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EPISODE: Episode 1
Our group of panelists, including Tim Witherspoon, provide another weekly roundup of boxing headlines and an array of updates about upcoming bouts and boxers – and share current events and news with the many fans across the world that enjoy the great sport of Boxing!
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Oh yeah, hello, boxing fans around the world thanks for joining me once again here with Mike Gore for another episode of the Friday night panel here on talking fight, and are we going to talk some fight today, Mike or what? Oh, my God, all right, we’ve got.
Some big ones coming up.
Oh yes, we do.
We do boys, not big girls.
Yes, yes, big yeah, big all around.
Actually, I’m kind of excited this one’s gon na be uh an excellent fight um, let’s start with the uh Marshall versus Cruz, discern yeah, sure yeah.
So um – sorry, I didn’t know this until this week – actually she’s not only a fashion designer but she’s, also a singer and uh, and her manager has a set up her own record label.
I did not know that either.
All I know is that she is how you say: a baddie, a baddie in the boxing world.
Yes, French on cruise discern Savannah Marshall and Natasha Jonas and Kenny Wyatt World title double header.
Two stream in the US live on ESPN and Sky Sports, guys Marshall becomes first woman to headline UK’s two largest Arenas when she challenges French on cruise discern for the Undisputed World Super middle Championship.
On July 1st, so hey happy Canada Day to us.
That’S right! What what a great happy Canada Day, what a great present for Canada to get is this wonderful event that we get to watch um Jonas defends um! You know her unified World title uh, Manchester’s, Mark Heffron, defends British Championship versus zachelli uh future box office, Stars Ben Whitaker and Callum Simpson joined the card, so this one’s gon na be good, uh, Savannah Marshall, 12-1, now 10K is on the track to land a record Setting one and two this summer as she follows: October’s sellout of the O2 London uh, the UK’s largest Arena by headlining, the sold out show at the AO Manchester Arena, the UK’s second largest Arena, and this one’s taking place Saturday July 1st guys the Undisputed World Super Middle Championship will be on the line when Marshall walks out to challenge Cruz De xeron who’s, eight one with two Catos and becomes the first female boxer ever to headline the UK’s two largest Arenas in back-to-back events wow so previously set to occupy the and coh occupy The co-headline slot the Undisputed world championship belt now takes Main Event status as Liam Smith postpones his rematch uh with bitter rival Chris Eubank Jr to recover from a minor but nagging injury, which has dodged.
Uh Dodges training camp uh, the two antagonists set as a pay-per-view record for their fur uh for their weight class uh when they fought in January and both Smith won a fourth round stoppage and a stellar support card was put in place for their highly anticipated rematch, Which was also set uh to air as a Sky Sports box office, Pay-Per-View event uh with two World titles, uh Liverpool’s, Natasha, Miss chibi Jonas.
Thirteen two and one uh with akos is set to defend her unified World light medal championship at the event, plus a guaranteed fireworks.
British super middleweight title fight pitting Manchester’s Mark kid Dynamite, Heffron, 29, 2-1, with 23k sales against Zach Kelly who’s, 13 101, with six kills that stacked under card now becomes a stat event which will Air live on Sky Sports network uh and boxer has today also announced That every fan entering the arena, our drivers will be issued a 10 or 20 food and beverage voucher.
Wow did you say ten dollars or ten quits, sorry, sorry, 10, pounds, 10, pound or 20 pound.
That’S right! That’S right, 10 or 20 pounds! That’S a lot of money over here, a lot of beers, uh yeah, another Prospect heavily tipped by boxing Insider Tom Simpson, uh who’s 11-0 uh with nine narcos.
He Journeys from his native Yorkshire on July 1st, to make his second boxer appearance following His stunning third round.
Stoppage in the same venue in March, so this uh this card is looking pretty stacked, so guys get ready for this.
One set your pvrs.
If you uh have other plans because it is uh.
You know, Canada Day for all those Canadians out there that are watching uh, because I know you guys are going to be busy celebrating like I will be uh as soon as this shows over I’m getting started early.
So I don’t know about you guys, but uh.
Definitely it’s uh shooting up to be a big one, uh some great fights on this card uh April Hunter.
Take it on uh, Christy bovington is on this one as well uh, which you get a great fight man and uh yeah.
Is that killing Mark Jeffries uh? You know Callum Simpson, Boris Carrington, this one’s good, I’m looking forward to see Ben Whitaker back out uh taking on Vladimir bulusky.
So this is a this.
Is a nice stacked her? What are your thoughts on a grim uh like you, I’m looking forward to it um? I didn’t really see much of uh Cruz discern as she was moving up, the rank so to speak, but I remember seeing that last fight last year and she absolutely clobbered someone uh camera who she was fighting, but I just remember going wow this woman could fight Uh so anyway, so I’m looking forward to it because I mean the British are all hyped up, uh about Savannah and uh.
You know trying to reclaim if you will, because this is a rematch uh heard her title, but I don’t think she’s going to, I think Cruz dessern’s gon na take it so anyway, that’s my quick thought: she’s, a heavy hitter she’s got those uh she’s got those Big Club hands man she’s got them them, put you out kind of kind of power.
So definitely this is going to be a big one.
I’M excited to see uh, I’m actually excited to see the return.
This event, at Marshall, to be honest, uh, see how she’s doing since uh.
You know her last outing uh.
This is gon na be great.
You know good for her uh setting up this wonderful, this wonderful uh, I guess historical making Thing by headlining.
Two major Arenas – uh, you you know in your home home country, man, that’s gon na be huge yeah.
It’S interesting.
Also.
Let me have a quick look here.
