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Happy new year welcome boxing fans from around the world to another episode of the friday night panel featuring christian mike myself here on talk and fight and uh we’ve had a festive week, that’s for sure and looking forward to the weekend ahead of us full of fights Which have already begun, uh of which uh we watched several this afternoon somewhere mike, and i were just saying christian, just how incredibly boring uh this.
I was expecting a knockout.
You know you’d seen all the uh preliminary highlights of this guy turkey, just just knocking out his opponents left right center, so i was thinking ah yeah good and it just turned into a hug fest.
Hopefully it was just a huge guess.
What he’s not going to be on our show on sunday? That’S that’s right! That’S right! He left it in the hands of the judges.
Sorry, turkey! No! No! All right! All right, uh, quick, little quick little headline, i just just just been uh skimming through some headlines.
Uh, i noticed that our girl, out of montreal uh jessica, the cobra camara her fight’s, been delayed uh her her opponent was heather heather hardy and heather hardy’s gotten sick, not kovit, not kovit uh, but she’s, gotten sick.
So lou de bello has announced that he’s delayed that fight uh until may 14th.
I think that’s what the announcement read anyway, uh christian, do you have any history for us or trivia? What do you got? Oh, i usually have something kicking around for this one here but uh.
Let’S see uh we’re talking a little bit today about rocky marciano and uh, specifically jersey, joe walcott, but a bit of the run-up to their uh to their fight, because this was the fight that got marciano his heavyweight.
So before relinquishing his crown, joe lewis had faced veteran joe jersey, joe walcott, twice, okay, so their first clash back in 1947 was one of the most controversial in history.
As judges gave the brown bomber a narrow points win when everybody else basically saw this fight saw well caught as the clear winner, so the agent champions mortality was clearly showing and when, after scoring an 11th round knockout of walcott in his rematch, joe lewis announced his Retirement right away, you know everyone agreed that this was the right decision at the time, but shortly thereafter, lewis, who was faced with a bill from the irs for overdue taxes and uh the man who had done it.
So now the man who had donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to help the united states during world war ii ended up with little choice but to lease up the gloves again.
Meanwhile, as ezra charles had emerged as the new heavyweight champion with a points win over walcott again in chicago, he then turned back.
He then turned back the challenge of the uh of the former champion joe lewis, and went under the fight to defend his title against the rank.
Contenders such as nick maroney and leoma.
Now lewis continued to campaign hoping for another shot and a much needed payday.
But in october of 1951 he ran into a burly young slugger from brockton massachusetts named rocky marciano.
So the two contenders battled it out at madison square garden and nostalgic fans of the brown bomber fought back years.
When uh lewis was knocked out by the younger, stronger man in the eighth round, but earlier that same year, charles and walcott had fought twice more and the rematch in detroit yielding another decision win for the cincinnati cobra.
But more than a few thought.
The verdict represented a second championship: robbery inflicted upon jersey, joe so ezra and walcott made it a trilogy this time in pittsburgh and this time, jersey, joe, scored a historic win with a lightning left hook in the seventh round.
He became the oldest heavyweight champion in boxing history.
Now the following june walcott beat charles again this time on points, while marciano had scored four straight knockouts with four straight knockout wins to firmly establish himself.
Sorry to previous time as the division’s top contender.
The stage was set and the best two heavyweights in the world were at that time: jersey, joe and the rock and the battle for the championship drew some 50 000 people to philadelphia’s municipal stadium, and it was also uh beamed to a record 50 000 theaters in Major cities across america, which i think was a first at the time, marciano versus walcott, inspired some great public interest in part because of the opinions on who was more likely to win.
You know this was pretty sharply divided for the most part.
Marciano’S advantages in youth and power were most thought were gon na, be too much for you know the ringworm 38 year old veteran to overcome that one hurts a little being 38 myself that hurts a little on a personal level uh, but more than a few did See wolcott’s edge and experience and ring smarts and technique.
As being you know, this was going to be the deciding factor.
Jersey, joe you know some said.
Georgia was too old to used up some said rocky was too callow and too prude for his part.
Walcott dismissed marciano from as being any kind of threat, telling anyone who would listen that this young kid just did not have the ability to give him a tough battle, let alone defeat him.
So to the veteran’s eyes, rocky was inexperienced in an underscore brawler lacking in finesse and technique, and now what he said was write this down.
He can’t fight and if i don’t lick him, take my name out of the record books, pretty pretty bold statement and for the better part of 12 rounds of long caught and his backers were proved correct.
You know to be fair midway through the opener yeah midway through the opening round jersey, joe stunned, the challenger, not to mention the huge crowd when he snapped home a sharp left hook that gave marciano the first knockdown of his career.
Putting him right on the seat of his pants on the on the canvas first time it ever happened to him.
Now he was up within three seconds to be fair.
Now rocky was up, you know.
Well up is all this.
You know three or four depending on who you talk to here, but you know he got up, but he was clearly hurt and he took a beating for the rest of that round and you know indeed walcott liked the skilled and experienced workman that he was dominated.
The early going you know turning back rocky’s charges with ease and testing him on the chin repeatedly and in the process making liars out of those who had dismissed him as being too used up to compete with the younger man.
But the challenger started to find his rhythm around the fourth round, bullying his way inside to launch his own offensive.
Now it had already been a fast paced and bruising battle, but the struggle only intensified through the sheer brute strength and aggression that rocky marciano forced walcott back into the ropes.
Now there was a ferocious exchange that followed, they are both taking turns and throwing and eating.
