EPISODE: Episode 10
Talkin Fight: Neil the Deal
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I wasn’t calling you charles atlas, yeah.
I thought you were talking to charles atlas after after guys, how are you doing nice to see you again grace when they, when sid vanderpool thanks sid last night was probably one of the highlights of my career so far, thanks sid want to say that was amazing, But after sid’s finished with me in the gym, graham out there and kitchener, there might not be anything left to me for the show’s over i’m thinking about this.
The next day going.
Have i lost my mind or i tried this 20 years ago.
I lasted about a week and uh.
It’S the hardest thing.
I’Ve ever done, like the regiment that they do for training.
Is these these trainers and coaches grammar? It’S hard man, it’s really hard and i’m not a spring chicken.
You know what i mean exactly hey.
Welcome talk, fans and uh.
Here we are on talk and fight with neil the deal yet another show you’ve got troy ross lined up and potentially we might have a surprise, uh phone and guest as well.
So, let’s just roll with what you got and see what happens! Thank you very much, graham it’s nice to see you again as usual, you’re looking good uh, how you doing fight fans out there.
Neil of the deal show fans talking fight fans, it’s nice to see you guys, uh area, okay, uh, there we go yeah guys.
Thank you very much for everything.
Boy yesterday was one of the highlights of the neil.
The deal show they’re.
Actually, today i got a phone call.
I can’t tell you yet, but this is a blockbuster, so if this actually happens guys it’s gon na blow the roof off this is this, will blow your phone up guaranteed and it has nothing to do with the big guy jb.
So it’s somebody else throw their name in the ring type of thing.
I guess right so maybe i’ll ask him if he wants to fight graham, that might be a good one too, that that guy, that called us we’ll just ask him what the hell i’ll fight them all i don’t care.
I don’t duck anybody for how it is.
I was taught by the best right so anyways.
Let’S go guys all right, so we’re going to talk about a guy and i want to wait.
Wait, wait! Wait! I thought you had a new light.
I knew like no.
I bought by getting the light from amazon on apparently friday.
I thought the producer had given you a new light.
He said he wanted to keep that one for himself, so he ordered me another one like a better one or something so he didn’t get it he’s too high me that guy, i don’t know so anyways i wanted to like give it to me.
Okay, go ahead; yeah, no problem buddy, so anyways we’re gon na we’re gon na we’re gon na thank sid again last night.
I want to thank all you guys for watching the show it was a fantastic interview and sid’s gon na be back apparently he’s gon na bring his brothers and uh we’re gon na have a powwow barbecue, whatever you want to call it.
A good old, good old apple, throwing competition how’s that we’ll do that as a part of the show who can kill the other guy with apples first.
So that was an awesome one.
Graham, i really enjoyed that honestly guys.
I hope you guys enjoyed that out there.
The likes the shares the comments as usual, coming flying in and uh, the subscriptions have been going up a lot that i’ve seen.
Thank you very much for all the support guys.
I really appreciate it so we’re going to talk about an individual and oh i made a mistake.
Last night i did make a mista.
I know it’s hard to believe but uh i had mentioned to sid and sid.
Didn’T i’m confused here now he didn’t say: no! No, no, i maybe did i wasn’t listening, but we’re doing a gentleman tonight who is a friend of sids.
I know that for sure, but i thought he was related to sid vanderpool.
Apparently, i’ve lost my mind because i knew this and i made a mistake: he’s actually the cousin troy ross is the guy we’re doing tonight.
His name is troy uh, the boss ross.
They used to call him the boss, ross um we’re gon na.
Do troy he’s a canadian fighter here out of uh kitchener as well? No i’m sorry he’s out of brampton uh toronto.
Brampton brampton basically grew up in brampton, but um.
I made the mistake of saying that he was related to sid when i found out today, and i did a little more research on what we were doing he’s actually – and i mentioned it in my segment a couple of weeks ago – he’s actually related to edgar eggerton, Marcus, graham he’s edgarton marcus’s cousin yeah.
I thought i for some reason.
I got sid and edgarton mixed up, so i apologize guys.
I know sometimes it happens, but we’re just by here.
By the way, uh we’ve got a little bit of an interjection here.
Troy ross was going to join us, but he’s actually training right now in puerto rico, because he’s scheduled to fight battle jack for the light heavyweight championship of the world, what yeah really ross, there’s a team.
