AIR DATE: Apr 24 2022 07:53UTC
EPISODE: Episode 11
Tyson Fury KOs Dillian Whyte | KO Award with mike and Cedric | TalkinFight.com
Mike and Cedric award the weekly KO award to Tyson Fury for his KO victory over Dillian Whyte which took place April 23 at Wembley Stadium in London. Tyson Fury (31-0-1) and Dillian Whyte (28-2) collided in the main event.
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What up talking fight fans thanks for tuning in today’s episode of knuckle up knockout of the week? You know what you’re here for man featuring myself mike orr and my man, cedric ben in the den, and we have none other than two-time heavyweight champ of the world.
Tim witherspoon he’s gon na help us break down the winner of tonight’s knockout of the week award, and that goes to none other than tyson.
The gypsy king fury.
Yes, welcome guys.
Let’S talk about it, we got to talk about the big fight that happened last night and how dillian white went down with the same shot.
That he’s lost his previous two analysis with man uh, let’s get on it, i thought uh.
You know this was this: was dylan dylan white’s um opportunity that he that he’s been waiting for all these years for um, you know he’s been? Is you know he lost to josh’s last loss or big loss? Last time he had a title shot was against anthony joshua a lot of years ago.
Since then, he’s had some, you know he’s been on a good terry.
He did have a couple one or two losses in between there, but i think he avenged those losses like when he knocked out povetkin and stuff like that um.
So i thought this would be this.
You know this not.
This was his opportunity.
This was what up girl from las vel.
This was his opportunity to um.
You know to to to to make that shocking thing.
You know there was no rematch clause, so you know he had that that one opportunity but uh couldn’t capitalize on it.
Um and the main thing main thing was: was the defense yeah um champ go ahead, give give us your take down.
Yeah tell us what you thought.
Well, you know um.
I really wouldn’t blame it all on him.
Even though it’s not blaming things, it’s not a blaming thing um.
You know in this boxing game, your management and your promo and your promoters.
Everybody has a part in this.
Everybody has a partners, your trainer, um everybody, so um like back in the day, real quick back in the day um.
I knew some promoters if they didn’t like what they saw, they would go in, they would get involved and say hey.
We got to figure something out um, whoever was whoever was involved with uh uh dylan white um.
Either they didn’t care or they just don’t know.
You know, there’s not a lot of old-timers.
That’S still alive today to come in and say man.
I think you need this.
I think you need that and people listen to them.
You know it’s getting so bad and i hate to talk about sugar hill um.
You can look clearly look at his pad work.
You could clearly look at his at his.
I love the brother, but you could clearly listen to his language and tell he don’t really know that much.
I think tyson likes him a lot a lot and taking the taste of just bring him on board and tyson get the job done.
He’S like frank sinatra: i’ll: do it my way? So so i hate to talk negative, but this is what i see when i hear sugar hill talk.
I don’t want to jump off the subject.
When i hear him talk, he don’t he talk fairy uh.
Theory and so does malik scott a little bit oh well.
We got that love for each other and i think that it it’ll multiply and we’ll get together, but you never him say where that left hook need to be a little closer.
You need to block this specific.
Give me specific details like you.
Don’T see that you need to see um so but and tyson fury and dylan white definitely needed and guys like us, like you’re a trainer.
I think you’re boxing for two mike little.
Maybe we noticed these things and it’s a shame that sometimes they put us on a negative side, but we’re really talking about what what happened.
I don’t dislike my uh, i don’t dislike uh tyson fury or none of those guys.
I see things and i i should people should respect a little bit of what words come out of my mouth, just like yours, too, i’m not down with him, but i’m just telling you the truth: yeah yeah, carl carl you’re right man, sugar oil, has transformed tyson Um he gave him that cronk style man he gave that cronk style for sure uh, but yo.
Where does dillian white go from here? You know what i mean he’s now, he’s now lost three times to the same punch.
Obviously, there’s an issue there there’s a huge issue.
It’S so easy they have to do is ask somebody yeah.
He looked the same.
He looked the same and and just a couple of different things, maybe – and it was so stupid for them to go southpaw that shows to me the inexperience, get right down to the nitty and the gritty and get this fight over with there.
He went and then with the southpaw, and i was like, was it that wet white came out as in the southpaw in the beginning, and then fury came out in the second round in the southpaw and by the third by the third.
The referee had to gain control of the fight because they weren’t breaking up when they were supposed to, and then he had that accidental headbutt that caused a cut over dillian’s eye.
And then you know from there.
It started to turn into the slugfest that we all hoped and hoped it did man you know if they didn’t if they didn’t mess around for those first, two where they were both.
You know trying out their little left.
