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EPISODE: Episode 2
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[, Music ], damn uh, [, Music ], it’s friday night at summertime.
Here we are friday night panel, my court, four grand voice in the house.
We’Ve got the president panel rocking and rolling.
You can see all of our guests lined up we’re ready to talk about the fights of the night.
Again.
Definitely definitely talking about the fights.
We got lots of fights this weekend uh starting off tonight tonight we have barbosa versus zarilla uh, this one’s about to get underway, starting at 9 p.
m: uh, southern california, 140, pound standout, arnold barboza junior, wanted the main event spotlight and he’s getting that opportunity to shine When he takes on puerto rican, contender danielito el zorro zarilla in a rounder junior welterweight showdown tonight, guys so be on the lookout for this one.
Tokyo 2020, us olympic silver, medalist, keyshawn davis and richard torres jr will return on the card with davis battling jair.
Casir valatira in an eight-round lightweight co-feature torres will open the televised broadcast in a six-round heavyweight special attraction versus roberto zelva um.
This one.
I can’t wait.
Man uh, the you know: barboza 26-0, 10 knockouts from south el monte.
California is a nine-year pro who is closing in on a world title shot following a series of headline grabbing victories in april 2019.
He knocked out former world champion mike alvardo in three rounds.
Um, a resounding los angeles homecoming that solidified him as a top contender barboza has won five belts since securing one-sided victories over ricky cismundo, william silva tony lewis, alex cecido and antonio moran uh.
You know he comes back following an 11 month layoff.
The second longest of his career he’s ranked number eight by the wbo number 11 by the db.
Wbc barboza hopes um to win this with a dominating win over his unbeaten foe, and you know we’ll you know: it’ll earn him that long time awaited title opportunity.
Then he got zarilla man who’s.
You know unbeaten as well he’s 16 and over 12 knockouts.
He is a native of toa baja, puerto rico, uh.
You know he had more than a hundred victories before turning pro with a second round knockout in november of 2016.
, the 28 year old is ranked number 10 by the wbo at 140.
.
Uh has diced, through his opposition in the paid ranks with 11 knockouts in three rounds or less.
He went 2-0 in 2021, edging past ruslan madayev in march and knocking out former interim world champion pablo cesar cannell in two rounds in september uh renaissance man, who has an associate degree in banking and cuts hair out of his home base barber shop zarilla can cut Past the line of contenders with a victory over barboza tonight guys be on the lookout for this one.
Then our men, davis, keyshawn 5-0, four knockouts, the fighting prodigy from norfolk virginia, has been on a whirlwind ride to stardom over the past year plus in february 2021.
He turned pro on a canelo alvarez undercard in miami fought on another canelo card at atnt stadium in texas, earned his olympic silver medal, signed a multi-year promotional contract with top rank and made his top-ranked debut in december, with a second round knockout at madison square garden.
He fought april 30th on oscar valdez shakur stevenson card at mgm, grand knocking out mexican veteran esteban sanchez in six rounds and then valerta who’s 16 and one with eight knockouts from leon.
Mexico is a four-year pro who previously held the wbc latino lightweight title last august.
He suffered an upset knockout loss against alberto ruiz ibera uh.
Three months later he got back onto that winning track with a convincing 10-round decision over argentina’s javier javier, jose calervo.
So guys this is a good card on tonight.
Make sure you want to watch this one.
You know we got richard torres back in action.
You know another olympic olympic medalist here man, definitely one to watch out, for he came out with that.
Wonderful debut uh! You know in his first might knock the guy out real quick, real deal.
I’M super excited for this one.
Graham.
What are you feeling about these fights man uh, you know what i really like about.
These fights is the uh, the puerto rican versus mexican standoff.
It always seems to be apparent when, when you talk about these latin american fighters going up against each other, you can’t avoid it.
You can’t escape it.
These guys, obviously don’t like each other.
I don’t know why, but uh it.
I don’t know it’s kind of like uh when we talk about the uh, the american heavyweights versus the british heavyweights, or the canadians versus the anyway uh that that’s what i do like about these latin american fights is is the rivalries that exist between the two nationalities.
Specifically puerto ricans, specifically the mexicans, i’m sure there’s others in the mix, but i’m just saying like whenever i hear these cards and i look at the lineups and i go wow, that’s gon na be a great fight.
That’S gon na be a great fight.
Why? Because this, this nationalistic hatred, that that fuels their passion that fuels their intensity and and we as the fans get to really enjoy something uh, you know at a real honest level.
Definitely definitely i agree.
I agree with that.
Uh also on this card guys look out for stephen sorry, stephen shaw.
We profiled him this week.
Also floyd diaz is on the card.