Leather at the furious pace, it’s a great phrase by the way, both eating leather at a furious pace and in the six they clashed heads the challenger suffering, a cut on his scalp and the champion a slice over his left eye.
So you know naturally both corners.
You know at the end of the round, applied solutions and coagulants to treat the wounds and at the end of round seven rocky walked back to his corner, to declare that he couldn’t see at all something had gotten into his eyes and for the next three rounds.
Marciano fought with impaired vision.
Now walcott didn’t need to be asked twice about this one.
He took full advantage of his now vulnerable challenger, easily, avoiding most of rocky’s efforts and countering with precision landing, big shots again and again, and opening up more cuts on rocky marciano’s face and the whole time you know marciano’s face is rising and swelling around his left Eye so it was proving a most impressive performance for the wise and 38 year old, veteran of so many battles with so many great battlers and one of the few, and you know to be fair one of the few to defeat legendary joe lewis, as we mentioned At the top of this article, but to do to be denied by the judges – and he was doing all that he could to win this all-out boxing match against the younger, stronger man after 12 bruising fast-paced rounds.
He was clearly in command and so far ahead.
On points that rocky needed a knockout in order to win experience, skill and ring intelligence were proving too much for raw power and youth and exuberance, and at this point in time, marciano seemed clearly out of his depth and then it all comes to a crashing end.
Marciano answers that answered the bell for the round 13, with malice in his heart intent on turning the tide of this then.
Finally imposing his will on the fight he stalked the champion from a crouch forcing him to retreat and then with wall back uh.
Sorry walcott’s back touching the rubs, both men unleashed big right hands and it was akin to a stereotypical, gunslinger duel in old western movies, when two cowboys draw their guns in the dusty street, each man firing a single killer shot if we’ve set the scene properly here.
For you right now, as it turns out, rockies was the quicker draw and re unleashing a perfectly timed right hook that barely traveled 10 inches now.
Other reports that i’ve read on this fight was that it was rocky’s famous right hand, hay maker, that he that he called the suzy q and rocky claimed that it was only from a distance of 6 inches just saying, but according to this, this account traveled.
Inches the punch was the equivalent of a circuit breaker landing flush on jersey, joe’s chin, with brutal force and instantly turning the lights off wolcott collapsed into sections.
You know collapsed into the ropes his left arm hooked over the middle strand, suspending him as marciano landed a gratuitous left on the side of his head.
The referee in a completely pointless exercise, told out the 10 count.
As the now x, champion’s intense body, slowly surrendered to gravity to rest on the canvas timber.
He could have counted to a thousand.
If he wanted to.
The short vicious right hand would prove to be one of the most consequential punches ever thrown in the prize ring a single a single blow not only erased walcott’s lead on the scorecards, but also mark the beginning of a new chapter in history of the heavyweight championship And the end of jersey, joe’s cinderella career now, as you guys will all know, marciano went on to fight, i think, with 49 uh fights undefeated, for you know 43 of them.
I think we’re by knockout.
Oh, oh here’s trouble.
I i spoke too soon and we’ve got they’re chiming in from across the pond.
Welcome to christian.
Thank you very much [ Music ], so um for those of you who don’t those who don’t know carl carl is a from from last bell boxing uh chat and they come to us from the uk nottingham.
I believe right, correct, correct the land of carl frotch.
That’S right, that’s right! So, oh my god.
I definitely uh dipped the wrist a couple of times in nottingham, actually good, sound, great, graham as well.
The two of us got uh got hammered and nodding in a couple of times.
I think i think i think we’ve all been hammered on him.
That’S right! You’Ve got family in nottingham, don’t you mike? Yes, yes, i do have an aunt that dad that lives here, [, Music, ] above and beyond robin hood.
All right! Yes, yes way above and beyond.
Well, that’s our history lesson for the evening guys! So i’m glad you joined us at a good time, carl we’re just about to talk about uh things a little bit more uh current, yes yeah! I mean i mean you know what first thing i would like to say: kristen is that i’m actually sober so, but the one before this was a london pride.
Actually, so ah london wasn’t having a beer before, but it was an english beer.
So what do i talk about guys, mikey? What’S coming up this weekend, uh? Well, the cards that are coming up tonight? Well, we got the uh, the vasquez and hernandez card uh.
That’S that’s gon na be that’s gon na be pretty good man, uh former human amateur standout uh, ariel perez five-and-oh with four knockouts he’s taking on mexico’s brandon romero 11-1 with six kos in a ten round for the wbc youth.
Intercontinental super bantamweight belt uh this card.
This card’s gearing up to be pretty good man, also uh on the card, is uh muchado and romero uh another big big fight down in mexico man, this card’s gon na gear up to be pretty awesome.
Actually it should be exciting starts, i believe, around nine o’clock.
I don’t know if you guys have a standard or uh yeah.
That’S that’s eastern standard uh, several of mtk global’s highly rated stars, will be in action on this card and um.
You know it’s co-promoted by miura boxing uh.
It should be really good man.
Vasquez he’s 42 and 10 with 16 knockout he’s he’s fighting uh, isaiah or isaiah, hernandez, uh, 10 and 1 with 7 kos and um.
Then you got the teenage sensation: jonathan lopez, uh, two kos and he’s squaring off against uh omar santels, santillan, uh, five and one uh should be, should be an epic belt man, and then we got another perfect guy chris flores.
I think i’ve mentioned him before he’s 4-0 before kos he’s going to be fighting uh raphael, armenta uh he’s two and all with one ko so that you know this card’s gon na be pretty good man mtk global.