Um because ESPN has been strongly supporting not only this fight but women fighters in general, yes and uh, you know they’re continually uh touting if you will uh who’s up and coming in the various divisions.
So it’s interesting to see like who, who are these up and comers like names that we may not have heard of uh last year in front of me, I swear, I would know some of these names because, okay, let me okay, so we know that uh candy Wyatt lost to just mccaskill, okay, we’ve heard of those names we’ve heard of Cali rice, we’ve heard of uh, Christina lineardu uh, but then you’ve got uh women like uh jaisa, Marcel who’s, fighting Carla Camila Campos, Gonzalez, uh coming up uh in in Buenos Aires.
We’Ve got Maria monio 12-1; a contender lightweight from Uruguay, takes on Alice Sanchez uh.
Last Saturday, Sarah Borman uh ESPN’s number third number.
Three straw weight picked up the unanimous decision win over Perla Perez in Germany and it might be time for Borman.
Wow 17-0 didn’t know that to leave Germany where she’s fought all but one of her Pro bouts, tough challenge in the United Kingdom or United States.
Oh there you go shoot anyway.
It says here it should be a good fight for cenizia, Estrada or yokosta Valley, yeah yeah and Newcastle Valley sitting at the top of that division too right, and so so ESPN’s number three middleweight Emma cozen, who we’ve we’ve talked about.
Uh beat Tummy bilak in a junior middleweight bout, uh secretary fight for cozin, now 23-11 by the way, Junior middleweight and Bellic 709 lost four of the last five fights but anyway, so it it goes through.
The various uh anyways a good article by ESPN, and I give him credit for giving us that information um.
So where the heck am I like there.
Yes, I’m sorry, sorry talking to myself there and no, no, no um kneel the deal with Colleen, [ Laughter.
] says someone gave him a quarter to put in the pay phone – oh God yay all right, uh! So um! That’S that’s what the English you’re looking at tomorrow night! So uh! Are we North Americans looking at anything tomorrow, night yeah? We have.
We have other ones here, I’m gon na talk about them, keep going.
I don’t know, there’s there’s three.
There’S three fights this weekend: three fights to watch out for just reaching back to grab it uh yeah.
Here we go Smith Maxwell this one July, 1st 2 p.
m.
Dalton Smith, Sam Maxwell will Clash for the British and Commonwealth super lightweight titles uh at the utilita arena in Sheffield on Saturday.
Um Sheffield Smith is 14-0.
I would love this kid Man, 10 Knockouts uh, who will be head uh.
You know headlining his second fight night.
In his home City and is aiming to win the prestigious uh, Lord Lonsdale challenge belt outright after claiming the vacant Title by stopping local rival, uh Samuel, Manson uh that was last August and then making successful defense against uh Casey Benjamin in November and uh Billy Ellington.
In February, one of the hottest uh properties in the world of boxing Thunder will be aiming to add Maxwell’s Commonwealth title to his growing collection.
That boasts the WBA Intercontinental title, WBC InterContinental silver title and the British title as he continues to towards a dream world title shot at Hillsboro, uh home to the Beloved Sheffield uh to beloved Sheffield Wednesday.
So this one’s gon na be good um Liverpool’s, Maxwell 17-1, with 11 Kos, former WBO European and British champion at 140.
, we’ll be looking to reclaim the British title after outpointing uh Ennis Brown to win the famous old belt, along with the Commonwealth Crown in Birmingham back In August of 2021, the former team GB standout bounced back from his stoppage loss to Alejandro uh minisa, with a comfortable decision over Sean Cooper in February.
So yeah, here’s another one for you guys to check out.
This is going to be great uh.
You know it is a fight night, it’s not going to be as popular as uh.
You know the double header with the women there and uh all the great stuff on that car, but it is one for you guys to watch.
Definitely some great fights uh undercard action um we got you know to be honest, this one this one’s, looking pretty good, there’s some good lightweight.
You know: Corey o Reagan, uh versus Jordan, Nelson.
We got Nico Rivera’s Alberto motos uh.
We got Beatrice Ferreira taking on Carla Ramos Zamora uh, there’s gon na be a nice little fight there uh then starting live on the Zone uh.
This is when we get into the uh, the actual main cart we got Louis Sylvester, taking on Adam cope uh.
We got junette Boston, which I’ve talked about many times before uh taking on Ryan Amos, and then that was followed by Hopi price taking on Beach uh James Beach, Jr.
I’M looking forward to that fight uh on this card.
That’S probably the only reason why I’m going to be watching and tuning into this one.
I do like Opie price.
I do like what he’s about man, the kid he’s uh you know, but nothing but Stellar in his uh in his in his Pro.
You know, since his Pro debut uh, you know sporting, those wonderful wins so definitely gon na be looking forward to that, and then we got Pat McCormick of you know the McCormick guys taking out Tony Dixon.
So definitely some big fights on this card.
It is a fight night, so it’s gon na be trumped.
Definitely by you know the uh, the women there.
So it’s good.
It’S good fighting! It’S good! Fighting Neil welcome nice haircut, brother um, welcome back we’re just in the fight guys sorry hold on.
Let’S just adjust this a little bit for all the fans out here at tacofite.
com.
Sorry guys, uh.
I was getting a haircut.
This guy’s priorities, all right.
No! No! No! I wasn’t getting a haircut Graham we’ve talked, we’ve talked about uh, the British fights yeah yeah.
We have and we’re moving on to the next, so it’s a big uh, some some honestly, some some good fights this weekend now, I’m gon na bring it up if it uh.
If it I hate, when I’m not working with the same things that I’m used to it just drives me nuts and the noise of living crap out of me, we got Anderson Martin.
