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Operating Officer for the Stafford Boxing Club Incorporated our non-profit organization, which is a yearly mentoring program for at-risk youth in the community, so we will be able to teach financial literacy communication discipline decision making, as well as campaigning for a premium education.
These are the foundation for the Stafford Boxing Club, these 20 mentees in our program here at Panola Way elementary school 20 years from now, staff for boxing mentees will be known across the world for boxing report.
You all know who I am I’m lady Stafford, I’m Stafford Stanford boxing the making of Champions.
What’S going on everybody happy to have everybody here, hello, hello and welcome.
Thank you for joining us today.
Okay, all right everybody! So today is Black History Month, big fat, and there is somebody who I really really really adore and his name is Frederick Douglass and one of the main reasons why I’m just about to ask you: why did you choose the reason why I chose Frederick Douglass was Well, one of the main reasons was because he did everything that he had to do to get an education.
He was a slave.
His mom was a slave.
His dad was a white man and at a young age he knew that slavery was wrong, so he was always being moved to One Plantation to another Plantation, but it was one and the woman of the house.
Her name is Sophia.
She helped him with this Foundation of learning, how to recite the alphabet and to do some basic writing.
But once the man of the house found out all that had to come to an end, so he ended up moving him to another place where the man of the house was known for breaking the slaves, but that still did not stop him.
He used to also read the Bible to the other slaves.
He was trying to help other slaves as well, but he also was able to watch white children.
He bribed some of the white children and then no matter where he was working.
He would use chalk.
He would write on a board.
He would write on logs whatever he could find.
He used those resources that we may take for granted to constantly write and whatever he could read.
He was a leader.
He was also an activist for the women’s rights to vote.
He was an author as well as a speaker, so that’s why I chose Frederick Douglass education is key and he did whatever he needed to do to get it.
You know, Frederick Douglass also had a newspaper that he had he created.
I think one of the first newspapers so um he was also a businessman.
He was also a good friend of uh.
The late President, Abraham Lincoln and Frederick Douglass, is the epitome of overcoming obstacles, making something out of nothing, and I believe that he was a great leader as well.
A lot of people criticized him later on in his life, but in the book like prior to getting to that point, he set the tone.
He was a conservative as well and so by him being a conservative, he was able to move a lot of black people.
Mindset to focus on big things – and I I think that in our country in our community, I think that we have lost track of those who have gone and done significant and extraordinary things under extraordinary pressure.
And one of the things about a diamond is that a diamond must go through pressure.
I am, you know, very disappointed in how we have uh capitalized have not capitalized off.
The sacrifices of our ancestors, as Sheila has equated to Frederick.
Douglass is a plethora of black leaders, men and women, who have made a huge contributions to the equal rights that we have here in America.
I know many uh Black Americans may say that you know America is not a good place and this this and you know you have a lot of issues with the police of brutality and Etc.
But if you go to any other country, you would quickly realize that if you are a black person and if your family don’t have resources or didn’t come from a line where it was wealth passed down, you would struggle.
You will experience a different level of hardship if you go to Haiti, Jamaica, certain parts of Jamaica, Haiti.
If you go to Africa, I was uh speaking with a young man who uh him and his family uh Brandon at the gym.
The big guy him and his family had went to Africa and um, so he come back with a different tongue.
He was like he was talking totally different and I asked him I said Brandon.
What was the most significant thing that you saw in Africa that made you realize how fortunate you were to be an American citizen.
You were like staff and I ain’t gon na lie.
Man when I went there, he was like there is no government like we have like government assistance and all that other type stuff.
He was like Stanford.
It was on a whole nother level.
When I say poverty I is, is the the word that he used was slums.
He was like Stafford a lot of the the girls um, the young girls.
They were not.
They had to resort to prostitution, just to survive.
You looking at a man and his daughters and the man don’t have another father, don’t have none, so the the other alternative for this young girl to be able to survive is prostitution, whereas here in America, prostitution is, is a choice.
That’S my humble opinion.
It’S a choice, I think, for women there are so many resources and opportunities and programs initiative to help you making a mark in a positive way, and I think sometimes Sheila man, we African-Americans black Americans, Negroes blacks.
Whatever you want to you know, labor yourself, I think we really take a lot of our freedom for granted.
You know what do you think about that? I think a lot about it.
I don’t think, like you said that when Frederick Douglass, like you said, made a way out of nothing, he used whatever he could use to educate himself and there should be no excuse.
We have social media platforms, we have the internet, we have YouTube, we have so many things that and we have the library um.
We do.
We have the library, and I do believe that, even though you have to go, you know you have to give them your um.
You have to have an ID and a few other things, but I truly believe that if you are in a situation – and you could not cannot get a library card, because maybe you don’t have a place to stay like a residence, I do believe that you can Still get some type of Hell, or even if you don’t have a residence, still go to the library and if you have to stay there stay there all day.
There is a way that you can do what you need to do and or what you want to do.