They usually got some pretty good youth boxers man uh.
You know the the kids out of mexico, you know you know they’re, always they’re, always man always watching these mexican fights they.
You know they leave it all out there.
They go balls to the wall.
You know they don’t stop, they they throw they throw until they die in the ring, which always makes for exciting fights and hopefully for some wicked knockouts um yeah another card um.
Definitely that uh you guys should know about is the uh the dignum card uh versus uh sirotkin.
That’S that should be a big card.
Danny dignam will defend his wbo european middleweight title against the russian um, and this is another big fight night man packed uh, packed with tons of stuff, uh dignim’s thirteen and over seven kos and he’s ranked number five in the world by wbo and uh.
He last uh competed.
I guess i believe it was march uh last year when he stopped uh, alfredo melli um.
He now turns his attention to sarokin and and sorokin’s 19 among the 7 kos and he’s ranked number 13 in the world by wbc.
So this this card, these guys they’re they’re gon na, go they’re gon na go at it man.
This is gon na, be an epic battle.
It’S a you know.
I think it’s gon na be a slugfest to be honest and then there’s we’ve only got.
Oh i’m like before we go through every car.
We got one.
We got one belt on the line this weekend.
As far as i know, it’s only the one belt.
That’S up for graduating.
That’S demetrius, andre liam williams.
Oh yes, yeah, that’s good! So now i don’t know, i don’t know how many of you guys had a chance to uh check out.
That’S where carl is on my screen, but um.
I don’t know how to check out his show, but he asked you mikey about this one last night and you’ve got some raised eyebrows based on your predictions, yeah man.
So before you weigh in before you weigh in.
I think i think it’s only polite that we let our guests from across the fawn weigh in on this title definitely definitely well.
Uh first thing i would say, is a little bit disappointed about our lower profile.
Boo-Boos got both in america and in the uk a little bit disappointed with the job that eddie and i’ve done with him.
A couple of factors age comes into play, but i do think that liam williams will lose stoppage in the championship rounds.
That’S my prediction and that’s quite a favor favorable prediction on that spell option mike got left out to join a little bit last night i did.
I did honestly i, like williams, and that’s that’s my thing.
I like i like liam williams and um.
You know booboo’s been running, booboo’s been running his mouth and williams wants to shut it for him and and honestly, i believe williams does have the ability to do it.
It’S only two inches in height there’s only two inches in reach between them.
There’S about five years difference in age between them on this one yeah ranked fourth and eighth respectively, andre brent fourth, uh williams, coming in at eighth right now, you’ve also got uh southpaw versus liam williams, with an orthodox stance as well to consider yeah and dominic engle Was a great trainer as well who likes to work on the angles a lot, so i expect to see william moving around.
I just think it’ll just fall a bit short.
I just don’t think he’s quite good enough and you can record this and play it back me.
I think it’s going to be a stoppage.
If, if you ask me to come off the fence, i know you might like to sit on the fence a little bit.
I’M even going to pick around for you i’m going to go for around 10.
Okay, i think i think just a little bit too much for mr williams yep, if you think about it, when you stepped in william smith, he got found wanted.
So i just think he’ll just fall a bit short, i’m keen to you guys think because um, i’m very surprised.
You fancy williams to win the fight, but let’s hear it yeah convincement.
So this was the last eyebrows i was talking about last night, like he called williams and the three you on.
You know what williams has the power man.
He has the power to be able to knock him out and, and he believes he’s gon na bring it to a man he’s been, you know he settled in he’s been in his training camp at you know, ingle gym in sheffield, and you know he’s been he’s Been trying man and he’s been training really really hard and he does have the power to do it.
Man – and i just think it’s it’s – i think no, no, no, not massive, but he does have the ability to do it and honestly, i think he’s going to catch.
You try to convince me or you and myself at this point.
You’Ve already said it.
You you’ve already started everyone in the uk who watches last night at this point at this point.
At this point, i guess i got to kind of try and convince myself right.
I got ta believe i got ta believe believe he’s gon na win.
I believe he’s gon na win, i’m gon na.
Will it i’m gon na? Will it to happen? For williams, i mean obviously from it from a uk straight british perspective.
I hope he does win.
You know i just i just can’t see it.
You know, but i do like the start time for the fight.
I think the zone had done a great job there, taking the global time zone into account, rather than north america, just putting that one out there guys.
Yes, no! No.
What time is that? Well, it’s eddie hearn.
I mean he is english.
What time is that going by that 2pm? Oh okay, 2pm eastern yeah, there we go yep, 11am, pacific, so yeah, okay, he’s keeping that he’s! Keeping the greenwich mean crowd in mind for that one for sure, yeah yeah.
I’M not sure that’ll go down in north america because um that’s quite inconvenient, isn’t it start to be having fun saturday, it’s saturday and it’s it’s covent, there’s a lot of champions.
What does that they look like in typical north america who knows anymore? We don’t have typical north america.
All these cities are in lockdown.
They just announced extended lockdown measures here in toronto today, uh in ontario as a province kind of thing.
So basically we have nothing to do other than sit on our asses and watch boxing.
There’S no excuses, we do we do the work, so they don’t have to man.
That’S it exactly.
I’Ve already watched a bunch of boring fights today, yeah man, yeah man, honestly i was, i was waiting for some sort of knockout to happen.
At least today.
I literally watched boxing from 1 30 until right after our show and uh yeah man, i didn’t see, i didn’t see anything too too spectacular man.
