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EPISODE: Episode 3
Our trio of panelists, plus special guest James Hagler, preview this weekend’s fights and provide another weekly roundup of boxing headlines – including updates about boxers from the past – and share current events and news with the many fans out there that enjoy the great sport of Boxing!
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[, Music ], damn uh [, Music, ], yeah, [, Music, ], hello, boxing fans around the world.
Thanks for tuning in to this week’s episode of the friday night panel with yours, truly mike orr and the two-time heavyweight champ tim witherspoon, how’s it going tim.
How are you doing today, everything’s good ready to go excellent, excellent, anything new and exciting, going on in your life nah? I do need some excitement.
That’S what that’s not why i’m on the show? I’M on the show, because i love it, you know things are gon na get better.
All you got ta do is wait.
Oh you have to be patient and wait right.
You guys heard that here man, that’s that’s good.
That’S good advice from the chat man be patient, patience, uh, so yeah.
You know what we’re gon na.
I guess we’ll talk about uh.
You know this week’s fight, uh we’ve got, you know gonzales and dogwo uh.
This is gon na, be a good one.
Uh, it’s the quiet, storm versus the royal storm, this one’s a can’t, miss featherweight match up uh.
You know, with the title shot on the line.
Two-Time title challenger, uh gonzalez, will take on former junior featherweight world champion.
Uh isaac royal storm dogwell in a 10 round main event, saturday july 23rd, at grand casino uh in hickory or hinckley uh yeah minnesota this one’s uh gon na be good man uh.
It’S definitely a good one to watch, i’m kind of excited for it.
Uh gonzalez will put his wbo intercontinental belt on the line uh with the fight also serving as the wbc world title eliminator uh.
So guys countdown is a starting.
That’S uh, one day, one hour 53 minutes and zero seconds away.
Uh you guys can get that one live, i believe on fight or espn plus uh, it’s in the 10 round lightweight co feature uh.
We got the undefeated contender giovanni el carbon cabera hopes for a signature win against the flashy, gabriel florence junior uh.
You know gonzalez and dogwo cabrera and flores and undercard boats will stream live and exclusively in the us on espn plus, so guys be on the lookout for that one uh.
This one is going to be uh a great event, man, this one 9 p.
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Eastern standard time will get underway, uh it’s promoted by top rank in association with raps uh boxing tickets, starting at 35 bucks.
Those who are around the area want to go into that one, unfortunately, i’m up in toronto, canada, so i will be sitting on my couch watching this one uh.
You know uh gonzalez, he’s 25 too, with 15 kos uh, you know from glendora.
California is considered one of boxing’s best uncrowned champions.
You know a 10-year pro whose only defeats have come to shakur stevenson and emmanuel neverente uh in separate bids for the wbo featherweight world title uh, yeah and gonzalez’s october 2021 decision lost and everette was considered.
One of the best action fights of the year uh and did little to diminish his standing.
He is currently rated number one by the wbo and number three by the wbc, which comes off the heels of his ninth round knockout over dio santamisa in march.
You know this is uh.
This is a good one man and then we got dogbo right this kid 23 to 15 kos.
You know uh he’s from aniko gana uh.
You know he burst onto the world scene in april of 2018, with his title: winning knockout over jesse magdaleno in his first title defense, he blitzed hendornery uh otake in the opening round uh his rapid rise came to a halt consecutive defeats to nevarete, but you know His career, he he boosted back up with his career with victories over chris avalos and uh, adam lopez and christopher diaz uh.
The ds and those lopez belts were ten round majority decisions uh they were toe to toe uh this this these.
These are great belts to watch man.
You know he’s a 2012 olympian dougal has a royal lineage and his late grandfather um was the ruler of the anglo state of ghana’s volta region uh.
His return to boxing royalty hinges over a victory over gonzalez, so this one uh this one’s gon na be good champ.
Do you do you know any of these fighters that we’re talking about today? I’M feeling embarrassed man, no, don’t feel embarrassed.
It’S okay, okay, you’re out! There living life not sitting at home, watching watching boxing you’re you’re, not watching boxing you’re doing boxing right.
What are you telling everybody? You got a fight coming up, don’t you, you got ta fight, come on well, yeah, there’s an exhibition.
His exhibition um, i’m the guy’s name, is leo.
I forgot his last name um, but he owns a gym up in berwick, pa um he’s about six foot four and he’s about 200.
I would say 230 pounds and um long arms he’s taller than me about the same height.
You know, and he just want to promote his gym and um and we’re going to do exhibition, but i’m getting in real good shape.
I’M hitting the hammer i’m running like it’s a real 10 round fight, because i’m gon na enter into the ring in shape just in case there’s some other stuff.
That’S gon na happen.
You know what i’m saying: i’m not gon na hey, he might get hit me or hurt me or try to hurt me, but i’m gon na i’m gon na be in good shape and my weight, i’m gon na be down to 2 30 for the first time In 20 years, wow 240, 243 right now, wow at the beginning of the year, weren’t you 265 266, but i was heavier than that.
I was heavier than that.
I was like 270.
Something – and the thing is, is that i’m cheating it’s just like i’m going into a 10 round fight, that’s good.
We do we’re doing podcasts and we’re going to be doing a little bit of stuff to show.