Pascal, do you know when the last time troy had a professional fight? Maybe are there two troy ross’s, no they’re they’re, not twins, graham there’s, not true.
It’S troy ross from brampton ontario is that who you’re we’re troy ross? The boss troy ross, the boss, troy ross? Well, okay, i i’m being told uh guys out there just we’re going to take a second here to uh confirm what the deal is is this is the real, troy, ross’s pipe done and troy if you’re out there? Let us know if you’re coming man we’d love to have you well how many troy ross’s.
Are there uh? I don’t only know one boxing troy ross.
It’S him he’s from brampton like up the road, so is he still competing? No, no, he actually retired.
Oh, unless, unless he’s one of these fellas who’s joining he’s coming back, he wants to talk about it yeah, maybe because battery jack is a serious cat.
So i’m thinking, why would you come out of retirement after nine years and fight a guy that basically eats steel for breakfast? The guy is: listen, i’m just telling you i’m just reading the comments and i’m just telling you what these comments are saying to me.
Troy ross could be true.
Man like hey roy somebody.
If you guys out there in fight land, there can give us a confirmation on this troy ross like this is like big news.
Actually, i i had no clue so it could be possible.
Maybe sid sid might know.
Maybe i don’t know i don’t know so.
Okay, anyways guys, let’s just talk a little bit about him, go ahead, graham, no! You go ahead for them.
I ahead! Just simply saying that uh! This is the beauty of live tv.
If you will uh we’re getting interaction with the fans, uh live as we speak, and that’s what the fans are telling us is that uh, troy ross is with gene pascal in puerto rico, training to fight that battle, jack for the light heavyweight championship of the world.
That that is incredible news man there you go broke the news.
Thank you to that that individual who commented on that, like we don’t know everything over here, we need your help.
You know we’re just we’re just we’re just doing our best guys.
We always try to do our best, but thanks for that tidbit, that’s awesome.
That’S really really awesome! So apparently – and i guess if he called in – and he said he can’t make it cause he’s there, then it makes sense.
He’S there right.
It’S courtesy of the golden courtesy of golden roger.
I think you might have heard of him.
Oh yeah, absolutely yeah yeah! Absolutely so there you go anyway, all right! Let’S go well! Congratulations! Troy on your uh, newfound uh comeback! I guess you’re gon na call this graham uh.
He was always a fantastic fighter.
I troll, i truly believe he retired, before his time he still had years in him.
So maybe this was his ploy.
He didn’t want to beat himself up too much.
Take off a few years still train just so he doesn’t do the damage to his body that most boxers do over a lengthy career and then just come back when he you know, maybe he had uh.
Maybe he had a kid or maybe you know something of that sort of family thing and he decided to retire, like sid said same basic thing: right, um, so hey troy, if you’re out there buddy i’d love to have you on the neil, the deal showing and And i saw you fight probably three or four times i would say – maybe five and uh this guy was amazing guys he was uh absolutely wicked in the ring he could float around.
The ring effortlessly had amazing, footwork and speed was just wicked punching power was there.
He was an all-around good fighter.
He had he.
He i seen him guy, take guys down with body shots, knock guys out with body shots.
I seen him knock him out with uh with head shots.
I seen him knock him out with combinations that were blazing so and and we’re going to go over some of his stuff here, graham and that’ll.
Let you know a little bit about how he became so amazing troy thanks a lot buddy, you’re canadian.
We love you you’re, always invited on the show you’re a friend of ours and uh we’d love to have you out so guys.
If you, you know, support us support, troy, i’m sure he’ll show up he’s a he’s.
A cool cat he’s a real cool cat, so he was born july 17th.
Push up my glasses there.
I don’t have any hair.
Graham, i use that hair.
Oh, i should show everybody guys.
I got a haircut today.
How does that look? Is that how’s that we’re still working on it right? But anyway, because at least at least at least at your age, you have hair yeah.
Exactly that’s! That’S! Actually, what i was thinking, i’m thinking 90 of my buddies, don’t even have a thread: yeah they’re, cue balls or they’re, almost two balls and uh.
Basically, i just laughed.
I go hey.
What’S up kojak yeah, what’s going on there uh picard, they don’t like that stuff, but anyways they just they look really old.