Left-Sided uh, you know unorthodox game there, man, it might have been a little different.
I think it went down a little earlier man then i believe it was the sixth round not stopping yeah, now, specifically about the knockout, which is the reason why we are here.
He led tyson fury, landed a jab first and then stepped in with it with a right, uppercut um and i always said you know the uppercuts and hook specifically the uppercut.
You know it’s a dangerous punch to throw because you have to be closer to the person.
So yeah, so the middle is a dangerous plug.
It’S hard, it’s hard to defend exactly exactly, and it’s also leaving yourself a little bit open too, because you’re closer to the person with that.
If, with that, with that hand open so um yeah right on the button, definitely needed his life when you’re doing that punch, you definitely need that left in the front and when you whip it you, when you whip it just in case you missed.
This left got to be here, so you can follow through with it yeah yeah yeah or you can still write and keep the left there for defense.
You know so yeah that day uh he did that pretty good yeah.
He came out relaxed.
He came out nice and relaxed, he said boom.
Then he got in close boom.
Yeah yeah, he landed.
You know, white was uh the whole fight.
He kept his like.
It’S almost like didn’t like he was so focused on not getting caught with a check.
Left hook with tyson fury popping that jab and coming with that left hook so dylan white had that right hand up because you so he was so worried about that.
He wasn’t even thinking about this and that’s how he just came up boom right up the middle and just folded him and he beat the count.
But it was a good stoppage by the referee because he wasn’t in good shape, even though, even though he got up before 10, you know you got to think about the safety and your future first, so yeah with so much money involved.
So much money involved.
You figure the management and everybody would realize this.
You know their millions and the 20 million that’s coming into play.
They forgetting about well that fight was on over over over in in england, but over here a lot of different trainers probably would get involved or something or whisper to the guy look man this and that um you know, don’t it doesn’t look like dylan white.
Had anybody he was loyal to his team, but sometimes loyalty doesn’t get you get you that far so he’s loyal and i’m loyal to my guys.
But if, if i needed help, i would i would try to get it, but he didn’t even know he needed help.
No, you know what i i believe now he he’s gon na know that he needs some help.
Man, you lose.
Your three losses are by the same punch.
You know what i’m saying you lost three times with the exact same shot, man an uppercut and it’s dropped.
You man, so there’s definitely a hole in his game.
He’S got to work on it and uh.
Hopefully he goes back to the drawing board and uh.
You know decides to learn how to block that uppercut man, but i’m not taking away from tyson fury with his vicious uppercut, because, honestly, honestly, real time really shows you men, the speed you guys are going to see a lot of highlights out there of the shot Coming through and landing clean, but you know what you want to see the real speed of it man, it was a laser shot set up perfectly by that jab, throwing it out there and and dillian white just walked into it.
As tyson fury came up with that bullet of of of an uppercut man, you know what honestly the man’s retiring now they’re there he’s got nothing left to prove and he went out with a bang last night.
I want to touch on this, though i want to touch on this just for a second.
What do you guys think about him, leaving dillian white in the ring for 16 minutes, while he made his own ring, walk said it so dillian white was in the ring.
16 minutes before tactics yeah, that’s part of the game.
That’S part of the mind games.
You know yeah.
That was a 10 16 minutes.
Man, that’s a long one.
He decided to take a whole lap around the field and then you know run it up from his throne yeah 16 long minutes that dillian white had to stand there.
You know and uh and you know potentially start to get cold.
So you know, i guess it is tactics, that’s why sometimes that’s why? Sometimes it’s it’s uh and champ.
You would know this, it’s a middle game.
Sometimes they put it in in the contract.
That’S how serious they make sure it’s in the contract like who’s going.
First, who’s going, second and whatever, whatever just to get that little that little mind game.
Oh all, the time the champion goes last um and like the uh, the opponent, he goes first and then the champ go last and mo in most cases.
I never heard of uh a fight where the the champ went in first and then uh what about what about when you’re, on the way up like when you’re, like you know, just starting out your career like who who do how to decide who goes first? Well, you know the promoter, he he knows who’s, the the better boxer.
You know how you get the opponent against, submit yeah, yeah and i’m sure the guy.
That’S that’s promoting the the boxer.
He makes him go in in um yeah, but sometimes there’s just both of them good and they just had to choose like early right.
You’Ve done that before right.
No, i just i just fought amateur, not pro, so i didn’t get it.
Oh, oh, okay! So we have a comment from sheila stafford, thanks sheila for tuning in uh.
We love the comments, keep dropping them, it said uh.
She says it showed with white.
I think he should have fought someone else.
It came off.
He didn’t study fury this.
The same thing would have happened with the other guy, like you said before he got hit with that uppercut before and then he needs somebody to cut.