This is the one.
This is the one.
I know you’ve been waiting to talk about Graham this is this is a good one, yeah highly anticipated homecoming fight for heavyweight Prodigy Jared, the real big baby Anderson guys is proceeding as planned, although with a last minute change in rival Corner The Undefeated Contender from Kazakhstan Had to bow out due to Visa acquisition delays, which is unfortunate, Paving the way for ex-world Champion, Prince Charles Martin yeah yeah uh, to set up to the channel to step up the challenge.
The Clash with Anderson is set to take place at the Huntington Center in Toledo, Ohio, so yeah homecoming for the real big baby Anderson man yeah the heavyweight encounter between Anderson and Martin, accompanied by another 10 round heavyweight Duo between undefeated pugilist Arsen back Mega Madoff right.
We’Ll talk about this guy all the time and Nigeria’s Raphael acupuntiero.
I think that was right.
Uh Mr mouthful Mikey I did I did I did.
I got one for sure um.
This will be telecast live on ESPN uh, ESPN Deport, uh and ESPN, Plus at 10 pm Eastern Standard Time, guys, um Anderson, 14-0, 14 Kos has only been pushed Beyond three rounds twice in his career, guys only twice uh, which commenced, with a first round stoppage in October of 2019, from April 2021 to December 2022, he chalked up five consecutive second round Knockouts, including one against the um resilient Jerry forest in April of 2023, arsenaline or sorry, Anderson kicked uh kick-started his campaign with a third round stoppage against uh, undefeated George Eris, and Then we got Martin 29, 3 and 1 with 26 Kos a 37 year old heavyweight hailing from St Louis Quincy ibf Heavyweight World title huh hold on.
We lost the host well, well, he’s uh, not talking I’ll, just say, uh.
A lot of the uh boxing writers were saying.
The interesting problem for Anderson now is that he’s only got 12 days notice, uh with respect to his new opponent Martin and he’s not really that familiar with how Charles Martin uh can fight.
So I mean a lot of people were initially saying: oh poor, Charles Martin he’s only got 12 days notice.
Charles Martin didn’t care, and there we go back all right, I’m back so, as I was saying before, you couldn’t see me and that sucks, because I know I got to see myself when I talk, so you guys definitely have to see oh you’re looking good.
Now I know right right, I’m looking good.
We got Neil and Neil with the new fresh haircut in the middle.
Looking great honestly, yeah Martin relinquished his title to uh Anthony Joshua in less than three months, but has remained a formidable contender in the heavyweight category.
Uh posted Joshua defeat, Martin, both the six and two record, including a memorable stoppage against Gerald Washington in 2020.
His most recent victory was a fourth round uh knockout of Devin Vargas in Los Angeles last September, um, also on this one, where uh fifteen four and two nine Kos returns to the ring against um Carlo Perez who’s 1981 with six Kos and a six round super Middleweight title uh, while McCurry uh takes on veteran Divi Julio who’s, 26 and 13 with 16 Kos in a six round Junior lightweight battle, uh junior welterweight Stand Out tiger.
Johnson, bang love this kid uh.
Definitely, eight! No five chaos will face Jonathan uh, Jonathan Montreal uh and this one’s he’s 15-1 with 10 Kos uh this one’s in an eight round boat uh at the light heavyweight Prospect, Dante Benjamin Jr also another kid that I’ve been following and telling you guys to watch 6-04 Kos will meet Loretta Zola, who’s.
Four and two is one KO in a six round Clash.
Then we get the junior middleweight Prospect to Sam ali mashita, uh 6-0 with 5 Kos, the fighting pride of deborn Heights, Michigan fights the durable rants Ward, who is seven five and one with two Kos and a six rounder uh.
This is a huge card.
This is a big one for us uh.
Definitely, some great great action this weekend, happy candidate for everybody all Canadians out there.
They get to watch all these Wicked events, uh that are going to be taking place.
What are your thoughts on this Kirk? Graham big baby? Um yeah, I do I’m just surprised, you didn’t mention the high Tucker, I mean you profiled him haven’t you? Yes, yes, I have.
Yes, I have right.
I’M sorry is he on this card? I I can’t.
I don’t have it in front of me.
I just going by the certain notes that I have written down at the moment.
I don’t have it exactly in front of me, but if he was mentioned to be on this card, there’s no way that he’s backing out and he will be on the card uh.
I can give it a sec.
Let me check it he’s going eight rounds with Nicholas Faust or Nicholas and I’ve I’ve talked about both these guys yeah, honestly jahi Tucker, this kid he’s the real deal he’s what you call a blue chip Prospect.
He is one of these kids.
That’S been just from the beginning, uh getting better and better every time he gets in the ring.
He’S just got that Relentless pressure he’s got.
You know great speed, great defense, great strength, we’re gon na see lots of this kid in the future.
Man mark my words.
He will be wearing a belt one day, uh one of them big ones, and I’ve been saying this from day, one I’m seeing it from day one, but yes, guy Tucker, look out for this kid too.
So I think I think this brings into Focus.
Quite frankly, uh the formidable stack of talent that the Americans are now presenting to the English in the heavyweight Division.
I mean the the English and the media over.
There can only ignore this for so long, but sooner or later these heavyweights are going to start crossing.
The ocean and fighting on British Turf and winning uh the uh, the uh, the guys I said uh this morning.
The guys in the papers have been pretty quick to point out that most of the fighters in the top five over in the UK are passive.
Prime they’re 35 36.
That’S the age out they’re all about in the top ten there’s one guy, that’s in his 20s.
