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Hello boxing fans around the world welcome to another episode of talking fight where we’ve got the friday night panel, all lined up not only located here in canada, but across the pond in england as well joining us from last call.
Finally, we get some toe to toe action and no conversations will be had about lennox lewis, fighting for canada and winning gold.
That’S all right! You know what you know.
What there’s been uh there’s been a lot of talk right off the hop i’ll.
Tell you right.
There’S been a lot of talk on this side of the pond about uh katie taylor, going uh toe to toe tomorrow against natasha jonas uh.
I’M not gon na start the conversation off that way, but i can’t believe how much chatter there is about that particular fight.
It just shows how far women’s boxing has come in the past year alone.
It’S come a long way anyway.
What’S on your guys minds, let’s, let’s start off with you carl, what do you think yeah? So you could argue, graham, that that says that’s gon na steal the show.
Tomorrow night you could argue, that’s a that’s the biggest fight on the card.
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I think natasha jones might fall a little bit short, but it’s gon na be a very, very good fight hold on a minute mark.
Let me have my say: i’m just agreeing i’m just agreeing go ahead.
Thank you.
Thank you, so i i just believe that natasha jones falls will be short, but it’s gon na be one hell of a fight one hell of a fight.
I believe katy taylor wins on points um, but yeah.
What a great fight, great fight! Yep! If you watch, if you watch the show earlier, i did my female friday.
I said the exact same thing: man katie taylor, points: let’s go in the distance, you know um, you know what natasha just calls a little short and she does 100 she’s gon na fall.
Short, like honestly, it’s a rematch.
You know what nine years in the making yeah.
Then you know they fought 2012.
.
Let’S be real.
2012 natasha didn’t didn’t, have anything, then you know what i mean.
She really hasn’t stepped her game up too much since then.
But you know, i think i think it’s gon na be.
I do think, though, after after watching the bridges courtney fight, i think these women are gon na.
Are gon na show us really what’s going on in the women’s in the women’s market right now, yeah i’ve been i’ve, been the man to learn a lot in terms of the best part in the best.
You know, i think, there’s not too much political interference in the women’s game at the minute yeah exactly exactly this, this all the the women don’t give a [ __ ] about the politics, man and – and it just goes to show you – you know what eddie eddie Here and said it best, man, champions fight champions and when you put those guys together and you get those champions to fight champions, it makes for a hell of a fight and an excellent, exciting show and honestly, yes, katie taylor.
They are they’re going to steal the throughout the day in the uk dell boy threatening to walk off the show, because he’s had some ring walk first, have you heard that have we cut it up? I haven’t heard that yet yep you’ll be hearing it shortly.
You’Ll be hearing it shortly.
It was a coin toss.
There’S a coin toss who comes in first and who comes last.
Is the big deal um, you know like know what, like it’s kind of it’s it’s it’s kind of a it’s, a [, __ ], move man.
If he does that straight up, if there’s a fight, he doesn’t get paid, so i can’t see him walking away.
No exactly exactly.
You know what it’s not like these! It’S not like these guys.
You know what was the last time you stepped in the ring like uh just horrified.
What was it alexander, music? It was his last point or something yeah, never supposedly guys in the contract.
Eddie uh says he’ll get paid as long as he’s coming on weight, so that does change the ball game a little bit by all the cards you stipulated.
I know never wages no particular weight, but i was going to say you don’t need to make weights or that’s that way.
What idea would as long as you’re successful at the way, whatever that may mean in legal jargon, you will get paid [, Music ].
You know honestly, honestly at this at this point.
Maybe it’s maybe let’s be running if he walks just because he doesn’t get to come out, that’s whatever we, whatever he wants, let’s be real man.
It’S the katie taylor card nobody’s going to give a [ __ ] right.
You want to act like a baby to you know.
No, i don’t think i don’t think paul has got any heart or desire left.
He stepped up against anyone decent.
He got found out.
So you’re thinking parker just needs a paycheck uh.
I just i just don’t.
I think this this the idea that he moved to ireland be trained by andy lee who’s, a decent trainer.
By the way it’s a smaller screen.
I think he’s got out in new zealand for other reasons.
I don’t, i think, in his last fate against junior for sure really what level and where maine parker was at.
I think he put parker in with somebody.
Who’S got chazora just doesn’t care in that ring, but he comes forward.
He falls a lot of punches yeah.
I don’t think parker’s got a strong enough job to keep him at b and he doesn’t have power.
Just watch you guys so vival is on that fight.
As well, do you think that got a chance? What do you think yeah johnny go first, yeah honestly, i i like i like ball um, you know what honestly, i think he’s just gon na come in and run house man uh.
You know last last couple times i watched him, you know he’s he just he he does.
He has his like.
You know he’s got this game plan and he follows it so well, and you know he just you know he destroys everything he hits man and – and you know his record speaks for itself.
Was he 17-0 going for he’s? Undefeated yeah he’s not defeated, but, like i pro i profiled him on the show a couple months back and uh, we talked about him and honestly, i’m excited to see him get in the ring man.