Austin brooks both these guys.
You know young hungry, undefeated men sporting, these 5-0 6-0 record looking to stay undefeated.
So you know the undercard is going to be lined up with lots of action.
Definitely great fight to watch tonight.
So guys make sure you set your clocks.
Man 9 p.
m.
This one kicks underway, then we’re moving on to tomorrow.
We got some great fights uh for tomorrow.
I’M super excited for this one.
We got the garcia and fortuna and we got the shiraz and pores cards uh before we get before sorry.
Did you see the quote from garcia about eating his heart? No, i did not.
Please tell me this.
I haven’t seen him in in brief i’ll paraphrase, i’m gon na knock him out and eat his heart.
Almost almost a recall of mike tyson’s, i’m going to eat his children, [ Laughter, ], so yeah, so so going back going back to like, shall we say, rivalries bitter hatreds.
I mean obviously garcia for two that do not like each other and i’m looking forward to this one big time.
Me too me too uh before we get to watch that one though we got ta uh, we got ta touch on the hamza shiraz returns to the ring.
That’S right! That’S right! Superbox arena on the night that includes a british title, double feature both lennox clark and nick ball.
Uh shiraz, you know he’s 15-0 11 knockouts continues his quest and middleweight with the defense of his wbc international silver.
Title won last time out via defeat against g smith.
Against argentinian francisco emmanuel torres who’s, 17, 3 and 1 with 5 kos over 10 rounds, this one’s gon na be great man.
Then we got lennox clark 20 in one, and one with eight knockouts makes his first defense of his british and commonwealth middleweight titles against another big banger in oldham’s mark hefron, who is 27 2 and 1 with 21 kos in what is certain to be a mighty Collision with the ibf intercontinental championship belt also on the line, then we also have the wbc sorry wbc silver featherweight championship is up for grabs here.
Nick ball, nathaniel caccolo cacklolo uh this one’s going to be this one’s, going to be great man, 12 3 minute rounds at 126.
for the wbc silver featherweight championship.
Then we got dennis mccann taking on james beats junior for the vacation, the the menace mccann.
Yes, the vacant wbc international silver featherweight championship up for grabs ten three minute rounds at 124.
, gon na be a good one, good one man also.
We got super featherweight contest ryan, garner, taking on christian lopez torres.
We also got pierce o’leary profiled him this week.
In the super light contest taking on robin zamora and then we also have another light heavy contest carol, atuma taking on michael gazdick uh, then we also have masood abdallah taking on t uh tinko ben benaka benabakov.
That was a hard one to do there uh.
Definitely some great action on this card uh, so this one starts 2 p.
m.
I believe eastern standard time for us so yeah be on the lookout for this one to be exciting.
Actually, i’m super excited for this one and that’s 2pm.
I forget who the promoter is on that one who who’s the promoter? The promoter is it’s not it’s not top right.
The promoter is frank, warren queensberry promotions.
You can see that on united kingdom bt sports, definitely great one man, lennox car linux, clark mark efron headline in this one.
You know we got a bunch of titles up for grabs, a lot of great upping coming uh.
You know fighters on this one man uh.
I’M super excited to see this one umar khan, caroline tuma masood, abdullah, pierce, o’leary, ryan, garner.
All these guys, undefeated looking to stay undefeated so guys be on beyond point man and definitely tune in to watch this one out of the uk 2pm eastern standard time, guys now, graham, we can start talking about the one that you’re you’re, i guess you’re super excited For which would be uh, the garcia fortuna yeah definitely definitely a great card, guys love to see ryan get back in the ring.
Man he’s 22-0 18 knockouts of victoriaville.
California will make his second appearance of the year facing former two-time world champion javier fortuna, who is 37-3-1 with 27 knockouts.
The 12-round lightweight fight will take place on saturday july 16th and we’ll stream live worldwide exclusively on the zone.
This is going to be a very exciting fight.
I know it didn’t take place last year like originally announced, but i hope that this time it will be real so that we can see this great show man.
I i can’t wait, can’t wait get this one under the you know, get this one on the go.
Definitely a great card, some great undercard fighters on here man we got out.
We got out.
Sorry.
Sorry, sorry, sorry! Just for my viewers sake, i have reversed it’s for tuna, who said he’s gon na eat, garcia’s heart! Sorry, oh, it’s! Okay! Apologies to ryan, garcia! There uh have you ever having.
I i’m just i’m just looking at it now, because if one one of our fans send it to me and gum, and it’s in there going oops hey there, he is.
Can you hear me? Yes, we get what’s going on all right cool all right.
I was about to go over to my phone and it just came in all right, excellent, we’re touching on the garcia for tuna card man.