I believe right so so it’d be interesting to see if, if Tyson Fury ends up uh fighting uh that MMA guy uh, that means he might get his belt taken away by the WBA.
I can’t remember uh, but anyway it means that Deontay Wilder if he goes up against Andy Ruiz Jr they’ll, be fighting for his belt if Tyson Fury goes up against.
What’S his name right, so hey Tim, how you doing hey Tim, okay, the glasses look great brother! Oh no, I was trying to get on for the last 10 minutes.
They look good.
You don’t see us no, but you didn’t hear us, but you can hear us yeah.
I can hear you, it says, join well.
You joined all right.
Okay, I’m connecting again.
I think okay, here we go just just tilt your camera down a little bit.
There you go yeah, I only.
I only need these to read.
I hear Echo the champ the champ, so we we’ve been talking about that.
We’Ve been talking.
We just started talking about the heavyweights and the heavyweight Division.
I was going from 15 watching you, oh wow, our producer might have been having a nap in the back.
I think is what happened? Did you? Did you wake him up with a phone call yeah for like 10 minutes? That’S Neil’s exercise for the week, so I’m I’m certainly looking forward to Jared Anderson up there all right, Neil I’m looking forward to Jared Anderson’s uh fight, but it will be a good fight because Charles Martin’s he’s not going to get rolled over um.
No.
No.
This could give me a nice little test for him yeah yeah.
Definitely you know Charles Martin is not going to roll over.
We know that right.
You know.
He’S uh he’s he’s a big guy who’s um, you know done some damage in the past.
Definitely so uh yeah a bit of a test.
I think for uh Jared big baby Anderson um.
If it’s gon na go past three rounds, this would be the guy to do it.
I think, as as I was telling Neil uh, while you went off the air for a little bit there, some of the interesting comments that have been made by the media are that uh they’ve only both had 12 days notice.
It’S not just simply.
Charles Martin has got 12 days notice to go in the ring.
Uh he’s got nothing to lose, but uh big, baby, uh Anderson or the real big baby Anderson, as he called nowadays he’s also got 12 days to get familiar with Charles Martin uh.
So, like I said it’s it’s going to be a great little fight and it’s not the only heavyweight battle on that particular night of fighting down in Toledo, so they’ve been active right he’s been active Anderson right.
I’Ve seen him look pretty good he’s.
Always he’s he’s one of those gym rat guys too man he’s always ready yeah, you might see a little something awful.
You might can see there.
You know well.
That would make my day.
Okay.
That would make my day if, if Anderson knocks out, Martin that’d be great uh for me, uh be great for North American boxing fans, because it really does put him into that position of strength.
Uh that I’ve been saying for a long time.
Everyone on this panel agrees with uh.
The American scene is building its heavy weights uh from the bottom up, uh, they’re, grooming them they’re, well managed they’re, well, promoted uh, I’m I’m a little bit unsure as to the mixed messages.
I’M getting out of Jared Anderson, though, in that uh he wants to retire one day, but the next day he’s looking for these titles, so I’m getting a little bit more uh.
Today he was today he was out at the the Toledo schools, though visiting schools.
Imagine that you know what it’s just uh, that’s life of a life of a pugilist.
I guess somebody gave him a lot of money, maybe maybe maybe you know that sounds like a little mental uh strength, yeah yeah.
I think I think after this fight, though, coming back to Hometown Toledo, Ohio and uh, you know get in the ring and putting on this performance.
I don’t think you’ll be talking about retirement after that, okay yeah, you know he’s coming back to the hometown.
He’S gon na whoop some ass.
We all know that you know he’s he’s looking really good.
Okay, yeah, he shaves.
You look good! No, no! Keep thinking! Look at my face.
Oh you got a big mustache, no, no five more seconds! You went to the dentist.
Where did that mustache come from you’re a gem? Aren’T you I’m underneath 240.
wow, I had some conversations yeah.
I had some conversations this week around the world with a couple of people and uh no names to be said, but we are so looking forward to what you’re thinking about with uh your training, how you’ve been taking care of yourself, how beautiful you’re looking everybody’s all Excited and I’m really excited personally.
Personally, I am look.
I even cut my hair for you.
I tell you the truth.
It’S boring here, I’m just training, I’m gon na get something to do.
I’M not we’re not talking about the place if something happens, but really to live Champions.
So you know if, if the, if the door knocks you’re ready to open it, so yeah understand in shape for health reasons, but since that event, that thing was right there.
If they say something, I’m ready, I’m gon na try to use my head and if I got ta, make a little bit of uh right a little bit of hay [ Music ].
So that’s what we’re doing right now.
Something happened! That’S what we’re doing right now! Well, if anybody deserves it, sir, it would be you come Tim, I’m tired of the food.
Don’T call me Saturday, you know so I believe my grandkids um.
They just left yesterday they’re going to come back in a couple days, but they know I can’t.
I can’t really uh I’ll help because that’s where my heart is, but I really got ta concentrate um the same things I would have told you um like this trying hard to make it happen.
So you know that’s a lot of money yep! Oh, we can see Mike what was that a little glass of milk yeah yeah yeah there you go uh, obviously, obviously they’re not paying him to uh, drink camera.
Otherwise, he’d show us hey you, we get it.
We cannot indulge it’s water.
All right.
Are we gon na be talking anymore fight, or are you guys, Mr Tim, can I can I ask you a few questions? Yeah, Mr Tim? No, it’s a heavyweight champion.
I started talking crazy yeah come down.
You were telling me last uh last week on the panel a little bit about your upbringing there and uh right, and I was so intrigued.