I’Ve been waiting to see him, you know get in there and do his thing again and i think he’s just going to thinking yeah yeah yeah, i think so wow.
I think it’s going to be a good fight man.
You know what i’m supportive i’m behind him and then i think he’s gon na do well there.
So bible’s been out of the ring for a while, so there’ll be a bit of ring was ringing from us, but you know he walks through this guy.
He walks for shouldn’t be in the same ring as him.
No, no, you know what’s happening with the rankings.
That’S another example of the rankings just being crazy, but people are sure he’s classical and biblical will get him out early.
I think he’s hating rachel paul’s bible.
It’S completely problems, but i think once he figures that out you’ll get rid of him yeah yeah.
Definitely but he’s like he’s like he’s like putting lucian beauty in the coffin [ Laughter ] did: did you see? Do you see how you walked in there? It’S a nice map.
You know what i’m looking forward to seeing on that card as well.
Is uh ricky, hatton’s kid yeah, it wasn’t a great first performance was it you know yeah um, i’m hoping it settles down a little bit in the second performance.
I think you will um and just don’t use that don’t use that nervous energy, don’t use it all up on the ring wall, but it’s got a lot of expectation on them.
Young shoulders.
That’S all.
I would say it’s a big aim to carry, especially in manchester big, nearly curry.
Anyway.
I think um i’ve said it before.
If i was if i was managing campbell – and i wouldn’t have him on these big big shows because you’re just gon na get that nervous energy, you got ta, remember guys he never had an amateur career.
No, so all this is all very new to him.
He’S in other guides or before he’s lost four fighters, a perfect opponent for him, and hopefully he just you just need to relax in the ring, and you also need to realize that this is a man’s sport.
No, i didn’t know, i don’t know that.
Other kid looked nervous nervous as great um.
He just looked like he didn’t want to be there, so that that you know, i think, can we let him walk through him tomorrow? Well, hopefully he does gives camel a bit of confidence, but i think campbell needs to realize.
I think he realized, after his last fight how he was punting after an interview, i’ve never seen the devil and hunters be out of breath like that um.
I think he realizes he’s in a grown man and his men are so much physically stronger, even the journeyman than the little amateurs he was boxing.
Congratulations, so, graham, let me ask you a question and you might what do you? What do you guys think in eubank jr? That’S, i was gon na.
I was just gon na.
Ask you guys yeah.
We were talking about him earlier um, you know what honestly i don’t like does more does morrison.
Take him to ten rounds.
Does morrison win like i don’t know man, that’s a tough one for me now um i like eubank jr, but i don’t know man for this one.
I think that i think this is you know.
I think this is a pretty evenly matched up fight.
To be honest, i think you’ve got split.
I think you’ve got splinters come on, give it give it.
Okay, [ Laughter ].
Ah i mean for me: morrison’s tailor made for eubank style um.
I think morrison just walked forward and i think eubank his best assets.
Apart from his volume punching on his uppercuts – and i think that’s going to be the key for him, so i think it stops him yeah.
You know, you know what i think.
Yeah he’s got that good inside you know movement yeah, he’s great he’s great on the inside, but that’s all he can do really four water punches on the inside, but um.
I think the thing with eubank is: he has a habit of fighting these fighters that come forward like when he fought yield room that makes him look special, makes him look spectacular, so people over exaggerate him.
You put him in with a half-beaten boxer.
He goes missing for 12 rounds.
Like george cross, i mean where was he i mean? I didn’t see him in the ring.
Did you yeah? You know whoever whoever made that management? It was a good match.
Honestly, i think i think those two guys together are gon na make it i think, it’ll make for an exciting fight, yeah cause.
I think morrison will go at it because morrison’s in morrison’s at risk of becoming uh what we call a journeyman.
You know what you guys might call a gay keeper yeah and he’s at risk of becoming that because of his losses and who he’s lost too, you know he’s not a really low opposition, so i think if he loses the eubank, that’s that’s pretty much it for Him he becomes a stepping stone, that’s exactly it! You you don’t want to be.
You don’t want to be in the b side of the boxing game.
You know what you’re not stopping exactly right, like you’re you’re here you’re coming in you’re fighting in front of nobody and fighting nobodies, and you know you always got that that chance of being knocked out by a nobody and what does that? Do it just tumbles you even further right, like even even as a b-side boxer and you and you’re gon na be that gatekeeper? You still got ta perform man, you still got ta put on a good toe and you know i don’t.
I don’t think i i think that if he ends up in that position, that’s what’s gon na happen.
Man he’ll he’ll become that gatekeeper, i’ll talk to you about junior, go in your in your opinion, mike into world level.
I don’t think so either i don’t.
I don’t think i don’t think he has the right tools in his repertoire to be able to stand with people on the world stage.
Man yeah actually right, like yeah.
No, no he’s got no footwork he’s got no head movements, he’s got no job, i mean he’s, got he’s, got he’s, got the basics and nothing else.
