Abdulaziz Kunert | Ringside Talk with David Rajuili | Talkin Fight

Joining David is professional boxer Abdul-Aziz Kunert, as they discuss the struggles he faced in his early life with addiction, gangsterism, and imprisonment, and how he overcame the struggles with boxing.

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My name is david ritchie, i’m the former wbf international super featherweight champion and former wpf all africa lightweight champion [ Music ] good evening.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of ringside talk with your host david rajuli tonight.

We’Ve got a special guest one of south africa’s hottest and uprising sons all the way from cape town.

The man has had one hell of a journey getting into his boxing we’re going to hear more of that this evening, i’d like to introduce to you um a fighter with 10 fights, one loss, just vote for the south african featherweight title abdul azizy current hi good Evening, i’m good i’m good, i’m good! Thank you for taking out some time and being on my show tonight, brother, it’s a pleasure anything for boxing, my brother, any football anything for boxing lovely brother love you, brother and yeah man.

I haven’t seen you in a while.

I know uh we were both from cape town.

I bumped into you a few times and yeah, i think, in the beginning of your career um, i do my brother um how’s about to tell the fans um who you are where you were born, where you come from uh yeah.

Let’S start there.

Yes, you know my name is abdulaziz um, i’m born in cape town from brooklyn one empire.

All the years been loving here in aguilar, in brooklyn, okay, nice, brother and uh.

Are you in brooklyn at the moment in cape town yeah at the i’m in cape moment? I’M just going back now after my last fight, you know so i’ll make him in okay, nice brother brother, how’s, about to tell us where you grew up uh.

What schools you went to! Um yeah tell us more about yourself where you uh, where you grew up, who you grew up with and all of this yeah.

So most of my life, i’ve been loving here in brooklyn.

There was times we would move out of brooklyn, but we would come back and still like move and come back and move and come in, but i’m always have been here in brooklyn yeah growing up.

I went to oyster flat junior primary and then i went to primary school and then from the uh.

I went to the grindel high school in cape town, right, yeah, okay, nice, brother, nice brother and how? How was it growing up in cape town? Now you know for the viewers that don’t know, i think cape town is uh, one of the most beautiful places uh in the world in south africa and also one of the most dangerous places in the world in south africa relating to gang violence and everything.

How was that, for you growing up in such environments? You know um, as i was growing up.

You know we all go through a phase as boys when you go through, that voice being naughty fighting and things like it, and you know a part of my life to pattern, as i was growing up getting too much into this kind of lifestyle and partying.

You know being out with friends and smoking all those kind of things and when i reached high school, so i dropped out of school and that’s where, with a real turn to on my life, because then i thought, okay, i have no.

I have no uh like proper education like a qualification in education, so i thought okay, this is the life that i’m gon na love, there’s no proper thing out there for me.

So yeah i started hanging out.

We were a lot of friends to say and we looked up to guys then yeah.

They were like our role models in and they were they were, they were gangsters to say, like they were owens.

You know we said yeah, yes, yes, yes and then we got so involved in dusting and and and from there we we made a decision.

I made a decision and thinking now you know this.

This is the life that i chose and, and there’s nothing really out there for me.

So this is the way i’m gon na love and wow yeah.

So and how do you? How old was i to catch you brother? How old were you around this time? Around that time i was like where i got initiated and things like it.

I was around about 14 going on 16.

You know oh wow, so yeah initiated means you uh beat into the games into yeah wow yeah.

You know we see these things on tv and uh.

You know to hear it from someone who’s lifted, it’s actually quite mind-blowing, um, so yeah man, so hearing what you’re saying you spent most of your teenage teenage childhood life growing up in a gang and stuff.

Now, having said that, how did being in the game get you to boxing how to do? How does this all come along now, yeah, so you know out of the bed in the and there was good about it.

You know um.

So 2012, i’ve committed the crime.

Yes, uh and and and i was on polls more present, so about close to a month, i was released out on bail and then i walked like four year on for this case that i’ve been and then i got sentenced to what 12 years, which five years Of that 12 years was suspended, so i had the so then i was impossible and then i got uh transferred to victor van still, which is called drakenstein today, yeah sorry to catch you there brother.

How old were you when you were in paulsma uh? I just done i did i just don’t, i think yeah also you went into adulthood yeah.

