EPISODE: Episode 2
Boxing Hungary | Special Episode | Talkin’ Fight
Joining us on this episode is Andrew Toth from Budapest, to help discuss our on-going exploration of the Olympics to be held in Tokyo 2021, featuring Christian from the Friday Night Panel, and the route to the ring. Watch TalkinFight weekdays at 12, 4, 7, and 8:30pm EST on YouTube or LIVE at talkinfight.com/live @Olympic @IOC Media #Hungary
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Hello there talking fight fans.
Thank you for joining us once again, another episode of olympic boxing.
As you might recall a week or so ago, christian from the friday night panel uh introduced uh.
The fact uh that the british team had uh moved over to hungary to participate in the tournament, so we contacted our hungarian correspondent andrew how you doing andrew and uh.
We asked him and he found out.
We found out some interesting facts about uh hungary, uh the history of boxing there uh and uh two two fighters in particular uh laszlo pop and uh ishtavan kobak, so andrew welcome to our show: apologies uh victory.
Why don’t you take it away? Let us know what you found out: well, first oriole match going on uh right now, it’s it’s! Actually.
It ends on the 13th memorial boxing, it’s from february 17th uh, it’s the elite, men and elite women um, which is going um.
It’S a 65th memorial tournament.
Now, who is he a boxer? He was apparently he’s a historical figure and he was um led some kind of uprising way back in the 1600s.
So that’s who that’s named um, but there are tournaments held throughout the year.
Your calendar later there’s the european uh boxing and and uh.
Oh, was it the aiba iba uh hungarian um association, uh the uh, the more famous box he 51 years old, damn sounds like he’s dropping out there.
Oh sorry, you guys hear me andrew.
I think we.
I think we lost you for just a moment there.
Could you back that up by about 30 seconds or so? Okay, so yes, atlanta in 98 and the bronze in barcelona in 92.
, he also won another bronze in european championships in 93, silver in in his first ever hungarian uh championship and the rest were all gold.
So he’s he’s all solid uh, solid gold, basically uh, two bronze and one silver – and let me just see here about about uh 10 gold, so he’s uh he’s since we’ve, since he’s done that overnight really different.
He was over a couple of different uh weight classes.
Didn’T he if this is who i’m thinking? If he didn’t he did that was it not yeah yeah here here’s featherweight and flyweight against lakeshore, i guess uh yeah.
He did it over three.
Oh three, so lightweight featherweight and they got one here paperweight in hungarian.
I’M not sure, i’m not sure what that would translate to in on in in english, but yeah paperweight, uh, flyweight and featherweight he’s not a a small guy.
He’S 170 centimeters um um, but he did uh.
He did very good and, like i said, he’s now, retired now the biggest um uh famous hungarian boxer, which i, since i was a kid, was a lot castle in hungarian.
He he’s he won a golden three olympic uh.
Three olympic uh um championships are olympic games.
48 in london, 52 in helsinki and 56 in melbourne.
Of course, 56 was the big big event: that’s when they had the blood in the water with the uh, the uh, russia, hungarian, um water polo, but that’s a whole nother story.
He passed away on october 2003, age 1977, yeah we’ve mentioned laszlo on the show here before, actually just because, as you say, he was the first person to ever uh take home three golds from the olympics in consecutive uh olympics kind of thing, so it was one Of the cooler uh people we’ve come across and we’ve definitely mentioned him before.
I was doing some of my own research here, uh and realized that since uh, i think antwerp in 1920 hunga, the hungarians have always qualified.
There hasn’t been a game yet where they have not qualified for uh boxing since antwerp in 1920, which, as we know from another previous episode, is really when they widened the field from basically having the host country box itself for gold medals yeah.
We apparently there’s eight hungarians who took home gold medals.
There was one imra horangi who won the gold medal in berlin in 36.
I think the first gold medalist was anto in 1928 and the last one was actually, i think, it’s 10 golds uh that uh that hungary holds in boxing okay.
Well, i stay corrected well, according to the good figuring wikipedia we’re sitting on twenty total, and ten of them are gold.
Wow, okay, there’s! I know there’s two uh two um silvers, which was in the 70 to the munich olympics, which my father was there um by the way uh.
He was with the olympic team in hungary as a as a chaperone or something, but it’s so that’s again.
That’S a whole nother, another story so but yeah uh kovaci was the last one to win.
I think gold medal in boxing in the olympics, coco coco yeah, that’s his nickname coco.
He was very popular.
I i when you, when you first mentioned them him uh, uh and then yeah.
Of course i could.
How could i not know he was he’s? He was a big, celebrity retired, now uh doing some bit parts and movies and stuff like that.
But i i imagine, he’s he’s enjoying the uh, the life retirement life here in uh in hungary, and you were saying there was an arena named after pap last little pup arena there.
It was built it’s um and not far from my place, um great, which you’ve you visited uh it’s about five trolley stops away, uh, he yeah there’s one named after him.
There’S one named after, of course, the the golden the golden team star on the soccer.
Oh, my god, his name escapes him, but anyway we’re talking boxing so so yeah.
They named the stadium after him because he was one of the bigger sports uh.
Last little pup was one of the bigger sports uh figures in hungary, hungarian history uh the.
How did you, how does your current boxing uh scene look like? Do you have good good amateurs coming up through the ranks? Now there are actually, i did some research on my um in district 13.