You can’t make no excuses there is.
There is no time for any excuses, and now now I will admit you know there is racism.
There is a thing called systemic racism uh there is, you know you got bad apples in each race.
You got black on black crime, you got white against black, you got, you know, Hispanics to get against Hispanics.
You got white against white, I mean there are bad people in every race and I do believe, in my humble opinion, as a black American Negro African-American, they are are challenges that one face when trying to accomplish your dreams and goals, but anything in life you’re going To have to face some hardship, and I think that those hardship opportunities give me trials are designed to build character as you, and I are determined to make sure that all the kids that are in our program shine like a diamond uh, demonstrate a champion.
Uh characteristic.
Excuse me Champion character.
You know not only in their dealings with us, but you know in their homes in the community in school, like we are very serious about our program.
We uh devote a lot of our times.
We go out here in the community.
We ask other organizations to support our cause because a lot of the kids in our program come from.
You know single parent homes, uh mother, having a very difficult time with rent the cost of living is Skyrocket, inflation, food, Etc, and so man we see the struggle and we are a part of the struggle.
And so, when we identify this, we are committed to making sure that the Stafford Boxing Club try to fill in a gap where the leadership is needed to help Inspire and motivate these kids that you know what.
Yes, we may be going through this right now, but the boxing mentality is have a strong mind that you don’t make decisions that will affect your education because she looked you know when we were going to school.
If you got in trouble, I don’t think that it.
It went with you from from one level to another.
I think that once you got in trouble, it stayed in that particular schools, let’s say for instance, if you got in trouble in middle school, then your record it would.
I don’t remember having a record, I think I think recently they just started there where, if you get in trouble um in Middle School, it carries on to high school and so like.
If you are have a disciplinarian problem, then once you go to the next level, it would be already documented on your file that this is that, and this is that – and you know sure you know lately I have been seeing some disturbing videos uh on social media, With kids fighting yeah man, like I I just and and and I’m just tired of seeing black kids fighting for no reason, bro being disrespectful to the driver, want to fight the driver, then it was a uh.
It was something that I uh.
I read about the teachers union in Georgia.
The reason the reason why there is a shortage of teachers in the state of Georgia.
It’S one security.
You know the teachers feel like going to school or excuse me being a teacher in Dekalb Gwinnett Atlanta, Public School Fulton County.
It’S not safe, so they’ve, so so they Wayne, okay, is being a teacher.
You know as far as is it worth it.
Is it worth losing my life? Not only that the pay is not what it should be for these teachers, then the teachers uh have to teach with little resources, but I only talk about us.
You know – and you know particularly myself and how I fell in love with the library and I started reading books, self-educate myself about so many things and I come from a very you know, unorthodox background.
Let me just say that and for me, having access to the library allowed me to escape from a mental standpoint where I began to dream outside of the box that I was currently living from the hood, I’m from this environment.
I’Ve been seeing it all everything you could possibly name.
I I didn’t seen it.
However, like Sheila was talking about Frederick Douglass.
He was willing.
He was willing to sacrifice his life for an education, meaning like the slave master.
Wife was teaching him about.
You know the alphabets Etc, so he used to get beat real bad too, like every day or every other day he was getting beat.
But I’m not saying for you and during that time, when you were going to the library that was easy, but I would say it’s a [ __ ] was a smidget more easier during that time than it is during this time, because you got to understand the Parents are younger, the grandparents are younger, are younger and then it’s of the whole thing with social media.
The whole thing with TV.
It’S like nobody, I’m not going to say nobody.
It’S some parents, some people in the community, everybody.
It seems like the majority of the people are just so into this entertainment.
It’S the music, it’s the people that they look up to.
They idolize these people.
They want what they have, because it’s materialistic, they have the money, they have the men, they have the girls.
Even having trains on you is a big thing with these women.
Now you need to let people know the train is when a woman allows more than one man to have sex with her, and it’s just back to back to back.
I saw a video on it and it was like 15 guys, and it was just this one girl.
So if you listen to the music okay, these women who are married, sell these.
These unrealistic things to these to the even the the women the grown women.
So they say things like I: let them run a train or there’s so many men out here.
I’M not gon na cry over this one.
Of course we don’t want you to cry, but then you’re like you’re you’re advertising that you can be with so many men.
You have these women that are advertising how how many uh players, basketball players that they’ve run through, so we’re not we’re we’re not we, but some of us glorified that, because it’s like a woman’s right.
Yes, it’s your body, you can do whatever it is.
You want to do with your body, but what about the kids, the the the youth right now so now you are some of us.
Some of us are raising young girls to be prostitutes.
I’M just going to keep it real with you.
We’Re raising young boys to not have respect for women, not even and not even respecting themselves, so the thing is okay.
Well, if I’m in a relationship, I’m going to sleep with him anyway, okay! Well, this is what I want to say.