I just done the viewers at home that don’t know what those watching around the world paul’s war is uh.

If the guys have watched uh uh, the top prisons in the world, uh paul was rated he’s one of the top.

I think top three in the world, one of the most dangerous prisons uh in the world, actually with the most uh highest baddest criminals in the world and uh.

You went in there at 18 brother that must have been quite scary and uh, but carry on your story yeah, but you know i.

I went there with confidence, but also inside being nervous.

You know, but because i was i was a part of something so i knew where i was eating and what i had to say and what i had to do.

You know what i mean.

Okay, so all was wrong with me, but and then for the the year that i walked outside and i got present sentence and then i went to from osmo to to dragonstone.

And then i seen like the whole facility and because it’s more of like a rehabilitation in that okay, so i was, i was there on on the maximum.

I was day one for seven months and then i was approved to become a medium and then i seen there was more privileges within the time that i was serving my sentence and then there was like school rugby playing soccer and all those kind of things, and I remember one day going into the part of how did i get about boxing, so i remember one day: there’s a guy that comes around and then he he asked us like coming to each cell and asked hey.

Do anyone want to do karate or boxing, and i remember i gave my name my my name down for both activities but as a young kid i always loved, like karate, you know bruce lee and all those things yeah.

So i went for a while out for karate and then you know prison system change any time because of things that are happening and things like it.

So karate didn’t go out, yeah and then eventually boxing started going out and then at that time also i was going going school.

Also so oh nice yeah.

So i went to to school and i was attending boxing and then i would attend the boxing program and then i was like enjoying the training and things like that.

Punching the bag.

And then i remembered one day when i i went to school and the guys went out for boxing and i came early back and then they came afterwards and then they were like yo and things like that.

And then i was like hey.

I’M not gon na go to school tomorrow.

I’M gon na go there to train me because i wan na lose the spot yeah and then and then the next day we went, and then i remembered the official that was training us.

That time was uh.

Something is uh not for molly what his name, but his his surname is something like that.

He was a former or world kickboxing world champion, and then he set us down in the squadron, because there is a facility with bags and the ring and all those things.

So we were probably so two guys they thought they would choose two guys to stand up and do and spawn and then the one that was getting beaten.

They would tell that one to sit down and then i remember they chose me and then i didn’t know the schooling of boxing.

I just started eating throwing punches and then i said, hey this guy.

He got some potential in it.

The little guy sat down that i was punching and then they let the second guy come, and then i did the same thing.

The third guy came the same thing.

Buddy, the the third guy gave me a good shot and then you know you get like crossing and then then they still seem that i ain’t putting.

So i had all you know and then willing to learn the skill of boxing and then i had my first tournament about the month after that, and then i want to go yeah, oh wow, in the present against other present facilities, and you know as not to Say that these guys, also from from you know, we all have where we come from.

There was guys that have boxing experience, you know yes, yes, yes and you ended up in prison, so they would be in the yeah okay in the mix.

You know so and then from there the boxing part, but me and forever was, and then i knew this sport was for me wow.

So even like you know, sometimes you get guys growing up having role models like myself.

My role model was brian mitchell growing up watching brian mitchell on tv.

It sounds like you never had something like this.

You were involved, as you said, with the gangs and stuff like this, find yourself in prison and being in prison.

You found you know this boxing.

Just came, you know as an extramural activity – that’s amazing um, so yeah.

That was what i was gon na.

Ask you you didn’t, have anyone to look up to like uh any boxer or anything like uh.

You know at that time at that time, no, not really, but we all knew the muhammad ali is you know, and eventually then i started feeding myself the information about learning about the guys of those times.

You know, even even at that time when i was still in prison, i never knew about floyd mayweather them or manufactured until yesterday, manny pacquiao and floyd might weather them forth, and then i was and then i was like okay, then i started following up on the Guys of today and when i was privileged to to get released out on parole and then i started looking at a lot of guys at the skills and yeah and now did you ever think at that time, when you were just doing the classes that this could Be your life: this could be something that you know you make a life out of.

You make your bread and butter.

It makes it changes your life around.

Did you ever think of that? Or was it just like a a bug of a this? Is a nice sport you like to to to to to to you know just exercise you like to hit or anything? How did you see it at that time? You know at that time finding the training like thought and things like it and i enjoyed it, but where, where where i really found it is when i won that first gold medal.

