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EPISODE: Episode 1
On this show, we begin with an article titled “Boxing’s Slow Death Continues”, and then we morph into stories surrounding Devin Haney, and Eddie Hearn’s comments regarding Amanda Serrano, Bud Crawford, and Canelo Alvarez, among others, and the likelihood of a Bivol-Beterbiev clash in the short-term, which is compounded by recent remarks from the president of the WBC, Mauricio Sulaiman, who would block the fight due to sanctions against Russia.
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Foreign [, Music, ] hello, there boxing fans around the world thanks for joining me once again here on talk and fight for another episode of boxing news today, and we do have some interesting stories floating around the internet with respect to not only the future of boxing, But the future of fights that we fans all want to see but for some reason, won’t be able to see because they’re not going to happen um.
Let’S start off with an article that appeared on boxing news24.
com entitled boxing’s slow death continues it’s written by a chat by name Alex fezel, and here it goes following news that Paramount plus will be integrating Showtime into its streaming services later this year.
It remains uncertain whether Showtime will be continuing its boxing programming as part of the merger, while it would make sense that Paramount plus would keep boxing, as it already supports various Sports, including soccer football college and and golf among other sports.
At the same time, HBO several years ago opted to discontinue boxing after over 40 years of telecasts, which suggests the same fate for Showtime’s boxing programming could be in order.
The Optics of all this that will be boxing is fading as a sport, and the major networks are investing in other forms of entertainment and sports.
So how do we get here? What is causing this slow death so to speak? And the author continues to give his analysis.
He starts off with promoters, time and time again promoters make fights that frustrate fans beyond belief, rather than setting up logical fights promoters will let fights marinate for a year or two Force unnecessary, mandatory fights and overall just get in the way of big fights.
Fans are left watching, boring and predictable fights instead, promoters don’t seem to understand in putting on quality entertainment.
It’S a strange business model as the promoters are essentially running off the fans.
His second point is Pay-per-view, while promoters are forcing unwatchable fights they’re.
Also selling.
These sorry matches on pay-per-view.
The public is then obligated to pay sometimes over 75 dollars per fight.
What a tremendous waste of money for the fans! If you’re already making a fight expensive for the viewers, then at least you can do as match the fighters fan.
It’S actually match the fighters.
Fans actually want to see his third uh rationale.
Here too many belts having one champion at each weight class makes most sense.
It’S the only way you can really determine who is the best fighter.
Currently, there are four major boxing organizations – WBC WBO, WBA and ibf, and not to mention a bunch of sub uh boxing organizations as well, and they often have several confusing distinctions of secondary Champions as well.
Not only is it hard for casual fans to grasp why there are multiple simultaneous Champions, hardcore fans can’t keep up with the organization’s stripping some belt holders and not others.
It seems more like a free-for-all with these organizations making up Bells weight classes and arbitrary rules on an ad hoc basis.
It also goes on to describe ducking ducking is another complicated aspect of boxing today.
Fight fans will often comment.
Why doesn’t X, fight, X or x and x are both Champions? Why don’t they fight or X, chose to fight X instead of x on surface level, the Optics make it seem like nobody wants to fight each other.
It couldn’t be further from the truth Fighters want.
The fight they want to entertain the fans and put on an exciting show.
The author believes the promoters are the ones dictating who fights who and when.
Additionally, he says promoters will have their Fighters avoid fighting other boxers under different promotions.
This way it keeps the belt in-house and not going to other promoters and networks finally goes bad judges.
Another unfortunate aspect of boxing is the bad.
Judging often at the end of a fight, commentators and fans will be baffled at the judge’s scorecards.
What looked like a close fight will be complete blowout on the scorecards or what looked like a complete blowout will be a razor close decision on the scorecards.
There needs to be some transparency in judging it’s unacceptable for sport when you can’t even determine who wins or loses definitively, and that’s of course, one of the fighters gets knocked out with that said, the state of boxing is not very good.
More and more fans are choosing to watch other sports and entertainment due to all of the above issues, a quick little note to promoters.
He adds at the end of his article.
We need these fights in 2023.
Errol Spence versus Terence Crawford, algebra de biev versus Dimitri bevel, tank Davis versus Ryan, Garcia, Tyson Fury versus Alexander vusik and Canelo Alvarez versus David Benavides, which leads me to some other articles.
I was Finding on the internet today, Jack Tiernan also boxingnews24.
com, writes Devin Haney, which I just by the way mentioned.
I thought was a done deal.
