Talkin Fight: Knuckle Up
Watch Knuckle Up with Mike Orr and his special guest (and former “amateur” boxer) Drew Douris – Talkin’ Tarot – who discusses his childhood fighting career and also makes some predictions regarding a few upcoming fights.
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Window, open, yeah, hey, welcome to talk and fight once again we’re joined by mike gore host of knuckle up and we have a special guest joining us today.
Dangerous drew duras he’s going to talk to us about whatever he feels like, but it’s yours, it’s your show.
Mike, why don’t you? Why don’t you lead us on all right? I told you guys.
Uh friday was female friday for the prospects.
True um, i stumbled upon uh this young woman um, which they’re calling maybe the future of women’s boxing she’s uh 15 year old.
Sarah brownell she’s already captured top honors in 11, national and regional tournaments.
She started boxing in 2015, she collected gold medals at the 2019 junior open, the 2019 national pal, the 2019 and 2017 national junior olympics, the 2017 western regional open and the eastern regional open in 2017, 2018 and 2019.
This girl’s only 15 years old.
She goes on record, saying she stays focused and hungry and no matter her accomplishments or accolades she’s always striving to do better.
This girl is, in you know what this girl she’s she’s honestly, could be the future of female boxing.
She has long term goals, she wants to compete in the 2024 and 2028 olympics and she wants gold we’re looking at maybe another clearness of shields in the works.
To be honest, uh she comes from a boxing family.
She started off boxing in her uncle’s gym in albany.
Eventually she moved down to.
I believe it is uh marietta georgia and she is training at a lugo boxing and fitness there and um.
She comes from a boxing family um.
She got into boxing only because her dad kind of was against it and she did it to rebel, because she believes that women today should be able to compete in a male, dominated sport and and be able to.
You know strive to be the best and – and you know win championships and you know do as well as these men do.
She wants to prove that women can do what men can do and maybe do it better with a little more finesse – and you know, she’s only 15 she’s got her a whole career ahead of her an entire career and as long as she keeps on the straight And narrow you will see this girl’s name popping up everywhere in female professional boxing when it comes time for her to make that transition so just be on the lookout for this girl.
Saria brownell is her name.
She is by far this this little prodigy that um we’re gon na we’re gon na see in the future, and i mean a lot of her, that’s for sure before the pandemic broke out, when i was going by gyms, just have a look uh, i i would Argue there was just as many women as there were men, if not more women in these gyms than men, so i’m not so sure if you, if you took a head count whether or not you might find out uh there were more women in uh.
You know taking boxing, certainly as a training, regimen uh fitness right, boxing’s, good fitness, so a lot of women take it for fitness and self-defense, but um.
You know very, i guess more and more now you see them getting in there to compete.
Like you know, we had um, we had our politician or sorry our counselor on the other week, you know and uh there’s there’s another one that uh that definitely you know got into the ring and and competed.
So it’s not just for it’s not just for fun, and it’s not just for fitness.
These women are taking it serious man and and uh.
It’S i’m stumbled upon some great great athletes.
I hope that i hope to find a lot more and um, and hopefully, if there are some out there that watch us, you know, watch us reach out to us man, we’d love to have you on for sure.
I would love to give a shout out to uh to scarlet and congratulations on our debut show female fist.
It was awesome i watched it.
I liked it knuckle up.
Fans check it out on talk and fight, live.
com and um sounds like an interesting show.
Definitely definitely it’s interesting she’s uh, her herself is a good candidate and a good face for representing female boxers out there, so dangerous drew on that note.
How are you doing today, i’m doing fantastic? Thank you.
Speaking of great fighters, yeah yeah yeah speak it up.
Uh knuckle up knuckle up fans uh.
We have dangerous drew on here today and uh.
We’Re gon na talk, uh we’re gon na talk to him about uh, a different kind of uh boxing uh we’re gon na talk, some underground and uh.
The city of toronto and um drew take us away.
Buddy tell us! Well, i i had some fights in the late 70s after i finished my judo, i was a judo champion in 1975 of toronto.
For my age group i was 12.
and uh came out of that and uh was doing some boxing with my buddy dave.
Well, if i answered his last name, i had statue of limitations for fight club right, steve hutchinson from news boys and uh.
So we had some, we started doing some underground fights.
It was mostly arranged by a guy named chris gavin, i’m really selling everybody out.
Now we would, it was done in the behind.
