AIR DATE: Nov 10 2021 13:52UTC
EPISODE: Episode 36
Óscar Valdez | Knuckle Up with Mike Orr | Talkin Fight
Óscar Rafael Valdez Fierro Jr. is a Mexican professional boxer. He is a world champion in two weight classes, having held the WBC super featherweight title since February 2021, and the WBO featherweight title from 2016 to 2019.
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[, Music, ], hello, boxing fans around the world.
Thank you for joining us once again on talk and fight.
Here we are knuckling up on hump day with mike or iv, and we’ve got a good one in the house.
Oscar valdez he’s uh one of my favorite uh liver, knockout specialists, uh.
If you go seriously, if you go to his top five knockouts, i think two of the top five are uh liver shots.
Um he’s one of my favorites because of that virtualet knockout, which is still in the running, which is still in the running right now for knockout of the year of the year, yeah yeah yeah, honestly, what what a big big, big knockout that was um! This super featherweight is uh.
Now the wbc world super feather champion uh.
He came off of a fight against robson uh consail uh back in september back september 10th uh.
He won a unanimous decision, so he’s been in the ring since that burchellette knockout, which was absolutely fantastic um.
He trained he’s actually managed by frank espinoza um.
You know who launched a boxing club in 1991 he’s an la based businessman.
Um, you know he’s he’s managed people like uh abner, mars, uh, daniel ponce de leon uh, carlos uh molina, you know he’s got he’s, got a ton of these guys under his belt uh that he manages, and he so happens, that oscar valdez is one of them.
Um, what i like is back back a little while ago, um he’s he’s been signed to a multi-fight deal.
So now this undefeated wbc super featherweight world champion um, who is the fighting pride of nogales.
Mexico has signed a new multi-fight promotional agreement with top rank so valdez, who is now 30-0 in his career.
[ Laughter, ] sounds so nice.
Doesn’T it he’s 30? You know in his career and honestly um.
You know he can’t he could he couldn’t be.
He couldn’t do anything better than that.
Really, you know signed a great deal top rank um.
You know he’s 30 years old, um and he’s upset the odds and boxed fireworks masterpiece in his last vote against uh miguel burchellet in that historic, all mexican showdown to win his wbc super featherweight world title, which honestly guys, if you don’t remember if you do not Remember this fight go back and look at it.
It is in the running for knockout of the year.
It is one of the deadliest knockouts that i’ve seen uh virtualet literally walks forward, takes his shot right off the chin, and that’s it man, sayonara good night, see you later um, you know, but now he’s got all this controversy going on in his life uh.
With this whole performance, enhancing drugs yeah right um, you know oscar valdez he’s not the only person, that’s scrutinized by the boxing world after he tested positive for the banned substance.
Phentermine ahead of his victim victory.
Uh back in september uh his trainer mexico’s eddie renoso, was dragged into the controversy and had his reputation called into question by champions like devin, haney and caleb plant and sonny edwards on twitter, um, ronaldo 44 told espn in spanish last week through a translator that the Wave of criticism has caused him to think twice about which fighters he trains uh.
You know and going forward with to even consider having this boxer sign wavers, stating that i am not their nutritionist.
I don’t give medical advice.
I am the trainer, i teach technique, and that is it.
You know it’s it sucks it sucks that a fighter will get tested for something like this and uh.
You know his trainer gets pulled in to uh.
In into this controversy.
You know, trainers aren’t the ones popping them drugs in those bodies.
You know they’re not forcing them to take the pills or not force them to do all that.
That kind of bulk crap that we’re talking about but uh, it’s gon na, be it’s.
You know for this guy to be on top of the world right now.
The way he is um you know he has to this.
This performance-enhancing drug scene can only hurt his career really um.
It’S gon na be hard to bounce back from something like this.
I think you know: uh he’s got a lot of controversy with this robinson fight uh back in september because of the pds and testing uh.
You know positive for it, so it’s it’s unfortunate that we have this guy who’s.
Unbeaten who’s now got this this.
This blemish against his record, and now it’s: how long has he been using these? How long has he, you know been doping or something like that now? Does this belt get stripped um, you know like stuff like that, comes into consideration.
It’S sad because you know this kid.
He is a great boxer out of mexico.
He definitely definitely has the skills to be a champion because he is a champion.
You know he’s got that knockout power.
You know he’s 30.
You know with 23 kos the kids got the skill man.
It’S just unfortunate that something like this has happened.
Um you know oscar raphael, valdez fiero jr.
You know he had a high.
You know he had a great amateur record as well uh.
He won the gold uh in the caribbean games.
He’S won gold in the uh aiba youth world boxing championships.
He won silver at the pan am games uh.
He won bronze at the world amateur championships and now you know, we’ve got this little bit of a little bit of hiccup and we’re gon na have to see how he bounces back from this um tobes sharp, says so eddie renoso didn’t know.
Canelo alvarez was eating contaminated meat after the mexican football team scandal.
All stable are probably choosing i forgot about that.
I forgot about that.
How canelo complained that he ate bad meat uh.
You know what that’s hilarious uh also.
He says what oscar valdez should be stripped of his title for a pop and dirty yeah.