Of course, we know, all of us won’t wait until we get married; it just is what it is we get it, but I would like to at least think that if you do sleep with somebody and you’re in a relationship with them, you’re sleeping with them, because I really like this person, and I do want to be with them – you’re, not sleeping with them because of the money, but now you are using excuse, while obviously with them anyways.
So I might as well get what I want.
Well, that is prostitution, and then this and then I’ll be seeing these young girls and these young boys doing these grown dances and then y’all are allowing them to listen to this grown music.
If you want to say this check this out during our time right and even back, then when you, when, when a man or a woman was talking about love or making love to a man or a woman, at least they would start off slow it’ll, be some Type of foreplay, then it’ll be when they actually make love and then they’ll talk about after whether if they left them or if they were staying together or oh, how I’m in love.
If you want to talk about the gangster music, they would, they would say what it is, what they’re going to do or what has happened or what’s going on, but then they will ramp about the consequences to now.
It’S just like this is what I’m going to do and that’s it there’s no consequences to it.
So please, no I’m talking about they’re, not singing or rapping or or if they’re, an actor entertaining to the consequences.
So everybody has an idol, they’re idolizing, all these entertainers and let me tell you to any of the entertainers nobody’s, putting you all down nobody’s, calling anybody out specifically we’re just saying that when you get to a certain point in your life, there are certain things that You should know better that you should not do because one Entertainer said well, it’s not my responsibility, those are your children and correct.
It is your responsibility, but it is also our responsibility, but at the end of the day we always don’t know what our kids are going to do once they leave our house.
So I agree, but I disagree.
Okay, they disagree when that I have with when you said that it was easier um, I didn’t say it was easier.
I said just like a smidge: oh, no, listen! Listen! Every generation have its challenges, yeah right, so this generation, the internet, may be their uh Kryptonite.
Yeah and our generation uh, what was it we had uh, I I we barely was just getting it.
We were just well, we were just living yeah.
We were just had the AOL, then, after the AOL.
What was after the AOL because remember first, we had Bieber’s.
Then we had the cell phones, but in order to have the cell phone you had to have money because they were the the big ones and the majority of them were always somebody that owned a car.
Then, after that, then we started getting those cell phones, but the cell phones.
You couldn’t really do anything with them.
So then, after you had the cell phones, you have the one where I forgot, what you call it, but you could do that beep, beep, beep.
Okay, this, this is what I mean so in our generation.
We didn’t have all that right right, but we still had some stuff going on.
However, our community, you know, like they say, product of your environment yeah, because we didn’t have any Outlet in terms of the internet like we had today exposure.
We was confined to what was going on in that Circle and that’s the only far we saw you see what I’m saying.
So I think that to me that is challenging, and I I agree with you you’re right that I mean the more challenging now.
Is the internet? You have more exposure to so many things, but the challenge that we faced was that we were in this little box and that’s all we thought, and so we didn’t think outside the box.
So you have different generations with different problems, but at the same time the same thing still apply to each generation.
Meaning like do you have what it takes to sustain yourself from the power of the internet, the power of your environment, to to rise up? And when I think about someone who pulled themselves by the bootstrap, Frederick Douglass, you see what I’m saying, and I think that today time our community is not mentally strong and our Spirits are not strong.
So I hear so many people talking about um, I’m listening to this person and I’m listening to this person, but I never hear people talking about hey man, I’m reading my word, I’m studying my Bible or, if you’re Muslim instead of the Quran or, if you Jewish, You know hey the Jewish people in their Community, they doing their thing.
You know what I mean and uh.
So yesterday was the Grammys and so uh take off.
No excuse me: God bless them.
God bless my baby.
My bad quavo and offset had a physical altercation, allegedly in the uh in backstage of the Grammy.
It was like.
You know the people wanted offset to perform the song that quavo had dedicated to take off.
However, I also saw the podcast show from million dollars worth the game with uh, Gilly and uh wallow, and they were interviewing Jay, Prince and Jay Prince son and I think a family member named Mike Prince.
I don’t know the relationship to them, but Jay, Prince man that wasn’t that that wasn’t a good look, bro, uh, wallow and and Gilly that wasn’t a good look bro.
That was the worst podcast show that I have ever seen from a million dollars worth of game.
I saw an arrogant man, I saw a very prideful man.
I saw a man that claimed to have compassion.
You got to understand.
This is a homicide.
This is a murder that has happened, and so now uh they trying to use self-defense as the exit to get up out this situation.
You know – and it’s like, I think that we as a community man is doing man we doing ourselves so bad man that we’re not giving our future meaning.
Our kids hope it’s self-inflicting after self-inflicting issues in in things and and and we’re killing ourselves.
Man and I was very disappointed in you – know in Jay Prince because you’re, a man of God, you say you read the Bible, you say you’re, praying man, the scripture said pride comes before the fall and humility comes before the promotion.
There was no humility in that.