Does the basics really really well and uh? You know, that’s it’s not that’s not enough! For world stage man, world class, you know yeah yeah.
So what else before i jump on something else, are they allowing fans into the uh arena in manchester? No, no, no fans! Not yet did you did you guys see last week the fans down in texas, you got full fans yeah, it’s just one of those states are pretty much.
The coronavis didn’t exist up there, so they they pretty much.
Let the fans come on that corona.
What mike’s on i’m telling you now that’s what mike calls the vaccine yeah it’s.
What i was saying is, is, i can’t believe, all the cards that are on this weekend like around the world like oh there’s, many many like, i couldn’t believe it like.
I i stopped taking notes, there’s so many fights going on in mexico, [, Music ].
What mate usually is like may is the month that kicks off.
Like all these amazing events, every weekend, like maze, maze of the month may’s the month, where all the big fights start, all the good things happen.
You know where everybody’s got their, that that that splinter out of their ass and they’re probably doing some work, especially you know that last one was in there.
Pretty tight man come on mark.
This is a family show come on.
No, no, listen! Listen! It’S bedtime over! Where you guys are so the kid you shouldn’t be watching [ Laughter, ], yeah, there’s, there’s some big cards.
Man all over the world.
I’Ve been checking them out.
Man there’s a couple.
There’S a couple in argentina: we’ve got some in germany.
We’Ve got some in the philippines.
There’S a ton in mexico uh.
You know it’s just everywhere, but the problem is that so much is not televised.
Man or you know, broadcasted or even streamed.
It’S hard man.
It’S it’s hard to see them all.
I wish i couldn’t see them all.
Definitely you know like we, we love documents and you know we got our sunday show where we try to find the best around the world.
So far so far we’re doing well but um.
Now there’s so many documents we don’t get to see like last week, i was telegram there was an entire card where all eight fights ended in knockouts.
Every single fight on the card ended in a knockout like first and second round uh that was over in germany.
Right, like the germans, i guess they know what they’re doing over there.
Man they’re eating their wheaties, because you know you get in a car and you’re expecting to see you know a bunch of fights, go the distance you’re in and out in 45 minutes.
You’Ve seen eight fights you’re like what the hell is, this yeah yeah yeah.
You know what we were interviewing, someone a while back, and he said that the the german fighting scene now has been completely changed because of the influx of uh former uh eastern european immigrants into germany.
Now, who brought a whole new style of fighting uh into the german scene – and they said – that’s really changed uh.
You know boxing in germany.
You know completely changed it.
You’Ve got to remember that’s where people like golovkin and klitschko sort of like started their their careers.
Um germany got some decent promoters as well and in germany, where the home fight.
You know if you’re fighting somebody from germany in germany, you would have to you know you have to get a knockout just to get a job yeah a bit like that when you’re in canada a bit like when you’re in canada, you know you’ve got to knock The guy out, or you ain’t, getting a decision, you mean you mean in canada, if like we can actually get a fight going on mike.
There is this weekend out in british columbia.
I know there is.
There is one in bc.
Yes, that’s true, uh, we’ll we’ll see we’ll see if there’s any knockouts there i mean it’s like i’m, not kidding guys, five thousand, it’s closer to england than to british columbia.
From where we are.
I mean i’m.
I am intrigued by andy louise at the weekend, that’d be that’ll, be good, viewing see what which is to see what he’s like at the weekend, because he’s a he’s, a dangerous cat that guy intakes ruiz is a dangerous cat.
Man, that’s for sure and joyce well, joyce joshua had one fight against dubois really started making fights over there.
I’M just thinking.
Yeah he’s got a good job, but i’ve seen enough from ruiz to just to make me think he can negate that job.
Yeah.
You tell me who choices for who’s got the movement they’re incredible.
I’M just saying i i like, i think i think see.
Joyce for me would beat somebody like you, sick yeah doesn’t have the physicality.
Louise has got that physicality.
I think one of ruiz’s problems was his weight, was holding him back and he just wasn’t dedicated.
He seems to import really like now.
He just needs to be consistent playing devil’s advocate right.
You know i don’t like arguing with you as you know, but as he got the physicality everywhere, you know he’s lost all that timber.
Sorry for our canadian friends.
That means wait now, yeah yeah, i think you will.
I think you will um.
I think you weren’t coming from that yeah yeah yeah, he is, i think, he’ll be in and out i mean he’s lost two stone and i think at heavy weight.
It’S different from your other, your smaller weights, when you’re losing weight and you lose that strength yeah.
I think you can still retain your strength and i think stomach can be fit see as a heavy weight as a heavy weight.
It takes a lot for you to lose your strength over the years training.
It takes a lot for you to lose your strength, but with the weight you do lose, you gain speed, yeah exactly, and you already have a lot of speed anyway and and i’ll tell you when yeah, when you mix speed with power, you know, and you speed Up that power, that power becomes more power right harder.
You hit faster, it’s gon na make it, but you know what like releasing like: that fight.