I was kind of kind of upset.
You know like well, you have more in it than i did, because i was too.
I was too disheartened after hearing that the uh of the america’s olympic qualifying tournament’s been cancelled.
That’S that’s all i i just i i tuned out for most of the day today.
After after that, one i mean another fun thing that came up last night mike was june, pascal versus carl flush wanted.
That was quite a good debate regarding that yeah and the state of canadian boxing came up as well.
I know you you gave a few, shout outs, didn’t you yes.
Definitely i did.
Our girl is fighting on the 23rd amanda golly make sure you watch that one.
Now that’s going to be a good fight.
Can we talk a little bit about the uh about the uh? Well, what’s the bet the circus? The side show that’s also happening somewhere.
I’Ve just watched.
Okay, it gets clicks.
It clearly makes money, i might have fun of it from a boxing purist.
No, no! I’M the only reason why i want to see this sideshow.
Man is because of what it’s doing for the sporting box team is, is building a new fan base, but is it it is? It is because eventually, eventually you’re gon na see these guys, like jake, paul and logan paul, and all these youtubers, eventually they’re gon na, take it more serious and then they’re actually gon na start to try harder.
They are trying hard.
Now you watch these guys train they’re in the gym you talk to boxers man.
Boxers are like listen they’re, going through the role man, they’re they’re, doing the paces.
You know they’re in the gym six o’clock in the morning, they’re running they’re, dieting their strength and conditioning they’re doing the work, and you know what no matter, what you do, the more you work at it, the better you get practice, makes better.
So, no matter what our first prediction coming in mikey we’ve got our first prediction on that fight coming in from to see jake paul get knocked out honestly anymore.
Don’T forget, don’t forget that jake paul has enough money and what did he do? He went out and hired maz vidal, who knocked out a screen in five seconds, and i saw a sneak peek of the little training that they’re doing and he’s working on that move that so put aspirin to sleep real, quick.
You know what honestly i get.
I think jake paul is gon na take it man, i think, in a boxing match.
Jake paul is gon na.
Take it we’re talking about.
Let me tell you that we’ve got a bunch of matches to look at the to study his opponent, but there’s nothing there.
I don’t know how you get so it’s a sideshow about a bang average about like that um he’s on some good stuff, [ Laughter, ] yeah, but i’m not sure you can find his down the corner.
No, probably not no comment on that.
One young man no comment so yeah, okay, okay, you know what i’m not.
I hope it’s not a common theme.
That’S all i’m going to say you know, you’ve got the play.
What do you got? I just i just hope i just hope, trailers being called uh.
I i hope it’s being announced by snoop dogg again, because you know what the last uh the last jake paul fight that he announced that was funny.
I was hilarious right like stoop snoop dogg with trilla trailers.
You know there again it’s on fight tv, i’m wondering, if he’s going to do the commentary again right, because you know what honestly it’s it’s comical, it’s comical and it’s going to it’s going to make it.
I mean the the end, the the tyson fight his commentary during the tyson fight was hilarious.
It looks like my two uncles going at it at a barbecue yeah like yeah, that was hilarious, [ Laughter, ], two more minutes, graham graham just two more minutes.
She’S mentioned tyson christine because, where, where does that sit in the mountain circus, is it you know? Is it any better than the youtubers? Is it worse? It shouldn’t be it’s better.
Well, i mean he definitely comes with built-in street cred, whereas jake paul doesn’t because at least he’s coming back to now.
I don’t know if you guys do this in the uk.
If you have like here, like we have in the nhl we’ll have like the old timers games, where we’ll bring back all the stars and stuff like that from yesteryear who can still lace up skates, i’m not sure if they do that in the uk in champions League or anything like that, but uh occasions on occasions, yeah champions are getting drunk and putting on a bit of an exhibition.
Yes, we make fun of it.
Yes, we say it’s, we call it the pillow fight, um, gloves and things like the fact that it’s hard sparring as opposed to a fight – but these are these – are at least guys who do have belts to their names.
They are, they do have street cred yeah.
It’S you know what it makes for a much more technical boxing match.
It looks better like honestly we’re going to see when you see jake, paul and ben asking go in there you’re not going to see the greatest head hunting head hunting for a minute you’re going to see head hunting.
That’S all you’re going to see, and you know what they’re both going to they’re, both going to be like punch, tired after the first, if nobody gets knocked out in the first round well, except that really, i think, um jay.
I think the poor brothers need to be careful of the calling out because they’re in danger of getting her all joking aside besides two there’s a case where they could quite easily get hurt.
Couldn’T that you know, and then that then all of a sudden, all that odd good work, that mike perceives is done by these events, which i don’t agree with it’s undone.
So would that make.
But you know there’s already questions around the the safety of boxing.
Isn’T that and then you know you know what i believe you know what i believe is that those fans that come even though they’ve come on his back.
If they watch him get knocked out, they’re hooked because they’ve just seen a wicked knockout they’re going to get to that they’re going to get you’re going to get stuck to the sport man.
That’S how i got hooked.
I got hooked on this door watching people get knocked out.
No i’ve seen your point, but i’m conscious of time i don’t believe um.
This is a really poor analogy in the uk, but i’m going to go for it at half past 12 at night, you’re almost thrown a lot of mud against the wall and open it all sticks.
These people have got.
The majority of these people got no interest in boxing boxing, doesn’t retain them, they’ll, come and watch this one fight and then disappear again.