Yes, when i won yeah when i won the first gold medal in yeah, and that was what the prison championships you can call it yeah, okay and then i knew boxing was for me and then you know i started dreaming having goals, whereas i want to become A professional boxer – and you know, okay, you know you you, you plan also like for the future, seeing yourself being of those kinds of today.

Yes, you know what i mean and whereas, when i was released coming from prison, i managed to get my professional license and – and that was like a call dream, come true, and whereas that came through the dream and expanded to becoming a south african champion, an international Champion you know, and about two weeks ago i was, i was close to becoming and achieving one of my dreams and goes to becoming a south african champion, but unfortunately accorded other plans, and you know yes, that’s it.

You know i won’t give up, because i know this does what keeps me disciplined and it keeps me always like my mind, is sharp and it always keeps me busy.

I wanted to go back to uh when you, you came out how you’re boxing how the pro boxing started.

Obviously you won your your gold in like the prison championships and then um.

You went out on parole.

Now you coming out in parole who helped you in terms of sparring, i mean in terms of getting a pro career on the road in terms of training in terms of setting your your your career, your part, you know who helped you with that: how how did You go about that.

You know i can say thank you to our our previous uh provincial manager, mr mickey claus.

Yes and the guy that i work.

We work together for long either documentary for the time that i’ve been in prison and all the time i’ve been released.

Warren bains he yeah that time helped me to get my license.

My professional license yeah and i remembered when i was released.

I think yes, that was the 30th of may 2017.

I remember about a month or two and then i attended uh kalakaua’s events.

It was in the in cape town in cbd, and now i didn’t have a coach at that time.

So warren took me there, so we could scout someone like who could train me at that time and then at each corner, when when the fighters came out, they did trainers also they know so as soon as i got close to any one of those trainers, then I would speak to them and then i would lost the number.

So i had like a last like 10 15 names at that time, uh yeah and then we got all to the closest one to us and don’t know you know raisin, you know reason.

Yes, i’m not raising yes yeah, so i got close to in contact with the reason, so he took me to a term in in woodstock uh with uh with the guy that runs the trump and he’s a promoters ellen [, Music ].

Yes, so i i started going there at maxim, kids, so i remember ellen said, he’s more into the amateurs, but also he’s working with the professionals, so he had an eye on me.

So he said i could attend that song because it was close to where i’m staying and then you would see me training and scoring and things like it.

So we also seen that i have the potential and he started promoting me and then september september.

I had my first profile yes and uh you’re getting your first profile.

It must have been like a big highlight.

You know from finding boxing behind bars to being out to finally stepping into this um into the ring um, not behind bars or anything.

You know, as a free man um doing what is now your your dream.

You know your passion that must have been something else.

You know, i’m i’m forever grateful that i found the sport because it always kept me in line, and you know at that time, stepping in the ring as a as a debutant.

At that time you know, and then i seen a part of everything that i believed in worked for it’s coming through you know, and here i am so i made use of that opportunity when you know, was a it’s a mic operate when you make your debut And then i did it and then i i was always consistent and always in the gym, always training always willing to learn, and yes, yeah and uh you’ve had quite a great.

I see.

You’Ve had quite a great run.

10 fights you’ve had your first loss, as you said, uh uh two weeks ago, uh run us through your ten fights.

You’Ve had what has been your your highlights.

The best fights you’ve had in your in your ten fights, uh ones, that you know you could you you say.

Yes, you know you, you really really enjoyed the fight and um yeah.

What what’s been your highest your highest moment in boxing so far with your team? Fights you’ve got, you know, um throughout the build up of my fights um as more of in the beginning.

It was building me up as a professional.

You know how it goes so we we, but i knew i was learning every time as i stepped in the ring, because i remember my two first fights or three fights a fourth or four round and then my fourth fight uh fought the eighth round because yeah So i was getting used to the rounds and i always felt that i could do more then yeah and then for me.

We, i felt more of my my breakthrough on my career way and now i’m ready to step up to anyone else.

When i fought um fusimakai in december 2019 yeah, so everyone was believed that he was going to beat me and yeah.

I was i was nervous, but i believe in myself and now i can fight you know and whatever anyone is to say.

I take that negative and alternative into positive because they don’t see what they even yeah the effort.

The efforts that us boxes go through in camps running on days, starving, making white all those things.

