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Transcribed
Oh yeah, hello, boxing fans around the world time to join me and Mike tonight for another episode of the Friday night panel and boy.
Do we have a barn burner to uh to all you fans out there around the world joining in uh? To hear us tell you who’s gon na win tonight and tomorrow night yeah, yes, definitely card.
We we are.
We are guys we are Ottawa in hellermann, Oldman January 27th, guys Windham New Hampshire, the Castleton Friday Night Fights Back In Action; yeah, that’s just one unboxingnh.
com.
This is uh.
This is a new one.
I haven’t heard of these guys before so um there’s a bunch of new promoters.
I guess that are in town in the uh yeah.
I was saying that last week, uh as a matter of fact uh.
I said in one of my other shows who the heck is this guy olgin? So, okay, let’s uh, let’s talk about this for a minute: okay, so top heavyweight Contender Ottawa will return to action for his first fight in 2023, as he takes on Mexico’s Holloman Olguin.
In an eight round uh fight tonight uh, this one is getting underway: uh Wallen, who is promoted by Selena promotions and who owns the WBO number three and WBC number nine rankings will look to stay sharp as he seeks a marquee matchup this year, um, while in He’S 24 in one one, you know one loss 14 Kos out of two wins to his Ledger in 2022, following up a unanimous decision in February over uh Camille, I think it was cool cool ski uh, with a Don with a dominant decision over the uh.
Always tough right now, Booker in May, since Ed Wallin has stayed ready in the gym and after moving on from negotiations to Facebook, former two-time heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua uh, we’ll step back into the ring.
Looking to show again, why he’s the top 10 heavyweight in the world um Wallen is one of the most avoided and feared fighters in the heavyweight division said Dimitri Salida, you know, he’s always staying active, sharp and improving with every fight.
Uh fights like this show how much of a committed fighter Auto really is.
Instead of waiting around for a big fight, he is owning his craft and they’re, looking forward to an impressive performance and a big 2023 for Auto uh in this one now uh this guy, who is going to be fighting Ottawa and Olguin, is only ranked 224th or Sorry, 244th: in the heavyweight division out of 1338, he is 39.
He is a southpaw standing, six three with a 77 76 and a half inch reach, and he is out of South Jordan Utah by way of Mexico um.
His last fight was against Rory Hines majority decision draw um before that he fought uh, Terrell Jamal Woods and he lost by KO.
That was back in uh August of 2021.
So you only fought once last year against Ronnie Hines uh and that one was at uh Maya, indoor complex in Houston and uh.
You know that went to full distance, but this guy he has been fighting some uh.
You know some of these smaller venues uh.
He you know, didn’t work in his way up through that heavyweight division, but his resume is not up to that of Ottawa.
So definitely this is going to be uh.
You know just a warm-up.
I guess you know this is going to be a warm-up, definitely uh.
It looks like it’s going to be an easy fight for him uh when that one gets underway, but the best part about it is is uh, there’s some other fighters on this card that you know, um Cheyenne, fopino, definitely watch out for this girl, uh Sarah she’s.
Taking on Sarah click, um James Perkins, he’s 901 in the 168 division, he’ll be taking on Pablo olvieto and uh.
Alexis Flores 1-0 talked about this kid before taking on Javier Torres um, so Flores is taking on Torres [, Laughter, ], but yeah this card.
It’S on tonight at least we have some uh some some boxing to watch tonight and then we all get ready for tomorrow.
Uh, you know it’s not the hugest card in the world, Otto Wallen, you know what it is.
At least we get to see some heavyweight action tonight really can’t complain, you know, are you? Are you interested in any of the guys on that card? Well, the next one.
Let’S talk about it, better, better, be of versus yard.
This one I’m looking forward to.
Graham, I know you’re looking forward to this card as well.
I can’t hear you sorry about that.
Mike was off dog was barking.
No worries no worries.
I I was I before okay, so you missed my comment then about Otto Wallen.
I think realistically knock out.
First round yeah anyway anyway, so, yes, I we’re going to speak about tomorrow, night’s fights I don’t know which one you want to begin with, whether we’ll start with the one that starts earlier.
You know we’ll we’ll take a Time basis.
Yeah, let’s just logic, love you Spock right, better, be a yard.
Espn BT Sports January 28th, guys 2 p.
m.
Eastern Standard Time, um can’t wait for this one man, London, calls for the light heavyweight.
King WBC, WBO and ibf World Champion Arthur Vector bieve, will defend his belts against big punching British allergy, Anthony yard at the OVO Arena Wembley on Saturday January 28th, guys uh, the WBO number one Contender gets his shot at the Montreal base better via who is 18-0 With 18 Knockouts boxing’s only world champion was 100 knockout ratio.
He will be fighting professionally in the United Kingdom for the first time uh with the highly decorated former amateur having fought in London at the 2012 Olympic Games, promoted by Frank Warren and Queensbury in association with top rank, the huge 175 pound Showdown will be shown exclusively On BT Sports in the UK and streaming live and exclusively on ESPN Plus in the United States, uh yeah.
I can’t wait for this one to get underway.
You know better be of one’s first world title in November of 2017, with a 12 round stoppage over Enrique Cooling and defended his ibf belt on two further occasions, including against Britain’s Calum Johnson before entering into a unification match against WBC champion uh Alexander gross dovik.
In October of 2019, the Ukraine puncher christovic was uh unbeaten at the time was stopped in the 10th round.
Better be have defended.
His titles against Adam denies Marcus Brown ahead of a three-built unification against WBO Champion Joe Smith Jr in June uh at Madison Square Garden.
Where the American was stopped in two rounds, uh in the amateur range better.
We have won silver at the 2007 World Championships before striking gold at the 2009 event.
