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EPISODE: Episode 1
Today, to start the show, it seems the recent decision by USA Boxing, and their “new” policy regarding transgender athletes, has created a bit of a firestorm among the women who compete in the ring, and on social media, then preview a few upcoming fights including Tina Rupprecht, Natasha Jonas and Mikaela Mayer, and this spring Jessica McCaskill vs Ivana Habazin, and – transitioning back to the men – we also see Bivol and Beterbiev will go toe to toe this year in Saudi Arabia, and conclude with some news from the heavyweight division.
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Thank you for joining me once again here on talk and fight for another episode of boxing news today from boxing headquarters here at talk and fight in Toronto, Canada.
Let’S start off with what is certainly making the way across the headlines, uh with respect to uh women, specifically transgender women uh, so in other words uh women who started off life uh as as a man or a boy uh who now want box and compete against Uh other women in the sport, so USA, boxing has adopted a new policy regarding transgender athletes and, quite frankly, it’s infuriating certain people across uh.
The Spectrum advocates for Trans women’s participation in the female category are pointing to some of the harshest restrictions in sport, whereas people who oppose trans women in the female category upset there’s any path to participate paid for them.
Uh, the WBC, as you know, on the international stage, has barred trans women uh from the female category saying they will build a transgender category in other countries.
Governing bodies like BX New Zealand have also followed suit.
So the uh policy has a number of key elements to it.
First, every athlete under 18 must compete in the category corresponding to their sex corresponding to their sex assigned at Birth.
This flies in the face of many of the more uh strict trans inclusion policies and sports, which allow for athletes to compete in their gender category as long as they haven’t experience puberty.
Yet in boxing a 15-year-old trans girl, who’s been on puberty blocker, since they were 10 still has to compete in the male category.
Second, adult boxers, who have had a gender reassignment surgery uh for years, Sports governing bodies have moved away from this requirement.
So the return to this requirement for USA boxing is putting the push forward.
Uh toward broader trans inclusion in Reverse uh third adult boxers have to show they have had testosterone levels under five nanomoles per liter for four years prior to competing.
That four years is the longest weight period for any sport that allows trans women to compete in the female category.
Now uh boxing uh, you sorry, USA boxing is facing widespread criticism for their policy and, at this point, considered the strictest in sports.
On one side, people are critical that the band has any path to participate for trans women in the boxing females category, where whe the policy mandated four years or 10 years uh I’ll, never agree to this said: uh the ebony Bridges, it’s bad enough.
Having trans women breaking records in other sports like track and field swimming and powerlifting, but it’s a bit different to them, breaking our skulls in combat Sports, where the aim is to hurt you not just to break a record now, the skulls line has been used to Target trans aete and Combat Sports ever since Fallon Fox competing in professional mixed martial arts six years ago after her transition broke the eye orbital of an opponent.
U critics say she broke her skull simply because it sounds worse.
Um Michaela may had this to say on Twitter or X.
Hormone therapy is banned by default.
This should make trans athletes ineligible for competition.
Doesn’T matter how you feel about the situation fact.
Is it’s illegal and completely disrupts an even playing field that Sports work so hard to create um Riley Gaines, the former College swimmer, who came to prominence arguably publicly against trans women in female sports after competing against Leah Thomas said, a trans woman will end up killing A female boxer mark my words: it will take a woman getting killed before these misogynistic fools wake up, wow, so uh, it’s making the headlines believe me: Google, it and you’ll see every single major newspaper, not just uh boxing pages online.
Every single newspaper that I can see uh is taking up uh one side of the other.
Of this mainly is news uh.
But let’s have a look.
Uh Clarissa Shield said um.
This is, I don’t know not the right decision um.
You know, as I said, uh ebony Bridges has spoken out.
Michaela may has spoken out, ebony Bridges continues, in fact I don’t care about political correctness.
It’S Politically Incorrect to have a m, a man fighting a woman, and I don’t care that’s exactly what it is.
The society’s too too soft this is our health and our safety.
The girls need to stick together or women’s sport in 50 years will be filled with male born Champions, and she added it’s bad enough.
Having trans wom break records in other sports like track and field.
As I said earlier, swiming a powerlifting, but it’s a bit different to have them breaking our skulls and Combat Sports, where the aim is to hurt you not just to break a record.
It ain’t just about the test levels, what their bone density is a heap of.
