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EPISODE: Episode 27
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Hello boxing fans around the world welcome once again to talk and fight and another episode featuring christian from the friday night panel and his ongoing exploration of boxing at the tokyo olympics, scheduled for this july.
What do you have for us christian, uh? Well, graham uh over the weekend a couple of things going on here, so we start off with the games themselves and ioc.
President thomas bach has now cancelled the trip to japan due to the co resurging cases of the copen 19 in the country.
The tokyo olympic organizing committee said on just today in a statement.
So bach was set to visit hiroshima next monday, as well as meet the torch relay there and then probably travel onto tokyo from there.
Organizing committee president seiko hashimoto said last week that the trip would be quote tough for bach to make which was interpreted in japan as meeting it was cancelled.
So the trip was made impossible because of the state of emergency in tokyo, as well as other parts of the country, notably osaka, that has been now been extended until the 31st of may.
The state of emergency was supposed to have ended tomorrow, originally before it was extended.
The statement said that box visit would be made as soon as possible since it was safe to do so now.
This postponement, as you guys are going to know, is a bit of an embarrassment to the ioc and local organizers uh, with the olympics.
Opening in just a little over 10 weeks now, organizers in the ioc have repeatedly said that the olympics will not have to be cancelled and that it will be quote safe and secure.
So japan has so far attributed about 11 000 deaths to cope at 19.
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Now that’s better than a lot of countries, but still poor uh by the standards of their neighbors uh variants of the virus are spreading within uh.
Reports from the public health system, as well as the actual hospital system is coming under a lot of pressure.
Public sentiment in japan continues to run against holding the olympics in the middle of the pandemic, with between 60 to 80 percent of japanese people polled saying that they believe that the olympics should be at this point, be either canceled outright or minimally postponed.
An online position.
Calling for the games to be cancelled gained about 300 000 signatures within three days, and although a small protest against the olympics, uh was uh scheduled for tokyo on sunday.
It only ended up drawing about 100 people.
Also on monday, japan’s kyoto news agency reported that uh, the hyogo prefecture will be taking the torch relay off public streets, so this is going to be at least the fifth time now that the torch has been rerouted since the 25th of march, when they first began In northeastern japan so again a bit of an embarrassment for uh for bach uh not being allowed to travel into japan uh.
You know so close to the games after telling everyone just how safe it’s all going to be so, as always guys we’re going to keep an eye on this and uh we’ll, let you know as things hopefully don’t progress.
You know and we’re going to hope that these stories do slow down as we move on, but getting back into boxing a little bit here and uh continue on with the story that we’ve been following here.
The international boxing association aiba, you guys know, has launched and has now launched an independent investigation following the death of rashida swiss out of jordan during a recent aiba youth world championship in poland.
So the governing body uh has said that the independent process will investigate and review the circumstances of his participation in the in the championships his injury, his treatment and protocols followed on that particular occasion.
Aiba has said in a statement that its internal reviews have now been concluded and that the governing body’s protocols were properly followed after an assessment of all the information that is currently available, the wider investigation that is going to be with independent expertise will consider all available Materials, including those of public authorities, according to aiba terms of reference, are expected to be uh announced in the coming in the coming days.
So el suicide died on april 26 at the age of just 19.
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He had been admitted to hospital 11 days prior after collapsing.
During the third round of the under 81 kilogram contest, with anton vinogradov of estonia at the world championships being held in poland, also did undergo uh brain surgery at the hospital uh emergency surgery directly after that fight.
Now the aiba said in a statement released in a statement saying, deaths in boxing are extremely rare, and aiba is determined to ensure that the circumstances of this tragedy are fully and completely clarified, and that any and all lessons are learned in order to maintain total commitment To the well-being of boxers, aida will continue to do everything that it can to support rasheed’s, family friends and teammates.
At this immensely difficult time, the jordan, the jordan olympic committee uh last month, wrote to the country’s boxing federation in order to request information on the procedures implemented at the event where this all took place.
The jordan olympic committee uh sought information from the jordan boxing federation aiba as well as local organizers, so with this new investigation being launched, graham, it kind of sounds to me like this is keep in mind.
This is on the tail end of the story that we covered just on friday, where the jordanian uh youth, uh committee, uh boxing, has been disbanded, so the jordanian amateur boxing association has been disbanded, following the resignation of a bunch of their board of directors, putting um An ad hoc committee, together to administer boxing in jordan, is currently being done by the jordanian olympic committee.
So this almost sounds to me, and these are the same people now who are going to be taking over the investigation initially into rasheed al-sweisset’s death.
So it almost sounds to me like there’s a bit of a lack of faith in this investigation.
Coming on the point of the aipa, because all of a sudden, the people who were handling this investigation all just resigned at the same time and we have a whole new set of people coming in, including people that are pretty high up in the government and the Uh and the royal family, the jordanian royal family, so there’s a lot of pressure.