He also won gold medals at the 2006 and 2010 European championships, and this one Wembley event represents the second world title attempt for yard 23 and 2 with 22 Knockouts who previously traveled to Russia to take on the long-standing champion, Sergey kovalev ultimately being stopped in the 11Th round after coming close to forcing a finish himself in the eighth round Yards First Title came in fight number 11, when he knocked out Chris Hobbs in four rounds for the southern area.
Belt yard then fought seven consecutive fights with either the WBO European or InterContinental belts at stake, or both as yard knocked out each of those foes in seven rounds or less uh post kovalev yard continued with fights during the pandemic against uh, Dex Spelman and a domestic Dust up against Lyndon, Arthur yard dropped a split decision against his Manchester arrival and after a swift comeback.
Um fight in Birmingham yard sought Redemption against Arthur uh, the Vintage yard returned and he knocked out Arthur in four rounds to once again earn the WBO number one spot so guys this is going to be a big one.
Big big event here can’t wait to see this.
We also have on this card.
I want to touch on it.
Carol.
Ituma is going to be on here, along with Masood, Abdullah and uh.
You know this card’s got a bunch of kids on it that um that I’ve been watching, and definitely this is gon na, be a a good card.
Man.
Definitely the UK doing it big again.
What can I say putting together really good cards here? I can’t uh, you know we got a couple of titles up for grabs.
Besides the main event, we also have the WBA World fly title up for grabs against delican versus uh Jimenez um, this one’s gon na be great, and then Carla Tuma, who is 9-0, is taking on Ezekiel ozilato moderna for the WBC International light heavy, which is vacant Right now, so we’re gon na get a bunch of great undercard action on this card, and then uh, oh Moses, saituma, uh brother of Carl, is is in action.
Can’T wait to see this one so who do you think who do you think, Graham who’s taking it? Uh well, I’ve been I’ve been uh all week, long plug-in uh, better BF uh, as Carl might know.
Um.
I’M really looking forward, though, to the uh automobile uh.
Is that how you pronounce it and Carl’s the heavyweight – and I think, he’s – got a good shot of rising through the rankings pretty quickly? I really like his uh Styles performance today.
It’S looking good so yeah.
I agree with you good under card but uh, but I’m looking forward looking forward to seeing how long uh yard lasts she’s the underdog – I don’t know, I’m not saying anything.
New or controversial, I mean better.
Bf is definitely uh the odds on favorite yeah yeah, we’ll uh we’ll definitely get to see uh.
Some great action, though this one takes place, it’ll, be interesting to see if he does knock out yard that’ll be interesting.
That yay, you know he is the only.
He is the only Champion that has 100 knockout rate, so you know it’ll be nice to see if he can keep that streak alive.
I don’t know if it’ll happen, it might go the distance, but both these men are hard-hitting.
It’S definitely gon na make for some great action.
Oh we got Carl stepping in here to come.
Join us an interesting thing about butter, be up.
Holly, hey Carl um Holly Holly Donovan this morning was commenting that uh, better BF actually holds a Canadian passport.
So he’s uh, he very much fits into that Lennox Lewis kind of category.
Definitely boy hey.
We borrow them because we don’t have our own right, we’ll take what we can get, but in this case better be as a champ.
Exactly I’m uh.
I I mean I’m, I’m excited to see uh, Moses saituma and his uh and his debut uh.
Definitely how do you rate this kid? Well, the noise coming out from front Warren suggests it.
It’S gon na be a world champion very quickly talking about possibly trying to beat Mike Tyson’s record right.
So um they’ve got very big Ambitions for him.
Um they don’t burn the kid out.
That’S all I’d say because they talk about him fighting many times during this.
This year, oh it’s true! If I don’t know how good he is, and none of us do do well until he lays his own gloves up and jumps him.
You know we don’t know um quite as interested to listen to you analysis of Anthony yard versus metabear, because I’ve been changing my mind on this one.
A lot.
Oh yeah, I’m very I’m very on the fence.
Here I don’t.
I don’t know how to go with it.
Man, like there’s, you know that’s true one day, I’m thinking better beer, then I’m also thinking yard, and then you know, I’m also thinking that this could go to the this could go the distance man and – and you know we don’t know what the outcome could be.
It’S it’s definitely it’s definitely a hard choice.
This one I mean what I would say.
People tend to bring up Linden office performance when he got beat, but what I would say yeah.
I live a lot going off outside doing at that time.
Yeah we’ve covered, and you know he did lose a few family members due to covet as well.
So you know it’s entitled to have an off night, but he did come back and rectify that and in some style he absolutely blew Lyndon Arthur away in that room.
Yeah yeah, we all know better, be as a you know, he’s a Monster yeah and I believe he needs to get on his toes.
He needs to get around that ring in the first five rounds.
For me, I think he needs to keep out the way.
A little bit um because that we have is getting on a little bit of age now so surely you know, as the fight goes, you know you’re done more stamina.
Is it good enough? Is my question and we’re going to find out so um? Let’S say: there’s another few belts coming to the UK, Graham’s birthplace, I’m sorry, you know we’re going to pick some more wheel, titles up um, but you know what a great fight it is a great fight, no matter, no matter what the outcome is gon na be I know these guys are really gon na smash it out man.
This is this is going to be a war.
Both these guys are coming.
You know both these guys are Heavy Hitters.
Both these guys got big KO rates.
You know they’re they’re, not they’re, not looking to go the distance.
Both these guys are going to try and take each other’s heads off.
I think if we see vintage yard, that could be a problem for for better Bev and he will definitely have to be on his toes and he will definitely have to be moving.
It’S just never been indeed water.
A lot that you all does that he’s never been in the wall to need, so we don’t know.
I was gon na cope with a press.