You know – and i don’t thank the lord so anyways he was born in brampton, ontario uh he’s a canadian citizen, so he was born a canadian citizen.
He was, he fought in quite a number of uh, a number of divisions.
He fought in the cruiserweight light heavyweight and, and he was a southpaw, so cruiserweight light heavyweight.
I think those weights graham are around cruiserweights like 190.
I believe headlight heavyweights, 200 and then anything over 200 is heavyweight, i’m pretty sure, maybe 205, something like that.
So he’s a pretty big guy, like he’s not he’s not a little guy he’s a big tough guy and he did some serious damage when i watched him – and this was here in mississauga on those undercards, some of the cards that said vanderpool was on with his Brothers so uh, i guess the boxing promoter in this region was, you know they put them there.
They, i think they all trained together.
I think that’s what it was they they.
I think they trained a lot together right.
Graham, you know cedric by troy and sid’s brothers, and it was like a little group of guys.
Like you know, the one guy gets the the title shot and then all the guys he’s training with are the undercarders.
So it works well for the the boxers and it works well for the promoter so and and the entertainment value is amazing.
So you know you go to these fights guys.
You got ta, remember you’re gon na go to a rock concert, you’re paying like four or five hundred dollars for a ticket.
If it’s bon jovi front row, it’s like 1600 bucks, but you get to take your chair home with a bon jovi sticker on it, and you get a greeting me for what two grand so there’s three of you, it’s six grand that is the biggest waste of Six grand you’ll ever especially if it’s bon jovi but anyways uh yeah, he’s all right, but uh yeah, so the boxing tickets.
I can remember just to say what these guys were boxing out here in mississauga the hershey center.
They were like 20 bucks, grand 25 bucks and you get like six fights and it was great.
They had uh, they had the vip all around the ring.
Just just like pro man bottle service food for vip, and then there was always you know.
Then there was the fans in the stands and we were you know: cokes and hot dogs and all that fun stuff right.
But it was a great time and very like valuable, great value to be able to take your uh kids out or your your friends, kids or your kids or your kids.
Friends or you know you can’t go to a leaf game anymore.
Graham, as we know, you got to be take a second mortgage just for that just go to a leaf game, unbelievable.
So, by the time you leave with four people you’re out about two grand three.
You know who can do that.
This is not the greatest time for this stuff, but anyways.
Let’S get back to this yeah.
This is uh guys if you just tuned in we’re talking about troy, the troy, the boss ross, all right he’s from brampton ontario he’s.
I saw him fight many times: fantastic guy, canadian guy and apparently he’s fighting again coming out of retirement because john pascal, i know who that is, he is an amazing fighter and uh.
I believe, he’s canadian.
I think he’s from montreal quebec or something john pascal and he’s amazing.
So there you go uh i’d love.
I can’t wait to see it.
This should be interesting like hey.
This should be interesting because we know this patio jack guy is he didn’t get the name bad in the front of his name, for nothing, he’s bad ooh, look out and he’s a jackass badou jackass he’s going to kill you.
So you got to be careful with these guys.
You know he he’s he’s a tough guy seen him.
I saw him fight what graham he fought about.
Three months ago we saw my song and he annihilated, whoever he was fighting.
He just literally annihilated the guy – and i had only seen him once before and he looked good but that now the last time that battery jack guy looked awesome so troy.
I guess that’s why you’re in training right now, you can’t be on the show.
You got ta watch out for your safety there buddy, so he uh he.
He represented canada in a couple of um world events.
So any one medals.
So god bless you troy.
You actually won medals for our country, that’s the best thing ever and that must have been probably the highlight of his career, winning those medals.
I’M sure it was or close to it anyways he won.
He won a title, so that was probably in the mix.
So he won a silver medal for canada in the 1998 commonwealth games in the late heavyweight division, and it was in uh, kunara lumpar.
Is that what it is? This, i believe, graham, was like indonesia or something is that, where that is malaysia, malaysia, yeah, not in malaysia, that’s right, so troy won us a silver medal in malaysia 1998.
He also won the gold right on buddy gold medal winner.
There you go 1999 pan american games and he did it on his home turf in winnipeg canada, so that was probably pretty big accomplishment to be able to do that in front of your home country fans, and i i i saw that fight that i remember vividly – Was uh because i always watch the olympics scram the box.
