AIR DATE: Oct 25 2021 14:22UTC
EPISODE: Episode 21
Live with “Fly” Mike Marshall | Knuckle Up | Talkin Fight
Today Mike is joined by New England Heavyweight Champion “Fly” Mike Marshall live in the studio.
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[, Music, ], hello, boxing fans around the world.
Thank you join us once again, another episode of knuckle up featuring mike orr at four on talk and fight, and today, as promised, we have a very special guest lined up in the studio to answer your questions about the heavyweight division.
Yes, all right, i’m super excited he’s our first active heavyweight we’ve actually had on the show uh two interview.
Without further ado, i guess we’re gon na bring him on man.
It’S uh fly mike marshall.
You guys might remember him.
Uh fighting on the fury card opening boat uh.
I can’t wait to talk to him about that experience and uh.
You know his whole career and and and this heavyweight division and what needs to be done in this heavyweight division.
You know what graham we’re going to we’re going to knock you out of this and we’re going to bring in mike and we’re going to have a discussion with them and ask a whole bunch of questions and have some fun consider being knocked out and uh.
I’Ll see you later yeah man, definitely mike how’s it going man hey how you doing how you doing not bad, not bad.
Thank you for uh for uh, taking the time out of your busy schedule.
I know you know you’re an active fighter, you’re training.
All the time and you’re training hard enough coming off your big fight there just a couple weekends ago.
Thank you for taking the time man much respect, much love uh! Absolutely! Thank you.
I appreciate it um.
I want to get right into it, man um.
So what? What age did you start boxing at? I started boxing around 17 years old um right out like right after high school round 17 going on the 18 and uh and uh i haven’t stopped being in the gym since you just got addicted.
You got bit by that bug.
Did you play uh? Did you play any other sports in high school or anything like that? I mean i played basketball in middle school played freshman year high school, i played football, but you know it really wasn’t my thing like you know football basketball really wasn’t my thing like because i had to depend on the team right or the individualist or whatever you Want to call like um yeah and that’s how boxing came around.
I just walked in the gym one day and just you know, and it changed my life changed.
Your life fell in love with it um.
So currently what uh? What jim, what gym? Do you box with right now and uh, who are your trainers? Well right now i train out in uh um out in danbury, connecticut uh.
My train is dave.
Mcdonough uh benny little uh is the champ.
The gym is changed by champs, champs, boston, club and danbury.
There’S another chance, boston club in uh in new york right, but it’s um.
This is champs bicycle club in danbury, connecticut um.
Is the boxing team really big up in connecticut? It’S a it’s got a really big boxing team.
I mean you know yeah, there’s a couple of guys that are good.
You know, i don’t know.
Excuse me on the amateur level like on the amateur teams out in connecticut, they’re, really good they’d be seeing some good prospects out there.
Actually, out of the gym, aj gallante runs the gym out there.
I don’t know if you’re familiar with him, he got a show on uh on netflix.
That’S really good uh about the damn baby trashes and you can see.
That’S that’s the gym.
So when you look at that movie, you see that movie on netflix crime and penalties.
You look at that.
That’S the gem right there and it has also also has the number one heavyweight in junior and amateur, coming out that uh gym uh finale feliz.
So you know be on the lookout: yeah, that’s a good job um.
So what um? What influence you to actually get in the ring and start competing uh uh? Well, when i came in this sport, i didn’t come in it to be an amateur champion or um.
A golden glove champion, i didn’t even know what that that was.
You know i just wanted to fight on.
You know i wanted to be the guy to fight on tv.
You know i didn’t you know.
I wanted to be professional coming into this sport, so i didn’t really focus on the amateurs, but i had to do it and i got my experience from that and um.
You know being around guys in the gym and seeing other guys in the gym and they’re competing and they’re fighting.
I mean, if you say, you’re a boxer.
You got ta fight right right, you can’t, you can’t be a boxer and not fights you have to do it.
You can’t just say um did you? Did you have much of an amateur career like? Did you compete as an amateur and for how long man i had about maybe 30 fights? I was like 15 and 15 or something like that right yeah, it was uh, but it was all learning.
You know all learners all experienced again.
I’M an 18 17 year old man, man, child or whatever, like you, know, right, i’m on my way to adulthood.
A lot of these guys have been doing this since they were five six years old, but i didn’t use that as an excuse, because some days in the gym i beat guys like that.