I think internally, to keep this very quiet and to be able to just kind of sweep this under the carpet.
So the fact that the aiba is launching their own independent investigation outside of their internal reviews and outside of what the jordanian olympic committee is doing.
I think it’s a great thing that we’re going to hopefully get a little bit of transparency that we wouldn’t necessarily have.
Otherwise, seen my thoughts on my two cents on that one into happier news, though into happier news, graham so recently, as you guys know in czech republic, there’s a tournament going on uh the the grand prix, the usthem tournament, which pardon me my check is atrocious.
I happen to have the uh results of that tournament here and the big story for as far as the uh, the podiums, the medals go mongolians uh the mongolians took them a total of eight medals from that tournament, uh now, the outside of that the golds were Pretty evenly distributed here, mongolia, italy, france, poland and spain all brought home a pair of gold medals with jordan, czech republic and netherlands each bringing home one of their own.
So we saw this distributed over a few people, unfortunately absent from the top of the podium uh.
We didn’t we didn’t hear god save the queen at the end at any point in this tournament, as i’m sure carl at last bell already knows, but that being said uh you know karis arkansas and lauren price uh both competed in this tournament and have now returned Uh from that event in the czech republic, with a silver and a blur and a bronze medal respectively, so on her return to competitive action after more than 18 months out, arden stahl won all three of her belts in the featherweight competition.
Now she was withdrawn, though, from the final as a precaution as a health precaution and finished the tournament unbeaten, with a silver medal.
So could she have brother? Could she have topped the tournament? Probably was she given the chance to? It was decided that we’re going to save her talents minimally for paris and then on for tokyo by the sounds of it.
So middleweight, though price i was able to secure a bronze medal after narrowly losing out on a 4-1 split decision to what they’re calling her arch rival at this point in time and world number two much giffonion of holland, and that was in the semi-final bout.
That’S going to be one to watch out for that that uh, the pair of them i’d like to see them, go at it again, and i think we might get that chance uh either in paris, depending on how the draws go and if not in paris.
I think we’re gon na see both of those two very close to the finals in tokyo itself and they’ll be they’ll, be about to watch out for so it was price’s second tournament of the year following her recent outing to hungary’s box guy tournament uh.
That was back in may, as you guys, obviously know where she brought home a silver.
So the pair will now return to great britain boxing training center in sheffield, where they will continue to prepare for the with the rest of the squad for the forthcoming olympic qualifiers.
Theoretically, due to be held in paris from the 4th to 8th of june, assuming all goes to plan, which nothing has so far so we’ll see what happens.
All 12 of the boxers that are due to compete in paris have successfully returned to competition.
I tell 12 of the boxers on great britain’s boxing team.
I should clarify there have returned a competition successfully in 2021, following the enforced layoff period due to the coronavirus outbreak, a group of eight boxers brought home seven medals from box guy tournament in february.
In april.
A team of 11 from great belgrade winner tournament in serbia, and so adding the performances of price in arden stall in the czech republic means that the men and women from the great britain’s boxing squad have so far secured 19 medals at three competitions.
Since returning uh back to action this year, so obviously a very strong start, even though we didn’t see uh didn’t see either a price or arctic stall at the top of the podium at this particular tournament.
You know our friends across the palm upon have been making a pretty concerted effort to uh make their presence felt at these international tournaments in the run-up to the olympics, but again no goals.
This time i have two takeaways on that.
Realistically speaking, practice makes perfect and i’m happy to hear that.
There’S no uh covet mentioned in that last story with respect to the czech republic holy knife tournament.
So i know it wasn’t said why they pulled arting stall out, but it was just as a health precaution, but it was not at no point in time.
Did anyone say that she either had tested for covert or was a close contact for anyone so yeah? If any, so, it may have been just a strained muscle or just some fatigue, and they said you know, we don’t need to push it through at the end of this tournament, because we do have bigger fish to fry coming up very soon, so it may have Just been a matter of just you know, preserving her strength and her abilities for paris and then on to tokyo, no point in pushing her at this point in time.
It’S good to see, i mean quite frankly, those those countries that you listed off uh good to see.
The competition is healthy for our uh british boxers, our friends over there who are supporting uh, not only the boxing contingent, but our show uh by chiming in quite regularly uh about how great their boxers are, and so i’m having to wonder to myself.
Are they saving it for the olympics, just uh dancing around the ring? Well, it depends on really who you’re looking well, it’s hard to say because look what you’re looking at here so the mongolians, for example, um, who brought home eight medals uh.
You know two silver.
Four gold and then a couple of bronzes there, so their team whoever’s going to tokyo has already qualified that asia oceana qualifier took place back in.
Actually it took place in 2020, so we’ve already known who’s going to be competing for them.
So are they saving themselves? No, this is a run-up for them.
They don’t have that.