I’Ve watched every every time since i was like five, so i never miss the summer or winter olympics out.
I don’t even go to work.
I usually get fired or people they like.
I don’t even show up i’m school.
I was never in school ever i had like 200 absences, but i it’d still get like 77 percent right, but i have 200 absences because at home watching fights stuff like that, like watch and talk and fight right so guys he won the medals for us, fantastic.
We’Ll go into his uh going to his pro career.
He was he had 28 fights, which really graham, isn’t that many fights that’s why i’m thinking, maybe he was injured back in the day, and maybe he just took the time off just to heal, maybe because it makes no sense to come out of retirement after what Nine years it makes no sense, so he had 28 fights, he won, 25 of them.
Graham, he only had three losses.
He won 16 by kale.
He had nine decisions in the wins, the three losses he had.
He had uh.
He was knocked out once and uh.
He lost two decisions, so troy in the 28 fights professional fights that he was involved in.
He was only knocked out once and there’s that lucky bolo punch.
You know what i mean like the old oops.
Where did that come from thing? That’S that’s what that it happens.
Even sid said it remember, sits at that last night.
That’S why boxing is boxing because at any second you can actually get cold cocked with a haymaker and then you’re done you’re on the canvas.
So and you don’t even know what happened because you were two seconds ago, you were actually winning the fight easily.
Everything was under control and then bang guns up.
So it’s a very strange thing how that happens.
You know it’s just the fight game, so he won his first 12 votes, graham all right, um.
He he he was in a cruiserweight division when he started.
So i guess he moved up in weight later on in his career.
He went up to that light.
Heavyweight weight and uh yeah he had a first loss to a romanian guy.
You know after the first loss he beat uh.
Sorry after his first loss he beat a romanian guy named claudio risco.
I don’t know who he is.
You can look him up romanian uh, but he it actually.
It was a great fight for troy because he won the vacant doubly uh the vacant cbf.
I i i can’t recall the cbf, wherein would that be maybe we’ll last troy if he comes out or maybe you guys know out there guys something that might be the commonwealth boxing boxing federation, i’m guessing.
That was my guess, but you don’t see it when you’re talking ibo, wbc wba and you know, there’s there’s so many so many titles.
Now that i’m you know i’ve never heard of this this one.
So it’s cool though he was the world world title holder and he uh, and then he won his next 10 fights, which is pretty amazing, so he debuted uh against an american guy uh.
He won his first fight pro fight, the fourth round knockout.
So that’s! That’S always fun, you know you don’t want to lose the first one right, obviously, and then he uh his last fight was against a guy named juan pablo hernandez sounds like a mexican guy and he lost the 12-round unanimous decision that was september 12, 2012 and uh.
I believe that’s around the time that he decided to retire.
So guys, like we’re, saying the information we’ve been given tonight is pretty interesting, because troy has been retired, as we were saying for nine years and he’s now going to come back on retirement.
So all right.
I’D love to see it man, it’s gon na, be cool i’d love to, for you know our producers to call sid vanderpool sometime this week.
If you can hear me out there guys there are the producers and just see if that’s actually real, and we could comment on it because that would be that’s.
That’S actually cool! That’S really cool i’d love to see troy ross fight again.
He was wicked wicked fighter.
Uh, so he did a bunch of tv stuff when he, when he retired he kind of went into this acting career right.
So from what i found out, he uh he fought in a in a in a a show.
Kind of like a big brother, show uh.
It was in, i believe it was in japan or something like that.
It was no.
It was uh.
Singapore, singapore where’s singapore graham, is that china uh yeah it’s on the coast, um it’s its own, independent little nationality.
If you will oh okay, yeah yeah, apparently they had some.
This show going kind of like a boxing show, was called the contender.
I i kind of remember: didn’t they have the contender usa, graham at some point, did they have a show they had that didn’t they contender? The contender was like a box off.
You know, like you, got to beat this guy to beat that guy and then at the end, the winner is the contender.
He goes on to fight an actual real pro or something or maybe it was pros.
I i can’t remember, really yeah.
I can’t either guys out there and talking fight land neil the deal yeah.
I don’t know anything about that, show we’ll look it up i’ll.