That that’s my view, so i’m not sure what boxing gets out of it.
To be honest, so which would you rather see these youtubers or the old timers coming back for their hard sparring matches? Neva come on, you know what i’d like to see come on.
We’Ve got holy holy fields, lacing up against holyfield’s lacing up in june.
I’M worried about credibility, christian, that’s what i’m worried about they’ve had the day they’ve had the day in the sun um.
Are they coming back for the love of the sport or are they coming back for the pay day to be fair? They weren’t paying the same back in holyfield’s day.
They were working the money they’re making now so you know there’s a good chance that some of these guys may have burned through their paydays from the 80s.
Oh definitely so you haven’t seen your own question.
Aren’T you in essence? Well, no.
My question was which would you rather see going on out of the two of them but yeah? No, i i get your point.
I get your point they’re there for the paychecks they’re there for the entertainment value again, because these aren’t real boxing.
There’S no titles on the uh on the line.
There’S rumors that i smoked a big joint before he got in the uh uh there to pick up a paycheck to get their car out of the repo wow.
Okay, that’s a bit! That’S a bit rough! Although our history lesson that did start off with joel was having a massive irs bill and having the latest back up again so they’re in danger of it taking taking away from the legacy when we think of the field, we think about him coming up from cruiser To everywhere giving types and a boxing lesson i’d argue, and then we see this kind of product in the ring now, which is a lot older, understandable and did it take something away from from his register? That’S what i would argue well, i think that’s why they have that’s, why they do it as the hard sparring as opposed to actual fights, because they don’t want anyone to lose their legacy on getting on tripping over their own feet.
Getting knocked out in the ring in their 50s, are you kidding me so and that’s why they won’t let those like they won’t? Let those legacies be disturbed too much and that’s why they go out there and just poke at each other.
With oversized gloves, i will buy the pay-per-view.
Did i buy tyson? Yes against roy jones, so um, you know so there’s obviously a market there, but do i agree with it? If nothing else, it’s sure more big curiosity still move like that.
Still, you know because jones was unorthodox from day one you know, can he still? Can he figure tyson out even this far along, like yeah, there’s morbid curiosity going? How is this going to look, and the answer was like two snoop dogs uncles at a barbecue apparently well, i did give myself a look in the mirror at 3am when i was getting up to watch it, and i gave myself a bigger look in the mirror When it finished at 5am – and i thought what have i just watched – that’s the same thing – i thought man.
I thought i can’t believe i sat through this entire event and watched this crap and then the boat.
They gave him both about belt what’s happening here.
It was like those kids in school that got the participation yeah, nobody can lose yeah, nobody nobody’s a loser.
Everybody goes home a winner, i mean what did you think christian? What did you think of the standard of tyson roy jones? Well, that’s it! It was hard sparring for what it was it was.
It was exactly what it promised itself to be.
They promised they promised these two guys in their 50s to come out.
They told it there’s going to be no head shots, there’s going to be no knockouts.
These guys are putting on an exhibition and as long as you kept that in mind, even when you were listening to the commentary, they kept saying things like all things considered.
This is really good when you take into account the fact that these guys are in their 50s.
These guys look great, so they every every.
Even the commentators uh the live, were you know they were.
They had to kind of uh preface every comment they made with the fact that these guys are in their 50s.
So we can’t expect them to look like they’re going to in their prime, so anyone who’s expecting to actually see a tyson or a roy jones fight was going to be disappointed.
People were only watching because oh i’ve heard the name mike tyson before this should be good.
We’Re disappointed people who are watching tyson back in the 80s 90s and roy jones jr back in the 80s back in the 90s and forward um.
No, like you.
Basically, you watched, you saw their styles.
You saw these two guys put on an exhibition and both in their own signature style.
In my personal opinion, tyson could have taken jones about three different times in that fight.
If they weren’t hard sparring, maybe he shouldn’t allegedly smoke that joint, then and then the last question, but it really has to come down.
It really comes down to what you what what you were hoping to get out of that fight beforehand.
If you knew, if you went for what it was, it was impressive.
I i was impressed, i’m hoping i could move half that good when i’m 50.
yeah yeah yeah and the last.
The last question that i forgot to ask my last night, which a couple of my guys from watson prompted me, so this is not me that little disclaimer at the bottom of the screen.
This is not my question.
However, i’ve got a duty to ask in terms of lennox lewis, canadian or british, oh well, i i would say his gold medal says canada, that’s exactly right! Good answer! Christian! I’M just like he had a choice yeah if you’re giving he had a choice.
I know you asked mike this, but sorry you you got me yeah yeah.
I trust you.
This is this now you’re, where i’m lit now you’re, where i live, because he had a choice but who he was going to fight for like all olympic athletes.
All the time we see athletes choosing to you, know the dual nationals and they choose which which national team they’re going for.
He had a choice.
He chose canada.
He chose to win his gold medal of canada.
That says canada to me.
Let’S do it more same same same his metal says canada, man he’s canadian yeah uh i’ll take with one of our own, of course, you’re gon na, of course, we’re going to take it.
You know, honestly, honestly, if he was a twix bar, we could split them.
What i would say is um what national anthem was always sang before any any will title fight see what the flag was.
What flag was in the ring? I didn’t.
I didn’t see a mate.
I didn’t see a canadian flag in that ring, i’m here to defend guards.
You’Ve got to expect me to defend.
Know florence, of course, you’re gon na defend, but just remember just remember that that that gold medal that hangs around his neck says canada on it.
For the world titles carl, you got ta give it.