Tomorrow, night yeah i was listening.
I was listening to everything.
Okay, i couldn’t get on just yet, but yeah.
Definitely.
Actually.
This is gon na, be a good one man.
I can’t wait to see this one you know uh ring magazine has said javier fortuna is a dangerous lightweight contender, with a lot to prove on this one man.
You know the 33 year old southpaw is a former two-time world champ who previously held the wba interim featherweight world championship and the wba what uh super featherweight world championship fortune.
It was last seen in a spectacular first round stoppage of rafael hernandez in santo domingo uh.
This past february and we’ll be looking to have another spectacular performance when he faces ryan garcia tomorrow night man, this one is a 12-round.
This is tomorrow right, yeah, this one’s tomorrow night.
That’S what i thought i was.
I was checking it out.
I seen it come through on dance and i was like okay, i i was busy.
I didn’t look at it too quickly, but uh tomorrow, yeah, i think it’s to be great for uh ryan, garcia he’s got to get back in it uh.
You know he.
He has to he has to shine, so this is great and um he’s got to build that fight.
If he wants to have that payday exactly.
I know whether he’s going up against devon or he’s going to go up against tank.
He wants to keep his uh credentials good, so he can make that payday man.
So it’s i like to see him come out here and get a quick win.
Quick yeah me too me too.
That’S what i’d like to see i’d like to see him come in, get the quick win, get it over with, and you know start prepping to uh to fight one of these uh.
You know one of these elites and uh yeah, because because you know the confidence is dead, that’s all you, that’s all he’s fighting for is his confidence and it gets confidence strong and then all right, let’s, let’s start making some noise because he had to take a Step back a little bit and that’s all right, all right, we’re done with that.
We moved on from that.
So stay busy and win impressively.
That’S what’s going to do it for him and and be consistent about it.
Definitely that sounds like a title of a book.
[ Laughter, ] there’s a lot of knowledge in that book.
Uh also on this card, man uh be on the lookout for the lamont roach versus uh angel rodriguez fight uh.
This one should uh this one should impress man.
You know: lamont wrote super feather 22 1-1 singing on angel rodriguez, who’s, 21-0 and uh honestly uh.
This one should be a good one.
Man, i’ve followed lamont roach, the guy’s, very talented fighter man uh, also oscar uh collazo who’s 4-0, taking on victor louder, who’s, 21-5-0.
So this is definitely a step up fight for oscar.
So you know what you know: he’s gon na come to win this one and that is in the minimum weight.
So uh.
You know these small guys, man, they can really uh.
They can really fly and throw a million punches around so definitely going to be an exciting fight, and then you know alexis roca.
Uh is fighting for the vacant.
Wbo naval welter title against louis alberto vernon, who is sporting a record right now of 19 4 and 2.
uh yeah this one.
I can’t wait.
That’S gon na be it’s gon na.
Be great, can’t wait to see this one get underway.
This one starts 9 p.
m.
Uh eastern standard time, guys you’ll be able to see that uh on the zone as well.
Well, you know what i tell you what um you know.
I had somebody talk to me about this earlier today about the little guys i had a fighter.
He weighed about uh 129 and he was like.
Are you guys going to do that with celebrity making of a champion uh boxing reality show and i was like well, you know.
That’S.
He made a great point i was like.
Well, i don’t know, i know we’re gon na.
Do you know as as we go as we go and as we grow um? I wouldn’t see.
Why not? Because i want to push for that, because these young i mean these these little weight classes.
It gives you what boxing needs.
What boxes like to see? That’S why the woman is so.
This is so interesting because they come up there and fight they’re gon na.
Do what two minutes they’re doing four rounds.
You know that fighters don’t warm up until after four rounds anyway, so the way the pace is and now so the way box is being fought right now the pace is about to change a little bit, and it’s about to pick up it’s about to be a Little faster and what i mean by being a little faster, i mean like okay, yeah, you know you.
If you do in this pro tournament, celebrity making of a champion boxing all right.
They might do four four rounds or five rounds.
You know what i’m saying and it might be three minutes.
This is fast-paced uh pro boxing and it’s not easy.
You have to be a special individual to be able to come in here and and and dominate that because it’s a whole new different mindset.
You know i mean of the way you have to fight now, yeah, because amateur fighting is like that, so anybody, so so it should eliminate right.
What i’m saying is that it should eliminate uh the amateur syndrome where oh, he was a great amateur, but when he transitioned to pro he sucked and he lost his career, he just couldn’t adapt yeah not nowadays.
Now not.
What we fought to go into nowadays will be a little more different.
It’S going to be it’s going to be way a little more difficult, you’re going to have to you know the way these ways the waiting rounds are going.