People don’t see that they don’t see the sacrifice behind the scenes that i only see when you’re on the lights.

You know what i mean yeah, i felt uh when a food mata, i knew okay.

I know i’m ready for anyone.

You know, as a boxer, we have to believe we ready for anyone to fight anyone and then yeah, and for that part that was my my my board.

We are stepped up.

Okay, nice, brother and uh run us through now you you had your nine fights.

We say after nine fights you were, that was the that was the tenth one.

That was the tenth one.

I lost the 11th one.

Oh there was a tenth one.

So after your ten fights, you were ranked, i think, number one featherweight in south africa yeah number two of the baby.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, number, two of the baby jake.

Now, let’s talk about you and baby jake.

That’S a fight! Many people want to see in south africa.

I know baby jake is off going to fight in uh in england.

I think at the on in the end of november, at the end of november, for the commonwealth, british title or something you and him are supposed to scrap out, do you do you see this fight ever happening uh? I know you.

Both i’ve seen i’ve trained with uh with him and he’s really got some nice fast hands.

Uh tell us about that fight, um it to be a good script to see in the future.

You know um after after that fight with makai me and baby.

We fought illumination pouts at that time, so he fought a guy from east london uh api masangguana, and then i fought uh.

That was supposedly ending up fighting for the south african title, but there was so much complications so much complications throughout yeah, so much complications throughout the whole situation of the essay title that was on all that was keeping him in our careers and all then didn’t covet.

You know, yes, boxing came back again and then you know you want to get straight.

You want.

You want to become a champion like a south african champion.

I know in his call he wants to also become a south african champion and we were ready to fight each other, and then there was the guy from eastern that i now fought about two weeks ago and then there was a whole thing going on and then I was always put aside so by which i was scheduled to fight this guy, and then i don’t know something happened with pogba check and then they put up and then something also happened with the promotion and then nothing happened.

Then so again we we waited but in the meantime still training and then again uh that by which i was scheduled, to fight this guy from islam and assange.

And then i was going to fight the winner.

So the winner was going to defend against me and then eventually i don’t know what happened to baby jack and then he didn’t.

He wasn’t fighting anymore.

So i got first an opportunity – and i don’t know if i i’ve seen uh jackie bryce commented on one of my one of my uh posts, because everyone in cape town wants to see me and baby.

This one gives me so you know i have to sit down and speak to my manager, because we’re also working on something at the moment because of our last fight of our laws by there was they were in that fight.

Now, if i can explain about what happened, yes tell us about your your essay title fight.

This is the fight, so just tell the viewers what date um.

It was two weeks ago, right, yeah, the 26th of september.

Yes, yeah! So eventually me and me and asana got the tight to fight and we prepared i prepared.

Well, you know my lots of sacrifice left my family behind going to child work, preparing for chem for the fight, so eventually it came up to the night.

The fight was tough, the fight was tough.

I could say that, but there was also there was a lot of uh.

There was a lot of uh.

How can i say from his side? He was fighting dirty because when we engaged he would he would head back me or when he’s on the attack when i slipper pants, he would hit me behind my head or something like that.

You know what i mean.

So there was a lot of things from this side, so, even while during the fight, they detected two points for me, so i i felt yes, the fight was close, but also does gives me an advance in the fight.

You know what i mean and then and then i remember when they deducted the the the last point.

The the the second point for me.

Uh, as i threw a combination, i threw a whoop, but i must and then you want to counter me and then i threw the second loop and then i hurt him with that.

Who can he jumped on me? Yes, i saw that jumped on me and he held me on the ropes and was keeping like tight.

So i thought this is my time and i’m going to knock this guy out and then, as the referee broke on it, because i went straight to him waiting for the ring to say fight put him in the neutral corner.

Put me in a neutral corner and deducted the point from him from holding then i was like so he obviously recovered at that time, but i felt like in the beginning rounds.

It was a back and forth.

If you look at around eight, he gave me some trouble there because, as he was throwing a combination he stepped in and he gave me a hit but and the blood was running in my eyes, so my vision wasn’t clear yeah.

So he was throwing on one.

But he wasn’t catching me properly and then there was times he was catching me, but nothing was hurting me and then from around nine, when mr bernie payment yeah.

So then, i could see clearly and my coach caller nathan was like we praise him now and i was praising him.

I was catching him with good punches.