I don’t even know why, but you know what wallow and Gilly and wallowing yeah and Gilly they signed a multi-million dollar deal with Barstool Barstool.
I think you should take that episode Down.
I mean think about take our family, his mother, so Jay Prince talking about well.
I talked to p and p Co.
First of all, p is the um.
The CEO of a record label take off was an artist there’s a different relationship compared to his mother and his family.
His father, you see what I’m saying you didn’t speak to the parents and for me you know, I feel some type of way, because I went above and beyond to get your book, The Art of respect in the bookstores and Georgia State University, and now I’m feeling Some type of way, not once did you reach out and say, hey man.
Thank you so much.
I was in contact with your uh, your your PR, lady, the white lady.
I can’t remember her name, but you know that’s that arrogance.
You know I saw no humility.
I saw no God all the videos that you’ve been putting out and then what you try to do is manipulate the mind so in other words, a person to see your video, but then you’ll come on and you’ll say.
Well, that’s not really what you saw.
Oh well, the internet has a way of twisting things, etc, etc, etc.
We saw what we saw bro folks, not no fool.
The other thing is you talk about where cuevo went to Fifth Ward and you y’all just walked around with no Entourage.
Now, I’m from Houston.
Now you know, Houston is Big.
You can be on one.
First of all, you got a leaf.
You got most City, you got harm Clark, you got sun inside.
You got Third Ward, you got Fifth Ward, you got the east side with um over there.
In your Valley, you got.
Staff of Texas.
Houston is extremely big.
Now, Fifth, Ward, is your domains? Is your stamping ground but in, but for you to say that you the voice for the H-Town? I just I don’t know I it’s.
I don’t know because I know that when I was living in Houston like you, didn’t have that type of uh influence on the South Side.
You had it in Fifth Ward, but not on the South Side.
I was living in Houston when the north side and the South Side were killing each other.
You know it was it was.
It was very tragic.
I I’ve seen it so and then you know Jay Prince you end up making afraid man, you probably be the OG bro and then allegedly you heard someone say that take off was saying something about.
You know assaulting you or doing some type of bodily harm to you, allegedly but bro.
You can pick up the phone and call that man bro it’s probably be a role model bro.
Can I give my opinion on that? Yeah? If you, if you look at the hat, that they’re wearing it says, mob ties yeah now, first of all, that’s how he’s trying to come out like what happens.
The other thing is, he has people that do fear Him and that’s not right and, like you said that is not guided.
All you couldn’t go to Dallas with that you couldn’t go to San Antonio.
You say that you’re, a man of God, then you are held to a higher responsibility, much required the whole community and around the world.
You have to be careful of what it is that you are saying because me personally, I could not do business.
I would not not even have a fight or fight any of his Fighters, I just I couldn’t do that say, prince man, I don’t know bro like you know, and our kids could not read that no at first, I was campaigning for our kids to read that Book but lately the the videos that you’ve been you know, part of – and you know – and you talk this talk and this this and you know it’s like you’re, coming off as a bully bro, you know what I mean and if you read the word of God, You you, you will see clearly that every person who thought they was bigger than God and the people of God, God eventually humbled them, took everything away from me.
Bro I mean this to me was not and then bro you bring.
The police report on a podcast show man to you know like that’s, not respect, bro, that’s not honoring the dead bruh.
You bringing this up to try to clear your name or clear your son name for the involvement, allegedly that he was a part of at the end of the day.
This was your son’s event and so by takeoff and quavo coming down there and I’ve seen it.
I’Ve seen the video like two three times and all like crazy.
Now I saw what I saw and you cannot tell me anything different because I’m in a very intelligent black man, you can’t finesse me with that before they bruh that’s cap, man and uh, wallow and Gilly.
Bread y’all should be ashamed for that.
Bro y’all should be ashamed and while are you supposed to be the motivating guy, you know what I’m saying like.
I listen to your motivational uh skits on YouTube.
I understand about you spending 20 years in prison, Etc and then uh, Gilly and Walo is especially uh.
Gilly, the way that you were talking, birds sound like bro, you were scared of the man, bruh and bro you supposed to be from Philadelphia and one thing that I know about Philadelphia: bro, that’s a Blue Collar city and man them folk bird is serious bro.
You feel what I’m saying and man I couldn’t understand that bro like he was scared and all this other type stuff brush with me, but that big cap bruh, you know what I mean and for you to allow this man to come on the million dollars worth The game – I don’t know what game that you was putting on that that episode.
I don’t know you feel what I’m saying now you got immature people telling like yeah uh.
You know mob ties.
First of all, the name Marty just like when Irv got in them had murdered in guess what happened with that? They got raided by the FBI, so, in other words uh, your words are powerful.
You know that J Prince, you know the word of God.
You know that bro and bro you just bro you acting like you invincible bro.
I mean bro for you to bring the police report and then you pimping, uh, uh, Gilly, telling him hey man.
Won’T you read it.
I don’t like bread and Gilly gon na read.