They’Ve been circling each other for years.
Man like that, this fight has been, you know, talked about for a while.
Are we always? I was just saying like mike carl ariola’s got nothing left, i mean even ariola when he first came on the scene about 14 15 years ago.
I don’t think that version of ariola stands up against ruiz.
Now he’s been through a war.
You know like he’s: he’s got what 40 45 46 or 47 fights under his belt he’s: 38 six and one with 33 knockouts man he’s.
You know he’s at the end of a long career that spans 17 years.
But yes, yes, he does don’t fool yourself does remain one of the most dangerous heavyweights in sport.
Yes, but are we seeing? Are we seeing um? Are we seeing him in the ring where we know he shouldn’t be like you know where it’s where it’s like? Hey man, i saw that guy in his prime and he was awesome.
Is it gon na be that kind of fight? You know what i mean like.
Are we gon na sit there watch him get in the ring, watch this guy who’s very, very dangerous.
At one point in his life, you know huge 17-year career.
Are we gon na get? Are we gon na get the washed up? Are we gon na get something actually good like? Are we gon na get a guy, that’s literally at the end of his line, and we know that he shouldn’t even take this fight.
That’S that’s what i think disappointing.
So one question one quick one question for you guys: sorry, graham: where did you? Where did you take andy ruiz next, then so you’re always matchmakers mike where’d, you take him, it depends who wins the tyson fury fight exactly you know what like this, this this, the fury joshua fight literally, is, is backing up all the matchmaking in the heavyweight division.
This fight needs to happen fast, like it’s just got to get underway man.
So when the dream is over here, his room is over it’s going to fall flat.
You know why has it not been announced guys, you know it’s worried, isn’t it yeah? You know there’s a story’s coming out from bob abraham.
This story is coming out from eddie earned stories coming out from frank while we’re not even match so there’s something that i’m independently believe.
You know eddie hunts, telling you it’s pretty much done bob abraham and frank warren are telling you well it’s not and we’re probably looking at wilder, and it’s just for me.
It’S absolutely it’s almost as bad as me were pacquiao.
Did you ask me like? Did it happen? Does the fight happen? You know what um? Yes, yes or no? Yes, yeah! You think he knows this fight has to happen, that’s and they all know it you’ll feel that nothing has to happen.
Does it no, it does it does, and this is why this is why it has to happen.
Okay, your man, lennox lewis, okay and i said you’re, a man you’re, a man you’re, a man who who temporarily fought as a canadian because he has canadian roots.
Okay, we’ll leave it at that, we’ll leave it in that last undisputed heavyweight champion of the world correct 2003.
.
I can see it now with the union jack behind him.
Yeah come on 2004.
We have a new belt, a new sanction belt right.
We make the four majors there’s never been an undisputed heavyweight in the four belt era.
Ever this fight has to happen because it literally is going to reignite the heavyweight division that i think has fallen off in the last 20 years.
But the only thing i would say to that mike is the second.
So let’s say you sign up for a two-fight deal, which seems it seems likely.
Doesn’T it yeah the second fight? You can actually relinquish them and belts anyway, because the governing bodies could insist on managers.
It just aren’t going to happen, and that’s my people in line for those belts.
Listen if they sign a two-fight deal by the time they get to the second fight.
It’S not going to be an undisputed match man, because some of those guys are somebody else, yeah, yeah yeah, as long as the first fight is for all the marbles yeah, i’m not really bothered how many belts are at stake in the second fight.
Okay, what needs to happen for the second fight? Is people like using joyce need to get on with their little fights? Yeah ruiz wilder need to fight for the other belts yeah, and then you can see people coming through.
You know everyone’s talking about this recreation.
Uh.
Phillip hergovich, you need to see what he’s made of um.
You know it’s not, but you know give the chance to fight for a belt like to michael hunter, give him a chance to fight for a belt.
So as long as the first fight for all the marbles, i’m pretty sure that the the second fight – that’s just for legacy for bragging rights and that’ll, be wembley that’ll, be wembley that second fight.
You know what it probably would be.
I couldn’t see the second fight being anywhere else.
Why like? Why would you bring it [ Laughter, ] the heritage he’ll be he’ll, be getting on that plane straight away to be fair, yeah, [, Music ].
You got a forest.
I thought you’re gon na say we irish i’m over here.
What well you’ve got a damn good canadian accent for an irishman, martin i’ll leave that one there.
You know, you know what uh lennox lewis has a canadian accent too.
Doesn’T he no? No? No.
He speaks the queen’s english, my man, he speaks english.
Whatever happened to his london fighting league or london boxing week, whatever the hell well, we’re always going to get there tonight.
Won’T we so, let’s bottom this out, while we’re here, then guys.
Last time i looked, his birthplace was west sandwich last time i not want toronto or you know london, so i don’t really get.
I don’t really get where you’re claiming, let’s lose from, i mean ray come on help me out here.
Fella, you just hit the knee right on the head.