I started all week looking into this situation that you were so gracious to Enlighten us with and uh.
I never knew that that actually existed, but I’m sure you have a few more stories in the bag.
What is this Nikki Scarfo the boys in the Jewish neighborhood uh? Okay, how you grew up that that really intriguing I’m interested in talking about that, but I’ll? Let you know that um real quick, that I was just I’m from that neighborhood and from that area, and I hear the name met him before I said the words a lot of all the other guys, but whatever whatever they actually were doing, I don’t know nothing About that, no! No! No! I’M not asking you about that.
Obviously, I’m just saying it’s amazing that you actually were a man that actually was in the middle of that whole life.
Okay, yeah, I was born.
You were like probably not really doing that good.
Like you said your family, I don’t know like okay or whatever, but everybody had to kind of like work together over there yeah.
Well, you know, um, you know, there’s a lot.
There was a lot of pictures down you just have to.
You have to be strong and just move forward.
There’S a lot of things like you know, I’m gon na talk about and all that, but no of course nobody I didn’t go drinking party right.
A friend um, and the only thing you can do is try to help them go in a positive direction.
That’S all and that’s right, everybody didn’t try to stop.
They were a leader.
You were a leader too, but you were a leader of them, real quick.
They know that I’m about that.
You know that and when they approached me and my family most of all my brothers and sisters did Sports and stuff anyway.
So was like there’s a lot of things: the neighborhood you know, and that was beautiful, growing up yeah, but I think the people, the people they didn’t, live in your shoes.
Right, huh, the people didn’t live in your shoes, technically Tim you’re, the only you are, the only heavyweight champ out of Philadelphia, so yeah, so rocky rocky is you to put a Tim Witherspoon statue up on top of those? Yes, no, yes, that’s you up there.
Just like this where’s, the Tim Witherspoon statue, yeah, I love eggnog and we cool and I’m and I’m – and I was sitting in the back of my head.
I’M saying um.
If you just wearing the title one time watch how much we get and I love them.
But in terms of all the other stuff or [ Music ], even you know television help.
You know help um help people you know by.
Oh, he weren’t the title company.
So, with some encounter I wanted to win, but just talking about this talking would you think they would do so? Oh yeah, you understand what I just said that right well, Tim, like I always say man, you were one of my Inspirations.
So I’m really really it’s like it’s like one of the bucket list things.
You know what I’m saying: I’m gon na ride in the car with Sonny with him, and I even got my hair for you today.
You like my hair for the show.
Ah, I do it for you to see if the girl pictures that’s right, that’s right and you’re, bringing all the girls Tim, but don’t tell your wife so on on the on the related uh Rocky statue front.
Did you know that when uh Sylvester Stallone sold his house to Adele, let’s say his Mansion wow, because he had a replica uh Rocky statue in in his in his house? But Adele said: if that statue leaves with you Sylvester it’s a it’s a no deal, so she she loved that statue so much that he had to include it in the sale of the house to her.
They moved to somewhere, I’m sorry, okay, so it did get moved from the stairs.
Definitely somewhere they moved it from there.
Is it hard to run in well? Okay, yeah! I get tired on the first three man, I’m gon na take a nap.
Take a nap run.
Five, take another nap guys check this out, though this is a funny one.
Tim you’ll like this and Graham knows about this.
We used to have a rock and roll Studio here in Toronto – Ontario Canada, oh yeah, and that guy shows up and he’s playing drums for some like no band, no buddy band, and he says, oh to me.
I was married to Bridget Nielsen and I said what and he goes yeah right after Sylvester Stallone divorced her I married Bridget, that’s cool well, just I’m just saying: did we get to see like the the entire downfall of like her and flavor flaves uh little relationship With the big clock on his chest, is that the guy the height man from Public Enemy, sleeve no Flavor Flav – oh Flavor, Flav, okay, that guy yeah they were actually a couple.
Can I can I bring his back around to fighting? Yes, please all right.
Are you done Neil [ Laughter ] be fun anymore, hey we’re talking fight! You want to talk fight, oh man, yeah yeah! I can Bridge it yeah.
You know, you know what I’m I’m surprised, surprised that there’s there’s no candidate fighting going on.
Actually, um yeah what’s happening with that anything locally.
That’S where we do our best fighting uh, that’s weird eh yeah! Well, it is Canada.
Today come on everybody kind of gets a day off national holiday.
I guess right yeah! You know that Tim! No, what happened? Do you like first the birth, the birth of Canada 155? Now it’s like July 4th in the states to talk about it, but really the reality is not my whole day, but I will celebrate it with them for them really.
So what do we got on this? Kid this week fights we already talked about him yeah, and what else do you got? What do you got? Well, I got a lot.
What do you need to know about it? What do you know about this week’s fights? Well, I know that Jerry.
I know that I know that Jared Anderson is going to do some damage against Charles Martin yeah.
No I’m just getting in there.
You know guys.
No, he looks he looks really good.
He looks really good, really good.
He looks prepped again tomorrow tomorrow, I’ll send it to you champ, 17.
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Okay I’ll, send it to you I’ll, send it to you.
You know I got you champ on all those fights, [, Laughter, ], yeah yeah.
Let’S talk a little bit a little futuristic sort of thing, so Virgil, Ortiz Jr is coming up this week.
What’S your uh, what you got, what are you guys thinking about Virgil, sorry who’s? He fighting – I don’t know, Graham who is he fighting foreign, listen to grumpy group, all right? We we talked about him before um, but I really haven’t.
I just want to know what your opinion, sir Tim, Mister, yeah 20-0.
I believe so yeah, 19 Argos.