So if there’s anybody out there jake paul anybody out there that want to get but jake paul, i heard like me, i heard you like me: you know: okay, um! I wouldn’t challenge him.
Huh, that’s cause! You speak your mind.
That’S why you don’t hold back.
That’S why tim our friend, our friend carl from over in the uk, was asking he wants to know when the next time you’re going to be in the uk and then he says tim.
I recently listened to your interview with talksport radio in the uk uh talking about the bruno win uh.
He said it was a great interview.
Thank you thank you and uh yeah.
So when then when’s the next time, you’re hitting the uk tim well, you know um soon the epidemic is over um.
I think i think that some things have to clear up a little bit more um.
I definitely want to take my daughter to you know, see her family over there, but in the meantime, uh.
If there’s any exhibitions or there’s anything, that’s available, i’m willing to like that’s why i’m getting in shape.
But i do miss it over there and it would be nice to go over there and see everybody and do a tour or something.
And i wish somebody else, but so and my my uh, my agent um kevin kevin um kevin baker from banbury he’s gon na try to get something together for me over there, so i got agents over there.
That’S helped me.
I got people contacting me said tim when you coming over, so i know that is going to be within the next four or five months i’ll be over well.
You’Ll have to bring me back something nice, tim, [, Laughter, ], hey, oh! Let me see they got some strong stuff over there.
Oh okay, okay! No, i ain’t going to jail! No! No! No! I wouldn’t want you to do that i’ll.
Do it for this card, um, cabrera yeah! I can’t wait to see this one uh he’s fighting on this card this weekend.
Uh.
You know this kid he’s 20-0, with seven knockouts, he inked a promo contract with top rank earlier this year, uh, you know and he’s notched uh.
He has notched division victories over um.
I think it was giron and arujo uh rujo uh, to make it 20 for 20.
he’s trained by freddie roach at wild card boxing, in los angeles uh cabrera started boxing at the age of 16 when he was inspired by roach’s, most famous pupil, manny pacquiao.
He was raised mostly in chicago and developed as a pro at the emerald, queen casino in tacoma washington, where he headlined six events following an october 2019 win in chicago.
He was sidelined for more than two years due to promotional and managerial issues, since signing with top rank, cabrera has reestablished his standing as a contender to watch uh, and then you got flores who he’s fighting who’s 21-1 with seven kos, and this 22 year old from Stockton, california uh saw his momentum come to a temporary halt with a one-sided loss.
Last september against luis alberto lopez.
Less than six months later, florence survived a gut check to edu missouri a majority decision over abram montoya.
You know, prior to the lopez laws, flores became only the second man to knock out former world title challenger, jason velez.
So these guys are on the undercard man, and this undercard is scheduled to include many of top-ranked rising stars, including the italian uh.
The italian heavyweight knockout is your southpaw right, uh, guido, the gladiator vianello.
Do you know him? Is he? Is he the southpaw uh big guys he big? I just seen somebody the other day, um and he’s he’s undefeated was he he was latino.
I think he was uh yeah.
No, this guy, this guy he’s um he’s a big boy, though yeah, okay, that guy he’s real tall yeah this guy’s, a southpaw he’s a southpaw and he’s shorter he’s undefeated.
Is he well yeah this guy he’s he’s this guy’s six five? So you know it’s probably probably the same dude, probably the same.
No, the same, this guy he’s this guy.
You know he’s six five he’s italian.
They call him the gladiator.
I think he’s saying him.
I think he’s saying: yeah he’s he’s right now, he’s uh, he’s 801 and uh he’s eight for eight man he’s uh, you know, he’s he’s knocked out all his eight wins, so wow yeah.
This is gon na, be a good one, and this is on the undercard for it and then uh.
You know that’s in an eight-rounder featherweight and then we got prospect heaven haven, brady, jr, uh, watch out for this kid man he’s uh he’s.
You know one of the kids that’s come on.
This show many times.
Uh we’ve interviewed him talked to him.
Lots he’s 6-0 right now with four kos uh.
You know and then milwaukee native javier martinez, who’s six and over two k, uh two kos and this one’s a uh six round, middleweight boat and uh.
Then we got the six nine heavyweight antonio algonte morales.
That’S who you’re talking about yeah? That’S what i’m talking about! Yeah this one, this guy guys, you got to be on the lookout for this guy man, he’s 3-0 with three ko’s and he’s in a four-rounder against minneapolis residents, uh dennis reyes, who’s, three two and one uh cleveland-born lightweight phenomenon, abdullah mason, watch out for this kid Who’S: two in over two knockouts and uh fellow clevelander dante, benjamin jr, who’s, two and o with one kos will represent uh the land in separate four rounders man.
Benjamin jr will fight um corey thompson, who’s foreign with three kos, who hails from [ __ ] rapids minnesota.
So this is gon na be uh.
This is gon na, be a great undercard uh with a bunch of new and up-and-coming fighters.
Man.
This one is packed with prospects, so be on the lookout for this one guys, man, you know flores cabrera undercard.
We got gonzalez dog bow for the wbo international feather and then you know wow, i’m just you know.
Just looking at this card, you know: haven’t brady junior antonio woods, antonio morales dante benjamin.
We got abdullah mason on here.