You know i beat on guys like that.
So right, you know it’s! It’S about what you make it’s all about getting experience and that’s what it’s about, but yeah my amateur record wasn’t great, but i just had to make sure my professional one was you know what right now you’re supporting the six two and one.
I believe it is.
It’S you got a winning record uh you’re, coming off that uh that defeat off of uh, vic, victor vikurst or whatever his name was.
I believe i believe you stepped up really huge for that fight too.
Did you take it on short notice at all, or no? No, i had time to prepare because we uh we.
We were scheduled to fight him in august, right, the fury camp or whoever called covet, and they had to cancel moved it.
So we had time it’s just that.
You know um, we worried, i won’t say we wasn’t prepared because we were ready.
You know i’m saying, but what it was was um.
His his speed took uh his the position of his jab took, took me off right.
It took me off so it and just looking like that it was just like ah cause.
I would look at tapes of him and be like.
Oh this guy’s slow right right.
You know honestly i’d seen fights i’d, seen fights previous to the one where you fought against him a couple weekends ago, and you know he didn’t look.
He didn’t look as fast, that’s for sure, um! So yeah, i guess the speed.
I guess he did something with his speed and and caught you off guard, but hey back to the drawing board.
You know what you’re gon na you’re bouncing back tough you’re back on.
Instead, just you know, loving life.
That’S that’s what i like man, you know honestly, you you got it.
You got great heart uh.
You know it shows that in the ring man you’re, a tough guy um honestly uh run us through a day of uh day of training camp like uh.
You know how long are your camps and then what does it consist of man uh? Well, it depends on what the guys at the gym got planned for me.
As far as you know, what goes down but some days it’s like um, you know i go to work, you know i mean i got ta, you know i got ta.
Have you know i go? I i go to work and every day after work, then it goes to you know, training as far as so some days, my regimen, it varies depends on what the guys have for me.
Like you know so certain days i will go to conditioning and certain days i go to the gym some days.
Certain days would be we’d be traveling for sparring.
You know so that’s just bait, but the thing is is like it’s not really camp.
That’S what i do on the regular.
That’S my life right, yeah right, so you know it’s not necessarily like.
Oh i got to do this.
I got to do it now.
It’S just like all right.
This is what i got to do to get the fight done.
You know what i mean.
That’S my attitude towards it um.
You said you said you travel for sparring.
Um is: do you find it hard to get a lot of sparring um sessions in and that’s why you have to travel or is it just there’s not a lot of people to spar in the heavyweight division where you’re at yeah? It’S really not a lot of people to spawn in the connecticut area, because there’s not a lot of heavyweights in this area.
Sometimes we have to go to.
Sometimes you know me and my team will go to mass or you know everybody knows me in new york.
So we’ll go to new york and you know: go box there, philadelphia um, i’m i’m! I’M really gon na go anywhere for work.
You know, i’m saying that’s a good one.
You know i mean it depends on.
Who is it and what you know the stars got ta align exactly exactly exactly um for for the people that want for the people that are watching today, um, you know, who’ve, never seen you fight before uh, which fight do you think uh represents you at your.
You know you at your best or the best performance you put on to show really who you are uh, go back and watching your reels, who do you, which, which fight would it be man, um she’s? I like to fight with me and steve for cool me and steve fukuska.
They gave me a draw on that love, but you know i really like steve.
Steve is a good guy, because when i went in there when i went in the weigh-in and uh you know you go in there tough face yeah yeah, so you go in there and steve just walked up to me.
He was like hey man, i’m a big! I’M a huge fan, man, you know steve is a nice guy.
He came up to me and said yo mike i’m a huge fan man.
I saw that i saw your last fight here and i was like wow and i was like it was hard to hate a guy or, like you know, not like a guy, but i think a lot of people from that fight.
They could like they could watch that fight and they could see like oh wow.
You know this cake does have some skills with, but uh steve is a vet, so i say that’s probably like out of all my pro fights, that’s probably like my favorite one, even though it ended in the draw yeah yeah.
I hated that yeah that sucks it sucks, but you know what it’s it’s.
It’S the judges, that’s what happens when we leave in the judge’s hands.
You know that man, you do work, that’s what it’s about right, the minute you leave it.
You can’t really.
You know you can’t really say much yeah, absolutely um.