The way everything’s going you’re going to have to pick it up a little bit yeah, so it so it should go after two rounds.
Fight is getting ready to fight honestly yeah hey can i can i interject for just re great point.
James, listen uh, two two great examples: this past week, uh boxer bo xxer out of the uk.
I believe uh put on a tournament every year to determine, if you will, those guys who are ready to graduate from amateur to the pro ranks and that yeah and that’s very similar to what you’re talking about in in terms of like fast-paced.
You know there’s no time for mistakes if you will, and only the cream rises, the top, but also in in mexico uh they have what’s it called the bwcs.
I can’t remember what it’s called exactly but down in sonora mexico.
They have an exact same challenge where every single i believe it’s every single month they put on a tournament to determine who is the best uh boxer at uh, so we’re we’re typically always talking about the cruiserweights, the heavyweights light heavyweights.
But these guys are talking about the featherweights, the lightweights, and these guys are equally as exciting.
Equally as great punters uh as quite frankly, the filipinos has taught us like you know.
So what you’re saying is absolutely correct.
I’M i’m saying it’s absolutely needed in boxing today to prove to the boxes it’s balanced.
We need that balance.
You know that bounce that 80s had that balance a little bit because they did uh debut there.
You know you got to see jeff chandler, the bantamweights.
You got to see these guys fight, you know what i mean, because these guys are exciting.
They throw 100 pounds, i mean 100 um, 100 100 hands and 100 hands a minute and they’re doing it for long periods of time and and and it’s not it’s not a dull moment.
There’S no chestnuts you’re going down exactly you see.
You see the art of boxing, for what is for for, like mike tyson, wants to show you the way he did his combinations.
The way he did everything you see all these all these come together same thing with the lightweights.
You see that in the fight you know that it’s not just mike tyson doing it, but the opponent.
Is he running it back? You know what i’m saying.
So you see you get to see the real art of boxing when you’re able to come out here and you’re able to do a hundred hundred punches around.
You know 200 rounds.
That’S ridiculous! What if a middleweight was doing 200 pounds 200 punches around whatever everybody would do that he you couldn’t beat the guy he’s gon na out, beat you eventually either on points or you’re gon na get tired one or two, but this guy trained that way, and that’s The only way you could it happens because it could be done, that’s a you know.
What that’s why i find the the small weights super exciting man is that volume punching like you want to see.
You want to see great great technical boxing and you want to see a thousand punches combined uh between two fighters.
You definitely want to watch these small guys because they’re gon na go out there they’re gon na pump out.
You know five six hundred seven hundred shots each for their fight and it’s crazy because you know out of that they’re still hitting you know 25 to save 45 percent of landing.
So you know they’re landing half of what they’re throwing.
So these guys, you get to see how it’s done and you get to see how it’s done.
Well, yes, at a fast pace, how you throw those combinations? How you put those combinations, you really get to see the combinations at work.
You know i’m saying, and it’s great to see i love to see a fight when i watch a fight, i like to say a knockout.
That comes not why somebody just hit him one time.
I want to see that combo.
You know i like that, because to me that’s like yo that that’s how you that’s, how you get the job done, yeah you want! You want to see.
You want to see him finish, a guy where you know he’s been knocked out and woken up twice before he hits the mat knock him out.
Wake him up, knock him out again: yeah yeah! That’S what you want to see.
You want to see those ones me too man.
I love that.
It’S great, that’s the truth! That’S what everybody loved about mike tyson when he mike tyson coming in he throw those combos dude is done.
You know what i’m saying and the funny part about everything is that if you do it correctly, that’s what will happen yeah you teaching you teaching all these people that don’t really know too much about boxing or some of them think they know everything about boxing.
All that [ __ ] don’t work or it don’t work really.
Okay, you know: okay, okay, yeah, this stuff works.
You know for the for those young kids out there.
That’S watching that! Don’T think that this stuff – hey, if you put it, if you can see it and you can and you can work it doug, that’s got that what is what’s going to happen like mike, he put those punches together, that’s old school custom model, and i that’s where I come from so uh.
I love to see it when it goes down like that love it.
I love it.
I just makes me love boxing even more and to know that that’s the realest realism in boxing is how you’ve been trained.
Definitely so if one of you might like one sec yeah, i just want to touch them.
So there was a great quote out of uh donates the uh, the filipino boxer, who, when i got against the japanese box aoka this week and he lost he had his loss.
But what he said was he said i would have rather have gotten in closer and been able to land more punches, but i wasn’t able to get in close enough.
So it’s interesting that uh, you know here.
Here’S a boxer who’s fully prepared to get in there and go toe-to-toe uh, but he met a defense.