Look it up, because i just i heard i heard about it and i was like singapore, okay, so he’s in singapore.
So it’s a reality show too of all things.
So it’s a reality show and he was the season four champion.
He actually won the show so it’d be like winning big brother or something i guess right, big brother or or what’s the other one, graham, where they run around uh all over the place that big one they used to do the islands and all that you know You got ta survive, survivor survivor, that’s the one so anyways, it’s kind of like that’s called the contender because you got ta survive all these fights and then you end up being either knocked out you’re eliminated or then you become the champ and he became the champion Of season four, so good good for you, troy nice work.
He also appeared in a cinderella.
Man, if you guys remember that movie with russell crowe, it was filmed in toronto.
Here i was on set a couple of days for a few hours and did a couple of things there, but um binky.
We talked about binky a little while ago.
Binky was uh, actually the guy who was fighting against russell crowe and cinderella man.
So we’re still looking for you binky we’re still trying to find binky right, so yeah yeah.
Thank you very hard to find these guys.
They’Re, not they’re, not easy right.
I don’t know we’ll find them so they’re busy exactly something’s up.
So he did that he’s a cinderella, man uh.
Then he did a a movie.
I guess is called henry lewis and then he did something called the resurrecting the champ, and that was with samuel l jackson and then he did something called phantom punch.
He played uh heavyweight, floyd patterson, remember floyd patterson, graham i do he was the the star starring as floyd patterson in that in that movie, and let’s talk about it again quicker, it was called phantom punch.
I think i’m gon na i’m gon na put that on the netflix or whatever you know, those things or the satellite i got.
I don’t know what it is.
It plays a lot of good stuff.
So yeah, you know what i mean so anyways he’s.
Obviously been doing some pretty good stuff in the in the film industry.
You know which is awesome.
I work in the film industry.
Sometimes i’m not busy doing this, but anyways it’s cool, that’s really cool things and uh his last.
He was he was basically.
I think i think he did this on purpose.
I heard through the grapevine again that he, his last fight, was at casino rama in aurelia wow right that was his last fight and uh.
It was october 30th 2010.
Well, that was the story it would be.
It would no because he had a fight in 2000, it would be on canadian soil.
I think the last fight he ever had on canadian soil was that one at casino round, because i was watching him around the same time as when i was watching sid, vanderpool and scotty, and those guys uh scotty’s a little older, but he’s still in the mix.
A little bit um, and so he just i guess he retired i i did hear i funny enough now that i see what i thought about this.
There was a rumbling that maybe he was injured.
Graham, i think maybe he had a severe concussion, maybe like an injury of some kind that forced him to sort of take some time off.
I guess right, maybe not i mean troy you’re, the only one that can tell us the truth so come on out.
If you’re, if you’re listening out there and uh, where is he graham dominican puerto rico, he’s in puerto rico, everyone, ladies and gentlemen of the neil, the deal show he’s actually in puerto rico, as we speak, training to fight badou jack, that is, i don’t know man That i didn’t think that was gon na happen.
Like i didn’t know, we get that one today.
So that’s interesting uh! You know that’s what he’s doing he’s, not retired, so we might as well not talk about his retirement because he’s not retired he’s still fighting.
So that’s the end of that guys so check out, troy uh the boss, ross sid vanderpool uh thanks again yesterday was fantastic.
All the likes, the shares just everything’s been absolutely crazy and uh the subscriptions have been going through the roof.
I want to.
Thank you all.
All my fight fans, all my fight fans, all my friends now my family and everybody.
Thank you very much from the bottom of my heart, and i did want to do a little thing here.
Graham tonight, just i just felt like doing it.
You know i just felt like doing it.
It doesn’t have much to do with with boxing, but these guys like boxing and they’re just musician friends of mine and they they’re watching the show guys.
How are you out there, and so i just thought: hey you’re watching the fight might as well talk about you because they’re, a big inspiration to me.
I love music.
I love boxing.
I love boxing too music.
You know what i mean it’s it’s very like.
If you’re working out you need music, you know like graham, like you go to the gym.
Everybody’S got ear things in and they got music going and music and boxing go together.