To be fair, i mean you know what happened in the past in the olympics is whatever, but the guy is british.
She represented britain, it’s like it’s like me and you’ve been to toronto for a two-week holiday and all of a sudden you’re calling me canadian, you know you know, is [ Laughter ].
His vacation was so long.
He decided to fight for canada for a medal.
You know all jokingly sign i might be.
I might be uh not welcome to canada after this statement, but i’m going to go there anyway.
Um he might have felt [ __ ] on your unboxing heritage me for look.
Look this! This country’s opened your arms up tomorrow.
I should at least give him a gold medal before i vacate back to the copper in the boxes.
So i i almost see it’s a good.
It was a good in the golden era of heavyweights, though we had a fellow by the name of george chavallo and uh.
You know he was a damn good boxer as well, and a damn good man but um london, london, london, on london, ontario, london ontario.
For this is one sure don’t think this is what it’s all about, guys, the banter into it.
You know, and you know, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, it’s what it’s all about.
Isn’T it yeah? What do you? What do you? What do you guys think of fedora and the uh reynolds fight yeah? I like ramos – i i think, that’s good.
That’S gon na be a toast to war that one isn’t it that’s something right.
It’S gon na be literally.
I think that is gon na be definitely yeah.
I’M not too sure.
If we’re going to be able to get that on the uk, but um i’ll have to find.
Where does the world you? I will dm you the site to use that i use and we’ll keep it under wraps because we don’t want it to ever get shot.
Oh great yeah you’ll have to edit up here, but yeah.
It’S killing your channel.
Okay, graham, you need to get your head on that [, Music ] trust me go on there go on there.
You click boxing it’ll, redirect it’s going to redirect you a few times just keep close, keep closing the redirect and click on it again and eventually you’ll get before you know it right right before you know it there’ll be a picture.
It’S only right that we talk about billy, joe saunders next versus canelo, because you know the likelihood that we’re on next week after this exchange remote i’ve been grabbing the kick me and made both off in a minute.
I do love them.
So what’s your fault? I mean let’s, let’s start with the with the judges situation.
You know, billy joe is not happy.
Is that because he was told one judge would be from the uk, but by all the kinds.
The boxing commission in texas does not allow a uk judge to come in and officiate a world championship out, so i think billy joe feels shafted.
I don’t know if that’s a trans atlantic term, but i think he feels shafted um by mr earn a little bit and he didn’t like the way eddie earned going over to see canelo and it’s very pali pala.
So not that i’m taking over your show, graham, but let’s start with mike, come on mike, give it your prediction and let’s do it – i just sit back and relax while mike talks go ahead.
Yeah it’ll be about 2, am in uk by the time it’s finished.
So, let’s do it! That’S right! Trust me! You guys! I like i like canelo me too.
I think canelo is going to take it.
I don’t think it’s going the distance, i don’t see going past.
I don’t see it going past six.
I think it’s gon na be an awesome.
I think it’s gon na be an awesome first two rounds.
I think i think saunders gon na is really gon na try and bring it.
I think i think saunders is gon na try and edit quick is what i think.
I don’t think he’s gon na try and stand in there and you know, be a tactician with canelo and and play that game with canelo’s defense, because let’s be real man when canelo really gets into the swing of things.
He’S unhidden he’s unhittable, like he wins limbo contest every time he’s in the ring.
You know you and i don’t think saunders is ready to play that game and everybody that tries to play that game.
It just ends in in destruction and devastation.
So i think saunders is going to try to bring it to a heart in the first couple of rounds, and then i think it’s just gon na you know.
Canelo is gon na warm up, find his groove and honestly, it’s just gon na, be it’s it’s gon na be a clinic man he’s just gon na put it on, and i think he’s gon na put him away before.
The sixth is that’s my prediction, for it.
Just make sure it’s recorded, it is yeah.
Now mike, i would agree, i think um it does.
You know you’ve heard people say: oh, it needs to be at middleweight.
Doesn’T matter what way it is, you can’t hit what you can’t see and then billy jordan doesn’t have anywhere near enough power not to make somebody like canelo.
Think twice.
Can i was too smart in that ring.
I think he’ll second guess everything that billy joel does and he’ll do it well, so every time he steps his lead foot out, canelo would have already put his lead foot there hit him and he’ll be on his bike.
Um.
You leave billy joel’s, chasing shadows and i think he’ll end up stopping him with a body shot, probably lit there about around seven or something i’m going later.
I think uh look at each other for a good few rounds.
I think billy joe’s gon na be quite elusive um, so i’m go.
I think billy joe hangs in there until i’m going nine or ten.
I don’t sell the defense, like my so i’m going to give you an actual round.
I think it’ll probably be about i’m gon na go nine then mike and i hope that’s recorded round.
Nine canelo will stop billy joe yeah.
I mean it’s not going past the six, so it doesn’t matter but you’ve been you’ve been wrong in every other prediction.
So i’ll tell you that i’ve been just been pinching: uk salt, [, Laughter ], so we’re gon na sit back.