We talked about, we talked about him several times, but I’ve watched him one time, but I really didn’t follow up.
I’M just trying to get better.
You know coming in the shows and getting better sorry champ I’ll.
Keep you I’ll.
Keep you up today, yeah.
What’S he out of uh he’s out of Texas? Is he not Virgil? You know, Eddie Hearn said something interesting.
This week, um this year’s been kind of a flat year for for big, big fights and uh.
The Saudis have entered the market and they’re looking to put together Mega fight in December, but there’s there was news out of England after uh Canelo left uh the matchroom partnership that he had and therefore uh matchroom being partnered with the Zone.
It left them with a big war.
Chest and Eddie heard made a very interesting comment.
He said uh because all the American, all the American, all the American promoters were kind of bad-mouthing Eddie Hearn saying he didn’t know what he was doing.
Okay, so Eddie hearing came back and said you know one of the things one of the bright sides of uh Canelo, leaving the partnership for the time being for a three-fight deal with PBC uh.
He said one of the bright bright sides of this is.
It leaves us with a massive war chest because we were normally having to pay uh Canelo, like 70 million dollars a fight.
He goes he goes now.
We can put together some really good fights uh in this year because of that war chest opening up for him to spend.
I I I I like reading uh reports uh outside the ring when it deals with what the promoters are saying, because you find a lot of insight uh into what’s going on in the boxing world, with respect to how deals are made and how deals are structured.
I mean I don’t like, what’s going on with respect to Deontay Wilder’s Camp, offering uh Andy Ruiz, Jr 30, things of that nature, uh, It’s upsetting fight fans, It’s upsetting the boxing World in general uh, but we don’t often hear about.
We don’t often talk about it, but there’s an awful lot of traffic.
Well, uh Ruiz is looking for 50, 50.
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Okay and a Deontay Wilder you know, and then the funny thing is is uh the guy’s Mega Rich already man they’re they’re.
Both I mean, that’s, that’s the funny thing I mean if you go down the line, if you go through the various divisions, there’s only several divisions that are truly making money, if you will and the rest have a lot of uh decent uh fighters in those divisions, Uh, but nothing, that’s anyways! That’S what Eddie Hearn said uh this week that he looks to see uh to put some money into some decent fights uh before the end of the year.
Take a take a Hiatus on that big spending for a while there.
At the beginning of the year, didn’t it yeah, absolutely I mean there’s been no love lost between the American promoters and the English promoters.
So it’s good to see a boxer Bo, xxcr bench, Lums company put together that cruise dessern Savannah Marshall fight and then a really good and a really good undercard.
So that’s good for uh the UK scene.
It’S good to see uh! You know Eddie Hearn, saying some positive things in the light of the shellacking he got from the US promoters.
In particular Oscar De La Hoya, uh Ellerbe arum I mean they were.
They were all smashing them over that Canelo deal or losing that Canelo deal and Eddie came back with positive news and said: hey.
You know what I now have a war test to spend on other Fighters.
Yeah, that’s huge! It’S freeing up 70 million dollars a fight.
That’S big money.
You know you can put together a whole card for 70 million dollars, [ Laughter, ], some fun yeah! That’S right! That’S right! What did Mike Tyson say? Yo.
He didn’t even train for his last match.
Man who Mike Tyson you never even stepped foot in the gym.
Oh, I can’t remember whose last fight was again: oh, that was wowing the Earth yeah.
That’S my man, yo that’d, be great love Mike, but you know you know what I’m telling you champ Mike would do that Mike Mike would do an exhibition with you for sure.
I think I think Jared Anderson is the next Mike Tyson, not in the way that he boxes not in the way that he destroys people but right in the way that he’s going to sweep through the heavyweight there.
We go.
That’S how they say that he’s like the next Mike Tyson, but you could also say that from somebody like Richard Torres right he’s another guy who’s smashing through the division.
You put him in front of him when I was talking about the heavyweights on the news.
Show the other day um, you guys know.
What’S going on champ huh hang on Neil, I got you know, don’t interrupt, please yeah! We we had a.
We had a a friend come in from Australia and tell us about a couple of heavyweights out of Australia that we hadn’t even heard of yet have I have unbeaten records and he was surprised that uh, you know the Australian scene is being ignored by both the British and the American promoters and, as we’ve said, watch it I watch it and I’ll tell you it’s it’s huge, the heavy, the heavyweights that are coming up from other parts of the world.
We’Ve mentioned it before and uh, and I anyway I just just the fire in Jared Anderson’s eyes.
I mean he he is he’s ready to take on Charles Martin beat Charles Martin honestly, I would like to see the uh, the guy at a Kazakhstan.
That’S who I would have liked to see in there was originally originally slated to take it on oh um yeah.
Well, when what’s his name again or something yeah, something like that, yeah yeah, you would have been nice, maybe Tim can pronounce it for us.
Let me get Robbie good, that’s easy! Remember! When heavyweight Fighters had easy names, uh yeah, Witherspoon Ali Holmes, Tyson Frazier, Holyfield, Frasier Holyfield – that one was a little hard, though holy cheers and um.
Like you know, you know, was there any guys Tim that you wanted to fight over your career, that you didn’t fight because of circumstances, but you really thought you were probably prepared for them or you know that external circumstances didn’t let you fight them.
You know what I mean, but you felt that you were uh.
You know in the mix I just whoever they put in front of me.
Then when we got older and the money started, uh then started developing and the business got a little bit.
You know we had to make plans on who reported and all that type of thing.
So, but in the beginning, um um you get State fights where, where you know person might not will be not will not be hard the next day to keep building that you get more Labs or types um, Michael dose or you know, get up there.