You know that big tournament coming up where they’ve got paris right.
So at this point in time, this is this is about keeping them in shape uh, but because they’ve already punched, those tickets, they can maybe go a little harder because they can also put in a little bit more recovery time because they don’t have to worry about A big tournament in june, so are they dancing around now they’re not dancing around, but they’re uh.
You know they.
Definitely everybody at these tournaments has an eye to the future at this point in time, because it does you no good to be a contender, especially if you’re ranked and expected to do well in podium at the olympics, for you to go, and you know blow out Your shoulder or something like you know, catch a concussion a month out from the olympics or two months from the olympics.
I should say was this the tournament that big t sun uh was uh scheduled to fight at no? No, no, no uh the t.
That was the last tournament that uh we just saw.
That was that was the one before this uh, where uh ben whittaker was fighting him and brought home britain’s only gold uh from that tournament.
I might add, but no this this one, the only the only people from uh great britain’s boxing squad was uh charizard stall and uh lauren price of wales were the only uh ones.
Fighting at this particular tournament for great britain got it well thanks.
Very much christian appreciate the update, appreciate the news.
Uh good to hear is not all bad um.
Are there any other successful successful tournament with no with no covet outbreaks? Um you’re going to see stuff in europe, you’ll see regional stuff going on uh, but you’re not going to see anything huge coming out over the last little while just because again, we’ve got at least for the europeans just because we’re coming in now.
In a couple of weeks out from the european qualifier we’re halfway through may, and that starts on the fourth of june, so you’re gon na see uh everyone kind of at least for our european friends.
I mean pretty much everyone’s gon na be returning to training camp at this point in time they just about killed me on friday, night.
Okay, i had no idea what these guys were talking about.
I couldn’t get three words in without mike and graham just about wetting themselves laughing, so i don’t have a copy of that, but you’ll have to go back and watch the episode.
If you want to see that one i like uh yeah, it’s it’s pretty well blowing up right now, um yeah! It’S been a long time since i uh in front of the camera lost my noodles like the way i did on that particular show.
It was a lot of fun, but i you know it happens.
Oh god, okay, don’t get me started just the visuals too much all right.
Thanks, very much christian appreciate it and we’ll see you tomorrow, we’ll check in with you tomorrow, if our producer wakes up yeah.
If not, we might still be here until tomorrow, he’s hard to say he’s, probably he’s probably looking for the video right now, uh yeah the uh just so everyone knows that we were talking about the movie kingpin on friday and there’s this there’s a fight scene in That particular movie – sorry, oh, don’t get me wrong before we send graham off the deep end again uh – and i know this isn’t strictly olympics until we get our producer back here.
We’Re kind of stuck here on air did.
Did you watch the alvarez fight? I lost my internet on saturday night.
Unbelievably, unbelievably, i was watching the uh.
I thought they had been doing some work in your neighborhood yeah.
Okay, i was, i was watching the zone.
I was watching um, the two japanese fighters, uh soto and any anyway, so right smack in the middle of that these two guys are going at it.
Boof, the whole house goes boof, and so we lost our internet and uh when it finally came back on it was over.
So i had to go to youtube and find out who won had to watch it for everyone else.
Okay, well to be clear: uh saunders uh had his orbital bone broken, so he didn’t quit.
I mean if a medical professional is telling you it’s inadvisable to go back into the ring and get smashed again uh you know.
Is that quitting or being you know, taking sound advice and saying yeah, i better save my eye, you know i i hope.
Certainly the prudent advice is just you.
Don’T often see that, especially because in the in the ring, these guys are going to have adrenaline going and everything else, they don’t necessarily feel the injury that they’re that they’ve sustained right away.
So it’s kind of hard to take that moment and go okay.
The rational thing to do is to back away from canelo alvarez because he’s wanted this fight for so long, and this you know, obviously this would have been huge for saunders if he had taken alvarez yeah.
I mean i’m a little disappointed in the comments that i’m seeing online saying that saunders quit i mean seriously when someone breaks your orbital bone.
That’S a pretty serious injury and he’s gon na need some recovery time to be blunt uh.
I hope he comes back.
I hope he gets another shot uh, but it looks like caleb plant is next in line for uh canelo alvarez, as far as i can tell.
I know we’re just supposed to be sitting here.
I know alvarez is gon na, be sitting around waiting for uh saunders to get better, though, for a rematch he’s got to keep moving with his career as well correct, correct, correct! What’S up, let’s take a look there.
You go all right, guys we’re going to try at least attempt to sign off your our producers back uh yeah yeah, because we’re getting away from him there.
We go he’s back there, so we’ll leave the rest of the alvarez, fight and everything else to big mike at four and he can uh he can chime in with that uh.
Thanks for sticking with us guys over at last bell uh carl and ray it’s good to uh good, to see you on board here as well, and we will talk again.
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