I’M gon na sit back and i’m gon na be drinking my tea with my pinky up, i [ Music, ], [, Music, ], yeah, yeah and guess what we didn’t.
Let yin did work so no that i’m still in the rookie stages of drinking.
So i haven’t pickled myself yet, so that’s why my citizenship hasn’t showed up.
You have to move up a stone even rained waiting in la lo jesus you’ve called yourself an irishman tonight.
So you know the artists are well known for liking.
The typical guinness, oh yeah and you were born in england.
Would you not go home yep? Thank you, sir.
So we’re loyal to them.
Fellow, that’s what i’m saying come on! Hey man, i’m twisting on all this.
Is this i’m kind of like switzerland and all of this, the only good thing for them is their cheese, chocolate watches.
So where were you born in lancaster, then, okay, what town uh? I was born in the full wood pre forward, infirmary, which is in preston preston.
So don’t make your preston north end fan then just talk about absolutely never mind move along quickly: [, Music ].
You know what’s funny uh when i, when i went back there a couple years ago, uh after my parents had passed away.
I went to a p e game and they were it’s okay and uh.
I couldn’t believe their their.
Their nickname was the lilly white.
I thought yeah yeah [ __ ], weird name for the lilly whites.
What the hell kind of name is that i’ve been to presidents.
I went to watch liverpool playing the pre-season friends.
We’Ve got the fa museum at preston.
Haven’T there the that’s your museum, the football association so yeah? So you know it’s it’s quite a nice little ground.
Um, i can’t get out of lancaster quick enough.
I won’t lie, but you know the ground is nice yeah? So so, and i understand you guys have been over to the uk having you um, you meant you.
You christian mentions that you’ve been.
You think you’ve been to nottingham is that right, graham you’ve been to nottingham yeah.
We, we spent uh a lot of time, um touring uh.
Well, let’s see after my after, as i said after my parents passed away, i took my my family there once and i took uh jay christian and my son eric.
I was listening producing right now on what we call a pub and lodge tour.
So we went to belfast glasgow edinburgh down through carlisle and back into preston manchester.
Then we went over to nottingham to see a friend i used to work in bermuda and one of my good friends, helen uh lives in nottingham and uh.
The problem is is that we had nothing to do during the day in nottingham yeah.
What what do four young men do during the day when they’ve got nothing to do? Well, we had a pint and then another pint and before you know it had a few stones worth of pints and uh.
By the time we met helen.
I can’t remember her friend’s name like you know, it’s like hello, yeah, what you saying you did canada on that trip.
That’S what you’re saying aren’t you, you know what not nottingham had one of my favorites christian would remember the name of this bob, not me, but they had one of my favorite pubs in england in nottingham, because this place played punk, punk and sky music.
All night long – and i can’t remember the name of it – was a great little pub and i think they even served kill kenny my favorite beer um.
I had a great time there they had to drag me out of there, like.
I somehow found my way back there actually uh eric saying.
I think it was the duck.
No eric you’ve said the duck to me before and that doesn’t ring your bell fell off to be honest with you and i’d know it because um i might vacate.
I might i might have been around a few pubs in nottingham, allegedly yeah.
The question would know the world’s going to bed.
I can talk honestly school testing question for christian when he’s on the panel next week uh.
What was that pub? We went to you, remember yeah, would you know if i said it would you know if i said it, graham so pendulums yeah, you know, you know what happened in that pub.
The the nottingham hockey team had a game that night and they finished so so so the place got filled with like hockey fans.
So here are a couple of canadian guys at the bar drinking away and next thing you know all these hockey fans come in and we’re so i’m listening to punk and ska music having pints talking hockey like holy [, __ ] anyway.
Sorry, we’re sorry we’re we’re digressing from boxing.
You must get our name to me, though you must get the name to me.
Well, like i said, i think, christian’s the only one who can remember he’s quite interested in how he didn’t invite michael on, but that’s for another [ Laughter, ] show and ireland.
That trip was just an amazing trip.
It really was.
We met so many great people, uh anywhere we went, we just just talked and talked and talked we’re friendly button shot we’re going to friendly bunch.
You know we are and uh no, no! No! No! No! We are that’s what i meant.
We are [ Laughter ].
It’S easy to be friendly when you’re half pissed all the time right right.
Weird, there’s outrageous comments right! It’S probably true, though i mean these guys are probably thinking going back to the boxing about the ricky hansa come over, none of them for the wba world middleweight championship um.
I don’t know if you guys know this.
One uh laura was actually the longest reigning 154 pound world champ before he lost a tough split decision that jared heard uh in the title title unification match in 2018.
he’s stepping back in the ring.
That’S i think this can make for an exciting fight.
Man um.
I don’t know if you guys know these guys, yeah, we just profiled jared hurt the other day: oh good, yeah yeah.
He he took he took.
He took laura’s belt back in 2018.
You know off of off of the longest reigning 154 pound world champ.