We did it in garages school yards gyms, wherever we could, and actually the money that was made was mostly from the betting, but i did uh did make some cash and uh and i got i think i got paid one time: some cash and a super [ __ ] album because they had just come out and had i think it was crisis.
What crisis it wasn’t crime of the century.
Well, i don’t have enough cash to pay you, but i have this cash and super trampoline was like awesome and uh.
Actually, the last fight i had was a guy against a guy named andy miller and uh.
He was roped open to me because you know ali was in his late 70s and he had me in the rope-a-dope and instead of like tiring me out.
I just sat there and kind of flailed around until he opened his arm and i did just an uppercut right with my right and snapped him off.
He went down i quit after that, because he never he i thought.
Oh did i just kill him.
He went down like damn.
I could hurt his snap because i just went right up with the uppercut and uh.
I said: okay, i think i’m done with this right now, because it was just it kind of scared me actually because and it wasn’t that wasn’t bare knuckle.
We were using gloves too.
At that time i had gloves on – and i was just gon na – ask that and i just i came up and scooped and i’m like.
I just remember him passing him and i think he cried.
I don’t know and i’m like no moss.
I did a roberto duran in a different way, so yeah and so but it was it was kind of like we just call each other up and we find out where it was and usually um.
We have one one person that would run it and kind of match people up and then they would take bets and basically, just like you see in fight club standing around, and so i don’t wan na.
That’S mainly my experience with it and we were.
I was younger than probably most people that are doing the underground would probably be a lot more dangerous.
If you know what i mean because uh i was probably around 16 17, when i stopped doing that.
So i’m sure i know there was other fights going on that i saw and uh and he was underground, but i don’t we never really worried about anything.
You know like that.
It was illegal or anything.
It was just fighting for money and and and super [ __ ], albums, [ Laughter, ], hey out of curiosity uh, because you both seem to be of that same age.
Were you also, because i think uh mark galloway was fighting out of news boys as well? Yeah, you know what i know mark and but now that i didn’t know now they think about it, because i know mark now, obviously but right through a different thing, but now that i think about it.
The name sounds familiar.
I remember uh cabbage town and news boys and there was dynamite defoe.
I mentioned his name earlier.
He used to remember saturday mornings on city tv they’d have the yeah the bouts and uh like 10 11 in the morning uh he was on like it was just local and they do uh amateur bouts from from the youngest like kids, to like 14 15.
I don’t know if you remember that i i don’t know man i’m a little younger than you guys so probably yeah, yeah you’re, like three or four years younger [, Laughter ].
Thanks thanks, i was hoping at least man – 40 man, i’m only 40.
, and then i decided to uh.
You know become a psychic, futuristic prognosticator.
So so a couple of couple shots to the head.
Um made you see stuff into the future.
I guess! Oh, my god.
I’M punch drunk dave, my buddy dave hutchinson uh newsboy, so we a little bit but not long, and then we just i just started going to uh a gym with a bag and trained on my own with uh.
I had a coach, but it wasn’t that news boys.
After that i uh.
I was mostly in a judo at the time i was with uh.
If you remember shamrock club – and i don’t know i get too young and uh my teacher um.
What did my do? What do you call them? I so long ago my teacher and judo had high blood pressure, so he quit and i didn’t want to join another club, but i was on my way up and uh.
I just didn’t want to travel because i was young and i didn’t want to go to the other club, i’m just too far away, and so then i did a little boxing and then most of my fighting was in hockey.
After that, i did have about 40 fights: oh yeah, yeah.
Honestly, i did boxing well, i did hockey and yeah i’ll tell you.
I have a bite mark on my thumb.
Some hockey i had a guy took his helmet off, got my thumb in there.
He bit my finger and about 10 years later, i’m going to hockey tournament in minden for an all-star team and the guy beside me.
We started talking about a fight.
I said some eight he’ll bit my finger and he looks at me and goes that was me.
I go what he goes.
Well, you stuck your thumb in my mouth.
He said there was a reaction, so drew was in the 70s, so i guess the underground the underground fighting it was.
It was a big thing right like well from on my side.
What i hear from what i hear like there, there were people in attendance like it wasn’t like yeah we had to crap yeah.
There was a crowd right like so it was a big thing um i remember like at least 40 or 50 people there, but there’s some.
Some are bigger ones, but the mine was probably not as big as the ones you there was some.
Probably i’m talking.
The older guys we were younger, we were high school, we did our own and i knew about those, but we had probably i remember one where they had to be the one where i knocked andy miller, that was about 50 to 60 people.