Javier martinez haven’t brady jr.
These guys are all the future of boxing guys so make sure that you tune in and watch this one for sure.
This undercard is going to make noise.
There is going to be some highlight, finishes on this card for sure this weekend, man so guys espn, plus 9 p.
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Eastern standard time, i’m reminding you tomorrow, night, 9 p.
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Don’T forget this one uh carl! What are you saying? Six foot – nine is all well and well good, but can he box and move yes? Actually he can.
He can check him out el gante uh.
He can fight, he can fight he’s talented, definitely david price.
He got that size but had no chin and was stiff and easy to hit.
Unfortunately, yeah i know he’s uh.
He doesn’t fight like a david price.
That’S for sure he can move.
Oh did david pray, no, no david.
He tried you know.
I was around him too.
He tried to there’s lack just little things that give him over to get him over the hunt.
That’S all i seen when i was uh.
You know when i’ve been around these guys.
Well, if he just got a couple more things, he would do a little bit better, not a whole lot.
You know what i’m saying they try hard.
They do real good um, just certain things that they might need to just get them past.
That hump, like back in the day, that’s what they did.
You know the trainers did wow man just he need a little bit of power and – and we made this, they made a statement um um.
He made a statement at the last show of graham that um.
They need another weight.
You know he said they needed.
I don’t think so.
You don’t need to like to fight them tall guys.
I know that’s your style tim.
I know.
I know what you’re saying you do like to get in there and beat up them tall guys man get in there and they don’t knock them out, get in there and just beat him down.
That’S it um honestly right hand, you could you could almost with the amount of big guys that are now you know like there’s an influx of guys that are over six foot four now like yeah they’re, really there really is a there could be an extra weight Class, if you can understand, i can understand now, i can understand right last night, last night, uh was it yesterday.
Yes, yesterday i did a special on a trio of cubans that just got signed up by a promoter out in florida.
Uh two of these guys are six five, one of them.
Six, five, two! Seventy that’s like easy, easy weight.
Walking around this guy’s a monster and uh you this.
He was an amateur standout, 170 amateur victories.
He just got signed to a florida promoter.
He’S just turned pro and then he got his his his teammate who’s.
Another 6’5 guy who’s, like you, know, 245 250.
.
He might need another weight class.
They might need another weight, guys there’s a lot of big guys coming in you know, and then we got um.
We got maddie harris, there’s another guy who’s.
You know six, eight, six, nine right there, big 250 270 pound guy.
I wouldn’t have want an additional weight class like a bridge or weight.
Nobody cares if it isn’t broken, don’t fix it.
I understand car.
I know what you’re saying it, i’m just saying there could be a possibility of adding in like a super heavyweight division.
There is that, honestly, i know what you’re saying that bridger weight.
I don’t i’m not really, i’m not really a fan of the bridger weight.
I that’s yeah holyfield and david was they.
They were uh strong.
There was a little exceptional guys yeah.
You know they got over the hump, but you know they get killed with a shot too.
They can just leave here um.
You know because he’s saying holyfield and david hayford for tall guys he put the chinese guy right, david haye, oh yeah, i believe yeah and he was kind of awkward to the chinese.
Guys was chinese or japanese.
I think it was chinese um.
It was pretty cool.
I just go right in there getting close bam, but some of them guys there that you know he’s, got to be ready for him.
Yeah andrew zecklin.
I knocked him out, but he wasn’t skilled like some of these guys were skilled.
You know andrew zach.
Remember! Oh yeah yeah yeah he passed away and everything.
Oh, i can’t wait um, you know, there’s not much boxing on this weekend.
Uh i want to touch on maybe a little bit.
That’S going on next weekend.
Uh, you know we got talked a little more than than a spotlight from a bustle of commercial activity in the major shopping area.
There is a square space that could be confused for a warehouse or garage to a casual passerby, but it’s something else all together.
All together in and it’s that the enigma boxing club in capital heights maryland, have you been there tim? No, would you say um the have you ever heard of enigma boxing club in capital heights maryland.
It’S just like it’s! This like little warehouse garage style and a cat like to a casual passer by somebody, who’s walking by you, wouldn’t think it was anything you know because it’s like in the little spotlight from the hustle and bustle of commercial activity.
Okay, right, it’s it’s everywhere, yeah! So enigma boxing club um on july 30th, the undercard for danny garcia and jose benavidez um 26 year old uh gary uh 26 year old 20, uh 2016 u.
s olympian gary and anton russell uh who’s 15-0, with 15 kos, will make his second appearance of the year And um, with a win we’ll take his next step toward a title: shot against junior welterweight, uh russell will face 37 year old, former junior lightweight uh rancis barthelemy uh, who’s 29 one and one with 15 kos and a co-feature, and then we got gary antoine uh Was the focus of monday when the gym hosted an open workout for the media, but it was hard to miss the border family affair.
It hasn’t been easy.
A couple of years for the family, but brother gary bose, had died of a heart attack at just 25 years old in 2020 and in may of this year the father gary russell senior passed away at 63 after years of battling health problems and then in between The family’s most famous son 34 year old 2008 olympian gary russell jr who’s 31 and 2, with 18 knockouts lost the wbc featherweight title after a lengthy layoff battling hard through an injured right arm, but untimely losing a decision to mark meg’s, scio um.