Are there any short-term goals, you’d like to accomplish say in the next few months to a year a couple of years, um yeah well in the next couple months like for the next three months, because you know i do have goals right now right now, we’re looking At a january date, so for for another fight in the heavyweight division but um right now, i’m just looking i’m probably gon na cut down, i’m looking to cut like 15 pounds right now.
You know i got some extra.
You know i got some extra fluff that i need to get rid of, and you know i’m gon na work on i’m gon na focus on getting that off and uh and uh get right for this vision right right.
Well, you know what man you you work hard.
Your instagram definitely shows that man.
You know you you’re working you’re working your butt off uh, so you know you’re gon na get what you put into it right.
That’S that’s! Absolutely yeah! That’S how the game go right, that’s exactly how the game goes.
Where do you see yourself in say five to ten years? Where would you like to be in five to ten years wow, hopefully at a spot where i could contend for the world title or a world title? You know, i i mean it’s so many of them.
Can i have one you know or just being another opportunity, because you know i mean a lot of guys, a lot of guys wouldn’t have took in the fight and i’m glad i took the fight um, my last fight with voss.
I’M glad i took the fight because a lot of guys would have never took that fight early in their career like i did so i did it and they gave me an opportunity and it was a great experience and i’d be more than happy to do it Again, if i have to what uh, what’s the biggest thing that you think um, like the biggest lesson say that you might have taken away from that fight that you’ve learned wow, it’s just so much experience i gained from that um.
You have to work on being.
First and establishing yourself right, that’s number one like that’s one thing i picked up from that fight being first being first is very important because you could tell somebody that, and they won’t get it it’s like you, you could.
You could lead a host of water, but you can’t make them drink right.
So it’s like when you experience for yourself.
You see how how important being first is in the ring.
Is it? Is it an added? Isn’T it like an extra added pressure knowing that you got millions of people watching? Is it no? It doesn’t even change you at that point, just you’re, just in there to turn that hat on i mean yeah.
I got i got millions of people watching, but what they gon na they gon na fight for me, you’re right, right, [, Laughter, ], true they’re, not gon na fight.
For me, i have to you know i have to go in there dude you do what i have to do, um, what uh, what strengths? Do you believe that you have that make you the athlete that you are today, i’m i’m when i’m in the ring, i’m very aware, because the guy’s punches the guy’s punching at you.
You know so i think one of my strengths is being very aware of being able to evade punches.
So you look at the fight again.
You see that he couldn’t, he was trying to land a big right hand, oh yeah, he was he was trying to just he was trying to find that spot, but he just couldn’t he couldn’t he couldn’t you know and – and – and i like that – and you know I’M gon na work off that you know i’m gon na work off that and and i’m gon na and i’m gon na, keep that in my arsenal for for continuation, but i definitely um want to keep building off that you know just keep building.
Okay, hey honestly! I i was, i was surprised he was looking for that big ko.
He just couldn’t you know he used his job.
His job was a lot faster than i saw him in the previous uh.
Definitely he was working on some speed, so i guess um.
I guess you’re going to go back and start to to work on something to help.
You know uh fight against that.
I guess, would you rematch them? Were you taking them yeah, absolutely absolutely if they offer the same money or more money.
Definitely, honestly, mike! You got you got such a great attitude, man you’re, always so happy.
Every time i see you on insta you’re, loving it up.
You’Re living life, man, you’re living your dream, um words of wisdom for younger kids coming up uh.
You know in your footsteps and stuff like that, like uh, who were following in the same path, what would you well one thing i would do is to one thing i would say to a kid is to dedicate yourself to it.
You know and don’t and and don’t let anything.
This is what i would say to my brother.
I’M saying this to my little brother too cause he played.
He played basketball.
Okay, so you know if, if you’re going to be there, be there for what you want to do as far as um athletics or if you want to be a professional fighter, whatever whatever the case may be, my best advice is to use to drown yourself in It don’t get distracted with other things because distractions.
It may not seem like a lot, but if you let distractions get in the he’ll pilot, yeah it’ll pile up on you and you know, and you won’t be able to focus on your ties going out and everything going to the club.
All that stuff is it’s going to be there.
You know it’s going to be there.
I mean listen, it’s going to be there, it’s going to be, and then – and you know you don’t have to do it – you know.
I’M saying all you have to do is do what you came here for if you want to play bad whatever it is basketball football.
If that’s your sport stay focused on it and get better, that’s what it’s all about and if you got a lady, you know treat her right and you know don’t make mistakes with her.