He wasn’t quite prepared for so so there’s a good example and it wasn’t, it wasn’t uh, it might have been featherweight, but the point matter is is like uh.
These guys know how to box, and then these are fans out here who need to appreciate this too.
I mean it’s not just bam.
Bam.
Bam.
Bam bam bam one after the other i mean there are ways to technically avoid being hit, and i i think uh canelo alvarez may be the perfect example.
One of the examples definitely one of the examples of not being heads for sure.
Okay, i got one question to ask you mike yeah, all right and one question: why are they putting your boy tim zoo against child against charlo right now, tim zoom is not ready for this fight.
No, i know this.
I know this no he’s not ready.
Yet man he’s not ready for that man.
I know i’m gon na.
Let you finish honestly, i i, i believe that he needs.
He definitely needs more, more exposure.
Uh.
You know he hasn’t.
He hasn’t fought too many times, but it’s hard to get.
Oh, you need that nah.
This is for the money, because exposure come on man see.
The thing is that he’s he’s only wait, so wait.
A second wait.
A second mike mike mike was like yeah james.
A year ago, a year ago we exposed the charlo brothers.
Remember remember mike nobody.
Nobody really knew about it.
Now, all of a sudden they’re on the scene and challenging the australian champion, give me a break.
I mean, of course, tim, of course, tim’s going to take this fight.
Why would he turn it down? Well, i i know that but listen, but the child was a little bit too much too slick for him.
I i don’t know it’s shallow with some power.
If he could catch chalo with some power, then then okay, but if tyler blocks this boy and use his skills like he’s supposed to, because he’s aware he’s a way better fighter than than tim hands down.
You know what i’m saying, but his style might not be, but his his is his intellect.
He knows he.
I mean this.
This is an easy fight for him.
The way i look at it, i don’t think tim is ready for that tim keeps it he.
He does too many mistakes, but he’s got a good power, though, if he, if you mess around and catch shallow, he won’t survive.
I guarantee you that that’s how that fight’s going to go watch what i’m telling you honestly tim’s only had one fight outside of his country, and that was his last one against terrell uh.
Was it uh, gaussian gauche uh? I think it is and that one went 12 rounds like that was unanimous decision win, but you know who is this guy? Didn’T he get knocked down in that fight? He went down.
He went down in that fight too yeah.
Why did he go down? He made a lot of mistakes honestly, i think i think, for tim you know yeah sure come over here.
Uh, you know fight fight, fight, internationally fight.
You know in america fight in the uk.
You know fight all over the world, but you know get some warm-up.
Competition before you start trying to you know, challenge champions, you’re right, you you, you are right mike mike because wait a second i just noticed.
I just know it’s not until january 2023, like yeah, that’s sort of yeah all right! Well, okay: he’s got a lot of time for this fight.
You want to roll the dice on him, hey to me, he’s not ready for that.
I’M just saying he’s not ready for that.
It’S like it’s like davey, moore, fighting, roberto, duran dawg.
It’S like jake paul, fighting, uh uh, bro uh.
I ran uh iran, junior man.
You know what i’m saying that that’s what that’s he’s coming to rockman yeah.
We got a question.
One of our viewers that just came in can heavyweight boxing be popular like nfl and nba, or baseball in america if it was pushed properly hell, yeah hello, take it take a look at the muhammad ali days when 90 million people around the world would watch on Television for free, they would know the fans would know who was the heavyweight champion of the world period back in those days.
So if you put, if you put boxing back on a platform where it’s available to the public or the public, exposed to it and promote it to the public properly not to zone, oh we’re, gon na show it to a hundred thousand people.
Therefore, a hundred thousand people can know that.
No, if you put it on television back where it belongs, absolutely is the answer that question absolutely yeah, i believe so too man, i believe.
Yes, it can be if it’s pushed properly if it’s marketed the right way.
Yes, it will gain its popularity once again in america for sure uh.
I think i think the the mma days have uh have.
You know run its course, and you know everybody jumping over to just watch that boxing has repopularized itself and you know, with the help of you, know: people like conor mcgregor, jumping in the boxing ring to uh.
You know try that out for a bit definitely uh they’re, trying to regain popularity in in the us, and i think it’s working and then now with you know the youtubers taking a liking to this uh.
It’S you know, it’s put it out to a whole different generation of fans, so yeah it’s definitely getting marketed right.
It is being pushed properly and yes, it’s going to be super popular in the us in the future for sure it’s already gaining popularity.
Absolutely, let’s! Let sorry, sir james, let me let me add one quick factor to what mike was saying so yeah, but we’ve got.
We’Ve got the historic platform of boxing in its classic form, okay, which is appreciated for what it is.