Other biological factors, cutting your bits off and adding boobs won’t take back the masculine maturity.
Your body has gone through before you decided you’re now a woman.
It does get uh more convoluted, I suppose, depending on what side of the fence you’re on, but let’s uh.
Let’S go back into the uh boxing world that we know today, uh because we have some fights upcoming.
I see, including quite a few women.
Let’S talk about few of them, uh um, one of the more petite fighters in in the boxing world.
Yet, who has certainly made a name for herself Tina, rupe uh is back in the headlines as well.
Looks like she’s got a fight lined up uh against uh.
Let’S have a quick look here.
I knew this name a second ago.
Um.
Sorry, sorry, sorry, it’s a long article uh remember: Rupa uh defended her WBC Bel more than two occasions uh after beating yosta Valley back few years ago, uh and they were supposed to fight again, but they they didn’t.
They got cancelled.
So anyway, on January 13th, rpr returns home to Germany to challenge WBC atwe world champion Fabiana btii.
The lightest division of boxing might be R’s new home for the foreseeable future.
If she dethrones reigning champion and becomes only the fourth WBC champion, at2 few pounds in its 16-year history, said rupe, we know each other from social media.
I’M happy to fight with her, because I’ve always looked at Adam weight, she’s very tall 5.
Foot4 remember.
Rpr is 4 foot 10 H for this class and I know her style.
I think it’s going to be a very good fight for me.
It won’t be a problem because my normal weight is minimum weight.
105.
I didn’t have L much to lose for minimum weight, so I think it’s not a big problem for me to now be 102 pounds, although she’ll have to be careful to avoid temptation training throughout the entire Christmas period.
I have to be careful.
She admits no cookies, but it’s okay, uh for someone who turn pro like uh to the likes of Katie Taylor and Amanda Serrano Clarissa Shield, Savannah Marshall selling at Major International Arenas.
Rupe is delighted by The Accelerated growth of women’s boxing since 2013.
When I look back at the beginning of my career, there was almost nothing in women’s boxing.
Now there are more and more unification fights Undisputed fights is so cool.
What’S happening right now, the money’s still bad compared to what the men earn for their fights, but I think it’s getting better ktie Taylor and Amanda Serrano have been good example for that.
I hope it goes this way you cannot compared to 10 years ago.
It has exploded so speaking of explosions, let’s talk about Natasha Jonas Michaela mayor who will be going toe-to-toe on January 20th, uh box, that’s Boxx Ben shalom’s company promoted uh the card, and it’s going to take place in Liverpool uh.
Now now why this has hit the the headlines, I suppose is because it’s scheduled for the ibf world Welterweight Title over 10 rounds, two minimum H per round two sorry two minutes per round Michaela Mar would like it to go over 12 rounds, though, and at three Minutes per round uh, to which NAT Natasha Jones calls for cash upgrade.
So if the, if the Michaela mayor bout, is three minute rounds, natas Jonas would consider facing Michaela may over three minute period, three minute rounds, if uh, if there’s more money on the table, so basically in a nutshell, uh she’s, saying uh it opens Jonah says it Opens a can of worms, we want fairer pay.
No one is saying we want equal pay, but it’s got to be fair and show that if you’re going to do more rounds, then you’re GNA get more money.
That would be a good thing for his part Ben Shalom boxer uh in another article on the net said the following Ben Shalom claims.
The three minute round debate is in women’s boxing is about entertainment and what allows us to grow the sport H and as a promoter says, we’ll get there, but insists it’s up to the fighters um anyway.
That debate continues.
It’S good to see.
Jess mcal is about to get back in.
The ring looks like she has a a fight set with Ivana habazin, that’s set for April 20th to take place in Croatia after narrowly escaping 20123, with her WBC and WBA welterweight titles in toe uh, Jess mcll is set for an away game when she meets saana.
Habazin on April 20th, in the latter’s native Croatia, no words no word yet on broadcast rights.
Maybe I should throw my two cents um.
It’S been a rough 14ish months from killer uh 12 and three five Knockouts starting November 22 lost to Shantel camera and a bid to become the two- weight.
Undisputed.
The Detour cost her her ibf and WBO welterweight belts and to make matters worse.
Matum got smoked in the purse, bid for her mandatory defense against abin at 25, 22 and five by the way, seven Knockouts uh that would uh that would up falling through that would up falling through guys.