Oh yeah, that’s crazy! I bet on myself i make my money.
You got to make sure you win that one.
Then i had to yeah.
So i mean i mean what we do.
Is you get a call um yeah we’re going to meet here.
You you’re going to fight this guy and we’re going to pay you this much and then the bedding and that, like that, so it’s kind of like okay.
Then you show up and you go we’re using gloves we’re not using gloves and so he’d have the gloves and go.
Are you using these? You know, but usually it was not so much bare knuckle.
We would put some gloves on, but it you can tell i knocked about so, and i’m only wet.
I was one a buck 50.
, so you know it’s not really a knockout weight right, yeah.
True true, that was my only knockout and i was never.
I never lost.
Are you keeping up to date with today’s boxing um yeah? I really like thomas the hitman hearns.
Wait how how old am i no um? I i was and then after the i started, watching the mma, mostly in um ufc.
Sorry all that and uh, but i really like boxing a lot i mean i watched in 80s uh.
You know all the roberto, duran and sugar ray ladder and um when which is a pacquiao and uh.
It’S a kid from oxnard california uh.
He always fought against uh pacquiao.
You know what i’m talking about mayweather from he’s from knoxville california um, i’m not sure it’ll.
Wait thanks, drew yeah.
I can’t remember what i’m thinking about it’ll come it’ll come to me, give us some dead air on your first appearance.
Okay, anyways, i’m probably not so much in the last five or six years, but i’ll tell you, drew um honestly get back in there.
Man boxing’s getting really exciting right now, the heavyweights.
The heavyweight division, is very exciting um.
You know you get the lightweights, uh they’re, just as exciting there’s a lot of crazy new prospects coming up.
I put one on my show every day, guys to watch.
You know: they’ve got these impressive amateur records and now you know they’re they’re.
Turning pro and they’re already getting ranked, you know world world numbers here, you know with just a few fights under their belt man, you know get back into it, love it i’m backing in to get in shape too just jordan and i have been working out and Doing ballet at the same time to uh don’t seriously yeah it’s great! It’S just here: yeah, i’m running out of tights! Oh here we go she’s running out of tights and and our rating keeps going rocking rating skyrocket.
Oh, i had nothing to do with it, but i thought you said i have nothing on oh [, Laughter, ], yeah, so uh, pretty good jordan used to kickbox.
I didn’t know that now i just jig so yeah we’ve been training, we’ve been training together and working out.
It’S good, it’s good for the health right.
She also does readings with me too, and she’s also a psychic yeah.
I mean that’s.
What work here is about whether or not you can predict fights yeah yeah.
Give me one i’ll tell you who’s going to win good mike um who’s coming up.
Who? Oh, let’s see, um, let’s see what belt we can we can.
We can do here here um.
Let’S go tyson fury and his next vote, which i believe is against anthony joshua, okay, joshua anybody’s fighting any sign to you.
There’S a big thing.
I think it might be joshua fury tyson, fury, tyson fury.
That’S my card tyson fury’s gon na win that one yeah.
Now don’t bet on if you, if you lose, don’t try and get the money out of me, but [ Laughter, ], all right! All right! Okay, we’ll see that that fight is uh that fight’s getting scheduled up to happen this year.
Sometimes so he’s going to come out furiously well tyson.
He is, he is the champ right now there is some stuff going on with uh with you know, uh deontay wilder getting a little upset that uh tyson fury doesn’t want to honor the third fight that he was promised and that he wants to fight anthony joshua.
So there’s a lot of things going on.
He will get that fight by the way.
I just looked at that uh i’ll, definitely check that out we’ll see he will get that fight opportunity.
What what boxing fans all better, truly curious about uh is whether or not uh logan paul is going to beat floyd mayweather.
No, that’s not going to happen.
Oh, let me tell you what i see i’ll logan, paul logan, paul, floyd mayweather, all right.
Let’S see what we got: who’s gon na win, [, Music, ], mayweather, yes, [, Laughter, ] mayweather is going to knock that kid’s head off the champ is yeah.
I got the uh.
I got the star card for him for mayweather he’s gon na knock his head off awesome.
That being said, that being said, i know we’re uh we’re getting time to the end of the show here.
So um you have any more questions for our guest.
Dangerous drew jurors uh.
No, just one will will he join us again one day? Oh absolutely any time is it in the cards it’s in the cards.
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