You can expect to be absolutely looking for everything yeah absolutely take his head off.
Yeah.
Definitely he’s gon na die.
He’S gon na be looking to kick his head off right from the beginning, and I was up there weigh-in.
I was at the press conference yesterday.
I believe it was.
I was at the weigh-in today won’t be, I would say, I quite enjoyed that there’s no pantomime in that in the build up yeah, it’s too very respectful fighters who basically just just shook guns and said, let’s meet in the middle of the Ring yeah.
No! No history on eggs: no, unlike the Smith you about one with some, some terrible comments were made and he just didn’t need to go there.
No was there any? Was there any Fallout from all those comments? Last week, so Liam Smith’s apologized post by another British boxing border controller, looking into it Graham and but I’ve not heard whether they’re gon na find both of them uh, but now allegedly team, ew banking.
Now, looking at a possible elbow that might have landed during the five punch floor, um and they’re talking about possibly appealing the decision for me, I can’t see it no um.
I do think the rematch will take place.
I think you and Junior ego um you’ll have to take it and it really, let’s be honest, guys, it’s probably the only fight on the table for him, where he’s gon na generate that sort of income yeah true for me for me he was too Roy Jones Jr that night he was hanging.
He was hanging his chin right.
She didn’t even put boy judge, Jean’s name within the same sentence Mike no, no, he was acting to Roy Jones and he got caught is what happened.
He had his face hanged.
He was hanging his face out there he got caught.
I could see that elbow thing.
I guess that’s what he’s talking about the Goosebump that ended up.
I I I don’t know about that.
I think that’s.
Just I’ve been lean.
Smith’S just got his number Mike.
I think he started just the better fighter.
Honestly, when I see it like honestly, there, there shouldn’t even be a rematch man.
I don’t think anybody wants to see it anyway, that was a definitive and that it was a clear out Victory.
He beat him, he stopped him.
That was it.
I’Ve got a question.
I’Ve got a question for both of you.
If I’m allowed to ask questions, you know I’ve been on the platforms before you go there, Carl it.
So I just want to make a quick comment with respect to that: Eubank Smith fight so yeah if it’s with respect to them go ahead, but if you want to jump to another subject, let me let me just interject with one quick comment about you: Bank Smith.
I meant I mentioned uh uh on the Monday show on my Monday show.
I said that fight did not even appear in any of the sports sections in any of the big U.
S fight cities.
Actually, it didn’t even hit the sports section of Toronto Star the Chicago Sun Times the New York Times the Boston Herald uh, the Detroit News.
It didn’t hit any of the big five boxing Setters now, maybe Las Vegas mentioned it due to the odds involved, but anyway, so I got into quite frankly an online argument with a bunch of uh Brits who thought no.
This is yeah they’re, very unlike me and uh, but it was interesting.
I mean it didn’t make a dent over here in North America at all, not a dent uh, even with the even with the the media flare-up and and the the shite that was mentioned anyway.
The point of the matter is, is so if they want to rematch, go ahead, have a rematch, but it’s it’s going to be a Brit, only Affair.
It’S it’s yeah yeah! I I fully agree.
I definitely and Smith’s got much of a profile North American and Eubank Jr thinks yes, thank you not really not for me, but I do think you know it was still so unfilled out with a strong winded guard.
You know that’s where they’re talking about putting it.
Next, at the Liverpool Football club’s Grand which holds about 50 000.
um, so that’s where your payday comes in yeah that’ll be a big penny for sure.
I just wanted to get your thoughts on um.
Obviously you talk about the North American heavyweight State of Affairs growing and the Stella, the Stellar performance that are coming out from your heavyweights, not.
But what about Jermaine Franklin? What is important, inviting Anthony Joshua um as as Eddie Hearn pointed out, he’s he’s, got a steady, build up plan for 2023 Franti and Joshua.
This is a very calculated, very architected move.
I think I don’t think Jermaine Franklin has a chance and I think that’s the whole reason for this fight being set up in the first place.
Uh.
It would be hard for me to to say: oh yeah German Franklin he’s one of the best heavyweights out there.
No, I’m not going to say anything stupid like that at the end of the day, this is just a setup and uh.
You know onwards, but but but having said that, I don’t know where Anthony Joshua’s really gon na go what he really should do, because he’s training over here in the U.
S.
What he should really do is focus on building up his profile in the U.
S, and I don’t mean by taking on tomato cans over here tomato cans over here um.
You know, I I think he’s just though what I think he should do is maybe do some uh tv specials.
You know my fight career blah blah and all that kind of stuff get get some simple.
The boats excuse me, and you know, build up the press for for his his own profile, because that’s what he needs uh, because he could be a big uh heavyweight contender in the U.
S on U.
S, soil and and for equally as big money uh.
He doesn’t have to continually go back to dillian White and all those guys over there.
You know and he’s not he’s not going to beat Tyson Fury.
You know, I think, that’s where he does go up in this flight, though I think he fights dillian white at Wembley’s in the summer.
I think that’s brutally nailed on um.
What do you think Mike? Well, I know Jermaine frankly lost to dillian White in his last fight.
It was close.
It was close I’ll give it that um.
You know, but uh Jermaine Franklin to be honest, he’s no he’s No Superstar he’s just you know, he’s had the right right.
People in front of him to beat is all it is.
You know he doesn’t have the biggest resume.
His guys aren’t really well known, they’re, not World stage, but uh yeah.
You know he’s exciting for us.
It stops rising in the UK, though my father without dillian white performance, you wouldn’t have got the Anthony Joshua fight before that.
Would it right there is a blueprint there for some North American fighters.
I won’t name names, but you know the ones who we don’t know in the in the UK.
There is a blueprint to come over and prove your metal and you’re getting some some big paydays, I’m not saying come over and be the away fighter and get you know, kind of fodder yeah.