A bad left hook made a little bit of mistake there anyway leading habazin to move up to 154 and unsuccessfully challenged Terry Harper maill instead took on Sandy Ryan, who claimed the offer mentioned, who claimed the offer mentioned at WBO belt and turned an arguably wor career Worst effort on on route to a bogus draw habazin returned to the top of the queue her promoter again won.
The p when matchroom sat out – and now here we are Ryan – was not impressed with the matchmaking by the way uh posting on X.
Let’S call it the poop icon, uh habazin has always come up short in the big ones, but mcll seems to have lost his step and European.
Judging is rarely beholden to reality.
Assuming mascal takes the fight which isn’t a guarantee.
Who knows what will happen, but what will happen is Demetri bivel and Arthur bidf, an anticipated Clash set now to take place in Saudi Arabia.
In this upcoming year, WBA 175 pound champ Demitri bivel has Inked his part of the contract to battle for the light heavyweight.
Undisputed Championship taking place in Saudi Arabia in 2024 against ibf WB and WBO champ, Arthur berv, Dimitri, has talked non-stop about wanting to fight for the Undisputed Championship since his victory over Canelo Alvarez last year and he’s now on the prpose of getting his wish.
If BB comes through in his next fight for the fight to take place, however, the 39y old, better BF, 19 and0 19 Knockouts – must defeat his number one.
Mandatory uh Challenger WBC, that’s Callum Smith 29-1.
We talked about it.
Yesterday has taking place January 13th at the center video Tron in Quebec City.
Canada, if better be have loses the fight, which is very possible, but I doubt it.
The clash between him and biville will not happen.
Um.
This is a dangerous fight for better BV.
As the six for Smith is in the prime of his career motivated and looking powerful, if Callum shows the same form as he has since moving up to 175 in 2021, he wins the fight by knockout, which is what Eddie Hearn said.
He would do consider better.
Be isn’t what he once was when he fought in the 2012 Olympics and arguably beat Alexander yusk in that competition um Dan Raphael is reporting that the 33y old bivel has signed his part of the contract for better bef.
It’S not to better BF.
To do his part to make that fight happen, but will age diminish the spectacle? The fight between better BF and bille has been talked about for the last six years, and it’s too bad.
It’S taken this long as it would have had more meaning if it had happened when Artur was younger, BV has slowed down the last two years, it’s harder for him to land his crushing shots like he used to.
If the fight with bivel does happen, it’s going to be difficult for Better B to connect against a younger and faster opponent, who will box and not take chances With Better B, have nearing 40 years old.
What credit will biville receive from the fans if he defeats him the Casual fans who aren’t aware of better be of his age and how late in his career, the fights Tak place? They’Ll be impressed, but the hardcore fans will view this as another example of a clash as marinated too long, yeah for sure all right, uh, some heavyweight news, an eight round heavyweight Crossroads fight between 6 fo3 260 pound Dante, Stone, 14 And1 and 6’4 230 pound Alexander.
The Great Flores uh will be the first streamed pro boxing match of 2024.
This Thursday evening, at the famed Emerald, Queen Casino in Tacoma Washington, the 10- round main event is headlined by undefeated 6’7 27 275 pound Prospect, Goran Bigg H, haasan 4 and0, who has matched against the dangerous Colby Madison 116 and2 uh havav nessan, is coming off an Impressive six round knockout over Michael polite coffee, also 6 fo5, 275 pound Olympian heavyweight Sone, rova 3 and0 will be show CED in a sixr co-feature against undefeated Dante WIlliams, 40.
The card is presented by Toro promotions and witfield ha and boxing and will be streamed, live on boxing TV for a whopping, 1999 uh.
One last thing to mention before I sign off today, sad news, uh, pretty famous boxing manager Cameron Duncan, has passed away.
We’Re sad to report the passing of Fain boxing promoter manager, Cameron Duncan in Las Vegas at the age of 67.
After a battle with cancer, Duncan managed current ibf Welterweight Champion Jam boots Annis and has worked with the likes of Terence Crawford Timothy Bradley Kelly, pavick nanito Donaire, Diego corales Mikey, Garcia, Brandon, Rios Steve, Johnson, Freddy Norwood, Steve Lano, Johnny, toia, Mark Johnson, Danny Romero, and dozens More over a career span, four plus decades rest in peace, my friend, and there you have it boxing fans appreciate you joining me today.
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