We have one, we have.
We have a single gold medal in boxing fire, but you know yeah.
This would have been an easier question to ask when it was, the ratio was the other way around.
I, like a challenge christian, you know i’m not shy and coming forward, even when i’m sober just get out one in there again.
I i think um, it’s got ta be british right, come on.
You guys have this history of this one here you know.
If someone does something poorly and they’re scottish now, however, if they do something great, like the telephone, all of a sudden, he was a brit and i’ll say the same about the welsh as well in the northern ireland.
For that one, you guys have a habit of claiming claiming people well well tons more tons more but hey at the end of the day.
If i flip a loony over the other way, that’s the same person on the back of it.
We’Re all under the queen.
Aren’T you claiming a nigerian as a brit these days in the heavyweight category mission about there? Graham, yes, sir, hey, if you do, if you do google, if lennox lewis is canadian, he doesn’t speak up.
Often it says it says: he’s british canadian so he’s both.
Is that is that right? Is it my life that way, it says yeah, that’s what it says.
He says: he’s british canadian! Yes, because english and that’s interesting: okay, yeah yeah! I like the way the british beats first, so i think that that’s great tell alphabetical order.
Yeah that the tyson fights happening when tyson sobers up tyson fury sobers up.
That’S when that anthony joshua fights finally gon na happen well, yeah 24th of july, saudi arabia is what’s being muted, yeah yeah again last i heard tyson fury was putting back 10 points a day, he’s very good.
Isn’T that i didn’t catch it, i did catch him.
Dancing on instagram on his furniture and his tables, you know what he, if it did, what they’re saying is: if those are self-admitted, he will win that fight before he steps into the ring he will do.
It will do a similar job to what he did with klitschko.
Anthony joshua will not know mentally whether he’s coming all going by the time.
He’S finishing the mind.
Games he’s good at that.
That’S for sure.
Yeah he’s definitely good at that uh.
Another card going on this weekend and the uh the harrison and uh perella card is happening which i’m excited to see because um.
Well, we have, we had um, we had our buddy trayvon lawson on and uh on.
That card is the guy that he he got famous uh knocking out.
Angel baratus is on that card and his brother, who both make for some exciting fights so you’re gon na see some young guys in the ring there uh one of them coming off a nasty knockout and uh yeah man that should be for an epic uh undercard.
I can’t wait to see that, but uh the harrison harrison card is is looking like it’s gon na be pretty good.
You know, uh former wbc super welterweight world champion tony harrison and um it’s gon na, be it’s gon na be great man.
It should be for an epic fight.
These two can smash.
They have the stamina to keep going uh.
It should make for an epic man.
I can’t wait to see it there’s a lot of good fights man.
I can’t wait to see them all and i can’t wait to do our sunday.
Knockout show man and show show everybody around the world uh the winners, the winners of our prestigious knuckle up knockout of the week.
I can’t wait.
I can’t wait to see this man.
I was hoping to see something this afternoon, but you know i saw nothing but boring, boring, boring, boring matches, boring technical matches decided by judges by landing punches as opposed to yeah wild haymakers yeah.
I got it.
Okay, no! No! Not wild haymakers well-placed punches.
That put people to sleep, you know like fa or winner last week i can still.
I can still hear the crack of that glove hitting his face man when he spun him around what an epic shot man.
Well, yes, this is good.
This is going to be a good weekend for fights um, i’m so excited uh yeah.
We got lots of things going on other than that.
I don’t know what you guys want to talk about.
We got fights to where do you think connor ben goes next.
Honestly he’s calling out a lot of people, sean porter’s, the latest one uh.
I think i think he also called out uh khan right.
I think he’s calling out everybody into you know, honestly, honestly, after watching the [ __ ] way after watching the post fight interview, uh realistically man, you know he’s full of piss of vinegar, he’s got balls of brass he’s, confident he’s coming off a vicious victory.
You know um beating up our guy from toronto, canada and uh.
Let’S, let’s be real man he’s got the ability to do whatever man he’s, naturally talented and believe me, eddie hearn’s got plans for that guy.
He doesn’t want to push him too fast which which he said you know he wants him to take his time, but connor ben is, is demanding no respect on his name and he wants him to stop calling it a step up fight for everybody else.
When clearly they’re the ones that are stepping up trying to get in the ring with him, because he keeps putting these guys out, you know with with fashion – and you know what he’s a brilliant fighter – technical he’s really coming into his own.
You know his dad his dad was a you know, a great boxer as well – and you know, he’s he’s naturally talented and now now his now his natural talent and his and his you know, training are really coming together and he’s really turning into one of these Well-Rounded fighters that looks like they’re going to be undefeated for a long time and honestly, i believe i believe at this point in his career, he needs to slow down a bit, don’t take the biggest fight right away, because something like that could really like you know, Derail his his plans – and i know eddie hearn’s – got good plans for him and he’s just got to calm down, wait and just allow eddie to set up the fights that he knows that are going to be right for him, because you know what, at the end Of the day this kid is going to be, i i believe he has the ability to be an undisputed champion.
That’S a big goal in that weight: division as well.
It’S a very big call, it’s a big call, but he has the ability.
Man he’s got the work, you know, he’s got the work, the drive, the work ethic.
Is there, man he’s, you know, first one in the gym the last one to leave and you know he works and works and works.
His work ethic is there and that’s what it takes to build a champion.
Man is work, ethic and he’s got it, and then you know what, on top of that he’s got the natural ability as well.
He can do big things.