Well, one of my one of my points uh in the uh in the quote, unquote argument I had um because it was online um was that you know take a heavyweight fighter in the UK who gets so convinced that it has to be an all-british Champion uh.
He might all of a sudden find himself 33 34 years of age and therefore not really in contention in the U.
S uh.
So these these Fighters aren’t really looking because are they really that smart to look at their their career from a forward-thinking perspective? That’S the question, or are they Guided by the Frank Warrens and the Eddie Hearns to the point where you know they get they’re exhaust they’re exhausted their career is exhausted, they’ve had to run, they know, they’re not going to make continue to rise to the top.
You know I mean, if you ask me: Tyson Fury, is having fun and that’s fine.
He says some ridiculous things from time to time, but he’s having fun.
I mean if, if there is one guy who has made a dent in the U.
S, he has made a dent by a winning and and well actually putting what’s it say, putting his uh mouthwares, where no we’re not putting his when he raised my office right.
So you’ve not been gone from the UK that long, Graham, that you can’t remember our friends, see you in a moment um anyway, but you know so there you go so I mean uh, you know the trilogy with with wilder was, was great and that and and Well done, but after that you see, take a look at Wilder, I mean where’s, he going in his career.
You know he’s still ranked number two he’s still ranked number two in the U.
S yeah the Army is that it’s like that.
Obviously you’re gon na fight, Andrew Ruiz Jr, and I think he beats and yeah and then it could well be a four five we’ve charged in few of it.
It’Ll be a wimbled, that’s what that’s! What being bonded about in the UK – and I I put a lot on the show – a lot – a lot of people are arguing man, I was doing Wilder versus Fury sells tickets because it’s still a unique fight.
Let’S be honest, the overweight landscape is not great at the minute.
Is it no, you know so Tyson Fury is five five I know I know gray mean I’m asking family yeah, but ability wise is by far at the top of the tree.
So if it’s not dealing what it’s not John Jay Wilder, who who do you throw him in with and that’s what that’s? What Mike and I have been discussing and what you may have been listening to and as part of those discussions, is the the the crop of heavyweight talent that is being groomed in the U.
S that the UK audience are not familiar with.
It is huge, it really is a big crop and it’s a big as as in size, wise big crop like six foot, nine uh, big boys who, who are the size of Tyson Fury and I’m not saying of the caliber of Tyson Fury yet uh.
But it’s going to be a very interesting 2023 if some of those UK promoters begin to establish better relationships, see a lot of the problem also lies with the exclusive broadcast rights they have with their pay-per-view uh distribution right, so Eddie.
Well, I’ve got a big concern.
I’Ve, Graham because obviously it took my adults, it’s a Wembley for this KSI Misfits even right.
So honestly, I’m a traditional boxing fan.
The only reason I went was because she got she got to interview KSI and you know gave her an experience.
You’Ll never forget.
Did you get an autographed poster? I’Ve been to a lot of press conferences in mainstream boxing yeah and I’d like to say that version of boxing is a lot more exposure and I’ve got a big concern if the bets don’t start fighting the best yeah in mainstream boxing yeah.
You disown to this world they’re gon na get turned off because they’re they’re, driven by numbers or, let’s be honest by numbers and pay-per-views eyes, this version of box is the Misfits box, the end of the YouTuber boxing yeah.
I I I don’t like it burst lamp, but the audience and the and it and it appeals to that audience.
So I’ve been mainstream boxing’s got got to take a long order, but look at yourself and look at it as a product and start deciding.
What do we need to do to ensure that this sport hangs around at the top? Take take a look, take a look at an event coming up, I believe in March uh, but it’s called Creator Clash yeah and it’s it’s of the same caliber.
It’S basically influencers, though very wealthy influencers who can afford the very best training regimen out there, okay, so they’re, taking it very very seriously, but what they do uh they have.
The number is staggering in terms of their social followers or something like 250 million yeah like it’s incredible, yeah, 250 million followers with everybody.
That’S going to be involved in that yeah.
It’S insane like they have the ability to raise like raise the money for that they donate to charity, which is one thing: they don’t take the money for the fight uh, the the last fight that was in Tampa it was sold out.
You know ten thousand seats, not much, but the pay-per-view audience was like a hundred thousand um again, not much, but it was a test.
I think, because now they’ve moved on to a much bigger Arena, um and and they’re looking they’re looking to really truly use their exposure and their skills, and and these guys my sons were telling me who these guys were yeah yeah and the things that they’ve created On and I you know some of it, I’ve seen, but I didn’t know that that’s who that was who had created it so yeah other soundings involved in this as well, and he was stolen depending the product, maybe not the fighting but the product and what he Was saying when, when we go when we have an average Saturday night fight night in the O2, the main event – and it fills up right on the Misfits it was there from some of the plot straight away? The stadium was absolutely full for the entire card.
Wow – and he was saying his lessons to be learned here – don’t get me wrong what the the buildup was better than the products when I sat there with my doors for the whole night watching that boxing it was tough, so so that goes back.
That goes back to my point about the zone, so the Zone picks up uh for North American broadcast um, the Eubank Smith, fate, yeah and, and and and not even for pay-per-view, just part of the subscription service.
Again they were.
I think they were embarrassed by the Numbers, quite frankly, so um, not that we really like to talk about this fellow, but this will be a good example.
This whole build up to the Jake Paul fight as much as we all hate it.
At the end of the day, well, finally, he’s going to fight a real boxer.
Finally, no, but but it’s I really like these English American matchups, like I really do, I think it’s great for epoxy.
I do think a big challenge, though, with the Smith Eubank card was a time of day in North America.