Well, what part give it come on? Bro come on bro come on bro.
That is a violation.
There is no respect for the dead bro.
We dealing with an open case and you come on.
I mean I would assume you would have got some type of legal advice and saying hey don’t talk about that because it’s under the investigation – but you know Lee right now – J Prince can just do whatever he wants to do whenever he wants to do.
But all things do eventually come to an end, so so we don’t need to be learning from this situation at all bro.
It’S not a good situation.
It’S not it’s! Not good luck! That’S not how you do great.
That’S not that’s! Not even great networking! Believe! That’S! That’S cap, bro, that’s cat bro and then give yourself an injustice and then, as you know, you’re coming on you’re showing oh and I’m not gon na lie.
I love the Ghetto Boys.
I grew up on Ghetto Boys.
That’S Outkast and Ghetto boys are like my two favorite groups.
I mean and Goodie Mob, all three of them, my window.
How nobody? You know the boys talk with substance bro.
You know what I mean: Goodie Mob Ghetto Boys outcasts, them boys talking substance.
They ain’t talking about you know, so they talking that real gangster, but then they talk about the consequences they talking about.
Other things, too, you feel me and like what really you know, Disturbed me was that you go on a podcast show, and I know the sponsors.
Amsterdam, Vodka is not co-signing you allowing people to come on the platform and threaten somebody bruh.
They make a threat.
I mean come on.
Jay Prince you saying that you heard that you got people ears, you know to the streets and they told you, and so, if you talk to Pete, then you need a guy dog on being able to talk to that dog on me.
I’M set, then, on top of that you’re gon na tell a man, oh well, because you wasn’t there well every family, every group, everyone has issues bro.
You know what I’m saying.
Everyone has disagreement.
There is no perfect family bro, but at the end of the day, man them boys are family blood at that bro.
So for you to tell say that offset shouldn’t, be you know feeling a certain type of way.
You don’t know the whole story you just going on with this that neck.
You know what I mean, so emotions are hot.
If anything you should have came on and be like, hey man, I just want to continue to lift them up in prayer man.
You know what, because it’s an open investigation, I really don’t want to talk about this, but you that’s not you.
You feel like you’re, the big dog you.
You know what I’m saying you want that type of respect, but it’s a lot of stuff.
Now, Josh Prince you know he a player, you don’t never see him.
You know he in a backdrop.
He always you know he stay out the way.
You know what I’m saying you know and unfortunately he’s a part of that, because his last name is Prince and I know he gon na ride with his family.
But Josh is a good dude bro.
If you know what I’m saying I ride with Josh, you know I say my opinion about Jay, Prince Jr.
You know what I’m saying for another day another time, but I’m not here to talk about nobody.
This didn’t answer the third I’m just seeing as a as a leader in the community that has a reputable reputation.
The outstanding face card, like you know, my face card, is a one.
You get what I’m saying from from Congress to the streets, to the pulpit to the uh to the school system, and I I ain’t doing no rapping.
I ain’t entertaining nobody.
I ain’t playing no ball or nothing it just straight, getting it out the mud man, but you know I’m tired of these kids.
On another note, I’m tired of these kids uh fighting Sheila, you hear me yeah.
Is that a good little thing? You tell me, because I want to know you you tell me, as a black woman when you see these black kids threatening the bus driver to come pick them up when me, and you then saw these these videos where these kids was walking like 10 miles.
One way to go to school to sit in his room and they were going to school just to be able to drink some powdered milk because they ain’t had no food and when they was crossing the uh the river to go on the other side.
Sometimes they uh they’re on cliffs, they on cliffs they climbing to go to school, and yet the bus come pick them up and then they fighting.
Then man, you got these little kids talking about yeah, I’m different.
You know what I’m saying yeah, I’m about that light.
You feel me, you know what I’m saying about that life and you haven’t even lived life like that, it’s disappointing, I I it’s.
Maybe we should be ashamed of ourselves.
That’S too much of the man! That’S why! Well, we do not play with these kids in the staff of boxing club because boy, I don’t play it’s yes, sir.
No sir.
Yes, ma’am, no ma’am.
If you ain’t doing it, but you stay here, they know.
I don’t play.
Oh boy, I don’t even play the internet radio, but that is no cappuccino.
Bro I don’t play I do, but me and this woman here we do not play when it comes to these kids.
You can’t play with them man and then now it’s like the older generation trying to act like the new generation to be your partner, hey bro, listen, I ain’t trying to be young, I’m an elder! Now! If you know what I’m saying I I want my respect.
I demand it, I earn it, I’m getting your respect, but when you in my presence in my circle, my donut, oh bro, you got to come with it, bro, no caps, you got to come with it and I’m just tired of like it seems like we are Devaluing education, so when we do have black uh um activists to protest about hey man, we need more resources in our community and you know the government like well what are y’all doing.
Well, you got a higher crime rate here there.
You know what I’m saying.