The sweet science, okay, but we now have the jake pauls of the world migrating to a brand new audience, but more than that, we have women who are coming out of their fitness classes wanting to enter the ring and these gals are putting on farms.
I i hate to say it, but i saw some some bare-knuckle boxing the other day featuring women that knocked my socks off.
I could not believe it.
I watched the same thing you watching.
I watched the same thing you watch it.
I see the same thing and uh it it’s crazy! How how that’s? Why i’m saying that you know the pace of boston and and the things things that’s going on with boxing right now: uh we’re in a transition game right now in boxing and it’s great and and i i give um you know, i give praise to jake paul And uh, and i knew what i knew, what he was doing from day: one uh, it’s just like when you bring up a fighter when you first bring up a fight, he’s got to fight those uh tomato cans and then he then gets past the tomato cans.
He’S got to fight the journeymen, then he gets past the journeyman now he’s in limelight a little bit now he can start you know.
Seeing who can you know who he can make money with? You know so? Uh jake paul did the same thing.
He came out there.
He fought a lot of bums yeah.
Who cares, but that’s what you’re supposed to do now he’s in he’d have made progress on his own terms, made progress.
Now you say: okay, i i want to fight, for you know a title.
I want to see if i really can do this, because that’s what he’s trying to do his goal is to prove to people that he can become a fighter a real fighter.
So i thought i thought.
Maybe you know he went out to rock when i was like okay, that’s kind of risky, but maybe you know something that i don’t.
Maybe you, because you’ve been training or doing whatever you’re doing to keep staying tight.
Okay, you picked he’s got the money to buy the best trainers if he wins this fight.
If he wins this fight, it’s going to be all it’s.
It he’s going to blow up he’s going to go ahead.
He’S going to fight for that championship, he’s going to succeed, watch him challenge and he’s going to do it he’s going to prove everybody wrong, he’s like look, but he really, but he didn’t do anything, that’s surprising to anybody that knows the boxing world.
He i mean in order to become a real fighter.
That’S what you do.
They did it to mike tyson.
They.
They grew mike tyson like that.
That’S how you grow your fighter and jake paul just grew himself.
The way he wanted to do it, but he was serious about it.
It looked like it was all clown and it’s all playing games, but jake.
He was real about this [ __ ] and that’s what he’s trying to tell you guys that he’s real about what he’s trying to do, and i can see that from a mile away and i got to give him props on that.
Definitely another question.
Another question come in: do you think adding cheerleaders in boxing would be a good idea.
We have ring girls, so don’t we already have that um? That’S! Well! That’S the cheerleadings right yeah! That’S what i’d say.
I see the ringer.
You got records.
That’S that compounds the ring card.
Definitely definitely sorry what was what was the actual question? Uh? Do you think adding cheerleaders in boxing would be a good idea? No, no! No, who else like i said, we got the ring card.
Girls and those are our cheerleaders.
They just don’t have pom-poms, they got ring cards, we don’t need them, we don’t have those you know who we have.
We have guys like eddie hearn, there’s a cheerleader.
You guys are bad for that yo.
But i got ta say one thing i got.
I got ta say one thing is cedric uh explores training, yeah um, you know i i i agree with him.
Charlo beats to do because he has more experience.
That’S what cedric’s saying i believe the same uh.
I think i think honestly tim should have uh.
Definitely uh, you know test the waters with some other options.
He going to be opponent, you don’t say with a name like that: you’re not you’re, not supposed to set yourself up to be opponent.
Unless you’re coming to win.
Unless you’re going to win this [ __ ], so we’re going to find out how you approached it.
If you get knocked out early rounds, oh man, okay, it happens yeah, but 99 of the chance.
You just took that fight just because you want to be that opponent yeah.
You know you got paid that way.
You know you.
I mean, because that that’s a perfect opponent for charlo.
Definitely, we definitely voted for china.
Here’S the reality.
We we we uh talk.
If i really like charlotte brothers, okay, without a doubt, we’ve promoted them since day, one when no one believed in them, okay, and they were just badass other than boys, but at the end of the day.
Okay, this fight with with tim zu he’s, that’s not taking place seven months from now seven months, seven months, there’s going to be a lot of preparation involved in that fight.
So i’m not i’m not confident in saying charlo is going to win as much as i like him, and you know i do mike as much as i like him in seven months.
Time does tim have a chance absolutely well.
That remains to be seen, and it’s all good uh i just it’s – i mean i ain’t get.
I can’t say that it can’t happen because anything is possible, get in trouble.
It’S going to be tough man.
You know i mean i like casa, zoo myself.
I just think he’s just taking this.
I think he’s moving a little too fast on this one.