Here every district has its own sort of sports club.
Has the uh vasha the uh? Basically, it started off as iron workers sports club and it became a big.
They got soccer hockey even and they have um.
They actually have.
I found out um, after speaking to you the last time that they do have a boxing uh club, also uh, just up the street from you again.
That’S that’s very close, something i need to look into more.
They have kids boxing women boxing adult box boxing and it’s quite.
I can send you a link and show you the pictures of their um uh their their their gym.
It’S quite nice, but they do boxing is apparently it’s it’s it’s quite big here.
Well, we look forward to your participation in the upcoming olympics.
Now uh is it? Did you find the british team um? I know you can’t go to pubs at night and find them, but uh are they in the papers or anything uh? I i didn’t.
I didn’t find anything of them.
I i love the only link they have, which is.
Sadly it’s lacking.
I imagine they’re in debrecen, now they’re having some elite men’s and elite, women’s uh fighting, but there’s um uh, there’s there’s nothing.
I couldn’t really find anything of um recent recent uh.
Obviously nobody’s allowed to go it’s just internet streaming streaming only so they’re, not um.
There are there’s hardly anything on it.
Well, i can probably chime in a little bit on that there, unfortunately, the so far in that tournament, the brits haven’t been doing particularly well uh, with only one uh one medal so far, whereas the hungarians are actually cleaning up they’re, uh they’re, taking they’re taking a Few medals so far, i i should also mention what originally brought this uh tournament to.
Our attention was a story that the bbc had been running, saying that the british team was going, but it’s also worth mentioning as well that canada did also send our national team as well.
We found that out afterwards, uh.
Actually, you may have mentioned just yesterday.
We mentioned uh, we did a bit of a piece on mandy bujold, who actually was at that tournament and recently took a bronze there having lost to uh.
I haven’t lost to the quarterfinals uh, sorry fight to uh jyoti of india, who went on take silver in that weight category yeah.
There we go yeah there.
You go andrew yeah, now you’re up to speed.
Well, that’s the only canadian who’s meddled so far.
We we actually send eight.
We send eight to the uh to that tournament, but uh mandy so far is uh, our biggest medal, hope uh, both there and at the olympics.
So far, so uh the curiosity and other teams uh.
Well, i mean i’ve got the uh results from the results from.
I was just wondering if there’s any other teams that sent like, was it an international or is it an international or was it a select kind of field? Well, this is an international, oh okay, all right! So you know you saw pretty strong contingents from uh.
You know, uh, the russians.
The kazakhstan sent a fair, a number of people as well: um india, a handful of fighters from india, france uh sent a handful as well.
The irish were there, the spanish i’m just looking at medalists at this point, obviously there’s more than that um, but yeah.
This was an international and a fairly well attended.
It’S a in european boxing.
This is a this.
This tournament’s a big deal, so i guess it kind of set the mold for how the olympics will process athletes not only through an international border but participation wise as well, because, remember you were saying once you want you, you’ve gone as far as you can get Boop out you go, you have 48 hours to clear out of the olympic village after you’re laughing, because you’re you’re under curfew right now is that is that right, you’re still under curfew, right andrew in hungary, yeah curfew, starts at 8.
Until 5 00 a.
m, uh you can get on it.
If you’re working, if you’re, not working, you have to be off.
The street shops have to be closed by 7 p.
Everybody can eat you know, but of course uh.
You know if you have a note from your employer boss or if your dog, you can walk your dog after 500 meters from your home yeah yeah, but uh yeah.
I know it’s um yeah the pubs articles.
I was actually in an irish pub yesterday and they had all tvs up.
I was talking to the owner and it’s um.
They don’t think up here until may, but uh uh beckett’s club here is um pop.
It’S venue for for um football uh.
Even people would line up in previous years to watch super bowl there.
They have several big screens.
Okay, this super bowl wasn’t much to watch anyway, all right.
Well, i really look forward to getting back to budapest.
It’S a it’s a great city.
It’S a beautiful city! Right on the danube, we had a lot a lot of fun.
There lots to do lots to see uh.
We want to thank you once again for joining us, andrew and hope you can join us sometime in the near future to give us a report back on uh, what’s happening not only in that tournament, but then the upcoming tournaments uh, any final words there.
Christian uh, just you know we’re looking forward to uh, seeing how the final days of this tournament are going to roll out, because this is going to give us a bit of a preview on what our possible olympic cards might look like uh.
Because, as you all remember, the european qualifier was halted on day four of the tournament, so we’re still waiting on phase two.
So some of the people that we’re going to see fighting in those qualifiers would have been at this tournament as well.
So it’s going to give us a bit of an idea on who’s who and who’s doing what in european boxing.
Obviously we had some outsiders as well uh the canadians were there a few from india as well.
So it wasn’t straight european boxing, but i think it’s going to help at least give us a bit of an idea of what we can expect in the phase two of the european qualifiers so looking forward to it.
Thank you any final words there, andrew before you sign off uh, no i’ll, just i’ll look some more into this uh this event and also see what else is coming up in the summer find out which hungarian athletes are going uh.
Hopefully there will be some but um i’ll, follow up with on that and i’ll get back to you guys i’ll.
Let you know what i found out: okay, thanks very much, and i appreciate our viewers from uh joining us today as well from around the world to have a sneaky preview into hungary and see what’s happening down there.
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