You know, despite tragedies outside the ring and setbacks inside the ring man they’ve uh, they look like they’re bouncing back.
So that’s that’s good to say man um.
That was huge for those guys.
You know losing all that it was rough but uh yeah back back in action.
It’S gon na be nice to see him get back in the ring.
Definitely uh! Definitely you know shaking off that crap that’s been going on in his head right.
So what do you see here, carl? What holy uh? No, he fought the russian guy values him.
I think, he’s talking about david, hey, right, yeah, david, hey! You fought value, yeah that big tall awkward guy um.
I saw that fight.
It was um.
You know he.
He boxed him pretty good.
He moved around and boxed him good um and you know the guy was just big.
I don’t think he was that much skilled um.
If you you know, i don’t know your opinion on him.
I seen the fight, but it was a perfect fight for david.
I think, because you know david was skilled and uh, but if the guy was more like of a tiger, um david would have been in trouble and they knew i think they knew.
You can’t take nothing away from david, but and they knew that that they probably can get the job done and um that’s why they took the fight they’re going to take it anyway.
I guess you know what i see that big tall guy.
I know you’re talking about yeah yeah, so you know what guys we’re gon na talk about.
Well, what i’m gon na talk about right now, since uh i’ve talked about all the boxing this weekend, um on a real sweltering night last night in toronto, guys toronto, canada, the air-conditioned rebel entertainment complex, more commonly known as rebel to every uh torontonian out.
There was alive and thriving with an action-packed card that delivered, upsets, knockouts and plenty of drama and talking fight.
Was their media ringside, guys uh? If you haven’t yet on our channel, we’ve dropped a little uh video of some of the action that went on man.
Oh, we was there, i was there last night, i was there.
Oh, you took a little uh footage and stuff.
Well, we got lots of footage.
Man uh be on the lookout guys.
I have the main event.
Knockout finish in slow yeah.
I motion it in slow motion guys we will have the the the well not the winner.
Unfortunately we will have uh.
We will have fantuzi uh, who will be uh joining us next week on the show for an interview and we’re going to talk to his to him about his first loss at rebel entertainment complex last night guys.
This is huge man, lee baxter promotions presented for tuesday.
How was it oh, it was sweltering like honestly with with the humidity it was up in the up mid to high 30s and what is that, like 80 yeah yeah, it was take your [ __ ] off and show the girls.
Oh always baby, always kill me.
Yo trust me: it’s hot there, take it off.
Yeah, don’t worry! I i let the belly hang out the door.
Oh, it’s been hot yeah man, uh yeah, so uh.
This was a wbc nabf light heavyweight title fight that headline this all-star card.
Last night debuting.
We have the debuting of james bad news, hughes watch out for this kid finished.
Uh finished realizing his name yeah me too me too man, and then we have the return of heavy-handed, josh, lupa, uh and then rising star amanda, golly uh, who we’ve talked to and then our local legend, guys tron, tony and steve rolls uh, who came out with A great victory last night bring it to his opponent, great footage.
We have of that.
It’S dropped on the channel guys you can check it so in the opening belt james hughes proved he had what it took in the pro ranks, as he won a shout out.
Unanimous decision in his professional debut against a very hard game, which is mikhail miller, who we will have on knuckle up next week, folks so be on the lookout for that one uh.
This fight wasn’t an easy one, but hughes was polished enough to make it look that way.
Uh the bellar entertainment rising star manigaulty entered the square circle next, for what should have been a routine eight rounder uh.
The boxing gods had other plans guys.
I talked about this one today earlier on the show, as galley broke her right hand in the first minute of the first round uh.
She rarely threw it for the remainder of the fight utilizing.
Only your jab and powered left hooks despite the injury, galley stuck and moved well for the entire match and seemed to do enough to win, but judges saw it a different way guys.
I don’t know what the hell they were watching uh.
She ended up with a split decision draw 77.
75 and an outlandish 73.
79 and then a 76.
76 uh.
It was a gutsy performance overall that brought with it.
You know promise of bigger and brighter things on the horizon for a mandy golly man uh following the golly uh was the much josh lupa.
This one was a good one, guys man after the two and a half year absence lupa was looking to continue right where he left off.
Having started his career with five wins, and five straight knockouts history repeated itself once again and lupa easily dispatched the overmatch, luis uh grenadas, with a ko um lupo with knockout power seems to be real deal.
Man uh his career looks to be an exciting one.
Uh following lupus the local legend, steve rowles, who went up against undefeated shady gamor for the ibf north american middleweight title uh, rebounding from a close decision loss to edward uh burlenga.
Mr roles was in fine form in an exciting bout, where both men traded willingly and seemed to hurt the other at a different times.
Uh gilmore held his own with the veteran, but was untimely, outbox and lost the unanimous decision.
97-93.
97-93.
96-94.
The belt opens up new opportunities for roles who seems to age like fine wine man.
This guy’s, just you know, he’s getting older and he’s starting to look better um.
Honestly, these guys rolls and uh gamor these guys at the last minute yo they threw it.
They boxed and threw punches for the entire last round man.