So that’s my yeah, you know but, like you said mike, he got a chance.
You know you got a chance.
He’S.
Just gon na have to watch a lot yeah.
He has a great chance and if he comes in like he’s supposed to – and he used these several months wisely and he fixed some some of those mistakes – yeah hey, you know anything can happen man.
You know you have another question.
We have another question: do you think that they should add golden trophy to boxing, just like nfl and nba, to make things more interesting? No, there’s already too much damn awards to win in boxing we got ta get rid of them.
Let’S have just one belt: how about that? Let’S just have one not not like what like how many we got now, there’s there’s what four or five belts? Six, that’s that’s the major sanctioning bodies.
Then you got, you know your regionals, your provincials, your state, your freaking, like what fans got to understand too, is that every belt that you have the fighter got to pay like you know, wbc worth 300.
000.
yeah man.
You know what i’m saying so you got ta pay a lot of money.
You see a champion running around with all the belts he got.
Ta pay a lot of money for them every sanctioning body, every single sanctioning body.
Every time they wan na fight for the title, sanctioning body gets paid every single time by both opponents by both so yeah man.
No, we don’t, i don’t think we need any more kind of trophies or anything.
The trophy you want is the green one.
That’S what everybody wants.
That’S what everybody’s after that, wbc green, strap! That’S what every every fighting! I think i don’t mind, i don’t mind.
Four belts is cool.
All right! You keep it interesting.
You want! You want people to you want fighters to it.
Just have to have it just has to happen.
Often you want people to say.
Okay put your title up, unify the title: okay, had a guy fight, everybody, you fighting everybody, you will find a title now you fighting this person, you fighting that person you doing that.
You putting these belts on a lot show that it ain’t about who can hoard the belts the longest there’s a lot of money to go around man come on.
You ain’t fit to hold it.
That long then give it up.
Definitely those fans out there who may be basketball fans, take a look at what happened when the nba acquired the aba, the aba had a lot of innovation in the sport at the time.
I’M talking about basketball sport, not american boxing association.
The aba had a lot of innovation at the time uh and the nba took it over commercialized.
It look what you have today.
You have a very popular sport.
What i’m saying is is, conversely, that can happen in boxing as well.
I think i think what saying is absolutely correct: there’s absolutely two there’s there’s too much money being put into the what they call the alphabet, the alphabet, whatever it’s called, you know what i mean, there’s just too much money being fed in that direction like, let’s just Say, let’s just say the three of us put a million dollars on the line and said who is the world champion and at the end of the year, a year from now, we determine based on whatever number of victories number points, whatever that guy who wins? The million bucks is gon na sit there and go.
I’M the world champion.
He’S not gon na give a [ __ ].
How many belts he’s got he’s he’s got a million bucks in his pocket.
He says i’m the world champion, no doubt, but they you know and plus of these organizations.
They don’t do a lot for the fighters so uh.
If you’re collecting all this money for the fighters, then why don’t you have a certain type of pension for the fighter? Why don’t you have one uh? Why don’t you have any type of insurance for the fighter? It’S something else: pensions.
He gets in trouble in the ring and something happens.
And now you know the fighter, don’t got nothing.
He just [ __ ] up.
He was a world champion.
He paid this organization all this money just to have this belt.
It’S got to be more more than just a belt.
This is saying ain’t about it, ain’t all about the [ __ ] belt.
It’S all about your health, it’s all about! Being taken care of this is a job that you put your life on the line.
You know what i’m talking about.
This is serious.
So, therefore, with all these organizations taking all these money wbc, you know what do you guys got to be proud about you’re, not helping boxing you’re, not doing this you’re, not making anything easier for any of the promoters or anybody you’re just taking the money walking away With it, there was a great story this week that uh tyson fury put it on the line he said.
Listen i may be the biggest baddest champ in the world right now, but i’ll admit deontay wilder probably can cuss me in that last fight.
So am i really done i might be done, because my health is more important to me right now than a million bucks.
So that’s what it’s got to be about it’s bigger than it’s bigger than that.
You know why it’s just like.
He wanted to come back and fight, and i know his people was like for what you’re finished you’re done and get your health back together.
That’S the most important thing man see carl’s, like carl, just dropped a comment saying: isn’t it the responsibility of the boxer to invest wisely? Yes, but what, if you’re one of those boxers that doesn’t make a whole lot of money and you’re literally living fight to fight to pay your bills and your mortgage and everything? How can you invest if you’re, using that money to buy diapers and food and pay the mortgage and pay your car and child support and ex-wife, and all this kind of crap? There has to be something that these sanctioning bodies are taking a part of that purse and putting it in to an account so that, when these guys retire, when they go to retire, that they can collect some sort of pension to take care of them afterwards, with Their you know their their bills and and health care, and all that kind of stuff there should be something in place.