I feel like from around nine and the rounds before that.

I felt that i did win the fight.

For me, even if we have to go the review of the fight, even the people said when they watched it now lost on tko.

Like i don’t know, they said like this guy asanas like he wants to get disqualified because of all the 30 things that he’s doing in the fight and and whereas in the rules meeting with this, you know you have a rules meeting after the win for the South african title, then there is explain about eight parts, celebrate eight packs and and does this stuff that was obvious to the riff’s eyes and those guys doing it when when we get in the cleanse, you see him pressing me.

What is it, but he was just getting warmed after that, because if you get taken the third point off and then you get disqualified, yeah but uh.

So after this fight what i’m sure your management team we’re going to speak about calling nathan now about that, we’ve just got a message from the viewers watching.

As i said, this bro is broadcast all around the world.

So we’ve got a viewer from the united states.

Asking would you ever want to fight in the usa from mr super, just j cole fan wants to know, would you ever does? Do you wish to fight in the united states? You know god willing.

I would want to fight anyway in united states or one of the the names on the dust, because we all know that that that that is the home of boxing around the world.

You know yeah and if who in a featherweight, would you like to mix it up from any of the top fighters on top of your head? You know uh, i to me so long, i’m prepared.

I would fight any guy.

You know you know life now.

In short, what we learned through this painting is not promised.

You know you want you want to love up to to to to who you want to be one day, so i would fight anyone.

I would fight anyone in in the featherweight very nice brother, very nice and uh yeah uh talking about your management team.

I know you are you.

As you said, you moved from johannes from cape town.

You are now based in johannesburg with your training and uh.

One of the biggest uh managers in cape ins in south africa, colin nathan.

He runs mtk africa as well how’s.

It been been under such a big stable because you got your stable mates.

Um know: hecky butler, uh, clamini you’ve got some world champions.

There.

You’Ve got wbc silver champions.

Training with you.

You’Ve got ibf champions training with you.

How has it been under that stable under uh colin nathan, uh the stable his management side and training in johannesburg? You know uh being there as as put a messen massive effect on my career as a professional athlete and as a boxer, because you know in the sports you learn every day you learn every day, especially those guys.

That’S been there at world level.

That is also on that verge of being world champions.

You learn a lot out of them and you learn also like for my coach, uh, colin nathan, being under his management.

Also, i learned a lot from him.

He’S been around.

You know, like camus, is interested in hearing his stories because i think he told me since the age of 12 he’s been in the corner with his with his father.

You know so that comes with a lot of experience and – and i know he has a good eye – technical wise he’s very good – very serious about what he do when he comes about his work and about these fighters.

So you know it’s really good to be in the environment like that, because you want to be surrounded by success.

You want to be surrounded by people that have the advice and urge to becoming world champion and dead or world champions.

You know they’re gon na place that also into you as an upcoming fighter.

You know what i mean so also learning within the sparring and things like it.

There’S there’s so much.

I’Ve learned and i’m still learning you know so long.

I’M loving, i’m learning! No! That’S! That’S that’s amazing, brother uh.

I think, even for you for your story, you know from if we start in the beginning, coming from cape town being with the gangs being in prison to like.

If the viewers don’t know you uh training with colin nathan, that is yeah south africa’s top top uh trainers me as a fighter also know not all fighters get to actually fight or get managed by colin nathan.

You know only a selected few and they even say it’s – the selected um, the selected golden few in south africa that get to fight under that banner, so yeah.

That must be actually very great for for for you, you know knowing where you’ve come from um, seeing where you are, and i’m sure it just it opens your mind, your dreams just to to to bigger fights.

That’S what my next question is going to be is um you when you see yourself now, you know you are ranked number 64 in the world rankings.

That’S also um! Congratulations on that um! It’S a great achievement.

You know um being ranked in the top 80 in the world, there’s a lot of boxes up there and uh where, where, where do you see yourself in the next five years? What kind of titles would you see one want to see yourself mix mix, get involved in so far.

You fought for your first title, the saha, the essay title you didn’t get it, i’m sure you’ll definitely be getting it in the near future.

Tell us more about the future and uh where you see yourself in the next five years, yeah so in the near future.

My like, i always said that my dream and goal is to become a south african champion, and i felt that i was.