It was a great fight, guys make sure you check out the footage that we dropped on the channel and then in the final belt of the night, was the headlining fight where local brawler nick fantuzi was taking on polish fighter michael lewinsky for the wbc nabf flight.
Heavy title uh, the clash was a long time coming for attend twozy who was undefeated coming into that boat.
Controversy began before the opening bell.
However, lewinsky was introduced as a late replacement after fantuzi’s original opponent, greg weeks went missing days before the fight.
Boxing is one of those things.
Man and the age old tale of late replacements, causing problems for seasoned pros uh was to be told once more man.
Fantuzi struggled to get comfortable against this unknown opponent, although he was boxing well fantuz, he was troubled by lewinsky’s, looping, overhand rights and eventually one of them found home guys.
Wait till you see that footage.
You can see that knockout right now or you can probably join me sunday guys because uh right now it is, it is the leader of our uh, like it’s leading right now for knockout of the week, man uh.
It was a big fight, huge fight, guys, huge fight.
So if you want to watch any of that, you can check it out on our channel uh.
What else you want to talk about tim? We got uh what i’m just impressed by the way you’re just laying stuff out.
You know, yeah, i’m listening to you word by word and you’re, putting it out for for people and there’s.
A lot of people should like tune in and and just listen and follow what you’re saying and just watch the shows.
That’S pretty good.
I like that.
I know you got a piece of paper, but you’re adding stuff on with yourself always always got to do what you got to do right.
You got it, you got to make it yours yeah.
It is that’s it yeah, i know, but what a great uh, what what? What a great uh fight last night, man uh great great great event, put on uh rebel entertainment center wow complex, what a place guys if you haven’t ever been to toronto.
Let me tell you about this place: uh great venue, uh outside cabana bars like uh right on the water man, big huge 25 person seating under the cabana like right on the water man right at the sea, that you know you can see the toronto skyline.
You know you got drinks, food music, what a great place man great place to have an event mike.
Did you see um? I don’t know how long it was, but i just saw it the other day.
I think it was on uh.
It was a messenger or something um, there was a boxer, he dropped the other guy and then he turned around and started throwing punches and they stopped the fight and he died like two days later.
Oh really, okay, there was this guy, he dropped the other guy.
I think they exchanged punches and he dropped them, and then he turned around and started throwing punches at air.
Oh yeah, the ref stopped the fight, and then they said he died too.
What was that all about uh? He? He ended up suffering um uh.
He became okay.
His name was uh sismo uh.
Where was that at in america? No south south african guy? Oh this one yeah, it was tragic man uh.
If you guys hadn’t seen that um.
You know that was really bad.
That was bad.
He became disoriented during the fight uh.
You know and began punching thin.
Air is is what happened uh.
So when i was in africa that was in africa yeah, it was very scary, like it was uh, it was.
It was in the 10th round and the final round and uh the this guy falls through the ropes uh.
The opponent falls through the ropes, but then bethuli or batuzili appears to lose his understanding of the whole situation and, where he’s actually at in the ring, and he kind of gets, turned towards turned towards the referee and starts walking towards him.
And as the ref kind of moves out of the way, the fighter still continues to walk into the corner and throw punches at somebody who wasn’t even standing there yeah i was like i felt, really bad.
They said he died yeah, he was, he was hospitalized uh.
After that and then uh what was his damage? What was his damage? Uh, a brain hemorrhage? Oh god yeah.
So he was literally.
He was literally fighting an invisible man uh.
Then he collapsed in the ring and was rushed to the hospital, and i was discovered that he had a brain injury.
That was, you know, internal bleeding.
Um did he drop the other guy? He dropped the other guy right yeah.
He he was winning.
He was winning the fight, apparently up until then, and then uh.
He punched buddy through the ropes had him in leaning in the ropes and then the ref broke him up right and as the ref broke him up, he separated and then he turned to the right.
Uh he turned to his right and started walking towards the corner where there was no and boxing an invisible guy.
So i’ve never seen that like that in my life i was like what the heck, yeah and shania was like dead.
Look at that yeah man.
He uh he died.
That was uh.
That was that was sad.
How long ago, how long ago was that uh that was actually uh back.
What was that that was back in uh june, beginning of june, okay yeah, not too long ago, that one was not too long ago, yeah that was kind of bad um.
That was sad, seeing him throwing punches at air.
I i was like whoa.
What kind of stuff was that yeah? No, that was uh.
That was something different for sure, something different for sure um.
Well, guys, i don’t know um.
We don’t got much more to really talk about in the boxing world other than we got to go and watch it, and it’s getting hot in my studio man because we’re going through.
Oh it’s getting hot you’re getting hot! You got ta, get i’m running out of the water that you know, somebody could hey: hey water people.
We need sponsors, how bad is the heat? How bad is it up there in the water situation, the water’s, not a problem up here, man, we got it’s just the heat.
This is just the heat and everything yeah like.
So what we’re doing is um.
What we’re going to do is tomorrow we’re going to go to muhammad ali’s training, camp um and um um john skelly.
You know from rhode island john kelly scheduled a a like get together for all the boxers, so i’m going up there um me and my market director mark uh um brian robinson and my son.
My son is going up he’s taking a different car, we’re going to go up and we’re going to have a reunion so um.
I know if it was the night i would bring the i would bring that stuff and and have us uh, have fun and and talk to a lot of the boxers.