Apparently, it’s not Devin Haney versus Vasa lomachenko negotiations are temporary stall due to money, and it’s hoped that the two can Bridge the impasse soon or else they’ll have to move on my Carpenter of ESPN reports that Undisputed lightweight champ Haney 29-0 was concessions from the former Three division, uh Champion will lomachenko 17-2 in terms of money to make the fight happen for May 20th.
That being the case, the 34 year old lomachenko will need to give up some of the money to Haney that he was hoping to get for the fight.
If he wants the opportunity to challenge for his four belts, just how much extra money the 24 year old ain’t he wants before he’ll agree is unknown.
If Loma refuses, Haney will either need to back down or go in another Direction, perhaps defending against Isaac, Pitbull Cruz or Shakur Stevenson instead top ranked promoter Bob Aaron would probably be overjoyed if Haney were to defend against Stevenson, because that would be an in-house fight and Allow Shakur to become the Undisputed champion in his first fight in the 135 pound division that would work out beautifully for top rank, because this is Haiti’s last fight under contract with them and he’s expected to move on rather than re-up with them.
If you’re Haiti, it might be better option to go in the direction of lomachenko unless he wants to face Pitbull Cruz, that’s a winnable fight for Haney and he can finish his contract with top rank with a sure thing: victory, uh.
With respect to the concessions Mike Carpenter says what else Bernardo money I spoke to Devin earlier today and he said he’s looking for some more concessions with lomachenko like he said, he’d give, but he wouldn’t go into details, and I can only imagine it’s money all right.
Speaking of money, Chris Williams reports that Showtime president Stephen Espinoza has revealed that a combination of Terence Crawford’s stubbornness, insistence on getting transparency for expenses and the slowness of his responses to the deal points ultimately sunk.
The negotiations for the aerospite Errol Spence Jr fight Espinoza, says, if talks do restart for the Spence Crawford Clash later this year.
There’S going to need to be some changes made on Crawford’s part for the fight to have a chance of happening.
Avanasian came to fight and I think Crawford’s fans were getting a little bit impatient.
You’Re usually seeing him break out and there’s a little bit of bold fighting out of the blue, and then it was over said Espinoza of the showtime fight tub fight Hub TV Clash uh when Terence Crawford fought athanasian earlier.
So maybe there’s a little bit of ring.
Rust there he had a decent opponent, Terrence took his time and it was an impressive result.
Well, it’s still an attractive fight, no one’s going to hold grudges and say we’re not going to deal with him just because the first time didn’t go the way we wanted.
Espinoza continued uh when asked if they plan on restarting negotiations for Errol, Spence and Terence Crawford, there are other factors now the mandatory has been ordered and it’s all all that and consider there’s assumption.
Oh well, you can wave a magic wand and make it go.
Go away to get Crawford fight.
I just don’t know if that’s the case right now, it’s not as simple as that.
So it’s a wait and see game.
Now, speaking of wait and see game, you got Eddie Hearn, going back to promoters being the number one issue in Fighters and choosing who they’re going to fight, which is not really up to them.
It’S up to the promoters.
Eddie Hearn had his weekly chat on the Zone, their boxing show and they give some updates on the upcoming uh Saturday show uh, where he’s got.
Uh uh Amanda Serrano going up against Erica Cruz and he also wants to talk about uh, Canelo Alvarez and also he puts his two cents with respect to the bevel, better BF fight, which is complicated.
He admits and not only that the Jake Paul and Tommy Fury Clash.
He says I know: we’ve got a great card on Saturday, so Amanda surround has been looking to become a dispute for a long time.
It’S Puerto Rico versus Mexico and Erica Cruz is our champion.
As well, if Amanda comes through, has a very good chance, you’re going to see Taylor versus Serana 2 in Ireland later towards the summer, so he says yeah, you know you’ve got to leave a little bit for the official announcement.
You can’t save everything these days now.
There’S also Baumgartner, who just beat Michaela Mayer she’s an incredible success story and goes Undisputed herself at 1, 30.
uh Richardson Hitchens is a great fight as well and Kiel.
Rivera Puerto Rican, Olympian Ali Sky, Nicholson, Aaron, Ponte Harley, menderos, it’s a great Card Saturday, and it’s going to be a full-up Hulu theater at the Garden.
So that’s he uh.