I was rob over of my last fight, you know what i mean, whereas because if i can just go on back and that the one judge had me winning by three three rounds, one charge had him winning by two rounds and then another charge and there’s a Throw so the fight was con supposed to be contested as a draw, but in a viking title in a viking title there has to be a winner, so that gave him the extra point, but i couldn’t understand how could you give a kai if you can see My boxing compared to his he was inviting me and all those things, and then he got that taken away.

He said yeah, you know what i mean and and the two charges or from where he is.

You know what i mean.

So i i don’t know how that wrong.

You know how that role plays in in the boxing industry so but not to talk much about it, but i’m hoping god dwelling.

We get a rematch as soon as possible and if not, if it doesn’t go that way, then i i will keep going forward and looking to becoming a world champion.

You know because, seeing the seeing that i’m, that close, i know in five years time i can tell myself – i see myself as a as a as a world champion or unified champion.

You know what i mean a multiple division champion going up in the white, but through my management, caller nathan is he’s gon na guide me properly.

But i see myself already as that, but in the process you have to have the the proper guidance from your management steps.

That’S very true, brother, that’s very true and uh.

I i do a lot of research and i always watch you guys, and you know you know, uh keep up with the guys in south africa.

I see tell me, i see you’re very a man of faith, um, [, Music ].

You very you believe, a lot.

If you you in your faith, tell me a lot about uh, not a lot.

Tell me a bit about that brother, your faith and how your faith carries you through the hard times how it carries you through then, and now and in the future.

You know.

Um.

That’S one thing that that really keeps me also going is because i believe i believe i’m not perfect.

That’S one thing: don’t think, because i’m i spread the word of good, that i’m perfect and things like it, but faith plays a bigger other part of my life because you know, if i didn’t believe i wouldn’t be right here where i am today.

You know what i mean and a part of me growing up throughout loving the time with my grandparents and things like that.

That was already implemented in me as a young kid.

So even the way i went straight a bottle, mr believed, that one day, maybe something will happen, and you know like today.

Still, i still have a lot of faith in the future where, wherever i’m going, i have to have a good outlook, a positive thought, even maybe the result is not what i expected.

You know what i mean and i’m forever humble you know i haven’t.

I haven’t spoken about it throughout the interview, but the time when i was in prison um a lot of my friends like a lot of people that i knew got killed.

You know throughout this lifestyle, and one of those that were really adhering close to me was my brother.

He got shot 2014 yeah.

My brother got shot something that i couldn’t uh.

I couldn’t believe at that time because i wasn’t here, you know what i mean because uh, yes, i wasn’t there, i couldn’t attend the funeral and things like that and you know many doubts came to my mind and all those things but still had faith and and The part of everything i was still hold on to faith with anything that god, whether this, whether the the plan didn’t always win, as as they there is a saying in in in islam, there’s a sign in in our religion, where, if god didn’t like give you That part what you ask for, then you should expect something greater that is going to come like at this time with what they’re supposed, i believe, there’s something better.

You know, i believe, there’s something better yeah.

I also believe so.

My brother, i believe, there’s something better for you to come, as also with your past fight.

You know, i believe, um your story from where you you started everything you went through um to where you are today.

I just i’ve got um, i’m very excited about your career.

You also, you know, you’ve got good mentors.

You’Ve got a good team behind you uh, you can only go upwards from here.

You know and yeah, i’m sure i’m not just the only one.

A lot of this fans and south african fans are excited about your boxing um.

Do you have any fights scheduled for the next coming couple of months or anything? Have you heard anything you know uh? I i don’t know if i should say this on camera, but we we place the uh.

We want a rematch as much yeah.

We want a rematch because we believe that we believe that we won.

You know.

Even my mark out was when the fight ended, because everyone was convinced that i won the fight you know and then, when the result came, i was when, when they said the result like i was like.

Okay, these are these limiters congress.

My coach was crossed them.

Crosser than what hours i do, because no don’t worry, god got a plan, you know, let’s just look forward.

So if that doesn’t, if that doesn’t come for you, what comes in our labor image but doesn’t come, you know i will.

I will look on the press to to the bit of the future, because i know this there’s loads of opportunities out there there’s loads, that’s a very nice characteristic to have you know uh when you, as you said, you waited to hear the results, and you know You heard it didn’t go your way, but you still kept your head up.

You still kept the smile on your face.