I understand it is up to the fighters to do it, but let’s be real man they’re fighters, not even that mike the nfl.
Does it every professional sport does it, you know say so to to put it on top of the fight is like come on.
Really they could do that.
They they make enough money to do it uh, you know and friday’s got it.
Friday’S got to get savvy on their own and, and you know, get in touch with their managers on a lot of other things as well, because the manager has a job to do too.
So if the manager uh is doing his job and does him doing what he’s supposed to do it, it takes a lot of weight off the fighter as well.
You know, but as far as these boxing um as far as the alphabet gang hey, you know they have to, i would like for them to do more, put more into boxing prizes.
Insurance wise, like you know, come up with some plans.
You guys make enough money to do that.
You know and then it’s after the fighter, because nowadays you can go to if you’re a big time fighter you you, i mean you’re, making all this money hey.
Why not go to uh insurance company? Get your insurance um, get you an insurance plan and dump most of your money in in your insurance plan.
Then you become your own bank and whenever you want to take money out of there, you could take money out of it without the penalties, without none of that, you know, and you and the money that you still keep in in in the insurance plan – hey.
It’S still, it’s still accumulating money.
You know you’re still going to make money, and that’s that’s like the best way to go that that i would tell fridays right now uh what to do.
You know exactly what i’ll tell them? It’S your experience, plan carl made another good point.
It is difficult to bring in a pension scheme when you’re crossing borders.
You know when you’re traveling outside and you know, international competition.
It would be hard uh and he said that’s what the organization that’s what these body and sanctions should happen.
It has to be a world a world organization for like pension.
It would have to be like a world pension fund for professional boxing and, honestly, you know the difference between boxing and other sports governing bodies are fragmented.
Yes, carl, i agree with you too.
They are fragmented too much too much.
This is it’s it’s something that remember.
Tim has been talking to us about they’ve, there’s, there’s plans in you know in the works of trying to start you know a union and and a pension fund for boxers that are retired.
You know for all these young guys out there all these young fighters, you know, take care of the guys that paved the way for you to make these millions remember the fighters back in the day.
You know they were getting in the ring they weren’t making.
10, 20, 30 million dollars a fight they’re, making a couple hundred thousand you know, and then, by the time your manager takes his cut.
Your promoter takes his cut, your cup, man takes his cut and then you know you get your yours and you’re like oh [, __ ] wait a minute.
Now i got two ex-wives six kids.
I got bentley car payment.
You know like there’s.
There’S nothing left, there’s nothing left.
So there’s got to be something for these old guys.
Man who, who literally now can’t hold a sentence.
You know can’t can’t can’t even fathom what’s going on in their mind, you know being being concussed.
So much has done so much damage to them that you know they’re they’re they’ve become useless, useless people in society.
They can’t do anything.
You know they can’t rely on their boxing skills that made the money that they are, and you know made them who they are.
Uh, they can’t rely on that anymore to uh.
You know start going to a local gym and start teaching and and having students pay.
You know we got to take care of these guys man, they paved the way for the young guys.
We’Ve got to take care of the men and i wish these young guys would get on board and you know start saying something about it.
No doubt i think it’s in the making so it’ll happen sooner or later it will it’s gon na happen.
Well guys, i don’t know you guys want to talk about any more topics we got fights to watch.
I know that yeah and i i’m getting ready to get out of here all right, because i got some studying to do.
Yes, i have one.
I have one quick question for james.
I i saw a facebook post about you had some water containers and you said you had a uh a deal that we’re doing.
What was that you had some water.
You were holding some water bottles.
You had some promotional going.
Oh, that was yeah, that was at my son’s fight um, the uh wikia wikia uh sponsored me with uh some water for the event, and i was just doing some stuff with it, and it was at my son’s fight uh his first uh debut fight out of The game in massachusetts, so uh uh, he got the win and uh.
It was wrong.
Excuse me, it was a good event.
I i just.
I just saw the post on facebook.
I thought i’d give it a quick question there there.
It is.
That’S awesome, not a problem.
Nothing serious, not serious! You just want to hear about it.
It’S all good! It’S all good! You guys get that all day yeah i just we got ta, get ready, uh! I i must say this.
We got ta get ready because uh mike knows uh we got ta, make some selections for this uh celebrity making of a champion and uh.
We will be meeting up tomorrow to make some of these decisions and i’ll see you guys later i’ll see you later see you later mike.
Yes, yes, definitely we got homework to do plus a fight today, guys guys don’t forget eastern standard time.
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What uh? What what? What network! I believe that one is um espn and fight.
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