I know we can’t do much about time zones, but I do know that North American fight fans don’t particularly like watching a UK card in the middle of the afternoon right.
So I think that’ll be a challenge, no matter who inspired him so, but Jake Paul was as um Tommy Fiora about jury I’ll, be I’ll, be curious to see what numbers that that does.
I see I say it does half a million half a million lives.
I think I think only because you know what he’s he’s been putting up numbers, he is controversial and you know what everybody wants to see him get knocked out.
The people are saying to me my people say to me: well, the YouTubers should be fighting on Saturday night, because that takes away five nights from mainstream boxing.
They don’t care about mainstream they’re, their own mainstream boxes, and then you can do that.
No, why shouldn’t they go on a Saturday? That’S right! It’S for mainstream boxing sort! There how’s that to make sure that you know when that does happen, it’s insignificant because the real products happening over here, the best of buying the best yeah and that’s what we need is we need the best fate and the best to keep the product on the Open up and and that’s that’s raises another point – I was really happy to see that Jake Paul has signed another female fighter to his roster uh.
So again picking up another Uber champ.
You know, I think less than 10 wins but at the end of the day, still a really great uh fighter and someone that’s obviously been ignored by the other promoters.
And I’m just saying like it’s really don’t follow him.
He called votes when it’s a promotion yeah in terms of her paydays, what they look like now, it’s what they did before right.
I’Ve got no problem with his promotional ability.
I think it’s a very good salesperson um, it’s just just to compete inside that I struggle with you know I really struggle with that.
Um, let’s say Tommy Fury.
This is all a favor.
That’S all I’m gon na say what do you think about? What do you think about his whole signed a contract with the pfl professional Fight League yeah? But I I did a big promotional bit on that yeah, and the thing is: is that they’re, the there’s something like the fighters in the main event are supposed to get like 50 or something yeah right, yeah, profit, cheering or something like that.
For this I mean it’s clear that it’s got a lot of money to throw about hasn’t it.
Well, he does.
He absolutely does yeah, no doubt about it.
I I remember mentioning a few months back.
That’S exactly what Terence Crawford should have done is you know either started his own management or promotion company and began to put on his own fights uh.
Was it Amanda Serrano who went back to Detroit and put on her own show, brought in her own broadcast company? Put her own pay-per-view uh production team together, but failed miserably.
It just goes to show you need that element of professionalism on the management and promotion and the uh the publicity side of things you need professionals.
So, just while we’re talking about growth and obviously like I said, I’ve not been on for a while um, as with anything else mentioned regarding the ebenezuelan fire in glove gate over in North America.
No, I haven’t.
No, I haven’t heard a thing since that.
That’S enough, nothing yeah, but the holy cow.
I mean the war still rages with the arrow spans.
You know duck in the fight and I mean that goes on.
But then even even the American fans will tell you that’s a fight that the English fans wouldn’t give a [ __ ] about so I think you’re on there.
Graham, I do.
Okay, I’m just saying what the American yeah yeah – I don’t even I’ll, get up in the middle of the night to watch that one obviously Spence versus Crawford yeah yeah, so yeah yeah um, just coming back onto Evolution fight.
I was disappointed with some of the Crawford.
Come coming into ebenezia’s public worker and caught a little bit of trouble as well.
I’M sure you’ve seen it on social media.
It was again it wasn’t a great look for boxing.
No, no – and you know what I think I think 2022 is one of these years.
That boxing has to really put behind it, because there was a hell of a lot of these press conference.
Weigh-In fights a lot of words being said, really like they’re, taking a gentleman’s work and they’re turning it into a street fight.
It’S not cool.
You know that was one thing that boxing always had over mixed martial arts was, you know boxing is a gentleman’s gentleman’s combat Sport and uh.
You know these guys they’re they’re, turning it into a circus man like right.
You know there’s been way too many way too many guys getting injured, what like not even getting injured, just throwing throwing shots now, just imagine if one of these guys would get injured and that fight doesn’t go on.
You know the fans lose right.
Yeah people need to get fine serious things.
Gon na happen right, there’s, there’s big things to worry about, and these guys just you know, you’re gon na get in there and fight the guy.
What the hell are you touching them beforehand? You know I call him come on and show you about talking about.
Leeward kind of that would be remiss you’ve got to admit.
Leewood has got the biggest fear of kahunas, probably in boxing yeah yeah he’s got some who’s.
He fighting next Mauricio Lara.
Oh yeah! That’S right, yeah he’s got some he’s got some cojones he’s got some cojones I’ll.
Tell you that yeah.
That just goes to show you he’s a he’s.
A he’s! A he’s! An animal on the inside man he’s a Savage.
You know interview on the channel by the way that I recorded a couple of weeks ago, just for a Shameless plug nice and then also also Connor Ben.
What about Connor Ben talking about um, going? Maybe boxing out of the Nevada commissioner, or the commissioning America rather than um, he’s got to do something before he gets forgotten about.
What’S his profile in North America, though, do people even know who he is yeah people know who he is all right.
People know who he is, I call my card call uh.
No, no, I I’d say people know who he is cheating for for taking a fertility pill.
No, they definitely know who he is now.
What can you can you imagine like either either being either being him? His trainer, his manager, his nutritionist, saying here, take this: what is it? Oh, don’t worry about it.
Just take it it’ll make you bigger, stronger, faster, it’s a women’s fertility, don’t tell a lie.
That was all a lie.
He was fully taking that [ __ ] like this anyway, that that’s that’s what made the headlines uh, not his fighting ability, his skill, his record.
No, what made the headlines was this [ __, ] uh got caught uh and testing positive uh, not once or twice uh, for I forget, what’s called clomiform or something, but at the end of the day it’s a it’s a women’s fertility pill.