He needed somebody to come in and change a couple of things.
Okay, his aggression is good.
His thing you just got to keep your hands up while you’re doing that so um hey, it was what he knew he didn’t and i don’t think he learned that much since the last uppercut.
No, no and honestly, the last separate cut we’re talking is is povetkin.
He did offend, he did avenge that loss, but uh.
You know that loss.
We’Re talking was uh.
You know august the 22nd 2020.
So that’s two years ago you know and then uh he fought povetkin um in uh march march of 21 and uh.
You know beat him and then he comes out and fights fury and loses with that same shot that he lost to povetkin with and that he lost to um uh aj back in 2015 with so you know, there’s a big hole in the game there and uh.
You know, i guess they finally realized that you know that’s his uh, that’s his kryptonite man, well, that that walking in catching him with that uppercut man and you know, dylan white’s, not a young cat.
You know he’s been around the game a long time and there’s a lot of people, there’s a there’s, some people that rather see the ship go down than them to to to receive help.
I’Ve seen it a lot coming up in the game where i could see him with somebody who could benefit and they still stayed in the way i mean the trainer.
They had stayed in the way he wouldn’t step down.
I mean a lot of guys wouldn’t step down, sometimes the camps that they got too much pride to admit that they that they need help, and that’s that’s just like joshua.
I i approached him on the internet and talked to him and and and um.
I sent the text to him and he said the text back said no t.
He said i’m good.
I got my team and we’re going to go all the way, and i said he don’t know what he did he he doesn’t know on that level and that aspect right.
The decision he’s making i’m offering him i’m all from um.
He don’t have to pay me.
I told him, i said you don’t have to pay me.
I don’t have to be in the corner, but i guarantee you you like what i like what you’re like what i’m showing you and i respected his – is a reply back.
He said okay, but i knew he was inexperienced when he said that yeah i knew there’s other people running so there’s nothing.
I could do about that.
I tried and dante wilder.
I tried with him.
Um is the managements man dennis rap report, jerry cooney’s, uh manager, promoter, rapper, porter jones.
He wouldn’t take that and you you going or you you, you got ta.
You know just switch it up.
So i learned this in the past and this is really what it is.
If dylan white had somebody helping him, do some a little bit more different, defenses and stuff and tighten it up, it would have been.
It would have been more more um, a more um.
A better fight than what it was that day, yeah, because you could throw that left hook now, yeah man he did he did he did and tyson fury lacks a little defense too.
Now he tried to do all the moving and that’s beautiful, but when the fight get really tough, sometimes you ain’t gon na be able to keep doing that.
You’Re gon na have to do this.
[ Music ] – that was the alarm i’m gon na – have to start tightening it up, get it tight and bang you ain’t gon na be able to do this.
All fight all during the fight or natural movement.
You’Re gon na have to um get down to basic learning.
Once you get down the line and get tired so yeah, so he would need some too, because i don’t see him.
He went down on the canvas a lot a lot and so did his opponent.
So uh i’m not knocking him, he did a hell of a job and his personality and his whole the whole thing with the gypsy king.
That is beautiful, love it that is beautiful, like like, like, like i said on friday, it’s his first time on home soil.
In fort worth, like four years, he hasn’t fought.
It’S been on british soil.
You know, since 2018 uh what a way to go out and end a career.
You know on a big, a big highlight, reel knockout man, because it’s on the show this week there you go.
You know outbox.
Your opponent then finish with a big ko great way to finish your career, sheila dropped.
Another comment: she says better management.
This needs to change it’s about the boxer and the legacy of everyone involved.
True very true, sheila yeah, i could have said it better myself.
Is she a boxer, [ Laughter ]? Is she a boxer carl says british legend lennox lewis would have been proud of that uppercut? I believe he was sitting ringside last night for that uppercut.
Wasn’T he i think so yeah.
So i’m pretty sure he was proud of that man.
Definitely you know from from another heavyweight champ to another heavyweight champ.
Did you were you impressed with the wind last night champ? Was that impressed real quick? Let me get it together.
I was impressed with that uppercut yeah.
I was impressed with the uppercut um, but it’s the fight didn’t really warm up enough for me to get the really good a really good take of it.
I i’m i ain’t gon na lie.
It was kind of like boring, but the atmosphere kept the boringness down.
Some, like all the stuff that happened, come out and see sugar ray and like like uh tommy hearns in them again but um.
I didn’t see it, but it was a good atmosphere.
It was a good fight.
It was worth it like.
That’S that’s a pretty big crowd, man yeah well! Well, we we did 65 000 me and um bruno.
We did 65.
I know the crowd and everything that was beautiful, but i guess guys like like us.