So you build them up and then you do challenge.
Then you get them a challenge and if you become champion you know it’s hard work, it’s hard work and everything so um.
I have um fighting and I think um yeah when I put Larry Holmes on me that we were both undefeated that wasn’t me yeah, so yeah with a challenge production assistant, huh my production assistant.
Can I ask you a question? Can I ask you another question? [ Applause ], I was, I was watching the fight the other night.
I’Ve got him real Diggs versus Lennox Lewis.
I believe Tyrrell Biggs Tyrell Biggs, oh yeah man.
They were going at it.
Wait, wait, wait so so Terrell digs and running shoes in the 12th round.
Lennis crooked him down, but they were going head to head like big time.
They were doing pretty good.
That was a really that’s so Shannon about a month ago in in an event how’s, he looking is he still looking jacked huh? Is he still looking jacked? Like always, oh he’s saying wait, he gained weight, he looked real heavy and he said he had.
He been trained and he’d been losing weight.
We we were trying.
I was trying to really get to do an exhibition with him yeah, because a couple years ago, a couple years back, he looked real trim man.
He was like 65, but he was coming down, though so then I seen him in the video and he looked like he lost weight since I’ve seen him, then so yeah we was at anything he looked down.
There he’s taller than me.
He was a big guy.
Tim, he was big eh, yeah yeah.
I was telling you Tim.
I think I was big, I’m 6’3 yeah.
I think they have him listed as like six five and a half or something you serious, yeah yeah, because he I think he was like my height.
But then, when I met him, I was like whoa, you talk, oh yeah, he’s got he’s got a few inches.
He’S real white he’s got real, broad shoulders too yeah six pack.
I said that boy is Big.
It’S like it’s like it’s like.
He never left the gym.
You know no, no, but he looked like he yeah.
He, Oh you mean in terms of weight, lifting yeah, muscles, yeah, muscles and stuff.
I seen a little bit of stuff on his stomach, but it wouldn’t take that much to get it off.
No, no.
He gave him I’m thinking about 20 pounds heavier than what he usually was, maybe 25 and stuff grumpy.
Are you uh? Are you reading any? Are you reading any of those headlines about the Charlo brothers that uh that they’re making? Well? I know I noticed that uh.
It was originally going to be your Maul Charlo, but now it’s going to be Jermel yeah, so that was that was a bit of a surprise: hey man, those those twins.
You know they’re gon na go down right yeah, but I think one of them’s in jail, though right now what no get the heck out of here seriously.
Well, I I okay, I can Google it, but I’m either one of them in jail or just got out.
Okay, hang on now I’m gon na have to Google it.
No! No we need now we need the headlines.
Let’S do this hang on.
What I thought we might be talking about is uh the Spence Crawford uh press conference.
They just had yeah yeah wow.
We was doing a podcast, real, quick, and I told him this is because both of them dudes are good on defense, neither one of them defense, hey, I’m just telling you and that’s what’s wrong.
I did some clothes and I’ve been looking at these videos.
These young guys, these days I’ll, tell you Crawford.
Yeah Crawford’s got Crawford’s Crawford’s defense is his offense.
I believe, eventually you catch that guy.
That will catch you.
That’S the thing right.
Is it going to be Spence? Maybe not? Maybe so we all have to see.
We’Ve all been waiting for this fight.
Honestly, I don’t want to jinx it.
I don’t want to talk about it.
I just want it to happen and that’s why, like I’ve, had lots of people, ask me what my thoughts are in the fight? I’M not going to give my thoughts until the week of the weigh-in.
That’S what I’ll get my thoughts on that fight, because you know what at any moment in time, one of these guys can get a little hussy fit and the next thing you know this fight’s over and it’s not gon na happen.
You know, and it’s happened.
We’Ve come right down to the deadline before and bang it’s pulled out, but we’ve been we’ve been dead.
Will you get uh, look and feel for you go to the gym when they’re trying to say your best defense is offense.
That means you don’t know that much.
They say that to a boxer so because they don’t do defense, so they try to make them do all on everything.
So um.
When the planner like that, like this, he don’t know that much.
He don’t have a teacher defense.
That doesn’t mean there is boxers, but they pay the price, some of them brain damage and stuff um.
But but there’s a couple of them and you know what Mel did killer um.
We can talk about him that dude was all offense, but he got hit like you guys, like a couple of guys who can’t really communicate now and and if they’re communicating the kids, they can’t hold things they can’t put.
You know you can’t yeah there’s a lot of things.
They can’t do that, keep it tight, keep it this way.
You know, don’t don’t keep that shell tight and then you would then you relax but keep your hand up here in front of your face where, like it was just like this, I read an article once that said, going 12 rounds is a heavyweight as a professional.
Can be the equivalent of being struck in the head 180 Times by a 2×4? What that? What that mean? Honestly? That means that means going 12 rounds with a heavyweight professional boxer is like somebody taking a 2×4 and smashing you in the head.
12.
You know eating time and I was reading on those heavy weights, and it said the equivalent of going 12 rounds with a heavyweight boxer is being like struck 180 Times by a two by four in the head.
Yeah, if you, if you, if you got me yeah, I had fun, I had fun, you know and because you got defects and now you can speak again.
Okay do enjoy the update on the Jamal Charles yeah.
Let’S hear it, let’s hear it: okay, so last year he was arrested uh for assaulting some people in a household.
This was uh, bundled with with some robbery charges he was facing.
He got off the robbery charges and I don’t know the outcome of the assault charges.
Okay but Mauricio Suleiman the WBC president, or he came out just very very recently and said due to uh the mental health issues that Jamal is now facing it would be.