Yes, we live in a systemic system, I mean we do.
I mean we do.
How else can only do so? Much much.
I mean at some point man baby.
Listen we be talking about now.
I’M gon na use my situation.
Man listen.
I grew up in foster homes, group homes, uh TYC.
If you don’t know what TYC is Texas youth commission, I will bound over today I was really bad.
I was really about that.
Like matter of fact, as Charleston white about TYC, you know what I’m saying: he’ll, let you know I was part of that, and you know what TYC gave me an opportunity to use the resources to get my life together.
Bro because I was on because in all actuality I was one step from going to the youth Penitentiary.
I was getting in so much trouble that uh Texas Department of Juvenile Justice told me they said: hey man look bro, we binding you over to TYC and they had Shackled me put hand a shackle.
My feet.
Uh put me in this custom-made vehicle drove me to Nacogdoches Texas, baby, stop that Whataburger had a water burger and some fries in the cold.
I went to uh, it’s called Uh, it’s it’s a place where they hold you and they decide what they gon na do.
With you, and so we ain’t good now I ain’t gon na lie baby.
We ain’t good, but they said where you want to go.
I said man send me back to the H-Town man.
I told them that they said all right.
We’Re gon na reach.
Out to these to these uh Residential Treatment, Centers co-ed, they got boys and girls, so they came to me.
He said they kind of called me in the conference room and say well this this this uh, this Center denied you all right boom.
They call me back in a couple days later said this one did not went back denied me.
I got denied four times.
They said it’s one more Center in Texas in Houston that we’re gon na reach out to and if they don’t accept, you you’re going across the street to the youth Penitentiary and I’m talking about it’s the penitentiary man for youth offenders and may I got on my Knees I prayed – I said Lord, please I don’t go to that.
You pay attention bro, I’m talking about.
You got the guy in the tower with the gun.
You got them boys in white suit, with the with with the blue stripe and walking in the single foul line.
Oh it’s serious.
I’M talking about barbed wire fences.
I mean it’s, it’s a huge penitentiary, but God lord Jesus help me.
He saw something in me and he spared me, but at the same time I had to make a decision that I don’t want to go down that road.
So when I see these kids doing this crazy stuff, I’m like Brad, do you know what awaits you? They think it’s a game and being this thing you know when you get up in front of that judge, we’re gon na be crying.
Please please! No! You should have thought about that.
You know what I’m saying 90 for the go to the chain game.
Now you ain’t, no, your partners, or you know you’re gon na – have to go, get a stick.
Now, bro, you ain’t go strap up and when I mean strap up, you don’t have to tie your shoes.
You want to go up in that scene.
You know you want to put it down with them.
Boys, man, it’s real, so man, that’s why we are very passionate about education.
We know both of us know where education has done for us.
Both of us know what a library can do for you it’s.
It is it is, it is the most resourceful thing in your community every every kid in the staff of boxing program.
Oh they got library cards.
That’S that’s a requirement.
You don’t have no library card man, you ain’t part of yourself man, because we teaching them how to go.
Get that that knowledge.
So, like back in the day, dude you just put some.
You know some work in your hand.
Till you go get some money.
You feel what I’m saying we don’t do that we put a library in your car and tell you hey you better.
Go get that knowledge.
You see what I’m saying so that knowledge gon na help you how to get that money.
They’Re gon na tell you how to maintain it.
It’S gon na tell you how to grow it.
It’S gon na tell you from other people testimonies the scriptures say we overcome by the blood of the lamb and the word in our testimony.
So when we so when you read people biographies, that’s their testimony, sure is so.
I see you wrote a note.
So okay yeah go ahead and tap on that babe, okay! Well, first of all, I want to say, because I was going to say this before that you are a walking testimony before the younger generation and our generation and the older generation to do what needs to be done and for it to be done properly.
So so you’re right, don’t do that? Don’T do that so now we are talking about promoters, our promoters fair, and what I do want to start off with is some of the responsibilities that the promoters have.
So we have the promoters.
We have the Matchmaker and then we have the manager, okay, so the promoters we well.
We have a big responsibility, number one.
You have to make sure that you go to your State commission’s office.
Some states may or may not have it, but that would really be the first step and you can, of course do that on the internet, which makes it easier – and you also have to research on the state laws, the state law that you live in or even, If you’re having it in New York or Nevada and you might live somewhere else, you’re still going to have to be familiar with that and they do.
I started reading over and I do have vocabulary words for you, but promoters also have to make sure they have a bond.
They have to have the insurance fill out.
The application have to pay.
The application fee have to pay for the boxers, the manager, the Matchmaker and everybody you have to pay for all the fees you have to have all of that all up front and then, of course, you have to wait for the Commission office to say yes or No then, of course, you have to make sure that, where you’re going to have the fight at and of course, if you’re just starting out, you can have it at a club, you can have it at a bar.