You know because if she’s on your side – and you know, there’s going to be other there’s going to be other women looking at you and all this stuff but yeah, you know and it happens.
But you know, if you got a lady and she’s been holding you down, you need to do the right thing.
So you know, and that’s the best advice i can say is just do the right thing.
You know it’s, it’s it’s great advice.
Actually, man, it’s it’s! It’S great advice: man keep god first too excellent, excellent, yo! Honestly i love it.
I love the words of wisdom for the youth, all the people watching around the world trust me.
You heard it here, like marshall yo, how do we? How do we get the nickname brother? How did we get uh fly mike? Oh, how did i get it yeah, so my father’s favorite movie coming up with superfly what yeah yeah yeah.
So he like he liked the superfly, but he liked it for the wrong reasons.
But i like the name yeah, so i just i just kept it and i just said fly my i didn’t you know i just i just said it and it just stuck.
So i just got it.
You know that’s excellent, okay.
So now, when i want to start asking you some questions about the heavyweight division, um um, what do you believe needs to be done in the heavyweight division to uncork this stuff and get guys fighting? Well, the promoters just got ta work with each other.
That’S that’s! A big thing right now, right, like the promoters, are working together.
No, i wouldn’t say that i wouldn’t say they’re not working with each other.
I see top rank, ranking and uh.
You know a lot of our hayman fighters are fighting on these.
These these top ranked cars.
So i would i i it’s a start.
You know it’s a start and guys just got ta fight each other.
You know just fight we’re fighters.
There’S a lot of there’s a lot of.
Do you find that the there’s a lot of politics involved still in in boxing? I know like a lot of people, always say that politics is the reason why this guy’s, not gon na fight this guy or this guy’s, ducking that guy or this or these promoters won’t get together.
Is it still a big like? Is there? Is there a lot of politics still driven driving boxing? Oh yeah, oh yeah, and everybody has different reasons for whatever, but you know i’m just there to make sure i get out the ring with still with my faculties and play my part, because one day one day, i hope that i’m able to still be able to Be blessed enough to pass it on and teach somebody something you know right so right.
You know you do about politics, you in politics by training hard and getting a knockout yeah.
You know, but other than that you know.
Yeah yeah i get it.
I get it! Um, if you could uh okay who’s uh, who would be your next opponent like who? Would you call up right now like what so, what direction are you going who’s the next who’s who’s the next victim to to fall under fly mike well, um? I don’t really go by that.
I pay attention.
I watch everything.
Okay, i watch because i i love boxing, so i watch boxing.
I pay attention to everybody, but i really don’t have no lists.
There’S no list for me.
It’S just like you know, line them up.
My job is to knock them down.
You know whatever the job it and and the purse got to be right too.
You know i’ll be happy if the purse is right, the purse first, i really don’t have a hit list.
I don’t go, i don’t go about it like that, but i do have target and i do have a goal and if everything lines up with the goal, then it doesn’t matter who you needs to get to that goal.
You have that and your team is working to get you the pathway to that goal, and you don’t give a crap what pathway it is really uh, absolutely because at the end of the day, it’s like, i don’t.
I don’t want to say, sit here and call out names.
I don’t want to do that, but i do watch boxing.
I do pay attention right.
What’S up, what’s what’s your favorite division to watch right now in boxing i like the division um i like heavyweight.
Of course, uh middleweight super metal weight.
I like lightweight cruiser.
I i like some cruiserweights, not a lot of cruiserweights, but uh lightweight is 140 or 130.
I believe it’s one uh.
Let me check, i can’t remember it’s it’s it’s there.
It’S there like, like 30 to 40.
I like watching those guys i like watching tanks yeah like the the 30, the 30 to 40 uh 30 to 40, okay, yeah yeah um.
I believe we have some questions here from uh.
Some people watching uh dusty dusty mumford says how are the matchmakers going to improve the heavyweight division they got.
Ta make the fights they make the fights.
You know the fighters is ready and you know that’s it just make the fights awesome.
Uh we got another one here from vinnie ali uh asking the heavyweight division has been called clogged.
Do you agree? Is it clogged up? Is it is it? Is it slow? Is it not moving uh, okay and how how you, how would you set up a fantasy route to unclogging it? Well, i think it’s gon na open up.
You know uh tyson, there’s a lot of heavyweights in the division.