So that’s! Okay! That’S what makes it laughable so it’s too bad, because he really had a really good career, lined up on the on that side of the pond uh and probably could have made it over.
Here I mean I mean if you look at the guy, I mean he’s, got the physique, that’s for sure definitely he’s got that he’s got that speed and explosiveness too uh.
Yeah Carl had a bad signal there for a sec.
We’Ll get him right back here.
He is wasn’t he about to fight Eubank Junior, your walls, yeah yeah yeah.
It was good thought to me uh well, 160 158.
He wasn’t quite sure which one it was going to be, but down down towards that way, it would have been the light, isn’t been for a long time at that stage.
Obviously you made it he made it made.
It again believed Smith, but is that why he had no point resistance, we don’t know, do it, you know.
Is it just too light? I I think I think so.
I think it was too light.
No punch resistance at all.
Do you have a couple more fight cars just to go through their mic before we yeah yeah, there’s uh, there’s there’s one more um, this one’s after the uh.
You know after the UK, before we talk about Adrian Broner yeah uh, Alex Roca versus Anthony Young um.
This one’s uh taking place starting at 8pm Eastern Standard Time, um yeah, Alex Roca current and Nebo Welterweight Champion uh this one, I’m super excited for man uh, our Boy, Floyd, Scofield uh, is on this one uh.
He just got picked up a couple of months back.
I believe it was November by Golden Boy uh, his first fight with golden boy.
He headlined the the card uh.
Now he is going against Albert Mercado versus uh for the WBA International light title so uh.
You know what shout out to Floyd.
Hopefully he comes through with that big win um also back to miracusive, be nice to see him get back in the ring taking on Ulysses, Sierra for the WBA Continental America’s super middle title yeah.
This is uh.
It’S another card man and uh, always Alexis Roca 21 and one taking on George Ashley for the WBO neighbor Welter.
It’S a good card.
Sorry, what was that title again? The WBO Nebo Welter North America, yes, yeah the a b c d: f g h, i j k, title yeah, yeah yeah, it’s a title fight! It is a title fight, also uh Alejandro Reyes, 9-0, looking to stay undefeated against Jose zargoza uh.
Definitely I think that one’s gon na be an easy one for him.
Um, but yeah.
Definitely some great fights on here man, but you know what back to miracusive kind of fell out of uh.
You know fell out of the Limelight after he lost that big, that big knockout loss he suffered against um.
Oh, what was his name? Sorry guys slipping my mind here, being old, uh, Gabriel Rosado remember when he got knocked out good one.
You remember that one Gabriel Rosado big highlight reel.
You know runner up for uh knockout of the year.
I find that uh his career is kind of, like hasn’t, hasn’t gone the same ever since then.
I think uh things put a big, a big hiccup in uh in that upward trajectory that he was on.
You know.
We haven’t really heard too much about him.
That loss and uh, you know, he’s fought a few times since then.
So you know this is going to be his fourth fight since that knockout and we haven’t heard [ __ ] about him up until now, so we can all surmise and this.
This is why, when it comes to the bigger bigger named Fighters, they have to be kept busy.
They have to be kept in the spotlight.
Their mental health have to be kept on track by being considered uh contenders, I mean the minute someone loses.
I I got ta wonder whether they hit the sauce.
They go a little crazy.
You know they get a little depressed for lack of better description and you know do things that they really shouldn’t do, and I have to wonder whether that affects the ability to manage them properly uh.
So anyway, you know there are little things that we on the outside, don’t really understand that goes on inside um.
You know these guys heads quite frankly that get bashed about every week, um so yeah.
So I I can’t answer that question example of that.
Graham, what could well be Billy, Joe Saunders, who just announced that he’s on the combat Trail correct, correct, um and we’ve talked about it? We’Ve talked about it, often with respect to Auntie Joshua.
You know like needing needing a breath of fresh air and coming over here to train in New York.
When you talk about Billy, Joe and even Tarzan Fiora, I think they need boxing more than boxing need them.
If I’m honest, already said that you know without boxing, those demons would have taken over a long time ago, yeah! Well, if you think think about it, you, you start off as a kid and you’re boxing in a gym every day, you’re looking up to your mentors for advice and all this kind of stuff, you go through an amateur.
Some do some dope, but you go through an amateur career.
You get picked up by a professional company who puts you basically on the road um and then all of a sudden you lose.
Maybe maybe Juan’s not bad, but maybe you lose two in a row.
All of a sudden you’ve been doing this, your entire life and all of a sudden you’re considered a loser.
Uh – and I know Cedric Bannon said it often that you know it’s not it’s not it’s not an L for loss, it’s an L for Learning, and but I mean it must be tough to uh.
Tell these guys, hey man, it wasn’t, you didn’t lose buddy.
You didn’t lose um yeah, I did.
I lost.
No, no, you didn’t lose.
You didn’t lose when you were sleeping before you hit the ground, clink clink, clink crumpled anyway, just Whitney.
Graham.
I can’t remember your opinion on this.
One who wins out of Fury versus Zoo, sick uh, you know that’s it’s gon na be.
I would pick you sick I’ll.
Tell you why he’s uh? They called me, be going against Tyson when he’s born just down the road from where he was born.
Come on.
He’S a Lancashire boy, I know I know listen.
I do know that, and the point is in this one though um, I don’t think yusic is gon na, allow Tyson Fury to do the old draping of the arms over the shoulders weighing his and weighing heavily on the opposition, and you know weighing him down.
I think U6 fast enough, lead-footed enough to dance around the ring, uh and and be mobile enough to avoid those big punches and so for that reason alone I think he’ll take it deep into the fight and give himself a chance to to deliver that one shot And yep knockout, maybe uh, I think Tyson Fury yeah.
Well, actually you know what uh Wilder has sort of knocked him out.