You know what this is the thing and no no he’s been caught, and now this this entire, this entire you know last year, 2021 is coming into you know.
Coming coming up in front of the microscope, now they’re going to pick apart this now that beautiful knockout is that beautiful knockout, because he was you know doping – is that the only reason why he dropped virtualet the way he did is that the only reason that this Man’S wearing the belt today we don’t know now it’s it’s sad.
It’S sad that this has happened.
It’S sad that this guy, who showed a lot of promise, a lot of skill who’s, you know, got a young.
You know young career he’s only 30 years old man.
The guy is just entering into his prime uh, you know, and in that super feather division.
You know he’s now ranked number one out of 1315 in the world, there’s a lot of guys behind him that want that belt, and now it’s it’s all up to uh.
You know, i guess i guess the uh, the commission who’s overseeing all of this to make the decisions now.
Does the wbc make a decision? Do they get involved now and say: okay? Well, none of your belts up for grabs.
This is this is unfortunate.
It’S sad! It happens in the boxing game.
It sucks that it’s happening to oscar valdez, but in the meantime it makes me think about the virgilette knockout and if that was truly his power, even though it’s still a brilliant knockout man, it’s still a brilliant knockout guys.
It’S up here, i’m pretty sure it’s in the comments already.
You can check that knockout out.
You know and uh drop us some comments and let us know what you think and uh yeah man happy hump day, guys, sorry that i brought such a downer today, but um it’ll help you get through a little bit.
Man um! Let me see virtually never been dropped before true, true beat vargas twice to gain the wbc strap.
I can’t stand cheats.
Neither can i man and that’s why we’re talking about this today, because it’s you know it’s a big thing.
These guys train their asses off.
I don’t understand why you need performance, enhancing drugs, man just train more, you know.
What do you mean like that’s what it is.
You must have researched this before we came on today.
Is he being? Is he being investigated right now? Yeah he’s he’s he’s under the he’s under the microscope right now so he’s under the microscope.
He could lose his belt.
He could lose his belt he’s under scrutiny.
He’S under scrutiny uh.
You know he does the whole thing.
I feel disappointed that i’m being crit, you know like uh, renault renault, is feeling bad.
That he’s been criticized, which i you know it’s it’s not up to him to say.
You know here, take this and take this, but listen man you’re on the team.
You got ta know man, you got ta know as his trainer, whether or not your man is doping, because you’ve seen his his best you’ve seen him at his best of his ability.
You’Re telling me that those gains that he’s been trying to make through the entire time that you’ve been with him in his trainer that all of a sudden he could make you know it’s it’s it’s kind of hard man, it’s kind of hard to know.
If anyone knows in on it or not, if he is, then you got to check his whole, stable man and he’s got a stable full of fighters.
So there’s a there’s a lot.
There’S a lot! That’S going to come up in in the media.
I guess with this or they’ll just you know, sweep it under the mat and keep it quiet, which you know boxing can do because of all the damn politics, and it’s just it sucks man.
It sucks that something like this and you know uh burt gillette, who had never been dropped and – and you know like a true champion uh, you know that he lost his belt and and now this belt could have been taken due to a ped.
And now all this isn’t scrutiny: crappy, crappy, crappy crappy, it’s uh, you know, cheating and boxing is just not cool man um, you know.
We’Ve we’ve had boxers not be able to continue their careers after fighting guys with performance-enhancing drugs.
You know one of them being uh zab, judah, uh who’s been on our been on our show.
Before who we’ve interviewed and um.
You know his last fight um, you know, uh his opponent tested positive for pd and uh caused him not to be able to be in the ring anymore.
You know so there’s there’s certain things like that.
It’S it’s unfortunate that it’s happened, guys check it out.
Man read into it check out these clips that we got uh.
You know what drop some comments.
Let me know what you think.
What do you think about him having to be stripped? Do you think the wbc should take that belt guys? Let us know what you think: man drop comments and uh.
You know we’ll get back to you and we’ll do our best to answer you as fast as we can uh.
In the meantime, man, thursday, tomorrow tomorrow we got brandon brandon’s coming again, he’s actually coming check.
It out brandon diord, he’s coming in he’s coming he’s coming in the studio.
He’S promised me that he’s gon na make it he’s finishing his training at three, which is early enough here for him to get ready over there.
So yeah he’s coming in the studio tomorrow check out that interview.
This guy’s got a great story: man um honestly.
I want to talk to him big about the politics of boxing because a he was he was.
He was put on the shelf man for a couple years and uh they shelf this guy, and i want to find out um.
You know how he stayed sharp, how he stayed ring, ready and um.
You know how how mentally he was able to beat that, because that’s got to be hard.
You know you turn pro.
You get a couple fights under your belt.
Next thing you know you’re being shelved and then you can’t get a fight.
It’S got to be bad for you.
You know this kid’s got a great story guys, so you don’t want to miss that interview make sure you tune in tomorrow.
4Pm eastern standard time knuckle up with brandon darrod.
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Happy hump day everybody we’re almost there at the weekend.
Almost time to watch fights guys see you tomorrow, yeah man for sure knuckle up.