We just got to allow him to take the right course and allow his promoters and his management team to do what’s best for him and he needs to just cool his britches man and just let the team do the work.
That’S it man, that’s all he’s got to do and we’re going to see big things from him he’s a great fighter.
I’M upset that the fight that he you know last weekend was only you know.
The first round would like a minute something in.
I was hoping to see more and we were.
I was hoping to see mike breathe.
Why breathe? Let carl talk there.
He had suddenly saying no, no, no keep going breathe buddy because as much as it was a good performance um, it doesn’t make him a world.
Beater overnight, it’s still it’s still quite a novice and he blew that guy away and i thought he’s going to get a good 10 rounds out of that from what i’ve seen if uh was it for a guys, remember, yeah and yeah and vargas is in the Best shape of his life and like he was looking the best he’s looked in years in the headlines like what’s going on here, um suggested that the ref might have jumped in a bit earlier because um by all accounts by all accounts, um is a slow starter.
Honestly, they should have let it go, they should have let it go you’re right, the ref stopped it early.
You know what if he was going to get brutally knocked out, it should have happened like let’s be real man.
This is this.
Is the sport you’re in and you know what, if, if you’re, if you’re going to get brutally knocked out, then that’s what’s supposed to happen, because then that way, mike i mean we’re like the the sport itself has to adapt as time goes on and you have To take into account the safety of the fighters, because, if you don’t start looking to the safety of your fighters, that’s how this sport dies out, eventually through regulations and other things that are going to take it away from you, as opposed to you, know, putting smart Regulations in that keep the you know as safe as you can make a fist fight.
I guess, but you know you have to have those regulations, otherwise we’re gon na see our sport slowly decline, actually, probably not that slowly, but you will see a decline.
That’S gon na take it away from the youth in the next generation right and the only the only challenge was christian.
Nothing was coming back from vargas, so the referee is clearly going to start thinking about stepping if nothing’s coming back there wasn’t much coming back.
Mike was there, you know he didn’t protest that he knew he knew.
There was nothing he could do man we had.
We had a couple of weeks ago mikey so that jennifer huggins was on she’s, the president of uh, sorry, the boxing ontario and a aida three-star judge, and she said you know her her thought from from the refereeing side of things she said, i would rather stop A thousand fights early than once than one fight too late.
That’S true, that’s true, and that and that’s from someone who’s refereeing at the top of the game.
You know from the amateur side of things.
Of course, that’s someone who’s qualified the referee in olympic county, and that’s so that you have to understand.
That’S probably, this very similar mindset is what you’re going to see in a lot of referees.
They would rather get criticized for stopping things early than having some guy turn out a freaking vegetable or die in the ring and have them put it on you.
Listen i’ll, tell you any fighter, that’s in the ring and the refs stepping in to stop that fighter.
That’S being like that, the fight is being stopped for him.
He believes it’s an early stoppage, no matter what they all.
Do you don’t fight to the sexual breeds? Aren’T they sometimes you’ve got to save them from themselves? So because definitely and that’s that’s why you see a lot of the corners thrown in the towels man, i can’t i can’t explain how many how many fights i’ve seen in the last month where the coroner has thrown in the towel, because the fighter just won’t.
Stop you know he he won’t stop walking forward, he’s not defending he’s just taking the punches, and you know that this guy is out because you’re, not thinking at that point, you’re relying on training and that’s why they train that’s why they condition as hard as they Do is because, when you’re in the moment you can switch your brain off and you rely on training and instinct and training is going to tell you to keep pushing.
Even when you know logic would say you’re done here and that’s yeah, that’s why you see the towel coming from the corner.
That’S why they have the authority to throw that uh towel from the corner.
Definitely there’s a lot of a lot of um factions to it.
Isn’T there you know that you got the uh adrenaline, you know how many times you’ve been in a situation when the adrenaline is pumping you’ve, not thought, logically, i’m sure you’ve all been there.
The adrenaline or you’ve pushed through an injury because of adrenaline.
You don’t feel the injury, the way you’ve actually hurt yourself and what a difficult job the referees and the judges definitely referee.
What a difficult gig that is, you know you’re going to get criticized, no matter what even from the corner or be from the public.
You know if one of them’s going to think you’ve stepped in earlier one’s going to think you’ve.
Let go too long.
So it’s a thankless job, sometimes thankless job.
Definitely that’s true! Yeah yeah! You know what it’s it’s, it’s, it comes with the territory and you know what i wouldn’t want to be, the guy that might you’re all shot.
You might i’m seeing it right different side of you this evening, you’re ash, you’re, awesome, no we’ve talked before and he was on best behavior.
When he crosses the pawn to talk on your shoulders.
He was yeah.
He has to be diplomatic when he crosses the pond.
Always always always got to be diplomatic.
I can’t wait.
I’M i’m excited man.
The vast press hernandez card is starting soon, man with machado romero as well.
I can’t wait.
I’M going to go watch that very, very shortly yeah prep for that.
Hopefully we get to see some knockouts yeah.
We want that official announcement.
Don’T worry the next couple of days, fiori aj, you wanted pop stuff date location and then we can start the build up.
Yes and then we can start the build up and we can also have the guys that are sitting and waiting for this fight that you know are next in line to start their plan, which you know what is going to gear up honestly after this fight 2022 Is going to be the year that the heavyweights, the heavyweight division is exciting again because there’s a lot of big names, a lot of guys here? How many guys are calling out both uh joshua and fury everybody’s calling both of them at this point? Because they just wanted to get it over with so that they they can move on to other fights yeah, and you know what it’s going to make it’s going to make for an exciting 2022 in the heavyweight division in boxing, and i want to see what the Rest of that card looks like too.