But that’s what’s going on and then sunday they’re having a uh they’re, having a like a uh hall of fame thing in atlantic city um, and so i’m going down.
So i’m gon na be pretty busy i’m going down there.
A guy is presenting his book uh.
Some some uh former manager or something so so this this weekend should be pretty busy for me um.
You know so we’re gon na go to ali’s camp three o’clock.
They’Re gon na have that i’m gon na tell you this, though i’m not staying out there.
I trained at ollie’s camp and they got a big thing where you cook food on the outside right near the kitchen, but there’s woods back there and if it get dark, is there anything you get snatched up by something in the woods: hey, listen or some like A walk-up is like a a mile to the street: it’s about half a mile to the street, but it’s downhill and over none of us boxers never walk that way.
We go the regular way down the road, but you can get down, but you’ll bump them to some people houses because ali’s house ali’s training camp is on the hill and when you down on 60 and you turn into go up to his camp, you got to Go around then you start going up and then you reach the top.
Where did where his with the cabin and where his gym is, but on the sides it’s like a little drop yeah and like you go come up from this from the outside.
You know hey man at nighttime.
I know it’s gon na be scary, i’m not staying when it gets dark.
Uh carl yeah wilder who’s next.
Well, i heard that andy ruiz is, wants him next andrew ruiz desires, beyonce, wilder fight after the lewis, ortiz showdown uh and then uh deanto deyonte wilder’s potential.
Next fight uh could be against robert helenius.
So i don’t know man, i don’t know what’s next for wilder.
He should be tired, you think so he’s complaining about brain.
They was complaining about brain damage.
I think he should give it one more.
He has enough money, i think um, but if he want to fight, i mean he has to take chance.
Didn’T he complain to complain he had some type of, but then yeah.
I think he got an injury man.
Uh finkel went on to state that uh potential opponent for the bronze bomber could be the winner of usek joshua too in august carl.
What do you think that he should hire me to teach him some defense yeah? I i do you know what i i agree with.
You carl agree with you carl 100.
I was about to say it before you typed them in.
I think that i think the heavyweight division needs somebody like wilder in it man, if it’s not wilder, they need a guy to step up and take that spot uh.
You know with yeah.
Without tyson and wilder the division has no character yeah.
You know what no okay he’s really bad yeah.
True, if you take those two characters out of the heavyweight division really realistically, the only next character that you’re gon na have is that up and coming uh jared, big baby anderson man he’s uh he’s got that same same character.
You know he’s on his way up.
He’S on his way up, but it’s gon na be a while before he gets to that status of wilder wilder fury right.
So we need we need.
We need somebody to.
We need somebody in that gap.
There man we need somebody to kind of, and you know what, if wilder can do it.
You know, let’s think about it, wilder really hasn’t taken a lot of damage over his entire career.
So you know what maybe maybe this time the time off is, is gon na, allow him to heal enough to to be able to get back in there and do it so well.
The thing is: is that only take that one shot, um um, you know you need somebody to show him some stuff.
You know just show him.
These guys won’t do it.
You know he got he.
He don’t have to go down him or tyson fury, uh.
None of those guys gon na have to go down.
We got.
We got a gentleman joining us here, quick uh, antoine antoine.
How are you today, man, i’m doing pretty good man? How are you not bad, not bad thanks and thanks for coming on thanks for joining us uh, we were just talking about who’s next uh who’s.
Next uh wilder’s opponent could be man who, who do you think it could be? Oh his opponent yeah, who do you think while who do you think wilder could face next, there’s talk that he could face joshua usak 2 winner.
I think that’s what they’ll probably be aiming for to give him a fight with like the the usyk or joshua winner um, but i think, just coming back off a nice little loss.
I think they’re going to give give him uh.
You know, stop the touch! Andy ruiz asked for him asked for a fight with wilder yeah.
He had to be a temple.
Okay, okay.
I think that you know what.
If i watch that yeah i’d watch it too i’ll watch it too watch that that that’d be that’ll be interesting.
Yeah uh! We we we out, we saw what andy ruiz did to uh joshua.
I know he didn’t look so good in a rematch, but no, no, no, i’m not sure.
I’M not i’m not uh positive about wildest chin.
I’M not saying he doesn’t have one it’s just.
It could be questionable with the damage that he took in that last fury, fight, yeah, absolutely right and honestly, real, quick, real, quick, real, quick.
Both of them went down.
Um tyson, fury and joshua went down something wrong.
I keep telling you i had.
Defense was my main thing back in the day you ain’t supposed to be going down that many times something’s wrong.
They need help you’re going to see them going down again if they don’t get no help.
I’M telling you that that that’s for wilder right, yeah, both of them, i’m i’m um, um um, tyson, fury retired, though we talking about uh, i think he announced his comeback.
Wilder lacks a lot of fundamental stuff, and i think it’s just sad because he was an olympic he’s, an olympic medalist, which means, i know one at one point he knew how to box at one point he knew how to box.
At one point.
No, we just left nobody in front of him.
It wasn’t nobody in front of him to give him the test.
That’S the thing now he’s been exposed.
I liked it before he.
The right hand is, is it’s all he has yeah he’s got the right hand from hell.