You know i mean there’s a lot of interesting fights to make this guy’s like otto wailing.
Alan walin is a beast, you know, and it’s like nobody wants to fight him.
So it’s like you know.
I mean these guys, there’s guys out there to fight right.
You know what i’m saying, so it’s not like you know it’s clawed.
They just got to make the fight.
I mean dylan, white dylan white got a shoulder injury, yeah yeah man yeah exactly i was.
I was very disappointed in that you know after after such a big.
Like honestly, i don’t know how many years it’s been since i’ve seen an all heavyweight card you were on you know, and and and the heavyweight division started to gain that that that kind of momentum again right and then we have this next big fight, lined up To go, and then nothing happens.
Oh it’s just yes, it’s frustrating! It’S frustrating for a boxing fan, you being a professional boxer in your division, must be frustrating plus.
You know, you’re also a fan as well man.
So it’s got to be frustrating all around all around.
I was looking forward to that fight man.
I was like me too me too so you’re looking you’re looking probably january said by the time you’re gon na be back in the ring.
Yeah 2022 i’m gon na take the rest of the year off.
I fought five times this year y’all.
I know, and i know super busy um you know like there were there wasn’t there’s not a lot of people that that are that, are you know, moving that kind of that kind of speed through the divisions, and you know honestly man.
I commend you on your on your your heart, your experience, yo everything that you do honestly you’re a great role model for the younger guys that are coming up in the leagues and uh.
You know, honestly, that’s why i had that.
You know i had to reach out man because honestly you’re doing big things, you know you’re a heavyweight.
I want to say this, i’m not.
I i’m grateful for that.
I’M not perfect man right like we all got.
We all got some [ __ ] with us, but right you know at the end of the day you know um, you know i i just try to like just stay on a on a on a path of you know, so i can get a victory.
The next victory you know, i just stay on that path and that’s what it’s important staying on the path right, that’s what i try to tell the kids.
You know don’t get sidetracked because anything is side tracking.
So many things out there that can side track you.
It’S always be in focus, that’s for sure um, when you’re ready when you’re ready to like you know when you’re ready to retire, not and not just walk away from the world just retire.
You know maybe coach or something like that.
What’S what legacy do you want to leave behind for for all your fans like? What do you want to be known, for? I just want to be the god known for showing up and just getting it and and going 100 and trying to get the job done.
That’S it hopefully going for a title one day or compete or or even contending for a title.
Don’T matter to me, i mean like i’m a kid, i’m a kid who who who was on the corner right yeah, i mean like yeah, you know so at the end of the day, i’m just happy to i’m just happy man just and just know me for My skill like just see what i’m doing, no matter what the commentators are saying on the on the ring side, because sometimes they don’t they don’t even know what the hell they talk about.
Yo half the time they ain’t even watching the same fight i’m watching they didn’t even have a fight.
So how you gon na talk to me about fighting and you ain’t having a fight right right.
You know what i’m saying so come on.
Like you know, that’s the me, that’s the media aspect of it, but at the end of the day you know just yeah.
Just respect me for being real.
My skill, that’s it! You know, awesome awesome.
I love it.
You know great answer mike.
Thank you for taking all the time out of your schedule to uh.
You know join me here, jump on the show.
Definitely we want to have you back in the future man, maybe after your next fight in january, because i know yeah absolutely take some time off now.
Uh, you know enjoy it.
You fought five times this year.
Man, that’s big things.
You know you’re supporting a winning record, so you know what we’re definitely uh, we’re.
Definitely behind you here at the talk and fight family.
We’Re definitely gon na promote push you as much as we can.
You know and uh we’re definitely gon na, be watching all your fights um.
Yes, we will invite you back uh after the next fight for sure to come on and have the same sort of conversation and um.
You know what to our fans out there watching thanks for the uh questions, uh, we got to let you get back to work or get back to your leisure time, actually, we’ll.
Let you get back to your leisure time, so um, you know just stick around for a few minutes after i sign off here and um.
You know we’ll uh, we’ll we’ll have a chat to all the talking fight fans thanks for tuning in your boy, michael r4.
Knuckle up, you heard it here.
Man fly mike marshall in the house coming through, dropping us some knowledge um, some some some influencing words for the kids.
It was great man.
Thank you again for all your time.
Much appreciated much respect, much love! Yes, thank you guys for tuning in it’s your boy, mike r4, knuckle up honey, yeah,