He still kept that that belief, because in this game, not in this in the sport of boxing, you know it takes a true champion to lose to get up and to keep going and to you know never give up.

You know some fighters can go 10.

15 fights without losing, they lose a fight and it destroys them.

They cannot build themselves back from that and it can be close fights, it could be um, knockout fights and they could meet their opponents.

You know some people cannot come back from that.

I know a few people that didn’t come back from losses, but for me, a true character for a true champion is those that can come back from a loss and become greater champions than what they thought of me, and i believe that’s the party on my brother And uh before we close brother, you know you, you you’re a big inspiration to to young kids, especially from where you come from um to the park.

You’Re going, do you have any advice for young kids watching you out there for any fans watching you out there? Who are going through hard times in life or you know who have who feel like they want to give up? You know um, i’m sure you felt like you wanted to give up many times, but you pushed through that and do you have any words of wisdom or courage for the fans out there and for the young kids watching you, you know what i can say: love In your dreams and don’t be deceived by your nightmares, whereas i’m saying that whatever you want to accomplish in life, that’s in your dreams as a part of the reality, whereas if you’re going to be deceived by your nightmares by the influence of bad things, bad friends, Bad surroundings, you know, keep believing you, even if things are not going well at all, you’ll be the one in the light to make a change.

Don’T let anyone bring you down.

You know today, we feel sad.

Tomorrow is a brighter day that is going to be there for us and then we’re going to forget about it.

But this is that’s his life.

We’Re going to lose a lot we’re going to come in a lot you know and and throughout life.

Also when, when we talk about when you said when you know people didn’t come back about and when they lost their first loss, where they meet their opponent, you know, i believe, we’ve all been through life.

We all have a story.

We all have something that came from and people that are going through that we still go through this day.

As long as we love we’re gon na get this entrance just keep having faith, that’s the main thing and keep doing what you’re doing.

No matter.

You don’t see the results, keep doing that’s going to pay off, it will pay off eventually amazing brother, you know thank you for those words, i’m sure it will touch a lot of people and uh, i’m sure, even through the show tonight, you’ve gained yourself.

Some new fans, do you have any um? Where can the fans get hold of you on your facebook pages? Anything you want to say to people uh we’re gon na get hold of you.

People can follow me.

Yeah people can follow me on instagram, abdulaziz or search up the arabian night, abdulaziz arabia, night 94 on facebook, abdulaziz kyun yeah.

You can get told of me.

They follow my story where i’m going so you know i always there’s so much young guys out there that follows me and even them.

I follow them and support them because you know they’re the future they’re, the future nice brother, nice, but champ.

Thank you.

So much for for sitting down i’m sure a lot of fans and new faces, uh, listen to your story tonight got to hear from you and you’ve got yourself some new fans.

Thank you for taking this time out coming onto my show, speaking to us and uh, getting to know you more uh, i’m a fan i’ll always be a fan.

Since you know i heard about you and i always watch you guys and everything so i’ll always be watching, but uh, don’t don’t like it.

I remember the fight between you and lunga, the second one yeah i was like yo.

These guys can fight you hey.

They want you, you know we learn every day, but i really appreciated and giving me this platform for freedom of speech.

So people like can acknowledge me out there.

You know [ Music ] and they must know.

Also thank you very much brother, but yeah man.

Once again, i just want to say thank you for having me for being on the talk, show and sharing your story.

Uh we’re looking forward to seeing your fights.

I will always be checking i’ll see you guys in december.

Hopefully we can do some sparring and stuff yeah and uh yeah.

Thank you for being on the show today once again, brother, any last words for the viewers and people at home yeah.

I just want to send my love out to my parents, family friends, those who support me and everyone out there, and thank you too, for the platformer brother.

I really appreciate it and still i support you for my side.

I know whatever happened in your fight in your last fight.

You still got my support.

Please just keep going on and striving for greatness.

Thank you brother.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

My brother, thank you.

Uh hope you guys enjoyed the show, and next week we’ve got um a very, very big guest.

We’Ve got the ibo seven time cruiserweight champion kevin lorina will be live with us in studio next week.

On brings our talk, show we’ll be talking to the current ibo world champion kevin lorena, as he tells us about his move up to heavyweight division.

Thank you for your time.

Guys hope you enjoyed that show.

Thank you very much, my brother.

I will see you soon and thank you.