So you know, and now he’s stepping back in the ring this weekend.
Man it’s gon na, be, i think it’s gon na be nice to fight man, which card is that it’s actually the laura lametta card on uh.
You can check it.
You can check it out on the uh on uh.
Was it boxing news 24? They got, they got it up there.
It’S gon na be an excellent, though you know.
Well i really i rated jared hurst.
I mean i always thought that he was winning his fight.
Just because he was here is she a size? He was bigger than everybody else at that weight, oh yeah and then he’s got a big one yeah he got beaten and then he’s come back again, so um.
But this this kid, this kid that you’re on about um yeah, obviously 154’s, never really been a strong division.
No my eyes! Oh it’s always it’s not! It’S been as strong as what it used to be when you had the likes of um.
You know uh due to the fighters that have been there in the past, you trinidad’s margaritos and then cuddle got in there.
You know um, but having said that, it’s a good record and obviously this fight will tell us what what he’s got left yeah.
Definitely definitely that’s that’s what i want to see right, like you know, yeah you get these guys who you know like laura yeah, okay, so he lost in 2018.
He bounced back great though you know uh, you know the fight, though the fight, though it was a split decision with jared hurd and honestly in that unification match it went it went down as as the fight of the year and returned from that fight and battled The current 154 pound world champ, which is uh brian castano, and they had an exciting fight that came to another draw, but it didn’t go down his way.
So now laura has since scored back-to-back triumphs with the knockout over uh, ramon alvarez and yes, capture his current world title and the decision over greg vendetti in august, and you know, he’s he’s faced a slew of these top 154 pounders in the sport, including because the Alvarez was controversial, i mean i thought, alvarez beaten, but but a lot of people thought that laura beat him yeah.
You know so i mean.
How did you see you? You thought laura beaten? No, i thought, can i be here yeah.
I thought canelo beat him yeah, but a lot of people think you could you know what in in in see? This is what this is.
Why i’m such a fan of not leaving in the judge’s hands man, because when it’s that close, you know you’re always going to have [ __ ] talking coming from each side? Oh, you didn’t really beat me all well.
This round was this: this round was out, you know what not hello and, let’s not worry about it.
You know what don’t leave in the judge’s hands, knock these idiots out and then nobody can say anything, but it’s so excited to see laura coming back in the ring.
You know he’s bounced back after that.
You know being the longest reigning champ of 154 and you know what we’re gon na get a chance to see if, if he still can do it, you know so, graham, can i take a couple of minutes just to see what we’ve got coming up on? That spell boxing over the next few days is that, okay with you absolutely let her fly brilliant, so um ray.
Obviously on sunday in the uk, we’ve got a couple of interviews going off.
I mean we’re carrying the house, it’s like yeah yeah um.
So we got an ex uh jolly just to give you about kieran ray.
Did you know more about his career than me? Don’T you fellas kieran was um.
He was a professional boxer um.
He had his career curtailed quite early on.
He suffered a a brain injury.
Um, since since since then he was thinking he was unbeaten at the time of um that that happened.
Obviously he lost in the ring, and he just he just never recovered.
He so he’s ended up becoming a trainer.
He’S got his own gym and he’s going from strength to strength.
He really is doing well as a trainer he’s starting to become one of these kind of up-and-coming trainers.
People who go to learn the trade and eventually move on to some someone else, but it’s given him experience plus he’s got his own gym, he’s doing a bit of seconds work in people’s corners, um he’s a young guy as well.
He’S he’s only been his mid-thirties because, like i said, his career ended quite early on, so he’s got got a lot of time.
So he’s a major cook for the show um.
So we’re looking forward to having him on and then we’ve got.
We’Ve got gargames coming back on for a part two, i don’t know if your viewers will be aware, carl griezmann, he coaches, david davidson and the light you know a lot of it is that we will get david avenue on the channel as well.
Um so, and we’ve also got lee ward coming under a part, two commonwealth champion, so we’ve got quite a few things bubbling away on that spellboxing um.
So what what i will do mike is obviously me and you link up quite a lot on facebook, i’ll be letting you have links to the videos and then you can do what you want to do with them.
You know you know me, i don’t sleep yeah, yeah yeah, but but i think it’s wonderful when i wish you guys a good morning on your way to work right.
Yeah, yeah, you’ve not even been to bed normally, but what i think you guys are doing.
I think it’s really good to settle.
You guys have got you know.
Obviously i i jump onto christian’s show um.
I might not always agree what christian says i think meaning might have to have a bit about exchange at some point.
Um, especially around his views on you, can how much alcohol intake we take, but he’s a good guy um i’d like to get near the deal on.
One of these shows at some point because it’s safe to say that i don’t really agree with what he’s saying.
As well so graeme, if you make that up and it’ll be gold to get him on um, but your platform that you guys have got over there you’ve obviously worked very hard at what you’re doing um.
I think it’s a very professional settle, so i just want to say from the uk.
Congratulations i think it’s a really good setup.