Also, you can have it at your local gym and you have to make sure that the venue is also paid for you have to make sure about the capacity, because when you sell the tickets, you don’t want to.
You know be over that because then that way, if you do then you’re going to have to pay a fine for that, and you have to make sure that you pay for the Ring.
The Ring has to be a certain size.
It has to be not even to certain size, whether it’s for amateur or for the professional fight, but it has to be set up a certain way, a number of inches that it has to be from off the ground.
You also have to have the spit bucket.
You have to have the stools, make sure you have the tables for the press conference, the chairs for the press conference.
Everything for that.
You also have to hire your staff.
So when I say staff, that’s like your physician, physician, the um, the judges, the referee and also the the corner, man, that’s going to be making sure that if you have any cuts on your face and they take care of you and all that other stuff – and You have to have both of that for both both Fighters, like the stools and the spit buckets and the towels for both of the fighters, so promoters also have to pay everybody as well, the physician even for the EMTs, just in case something happens.
They have to have a spot just in case something happens.
It’S a lot that the promoter has to go through, as well as promoting the fight marketing the fight advertising, advertising for the fight making sure that the tickets are being sold, and also is it going to be televised negotiations for that as well.
Now some promoters might do the matchmaking, but if you do there’s a website that you can actually go to where you can find a license match makers, but for a Matchmaker what they do is they have to read on the opponent to see what their boxing record Is because they have to compare the boxers evenly, that’s what they do now.
The managers also have a big responsibility.
They have to make sure that about their training, their interest is, with their fighter, making sure that the fighter is getting paid.
Make sure that the the pay is fair, that’s what the manager does with some other responsibilities as well, but it’s like this is my client.
This is who I’m responsible for to make sure everything is going smoothly and even working out the fights as well.
The promoter also made sure that paperwork – oh yeah, so they have to yeah.
They have to make sure of all that because even receipts to the commission ticket sales, just everything.
So that’s the promoter’s responsibility and I didn’t go through everything.
But that’s like the major part.
So then, those that don’t know that’s just some of the responsibilities that the promoter actually has to go through Bailey makes a question: do you believe like who are some of your good promoters that you think are good uh? I mean I think, Eddie Hearn now Eddie Hearn has been having a few issues with a few of his boxers.
Some of them have left and that’s because of exposure, there’s not a lot of exposure being done with them, but then there’s something that he is doing.
That has to be right, because I see him the majority of the time.
Now it’s like Eddie Hearn, Eddie heard days in d-a-z-n, so I’ve really been seeing him.
I mean you can always learn from somebody, whether when they make their mistakes and then what they’re doing good and he’s also been promoting like having the fights with females like the Katie Taylor and the Amanda Serrano fight is definitely going to be on.
I would say he’s promoting that.
I think so yeah uh, what about um Bob Avon? Do you think he’s a good promoter? Well, I think he is he.
I don’t think he he would have been in the game this long if he was not a good promoter.
I think, like we talked about before he has to get a little bit more hip to the down and not stick into the old ways.
I think he could be balanced with it.
He can still stick with some of the old ways, but then he does have to get him to the new ways.
So I don’t see I mean I think, with certain promoters like with Terence.
It was like a breach of contract with him.
Allegedly, it was a breach of contract and something else I just think from what I’ve been seeing with some of the promoters.
It’S the the newer Fighters that are having a difficult time getting the exposure and the fights some of the promoters are more into the the ones that, like the heavyweights, like the um uh, like the Ryan, Garcia, like the ones that are like there like they’re right There and it’s really not going to take a lot to have to promote them and do all that work.
That’S what I’ve been seeing.
So it’s like the the newer boxers they’re having an issue like Edgar berlanga.
He left with top rank.
He left with top rank because they were just going a little bit too slow with him.
I actually I wrote that down.
He spoke with Al Haymon Floyd and Oscar and Eddie Hearn.
So what do you think about Oscar De La Hoya as a promoter well hold on one second, so yeah? He spoke with them, and Oscar De La Hoya also spoke with Terence Crawford.
Oh wow.
He also spoke with Terence Crawford.
Now Oscars said that he made a tweet and he actually said that he wants to put the great fights out that the fans want to see.
Let’S go, I just kind, I didn’t say a word for word: I paraphrased it.
Let me just put that out there.
So we don’t get into trouble what about um Al Haymon? What you think about him? Okay, now I can kind of see what Rick Glaser was talking about when he was talking without because all right, so with the arrow and the Terence, apparently Al allegedly doesn’t want to have that fight.
Just in case Arrow doesn’t win that fight he’ll lose what he already has and he wanted to sign.
Terence Crawford, but Terence Crawford didn’t want to sign with him, and what I also been reading in my research is that a lot of the fighters listen to their promoters, because the promoters know what they’re doing they’ve been in the game and have gotten them to where They first started to where they are now so it’s like the boxers are like I want to do this.
I want to fight uh this fighter, but if I do and if it doesn’t go right, then the promoter is going to say see.