What’S the undercard going to be when it finally happens, there’s rumors that patty donovan will be on that card.
There’S a lot of rumors as to what’s going on.
That’S my point like we’re getting patty from getting patty donovan uh in in for an interview soon, uh i’ll knuckle up i’ll i’ll, ask him, but we’ll we’ll talk to him and see what happens yeah.
I was saying i’d like to see kate taylor on that card.
Katie taylor on that card, that’d be big.
She she’s got a fight.
I mean she’s got to meet natasha jonas.
First, that’s not a given.
It’S definitely not a given a lot of amateur um there.
In the touch of jonas, you know it’s not a give me.
It’S not a give me five that one she’s a very good fighter.
I’Ve got a comment on my show by the way, after the fight so be sure to keep an eye out for that one.
Oh definitely, definitely i will we’ll check it out and then lastly, joe joyce, i think joe joyce walks through usyk as well.
I know you’re a big fan of uc mark.
I also i also like joe joyce as well.
I really like him.
I don’t think he gets the love he deserves in the uk, because he’s just boxing style um, he doesn’t think he’s.
Just fear is a he’s.
A unit isn’t that yeah yeah, you know and tyson fiori often says about sparring joyce was joyce, was a very heavy hitter yeah, so joyce joyce has got joyce.
Has that knockout power in his jab like yeah? You know his tail of the tape speaks for itself and you know what he doesn’t get the love that he deserves, and you know what i can’t.
I can’t wait to see him.
You know back in action man every time, every time he’s in action, i’m down to watch that fight, because you know it’s going to end with with you know a brilliant knockout music is definitely definitely but you can’t count usyk out, because you know what he’s fought A lot at heavyweight, you know what he’s a little smaller he’s.
A little faster he’s gon na have to stick your move, a lot um, it’s whether or not he’s going to be able to take those kind of punches.
You know he’s not.
I don’t know he’s not look great at the weight division.
No, no he’s he’s on he’s on he’s on the lower end of that weight.
Division right because he weighs in about say you know 220 225 and around there and you know, he’s a couple inches shorter and then we got the other guys that are up in you know the 240s 250s.
At that point, you know six, six, six, seven! Six, five, you know, he’s a small he’s on the smaller end, but you know what he’s a highly decorated amateur at heavyweight.
So you know he has the ability to fight as a heavyweight which you know i’ve watched him fight.
He is a machine man he’s, you know, he’s he’s one of those guys.
He just goes, and you know it always makes for a good fight.
Definitely definitely makes her a good fight man and then the last last one for me i’m going to go then i promise.
Thank you for your time.
They’Ve been, you know, been really good.
Um would be dillian white versus deontay wilder.
If that happens now, that is an intriguing part um.
You know what i think.
Deontay wilder has a lot to prove after his life.
That’S not the wilder fight that everyone’s hoping for is it, but the fight wilder’s.
Looking for no well there’s still some there’s still.
Some legal issues isn’t there around the time trilogy.
Isn’T yes, because because technically they signed a three-fight deal now, deante wilder is in his right to have that fight legally and – and he said that you know back in the early days of this whole joshua and fury thing that he was going to you know, use That and you know, sue over this and say: hey man, we’re going to talk to lawyers and get this done.
But then we had people like us step up and say: hey man, i’ll fight this guy, so that could happen.
Hey i’ll fight this guy, so that guy could happen so there’s heavyweights that are just like: hey, let’s go man, so i think it was kind of like swept under the rug or somebody kind of you know – maybe left some money in a bag somewhere and was Like hey, you probably shouldn’t worry about that legal thing anymore and we’ll get you something else, because you know what it’s kind of died down about that whole legal talk.
It’S just kind of that was it and i and i believe it’s just because this is a year of unification and undisputed champions, and i think it’s just time that you know the heavyweight division has an undisputed champion and now that the ability for that fight to Actually happen could happen.
That’S what everybody wants.
That’S what everybody wants to see and that’s what the promoters pushed and, i think they’ve.
I think they’ve shut up deante wilder by telling him something that we don’t know about, because you know what he just shut up about.
It you know first, it was social media doing what deserves his shot, though right he’s waiting long enough, definitely definitely big big.
You know what he’s coming off that big win, the last one.
You know he uh he you know he did well.
I mean what i would like someone to explain to me from the wbc.
Is our dominant brazil got a wheeled title shot and dillian white was left hanging answers on the postcard to use an old uk expression you know is that the key to the checks in the mail is that somewhere the same? No christian, your way out get some all that point dania.
So honestly, it’s getting to that time where i’m gon na go and get some paints in me because look guys really enjoyed it.
Okay, like say you’re, all welcome on the last spell boxing i’ll get the guys onto here, one time as well um because it mixes it up a little bit.
I’Ve had a good she’s, an irish term.
I’Ve had a good crack tonight.
I’Ve been a good laugh and a joke, so take care.
Keep safe, i’ll speak to you soon for sure for sure see you later carl take care thanks, carl jess, but cheers well guys that was carl our man from overseas.
Are you okay, connect? Are you? Okay? Connect, yes, uh.
Definitely good good, good, lad! Uh! You know, crack jokes he’s fun, so we got fights to watch gentlemen.
We have work to do because you know what saturday is our work day and friday evenings so we’re going to.