I’M disappointed with everything else.
Possible opponent for wilder is also uh, robert fellainius.
That could be another one yeah.
I was really real quick.
I haven’t seen too much of him.
Honestly, i don’t think too many people would even want to watch it.
It seems just like a boring, it seems kind of boring.
So you know i’m just saying i’m just saying this division doesn’t have too many uh uh up and coming guys.
I don’t think you know what i mean they do, but not characters, not characters that can that can excite it man that talk that [ __ ], that you know command people’s attention and you know with you, can’t have wilder and fury missing from the heavyweight division.
I’M sorry we’ve got to have one of these guys right now.
We do have an up and comer in joshua.
No, no he’s not yeah, no right, yeah, hey yo.
What what what what we need? What i believe we need is we need the we.
We need.
The titles undisputed: we need to get all the belts together and have one guy holding them all.
That’S what the heavyweight division needs, how the rest of the guys gon na make money they’re gon na, be in the waiting like in your airplane.
No, you want to bring it airport, hey tim tim, you know best man, you’ve been it twice, but but yo to be the champ you got ta beat the champ right.
I like that right.
I like that you want to be the champ.
You got to beat the champ, that’s it absolutely, but but but but during this day and time we, you know, there’s a lot of heavyweights and you got to spread the thing out.
You got ta how you gon na make money they like in the airport, lined up waiting to fight and you got ta feed mounds.
So when you separate and try to narrow down, i think there’s a way you got ta find uh interested in to you know.
Just having people like that, like you have the people, that’s watching like having the three different um visions moving up to one, because if this one is going to get boring, i think if it’s just one line but but if it’s three years perfectly, he said, let’s Be honest once somebody wins all the belts, the mandatories are going to split it up right after that anyway, that’s, i think, that’s fair.
If you could feed your family, i don’t think i don’t think fighters even hold the titles too long, not really nothing easier.
I mean essentially, sanctioning fees are pretty crazy right.
Nowadays, the sanction on fees are crazy, so, like 300 000 a belt yeah.
So it’s like once you once you i mean they can’t take they.
They can’t really take away the fact they can’t the maximum is 300.
000.
, it’s like a percentage up to 300 000 per sanctioning body, so both fighters have to pay that out their purse.
So you want to imagine imagine the guy that can fight and can get all four, but it’s not a character and does not sell tickets.
What does that do for him he’s getting rid of those belts immediately: yeah yeah, if he ain’t selling tickets, exactly exactly well brother? Where are you from uh, so uh introduce yourself man, i’m sorry, canada, conversation everything he’s from canada! Yeah tell us a minute about you: hey canada, uh.
I live in uh, brockton, massachusetts uh originally from originally from boston, but i moved out here and finished my last two years of high school and i’ve been out here ever since um uh.
When i moved out here at about 22 years old, i was doing doing uh.
I was around a group of uh guys, one day and um.
We were doing normal kid stuff right and uh.
One of the guys gets up and he says uh all right guys.
I’M out of here and he starts giving you know, giving five to everybody because he’s taking off he’s a good friend of mine.
So i said where you going, he said i’m going to the boxing gym.
I said you box.
I never knew this and now he goes yeah, but well he didn’t box, but he he trained a little bit right.
So i said i’m coming with you.
I thought i was a bad dude.
You know what i mean i’m coming with you, so i i went with him uh and when i, when i got there man, i just fell in love and um.
I was there.
I’Ve been there ever since uh, i uh that was cappy, yellow boxing gym out of brockton yeah, which is which i believe is uh rocky marciano’s great nephew.
I believe yeah yeah um, so i fought for him.
I i did about uh, maybe like 20, something amateur fights.
I won the golden gloves um.
I got invited to the nationals, but uh funny thing is i got i got it.
I got invited to the nationals, my second or third time in the golden gloves and i lost in the finals.
I lost a close match and they still invited me yeah.
They still invited me, i didn’t go, i didn’t even go, i shoot it, but i didn’t go.
Oh okay, okay, yeah after i lost i kind of like i kind of like mentally.
I was like slacking off and you know what i mean and then i got a phone call like two weeks later, like hey, they want you in the nationals and i was just like ah uh.
I i’m a guy that kind of like respects it.
So i know if i’ve been effing off a little bit yeah i didn’t want to play with it.
You know what i mean, so i didn’t go so uh.
You know that was it hey man, that’s that’s a real man.
If you know that you can’t then you’ve been around, then hey yeah yeah, exactly one of our guests who wants uh one of our viewers is asking: are you orthodox or southpaw uh orthodoxy? I know what kind of stuff who you fight like.
I call you back.
I kind of got like a more like a.
I guess: i’m like a hit and not be hit kind of style.
Like a like a little bit of a slick style.
I started at 68 and then i then i went to light heavy um, but i still carry the you know like a light, guys kind of style.
You know so um.
I did that for a few years, man uh.
I i’ve been in the gym for 20.
Something years now i just train guys.
I work out myself uh still every now and then the youngsters i get in the ring with them, i’m 42 now, but every every now and then i’ll like get in the ring.
What type of boxer? How tall are you? I’M six two: i got it and you was one sixty eight one.
Sixty six two with an eighty inch yeah yeah, i was a pretty big uh uh uh um super middleweight.
