’s hard to get your feet.
Man just saying as a canadian, he had an advantage well come on.
Let’S be real, let’s be real, we’re not all up here in ice.
You know you know big blues and we’re not all skating down the street to tim, hortons.
Okay, we’re not all that talented on skates.
I am i i did play hockey because you know that’s what we do, but you know not.
Everybody does not everybody.
Oh look.
What goes hand in hand other than a pair of skates and fighting? You know what you got.
You got me there.
Actually i’m just saying he might have had an advantage.
I wrapped up 400 and 490 penalty minutes and only 42.
Oh here we go.
Don’T worry.
We kept it rolling, we kept it rolling, we’re doesn’t matter, roger get a little gray there brother.
Just like me, so korean grammar just discussing how you know um yeah, it sounds like you’ve, been treated unfair and it’s and it’s almost like they’re making your journey to what you want to achieve in the sport a little harder than most, and you know, they’re they’re, Setting you up, you know with more experienced fighters and stuff, but you keep coming out on top and persevering, and you know that shows that shows heart and dedication.
No doubt thank you.
Thank you.
No doubt um, but yeah like i don’t want to make.
It seem like um, i don’t want to it’s.
Definitely.
This was definitely out of the ordinary, but about the same time um every boxing career for it to be for to mean something like adversity has to happen.
You know sometimes you’re going to be fighting and and and away places and places where not everybody’s your friend or on your side um, you know adversity is like guaranteed in like a good career.
You know so um, i’m happy because it needed to be overcame.
You know, of course, of course, what’s up so you so you’re out of la right, like you’re, not you’re, you’re, mainly out of la and then now you’re in ecuador, the training man like versus the heat and the atmosphere and being on those different side.
Does it take a toll on your body? Is it a lot harder to to train in those different climates um? Well, what it wasn’t bad um because, like i’m, used to um as we spent a lot of years in uh wild card boxing club um with we wrote and like it, gets super hot over there.
After that, i feel like i could.
I could fight in the oven, [ Laughter, ], that’s awesome, so yeah, so sauna, no sauna and sweatsuits are no problem for you, then hey, oh, not at all man.
So you fight you fight, light heavy, correct, correct, yeah, um, any thoughts of moving up or down weight classes at any point um.
Well, maybe once i get some hardware, you know like um, it was always like i drew my mind to be.
You know like um, a multi-division champion, so you know maybe um, maybe after i accomplished like what i set out to do at that heavy weight um i could, you know, add on a few fingers and go to cruiser and do the same thing.
Definitely you know what you know: i’ve seen i’ve seen a few of your votes.
I haven’t seen them all um.
You know i, if you can send me all of your votes, i’d love to watch them again, but uh yeah man, you got uh.
You got some power in those mitts brother, you got some, you got some got some powerful hands.
I’Ll.
Tell you that much! You definitely got that knockout power and honestly on knuckle up.
That’S what we’re about man.
We love knockout artists and you you’re definitely uh you’re.
Definitely on that page and honestly, great job, brother, great job, i’m looking so forward to watching you in the future as you grow in your career.
I’D like to know i’d like to know if you’re training in santa monica, how on earth do you stay focused? That’S a really nice place to train yeah.
No, honestly, honestly, it’s beautiful and like um.
It’S definitely easy to get distracted and i understand everybody who does [ Laughter ].
We got ta wish man like wait when you keep them all the way in toronto.
It’S like we got, ta get it yeah.
Our beach is close.
Believe me, uh, i’m just curious whether you have a pair of roller skates do do rollerskating down santa monica and the the pier did.
You have fun down there.
You know what um i don’t roller skate, but i didn’t love picking up beach.
Volleyball, though, if you know what i mean yeah, i don’t know what you mean: bro yo you’re from toronto, beach volleyball’s big here too right yeah and you know you’re going for those long distance runs along the santa monica.
You know walkway there right all right.
Oh, it’s great down there.
It’S absolutely great! That’S awesome! Go ahead! Graham! Sorry! No i’m i’m sorry! I’M distracted once again it’s easily it’s easily.
It easily happens.
Man, let’s not lie.
Distraction is very easy yeah.
So any any dream fight right now who could, if you wanted to fight like if you could pick your fighter tomorrow, who you wanted to fight who would it be um man, there’s so many there’s so many um? Are we like talking about who’s active right now or like is inactive, also included both? Let’S go inactive inactive dream fight, go all right, active dream, fight, yeah, i’m john pascal, because i want to go down as the best light heavyweight in canadian history.
So i have to see him so that’s you know he did so much so like i needed to put him on my resume.