He then moves on to Terence Crawford and uh the comments made recently by Golden Boys, uh Oscar De La Hoya, there’s a couple of guys sort of stringing around right now and a lot of people who look to be making fights the phone phones ringing a lot More with me lately and certain Fighters are looking to make moves, looking to jump sides of the streets, so to speak, all that I think people now are bored of waiting, so long board of fighting once a year Board of fights falling through boxing has to fight Back against the YouTube World, which I don’t have a problem with, you saw on Saturday night, you already better be have really good fight.
Obviously, this weekend we’re at Hulu at the Garden Leewood against Mauricio Lara coming up.
We need to make fights out of a 50 50 mentality.
Terence Crawford wants to be in those fights, but I saw Oscar get himself in a bit of a little Patrol because he said we can do Crawford against Roca, then Crawford against Ortiz and then Crawford against Spence.
So he didn’t give his guys much chance in those fights, but I’ve done that before yeah, it’s with a laugh.
Apparently, when asked about the bevel bit of a situation, he says uh when we analyze better via versus Yardley.
I say this great effort on yards part.
Great heart, great ball student there, but I also saw was a great performance from art de Biff.
If you know boxing, what do you think he’s behind or not in that fight? He was in total control.
All the time said: Eddie Hearn.
When the shots were coming back, he was positioning his feet.
He was bringing yard into shots.
He was breaking down round by round.
It was really good performance from Berto bio he’s, a fantastic fighter.
Callum Smith is the WBC mandatory to order b2bv, with no exceptions.
Dimitri bivol has wanted that better be a fight for a long time.
You see in the build up the fights these days.
People say yeah.
We want the Undisputed fight.
Well, let’s see if they’ve got the same enemy energy now, because uh, Dimitri bival is ready to fight bitter bit of, and it’s probably one of the biggest fights in boxing, but also Canelo.
Alvarez wants to fight Dimitri bival for Undisputed at 168.
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Bill was in a good position for me.
I would like to see column Smith against better, be of probably anfield in early summer after Ramadan and Dimitri bival, perhaps against Joshua watsi in the spring, then bevel fight, Canelo 168 for Undisputed and then straight away, fight, better BF for the Undisputed or Callum Smith.
At 175, as well, there’s so much that can happen.
Listen, but Bill may want to go into an Undisputed fight with better BF we’ve got calm Smith, we’ve got Bible, we’ve got Canelo Alvarez.
This is where it really gets exciting, but we’ve got some massive fights to be made at 175.
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Hmm um, but a better bit of ambival is one of the best fights in boxing says.
Hearn.
Make no mistake.
The best one 75 pounder in the world right now is Dimitri, bival unquestionable.
I don’t care who’s unified, I’m telling you who’s the best and that’s to meet you Bill good point to argue so um where Canelo May return.
Uh is right.
Now he says Canal Alvarez plans to fight John Ryder in May and then Dimitri Bibble.
In September I spoke to Eddie reneso last night, we’re working on possible venues for those fights.
We were planning with Eddie and Saul this year and next year.
Obviously, we’ve got benavidez versus plant coming up.
Edgar Palanga is making a lot of noise.
If you can get a couple of big wins, I think that’s a good fight against Canelo Alvarez as well.
That priority is May against the mandatory John Ryder, then moving towards Dimitri bivol for Undisputed of 168.
, and then he was asked about his interest in Edgar balanga.
By the way, he’s a big name said: Hearn he’s got big support in boxing people are very quick.
He had 16 first round Knockouts and then went the distance a couple times and then apparently he’s overrated and that’s what’s happening in boxing can headline a couple of shows against high-level world rank opposition and prove these Contender for Canelo Alvarez.
You have a fantastic Mexico versus Puerto Rico fight there, but he has to establish himself as a world champion Contender against that opposition and I believe he can do it.
I’M sure we’ll speak to berlanga’s manager, Keith Connolly, our friend and the team, to see if we’re in the mix for Edgar berlanga and finally on Jake, Paul versus Tommy Fury, whether it’s actually going to happen or not.
It sounds like there’s now some money for that fight in Saudi Arabia, so I think it’ll happen.
It’S a good fight.
I mean it’s not obviously biblical games better BF and fights like that, but it’s a 50-50 fight and a lot of fun.
So why not? I think it’s different uh to the YouTube boxing.
It’S a professional boxer against a YouTube boxer.
There’S anyone near World level, it doesn’t matter.
You’Ll have a lot.
You’Ll have a lot of fight fans out there that aren’t World level but are entertaining uh.
Sorry, you have a lot of fights out there that aren’t World level but are entertaining so I think it’s a good fight, it’s going to get a lot of attention and I think that’s good for boxing on the potential for uh Serrano versus Baumgartner.