I told you so so it’s like that fear that they have and that’s another reason why Edgar left too, because he wants to have a decision, be a part of the decision on who he wants to fight now, Canelo he left with Oscar because he wanted his Full payment after the fight – and he wanted to have the final say-so of who he was going to fight, because allegedly there were things that were being told to to the streaming, which is days in that he didn’t even know.
So there were promises that were being made about him that he really didn’t even know.
So when Terry Moss said the relationship between the promoter and the fighter is that trust and the trust has to be the key factor.
Now I had a few – maybe some things that might help oh and also the boxer’s purse.
When the boxer gets paid, he has to pay the trainer and he has to pay the manager and the promoter gets 33.
3 percent out of the boxer’s purse.
That hurts a new boxer, of course, when they’re just coming into the game.
Now I did read that in in the UK that a manager will not take any part of the boxer’s purse until that boxer is actually making that type of money.
So what I was thinking is – and just let me know if this is a something that could be done now, if you have a trainer and a manager and say if you have a gym, what about having the trainer and the manager just on a salary um, But then, when the fight comes, I mean I mean, is it right? I guess when I’m this is what I’m thinking.
This is, where my mind is thinking.
Okay, you have an employee and you’re paying your employee.
What that employee is supposed to do right, so we’re not taking any money personally out of their pocket only for taxes, because we have to because if we don’t we’re going to get into trouble, so how I’m wondering? How can you or how could we or someone try to take less out of the Fighter’s purse, especially if they’re a new fighter like? Is there a way that you can actually do that everything is negotiable? I think that I think you know I’m not trying.
You know everything is negotiable.
I just think that both sides have to be comfortable with what’s being negotiated, so maybe the promoter can get uh on the back end it it’s ways to to to to to work out a situation.
You just have to negotiate it, but I think a lot of times these boxers are don’t have that negotiation skill at this juncture of the journey they’re new to it, Etc.
They you know trying to they trying to get out of a very hardship position, because you know becoming a fighter is what a prize fighter is very difficult, and you have to you know, dedicate a lot of your time.
So you may not have the financial resources that, like uh Canelo or you know, Cruz or some of the other Premier uh household names that we hear about all the time but Sheila.
I I I wanted to say that man, I really love your uh, your research and, and you know your detail to uh to your craft.
I see that you put in a lot of work and – and I was being enlightened and educated on some things, because you know we work together and we do different things.
But we come together because, because we won but just to hear you talk about the description of a promoter and you’re breaking it down, I was really impressed by that and just two other things so how they make their money.
It’S a ticket sales, a percentage of the purse money which that goes to the manager, the sparring partners and the trainer and then, once again, what I said was the 33.
3 percent goes to the promoter and also the government also is the biggest winner as well, but Nevada has no income tax state income tax and the federal income tax rate is 39.
6 of prize winnings, so the government is like the biggest winner of them all.
So I mean it’s just something to think about, but I’m also thinking about the money that the promoter has to put up has to put up to.
So maybe something like this: if you have a new fighter, if there’s a way – and you have your own gym – because that’s some of the percentage of the purse too – that you would go to the gym.
But if you have a gym, then you don’t have to mess with that purse or anything like that.
So I’m trying to look out for all of the fighters.
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That’S what we do, because I don’t believe.
Well, we don’t believe in taking advantage of anybody.
We just we do understand it’s a business.
Yeah, it’s a big, it’s a business.
You know you got to make a profit crooked, but not greed, yeah greed.
You can’t be greedy greedy that, but I know that we do have to make a profit so yeah, it’s it’s a lot that God goes goes on with it even having the two hired the announcer secured.
I forgot about the security, because you have to make sure that you can the the fans can come in safely and properly, because that’s something else too fans do do not like, and they will complain about it if they can’t get out on time and there’s a Lot of traffic if the security isn’t directing them correctly, that’s something else too.
So don’t do that.
I will call you out, but I was just trying to make sure you’re.
All right, though, see listen, I’m into details.
Why? What was it right? I was doing something: no, no I’ll tell you, but please, oh my bad, Oh I thought you were sending me a q or something I was going to call you out, but um speaking of that.
So I want to say this before we wrap it up.
Is there anything else you want to talk about, see, listen, let me tell y’all something so what my wife did she wrote me a note.
She said: hey, I’m gon na need to talk about it before we get up out of here.
All right boom see.
That’S teamwork and I don’t have no, I don’t have no ill feelings.
I ain’t mad or nothing like that.
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Late.
24 hours a day you get up in the middle of the night, you crank on the light midnight oil burning you’re getting into it.
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Hey man.
Listen, you know what I was gon na say something.
No.
When you said everything that need to be said, I don’t want.
I don’t want to override what you said.
We’Re going to end on your note.
Uh you’ve done a great job, I’m proud of you! I love you continue to do great work all right and let’s get on everybody here thanks and let’s get ready for next week.
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