Um so it’ll be an interesting fight but yeah.
No, I I listen.
I tell you what my my opinion on Tyson Fury depends on what he says in public okay yeah.
So you know it’s Fury showing up.
He means I don’t listen to anything that isn’t in public, because he does that many u-turns that exactly exactly so he’s got with me he’s got a love-hate relationship um for me, but professionally like I.
I definitely weigh in and say use it’s got a chance.
Let’S put it that way: he’s got a chance he’s fleet-footed enough to run around and make it really hard for Fury to catch up to him.
Lay those big mitts on him and uh.
You know, but again, if Fury connects, I mean say good night.
I think I think I think Fury is going to surprise us and you’re going to see him a lot faster than you think he is really yeah.
He’S got he’s got that ability man, he can move to you know and he uh.
He only has to move as much as he needs to he’s.
Not uh he’s not wasting any energy, but you know if the competition’s gon na pick up the pace.
He definitely has the ability, the skills and the stamina and the footwork to pick that pace up too.
So I think, I think we’re gon na we’re gon na see a fast, a Fascination Fury man.
Even Tim Witherspoon was saying this a couple weeks back um.
You know Fury fights with his with his arms dangling down the side.
He he shows no defense whatsoever because he doesn’t actually care about, but I don’t have to get half the guys can’t reach his head.
[ Laughter, ] yeah, just a couple of things: um yeah boxes about opinions yeah, but I would say: Deontay Wilder, can’t keep him down for ten.
You’Ve got no chance of usually doing it and I think what Tyson Fury is going to do he’s going to demonstrate what Anthony Joshua should have done.
I’Ve been using been inflated the heavyweight Division.
I think it’s people going forwards getting to farther excited about how good he is.
I’Ve been um Advantage, Anthony Joshua, better boxing skills, it’d, be it would be um.
Well.
I’Ve been trying to feel he has got the skills um.
If we were to start Anthony Joshua from when he won those titles, it would have been a different outcome altogether.
I just think um.
I don’t think you should be able to keep him off.
I don’t believe he’s got the power and I think eventually Sergeant Fiora get to him.
Huh I’ll be used.
It’S got to buy the perfect round for 12 rounds.
Fury just needs to catch him right and, let’s be honest, there’s a good finish at Target.
If you’re a very good finisher – yes, so what’s he outweighing them by like 20 20 pounds or something like that wow the way you go out the way you go out that pool the other day did look like a middleweight didn’t say yeah, but it would be Interesting to see how they’re both coming to ring fortnite and what the weight differentiation is yeah, that’s that’s going to play a big factor into it right because you know Fury’s got that height and that length man, and once you start leaning that weight on you.
You know that was one thing that Joshua never did.
He didn’t leave no weight on him.
He was playing.
You know he.
He just wasn’t.
Wasn’T the Joshua that I remember you know he’s he’s fighting some.
You know mental illness pretty hard um.
You know he wasn’t.
Staying busy enough and honestly emotionally, I’m not sure his mental health Ma, I just think he’s earned.
I have a lot of money out of boxing and as he got the desire yeah and he got the desire, you know the old Silk.
John, Miss scenario Graham way is a lot more difficult to get up when you’re wearing silk pajamas, rather than nylon yeah, but um like I said, it’s a lot more difficult in, isn’t it when you burn when you, when you look at your bank account and you’ve Got millions and millions in there does it still has it still got the desire to keep getting punched in the head right right? That’S another thing! Well, no Joe Joyce might be a good shot against Fiora.
I think that’ll be a cracking fire.
I think I think that’s the fight right there yeah, that’s that’s afraid.
Everybody needs to see.
I think that’s a fight that needs to happen.
Joyce Fury that that’ll be a big one.
Is he being avoided, though, like seriously? Oh yes, yeah yeah, he’s in a world title management position isn’t that it took a long time for him to get there, so he ain’t gon na he ain’t gon na just jump in with anyone right um, I’m hoping the belch fragment after this um.
After this part of being sick, let’s say the fragment, and then people have been hanging around for a while can start getting their their overdue shots.
One of the uh one of the interesting uh fate, notices that I just uh read earlier today was uh the fight that is going to take place in Saudi Arabia.
Um because they they seem to be not exactly leveling the playing field, but certainly giving other types of Fighters a chance.
They’Re, certainly giving the money like, and this this in this case it’s Badu Jack and I forget the fella he’s fighting but uh.
It’S going to take place in Riyadh in Saudi Arabia and they’re getting a lot of money to fight there um you know so, and you know you, you can’t really imagine that they’re selling out stadiums – and I mean maybe they are, but I I really don’t think So I think it’s mainly for pay-per-view and I think the Saudis are going to put a lot of money into bringing over top name like the guys over in UAE.
Did it in Dubai and uh.
You know anyway.
I think that is good for boxing as well.
I was going to bring that up early and forgot to but uh.
It was interesting to see that the Saudis have confirmed another big fight now again Badu Jack, I mean we.
We talked about him a couple years ago and what have we heard of him since? Not much so does it is an a-link to kind of do in some way.
Does he live in Canada’s Swedish? I I think he I think he was once training in Montreal yeah.
At one point he was training it out of Montreal.
Another fire, the United borrowed from another Nation, okay, we’ll take anyone.
I I I I posted something on one of my social media accounts with respect to Ken Hayashi.
Oh actually, no, you know what it was.
It was uh Cedric Ben who announced you know: he’d been appointed the head trainer for boxing Ontario and yeah.
There’S often congratulations.
One of the things I said was it’s great.
You know it’s great to see uh out of the you know, there’s a fellow here better than mcken Hayashi, who absolutely destroyed boxing in Ontario, okay, so Ontario’s the biggest province in Canada.