That’S like an active dream, um, an inactive dream, probably roy jones.
His style is just so fun.
Man, i feel like i’d, have so much fun in there against roy jones, excellent, excellent excellent.
So you know so you fought last weekend no time off, you’re still training hard.
When, when do you think you’ll be in the ring again how soon um, earliest earliest march late march, um, i’m probably going to soak up a little bit more tropical vibes for like a few days? Yeah definitely do that.
You know yeah and then right back to it yeah.
If we take yeah, take take some uh.
You know well-deserved time off sit on the beach sip, some mai tais.
No doubt [ Laughter, ], looking a little a little um like bachata over here, you know, yeah.
Definitely definitely hey.
I’M envious man.
I wish i was there, i’m stuck with snow and nothing like right.
Oh, oh, oh god, oh no virus! Nothing open in snow you’re, not stuck with nothing you’re stuck with me! Well yeah, but not, but not.
Really though, it’s like you, don’t shut the computer off and you’d be gone.
Where’S, the love where’s, the love.
Oh you! You know, you know, i get it man, you know i give it.
I definitely give it.
I guess i guess we lost roger sorry, roger man.
Oh something we did want to clarify, though yes um, while you were uh on having a drink off having a drink there uh we were talking about uh.
We had read about uh, dimitri bible and that you had you had faced him in the ring, but if you’re both undefeated, so we did, were you just sparring with them at one point, or was this an amateur, no, no um, so um? We are together like a a lot of times.
We’Ve done a lot of boxing together, um yeah he’s uh we’re we’re both in the la team and um.
We’Ve spent a few training camps together so that that was like super high quality.
Boxing was probably um.
Probably some of the most fun i ever had in l.
a to be honest, excellent, excellent yeah.
So thank you.
Thank you for clarifying that.
Actually we um i i did a little profile on him on my show.
Was it a week ago or so, and and i was discussing him and his fighting style well, so it was a lot of fun.
I sparring him.
Oh yeah, that was like very, very high iq um boxing between us.
His hands are heavy correct.
You got, he got heavy hands, but, more importantly, um i mean like we both got heavy hands but, more importantly, he got a.
She has a sharp mind.
So i found that um, dimitri and i boxing together was like more slow, more so a chess match than than than a scrap.
You know what i mean yeah man.
Definitely definitely that’s amazing.
That’S amazing! I i explain it so many times to a lot of people like fighting is, is, is a lot more mental than it is physical, oh fast right and then – and you know you can’t stress it enough – you know anybody can say percentages, but truly it is mental.
Over physical, it is a chess game.
I love how you mention that man, that’s how i i refer to fighting and you know, standing across from somebody.
It’S you got ta think moves ahead.
That’S that’s the way it is so it’s definitely a chess match.
No doubt graham [ Music ], you want a four ounce club.
Did you see that comment korean? I did.
I saw that comment come on.
Yeah yeah.
I just saw four ounce gloves.
Yeah man are you pro? Are you pro or against in boxing yeah um? I think if we had four ounce gloves and boxing fights would probably be a lot shorter, i’m not sure if, if we would ever hear of a thing called the decision again.
Thank you.
Thank you.
You heard it there again argument squash man, shorter fights and more knockouts, never leaving in the judge’s hands pure decision.
That’S a real chess match.
I i believe i believe we should do it man.
I i think i’m pro four ounce man, let’s, let’s do it! Four ounce gloves i’m starting the movement man, i’m starting the movement right here right here.
Four ounce gloves and shorter fights save lives in the long run, less damage less damage.
You know to your body less damage to your brain right.
You know, let’s put four ounce gloves on them and have some real real fn knockouts man yeah.
Definitely you definitely walk in you knocked them out with the pillows on your hand anyway, you know, i can only imagine the devastation that you do to some guys with four ounce glass yeah.
No doubt with a little bit of accuracy.
Oh man, everybody’s going to sleep.
Definitely definitely, this is amazing, cream you’re, uh, yo man you’re gon na.
I i see big things from you.
I i hope the best for you in the future man, please let us know anytime, you got a belt going on man.
We want to tune in we’re.
Definitely going to follow your career, you know represent canada.
The way you should bring it man bring.
It show everybody what you got.
I’Ve seen what you have in a few tapes viewers out there watching man knuckle up.
I always told you man, i bring you the real deals.
Kareem is the guy watch, this guy’s career man, big things from graham.
Do you have any questions for our guests? Hey heck? No.
This has been fantastic good stuff thanks very much for joining us appreciate it again.
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