That was a pretty good guy.
Well like a cruiserweight, middleweight right, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Even when i, even when i went to the 78, it was like, i was a.
I was fighting a lot of guys that were like stocky build, but they weren’t as tall as me, and i was uh.
Although i was slim, i was like kind of like shredded up.
I had kind of a big one: developer, yeah yeah yeah yeah man.
I had a.
I had a really pretty good job uh.
How good was your defense? How good was your d? Defense was good.
Uh, pretty good too.
I had like a hidden nappy hit style.
You know what i mean, i think in the amateurs like i kind of had a uh more but more of a professional style right and because i was new to boxing, i wasn’t uh.
I didn’t really, i didn’t really know uh there were some matches i lost.
I thought i won, you know what i mean because of my style.
You know what i mean it was like a.
I had a little bit more patience and i probably should have you know.
Amateurs is fast paced, so yeah man, it’s go, go, go, it’s go, go, go, go and then, when you get the professionals, it’s like sit and wait and yeah you get time to pick those thoughts.
Man exactly methodically like hmm, okay, i can i can.
I can time this and you you develop, you develop your jab and then you make sure you have the defense for their for their attack uh.
When the bell rings, you don’t have to rush out and pre and impress the judges you got ta show them your skills and relax a little bit more um versus you know the amateurs so and amazing you got to do a lot of moving around.
They want to see that give it a b and c yeah absolutely and then uh.
Did you turn pro? Did you turn pro? No, i i i i suffered uh.
I tore my bicep, my rotator and my labrum.
All in the same arm and again i started late so by the time i kind of like and i stalled on the surgery.
I didn’t exactly know what was wrong with me.
I was going up training.
I fought my last couple of fights with this injury.
I had no idea what’s torn that bad.
I just thought i i was sore because i was working out so hard and i i i i’d go home getting uh.
I i leave the gym and i had a stick shift.
I’D get in the car and i could i couldn’t even close my door.
So what i would do is, i said, my arms really sore.
I just got ta take a couple of days off the gym when i started feeling a little bit better.
I go back to the gym and i work i work out and then it was just like reoccurring, reoccurring and i and i i fought a couple of times my last maybe three or four fights man.
I fought with this injury um and i finally went to the doctor and got the mri and they told me what was up and i had.
I ended up having a surgery.
When i came back, i just uh.
I was like you know what it’s a young man’s game.
You know what i’m saying again like i respected too much to play with it.
So i kind of just but again like i couldn’t stay out no yeah when i was even when i was i was in a medical sling.
I i had to go up to the gym and smell it.
You know what i mean i haven’t yet you know what i’m saying so you didn’t whiff of those gloves man just like yeah, yeah yeah.
Absolutely absolutely i’m telling you honestly when you step away from it for so long yeah i mean you need that.
It’S that smell of that leather, yeah man, i was uh, i was doing.
I was up there in a medical sling doing um.
You know when, like when i got to the point where i could like kind of walk without feeling the pain i was up there doing mitt work with kids just with one mit, and i got so good at it that when my arm was healed, it was Hard for me to even put on another myth.
You know it was just crazy.
You know, but uh again, like i love it man and i’m up there every day now, um and i’m just you know, training younger, guys and um.
You know anybody and everybody who wants to learn kind of like you know what i mean, give your place.
A shadow man give your place a shadow, let everybody know where they can find you, oh yeah, so i’m at a uh capriolo uh boxing in brockton at 162 main street.
So i started a program called hands: factory h-a-n-z, um factory um and on instagram.
It’S h.
A you know: hands h-a-n-z dot, factory 508.
So if anybody wants to check it out, you know what i mean: yeah man for sure for sure, yeah um, it’s it’s yeah! It’S a you know! It’S a pleasure having you today, man.
Thank you for coming out.
Absolutely.
Definitely i would like to invite you back any friday.
You want to come chop it up talk boxing uh by all means, then we got your email now.
We can definitely send you in man we’ll send you that absolutely man absolutely thank you guys for having me man.
It’S been a pleasure, uh and i’ll definitely be trying to tune back in yeah man check us out.
We uh, we, we got, we got all sorts of shows man uh our channel, we got every friday happy friday, we got, we got miss too bad brown and her show on wednesday nights.
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So oh is this all.
Is this like all boxing related you’re, all boxing all the time man, man, scientists he’s the scientist.
James is the one that connected me and i, and you know what he came to caputo’s uh boxing the other day he was talking to mike and rich and uh.
We would say this is an everyday thing.
Man after we work out all we do is debate boxing up in the champions league with the brothers just like the mortgage.
Exactly exactly so.
I love talking boxing so yeah man well, guys honestly uh.
It’S getting to that time.
We’Re gon na uh we’re gon na end it and get out of here.
Uh carl carl says this before before he leaves he’s a southpaw and he likes to wind up fighters by treading on their toes as they exchange.
He loves the dark arts unboxing just to let everybody know [ Laughter ].
I hate that [ __, ] carl, well guys uh yeah.
Thank you again guys what a great show man to all the fans nice to meet.
You man, nice, to meet you nice to meet.
You pleasure pleasure pleasure to see you again absolutely definitely again, tim always a pleasure for all the fans around the world watching today.
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