It would be better to put Jamel into that fight against Canelo, oh wow, so there there is a bit of a backstory.
If you ask me with it sure told me what titles, who just for example Jamal is, I think, 31-0 okay, but he’s obviously fighting some demons right now.
Yeah, oh, is that the one that you want to put in that’s the one that they’ve pushed their side right to bring out.
He got pushed aside for his brother uh right, the one who’s, the one who’s, the one who’s not stressed, is gon na fight Canelo.
Okay yep, he should be with his brother than training camp and all that I just I just actually watched.
I just actually watched they.
Don’T they don’t train together at all um.
I watched this thing called fight towns.
I saw it on YouTube.
Um, it’s uh.
Stefan, oh, what’s wrong with the foundation, I’m telling you uh, it’s it’s the one! It’S it’s hosted by this ex-nba player.
I want to say Stefan Johnson.
I think it is and uh he goes around to Houston.
Uh to you know, to show that Houston’s got a thick deep Heritage in boxing which they do uh.
He visited the turn.
You know uh the turtle brothers, and you know they both they both train opposite no way.
Two twins should be training together and stuff like no.
No, no, they they don’t.
They don’t train.
Together from what I saw in this thing, they don’t train together.
They got different training regimens.
You know they kind of just keep their distance.
It’S kind of weird but they’re in the same weight class.
Eventually, you know what I mean eventually, one of these guys they’re gon na have to they’re gon na first come in history exactly exactly first time in history, record is 35 one, and one with 19 Knockouts yeah he’s only 33, but and he’s Undisputed at 154.
yeah Um he wanted, he actually won the fight.
Uh Tim said you really saved whoa.
That is sharing.
I thought them guys was cool, all twins Foundation, I mean when they were little knowing that possessions.
I heard the twins being like like like a distance, but you know with that.
That is something right there yeah.
No, I I thought he was taking a workout.
I thought it was crazy too.
In the same, in the same episode that I watched, you could also see uh Regis progress.
He was in there um, oh Sheikh Johnson, that kid was in there too yeah um.
You know, Houston’s got a nice nice rich, rich boxing history.
Right now they got some great great guys coming up in the you know, up in the up in the ranks, man so don’t be sleeping on Houston, apparently exactly don’t be sleeping on Houston man.
They got uh, they got some.
They got some guys, man and and honestly uh.
If you go and watch this uh, this YouTube documentary uh.
Honestly, I was pretty impressed with it.
It’S it shows that Houston has a lot of up-and-comers man that are going to be uh.
You know gon na be household names eventually, yes, absolutely, and we will be handling them here at talkingfight.
com with all our fans, you damn right.
We will that’s why I watch something man, so we know what to talk about the other.
Just so you know the other.
The other heavyweights that I mentioned uh earlier with respect to, if, if Jared Anderson is going to move forward and become the force in the heavyweight division, as I suspect he will the other heavyweights that often don’t get the credit uh they deserve, Philip pergovic would be One he’s 15.
, honestly, honestly, I wasn’t I’m I’m kind of I’m kind of uh.
Let me stop Greg Sanchez 22-0 yeah, Martin, Martin bacoli, 19-1 yeah.
Additionally, getting a negative in in uh in his defense, um um, oh hergovic, no, which one um he could tighten it up and listen to him he’s never been brought past the third round.
So that’s important.
It’S very important! All last year, his last five fights last year never went past number two.
They all finished in the second round.
Okay, so you know he might panic when they get to seven or six.
That’S what I’m saying like we’ve yet to see it and hey.
Martin Martin is one of those guys that can bring you to those late rounds.
Okay, so this is a I’m I’m thinking, maybe if you take it to the end right, yeah, yeah, then and honestly, you know, Martin is one of those guys that can definitely push the pace.
Uh, you know slow it down.
Martin can punch yes, okay, Martin can punch, you know, he’s a veteran in the game.
He’S been around a long time.
He knows all the tricks, man, you know he’s 37 years old uh, you know he’s he’s he’s hell he’s been in that world class.
Before he’s been on those stages he’s been under the Limelight like that, and you know he’s one of those guys that can really big baby can really learn a lot from this match that he’s going to have with him.
Okay, uh, you know if he gets brought back into if he gets brought past.
You know the third round and into territory that he’s unfamiliar with it’s going to be a lesson for him um.
It’S a lesson that I think that he’s going to capitalize on, but you know, he’s never been past the third round.
So it’s uh.
It’S definitely a test.
It’S a test to his ability and uh you know and to test his skills, because you know you don’t get to use your entire skill set when you’re only going three rounds.
Okay, right, you don’t see everything and you don’t use everything exactly exactly and when you don’t use it, you lose it.
So you know it’s it’s good to get into those fights that take you into those deeper rounds, because you know you got to know yourself that you can handle it and the only way to do that is do it.
You know you really haven’t seen him um at his test, exactly exactly right.
Okay, let’s go! That’S that’s! What’S making the heart pump, yeah man, it’s a big fight! Tomorrow, big fight tomorrow, Dory Tim.
When we got a drink, we’ll uh we’ll definitely get you hooked up to that fight, yeah, okay, yeah I’ll, say I’ll.
Send you the links and everything yeah the phone calls, so we can um next week.
Okay, yes, for sure Tim just hit me up.
If I’m ready, bro I’m saying before that, like tomorrow or Sunday, if you can’t, I don’t know, I’m probably going to get the grandkids again.
Thank you.
I’Ll drop you all this stuff tomorrow.
This is your former team terrible.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you for all your time.
My friend, God bless you very much yeah man.
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