We we really look at the skills we like to see a nice hit with a good uppercut.
We got a great reply here for carl carl says yeah.
He was there.
He was on british tv being british yeah, but don’t forget he learned how to box in canada.
Lewis found my lennox lewis.
Oh you talk about linux, sorry carl! I just had to do it.
The tv mentioned it last night too, how you know he learned how to box in canada.
So you know oh great.
I saw that on tv yeah uh sheila says i agree, furry was calm, white was going along yeah, that’s the way it was it was.
It was a slow start uh.
I definitely want to say that man, it was a slow start to the fight um it started.
I don’t know how easy that fight could that fight could have been for him if you would learn some defense, i’m telling you, oh honestly, honestly, to lose to lose.
You know to lose your third loss with the same same thing: [ Laughter, ], carl’s, killing it man incorrect again.
He learned how to box.
In london, you know his birthplace, [ Laughter, ] carl.
I love you brother.
I love you you’re the best man, honestly, the back and forth me and carl’s been going from day.
One shout out to carl last spell boxing all right shout out to carl and andy yeah, carl and andy great guys from last.
If you haven’t checked it out, man definitely go check out their channel.
They’Re live every thursday.
They you know they break down the events after they happen man just like us uh.
You know we’re we’re good friends of theirs and they’re good friends of ours, man, our counterparts on the other side of the pond, definitely um, yeah, champ, honestly great fight last night.
Thank you for helping me, uh watch it and then uh, you know, go through it and then joining us here today to break down this uh this.
This awesome uppercut that definitely was a bullet of a shot and a laser man.
Honestly, when you watch it in real time, it really doesn’t it.
You know it doesn’t, do it justice unless you watch it in real time.
Man on the speed, the speed was everything and for a big guy like that to be thrown in the hands that quick.
That was very impressive man.
I was very impressed with that win last night definitely was man.
Anything else you guys want to add before we sign off here, didn’t say goodbye to all our wonderful people that have chimed in to watch.
Give me 10 seconds um.
I i like, like um, i i think that um, that that i know that was a beautiful atmosphere to fight and everything um.
I think tyson, fury and anthony joshua need to.
I think they need to get something on.
I think they need to get it going.
Even though he said he retired, but there’s still something left in that, i think yeah he’s he’s healthy, he’s healthy man.
He could go, he could go, he was in better shape than he was for his last than his last fight, like last night, when he came in at 264 and a half only 11 pounds over dillian white.
You know the fight before that.
He came in at his heaviest at 277.
He was taking that he was taking that fight serious man.
You could tell just by the way he was in the gym that time and uh.
You know he came out looking really really great man, but you know that would be another big fight.
You know huge fight, so maybe you should come out of retirement just to do that.
One yeah yeah.
That would be great that one might be easier that one might be easier than uh dylan white amy, sometimes dylan.
No, i love them guys anthony just come in like this.
I’M thinking who’s sick.
I was thinking i was comparing uh um usic to holyfield.
In the fact that, well just looking at the you know, they both won gold medals at the olympics.
They both cleared out the cruiserweight division and then uh usyk hasn’t cleared out the heavyweight division, but he’s he’s up there and he’s beat one one of the top guys at least and he’s doing his thing so far.
That’S where i was looking at the comparison with usakin and holyfield.
So that’s why i thought i thought i thought usyk would have a better chance against fury than joshua.
To be honest, whoa carl seems to disagree with you.
There yeah, i don’t know what you think.
Doesn’T have a chance, i i don’t know madam skills, the skills, the whole thing.
Well, you know what, unfortunately, we’re not going to know because tyson fury retired, so it would be a lot of moving internet fighting and you know what he he retired, with 34 million dollars last night.
So after that yeah that’s big money – 34 million bucks, hey man – you can’t be mad at that! That’S why that’s why he took 16 minutes to get to the ring man to show everybody – hey yo man, i’m retired after tonight, with all this money.
Oh honestly, great fight, great knockout, definitely one for the books uh tyson with t off on music um yeah.
You know i could see that happening, but i could also see you getting on that inside real good, i think it’d be a great fight.
Definitely be a great fight, but we’re not going to see that man we’re going to get to see.
You soon see the english people support their sportsmen yo.
They do they support.
I was over there.
I was hanging with them.
They get drunk killing somebody i’m serious, but they love their sportsman.
There’S one thing you got to give it to those guys over there candidate, too yeah we get behind her guys, get behind her guys.
Definitely behind there guys all right guys, thanks for tuning in to this week’s episode of the knockout of the week award with our special guest today, tim witherspoon tim.
Thank you again for joining us man, uh yeah.
Thank you for helping us break down this vicious knockout from texas theory.
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