Yeah! Thank you for the time on the show, because i’m much appreciated you know, we’ve got this um.
Let’S call it a relationship of some kind, i’m not quite sure how it looks, but it works guys, don’t it.
You know, we have frank exchanges and we all agree with it.
You know we comes on.
We we give them like.
What’S going on in the uk, making mike and core gives us what’s going on over stateside and i’ve said jokingly, you know, makes our sort of like state correspondent.
No, i’m gon na help us yeah yeah.
He keeps going to look there and, and vice versa, you know what i mean and obviously, with his prospect, show he’s got his female fighters, but he’s got his prospects as well and that kind of stuff so yeah it’s going to be good for us guys to Feed off each other’s shores, you know – and it’s it’s i mean it’s right – you’ve jumped on with us: it’s not a bad crack.
Is it when you jump on me? I love it.
My interview ran later and then we had a nice little chat after the interview was over, which uh yeah, which was we’ve got.
We’Ve got jalen jalen walker coming back uh to do an interview the week before his uh next fight and uh the week after.
So we can do a post, you know pre and posting um, i think in the next week, or so we’re actually going to get his father on for an interview to talk about um him being a boxer, be like he was a boxer on the b side.
Um, so we’re gon na talk to him about the b side of boxing um.
What it’s like to raise a kid that is now entered into the pros and you know like you – can speak to these young guys in the game.
Yeah.
You know 100 200 fights under their belt as an amateur and you asked them, you know what was it like? What was this? What was that? Let’S hear it from the parent side? What did what did his father have to sacrifice to get those 200 wins under the show? You know what kind of money did it cost like? Well, yeah you have to make to fly around the world.
Yeah yeah, you guys the guy’s a trainer.
Now you know his son’s his son’s uh.
You know a pro really making headlines right now, as he’s climbing, these ranks uh with these big fights, and you know what it’s gon na be exciting to get his father on that’s gon na be excellent man.
I can’t wait for that yeah i saw the one that you did on there brandon lee as well um yeah, because he’s a kid i’ve been keeping a close eye on um um.
You know in my head kind of i kind of play matchmaker.
You know when you do that thing in the headway.
You see a prospect and you think i wonder this.
This guy is doing well.
Steve said i wonder if he fought one of our british fighters.
I did that with them.
The australian, jo george campbell jr, i thought when i first saw him.
I would imagine him against one of our british players and he thought lisa will be anyone, so i’m doing the scene with brandon lee.
I like this kid.
Oh he’s good.
You know who i do like ray.
You put me on to him the other day, um uh, dennis the menace mccann yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah funny.
It was funny you put me on to him.
I profiled him three months ago on my show right.
I already was, i was already on this kid and i’ll tell you.
I love this kid man.
I love the way.
This kid fights.
I think i think really he’s his ring iq and, and his tools are far beyond his ears – he’s a veteran right out of the game.
That’S yeah! That’S nice enough for our mapping to make to you guys is um.
I know natasha jonas has promised me to do an interview after saturday’s fight at some stage, if you guys, if you guys ever, want to jump on and and and jump on when we’re hosting these guests you’re more than welcome you’re.
More than welcome you know so: we’ve got we’ve got quite a few lined up right here, but but, like i said, natasha jones has promised me an interview with all news um after the fight saturday.
So there’s an offer from me um and i come good ray.
Don’T i you know when i say i’m getting these people on yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, he pulled up with guests on thursday.
I i can’t afford, even until the last minute, wouldn’t kind of come off um.
Just from what i know of that person, and then it came off so incredible.
Thank you.
I just got to get to the gap to talk to these people, we’re calling the magic man we don’t call them.
What i would say boys is as eddie and taught north america to promote boxing.
I mean supporting you guys getting people on your show.
There you go that’s when we do get these people on i’ll, let i’ll let mike know, graham and and like i said you graham or christian you’re, more than welcome to jump on anything.
I can do support to support you guys and getting people onto your show.
I’M not saying i can make i’m not saying i’m any better than you guys, because i’m clear i’m clearly not but or many hands make light work guys.
Don’T know you know many hands make light work so great.
I think it’s a good collaboration.
We’Ve got going on here.
You know um transatlantic, it’s clear that me, graham and and ray know more than mike, but we’ll work on that.
You know we’ll work on that and that you support mike and his development around his knowledge of boxing.
I think he’s a great public service that you’re doing um so and we’ll we’ll continue to support mike from this side of the pond and eventually we’ll get there man so starting soon.
Gentlemen yeah it’s just 32 8 o’clock, there’s a card, so i think uh yeah, there’s a card coming up.
So time flies.
It does man right on well, thanks very much, gentlemen from last call uh a great podcast out of the uk.
Thanks talk and fight fans mike you want to take us out with that uh triple hook.
Definitely, man fight fans.
Thank you again, ray carl thanks again for coming on.
Graham, don’t do it, martin, don’t do it don’t do that live mike, don’t do it like hook subscribe and knock me out those comments.
Baby we’ll see you next week.
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