We’Ve got probably the most amount of Fighters, the most amount of potential Fighters coming out of all these, like lots and lots of gyms okay on all these big cities.
So in 10 years time we will have a good uh crop of of talented Fighters.
Now a lot of our really talented Fighters that have gone on to other uh training facilities in other U.
S cities uh.
But I was just saying that this guy can, I actually absolutely ruined boxing uh by not allowing that now.
Remember Muhammad Muhammad Ali, hey, we just mentioned your name: Cedric um.
Well, Muhammad Ali used used to fight uh Maple Leaf Gardens.
I mean that’s how big of a boxing Mecca Toronto was and uh you know.
Can I actually just ruin the sport for boxers here? I’M sure Cedric will agree with me.
Yes can you guys yeah definitely um definitely put a damper on boxing in Ontario uh.
You mentioned um Muhammad Ali training and and had a fight in Toronto.
George Foreman also trained in Windsor too, for one of his plays because Windsor is right beside the Detroit border.
So a lot of the crunk guys all know the George Foreman wasn’t a crown guy, but a lot of a lot of risk.
Canadian Boxing history um, but with with that role with that role as far as um my role with uh boxing Ontario, unfortunately, my role cannot is not going to affect the professional side of it.
Um, I’m just the head coach for the amateurs and um.
You know the the amateurs in in uh for the provincial team for Ontario, so I’m not going to affect the profession though, but I’m slowly working my way up, I’m slowly working my way, yo.
What do you mean? You’Re building up the youth to take over the professionals, bro well Cedric, Cedric Thursday, Happy New Year.
Second of that opposite, obviously, we’ve got the most talented amateurs in boxing worldwide, so I’d imagine a trip to the UK might be in order just to maybe come over and learn from the best coaches in the world foreign, but Canada’s still still right there.
Yes, the middle table that suggests that surgery, but that’s for another day.
What we’re saying is that day will come Carl yeah.
Well, you can’t tell me that, Graham you know you keep telling me that I’ve been saying it for a year.
I’M just warning! You fair warning, fair warning: maybe I’ll play this buck in about 40 years, [ Laughter, ], well, uh, I I, but in 40 years I definitely will be proved right.
Yeah we we.
We have uh the systems, the technology, the gyms uh.
All these quote unquote forms we do have electric in the UK.
Graham, you know we do.
Have electric wait? Wait, don’t you guys still have the question the clean up water heaters that money into your your amateur athletes when I was talking to those coaches like they have? They have 12 full-time paid, professional, amateur coaches, full-time like 12 of them, for I forget how many athletes it is, but 12 full-time paid coaches.
Meanwhile, in Canada we got to volunteer to do this.
[ __ ] right, so you know.
That’S that’s! That’S where it’s.
Why we get a little bit step behind, but yeah it’s because we want to look after the Legacy it’s the greatest boxing country in the world.
That’S why we invested to ensure we remain at the Pinnacle of the sport, but it’s amateur, I’m through Cedric is saying this by the way, while being driven by a limo driver and yeah on his way to Brampton.
It was driving by some of the rubbishes coming out his mouth.
Oh he’s got rubbish on his head anyway, Canadians dude! What’S that that oh yeah, you see a blue light appear behind him in a couple of minutes.
No doubt yeah, that’s our snowplows, hey! You know, as we went as we wind down the show here.
I just wanted a quick comment with respect to Adrian Broner.
Yeah here was a guy who was once was really respected in the sport and and now he’s fighting uh Williams uh because he was going to fight Hank, Lundy and Hank Lundy, I think, is under suspension or something like that.
But the point matter is, is what the heck I mean.
I don’t know who’s managing Broner these days, but what the heck is up with that guy and anyone read anything lately like I I’m eating, but it still takes a team to to keep you together and keep you focused and you don’t have.
If you don’t have the right team around you, I mean I don’t want to just blame the people that are around them like it’s also.
You have to also take self-responsibility for the things that you’re doing but, like you know, a lot of times, you get a lot of.
Sometimes some some people get influenced, get more influenced by the outside factors, whether sort of the people that are around them that get them into situations that that get them distracted and keep them away from from training.
For for boxing and uh, you know some athletes can.
Can you know he’s minimize those decisions? What you’re trying to say said, let me let me narrow down that sentence for you.
So what you’re saying is that he’s not living the life? Yes, exactly! No he’s not.
He hasn’t fought, he hasn’t even been in the ring in two years: wow yeah, it’s been he’s been he’s been absent for two years and now he’s gon na fight on the 25th of February same night as Jake Paul yep.
It is a fool From Grace so into mark, because it was considered one of the artistic prospects that coming out of Mayweather’s promotional team.
He was one of Mayweather’s Blue Chip prospects.
Man he was was never under me.
Weather’S thing he was just self-proclaimed as the next Mayweather.
That’S what made him so popular.
He was close to me.
We’Re like Mayweather, you know, hung out with him a couple times, but he was claimed himself self-proclaiming, the next Mayweather.
That’S what was making him so popular and uh, but he was never actually Associated like he was never under Mayweather’s promotion or anything like that, but uh yeah he did have a big fall.
Man, like you know, Blue Chip Prospect talked about in the media.
All the time you know, then, two years uh two years Hiatus like he’s, got a respectable record.
I’M not I’m just surprised he’s going up against this guy Williams, who oh yeah, the guy Williams, is a joke, and is it BLK Prime is on? Is that the yeah okay Prime, which is another new uh, another new uh promotion company? Do we never eat behind the outfit uh? We did um, it’s it’s one.
It it’s funded, it’s funded privately, but it’s it’s fronted.
It’S the Silicon Valley, EFC Investment Group who owns it right, but but it was fronted by it’s it’s one of the boxers who fronts it.
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