If both win on Saturday Katie Taylor, he says might have something to say about that, because I think she’ll be in attendance Saturday night, but Taylor Serrano, Taylor, baumgarner, sauna, Baumgartner, Chantal Cameron against Taylor against baumgarner, Jess mccaskill, as well with belts up at 147.
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That’S the great thing about female boxing: is these girls are rapper fights against anyone, anyone that can better their career, give them that Legacy, give them those belts.
That’S honestly, one of the most motivating things about women side of the sport is, I’m not seeing any roadblocks any egos.
Any managers and lawyers trying to stop fights and opportunities, we’re just seeing the best fight the best and that’s one of the reasons we’ve seen the growth and rise in women’s boxing.
We will all agree to that for sure.
Let’S have a quick look here and see: oh Sean Jones from boxing news, 24 chimes in, says matchroom promoter Eddie Hearn could be an obstacle to having the Dimitri, bival versus other better, be of Undisputed Clash.
Next, because he’s got other fights he wants to take plays, which he just admitted he did Hearn says he wants WBA light heavyweight, champ, Dimitri bivol to fight watsi, botsi, Joshua bawatzi next, one of his matchroom stable Fighters.
On top of that, Hearn wants ibf, WBC and WBO Champion better BF 19-0 to fight Callum Smith in his fight next uh this year, like watsi Calum, is also one of Heron’s Fighters.
So there’s no incentive to make the Bible better be of next there’s less to gain for her to make uh the better, the better, be a versus Bill fight next, because it’s just one big payday rather than a handful.
That would happen by her delaying the match until later in 2023, so the two fighters face his matchroom Fighters.
First uh fight standing in the way of Bible better, be of uh.
It’S bival versus bowati barbia versus Calum Smith and Bibble versus Canelo Alvarez.
We’Re talking about two in-house fights for Hearn if bivol faces bowensi and better be of defense against Calum next, in looking at it.
From that standpoint, it’s not surprising that Hearn isn’t showing interest in making the Bible versus better BF fight straight away.
Technically Callum who’s.
29-1 is better bf’s WBC mandatory, so he could be forced into the fight if the WBC orders it next to happen, however, better be as promoters at Top Rank could easily pay Callum to step aside.
So he could fight Bible provided Callum doesn’t ask for an absurd amount of money.
He could be paid us to step aside, allowing better babe to face Bible next in May or June.
Well, let’s see, then what uh Mauricio Suleiman the president has to say about that.
As we’ve all just discussed, Arthur butterbe wants to fight dimitriville for the Undisputed lightweight Supremacy.
Dimitri bival wants to fight Arthur bedabiv for the Undisputed light heavyweight Supremacy.
Both Bob Aram and Eddie Hearn have usually grudgingly acknowledged that they’d, let Arthur better be of fight Dimitri Bibble.
For Undisputed light, heavyweight Supremacy, but Mauricio Suleiman had honcho over WBC said no.
He said that bival had yet to approach WBC about the fight and that the sanctioning body was very clear, quote unquote about its position on Russian and Belarusian Fighters.
Thus mandatory Challenger Callum Smith is next in the docket.
There are so many layers of idiocy at play.
Here says the author um: let’s have a quick read here: who is the author, Patrick Stromberg? There are so many layers of idiocy at play here.
That’S hard to decide where to start.
So, let’s just go with the fact that Suleiman is waiting to treat better BF like a Canadian but deems bival who was born in kazistan and lives in California, as a Russian bevel is not funded, managed by or in any way associated with the Russian government.
Blocking this fight does literally nothing but lets Suleiman.
Do what he always does, which is couch, has blatantly self-serving hypocrisy in fake honorability, it’s the same crap he does when not letting women fight three minutes based on a study.
He intentionally misrepresents.
Look me in the eyes as the author and tell me you believe, for one millisecond.
The Suleiman would accept these same standards apply.
Should Bible drop to 168 and fight Canelo? There are a handful of potential outcomes of my money says.
The author is on Suleiman.
Getting a fat sanctioning fee and going well, you see billville lives in trains in California, so it’s fine.
Nobody in power will call him on it.
So there you go fight fans, all the news uh fit to print.
Yes, we’re looking forward to the the card on Saturday thanks iffy and uh, especially those Moon Fighters, love those women Fighters they’re getting better and better and, as as I said earlier, no egos at play: no managers, a squab leg, uh, no lawyers involved saying no.
So, let’s see what happens after Saturday’s victories uh thanks for joining me once again, fight fans around the world appreciate it very much.
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