So here’s a couple of canadian independent bands – i think you guys around the world – would really enjoy they’re a little bit on the heavy side, let’s just say, but um – for what they’re doing they’re way above the curve and i’m sure there’s some guys out there still Like to rock, like me, i mean i do country, but the odd ballad, or you know that kind of stuff white lion that you know.
Remember those guys, white lion, graham’s laughing graham’s, a punker guys.
Everybody graham, is a punker.
You remember those guys, the bunkers wow.
He doesn’t look like a bunker.
Does he so anyways? I’M just going to talk quick about these two beds.
It’S up to you guys to check them out.
I think you’ll enjoy it.
Anybody out there in a talk and fight land.
Neil the deal show first band.
I want to talk about is a friend of mine.
His name is axel tomb, axel tomb, one of the coolest cats in toronto.
These bands are both toronto bands and they’re independent bands they’re not signed to any labels or anything, but their music is absolutely kick-ass.
That’S all i can say so.
These two bands are absolutely some of my absolute favorites and they they don’t leave it’s like dr rock.
They don’t leave the cd player.
I just play them for like two months and then i change the cd type of thing.
So, first one’s going to be this one guys this one is here: it’s atomic tomb, all right: let’s just move that in the screen there.
How are we going to do this all right there? It is atomic tomb all right.
It’S axel, tombs, band, they’re super phenomenal.
You got ronnie bashard, my big buddy ronnie, how you doing ronnie.
I love you ron, you’re the best on guitar from three days.
Grace he’s got a gary on drums.
Killer he’s got corrado one of the best place players around and of course we got the big guy tommy gunn tommy gunn from the vile tones.
All right, everybody knows about.
Graham, you know the vile tones.
Don’T you steve yeah, you know steve lucky steve lucky.
We love you dude.
I hope you hope you’re feeling better buddy, so uh yeah, that’s them atomic tune.
I think you can check them out on youtube or uh.
What’S the other one, graham, that everybody puts their music on if they don’t it’s like one of those.
I don’t know spotify probably supposed to lost, can you i don’t get your spotify or do you have to pay? I don’t know how that works, or they just 10 bucks a month or something.
Well, maybe they’re on okay.
So that’s atomic tomb.
Those guys are from toronto, absolutely smoking.
The other band i want to talk to these guys are retired.
This band doesn’t exist anymore as a band, but they’re absolutely smoking and they never got proper uh.
You know they just they just didn’t, get it proper and they, if, if they were around these two bands, when i was in high school, these would have been the two biggest bands in the world.
They just missed the boat by how many years is that graham 30 yeah 30 years so they’ve been doing the same thing for 30 years, but it just never came back.
If graham knows what we’re talking about.
So, just quick guys we’re going to talk about these guys, one of my absolute favorites.
These guys are called sin dealer.
The dealers of sin sin dealer right.
They were absolutely smoking.
So again this is aaron.
Eric couth is the singer again.
One sounds like niels crashed.
The internet are you coming back neil? Are you coming one two, three, four all right, yeah sin dealer that goes back a few years.
Should we end the show or should we allow him to come back? What are we gon na do? Maybe i should go to uh a trivia question for the good listenership uh.
I know i’m gon na.
Do i’m gon na google cindy sin.
It’S a let’s say, hung up the guitars before oh wow sin dealers are open for wasp in toronto, wow uh right so away.
We go all right, you’re breaking up there, neil you’re there you’re with us yeah.
So as graham, i was just talking about yeah.
I’M here i’m here you hear me, i can see you yeah you’re you’re, breaking up, we we might have to.
We might fish sorry, neil you’re uh, what’s going on boys where’s that we need some more rit, give us the big it’s you’re.
Breaking up big time.
Can you hear me, i can hear you now? Oh, can you hear me now? Yes, can you see me now? Is that you on the come on? Do you want to close out the show yeah? Absolutely.
Thank you very much guys likes shares subscriptions everything.
So much the comments have been flying in.
Apparently we just got up tidbit that there’s a lot of guys that watch.
That said, vanderpool thing we had a bit of a glitch because of that it was an overwhelming response which crashed our it’s guys whatever.
So that’s the problem was we’re going to work on that coming in here, so we got to get more computers.
I guess that’s it so neil the deal is out we’ll see you tomorrow.
At 6, 30.
god bless, you stay safe, stay off the pipe and don’t forget to wait.
Thanks neil see you tomorrow,